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Kool-Aid
05-17-2006, 06:27 PM
Did anybody notice this guy as being one of the Supermen in the spread page where they showed them all together?


http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8044/ugly99mj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


They just showed his head.

I died when I saw it. Sooo funny.
Spider-Gamer
05-17-2006, 07:04 PM
Are you serious? Can anybody post a picture or something? :confused:
Spike_x1
05-17-2006, 07:13 PM
:rolleyes:
TheCorpulent1
05-17-2006, 08:20 PM
Yeah, he was in there. After reading that issue I feel pretty ripped off. The whole Superman/Batman series, outside of the first arc, has been nothing but a colossal waste of time and money. :o
Ben Urich
05-17-2006, 08:32 PM
Yeah, he was in there. After reading that issue I feel pretty ripped off. The whole Superman/Batman series, outside of the first arc, has been nothing but a colossal waste of time and money. :o

Especially that standalone with huge Supes/Bats robot and the new Toyman. :(
TheCorpulent1
05-17-2006, 08:39 PM
Yeah. I should've trusted my bleeding, protesting eyes as soon as they passed over that god-awful Pat Lee art and left that issue on the stands.
Spike_x1
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
I gave up B/S a while ago. I just got tired of seeing some of my favorite villains pussified, replaced, or killed.

First Metallo gives up his robot body (very out of character for him to even consider doing that), the Toyman is replaced by a little kid who assumes the title without Winslow Schott doing anything about it, and then the Atomic Skull dies FROM A GUNSHOT!

I'd be less pissed off about that last one if they explained that the gun or the bullet was special, but it's the fact that nobody even questioned as to how Joe Martin was killed so easily by the force of a bullet when he's shrugged off punches from Superman before.

I'll pick it back up when issue 28 comes out.
Kool-Aid
05-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Yeah, he was in there. After reading that issue I feel pretty ripped off. The whole Superman/Batman series, outside of the first arc, has been nothing but a colossal waste of time and money. :o


Yeah, it sucked.
Mogwai
05-17-2006, 10:40 PM
I'm glad this arc is finally over...it was so off the wall..
I_am_budders
05-17-2006, 10:41 PM
For the love of god, someone please scan this.
Purple Man
05-17-2006, 11:38 PM
Woo, 25 issues later and here we are.

I loved every single issue. Each story was quite interesting in its own unique way.

I was sad to see Metallo lose his robotic body. I'm sure something will be done with him in the future.

What happend to the Atomic Skull was kinda disappointing as well. Though I never liked the character before then, so I guess I don't really mind. And it wasn't just a regular bullet that he was killed by one of Soldiers bullets also went through Supermans hand.

Issue 25 was insane and slightly confusing. Luthor figured out that Clark was Superman but Myx erased it? What is going to happen with Myx and Darkseid. Guess we will have to wait and see what comes of this.

Only two more weeks until 26, it's going to be a tear jerker.
Harlekin
05-18-2006, 02:10 AM
I'll pick it back up when issue 28 comes out.
Now, Spike, I do assume you'll be picking up #26 right? I dropped this title after the first arc, and then picking up 2/3 issues with the first the alternate reality arc and dropping it again.
Spike_x1
05-18-2006, 05:31 AM
I do understand that issue's importance, but unless the writing improves with it, then it stays on the shelf.
Spike_x1
05-18-2006, 05:45 AM
I was sad to see Metallo lose his robotic body. I'm sure something will be done with him in the future.He's popped up OYL, but he had an organic body with a metal frame. Now, never in a thousand years should John Corben be satisfied with just that, or give up his robot body in the first place. He had control over virtually all forms of machinery, didn't need kryptonite to survive, was as strong as Superman, and contrary to what S:TAS would have you believe, he could feel just as much as you or me.

So why would he give all that up instead of choosing to simply repair his body (which was breaking down in Public Enemies)?What happend to the Atomic Skull was kinda disappointing as well. Though I never liked the character before then, so I guess I don't really mind. And it wasn't just a regular bullet that he was killed by one of Soldiers bullets also went through Supermans hand.But it wasn't the first time that he had been defeated by a bullet. The same thing happened in Ending Battle when Pa Kent shot him. However, in that incident, the shotgun merely ruptured his armor and made him explode. That event doesn't make any sense either; the Skull's not a container of energy like Captain Atom, Major Force, or Neutron. The Skull's body is simply radioactive. He originally wore just a simple leather jacket as a costume for God's sake, and he later adopted the armor because he didn't want the radiation that his body emitted to cause harm to anyone.

