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FlameHead
08-12-2005, 02:11 PM
Source; http://store.yahoo.com/wizarduniverse/jun058249.html
Just found this information on Wizard's website. Looks like they're releasing a varient cover for the new series coming in September (see this thread; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158429). There are only 20 available (which I'm sure have been pre ordered by now) at the cost of a whopping $44.99. Wow.
Here's the cover.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_1858_136876362
I suggest buying two copies or the other #1. Print the above pic off and stick it too the front of one of the comics. I mean, 45 bucks is crazy isn't it? I don't even think the pic looks that good...
What bothers me is not the price, but the production number. Only 20 copies? That is a bit too exclusive.
This was a factor in why I stopped collecting comics back in '96. Too many damned variant covers.
FlameHead
08-16-2005, 07:38 AM
I agree. Only 20 people are going to be able to have this... and most of them probably wont even be fans of the characters, just people out to have the value of it. In a way, it's a pretty neat thing to have such a rare item available though. I still wouldn't pay that much for it though.
The price really wouldn't bother me if I have the money available. I already spent 44 dollars on a compact disc because only 350 were pressed in special packaging.
FlameHead
08-18-2005, 09:38 PM
A 3rd Variant cover has been announced...
http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/images/GRv401variant2.jpg
Now this one is freakin' awesome. I would love to get my hands on that one... but sadly, probably never will.
To find out how to get it, check this out; http://www.vengeanceunbound.com/main.html
Uncanny Orb
08-19-2005, 04:44 AM
That would make an awesome poster, I hope somebody at marvel realizes it.
FlameHead
08-19-2005, 06:51 AM
If you got the money to spend, more power to ya.
What bothers me the most is how the cover looks. I really don't like it.
FlameHead
08-19-2005, 07:02 AM
Me too! Maybe this is the poster that they're releasing with the comic, as I read in another thread they are doing. I mean, I'm going to get whatever one it is but if it's that... I'd be one happy boy. I mean man.
Goddamn that is just... wow. I'll buy two of it in any format.
InVictus
08-20-2005, 03:00 AM
I liked the 2ond one more, with the lightning and GR flying...
FlameHead
08-21-2005, 07:52 AM
Really? Interesting. I personally am not a fan of that one at all. Just don't like the artwork.
Riding Ghost
08-21-2005, 10:18 AM
Me too! Maybe this is the poster that they're releasing with the comic, as I read in another thread they are doing.
Yeah I like this cover a lot too but the comic shop guy showed me the poster, he had one that they sent him to put in his window (he wouldn't sell it to me :mad: ). The one he had, I believe, is the cover of the regular edition #1, it had folds in it because they folded it for mailing, he said the ones for sale would not have folds, that his was just for display.
InVictus
08-21-2005, 03:40 PM
Actually the real cover is this one:
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/ghostrider/ghostribic.jpg
Much, much better after the Crane digital cure uh?:D
I really dig the skull, the legs/clothes position, very natural, and the intriguing touch of the landscape on the left. It makes the jump and bike position way more supernatural..
Also this picture is the one that truly maked me like the "normal" bike style.
My favwas the Ketch GR one, but seeing this one...simple, burnt black, with realistic yet spooky take on the tires, gives me the true acrobatic nature of GR driving style. With that kind of bike, i can easily picture GR doing the impossible.
I think Crane choosed this simple look to reflect GR skeletrical nature...
The touch-ups definately give the image new life. The camera angle is a great one. Makes you feel as if Ghost Rider has leaped over your head.
FlameHead
08-26-2005, 09:21 AM
Too bad the poster isn't this cover but, either way, I'm gonna get whatever it is. Maybe they'll release several as the time passes.
I too would not have gotten the folded one... unless it was the only one in existance.
FlameHead
08-26-2005, 09:27 AM
Yeah, that bigger, finished picture does indeed look much better... and there is definatly something to be said for actually drawn/painted artwork... not to take anything away from Crane who is doing great work in my opinion.
Damn, I want them all!!!
Uncanny Orb
09-07-2005, 03:49 PM
The artwork is awesome and I love the way Ennis writes, although my copy has a few flaws on some of the pages, so do all the ones at my store, anyone else get that?
The Jester
09-07-2005, 03:51 PM
It Came Out Today??????????????????
Uncanny Orb
09-07-2005, 04:18 PM
You bet!
BIGGUN
09-07-2005, 06:33 PM
You bet!
damn...im gonna have to hit the comic store early this week :D
FlameHead
09-07-2005, 06:37 PM
Me too. I was waiting for Friday... though I still may have to.
Uncanny Orb
09-07-2005, 06:53 PM
Geez I waited at the store for a half hour for it to show up!:D
FlameHead
09-07-2005, 06:55 PM
It's probably not at my store yet anyway. I'm pretty sure this place doesn't get new shipments until Fridays. Being in Newfoundland sucks.
I plan on buying my 3 issues tomorrow.
Cubs Fan
09-08-2005, 01:41 PM
I liked it. Cant wait for the story to really pick up.
I dont understand why Malachi needs GR, or maybe that hasnt been revealed yet. I liked the look of Hoss, cant wait to see him and GR fight. The only problem I had(which wont be a problem for most people) is the way the Angels were kind of "evil". Evil may not be the right word, I was hoping for "good" Angels.
theescapeclause
09-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Did anyone have any luck finding any of the variant? I called EVERY comic store in Cincinnati, and no one had it. The comic was awesome, a little bit of a slow start, but still awesome. And did anyone notice the insane amount of ads? I've been buying comics for years and I've never seen a book with so many ads. Two pages in the whole book are full page spreads, other than that, there's an ad every other page.
Uncanny Orb
09-08-2005, 05:26 PM
The only problem I had(which wont be a problem for most people) is the way the Angels were kind of "evil". Evil may not be the right word, I was hoping for "good" Angels.
That's Garth Ennis for ya.
Cubs Fan
09-08-2005, 06:52 PM
That's Garth Ennis for ya.
Minor spoiler of a future character.
Yeah I heard that there might be a Catholic Priest somewhere in the story. I really really hope there is no "Catholic Bashing". Hopefully the Priest is a good Priest not one of the other ones.
Now that was a good read. Hate the fact I have to wait a month for the next issue.
Plus I might have found someone who can hook my up with The Dark Design by next Wednesday. This is a good week to be a Ghost Rid fan.
Riding Ghost
09-09-2005, 08:16 AM
The only problem I had(which wont be a problem for most people) is the way the Angels were kind of "evil". Evil may not be the right word, I was hoping for "good" Angels.
I had the same thought, they reminded me more of the old greek gods rather than what we would all identify as being Angels.
But yeah, otherwise it was pretty good.
Riding Ghost
09-09-2005, 08:31 AM
Did anyone have any luck finding any of the variant? I called EVERY comic store in Cincinnati, and no one had it.
that sucks, they probibly have 'em but decided to sell them for $20 on E-bay.
I got one at my comic store for cover price but they only had 1. The 3rd variant is selling for between $250-300 on E-bay, which is about as much as a mint copy of the original GR from the 70's. its crazy
Chris Wallace
09-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Diggin' it fiercely. Just don't get hung up on continuity or you won't enjoy it at all.
FlameHead
09-10-2005, 12:27 AM
Only a few short hours until I can finally get my hands on this thing. Directly after rehearsal I head to my comic shop... and if they don't have it, I'll shoot somebody...
