View Full Version : Would you want a Green Arrow film?
Lone Wolf
05-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Could it be done? Yes. Would people want to see a Robin Hood like hero jumping off rooftops or slinging various type of trick arrows? That's for them to decide. I was watching a fan film which involved the character, it was pretty decent except for a few things that were a bit misleading. With the write director and writer who both understand what he's about, along with why he decided to protect people with a just a bow at hand, I'm positive it can be done right.
With The Flash, possibly Green Lantern, and even Wonder Woman getting their own franchise films, Green Arrow could very well be added onto the slate. Unfortunately enough, the idea of a film has never been proposed and probably won't within the next few years or so.
My question is, would you all like to see an adaption take place from the comics?
cerealkiller182
05-17-2006, 02:33 PM
I dont see why not. The whole idea is kinda cheesy though. It risks being seen as a Robin hood rip-off.
Bruce_Wayne29
05-17-2006, 02:46 PM
I do want to see it. Always loved Green Arrow.
Bullseye
05-17-2006, 02:49 PM
I'd rather see a Green Arrow film than a Hawkeye film.
TheFalcon
05-17-2006, 03:04 PM
I'd really like to see a Green Arrow movie. They could put Black Canary in it too as the love interest.
Maybe Kevin Smith could direct it?
From the GA issues he wrote he seemed to have a good grasp on the character and he obviously knows a lot about the history of the character.
Bullseye
05-17-2006, 03:41 PM
I wouldn't mind Kevin Smith involvement with a Green Arrow film.
It risks being seen as a Robin hood rip-off. Wasn't it in the first place?
Mrh7448
05-17-2006, 05:05 PM
I'd really like to see a Green Arrow movie. They could put Black Canary in it too as the love interest.
Maybe Kevin Smith could direct it?
From the GA issues he wrote he seemed to have a good grasp on the character and he obviously knows a lot about the history of the character.
Kevin Smith said he wouldn't work on comic book movies especially through WB. Green Hornet is probably the closest he's ever going to come to doing one. He was called in to pitch a Superman script and things really didn't work out on that count.
cerealkiller182
05-17-2006, 05:36 PM
Wasn't it in the first place?
Probably, but people were able to move on from it somehow. I dont see the same happening with a movie with the general audience.
Warhammer
05-17-2006, 05:41 PM
Green Arrow is in my top 5 best DC characters.
Lone Wolf
05-17-2006, 06:30 PM
I'd really like to see a Green Arrow movie. They could put Black Canary in it too as the love interest.
You have a point. I could see Canary making an appearence, but it'd probably be toward the end. Way I envision it is Green Arrow mentions her name for some occasion, and then she appears to exchange a few words.
Maybe Kevin Smith could direct it?
From the GA issues he wrote he seemed to have a good grasp on the character and he obviously knows a lot about the history of the character.
His run was one of the best interpretations of the character I've read, and yes he really understood what he was about. The last project he had in development was as mentioned, Green Hornet, which hasn't been updated for months. If he were to be involved, however, I'd rather he pen the script rather then direct the film.
CConn
05-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Hell yes. Ollie's awesome. There's a few aspect of GA that would probably have to be updated, but other than that, it'd be great.
Motown Marvel
05-17-2006, 11:36 PM
they really need to let me write this film. i've been planning it for years.
Lone Wolf
05-17-2006, 11:46 PM
Hell yes. Ollie's awesome. There's a few aspect of GA that would probably have to be updated, but other than that, it'd be great.
He really is a great character, one of the best in DC currently in my opinion. I'd really like the prospect of the idea for a film to be brought up, and taken into the right hands. Just imagining the different angle shots that would be required for every arrow battle he gets himself into, or even the villains he could face off against. Merlyn for one, would be great. He's one of his deadliest enemies, not to mention just as skilled with a bow as Green Arrow is.
they really need to let me write this film. i've been planning it for years.
What have you developed so far?
Motown Marvel
05-18-2006, 02:21 AM
What have you developed so far?
i've just got a general story arc mapped out in my head...like how the origin can work on film, the the main story after that is influenced by a GA story from the comics, but im not gonna share which on yet (im talking to some people and working some angles with the slight possibility of getting this film to actually happen within a few years time).
but, serioiusly, perfect director for the film.....danny boyle.
Manic
05-18-2006, 02:58 AM
1) A Green Arrow movie would kick all kinds of ass!
2) I'd rather general audiences saw GA as an Urban Robin Hood than a Batman rip-off. And there are enough parallels both ways.
3) I'd rather Black Canary didn't appear in a GA movie. I have the perfect idea for a BC movie script.
thedarks0ldier
05-18-2006, 10:56 AM
Ok, who the hell said no and left?
TheFalcon
05-18-2006, 11:59 AM
Kevin Smith said he wouldn't work on comic book movies especially through WB. He was called in to pitch a Superman script and things really didn't work out on that count.
Yeah, but the Superman thing was 10 years ago. To me it seems like WB has improved a lot when it comes to the comicbook movies by trusting the creators and not interfering to much in the projects. Most importantly they've removed Jon Peters who was the cause of the problems Smith had when writing the Superman script.
And didn't Kevin Smith also say that there wouldn't be a Clerks 2?
He might've changed his mind about the superhero thing too.
I would really like to have Smith atleast write the script for GA and I wouldn't mind if he directed it as well. He just seems like a perfect fit for the project.
