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Spider - Man
05-24-2006, 07:44 AM
And he says he'll start with the gray armor then move to the modern one!

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1532303/story.jhtml

3dman27
05-24-2006, 08:15 AM
could someone print the item links don't seem to work much for me since our computer was upgraded

POWdER-man
05-24-2006, 08:26 AM
05.23.2006 12:07 PM EDT

Have Doubts About The 'Iron Man' Movie? Jon Favreau Wants To Hear Them


Director reveals film details, takes suggestions from fans of the comic hero via MySpace.

Typically, the announcement of a big-budget blockbuster is followed by months (if not years) of avoidance. Stars, directors and producers dodge questions like jury summonses, fearing that they could reveal fan-angering character updates,

The star of "Swingers" and director of "Elf" and "Zathura" was recently handed the keys to the next great superhero franchise, a highly anticipated adaptation of the five-decades-strong "Iron Man" comic series (see "Marvel Hires Hollywood Heavyweights For Slate Of Superheroes"). Now a few weeks into his new gig, the lifelong comics fan is battling questions with a weapon that even Tony Stark might hesitate to unleash: honesty.

"The questions are coming on the Internet," a grinning Favreau reported this weekend. "I've got a MySpace group set up just to discuss the movie, so I welcome the input."

Favreau is making himself available to diehard fans of the gold-and-red superhero, who will step in front of a movie camera for the first time at the beginning of next year.

"It's the first movie Marvel is self-financing," he said of a new deal that frees the makers of the "Spider-Man" and "X-Men" movies from studio control. "We're set to come out in the summer of '08, and we'll start shooting in January."

Favreau insisted that he's eager to construct his movie using input from the fans — because he is one himself.

"I remember watching the Iron Man cartoons when I was younger," Favreau revealed. "I remember reading the origin stories and some of the Silver Age stuff, and I read 'The Avengers' — 'The Defenders' and then 'The Avengers,' and that sort of brought me into 'Iron Man.' "

"It was later when [Marvel Studios CEO] Avi [Arad] approached me to work on this and we discussed [the history of the character]," he continued. "And then I did a lot more research, and really learned everything that has happened in the last 40 years."

Created in 1963 as an anti-communist hero, Iron Man originally played off national defense concerns and technological advancement themes of that period. The hero's alter ego is (with the exception of occasional fill-ins) Tony Stark, an American industrialist billionaire living out a Bruce Wayne-type life of privilege. His virtually impenetrable armor allows him to soar through the air, possess superhuman strength and unleash everything from repulsor beams to magnetic fields and holograms. Iron Man's suit has constantly changed with the times, a technological evolution Favreau is making plans to portray.

"We're gonna have it take place in the present day, but there will be an origin story that has the old, gray Iron Man suit; eventually it will progress into more of the modern look," Favreau said. "That's the fun of doing the first one."

Favreau is clearly having plenty of fun putting the project together. Recently on his MySpace page, the director posted the film's "first preliminary image." It was a stick-figure sketch by his 4-year-old son, Max.

Acknowledging the darkness of films like "Batman Begins," the director said that Iron Man can get gritty with the best of them. Indeed, Tony Stark's struggles have included alcoholism, bankruptcy and even homelessness — themes he'd likely tackle in sequels.

"The alcoholism doesn't come into play until later on in the story of Iron Man," he said. "[The comic] started off in the '60s, where it was about him as a successful manufacturer who developed this suit. Then, later, it spins off into that story about him fighting against himself. I think we're going to lay the groundwork for it, but the first one's going to explore him taking on this alter ego of Iron Man, and developing the suit, and what happens politically within the Stark Corporation."

Mentioning an eventual "Iron Man 2," Favreau said that actor playing Tony Stark for his franchise is unlikely to be a major star (Tom Cruise was briefly attached to the role years ago). Instead, the director hopes to announce his discovery of a relative unknown from the Brandon Routh ("Superman Returns") mold later this year.

"What's nice is that those movies don't require an expensive star; Iron Man's the star, the superhero is the star," the director insisted. "The success of 'X-Men' and 'Spider-Man' without being star-driven pieces reassures [executives] that the film does have an upside commercially."

"I don't know that a movie like 'Daredevil' did better for having Ben Affleck then 'Spider-Man' did having Tobey Maguire, who was a relative unknown at the time," Favreau said, citing the Man With No Fear dud that he co-starred in alongside Affleck. "It gives you a little bit of latitude, because there's a lot of money that goes into getting that face on the poster."

Instead, the director (who reunites with friend Vince Vaughn in next month's "The Break Up") said he'd rather take those Affleck-level dollars and selectively distribute them on the look of his film. "I'm of a generation of director that came up understanding special effects," he insisted. "I don't throw the same amount of money [around] as some of the older generation directors who are just learning about it. There's a way to be scrappy, is what I'm trying to say. There's a way to get a lot for your money nowadays. There are a lot of talented people in that field, so I'm not concerned about it."