... with a water gun, cuz I'm not a violent man.
demento
09-10-2005, 09:18 AM
Not bad. I'm liking the set-up so far and the art is fantastic. My only complaint is that some of the narration is a tad on the cheesy side but Ennis compensates somewhat by having the demon Hoss shove that biker's head up his ass, literally. Heh. :)
Jasmine
09-10-2005, 02:55 PM
Mini is off to an intriguing start. Gorgeous artwork. :ghost:
KingOfDreams
09-10-2005, 02:57 PM
Normally I don't notice the ads in comics but for some reason they were glaring and distracting in this comic.
knighted
09-11-2005, 09:51 AM
Diggin' it fiercely. Just don't get hung up on continuity or you won't enjoy it at all.
blaze was gr, ketch is dead, blaze is gr again, he finally has to pay for his deal, now they're gonna break him out of hell. theres no continuity problem I see. wtf are you talkin about
I live in new zealand so im getting it at the end of the month is it good
BIGGUN
09-11-2005, 10:30 PM
I live in new zealand so im getting it at the end of the month is it good
id say so :up:
just got it myself and i have to say this one of the better GR stories that ive read. the angels are real a$$e$ and poor Blaze (and Ghost Rider) has been caught and has been suffering in Hell for several years.
the 1st issue just sets up the main characters and not much happens w/ GR but the artwork and story are very good. what was so cool was one statement from one of the angels saying basically even they should be afraid of GR's power! very nice :up:
Gamma Warrior
09-11-2005, 10:39 PM
Ennis is awesome,I love this book.Especialy Ghost Rider fighting the hordes of hell.
Chris Wallace
09-11-2005, 10:39 PM
blaze was gr, ketch is dead, blaze is gr again, he finally has to pay for his deal, now they're gonna break him out of hell. theres no continuity problem I see. wtf are you talkin about1-when did Ketch die?
2-how did Blaze become GR again?
3-which GR is he? :ghost:
Uncanny Orb
09-12-2005, 04:38 AM
I don't know if Ketch is dead or not, I hope so. This is all guessing but I imagine he was reunited with Zarathos when he was taken to hell answering 2-3. But here is a question
Who is controling the body these days? Is it john Blaze that tries to escape every day or Zarathos? Or now that John Blaze is dead can he be turned into a demon himself thus no longer needing Zarathos.
Riding Ghost
09-12-2005, 01:19 PM
Daniel said that "they finally caught up with him........in the end they carried him away." Which leads me to think he (JB) didn't die first, him and GR(presumably Zarathos) were carried to hell alive. Also Daniel stated that the reason Malachi should want to get GR out of hell is because GR is "powerful" and it will be easy to get GR to do his will because JB is "gullible".
On another note, since GR has gone through hell and is all tattered and torn looking, I wonder if somewhere in this mini he gets an upgrade(new cloth and such). Kinda like the upgrade the movie GR is said to have after leaving the jail.
Possably the last issue or two will have a moviesque looking GR ready to be launched into a new ongoing as well as the movie. Just a thought.
theescapeclause
09-12-2005, 05:48 PM
I FINALLY found a copy of the variant! I had to drive about an hour to get it, and they were charging 20 bones, but it was well worth the trip and the dough. I think this new mini is just what GR needs. The tale is pretty easy for anyone to pick up, without having to know all of the mythology that had been built up over the years. Plus the art is nothing short of amazing. (Besides the new logo, not diggin' it.) And on an unrelated note, my trip to this new far away comic store proved very rewarding. In addition to the variant, I found a new GR action figure from one of those figure battle games, AND..... A N/M Marvel Spotlight #5 for $30!!!! Not bad considering some jokers are selling it on ebay for $200 - $400. Now I just need to track down the new poster.
Uncanny Orb
09-13-2005, 04:48 AM
I found A N/M Marvel Spotlight #5 for $30!!!!
Thats awesome!
Hawkin
09-13-2005, 05:59 PM
1-when did Ketch die?
He did die in final issue vol2.
FlameHead
09-14-2005, 08:12 AM
Okay, so I've had the issue since Saturday but I'm not only getting a chance to talk about it. I've read it three times so far and I absolutly love it. Clayton Crane is perfect for this story as his artwork is quite amazing. I love it... and from the little preview of the next comic at the end, it looks like it's only gettin' better. My absolute favorite piece of his work is the mid transformation panel that he created. Probably the best that I've ever seen.
Of course, Ennis deserves a not too because his writting is so wonderful. I love his style and his choice of words. I mean, the opening of this book was brilliant. "And Every night... Every night... They take him down. They rend and rip and they tear and they sever. They pound and mash and rape and ruin until all but his soul is gone". Man. That's freakin' awesome.
And lets not forget the characters he's created. The angels are beautiful and ruthless. Boss Hog is shapin' up to be one crazy ass villian, especially with his new friend "ButtView". Man, that's priceless.
Bring on October so I can't me more of this goodness...
Sauron
09-15-2005, 09:54 AM
Good book, can't wait for more! I felt sorry for ole' flame head gettin' ripped apart every night. :ghost:
Mauser9910
09-18-2005, 07:09 AM
Nice book, only complain I'd have is the coloring is a bit dark sometimes.
I love how this is also reminding of Preacher, I'd love to see Ennis and Dillon working on a GR ongoing serie.
Mr Nick
09-19-2005, 08:27 AM
Loved the look of Ghost Rider. Loved the look of the flames and hell. Can't wait for him to bust out onto Earth. Mw-ha-ha!
Boy, aren't those angels nasty buggers? Not at all like Michael Landon.
:eek:
Shockdingo
09-19-2005, 01:59 PM
I too thought the angels seemed a bit too evil but I loved the art. Hoss seems like he's gonna be a good villain and oh man buttview hahahahahaha!
Chris Wallace
09-19-2005, 11:00 PM
He did die in final issue vol2.
Ok-I stopped reading :ghost: after all that "Noble Kale" nonsense. Last I saw in "Peter Parker: Spider-Man" they'd been separated somehow, they met back up & GR told Dan that the whole NK thing was BS, then they re-united. I'd always figured it was Mackie's way of saying that they'd pi$$ed all over his work, he'd never intended that to be GR's origin & come hell or highwater, he was gonna fix it if nothing else...while ruining Spider-Man. Damn that Mackie.
Anyways, can you give me a rundown of Ketch's final days? :ghost:
Arach Knight
09-20-2005, 05:38 AM
The reason why Malachi wants Ghost Rider's help, is because not only is he powerful, but he is not connected to Heaven or Hell. Daniel and Malachi are heavenly angels. If you notice, they gave that woman a miscarriage, to distract her from seeing them. Where as Hoss and the other angel, were much more violent (including blinding a child with color pencils). As the story goes, a demon escapes hell and is running loose on earth. Some how, it is Malachi's fault. If Heaven finds out first, he is in trouble. If Hell gets the demon back first, Heaven will know about it, and Malachi will be in trouble. If Ghost Rider takes this demon out, neither side will get a chance to know. So that is where Ghost Rider comes into all of this. As for Ghost Rider's outfit, it is only torn upon his escape. When morning comes, he is reformed, and the chase begins again. The only thing I wonder, is why he just tries to outride them, rather than fight back. But it is Hell, and his punishment for selling his soul. So perhaps he could not escape even with his might, in mind.
Uncanny Orb
09-21-2005, 05:12 AM
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0509/20/marvelfirsts.htm
...with art and cover by Clayong Crain.
Huh?
Rukus
09-22-2005, 02:38 AM
Liked the issue a lot the art was great can't wait to see more of GR in the next issues. Knowing Ennis writing this is going to turn into one hell of a battle.
Uncanny Orb
09-22-2005, 05:06 AM
He's now chinese :D
I just made the 2 and a half hour journey to the comic store and back...
$60 later, I got 2 issues of Ghost Rider #1.. and some other ones as well.