Motown Marvel
05-18-2006, 02:28 PM
i wouldnt mind kevin writing it...but NOT directing it! i love smithm, but theres no way in hell he can direct an action movie, he'll tell you that himself.
warren_sparta27
05-19-2006, 08:31 AM
last week i was thinking that Kevin Smith should write the script for a Green Arrow film, how wierd.
i'd love to see this thing made in the near future, plus there hasn't been a good Robin Hood film for awhile now, people shouldn't be too confused.
Lone Wolf
05-19-2006, 09:43 AM
last week i was thinking that Kevin Smith should write the script for a Green Arrow film, how wierd.
i'd love to see this thing made in the near future, plus there hasn't been a good Robin Hood film for awhile now, people shouldn't be too confused.
If there's anyone who should write this film, it's him. Read his old Green Arrow run, and you'll see why. Probably sometime around The Flash or Wonder Woman has been fully developed and launched onto screens is when it should happen. Sometime around 2009 - 2010 would be suitable, that way they don't rush the casting process, etc.
Manic
05-20-2006, 12:22 AM
Sometime around 2009 - 2010 would be suitable, that way they don't rush the casting process, etc.
That'll also give Smith some time to finish the script... if he were to start writing it right now.
Lone Wolf
05-20-2006, 01:18 AM
That'll also give Smith some time to finish the script... if he were to start writing it right now.
Exactly. With that time he could revisit his interpretation of the character, along with using some of those elements he used when writing Green Arrow before for the script. I wouldn't want this film to be rushed for whatever reason, if taken seriously with the amount of time he'd have it could be a real blockbuster. Especially if the basis of the character was really understood, and the right director was up for the task.
The Guard
05-20-2006, 01:21 AM
There are clearly homages to Robin Hood in the mythos. I'd like to see a small budget version, if it was done right. That means no supervillains, a very dark plot, Dinah has to play a role, etc. There would have to be some changes, because there are some obvious paralells between Oliver Queen and Bruce Wayne. I mean, how many playboy/superheroes can there be? :)
And it might just be me, but if the "green" can't be explained, I'd want to see it called something else, like THE ARROW, or something...
Manic
05-20-2006, 01:42 AM
There are clearly homages to Robin Hood in the mythos. I'd like to see a small budget version, if it was done right. That means no supervillains, a very dark plot, Dinah has to play a role, etc. There would have to be some changes, because there are some obvious paralells between Oliver Queen and Bruce Wayne. I mean, how many playboy/superheroes can there be? :)
And it might just be me, but if the "green" can't be explained, I'd want to see it called something else, like THE ARROW, or something...
Playing up the Robin Hood aspects? Fine.
Dropping the "Green" from his name? That's just plain stupid. The man wears a green costume. The arrows he shoots are green. He is the Green Arrow! It's his name. You don't just drop half of a superhero's name because you don't want to explain why the man in the green suit holding a green bow is shooting green arrows from his green quiver.
Lone Wolf
05-20-2006, 01:58 AM
There are clearly homages to Robin Hood in the mythos. I'd like to see a small budget version, if it was done right. That means no supervillains, a very dark plot, Dinah has to play a role, etc. There would have to be some changes, because there are some obvious paralells between Oliver Queen and Bruce Wayne. I mean, how many playboy/superheroes can there be? :)
And it might just be me, but if the "green" can't be explained, I'd want to see it called something else, like THE ARROW, or something...
Whatever the case, I don't want people to compare the two if a movie was ever made. They often are compared in certain regions, but that was mostly in the old carnation of the character. Such as, Batman has the Bat-signal, while his was the Arrow-signal. Or the fact that he used to have a car called the Arrow car as opposed to the Bat-mobile. And of course, both being millionaires...
The film should be independent on it's own, that way it's not taken as a rip off or just Robin Hood with a mask and goatee. Perhaps the millionaire part should be removed, though he's partially known for being one. But I wouldn't remove all of it, just make him rich in his own way. Considering he's one of the best archers currently in DC, there may be a need for a few flash back sequences of how he became that way. But again that leads up to a comparison to Batman, considering the same thing was used in Batman Begins to explain how he got to where was today. However, there would be a scene I'd like to see where he's assembling the various types of trick arrows he carries around in his quiver.
There's also a way for the "green" to be explained. It can't be taken away, it's part of what makes him Green Arrow in the first place.
Manic
05-20-2006, 02:29 AM
I think he should remain a millionaire (or is it billionaire, now?), but they should keep it downplayed like it's been as of recent. Oliver is so incredibly rich that he never needs to work, and he has no trouble funding his own crime-fighting arsenal. However, he lives in a regular house in the middle of the city (as opposed to a mansion in the outskirts of town), doesn't have a butler, and even fixes the broken household appliances on his own. He's a rich man who doesn't like to let people know he's rich... until he wants to throw his weight around, that is.
Truth is, people are going to see Green Arrow as Robin Hood with a vandyke. He's an archer who fights corrupt officials, and he wears a feather in his hat. The whole Robin Hood thing is actually what got me into the character.
