Joey Q confirms villian(Spoilers)

[Trome29]

Over at www.newsarama.com (http://www.newsarama.com) there's a interview with Joey Q...their weekly interviews in fact that newsarama does every week...anyways there talkin about Venom and his character in the comics...he says..
"It’s interesting that you bring him up because we just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length. With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "

So he basicly confirmed Venom will be in Spidey 3....check out the article and read it for yourselves....

[wolfsfang]

VENOM.

An actual sort of confirmation...Yeah!!!

provided it's not a fake Q&A of course

But still...VENOM!!!!

[Moon_Knight]

He did say in a interview that Avi keeps him updated and he does the same with him.

[Visionary]

Is there a direct LINK, I'm lazy?

[TheCardPlayer]

we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "




Right. Making him a Spider-Man clone is an interesting idea. What the hell was Marvel thinking?

[Trome29]

No it's an actual Q&A...it's Joe's Fridays...number 51, I think...if u click on the link it's the first article on Newsarama...nope the information is very legit....

[Trome29]

Here's the direct link...

http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays51.html

[dr venture]

Nice find Trome.

[wolfsfang]

I am seriously Happy now. You have no idea how Happy

VENOM!!! CONFIRMED!!!

[TheCardPlayer]

I am seriously Happy now. You have no idea how Happy

VENOM!!! CONFIRMED!!!But....we all knew for a year?

[Mr. Vice]

:o Confirmation #186...

[wolfsfang]

But....we all knew for a year?

No we had a very strong suspicion based on a lot of evidence. Okay we knew. I don't care, every time he is confirmed by someone I get happy, all these people can't be lying

[Nebins]

Hey another confirmation, but there will always be the non-believers. Stand strong in your convictions, it's very noble.

[Visionary]

Here's the direct link...

http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JoeFridays51.html
The lazy people of the world thanks you.:)

[Daredevil886]

Hey another confirmation, but there will always be the non-believers. Stand strong in your convictions, it's very noble.

Truth.

[CrypticOne]

Finally, a confirmation of Venom. Do you know how long I waited for this?

[Strgts]

Finally, a confirmation of Venom. Do you know how long I waited for this?

Since Yesterday :confused:

[wolfsfang]

Finally, a confirmation of Venom. Do you know how long I waited for this?

No idea but I've been waiting ever since I heard Sam Raimi would be directing the upcomig Spider-Man movie, I was just upset it was Green Goblin who was confirmed...then Doc Ock and now VENOM!!!

[Spider-Bite]

you were upset that Green Goblin was in the first movie? Venom would have ruined it.

[Daredevil886]

"we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "




Right. Making him a Spider-Man clone is an interesting idea. What the hell was Marvel thinking?

JQ: Definitely a product of his time, I think Venom is a bit over played and over done and needs some rethinking.

Maybe a clone isn't the best way to go about that, but he's right.

[wolfsfang]

you were upset that Green Goblin was in the first movie? Venom would have ruined it.

No I was not upset, but if you read my other posts you would know that I love Venom above ALL other marvel characters, I'm talking a wide margin between Venom and my second fave. So when I heard of a Spidey movie I naturally wanted Venom.

If my love of these characters could be measured in height Spidey (my 2nd fave) would be the height of the Empire State Building...My love of Venom is about five miles past the planet PLUTO

[CrypticOne]

Why the hell does everyone wanna see the Clone Saga???

[wolfsfang]

Why the hell does everyone wanna see the Clone Saga???

The same reason there are a lot of cloning movies. Just as nuclear war and monsters created by such were what frightened people in the 50's/60's and therefor was what a lot of their movies were based on, so cloning is the new fear/interest that people want to see explored in movie.

Or they just like the story :up:

[Daredevil886]

The same reason there are a lot of cloning movies. Just as nuclear war and monsters created by such were what frightened people in the 50's/60's and therefor was what a lot of their movies were based on, so cloning is the new fear/interest that people want to see explored in movie.

Or they just like the story :up:

Actually, that's a pretty cool way of looking at it.

[wolfsfang]

Actually, that's a pretty cool way of looking at it.

Why thank you. Every so often I say something smart.

Now I need to lie down and rest my brain

[Silverstein]

No!!! This isn't a confirmation it's just ----Even joking, I can't think up a good way to deny this. How many more confirmations are needed?