:D
Geez, dude! I love Ennis, and really am looking forward to this, but I'm gonna do my usual of waiting till the trade comes out with all the issues compiled and then have Amazon deliver it to my door for cheaper than cover price.
Arach Knight
09-24-2005, 01:04 PM
Graphics are usually near or equal the price of the covers. However, a graphic can't be resold in your old age. At least not for any substantial amount. Even valuable graphic novels only resell for $5-10. Compared to a direct market issue, which could go up tons. I bought the Michael Turner cover of Supergirl #1 for $3. One week later, it went up to $5. Anybody who bought the Spidey variant cover for New Avengers #2, can now look foward to an $80 selling price. I picked up Ghost Rider as an individual. Even though it is the standard cover, I expect it to pick up some kind of price, because of the fact that this is a limited series. I don't always collect comics. But some books I collect, and some I simply read. This book seems worthy of collection.
Well, let's be honest. MODERN comics are really negligible as an investment. First, you have the initial investment, as well as caring for it, and finally, years later, you have to find someone that is willing to buy. Plus, a lot of times you gain an attachement to a book and end up not selling anyway. So eventually they just end up becoming something that clutters your life. Unless you have something from the golden or silver age, you really are going to have a hard time getting squat for it. So collecting modern stuff as an investment is really a bunch of hooey. There are a couple of exceptions, but realistically, nothing you buy today is going to end up selling at the price of Amazing Fantasy #15 no matter how old it is...EVER. I still have all of my comics from the 80's in perfect condition, but I know I would have a hard time getting anything for them. If you simply want an investment, put your money into a Money Market account or CD. So that argument can go out the window.
Now on the other hand if you are collecting because you simply enjoy it, that's another story. You are buying pleasure, and that is a subjective thing. Now, that is a valid reason. That's why, unless it's a one shot, I buy trades as opposed to single issues. I'm just on the hunt for a good, enjoyable read. Plus trades are usually cheaper than buying all of the single issues that comprise it....especially from a retailer like Amazon or Wal-mart. They also usually have bonus material that wasn't included in the single issues. As well, I just don't want to wait 6-12 months for a complete story arc. I get it all in one volume to complete at my leisure. Having all of the issues bound together is more convenient and usually more durable than the single issues. And.....NO ADDS.....The list goes on.
I still go to the comic shop and look around every 3 months or so and get a feel for what's out and what I should look for once it hits trades. Marvel and DC know guys like me are out there, so every story arc ends up in trade now-a-days. So if you just have some patience to wait a few months, you end up better off.
Uncanny Orb
09-26-2005, 05:07 AM
Ghost Rider’s return to the world of comics is an unqualified success as Ghost Rider #1 has sold out at Diamond. After years out of the spotlight, Garth Ennis and Clayton Crain’s new twisted re-envisioning of Ghost Rider has scores of fans eager to sell their own soul for a copy.
Luckily, Marvel is releasing Ghost Rider #1 Director’s Cut filled with exclusive DVD-style extras so you don’t have to make a deal with the devil to get your hands on the return of the Spirit of Vengeance.
Fan and critical reaction has been astounding to Ghost Rider, with a slew of reviews pouring in to praise Ennis and Crain’s tale of demons, angels, and a certain flame-headed motorcyclist.
Hilary Goldstein of IGN.com says, “Ennis is the perfect man to take on Ghost Rider. Awesome art…and solid writing make this a must.”
Heidi Meeley of 4ColorReview.com says, “The story is brilliant and the art takes things to a whole new level. I can’t wait to see what Ennis and Crain have in store for Johnny Blaze.”
Ghost Rider #1 Director’s Cut will feature tons of new content including Garth Ennis’s original proposal, published and unpublished covers by Clayton Crain, and a behind-the-scenes look into how Ghost Rider went from script to thumbnail to final art.
Ghost Rider #1 flew off of the shelves so be sure to get your copy of Ghost Rider #1 Director’s Cut before it’s worth the price of your immortal soul.
GHOST RIDER #1 DIRECTOR’S CUT (AUG051901)
Written by GARTH ENNIS
Pencils & Cover by CLAYTON CRAIN
48 PGS./ PARENTAL ADVISORY ...$3.99
FOC – 9/22, On Sale – 10/12/2005
GHOST RIDER #1 POSTER (JUN052074)
Art by Clayton Crain
24” x 36”…$5.95
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5941
Thats 4 #1's now.:eek:
BIGGUN
09-26-2005, 10:01 PM
yeah i read about this awhile ago....mighty greedy on marvel's part :mad:
why not just put all that extra stuff in issue 1 to begin with? is marvel that desperate for money to issue a "director's cut" of issue 1?
and i hate that "director's cut" crap....its bad enough for movie companies to be going hog wild w/ the term but c'mon....comics too?
ah well....not much can be done at this point other than not buying the books. at least GR is back in action.
Uncanny Orb
09-28-2005, 05:25 AM
Yeah I'm going to pick up the poster for sure tho.
theescapeclause
10-06-2005, 04:49 PM
I didn't see this anywhere else on the boards, so I thought I'd post it. I was doing my weekly ghost rider Ebay search and came across a pre-sell for issue 4. Looks pretty badass.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/theescapeclause2/gr4.jpg
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b242/theescapeclause/98_1_b.jpg)
theescapeclause
10-06-2005, 10:31 PM
Sorry it didn't work before. I used the wrong account. enjoy.
FlameHead
10-06-2005, 10:59 PM
Enjoy I do! That's freakin' sweet man!
Rukus
10-07-2005, 01:36 AM
Cool cover.
Uncanny Orb
10-07-2005, 04:50 AM
Looks like ke's having a bit of trouble with Ruth.
Kuato
10-07-2005, 02:41 PM
This is pretty exciting news about the comic selling out. Hopefully this will mean awareness for the Ghost Rider movie will be very high by the time the release date rolls around.
I would like to have that as a poster on my wall.
Uncanny Orb
10-09-2005, 08:18 AM
I think the #2 would make a cool poster or tattoo.
theescapeclause
10-09-2005, 11:54 PM
Of all the covers I've seen, I think the retailer summit variant of issue 1 was the coolest. I hope they make a poster for that one.
Riding Ghost
10-10-2005, 08:52 AM
Of all the covers I've seen, I think the retailer summit variant of issue 1 was the coolest. I hope they make a poster for that one.
I agree :up:
Riding Ghost
10-12-2005, 05:58 PM
I went ahead and picked it up
It was a reprinting of#1 of course, followed by the proposal (a paragraph by Ennis about how he was approaching writing the story followed by a page description of the general storyline). Also a few pages of the dialoge of the issue in script form minus the pictures and several preliminary images of the covers and some pages.
The most interesting part was the paragraph on Ennis approach to writing this. He says
"This story can work equally well as a self-contained 6-issue series or as the first 6 episode arc of an ongoing book. I'm writing a fast paced action/horror story on a pretty epic scale, not an exercise in nostalgia. So I intend to ignore the character's regular supporting cast. As for the man himself: burning skull, yes, big ****-off motorbike, yes, but I'd like to make one alteration to his powers, rather than having him shoot fire from his hands, lets have him simply breathe great gouts of the stuff like a dragon, a much more impressive visual."
Also I didn't realize what that was on page 1 of #1, Ennis describes it like this
"Dominating the background , rising over the horizon like the sun, is what appears to be a burning planet, with a screaming human face- or maybe just mouth- in the flames, and Saturn-type rings around the planet itself. The rings can be made up of barbed wire, tiny human figures, chains of skeletons swirling endlessly around the planet."