Motown Marvel
05-20-2006, 03:34 AM
There are clearly homages to Robin Hood in the mythos. I'd like to see a small budget version, if it was done right. That means no supervillains, a very dark plot, Dinah has to play a role, etc. There would have to be some changes, because there are some obvious paralells between Oliver Queen and Bruce Wayne. I mean, how many playboy/superheroes can there be? :)
yeah, exactly. i'm thinking a 30-35 million dollar budget would work well for the film. and the bruce wayne comparisons are defenitely touchy...its not someting you could excape completely if your gonna stay mostly true to the character...but with a decent enough writer it could be handled just fine. some people may be making the comparisons, but if everything else holds up, no ones gonna care and it wont be that big of a deal.
And it might just be me, but if the "green" can't be explained, I'd want to see it called something else, like THE ARROW, or something...
bah, the green can be explained easily!! no problem. and i think it'll look fine onscreen too if you make it that really dark olive green.
Lone Wolf
05-22-2006, 09:46 PM
Who would any of you cast as Green Arrow if ever there were to be a film?
Bullseye
05-22-2006, 09:48 PM
I'm at a loss on the casting choice.
Possibly a younger Carey Elwes to play Green Arrow.
Lone Wolf
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
I'm at a loss on the casting choice.
Possibly a younger Carey Elwes to play Green Arrow.
There are a ton actors who could do justice to the character, it's just a question of who. Elwes played Robin Hood before, so I could see why you chose him. If I had to choose, it'd either be Aaron Eckhart or Kiefer Sutherland. Between the two, they'd both be capable of being the perfect Oliver Queen.
Hawkeye
05-22-2006, 10:28 PM
There are a ton actors who could do justice to the character, it's just a question of who. Elwes played Robin Hood before, so I could see why you chose him. If I had to choose, it'd either be Aaron Eckhart or Kiefer Sutherland. Between the two, they'd both be capable of being the perfect Oliver Queen.
Rockage. :up: :up: Both would kick ass playing ol' Ollie, great choices.
Green Arrow is such a rip off of Hawkeye, though. Even though he's from DC and Hawkeye's from Marvel. :o
Manic
05-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I think we're all forgetting about one major problem this movie will have:
The plot/villain.
Green Arrow is known for "sticking it to The Man." It's why the Robin Hood parallels keep flooding it. However, thanks a certain trend in superhero movies, The Man can't be an organized crime boss, or a corrupt businessman. And good luck bringing in a dangerous villain in who was hired by the real bad guys-- Daredevil killed that for us.
And if we bring in the likes of Merlin, what reason would he have for coming into conflict with Green Arrow?
Manic
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Green Arrow is such a rip off of Hawkeye, though. Even though he's from DC and Hawkeye's from Marvel. :o
That was supposed to be funny, right? Because Green Arrow was created 13 years before Hawkeye.
Spider - Man
05-22-2006, 11:20 PM
There are certain characters I think every comic fan wants to see onscreen before the superhero wave subsides. For Marvel it is all the current ones + Ironman, Cap, Thor, Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, and the Avengers.
For DC, Supes& BAts + WW, Flash, GL, Aquaman, Shazam, Atom, Plastic Man, Teen Titans, GA, and the Justice League.
I thought a cool origin and explanation would be to have him be a Vietnam vet (this may create an age issue) who was special forces and used "quiet" weapons (knives, bow and arrow) to kill. He never believed in the war and this could go towards making him anti-establishment. The green costume could evolve from his jungle green camo. He would be highly trained at stealth and combat. This would not preclude him from being rich.
I could definitely see it working onscreen.
The Guard
05-22-2006, 11:41 PM
Playing up the Robin Hood aspects? Fine.
Absolutely. Green Arrow's story IS a retelling of the Robin Hood legend in a lot of ways. And should be connected to such in the film.
Dropping the "Green" from his name? That's just plain stupid. The man wears a green costume. The arrows he shoots are green. He is the Green Arrow! It's his name. You don't just drop half of a superhero's name because you don't want to explain why the man in the green suit holding a green bow is shooting green arrows from his green quiver.
See, that's the point.I don't neccessarily think he needs to shoot green arrows from a green bow. Unless there's a damn good reason for it (His name is "Green Arrow" is not a good reason by itself). I'm fine with him wearing green (Maybe he literally wants to be like Robin Hood), but his "name" needs to be explained. A simple scene..."We can't call him Robin Hood"..."The Green Arrow?" could work maybe. But a green bow and green arrows I can do without. UNTIL the name caught on and he started using the green bow and arrow, or something. As a signature.
And as far as villains...Oliver Queen fights for the people. I think this would be the perfect chance to go away from the organized crime, and toward a "corrupt government" character. Organized crime and people who are supposed to represent/protect the people hurting them could be tied into that. Cliche? Perhaps, but it's a real issue, in a lot of ways, and could work really well. Or hey, the villain could be a smaller, more personal thing, like someone who covered something horrible up, etc.
As I've said before, if there was an idie director out there with a decent budget, I'd love to write a feature length GREEN ARROW fanfilm.
Manic
05-22-2006, 11:48 PM
I thought a cool origin and explanation would be to have him be a Vietnam vet (this may create an age issue)
*does the math*
We're looking at his mid-50s. At youngest.
I imagine Green Arrow being between 30 and 45. And who needs an origin story? The man got stuck on an island, and learned to use a bow. The end. Unlike most popular DC characters, GA's main appeal falls nowhere near his origin. With everyone else, you pretty much need to make a movie about how their parents died, they grew up on a strange island, their planet exploded, or they collected a ring from a dying alien.