And I know that Soldier's bullets were special, but it seems like they were made from blue kryptonite. That would explain why it went through Superman's hand, but it wouldn't explain why it killed the Skull.
warren_sparta27
05-18-2006, 06:00 AM
when does martian manhunter appear and attack Batman? i'm interested in that arc.
GyLocke
05-18-2006, 06:42 AM
Look at him go
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5024/1213medium3zi.jpg
Harlekin
05-18-2006, 07:31 AM
Now that pretty much looks really cool.
That-Guy
05-18-2006, 08:41 AM
Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I_am_budders
05-18-2006, 10:13 AM
Sweet, the Batman from Ego is in there.
javi1024
05-18-2006, 12:44 PM
ive enjoyed all the issues (except for #7 drawn by pat lee). and i thought this passed story (while really wierd) was building up to something awesome. but that last issue was really disappointing. i was really looking forward to seeing more of Batwoman, Superwoman, Superlad, and all the Supergirls. and once they brought in all those other supermen/batmen that was too much. it like Loeb ran out of issues to tell his story, so he had to cram the ending into the last issue.
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 02:01 PM
Back to Metallo and Atomic Skull. Metallo didn't want to be captured by the new Toyman. Toyboys father or whatever created the metal Metallo is made out of. I'm sure he will get a similar body back. Maybe just not infected with the B13 technology.

As for Atomic Skull. Maybe the bullet that was shot at him was radioactive and caused a chain reaction that resulted in the BOOM!!

Both villains will come back eventually.

This issue did seem a bit rushed. I was expecting more pages, but it's ok. I still enjoyed seeing all the different characters.

Question though: Who is the metallic Superman and the zebra striped Batman?
Compi716
05-18-2006, 02:30 PM
The Zebra-Stripe Batman is there!

But why did they go with Superman-Red rather than Superman-Blue? Blue was around for longer.
Brian Braddock
05-18-2006, 03:15 PM
Duh! - picked up #25 and did indeed notice him. I didnt even realise it was that dude tho. Now that I do?

ALMAO!!!!!!

Excellent. :up:
Darthphere
05-18-2006, 03:27 PM
The writing was pretty bad, but I understand what he was going through so ill forgive the guy.

*waits for some really ******* remark like, then he shouldve left the book.*
Fledermaus
05-18-2006, 03:36 PM
Is Superman/Batman ever going to be marked One Year Later? I'm pretty sure "With a Vengeance" was supposed to be over before Infinite Crisis started. Anybody have any ideas what exactly the timeline here is?
Funniest Line:
Joker: "Why doesn't anybody remember when I had your magic? When "I" - -the great me - - was emperor of everything?!"
Mxyzptlk: "They don't remember because I don't want them to remember. That... and they haven't collected those stories into a trade paperback yet...

and not to be an *******, but you would think, after losing his son, Loeb would have took a few months off.
Assassin
05-18-2006, 03:39 PM
the only arc i really hated was the one before this one.
Darthphere
05-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Is Superman/Batman ever going to be marked One Year Later? I'm pretty sure "With a Vengeance" was supposed to be over before Infinite Crisis started. Anybody have any ideas what exactly the timeline here is?
Funniest Line:
Joker: "Why doesn't anybody remember when I had your magic? When "I" - -the great me - - was emperor of everything?!"
Mxyzptlk: "They don't remember because I don't want them to remember. That... and they haven't collected those stories into a trade paperback yet...

and not to be an *******, but you would think, after losing his son, Loeb would have took a few months off.


Chances are he was writing when his son was still sick and the past arc was written before his son died.
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 03:55 PM
I got the idea from "With A Vengeance" that Myx is supposed to represent the DC Editors or something similar. Mentioning Emperor Joker hasn't been collected in a trade, and that he doesn't want people to remember the story.

Also, I think when they showed a flash back of Lex from the last panel of issue 6, I think him knowing that Clark is Superman might have been Jephs original idea, but then came DCs editors saying that'd be a bad idea and making him change the line to the crisis foreshadowing.

Anyone else agree?
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 03:59 PM
Also, Jeph did take some time off. Which is why Supergirl and Superman/Batman had a messed up shipping schedule.

I applaud him for finishing up as fast as he did. I also commend him for taking on other high profile projects like the Ultimates and not just wallowing in pity.

In a universe with dark knights and men of steel, Jeph Loeb is a true hero.
Assassin
05-18-2006, 04:09 PM
i agree with both comments
joke
05-18-2006, 04:13 PM
Just look at the "Hot List This Week" on the back. It has "Sgt. Rock - Prophecy #1", which was out 5 months ago. The book is horribly behind schedule and just horrible, too. Every plot has been nonsense. There's nothing good about it. Should just be cancelled.

Atleast Loeb is moving to Marvel now. Oh dear god, he's doing Ultimates 3! Crap.
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 04:32 PM
You live up to your name joke.

Funniest thing I've read in a long time.

Unless of course you are talking in Bizarro speak.

"Me hate Batman/Superman. Worst book comic never. Me no make nonsense of plot. Nothing is terrible. Me hate book so much me never read again. Loeb not doing Ultimates 3. Me am so disappointed. Me not wait impatiently for first issue."

Talk like that and you won't look like such an idiot for reading a book you hate so much.
Spike_x1
05-18-2006, 08:05 PM
Back to Metallo and Atomic Skull. Metallo didn't want to be captured by the new Toyman. Toyboys father or whatever created the metal Metallo is made out of. I'm sure he will get a similar body back. Maybe just not infected with the B13 technology.But Corben did want his human body back. That's why he was digging it up in the very first issue. The fact that he was abducted doesn't change the fact that he wanted to be human again (God knows why).As for Atomic Skull. Maybe the bullet that was shot at him was radioactive and caused a chain reaction that resulted in the BOOM!!That's kind of stretching for an explanation, isn't it?
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 10:38 PM
Maybe he became more like the Metallo in the Superman animated series, where he was bitter when he realized that he couldn't physically feel anything anymore.