I don't see why this couldn't have been just#1 and not the DC, other than squeezing a few more bucks out of the GR fans, but thats not surprising.
Goddamn variants, big reason why I stopped buying comics in general 8 years ago. If I remember when I go to a shop this... hell, no idea when, but when I do go, I'll pick up one copy. I usually like these kind of stories and features (one feature I liked about the Death's Head II Mini and Series back in the day), but the fact that they had to release a SECOND PRINTING of issue 1 a weel after the initial release just bugs the hell out of me.
On an unrelated note, was there a Man-Thing comic released that was unrelated to the movie (which doesn't exist, the dvd I own is not real) recently? A friend said he saw something a few months back, but isn't sure.
Uncanny Orb
10-13-2005, 06:01 AM
I don't see why this couldn't have been just#1 and not the DC, other than squeezing a few more bucks out of the GR fans, but thats not surprising.
Exactly.:down
FlameHead
10-17-2005, 12:32 PM
Did anyone read this issue yet? Nobody's talked about it and I havne't had the chance to get over to my shop to pick it up.
FlameHead
10-17-2005, 12:46 PM
Man, that cover is freakin' sweet. I can't wait to see the insides of this suckah!
Uncanny Orb
10-17-2005, 05:02 PM
Ya I got my copy last week, it's great as expected. I couldn't imagine not getting it the day it hit the shelves.
FlameHead
10-17-2005, 07:32 PM
Ya I got my copy last week, it's great as expected. I couldn't imagine not getting it the day it hit the shelves.
It's hard, trust me. If my shop was closer and I wasn't so tied up with Dracula rehearsals, I'd have it too. Damn Dracula!
Dammit. I still need to get out and get a handful of issues. Classes are really making this difficult.
Kuato
10-18-2005, 04:15 PM
Is it standard practice to release a Trade edition of limited run series? I missed out on the first issue and now my local comic shop has already run out of issue #2. At this point I think I may as well wait for a trade if one is going to be released.
hellfiremaster
10-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Reading the two new issues.. when GR speaks is he..
a- Ghost rider
b- Johnny Blaze
c- Zarathos
d- none of the above
HFM
BIGGUN
10-18-2005, 11:58 PM
Reading the two new issues.. when GR speaks is he..
a- Ghost rider
b- Johnny Blaze
c- Zarathos
d- none of the above
HFM
this has me concerned as i saw a panel preview from issue 2 and GR says "Sweet Lord".....ugh. that aint GR....thats Blaze and is something i was afraid that the book would go back to (Blaze controlling and talking through GR...had enough of that in the 1st 20 or so issues of the 70s series)
i still need to pick up issue 2 to see for myself...im hoping that since that scene was in Hell as punishment Blaze and GR are not only forced to share the same body but the same consciousness...so when one feels pain so would the other. im also hoping that once GR gets back to Earth they will go back to having control of the same body one at a time.
zanos
10-19-2005, 12:18 AM
I'm really liking this comic so far.
Mr Nick
10-19-2005, 02:52 AM
Certainly sounds like Blaze to me. I don't mind though, I'm just thrilled at seeing him back. And in fabulous style!:up:
Uncanny Orb
10-19-2005, 04:52 AM
I would say Blaze\Zarathos. He's got to have the demon part to get the look.
FlameHead
10-19-2005, 12:17 PM
What I personally love most about this article is the part I have bolded. Isn't that freakin' sweet. I smell an ongoing... though, I've thought I've smelt that before.
Link: http://comics.ign.com/articles/659/659461p1.html
October 18, 2005 - Ghost Rider #3
32 full color pages
Release Date: November 9, 2005
Price: $2.99
Ghost Rider finally gets his hands on some demon hide in Ghost Rider #3 and when he does, vengeance will undoubtedly be unleashed. This is the all-out, demon-pulverizing fight that fans have been clamoring for since Ghost Rider's return.
Says Executive Editor Axel Alonso: "In issue #3, Garth and Clayton put the pedal to the metal. Ghost Rider chases down the redneck Demon Hoss for the first big fight scene of the series. And things go from bad to worse when Archangel Ruth crashes the party. Definitely not for the squeamish."
Ennis's twisted ideas combined with the haunting art of Crain is sure to blow you away in this issue. Both creators finally get to cut loose and show the Spirit of Vengeance doing what he does best: trouncing evil demons with extreme prejudice.
Ghost Rider is hot on the heels of the rogue demon Kazaan when he crosses paths with Hoss, a redneck bounty hunter. And when Ghost Rider is done with him, Hoss is going to wish he never got in his way.
Find out why Ghost Rider is one of the best-reviewed books of the year:
Kenneth Gallant of BrokenFrontier.com says, "[Clayton Crain's] work is breathtaking to look at, and his use of CGI has given this series a horrific look."
Hilary Goldstein of IGN.com says, "Touches of humor and classic Ennis malice make for a very enjoyable read."
Be sure to pick up Ghost Rider #3 for the most horrific and unholy fight of 2005. This haunting issue is guaranteed to leave you a little squeamish. - Marvel
There are some images on the site, btw.
Uncanny Orb
10-19-2005, 12:55 PM
Looks great.
Spaz350
10-19-2005, 10:45 PM
Is that a tentacle or something Hoss is fighting with?
Cubs Fan
10-20-2005, 09:13 AM
Is that a tentacle or something Hoss is fighting with?
Thats what it looks like. Cant tell where its coming from, looks like its coming out of his stomach.
Mr Nick
10-20-2005, 11:28 AM
Well, Issue 1 was cool. Issue 2 was even better. Issue 3, with GR back on Earth and getting into a ruck is going to be awesome.
I'm loving this series so far. The writing's real edgy and the art is stunning. Crain's Ghost Rider is spot-on.
:up: :up:
Gamma Warrior
10-20-2005, 07:26 PM
Sweet.
FlameHead
10-21-2005, 12:55 AM
Kuato, I'm not sure if it's standard practice to release a trade but I'm sure we'll get one for this limited series. Not sure when that'll happen though... probably sometime close to the movie.
I finally got a chance to get over to my shop and pic up the issue. Man, it's freakin' awesome. I really love the art. It's amazing really and Ennis is writtin' one hell of story with some truly interesting characters. I can't wait to read further...
I can't find one damn issue anywhere. Hopefully store will stock up on more issue 2's, but this is also the store that never came through on the Dark Design.
FlameHead
10-21-2005, 11:06 PM
For those interested, the first 9 pages of issue 3 are now posted here; http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6056
Looks amazing. Can't wait to read it, especially because I just finished issue 2 yesterday.
FlameHead
10-22-2005, 12:49 PM
I vowed not to buy this book because it's a waste of money... until actually seein' it in my comic shop the other day. Now I have it safely tucked away in my hold box for the next visit.
Damn you Marvel.
I only bought 1 issue because of the cover. The framework cover was very interesting to see (actually, for some reason, I like it better than the original.)
If they have another one when I go back to the shop, I'll most likely pick another up to actually check out the extra material.
Kuato
10-24-2005, 03:40 PM
Went to my local comics shop and they actually had both issues one and two...finally! I am pretty pumped to read these as these will be my first Ghost Rider comics since I has a wee one...
FlameHead
11-05-2005, 08:01 AM
This is quite an excellent question but I would have to think that it's Blaze talkin' through Ghost Rider, though they never refer to him as Blaze and only Ghost Rider... so, it's very hard to tell. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
After the "...my head is on fire!" line from issue 2, I would say Blaze is the personality.