With a Green Arrow movie, I like to think we can just jump right into the story, and get to know Ollie as a character through his current, pressing adventure. Nobody wants to see an origin that'll basically look like "Castaway" with bows & arrows. Trying segueing from that to an urban environment.
And a war vet? Don't think so. This is Oliver Queen we're talking about. The man used to call all police officers "Blue Facists." Can you honestly imagine Ollie blindly following government orders? At all?
The Guard
05-23-2006, 12:10 AM
Yeah. Don't like the Vietnam explanation. Not sure he needs an origin. It would really just be cool if he showed up and you see what drives him during the course of the film.
Though, I could see an older Green Arrow. Sean Bean, anyone?
Lone Wolf
05-23-2006, 12:21 AM
Rockage. :up: :up: Both would kick ass playing ol' Ollie, great choices.
Green Arrow is such a rip off of Hawkeye, though. Even though he's from DC and Hawkeye's from Marvel. :o
Actually, you have it backwards. Green Arrow was created in 1941, while Hawkeye entered the Marvel universe in 1964. So which makes him the "ripoff."
I think we're all forgetting about one major problem this movie will have:
The plot/villain.
Green Arrow is known for "sticking it to The Man." It's why the Robin Hood parallels keep flooding it. However, thanks a certain trend in superhero movies, The Man can't be an organized crime boss, or a corrupt businessman. And good luck bringing in a dangerous villain in who was hired by the real bad guys-- Daredevil killed that for us.
And if we bring in the likes of Merlin, what reason would he have for coming into conflict with Green Arrow?
Merlyn is an assassin, as well as a master archer. He rivals among the same skills with a bow as Green Arrow does, even admitting at one point that he was the better archer. They've been rivals for years, even till this day he's considering his best known foe. If ever there was a film based on Green Arrow, having Merlyn as the villain would be grand. A real bow verses bow epic, I could see it working out very well is done right. Not to mention all the angle shots that would be required, in order for it all to happen.
Or, the villain could simply be something a bit smaller. Like something that ends up catching Green Arrow's attention. But partially the film should focus on who the character is about. Queen would do anything to protect his city, even risking his own life if he had too. Anything to make sure it never loses what makes it so special too him, and that is very important. Just look at today's comics, he's been elected the new mayor.
Though, I could see an older Green Arrow. Sean Bean, anyone?
I could see it.
Motown Marvel
05-23-2006, 01:25 AM
green arrow should be in his mid thirties. i wouldnt complain over sean bean...but sean bean isnt the most attractive man...and ollie is suppose to be a ladies man, so i think he needs to be a bit better looking than sean bean. plus i want sean bean to play rorshach in watchmen. aaron eckhart has good potential, at least in regards to the look, im not too familiar with his work as an actor. but i cant say i have too much of a definitive choice in regards to an actor for the role.
and i agree with GUARD about him having a green bow and arrows not being necessary. green costume, yes. and maybe in the sequel, once ollie feels green arrow is an established figure in star city he'll make his arrows green to go along with the namesake (after all, he DOES make his own arrows). it could also be cool if the bow is mostly brown, but theres some nice design etched into it that is painted green.
Manic
05-23-2006, 02:59 AM
See, that's the point.I don't neccessarily think he needs to shoot green arrows from a green bow. Unless there's a damn good reason for it (His name is "Green Arrow" is not a good reason by itself). I'm fine with him wearing green (Maybe he literally wants to be like Robin Hood), but his "name" needs to be explained. A simple scene..."We can't call him Robin Hood"..."The Green Arrow?" could work maybe. But a green bow and green arrows I can do without. UNTIL the name caught on and he started using the green bow and arrow, or something. As a signature.
Ready for me to blow your mind?
You say his name has to be explained, right? How about they come up with the name Green Arrow because (pay attention, because this is where it gets crazy) of the green arrows he uses?
"Who is this modern-day Robin Hood?"
"I don't know, but he leaves behind green arrows at the scene of every crime he stops."
See? Makes perfect sense.
Katsuro
05-23-2006, 11:06 AM
Ready for me to blow your mind?
You say his name has to be explained, right? How about they come up with the name Green Arrow because (pay attention, because this is where it gets crazy) of the green arrows he uses?
"Who is this modern-day Robin Hood?"
"I don't know, but he leaves behind green arrows at the scene of every crime he stops."
See? Makes perfect sense.
But the problem is... why does he use Green Arrows? Batman is called Batman cuz he dresses like a Bat, but his reason for dressing like a bat is explained. What's Green Arrow's reason for using green arrows, and probably wanting to be called Green Arrow?
Lone Wolf
05-23-2006, 12:22 PM
But the problem is... why does he use Green Arrows? Batman is called Batman cuz he dresses like a Bat, but his reason for dressing like a bat is explained. What's Green Arrow's reason for using green arrows, and probably wanting to be called Green Arrow?
Editorially, it supposedly has to do with an old book and movie serial called "The Green Archer," which the character is partly based on. There is also a traditional medieval folk tale (used sometimes in movies and books) in the vein of Robin Hood, which is called Black Arrow. It involves a Robin Hood-type outlaw who uses black arrows. This may or may not have some influence.