I don't find it a bad thing that he wanted to be human again. Being super powerful with a kryptonite heart may be fun for a while, but eventually you might get sick of being a machine that is only good for getting your butt kicked by Superman.

And I don't see a problem with someone called the Atomic Skull exploding after getting shot in the head. Maybe being alive was the only thing keeping his energy at bay. So once he dies he lets loose his atomic energy. Like a persons bowels when they die.
TheCorpulent1
05-18-2006, 10:44 PM
If it doesn't fit with prior portrayals of the character with no explanation, I'd say that's pretty bad.
Purple Man
05-18-2006, 10:52 PM
So characters can't have a change of heart?

They can't say "I'm sick of the way my life is going. I want to change it." ?

I think it's a more accurate potrayal than a villain who keeps coming back to get his ass kicked.
TheCorpulent1
05-18-2006, 10:59 PM
Of course they can. You missed the "with no explanation" part. A change so drastic that the fundamental personality of the character is different kind of deserves an explanation rather than just a random, unexplained new appearance where the character's totally different.
Lackey
05-19-2006, 03:07 AM
****ing Bat-Mite, man! Bat-mother****ing-Mite! hell yeah :D:D:up:
kiuju2k
05-19-2006, 04:27 AM
Joker: "Why doesn't anybody remember when I had your magic? When "I" - -the great me - - was emperor of everything?!"
Mxyzptlk: "They don't remember because I don't want them to remember. That... and they haven't collected those stories into a trade paperback yet...


yeah i read that mxy quote too...


THEY'RE BREAKING THE 4TH WALL!!!! AAAAHHHHHHHH!!! Its over its alll over!!!!!!!!!!
MaskedManJRK
05-19-2006, 09:10 AM
yeah i read that mxy quote too...


THEY'RE BREAKING THE 4TH WALL!!!! AAAAHHHHHHHH!!! Its over its alll over!!!!!!!!!!

Uh...Mxy's been doing that for a while now. :o
MaskedManJRK
05-19-2006, 09:10 AM
****ing Bat-Mite, man! Bat-mother****ing-Mite! hell yeah :D:D:up:

How does Bat-Mite enter the picture? Do tell me, please. :)
TheCorpulent1
05-19-2006, 10:49 AM
He hops out of the Joker's mouth.
Lackey
05-19-2006, 11:45 AM
How does Bat-Mite enter the picture? Do tell me, please. :)


Years ago the Joker tricked Mxyzptlk into giving him his power. The Joker with the power of Mxyzptlk wreaked havoc, of course. This is how Bizarro entered post-crisis continuity - the Joker created him. Eventually Superman helps Mxyzptlk get his power back.

What we find out in this story is that a portion of Mxyzptlk's power still resides in the Joker and now Mxyzptlk has come to get it back. So he and the Joker play this cosmic game with Batman and Superman.

When Mxy's residual power finally escapes from the Joker, it is manifested as Bat-Mite.

Leave it to Loeb to find a way of fitting Bat-Mite into post-crisis continuity.
Purple Man
05-19-2006, 12:21 PM
Leave it to Loeb to find a way of fitting Bat-Mite into post-crisis continuity.

Don't forget he also weaseled in Composite Superman, Lightning Lord, Saturn Queen and Cosmic King into post-crisis continuity as well.
Darthphere
05-19-2006, 12:22 PM
Krypto.
Purple Man
05-19-2006, 12:26 PM
Kara Zor-El
Kool-Aid
05-19-2006, 05:33 PM
Hopefully Batzarro isn't dead.
Spike_x1
05-19-2006, 07:13 PM
Maybe he became more like the Metallo in the Superman animated series, where he was bitter when he realized that he couldn't physically feel anything anymore.Now that's where it stops making any sense at all. As I said on the previous page,He had control over virtually all forms of machinery, didn't need kryptonite to survive, was as strong as Superman, and contrary to what S:TAS would have you believe, he could feel just as much as you or me.In the comics, his senses were perfectly intact as a cyborg, unlike in S:TAS.
The Question
05-19-2006, 07:26 PM
Uh...Mxy's been doing that for a while now. :o


Yeah. In Adventures of Superman, he's actually transported to the DC editorial offices and interupted his conversation with Superman to compliment Paul Dini on the episode of Duck Dodgers he wrote.
Kool-Aid
05-19-2006, 07:27 PM
LOL

No way!!! Do you by chance know the issue? I'd like to get it.
The Question
05-19-2006, 07:29 PM
LOL



No way!!! Do you by chance know the issue? I'd like to get it.



It happened all over Rucka's run of Adventure's of Superman. You should really pick up the back issues. Best Superman run in a good long while. Best part was when Mxy charged into the DC offices and found the Superman editor playing with Wonder Girl and Superboy action figures and having them make out.