Uncanny Orb
11-10-2005, 04:56 AM
Once again Crains art was fantastic, lots more action. I am finding there is getting to be to many characters being introduced for a 6 issue mini unless there is going to be one hell of a battle royal at the end, it just seems that 3 issues is going to seem rushed now. Did anyone notice the flaming wheels missing?
Riding Ghost
11-10-2005, 03:23 PM
Did anyone notice the flaming wheels missing?
A lot of flames seem to be missing, GR seems more....extinguished than I'm used too.
When GR breathed fire on Hoss, I suppose it was interesting to see, but I couldn't imagine reading an ongoing where that was one of his primary things he did.
GR definately appears to be Blaze when he's talking, I wonder if that will change before the end.
I thought #1 did a good job of retelling his past and seems to be progressing ok, but I didn't like what appeared to be subtle advocacy of communism in #3.
Shockdingo
11-10-2005, 04:57 PM
I'm pretty sure it's Blaze but it doesn't bother me as I thought it would.
theescapeclause
11-10-2005, 08:43 PM
Did anyone notice how they squeezed all those ads in the back of the book. Maybe Marvel got some complaints about the first two issues having to many ads. I thought this was an awesome move on Marvel's part. I noticed a lot more full page spreads in this one. All those colorfull ads were way to distracting.
I miss the old days of adds that were small, yellow, nothing but text and all fit on one page.
As much as I want this series, I'm not looking forward to picking up my 3 issues tomorrow.
theescapeclause
11-11-2005, 12:57 PM
I can't find any words to describe how f'n sweet this looks.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/theescapeclause2/GHORID005_FLCOV.jpg
Mr Nick
11-12-2005, 03:38 AM
Wow. I love the level of detail Crain puts in his art. He's a brilliant artist.
I felt the same about Val Siemiekis' work on Lobo. He used to put everything and the kitchen sink in there. Lord knows how long it took him to draw some of those pages. It was insane.
:eek:
Uncanny Orb
11-12-2005, 06:36 AM
If theres an ongoing I hope he stays around, thats beauty.
Definately need to pick up this issue for the cover
FlameHead
11-12-2005, 07:54 AM
That is freakin' sweet man. I want a poster of it. In fact, I'd love to have a poster for all the covers of this mini so far. Crain is brilliant!
BIGGUN
11-12-2005, 04:21 PM
MM..where you been dude?
school cant be that bad ...or could it? heh
Spaz350
11-12-2005, 05:25 PM
looks like the Kazaan and GR start throwing down in #5... can't wait!
Reaper
11-14-2005, 02:31 PM
MM..where you been dude?
Id say hes pissed :mad:
All that hard work with the site and all and he didnt get any free goodies from msj like some others did. very disheartening Im sure
FlameHead
11-14-2005, 04:59 PM
Well, we're not sure if he got them or not actually. Plus, I can't see MM gettin' pissed over it and never return to the site. Sure, he may be dissapointed but he wouldn't do that... I don't think. He's busy I'd say.
Either way, whatever it is that's keepin' him away, he sure is missed.
Mr Nick
11-17-2005, 06:20 AM
Just finished issue 3. The writing's still darkly humourous, which is a winner in my book, and Crain's art is as amazing as ever. I don't like the floating skull though. It looks plain weird. Fire breath was cool, but I'm not so sure about the chains shooting out of his mouth.
P.S. Am I the only one who fancies Miss Catmint?
:up:
Reaper
11-17-2005, 08:55 AM
I didn't like what appeared to be subtle advocacy of communism in #3.
this is the guy who wrote the preacher we're talkin about here
you can expect certain things.
Riding Ghost
11-19-2005, 12:42 PM
you can expect certain things.
Well
thats unfortunate
FlameHead
11-19-2005, 02:06 PM
Well, finally had a chance to pick up Iss 3 yesterday and had a read of it. I still love the book so far and Crain's work is just amazing... though I do have a few complaints. I really don't understand the floating head. Why does he not have a spinal column? I'm not sure why I didn't notice this in the previous issues but you can certainly tell in some of the shots of this one that there is no neck. Looks silly, in my opinion.
With regards to the flames and the chains from the mouth, I really enjoyed the flame breath. I thought it to be a great addition to Ghost Riders powers and loved the line "You don't spend 2 years in hell without picking up a few new tricks". I thought this explained his new powers quite nicely... however, I really hate the chains. It just doesn't make sense that he can project those things from his mouth. It's just silly and looks dumb. Not a fan of that at all. New tricks learned in hell or not, just dumb.
Also, did anyone else get a page that wasn't black or colored? Page 3 had white borders and I found it really took me away from the experience. I know I'm nitpickin' now but I had to see if it was just my comic or all of them that were like that. I assume it's all of them.
All in all, great read. I love the work that's goin' on and I really hope it continues past the next 3.
theescapeclause
11-21-2005, 12:37 PM
I think this one's my new fav.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/theescapeclause2/GhostRider6.jpg
Mr Nick
11-21-2005, 01:49 PM
Cool. Very Christmas-y!
What the Dickens IS that thing he's holding? It's on Marvel's wallpaper too. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
:confused:
InVictus
11-21-2005, 03:00 PM
It's a Maul, i think: a mace without spikes.
http://guide.jp.uo.com/images/w_hammer.jpg
(third one from left)
It seems that in this miniserie he can create it when necessary.
Still, i like more the old multipurpose chain...
InVictus
11-21-2005, 03:03 PM
Cool. Very Christmas-y!
Er, i don't really think falling ashes make jolly xmas:D
Very cool lightning here, and that front wheel without spokes...and beautiful chrome reflexes..neat.
Riding Ghost
11-22-2005, 09:24 AM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/rdrghst3/1d4c6079.jpg
Riding Ghost
11-22-2005, 09:26 AM
The cover reminded me of that pic.
FlameHead
11-23-2005, 06:33 AM
As sad as it is to think that issue 6 is comin' soon... that cover is so awesome that I can't find the words to explain. Brilliant!
Hellstormer
11-26-2005, 06:43 PM
It sounds like that sarcastic s.o.b. Blaze
Venom Drool
12-15-2005, 09:55 PM
indeed... though im loving this series..i had originally planned on picking up at least the first issue... it hooked me.. great story.. hope to see some more in the future
Venom Drool
12-15-2005, 09:57 PM
i would image two perosnalities in one body would be kinda crappy and lead to cliched story lines
Uncanny Orb
12-17-2005, 03:20 PM
Is anyone finding that the whole pace of this mini is seriously screwed up, I keep thinking I hope the next one is better. Of course the art is nothing short of amazing but I'm really not to impressed with the rest. Oh well maybe the next one will be better.
Riding Ghost
12-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Is anyone finding that the whole pace of this mini is seriously screwed up, I keep thinking I hope the next one is better. Of course the art is nothing short of amazing but I'm really not to impressed with the rest. Oh well maybe the next one will be better.
I've been feeling similarly about the whole thing myself. I'm not hating it, but I'm not thrilled either.
Personally, with the way the art portrays him and the way he speaks, he seems kinda........weak to me. I'm not sold on the art, but it does look better than kaniuga's, sam kieth, and pop mahn's renditions. The pic of GR on the last page of #4 showing panels from upcoming issue looks pretty damn good though(side view on bike).
Actually, I always loved Sam Keith's rendition of GR. Tried to emulate it a few times in the past (and failed). Anyhoo, onto the comic.
The story so far has been disappointing, and the part where [spolier]the angel rips the brain out of the soilder was just sad to see, Caine really flubbed on that one[/spoiler]. The writing of this story just doesn't flow well. I was told by countless comic fans that this writer was golden and this should be a fantastic story, and yet here I sit, reading the comic, hoping to the story has less pages than usual just so I can put the damn thing down already. As magnificant the art is, the writing just does not make the story worth it.