I've never heard if there was a character motivation given in the original stories (though I doubt anyone gave it much thought at the time), but in current continuity, Queen didn't choose the name. When he first debuted, it was on his return from a desert island with a few criminals in town for the police. One of the crooks said something like this, "it some green arrow guy" to the police officers and the media. Having been marooned for several years, his only attire was hastily woven plant matter. Between his floral appearance and his use of a simple selfbow he'd made himself, the press dubbed the mysterious hero "The Green Arrow." It stuck with him.
cryptic name
05-23-2006, 11:39 PM
*does the math*
We're looking at his mid-50s. At youngest.
I imagine Green Arrow being between 30 and 45. And who needs an origin story? The man got stuck on an island, and learned to use a bow. The end. Unlike most popular DC characters, GA's main appeal falls nowhere near his origin. With everyone else, you pretty much need to make a movie about how their parents died, they grew up on a strange island, their planet exploded, or they collected a ring from a dying alien.
With a Green Arrow movie, I like to think we can just jump right into the story, and get to know Ollie as a character through his current, pressing adventure. Nobody wants to see an origin that'll basically look like "Castaway" with bows & arrows. Trying segueing from that to an urban environment.
And a war vet? Don't think so. This is Oliver Queen we're talking about. The man used to call all police officers "Blue Facists." Can you honestly imagine Ollie blindly following government orders? At all?
it should at least be his first adventure/case though, right? i think it might be awkward to jump right into it. certain things need to be explained, like his name, the reason he does what he does, etc.
as for the green arrows/name thing, maybe in the first act he saves a woman from being mugged or raped and improvises with arrows that happen to have green shafts, like from a sporting goods store. the press picks it up "serial rapist killed with GREEN ARROW!" or something (does GA kill?) anyway, after that he would make his own customized green arrows and carry on from there.
Manic
05-24-2006, 04:56 AM
Green Arrow doesn't kill, but he does put plenty of people in the hospital.
That reminds me...
Trick arrows: yes or no?
Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 01:39 PM
Green Arrow doesn't kill, but he does put plenty of people in the hospital.
That reminds me...
Trick arrows: yes or no?
They should be used probably later on in the film. That way it would show how well established he is with the regular ones, first. The tricks arrows that would look well on screen, would be, the bola arrow, flash arrow, explosive arrow, grappling hook arrow, smokescreen arrow, and net arrow.
Manic
05-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Yeah. Basically anything except the boxing glove arrow.
Darthkush
05-24-2006, 08:54 PM
After Batman and Superman, I think GA is the most deserving of his own film. His comic has been one of DC's best for the past 5 years or so and far more consistant than Flash, WW or GL.
Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Yeah. Basically anything except the boxing glove arrow.
Hence why I didn't list it down.
Motown Marvel
05-25-2006, 01:23 AM
dude, the boxing glove arrow could totally work...you just gotta be clever:
GA is chasing down some dude who he wants to question, the dude bolts down an alley, GA not far behind...the dude is trapped, he kicks in a door and bolts inside the dark building to hide....GA soon follows...the building is a local boxing training center...GA finds the perp inside, trying to escape or hide or whatever, GA draws his bow tracking the mans frantic movement, but realizes he needs this guy talking and doesnt need to be shooting arrows through him....so he improvises and grabs a nearby boxing glove, tosses it over the arrow, smirks, and fires the "boxing glove arrow", hitting the frantic perp in the back of the head...he hits the ground hard.
Lone Wolf
05-25-2006, 03:32 PM
dude, the boxing glove arrow could totally work...you just gotta be clever:
GA is chasing down some dude who he wants to question, the dude bolts down an alley, GA not far behind...the dude is trapped, he kicks in a door and bolts inside the dark building to hide....GA soon follows...the building is a local boxing training center...GA finds the perp inside, trying to escape or hide or whatever, GA draws his bow tracking the mans frantic movement, but realizes he needs this guy talking and doesnt need to be shooting arrows through him....so he improvises and grabs a nearby boxing glove, tosses it over the arrow, smirks, and fires the "boxing glove arrow", hitting the frantic perp in the back of the head...he hits the ground hard.
If the boxing glove arrow is actually used, I'd like to see it already be in his quiver rather then him making it while on patrol. Your idea is well thought out though, very Green Arrow-esque.
For instance in JLU, he's shown stopping a local store robbery and pulls out an arrow while the crook is running away. The arrow looks like any ordinary one. But as he's about to fire it, the very tip of it opens like a capsole and out comes the boxing glove already prepared. He fires it, and it knocks him out cold.
Though the way I imagined it was that he'd be interrogating a random perp, who knows what he needs. He manages to quickly escape Green Arrow's grasp and makes a run for it, but what he doesn't realize is that Green Arrow is already following him from the rooftops. Out of nowhere, we see the perp running as fast as he can and there the boxing arrow strikes. It could look well on screen, if done right...
Ben Breeck
05-25-2006, 11:40 PM
First movie is an origin story. He's a West Hollywood Playboy. He gets drunk. He Falls off his Boat. He is forced to survive with a makeshift bow and arrow, discovers marijuana, encounters the guys growing it, knocks them out and sails their boat into harbour.
A few months later, is at the costume ball. It gets robbed. Ollie has just shot the golf ball. Shoots the golf balled arrow at one of the robbers holding his host hostage. Thus Green Arrow is born. And this is just the first 75 minutes of a 150 minute movie. Eventually, he faces the drug lord whose boat he stole.