[faceplant]

No!!! This isn't a confirmation it's just ----Even joking, I can't think up a good way to deny this. How many more confirmations are needed?

approximately 37

[Mister Gone]

Holy Crap! Joe Q is actually working on the movie! That's awesome that they invited that kind of talent in to actually be there working on the movie! Awesome. I loved the clips he showed of Venom in action, and all of the pictures.

I really liked it when Sam Raimi jumpped into the room and said "That's right! Venom is 100% confirmed by reliable sources working at the highest levels of the movie! You all know very well that secret are never kept from the actors to surprise them, um even though none of the actors in the first Aliens movie even got to see the monster until the day of filming, and David Fincher filmed an entirely bogus ending to Se7en to keep even the actors guessing!"

Thank God we finally have concrete proof and not some speculation by a person that isn't even working on the movie, whew, what a load off my mind



P.S. There was a sale on sarcasm at JC Penny's

[wolfsfang]

No!!! This isn't a confirmation it's just ----Even joking, I can't think up a good way to deny this. How many more confirmations are needed?

I don't need anymore, but the more the better I say. I never get tired of Venom being confirmed

[wolfsfang]

Holy Crap! Joe Q is actually working on the movie! That's awesome that they invited that kind of talent in to actually be there working on the movie! Awesome. I loved the clips he showed of Venom in action, and all of the pictures.

I really liked it when Sam Raimi jumpped into the room and said "That's right! Venom is 100% confirmed by reliable sources working at the highest levels of the movie! You all know very well that secret are never kept from the actors to surprise them, um even though none of the actors in the first Aliens movie even got to see the monster until the day of filming, and David Fincher filmed an entirely bogus ending to Se7en to keep even the actors guessing!"

Thank God we finally have concrete proof and not some speculation by a person that isn't even working on the movie, whew, what a load off my mind



P.S. There was a sale on sarcasm at JC Penny's


Stop trying to bring me down. Someone confirmed Venom and I'm deliriously happy. I don't even care if it is true or not.

[Mister Gone]

Imagine how you will feel if you see a picture. Carry a towel :P ewwww

[Arcturus]

Hmmm, interesting enough. Can't wait for some more info.

:up:

[E.Brock]

Holy Crap! Joe Q is actually working on the movie! That's awesome that they invited that kind of talent in to actually be there working on the movie! Awesome. I loved the clips he showed of Venom in action, and all of the pictures.

I really liked it when Sam Raimi jumpped into the room and said "That's right! Venom is 100% confirmed by reliable sources working at the highest levels of the movie! You all know very well that secret are never kept from the actors to surprise them, um even though none of the actors in the first Aliens movie even got to see the monster until the day of filming, and David Fincher filmed an entirely bogus ending to Se7en to keep even the actors guessing!"

Thank God we finally have concrete proof and not some speculation by a person that isn't even working on the movie, whew, what a load off my mind



P.S. There was a sale on sarcasm at JC Penny's






im not even gonna start on you cause if you dont see that as confirmation then all the classes you attend in school must be those corner rooms where the kids recieve special needs...its not raimi's job to personally tell everyone who the villian will be.

[E.Brock]

and the fact that joe q isnt personally working on the movie doesnt mean he doesnt know what the hell is going on with marvel related movies.

[ironmaidenrules]

the cover of the new wizrad magazine confirms venom

[Silverstein]

:venom: venom is in the film, relax.

[jimmylace]

one for the FAQ's powder-man......

[TheCardPlayer]

Holy Crap! Joe Q is actually working on the movie! That's awesome that they invited that kind of talent in to actually be there working on the movie! Awesome. I loved the clips he showed of Venom in action, and all of the pictures.

I really liked it when Sam Raimi jumpped into the room and said "That's right! Venom is 100% confirmed by reliable sources working at the highest levels of the movie! You all know very well that secret are never kept from the actors to surprise them, um even though none of the actors in the first Aliens movie even got to see the monster until the day of filming, and David Fincher filmed an entirely bogus ending to Se7en to keep even the actors guessing!"

Thank God we finally have concrete proof and not some speculation by a person that isn't even working on the movie, whew, what a load off my mind



P.S. There was a sale on sarcasm at JC Penny's
The worse case of denial I have ever seen.