NiИ-Devil_-NiИ
12-21-2005, 06:13 PM
Both pics are really cool :up:
Awesome cover! But...why does his skull look metallic?
theescapeclause
12-21-2005, 11:14 PM
I thought the first issue was fantastic. The rest have been kinda.... meh. We're on the fourth of six issues and nothing big has happened. We saw GR fight for a few panels, and that was it. It almost seems to me like Ennis had this story a long time ago and never made it. Then one day Marvel called for him to do a GR mini, so he slapped Ghosty in the middle of this story that had nothing to do with either Ghost Rider. Like the other guy said, maybe the next one will be good.
Well, one thing to say, the covers for this series have been spectacular.
I like the idea of Ghost Rider using a maul to club his opponents. Just feels right (especially after that whole chain from mouth panel). Only problem I have with it is that it looks to have more flames than Ghostie's skull.
I just noticed that the wheel has no spokes on it. It looks free floating.
GraveDigger
01-10-2006, 07:15 PM
As sad as it is to think that issue 6 is comin' soon... that cover is so awesome that I can't find the words to explain. Brilliant!
I can...
"Don't **** with Ghost Rider"!
theescapeclause
01-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Was awesome. Best issue yet. That pic when Ghost Rider is on his bike was the most badass thing I've seen yet. Also, they gave some pretty sweet clues to Ghostie's future in the letters page.
ps. Congrats to Flame-Head for getting his letter printed!!!!!
theescapeclause
01-11-2006, 03:46 PM
Was awesome. Best issue yet. That pic when Ghost Rider is on his bike was the most badass thing I've seen yet. Also, they gave some pretty sweet clues to Ghostie's future in the letters page.
ps. Congrats to Flame-Head for getting his letter printed!!!!!
theescapeclause
01-11-2006, 08:27 PM
sorry about the double post, I can't seem to delete it.
FlameHead
01-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Was awesome. Best issue yet. That pic when Ghost Rider is on his bike was the most badass thing I've seen yet. Also, they gave some pretty sweet clues to Ghostie's future in the letters page.
ps. Congrats to Flame-Head for getting his letter printed!!!!!
What?? Are you serious? I haven't had time to get to my local shop and pick it up yet so, this is news to me! Are you sure it's my letter?
theescapeclause
01-12-2006, 11:43 AM
I'm pretty sure. It said your name and was from Newfoundland. The guy said he spends hours online talking about Ghost Rider. It talked about how much they liked the series, then they gave 'em a little hell for not putting out #94 of vol. 2. If it's not you, sorry for getting you hopes up!! :(
FlameHead
01-12-2006, 11:51 AM
Yup, that's my letter! Unless of course there is another guy from Newfoundland who said pretty much exactly what I did.
Did they print my name? Stephen Harris? Could have been Steve Harris too I guess. I only recently started going by Stephen, professionally anyway.... not that a letter to Marvel is a professional thing or anything.
Wow. That's pretty exciting though. I gotta get over there and get it!
theescapeclause
01-12-2006, 01:02 PM
Yeah, your names on it. I think it was Stephen. Not sure though. I recognized it from your signature.
FlameHead
01-12-2006, 01:52 PM
Wowie Mowie. That's all I gotta say. Thanks for letting me know!!
Riding Ghost
01-12-2006, 03:57 PM
Yep, definately you Flamehead :up:
Their response said "you got it, Stephen. See you in 30!"
Does the "you got it" refer to you last statement "Please, PLEASE make this an ongoing" ?
Uncanny Orb
01-12-2006, 04:04 PM
I think there must be a Carter Slade book on the horizon.
FlameHead
01-13-2006, 09:51 AM
That would certainly be interesting...
Yep, definately you Flamehead :up:
Their response said "you got it, Stephen. See you in 30!"
Does the "you got it" refer to you last statement "Please, PLEASE make this an ongoing" ?
I'm still in a slight state of shock over having that printed. Crazyness. I'm taking time out of my campaign today to go over and get it.
I certainly hope that the "you got it" is in reference to an ongoing. That would be ultimate!
Riding Ghost
01-13-2006, 02:52 PM
I'm still in a slight state of shock over having that printed.
Understandable :ghost:
I'm taking time out of my campaign today to go over and get it.
Now thats a politician I can respect. Ghost Rider should be right up there with national priorities such as taxes and healthcare :up:
That would be part of my platform--Strong military, anti-terrorism, low taxes aaannndddd free use of national lands and military for any studio making a quality Ghost Rider movie.
FlameHead
01-14-2006, 11:02 AM
I'm not really a politician. I'm just a guy with a voice and a concern for the direction our Country is headed. Having said that, my priorities are straight. I wouldn't turn my back on ol' FlameFace, no matter how busy I am. My addiction will not allow it.
So, I picked up the issue yesterday and yup, it's me. They printed the entire letter too, no edits, no nothing. I still can't help smiling over it. Never in my life did I think I'd get a letter printed in Marvel and therefor never wrote them. First time writing, first time printing. Not bad. Makes me wonder if there are any of the team chatting on or just viewing the hype.
2006 is shapin' up to be a great year! Now, if I can only convince the world that we're destroying ourselves, I'll be all set. Speakin' of which, I better get back at it.
Gamma Warrior
01-20-2006, 12:10 AM
GR better get to fight soon.I want to see GR kick @$$.:mad: :ghost:
Uncanny Orb
01-20-2006, 04:41 AM
I can't imagine anything topping the Ruth-Hoss fight, priceless.
Gamma Warrior
01-20-2006, 11:05 AM
It twas a good bought,but I want to see the title character take names and Kick @$$ like he used too.:( :ghost:
I will say, this was the best issue of the mini so far, however Gamma is right, GR should have really ****ed a lot of people up by now.
Uncanny Orb
01-22-2006, 07:39 AM
The whole series has been pretty poor. Thats right I said it.
The whole series has been pretty poor. Thats right I said it.
And it's already been said.
Uncanny Orb
01-22-2006, 07:52 AM
Oh ya? Well it was probably me, and I'm saying it again.
Riding Ghost
01-22-2006, 02:57 PM
LOL
I don't think GR calling someone a "cracker" helped much either, just doesn't seem like a term GR should or would use. But then maybe thats just me.
BIGGUN
01-22-2006, 03:18 PM
LOL
I don't think GR calling someone a "cracker" helped much either, just doesn't seem like a term GR should or would use. But then maybe thats just me.
no...it aint just you...the idea is LAME.
the series has great art, true...story is ok....but this just isnt GR. i was hoping it would pick up and actually show GR as the true ass kicker that he is....but so far nada.
Mr Nick
01-29-2006, 06:27 AM
There's one issue to go and, frankly, I fear for Miss Catmint. If anything horrible happens to her...
Well it's too awful to contemplate.
:eek:
FlameHead
01-31-2006, 03:43 PM
I can't imagine anything topping the Ruth-Hoss fight, priceless.
Yeah, that was pretty awesome, I gotta agree.
There are a lot of highlights to the book but yeah, it's missing something.
Uncanny Orb
02-01-2006, 09:08 AM
There are a lot of highlights to the book but yeah, it's missing something.
A great story, action, stuff like that.
FlameHead
02-02-2006, 11:29 AM
LoL. Yeah, understandable.
I don't hate the series at all but, it is a little slow paced for my liking. Not enough has happened in it yet which is a downfall considering it's only 6 issues. It should be packed with story.
Having said that, there is a hell of a lot that I like about it too. I mean, it's a thousand times better than that hammer crap series. Bleck.