Second movie is a a mystery on Navajo land a la Tony Hillerman, in which we get to meet the adopted caucasian son a Navajo chief named Roy Harper. This will be in a completely different tone from "Batman and Robin."
Third movie shows increasing friction between Ollie and Roy, especially as Ollie becomes more involved with another vigilante Named Black Canary. Roy Ends up in over his head, and eventually in drug rehab. Ollie ends up bankrupt, and moves to Seattle with Dinah.
Fourth movie is "The Longbow Hunters"
Fifth Movie features Ollie getting thrown out by Black Canary, Meeting Connor, and dying to save a city. And Connor and Roy meeting at the funeral just before the closing credits.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone can do this right.
Manic
05-26-2006, 01:26 AM
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone can do this right.
This coming from the guy who places Green Arrow in West Hollywood instead of Star City... or at the very least, Seattle.
Motown Marvel
05-26-2006, 02:51 AM
First movie is an origin story. He's a West Hollywood Playboy. He gets drunk. He Falls off his Boat. He is forced to survive with a makeshift bow and arrow, discovers marijuana, encounters the guys growing it, knocks them out and sails their boat into harbour.
A few months later, is at the costume ball. It gets robbed. Ollie has just shot the golf ball. Shoots the golf balled arrow at one of the robbers holding his host hostage. Thus Green Arrow is born. And this is just the first 75 minutes of a 150 minute movie. Eventually, he faces the drug lord whose boat he stole.
Second movie is a a mystery on Navajo land a la Tony Hillerman, in which we get to meet the adopted caucasian son a Navajo chief named Roy Harper. This will be in a completely different tone from "Batman and Robin."
Third movie shows increasing friction between Ollie and Roy, especially as Ollie becomes more involved with another vigilante Named Black Canary. Roy Ends up in over his head, and eventually in drug rehab. Ollie ends up bankrupt, and moves to Seattle with Dinah.
Fourth movie is "The Longbow Hunters"
Fifth Movie features Ollie getting thrown out by Black Canary, Meeting Connor, and dying to save a city. And Connor and Roy meeting at the funeral just before the closing credits.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone can do this right.
not if they try it your way, they cant.
Ben Breeck
05-26-2006, 04:40 PM
Star City... or at the very least, Seattle.
Because the Star City of the comics is a rather more generic place than Gotham, and Ollie isn't originally from Seattle.
Manic
05-26-2006, 11:50 PM
Generic has nothing to do with it. One of the focal points of Green Arrow's comic since his resurrection has been his determination to protect Star City. It's his hometown. You don't just deny it because you don't think it's as flashy as West Hollywood. Star City is a small town in the shape of a big city. I want to see a movie where it's GA's goal to protect that city.
Hawkeye
06-10-2006, 03:01 AM
Actually, you have it backwards. Green Arrow was created in 1941, while Hawkeye entered the Marvel universe in 1964. So which makes him the "ripoff."
[quote=Manic]That was supposed to be funny right? Because Gree Arrow was created 13 years before Hawkeye.
:o :o
Alright, Batman and Manic got me on this one. I was wrong, my bad...
BTW, where exactly can I see the Green Arrow fan film? Anyone know?
Manic
06-10-2006, 03:09 AM
BTW, where exactly can I see the Green Arrow fan film? Anyone know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DY3WmURMe8
It's not a very good fanfilm, mind you. Sure, it was shot well (there's a version on iFilm.com where it's easier to make out what's happening in the darker scenes), but it had GA almost randomly killing several people.
Interesting note: it beat the comic to the punch by giving Ollie a sword.
I'd like to see it...especially if WB keeps handling DC films the way they are. I haven't been disappointed by a single one yet.
Hypestyle
06-17-2006, 02:45 PM
since GA easily fits into an updated Robin Hood motif, I can see moviegoers understanding this easier than, say, Ghost Rider mythology.. oh.. don't include Speedy in the first film.. save it (and the drug subplot) for the sequel..
Manic
06-18-2006, 01:09 AM
don't include Speedy in the first film.. save it (and the drug subplot) for the sequel..
Now that would make one hell of a sequel. Nobody's ever made a movie where the sidekick hits rock bottom. Everyone would be cracking jokes at the Green Arrow movies because his sidekick is a Robin knockoff, then BAM! Drug addiction, and the audience is thrown for a loop.
Motown Marvel
06-18-2006, 01:44 PM
roy harper should be in a film, but not speedy. that'd look completely stupid on film.
Longbow_Hunter
06-21-2006, 02:23 PM
A Green Arrow movie would be amazing if it was edgy,dark and if it touched on social and political issues.if it's anything like the longbow hunters series then it will turn out amazing.
Lone Wolf
06-21-2006, 06:04 PM
Who do you all think would be the right person to direct a Green Arrow film?
dnno1
06-21-2006, 07:31 PM
How about Terry Marcel. I thought he did a good job with a film by the name of "Hawk the Slayer" (it's worth renting if you haven't seen it). He also did multiple episodes of "The New Adventures of Robin Hood" and "Fantasy Quest" TV series. That's my suggestion. I just hope that nobody suggests Kevin Cosner.
thedarks0ldier
06-21-2006, 10:17 PM
How about Kevin Cosner?
dpm07
06-22-2006, 07:56 AM
I'd like to see a Green Arrow film. I'd prefer it to be a bit more darker than Singerman though. More along the lines of Batman Begins.