[jimmylace]

venom is in the movie damnit!!! and I kinda agree that venom is ott and very 90's be interesting to see how they handle it in SM3....

[The Kid]

yay

[lordofthenerds]

Nice find. There's been so many confirmations on Venom, I've lost count.

[MaxCarnage]

My hope for this movie just died a little more.

[french joker]

who is that Joey Q ?

[TheCardPlayer]

Marvel's editor in chief.

[Morgoth]

Over at www.newsarama.com (http://www.newsarama.com) there's a interview with Joey Q...their weekly interviews in fact that newsarama does every week...anyways there talkin about Venom and his character in the comics...he says..
"It’s interesting that you bring him up because we just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length. With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "

So he basicly confirmed Venom will be in Spidey 3....check out the article and read it for yourselves....A ton of people have already confirmed this. Every week there's someone else who heard something and then starts a thread that says Venom's confirmed. He has been confirmed for a long time now. By the way did you know Bush was elected President? Get over it.

[drmick]

who is that Joey Q ?

Strangely the "Queseda" name has not been typed in full once in this thread.


Anyways, didn't Stan Lee (hereon refferred to as Stanny L) already confirm Venom somewhere?

[ultimatefan]

Venom has been confirmed a long time ago.

[Symbiotica]

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[Jplaya2023]

Over at www.newsarama.com (http://www.newsarama.com) there's a interview with Joey Q...their weekly interviews in fact that newsarama does every week...anyways there talkin about Venom and his character in the comics...he says..
"It’s interesting that you bring him up because we just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length. With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "

So he basicly confirmed Venom will be in Spidey 3....check out the article and read it for yourselves....

hahaha lol venom

[stryfe]

JQ: Venom was one of those crazy, over the top ideas of the early 90’s. He was the equivalent of big superhero shoulder pads and guns but in the viscous shape of the symbiote.

What it would need to work today?

JQ: Definitely a product of his time, I think Venom is a bit over played and over done and needs some rethinking. It’s interesting that you bring him up because we just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length. With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice.

Funny hes says that because since they stopped portraying a decent Venom marvel has sucked ass. Maybe if they actually explored the character a bit and didnt use him like a circus clown he wouldnt feel this way. Brock was very much a tortured person and seeing him through his everyday actions would have added alot to his character, yet all they gave us was crap like venom vs juggernaut and venom out to kill spiderman. I find Venom more interesting then Spiderman in most cases. Lets see a person down on there luck and give us the story of why he does what he does. F*** you Joe.

BTW Symbiotica nice GW avatar, do you play or just like the pick?

[Symbiotica]

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[James"007"Bond]

Why on Earth is Quesada still in employment?

[Punisher RULES]

Joe Q had some nasty things to say about the overall character of Venom in that interview.

[CConn]

Why on Earth is Quesada still in employment?Because Marvel still sells more comics than DC.

Unfortunately.

[GreenMamba]

While I definitely don't agree with Joe about Venom being a product of his times, he hit the nail on the head when he said he was overplayed.

Had Marvel not overused him and desaturated his character so much in the earlier nineties, I'm sure the bigwigs wouldn't hate him. Pity the bigwigs are blind morons who's policy on stuff they don't like is to ignore it. Idiots.

[The Infernal]

Very true. This "he was a silly character" stuff is just smoke and mirrors to hide the current Marvel regime's intense dislike of both Brock, and anyone who happens to be wearing a symbiote. There have been many excellent stories concerning these individuals - Marvel just doesn't want to go there, because we all know people like the Sentry and "Spider-Woman" are oh so much more compelling. :rolleyes:

That's pretty much their attitude to any character they can't write. They find some excuse like "he's a product of the 90's". They've said that with both Venom and Carnage as if that's an excuse for bad storylines rather than admit that they wrote bad stories for the characters. I also believe that it's this attitude towards them that prevents them from writing better stories with characters that they dislike.

It's true that Venom needs to be re-worked but at the moment quite a lot of characters do. Like most characters he needs to evolve as well and not too mention dealing with the horrible storylines he was last involved in.

[Turd McFurden]

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[Mister Gone]

im not even gonna start on you cause if you dont see that as confirmation then all the classes you attend in school must be those corner rooms where the kids recieve special needs...its not raimi's job to personally tell everyone who the villian will be.