Riding Ghost
02-09-2006, 10:40 AM
well, the mini has concluded. What do you think? What prospects do you think this holds for the new game? Do you want Ennis on the developing ongoing?
Gamma Warrior
02-09-2006, 11:09 AM
What Happened?
Reaper
02-09-2006, 12:27 PM
I liked the Hammer Lane better even though it was lame that GR didnt talk and greysons johnny b seemed off quite a bit from what he should be. Still her GR himself was better I think plus more action.
Parts of this was ok, but overall suckarooo:down
FlameHead
02-09-2006, 12:34 PM
I really really don't like the Hammer Lane series. I wanna say hate but, it's not a word I can say easily... well, I just said it but, you know what I mean.
I'm on my way over to my local shop now to get issue 6. Better be there...
I'll let ya know what I thought.
theescapeclause
02-09-2006, 08:20 PM
Coulda been better, coulda been worse. The first two issues were amazing, then the middle two were terrible. I thought it was getting better with 5, but 6 kinda let me down. Did anyone read the review on ign.com? Ouch.
Gamma Warrior
02-09-2006, 08:29 PM
It sucked.Ennis tries to make everything so dark and mature that he forgets to throw the fun elements in for the reader.
Maybe I should pass on picking this issue up from what I've been reading about it.
Riding Ghost
02-10-2006, 02:52 PM
I voted C
There were parts I liked, issue 1 had a good setup for a good story and good explanation of GR's past. Also thought that scene where hells minions finally caught GR and were carrying him off to hell looked cool. A few panels of the art I thought were great, but overall I really wasn't that impressed with the look of the comic.
There were parts I didn't like. I didn't like the couple of subtle political references for one. And after reading this mini and pondering the whole thing, I can truly say I think the flames and chains coming out of his mouth was retarded. An ongoing with him doing that will suck ass IMO. No penance stare--no excuse for that. This was not GR, but I still gave it a C because I think it did have a few redeeming qualities, but more of a C- than a C+ :)
If you look at it from the perspective of not knowing anything about GR before reading it, the story was interesting and mildly entertaining at times. Only problem, It had more to do with Kazaan, Ruth and Hoss than with GR. As a story it was good, but as a GR story it kinda sucked.
Really, I'd give HammerLane a C too. It had both good and bad aspects to it as well.
I can't help but hope that Ennis is not on the ongoing, especially if GR can't hold his freakin chain!!
Uncanny Orb
02-12-2006, 02:51 PM
Other than the art the rest was pretty dissapointing.
Mr Nick
02-13-2006, 08:02 AM
It was nice to see the real hero of the story shine at the end. Three cheers for Miss Catmint!
Now, I'd like to see an ongoing series: Jemima Catmint: Secretary Supreme. That'd rule.
Oh yeah, that Ghost Strider fella was pretty cool too.
:D
str8raz0r
02-13-2006, 11:07 AM
I liked the mini overall, despite it being wholly depressing. Seeing our friend Johnny finally paying the full price for his sins was bleak, and the book as a whole was so utterly nasty at times (the little kid in the diner who sees Ruth...brrr)
However, it's certainly an interesting direction to explore for GR, much more dark and bleak than either volume ever got, and certainly far more epic in feel. I'm hoping for the next mini/ongoing to keep the dark tone, but with some more action! We've seen a few snippets of GR's redesigned powers (the chains out of the mouth were rather Hellraiserish), now let's see him USE them.
Oh, and the last two pages of #6 are incredibly satisfying stuff!
crivelliman
02-13-2006, 06:14 PM
I really didn't want to buy issue six, but I bought all the other damn issues so I really needed closure. While I've never posted on the GR forums, I hope you don't mind my thoughts.
- The art: pretty freaking cool. To me, seems perfectly appropriate for a flat-out Ghost Rider comic book. However: completely wrong for this story. Lots of talking, not enough action, and the action that was there was either lacking or extremely crowded. I'd love to see more Ghost Rider riding through the open road through the desert and less fat crippled old men in mechanical wheelchairs.
- The writing: ooh! Lacking! And it's Ennis! He does such a fantastic job with Punisher, and his Preacher story was of course fantastic. But this... I got where he was going with it, or where he wanted to go, but maybe he should have been story consultant and not flat-out writer. "Buttview?"
- The story: nah. Ennis thinks creatures from the afterlife are douchebags. We get it. If you want to tell a story about etherial hypocricy, write an original story. If you want to write a story about a man with a flaming skull for a head who made a pact with the devil, DO THAT! Don't waste my time talking to "Ms Catmint."
- The character: Is GR usually a whiner? And a dupe? Because he was both in this story.
Overall, I'd say the whole thing was kind of meh, but definitely had potential. I'd like to see another mini-series putting GR back in the MU without making him boring, but it could be that just isn't possible. A lot of people tell me that Ghost Rider is essentially just a really cool poster, but not much of a comic book. So far, with this as the execution, I'd tend to side with the poster-pimpers.
Uncanny Orb
02-14-2006, 01:49 PM
Makes me wonder how many first time GR readers will be turned off of the next book because of this mini. It's a damn shame.
The BatDude
02-14-2006, 08:13 PM
i went with C cause it was just Ghost Rider running around to stop a demon not really much of a Ghost Rider story for me
FlameHead
02-14-2006, 10:14 PM
First of all, crivelliman, welcome to the GR section. We welcome your comments very much. Come back often.
Issue 6. It's complete. It's a litle sad to see it go, nobody can dissagree, whether you liked it or not. It's just nice to look forward to a Ghost Rider comic every month and now that it's not on the print list for a while, I'm a left feeling a little empty.
I sat down and read all 6 issues today. Finally had a change to do it after almost a week of wanting to. All in all, I gotta say that it was quite enjoyable... for what it was. And what it was, was a Ghost Rider story. One that was much better than hammer lane.
Now, I have to agree with most in saying that the story lacked Ghost Rider but, I am very fond of the characters and plot. In fact, I found that there was so much great stuff going on that they could have used another 6 issues to develop it. Or another 6 issues to see Ghost Rider travelling around hell taking Hoss' advice and finding pleasures wherever he can.
The only thing about Ghost Rider himself that I didn't like was his speech. It didn't have the power Ghost Rider should have. The reason why I don't really let this bother me is because I realize that it's not really Ghost Rider who's speaking. It's Johnny. From what I gather, 2 Years ago, he was brought to hell and in hell he is stuck being the thing he hates the most, Ghost Rider. Talk about hell being a ****ty place to be... let alone the fact he gets torn to pieces every day.
Was it the best Ghost Rider to date? No. Will it push newcomers to the character away from flameface? No, I don't think so. I really think that those who don't know the characters history, this would be a great mini to read. Exciting action, interesting characters and fantastic artwork.
I gave it a B.
The BatDude
02-15-2006, 05:39 PM
^ agreed
Fettstyl
02-19-2006, 03:03 PM
It sucked. I voted accordingly.
The only thing I've seen thats been really positive the past 8 month is the ghost rider revealed footage, looks promising.
What they need to do is start the ongoing about the same time as the movie with tex/javier minus ennis and have it be an updated version of the original(jb) barrowing a few things from the ketchera(like they are with the movie). The ongoing should feature the movie bike and his "costume" should be the movie one (ketchish but all leather). Most importantly, unlike this series, the comic should center around The Ghost Rider. Also the mouth blasts did suck. He should use his hellfire blasts, fireballs, chain, and penance stare.
After finally purchasing this issue, I'm glad to say it is over.
The story Ennis wrote was a good one in general, but the lead character could have been played by anyone, really. Ghost Rider felt, to me, like he was thrown into a story by Ennis had already written and said to himself "Well, I finally have a reason to use this story. A few tweaks here and there, and we have the next Ghost Rider mini."