Motown Marvel
06-22-2006, 02:02 PM
Who do you all think would be the right person to direct a Green Arrow film?
hands down, i'd defenitely have to go with danny boyle (trainspotting, 28 days later). he does a fantastic job at capturing that urban street level grit....and i think its really important to make GA a real back alley, rooftop, urban hero.
cryptic name
06-23-2006, 01:14 AM
danny boyle is perfect. he could obviously also handle the speedy/heroin subplot in the sequels
Gogo Bananas
06-24-2006, 09:57 PM
I can see Matthew McConnahay or whatever his name is as Ollie.
I'd prefer to see a GA movie completely hardcore tho - like he goes after child pornographers and serial rapists and stuff.
Longbow Hunter, not Emerald Archer.
halfapple
06-25-2006, 02:47 PM
Enjoyed reading Green Arrow comics/stories.
Yes.
I would enjoy seeing a quality film done right about The Green Arrows myth.
halfapple
06-25-2006, 02:48 PM
I'd like to see a Green Arrow film. I'd prefer it to be a bit more darker than Singerman though. More along the lines of Batman Begins.
/yeah that!
Logan Reynolds
07-03-2006, 06:59 PM
Hell yes! GA ROCKS!!!!
StorminNorman
07-03-2006, 08:23 PM
I have never been a huge comic reader simply because I have never had them readily avaliable to me, however the character of the Green Arrow has always appealed to me and is one I am trying to get more familure with. Personally I would love to see him in his own film, and personally I love many of The Guard's ideas.
Lone Wolf
07-04-2006, 01:31 AM
I have never been a huge comic reader simply because I have never had them readily avaliable to me, however the character of the Green Arrow has always appealed to me and is one I am trying to get more familure with. Personally I would love to see him in his own film, and personally I love many of The Guard's ideas.
Well what would you like to know about him?
Hypestyle
07-05-2006, 02:20 PM
So, should the film get into his origin, or jump straight into the story? I'd vote for the latter.. Also, I'm not a GA scholar, so who are his villains?
Manic
07-05-2006, 04:00 PM
I want the movie to jump right in. They could briefly go over his origins. It's nothing special, really. Ollie got stuck on an island and became a good archer until help arrived, the end.
As for his villains, there's an archer named Merlin. Other than that, Ollie professes in sticking it to The Man.
Motown Marvel
07-06-2006, 02:11 AM
defenitely gotta go over the origin. a general audience isnt gonna buy a billionaire with a robin hood complex jumping around on rooftops fighting crime without a solid origin to back it up.
as for villians: i'd go with deathstroke hired by a corrupt corporate CEO. Drakon would work as well...but he may come off as a bit too agent smith.
Manic
07-06-2006, 02:23 AM
defenitely gotta go over the origin. a general audience isnt gonna buy a billionaire with a robin hood complex jumping around on rooftops fighting crime without a solid origin to back it up.
Why not? General audiences accept a nobleman fighting crime in the woods with Robin Hood.
GL's Light
07-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Yes to a Green Arrow film for me. :up:
Keep the budget in the $ 40 million range, release it in March or April.
Danny Boyle would be a good choice for the director's chair, or it could be a comeback vehicle for Stephen Norrington. LXG was very disappointing, but Norrington deserves another crack, and GA would be a more manageable project than LXG. Zach Snyder would do a great job, too.
I'd have Ollie and Dinah both feature (Dinah wouldn't have her sonic powers, she'd just be a kick-ass martial artist). A big affirmative to GA using trick arrows.
I wouldn't go too grim 'n gritty with the tone. No The Longbow Hunters/Dinah tortured/Ollie kills people kind of stuff. The film should have a good mix of seriousness and whimsy.
dnno1
07-06-2006, 08:14 PM
Yes to a Green Arrow film for me. :up:
Keep the budget in the $ 40 million range, release it in March or April.
Danny Boyle would be a good choice for the director's chair, or it could be a comeback vehicle for Stephen Norrington. LXG was very disappointing, but Norrington deserves another crack, and GA would be a more manageable project than LXG. Zach Snyder would do a great job, too.
I'd have Ollie and Dinah both feature (Dinah wouldn't have her sonic powers, she'd just be a kick-ass martial artist). A big affirmative to GA using trick arrows.
I wouldn't go too grim 'n gritty with the tone. No The Longbow Hunters/Dinah tortured/Ollie kills people kind of stuff. The film should have a good mix of seriousness and whimsy.
I liked "The Longbow Hunters".
GL's Light
07-06-2006, 08:25 PM
I liked "The Longbow Hunters".
I liked it, too. I have the graphic novel, but I don't think it's the best way to go with a GA film. I think most superhero films should be serious and weighty enough to entertain adults, but still accessible to children.
Lone Wolf
07-06-2006, 10:06 PM
So, should the film get into his origin, or jump straight into the story? I'd vote for the latter.. Also, I'm not a GA scholar, so who are his villains?
Green Arrow has plenty of rogues.