Look, all I'm saying is that confimation is undeniable proof. If you were to take this case to court, all the confirmations would be deemed hearsay and thrown out as evidence. I honestly hope Venom is in the movie, I would really love to see how a great director like Raimi would be able to rewrite an Anti-Hero that Marvel introduced because they couldn't get Wolverine into another book. He may actually make the character beleivable and fun to watch, who knows. As far as confirmation goes, I'll beleive it when I see it, if that makes me a special student, I'll be sitting in that room with Einstein, Da Vinci, and all the other people that never take anything at face value.

[wolfsfang]

What the hell does that mean? Product of the 90's? Spider-Man is a product of the 60's but nobody is complaining about that! The 90's were only 6 years ago, so how can Venom be outdated yet, characters like Superman are still "fresh and new".

It's all a load of B.S cuz it does not matter when the character was created, just that the character is interesting and appeals to people.

[Mister Gone]

What the hell does that mean? Product of the 90's? Spider-Man is a product of the 60's but nobody is complaining about that! The 90's were only 6 years ago so how can Venom be outdated yet character like Superman are still "fresh and new".

It's all a load of B.S cuz it does not matter when the character was created, just that the character is interesting and appeals to people.

Well let's put it this way

60's gave us SpiderMan like the 90's gave us Spawn :P ick

The 60's were an age of creating complex character driven superheros while the 90's was about "extreme" everything. Muscle bound freaks that killed at will and had no real redeeming features. I don't think it's a matter of age, it's just a matter of quality.

[wolfsfang]

Well let's put it this way

60's gave us SpiderMan like the 90's gave us Spawn :P ick

The 60's were an age of creating complex character driven superheros while the 90's was about "extreme" everything. Muscle bound freaks that killed at will and had no real redeeming features. I don't think it's a matter of age, it's just a matter of quality.

Not the best example.

Spawn is my second fave character of all time

Venom
Spawn
Spidey

[Mister Gone]

Not the best example.

Spawn is my second fave character of all time

Venom
Spawn
Spidey

Ich, sorry.
I always though of Spawn and Venom as interchangable, except Spawn had guns.

I'm kind of a beleiver in story first then special effects, while the 90's flipped it around. Granted I like a good fight, but if there is no motivation behind it greater than violence for it's own sake? Not so cool.

[wolfsfang]

Yes but people are still saying they don't like Venom because he was created in the 90's. If they don't like him because they think he is dull and his powers are a rip of of Spidey's then that is fine, but the only reason giving is cuz he was created in the 90's.

Sorry I just don't think the date a character was created should have any bearing on people liking or disliking them.

Oh and I like stories mainly but Spawn just appealed to me...the cool red cape and chains helped a lot.

[GreenMamba]

I'm pretty sure Venom was created in the (late) eighties. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Spawn is the ultimate poster boy for everything that was wrong with the early to mid nineties in comic books. IMO, of course...

[wolfsfang]

He might have been. But he is still referred to as a product of the 90's cus that was when he was more fully created as a character

[stryfe]

The beginning of Spawn was awsome. Its the later work that really sucked. Jim Lees early 90s Xmen set the bar IMO for the rest of comics so to say the 90s were crap is BS. True you cant say the whole 90s were good simply because of one man and one line of comics but every decade has there lulls and highs. 90s were no different. Venom was used by Marvel as a cash cow and when people started to hate the way they were using the character they turned there back on it proclaiming him overdone.

[Infinity9999x]

With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "[/B]



Just like everyone else has been saying, that comment made my blood run cold. I really want to hit Joe Q right now. Maybe I'm overreacting, but I do.

[sag002]

How many "confirmations" have we had exactly. If it's true, we've known about it for a LONG time. If not, we all look like friggin' idiots.

[sag002]

I'm pretty sure Venom was created in the (late) eighties. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Spawn is the ultimate poster boy for everything that was wrong with the early to mid nineties in comic books. IMO, of course...
88/89 i believe. (I own Amazing Spider-Man #300, which was his official debut, and im pretty sure it was 88/89)

[Immortalfire]

I smell bull by-products.

[sag002]

I smell bull by-products.
About what? What are you trying to insinuate?