Ghost Rider felt secondary in the story. Miss Catmint felt more like a main character than Ghost Rider. It really was a comic series I could have done without.
But, due to the artwork and the supporting cast of characters, I gave it a C. I really could have used the 60 bucks I spent on the series on something better, though.
Mr Nick
02-21-2006, 06:22 AM
Ghost Rider felt secondary in the story. Miss Catmint felt more like a main character than Ghost Rider.
All hail Miss Catmint!
;)
Vanguard07
02-24-2006, 12:39 AM
The artwork was great and i kinda liked the ending. What happened to that angel (i forget his name) to me was pretty amusing. sure GR got ****ed in the end but at least he made it worse for the other guy.
Riding Ghost
02-25-2006, 03:26 PM
It sucked. I voted accordingly.
The only thing I've seen thats been really positive the past 8 month is the ghost rider revealed footage, looks promising.
What they need to do is start the ongoing about the same time as the movie with tex/javier minus ennis and have it be an updated version of the original(jb) barrowing a few things from the ketchera(like they are with the movie). The ongoing should feature the movie bike and his "costume" should be the movie one (ketchish but all leather). Most importantly, unlike this series, the comic should center around The Ghost Rider. Also the mouth blasts did suck. He should use his hellfire blasts, fireballs, chain, and penance stare.
Hey Fett, good to see you back from your subaticle :)
It looks like the new book will have movie like bike and GR outfit and with a new writer I'm hoping the burp powers are gone. Hopefully Way will see that GRs traditional powers, including hellfire blasts and literal burning of souls, is the way to go. We shall see.
The past 8 month? I thought the comiccon footage was pretty good. Imagine the Ghost Rider Revealed footage combined and finetuned with the comiccon footage. I'm looking forward to it :up:
Dan Ketch
03-02-2006, 12:41 PM
I give it a C
Mr.GhostRider
03-18-2006, 03:00 AM
Man, you guys are harsh. I enjoyed issues 1-5 immennsely, the art was amazing, I like the "adult" "dark" theme, but HATED, that GR didn't make it out of hell. I F*&in was shocked, and Hated that. I thought this would be his chance out. Yeah, Miss Catmint saved it, and what some of you don't seem to grasp, is that a "hero" shouldn't/can't be the fu*&in hero every issue. The dude just got outta hell, I don't expect him to be smelling like a rose right away, it wouldve been perfect if Johnny coulda said "**** you Hell, I ain't goin back" and then start kickin ass again, here on earth. Just mho. Ghost Rider, even when I was a kid in the seventies, was always "adult" themed, which made him even cooler in my book. Hoss's words are still in my soul, even tho I haven't read #6 in a month, "The first million years are the hardest". That makes me wanna puke, tho now thinkin bout it, that fat F*&k didn't spend no million years there, :O
Uncanny Orb
03-18-2006, 04:46 AM
To each his own.
BIGGUN
03-18-2006, 11:09 AM
it was an ok series, art was superb...but it was a "meh" Ghost Rider story. GR didnt act like himself and wasnt the object of fear and power that the angels alluded to in issue one. he seemed more like a regular guy who's skull was on fire...and not a rampaging demon bent on vengeance. also hated that this was treated for laughs instead of being serious. A problem which was also shared w/ the Hammer Lane mini-series...but at least that series attempted to get the character of GR right...at least in the beginning.
C- :down
FlameHead
03-21-2006, 09:39 PM
I kinda enjoyed the humour of the series, personally. The Buttview thing, and all such darker funnies, are pretty enjoyable. Of course, that's just me.
I can't wait to see their verson of the past. A past we've yet to see.
32CAGE
03-28-2006, 06:16 PM
Gave it a C. The series started out with great promise but fizzled out at the end.
thakey
03-30-2006, 12:33 PM
i vote c bcuz it was great to see gr again and i had to compare it to the others for judgment
70s series-A
90s-A+
hammer lane-0 F- terrible
ennis- C
Midnyte_Sun
04-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Artwork was great throughout and the end and the story fit into the GR theme, but the only thing I didnt like was the fact that it was too short and I found that most of the comic was advertising rather than material.
Did anyone get a chance to pick up the Baltimore Retailer's variant cover comic? I just found one today at my local shop for 10 dollars, invested in it. Looks like that's the current general price for the comic, if you can find it.
Just need that one other painted cover by... I want to say Eric Risbi but that's probably wrong... to pretty much have this series covered.
FlameHead
04-12-2006, 07:40 PM
I need both.
It's Esad Ribic. Very close though.
Thread here about it if interested:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193423
RabidWolfe
04-15-2006, 03:45 PM
Horrid, horrid issue.
I liked Miss Catmint. I wouldn't mind seeing her as a returning character. But she's about the only thing I liked.
Really, this was "The amazing adventures of Ruth and Hoss, with occasionaly appearances by Ghost Rider and some useless preacher guy who adds nothing to the tale."
Ennis can write better than this. He must have been on cruise control.
Hunter Rider
05-20-2006, 10:47 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0785115927/qid=1148139420/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_2_1/026-3290450-4719607
I have to buy all my comics in TPB form and i avoided any threads on this book so to be spoiler free when i read it.
Now time has come that it is ready to be ordered so i was wondering how did fans find it(without giving spoilers away) before i lay down the cash
BIGGUN
05-20-2006, 03:36 PM
well...it was ok....just not a great GR series IMO.
GR didnt act like GR ...more like Blaze in GR's body. and he didnt kick very much ass or not enough of it.
story was ok, some of the supporting characters were interesting...art was GREAT.
still its much better than Hammer Lane....although HL got closer to what the personality of GR should be in at least the 1st few issues.
although its flawed i would still recommend it
FlameHead
05-22-2006, 09:01 PM
Yes, get it. Of course get it.
I agree with BG though. It wasn't the best Ghost Rider story out there, mainly because it lacked Ghost Rider, but it was still worth reading for the art. Simply incredible I think. Don't get me wrong, the story was great too, just not Ghost Rider-y enough.
OptimusPrimeRib
06-08-2006, 12:25 PM
I just purchased issues 1, 5, & 6. Read issue i last night, story looks promising, art is incredible. Of course now I am tempted to read issues 5 and 6 since I have them on hand. I have to find 2,3 & 4 this weekend. This is my first venture into reading a "current comic" in about 15 years so I'm excited.
OptimusPrimeRib
06-09-2006, 07:49 AM
I found issues 1,5,&6 still on the rack with the new stuff. In fact they had several copies of issue 1. When did this originally come anyway? It's worth buying for art alone.
Buy the TPB. It's worth it to at least own and read through, if you don't have the issues. Not the best, but nowhere near the level of Hammer Lane or Siege of Darkness (still very bitter over that one). The Ghost Rider itself was Blaze and not a possession, but then again, it made sense to me why he was Ghost Rider and not possessed.
You know I speak the truth. Pick it up, if anything, for the art. Just don't get your hopes up when you do.
OptimusPrimeRib
06-09-2006, 08:53 AM
Off subject I know, but what's the deal with Hammer Lane? Obviously it was bad, I've never heard a good thing about it. I assume it was a mini series, is there a TBP?
FlameHead
06-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Yes, there is. Don't buy it.
OptimusPrimeRib
06-12-2006, 05:13 PM
Yes, there is. Don't buy it.
Ah come on, give me a quick overview. Otherwise my curiosity will get the best of me and I'll have to buy it just to find out why it was so bad.
webhead731
06-22-2006, 02:05 AM
The comic was too weird for me.
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