Archers:
Merlyn
Blue Bowman
Rainbow Archer
Spider
Meta-Humans:
Brick (Has the ability of turning his body into brick)
Deathstroke (Superhuman; use 3/4 of brain)
Dr. Light III (Sentinent light that can control light; world's authority on light-based technology)
Technology villains:
The Calculator (Keypad on his chest to foresee opponent's actions; beam on his head that brings particles in air together to make constructs)
Clock King (Clock themed weapons and tools)
Count Vertigo (Implant that affects opponents' inner ear to throw them off-balance)
Red Dart (Various trick darts)
None of the above:
Drakon (One of the top 5 martial artists on Earth)
Onomatopeia (Uses guns and acrobatic skills)
The Riddler (Genius that delivers riddles to opponents foreseeing crimes out of a psychotic fixation)
Motown Marvel
07-07-2006, 02:43 AM
Why not? General audiences accept a nobleman fighting crime in the woods with Robin Hood.
medieval nobleman jives well with the idea of chivalry and fighting for your beliefs. that idea works fine with the time period its set in. but in a modern world and setting, why would a billionaire dress up like a character from a medieval folk tale and fight crime with a bow and arrow when he could just as easily and effectively do it in a far less ridiculous, preposterous, and extreme way? all that comes from the origin.
Manic
07-07-2006, 04:24 AM
medieval nobleman jives well with the idea of chivalry and fighting for your beliefs. that idea works fine with the time period its set in. but in a modern world and setting, why would a billionaire dress up like a character from a medieval folk tale and fight crime with a bow and arrow when he could just as easily and effectively do it in a far less ridiculous, preposterous, and extreme way? all that comes from the origin.
What part of his origin explains why he dresses up like Robin Hood? I've never known a reason for him to pick that ridiculous medieval theme; I just suspended my disbelief enough to accept it.
Ollie Queen isn't Bruce Wayne. He doesn't have some tragic, life-changing origin that inspired him to pick a persona that'll strike fear into criminals. He's an idealistic fighter for the little guy. You don't need to see him honing his archery skills to accept that. That's just the way he thinks.
The only thing his origin could explain is why he's so damned good at what he does. And as I said earlier, they can go over that briefly.
Motown Marvel
07-07-2006, 03:18 PM
What part of his origin explains why he dresses up like Robin Hood? I've never known a reason for him to pick that ridiculous medieval theme; I just suspended my disbelief enough to accept it.
Ollie Queen isn't Bruce Wayne. He doesn't have some tragic, life-changing origin that inspired him to pick a persona that'll strike fear into criminals. He's an idealistic fighter for the little guy. You don't need to see him honing his archery skills to accept that. That's just the way he thinks.
The only thing his origin could explain is why he's so damned good at what he does. And as I said earlier, they can go over that briefly.
his origin is totally a life changing moment. before, he was a greedy arrogant corporate CEO who could care less about the failings of society and the struggles of the lower class, because he was above that. then after being shipwrecked on an island, he was left with nothing. for the first time in his life he had nothing and had to rely on himself for survival. when he returns, he's a reborn man with a social conscience (sp?). he now understands the lower class and their struggles to survive, and how rich men like him were always capable of helping them, but instead never gave a damn. and looking at his city through new eyes, he recognizes social problems like crime and poverty....things he was always too arrogant to recognize before because it never affected him. so, with this new set of morals and conscious, he seeks retribution for his past ignorance......and bang a lot of chicks while doing it.
as for the costume, i have a cool idea on how that could be worked in...but i dont want to get into it now. but seriously, i dont know why its suddenly uncool around here to support a characters origin on film. its a NECESSITY. these characters dont just spring out of nowhere. honestly, we're talking 10 minutes of film in a 2 hour movie.
ShadowBoxing
07-07-2006, 09:51 PM
As with any and all characters: there is a story there.
The Question, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Iron Fist, Red Wolf, heck even Son of Satan all have the potential as movie properties. Blade stands as proof of this, that you can take a character even as obscure as him and market it. The question with Green Arrow is how good would the movie be done, and I think in all likelyhood the story would be either another "catwoman" or could be treated well as a more Indie type film (something allong the lines of Collateral or Momento in tone). However chances are it would go the way of a catwoman and be destroyed in the process.
Manic
07-08-2006, 12:06 AM
Just a note: the Blade movie gave the character powers he never had in the comics. I believe his only power in the comics was that vampires don't like the taste of his blood.
Speedball
07-08-2006, 12:36 AM
As with any and all characters: there is a story there.
The Question, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Iron Fist, Red Wolf, heck even Son of Satan all have the potential as movie properties. Blade stands as proof of this, that you can take a character even as obscure as him and market it. The question with Green Arrow is how good would the movie be done, and I think in all likelyhood the story would be either another "catwoman" or could be treated well as a more Indie type film (something allong the lines of Collateral or Momento in tone). However chances are it would go the way of a catwoman and be destroyed in the process.
Holy Crap!
I can see a Blue Beetle film work, and in the end of the Third or Second film, Max Lord kills him!!!
Drakon
07-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Green Arrow has plenty of rogues.
None of the above:
Drakon (One of the top 5 martial artists on Earth)
Onomatopeia (Uses guns and acrobatic skills)
The Riddler (Genius that delivers riddles to opponents foreseeing crimes out of a psychotic fixation)
Wow, learn something new each day.
StorminNorman
07-15-2006, 03:13 AM
If they ever were to make the Green Arrow into a film how would people think about Ewan McGregor playing Ollie?
SpiderHulkThing
07-16-2006, 02:45 AM
sure, why not.
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