[TheSlag]

Over at www.newsarama.com (http://www.newsarama.com) there's a interview with Joey Q...their weekly interviews in fact that newsarama does every week...anyways there talkin about Venom and his character in the comics...he says..
"It’s interesting that you bring him up because we just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length. With Venom being one of the stars of the Spidey movie, we have some interesting ideas for him that may just make people take some notice. "

So he basicly confirmed Venom will be in Spidey 3....check out the article and read it for yourselves....

Who the Fook is Joey Q... and why do we care what the guy making Pasta on the Corner thinks about Venom? "they just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length"????

Unless this meatball works on the film, why does it matter that he discussed Venom in a meeting? Does it count if me and some firends of mine "cussed" errr... discussed :D Sandy???? And talk about "Dis"CUSSIN when we talk about Black Cat Scratchy. :D

[GreenMamba]

Would you like some blindness with your denial?

[stryfe]

The Black cat is a terrible character. If shes in this movie its an automatic thumbs down. I hate that *****.

[TheSlag]

Would you like some blindness with your denial?

I "must" be blind, cause I see NO Denial in my post. The river or denial of "Facts" either.

[TheSlag]

The Black cat is a terrible character. If shes in this movie its an automatic thumbs down. I hate that *****.


A frickin Men. :up:

[Arcturus]

I'm pretty sure Venom was created in the (late) eighties. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Spawn is the ultimate poster boy for everything that was wrong with the early to mid nineties in comic books. IMO, of course...

The symbiote and Venom came from the 1980's, Venom arrived in Amazing Spider-Man #298, March 1988. Late 80's, but 80's none the less. As for the symbiote itself, it appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #252, which was May 1984.

[The Overlord]

Venom always had potenial in my opinion, until Marvel did irreversible damage to him by making him the "lethal protector", before that he was fine, after that he was ruined. Carnage, however, always sucked, he was nothing more than a mindless killer, with no class or style. Venom they could bring to big screen by avoiding all that "lethal protector" crap, Carnage however sucks and should never be brought to the big screen.

[The Overlord]

Yes but people are still saying they don't like Venom because he was created in the 90's. If they don't like him because they think he is dull and his powers are a rip of of Spidey's then that is fine, but the only reason giving is cuz he was created in the 90's.

Sorry I just don't think the date a character was created should have any bearing on people liking or disliking them.

Oh and I like stories mainly but Spawn just appealed to me...the cool red cape and chains helped a lot.

Man you are so 90s, liking style over substsance (Spawn). Spawn was just a Ghost Rider rip off anyway.

[Reikowolf]

oh the early to mid 90's... why did everyone have a mullet back then?
when were they ever cool?

I think the problem with the early mid 90's was the fact that they took the late 80's noir comics too far.

I mean.. Days of Future past??
how did they avoid being sued by James Cameron? lol

Venom would have been a great mastermind character... alas.. it was not to be

[The Overlord]

No idea but I've been waiting ever since I heard Sam Raimi would be directing the upcomig Spider-Man movie, I was just upset it was Green Goblin who was confirmed...then Doc Ock and now VENOM!!!

Green Goblin is Spider-Man's arch nemesis, he had to be the villain first movie. Besides if Venom was the first villain, the movie would have had to cover spider-Man's origin, the Venom symbiote comming to Earth, the Venom symbiote bonding with Spidey, Spidey rejecting it and it bonding with Brock to become the villain. It would have been a five hour movie to cover both spidey's origin and Venom in the first movie.

[Reikowolf]

Spider-Man's history dictates (Stan Lee says this in Mutants & Marvels DVD with Kevin Smith

Doc Ock was meant to be Spider-man's arch enemy. (the whole aunt may needs the medicine and the underwater lab plot)
After Stan and Kirby left, the GG killed Gwen, hence changing what was intended.

Hence SM1 had his arch enemy (gg)
and SM2 had the most iconic enemy (doc Ock)
Venom is now considered "one" of the more popular enemies

as far as I'm conserned.. the order is right.

in fact I wouldn't mind seeing the lizard before Venom

[Dragon]

Who the Fook is Joey Q... and why do we care what the guy making Pasta on the Corner thinks about Venom? "they just got out of a meeting in which we discussed Venom at length"????

Unless this meatball works on the film, why does it matter that he discussed Venom in a meeting? Does it count if me and some firends of mine "cussed" errr... discussed :D Sandy???? And talk about "Dis"CUSSIN when we talk about Black Cat Scratchy. :D

That's Joe Quesada, Editor-in-Chief at Marvel. And while he's pretty much seen by fans as a jerk, he would reasonably be a reliable source, considering that he'd be guiding the promotional stuff Marvel would be creating for the film.

[Reikowolf]

That's Joe Quesada, Editor-in-Chief at Marvel. And while he's pretty much seen by fans as a jerk, he would reasonably be a reliable source, considering that he'd be guiding the promotional stuff Marvel would be creating for the film.


I thought that was Avi Arad?

[Dragon]

I thought that was Avi Arad?

Avi Arad is Executive Producer and runs Marvel's film production division. He has nothing to do with the comic books themselves.

[Reikowolf]

Avi Arad is Executive Producer and runs Marvel's film production division. He has nothing to do with the comic books themselves.

yeah.. but wouldn't he be in charge of promotional stuff for the films?

[Jakomus]

So two actors, that actually work on the movie saying Venom will be in it wasn't good enough? An image of Spider-Man in a black suit from the movie wasn't good enough?

But the word of someone who is only technically connected to the movie.. IS good enough?

:confused:

[Dragon]

yeah.. but wouldn't he be in charge of promotional stuff for the films?

Yes and no. I'm sure he, along with folks from Sony have final say over ads and other promotional things. But Sony's promotional division would be doing the actual work.

But Joe Quesada runs MARVEL COMICS- that is the comic producing end of Marvel. So he'd be dealing with the COMIC BOOK portion of the promotions -such as the comic book adaptation. He'd hire the writer-artist team and make editorial decisions about it (How long it will be, what scenes will cut and so forth).

[Reikowolf]

Yes and no. I'm sure he, along with folks from Sony have final say over ads and other promotional things. But Sony's promotional division would be doing the actual work.

But Joe Quesada runs MARVEL COMICS- that is the comic producing end of Marvel. So he'd be dealing with the COMIC BOOK portion of the promotions -such as the comic book adaptation. He'd hire the writer-artist team and make editorial decisions about it (How long it will be, what scenes will cut and so forth).

:up:

[Dragon]

So two actors, that actually work on the movie saying Venom will be in it wasn't good enough? An image of Spider-Man in a black suit from the movie wasn't good enough?

But the word of someone who is only technically connected to the movie.. IS good enough?

:confused:

Dude, for some folks round these parts even that isn't enough. Even when a poster image of Venom is shown they'll probably still be saying he's not in the movie, it's just a trick.

[LarryLegend]

Dragon, you know its all a trick, The villans are going to be the Spot and the Kangaroo.

[SsM]

the spot.. That would be frickin awesome :D

[TheSlag]

That's Joe Quesada, Editor-in-Chief at Marvel. And while he's pretty much seen by fans as a jerk, he would reasonably be a reliable source, considering that he'd be guiding the promotional stuff Marvel would be creating for the film.


1) with the relationship that exists between Sony and Marvel, I would not be too sure of him being in the "know"

and

2) IF he was in the know and pulled this shiat of spilling the beans, he won't be in the know for long.

But thanks for the info about Joey Q_ball. And after what they allowed to happen in the comics, I don't want him anywhere near the movie version. HELL... even makes Sam look good.

[Tony Stark]

So two actors, that actually work on the movie saying Venom will be in it wasn't good enough? An image of Spider-Man in a black suit from the movie wasn't good enough?

But the word of someone who is only technically connected to the movie.. IS good enough?

:confused:

That was my thought as well.

But hell, they put on the frickin press release "SPIDER-MAN WEARS A BLACK COSTUME IN SPIDER-MAN 3", and still people around here said "It's not black, it's just due to the lighting."

[Kevin Roegele]

But....we all knew for a year?

We all knew, since 2001, the following...

- Goblin in the first film
- Doc Ock in the second
- Venom in the third
- Harry would become the Goblin

I mean, it is obvious.

[Reikowolf]

We all knew, since 2001, the following...

- Goblin in the first film
- Doc Ock in the second
- Venom in the third
- Harry would become the Goblin

I mean, it is obvious.


haha
what about Sandman?