In the months to come, Jon Favreau will be putting those carefully managed Marvel dollars toward a solid script, some young stars and an "Iron Man" movie out to launch the next great superhero franchise. "It's really been a wonderful experience working on the script, and we're going to start talking about actors soon," Favreau added.

In the meantime, if you have any questions, concerns or comments about the details you read, this is one Hollywood star who is refreshingly eager to hear them. "I'm on MySpace," he offered with a broad smile. "Just search for 'Iron Man Movie Group' and I'm on there, answering questions."

— Larry Carroll, with additional reporting by Jeff Cornell

Here you go...

Ironfan72
05-24-2006, 08:50 AM
He is awesome, thats all I can say, he does listen to the fans, myself included, he's answered several of my questions, and I've loved everything he has said.
I completely agree that Iron Man doesn't require a huge star for the role, I realize there are group of people who feel Tom Cruise should star, and thats fine, but Marvel has done a great job of finding the right actors to play the parts, Hugh Jackman, Toby Maguire are excellent reasons why one doesn't need the biggest stars to make a great movie.

BT18
05-24-2006, 09:22 AM
I just take issue with the notion Tobey Magure was an unknown, "relative" or not. He was a clearly rising, high B-lister, pretty much on the cusp of A.

He had Wonder Boys, The Cider House Rules, Pleasantville, Deconstructing Harry, and The Ice Storm under his belt already. Which were mostly very widely seen (even if it was post-theatrical to varying degrees). Pleasantville and Ciderhouse were award-bait/fairly arty movies that together grossed about 100 million in US theaters.

DBM
05-24-2006, 09:31 AM
Sounds like he's got a great grip on what needs to be done. I can't wait for this.

dpm07
05-24-2006, 09:35 AM
Sounds like he's got a great grip on what needs to be done. I can't wait for this.

I agree. Good point.

Hiruu
05-24-2006, 09:38 AM
I just take issue with the notion Tobey Magure was an unknown, "relative" or not. He was a clearly rising, high B-lister, pretty much on the cusp of A.

He had Wonder Boys, The Cider House Rules, Pleasantville, Deconstructing Harry, and The Ice Storm under his belt already. Which were mostly very widely seen (even if it was post-theatrical to varying degrees). Pleasantville and Ciderhouse were award-bait/fairly arty movies that together grossed about 100 million in US theaters.

Yeah, Tobey was hardly an "unknown" at his time of selection, as you clearly pointed out, and while it allows some leverage on the first film, it makes for tough dealings on the follow-on films. All of a sudden, actors get back spasm and have other commitments..etc etc.

Now, wrt to Iron Man, I've been screaming for Tom Cruise for years, but i certianly understand if Favreau wants a fresh face, just so long as he's doing it for the right reasons. Comparing Daredevil to Spider-Man had less to do with leading role, then with the script. Given Tom Cruise's age, a Iron Man film with him would have to be more flashback then a true origin story, as with Spider-man. I'm keeping an open mind until I see some fruits of his labor.

deathshead2
05-24-2006, 09:39 AM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.

Hiruu
05-24-2006, 09:58 AM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.

Personal taste...he's one of my favorite actors, and the most interesting portion of Tony Stark's life was his tortured soul period, with him in the wheel chair, so I just compare that character to Cruise's character in born on 4th. Nothing more than my personal peference, so if you're not a Cruise fan, that okey dokey with me. also, when Iron Man was languishing, Cruise's addition would have jump started the project, but Marvel seems to be taking the lead on the project, so Cruise's addition isn't as important, but it would be nice. Like him or not, the guy is an international superstar and his movies have worldwide appeal and huge b.o. success, so marvel is going to need that level of success on their first in-house project to ensure a level of confidence with Wall Street. Now, do they HAVE to add Cruise, certianly not, but it wouldn't hurt. Anyway, it's just my fanboy's 2 cent.

deathshead2
05-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Personal taste...he's one of my favorite actors, and the most interesting portion of Tony Stark's life was his tortured soul period, with him in the wheel chair, so I just compare that character to Cruise's character in born on 4th. Nothing more than my personal peference, so if you're not a Cruise fan, that okey dokey with me. also, when Iron Man was languishing, Cruise's addition would have jump started the project, but Marvel seems to be taking the lead on the project, so Cruise's addition isn't as important, but it would be nice. Like him or not, the guy is an international superstar and his movies have worldwide appeal and huge b.o. success, so marvel is going to need that level of success on their first in-house project to ensure a level of confidence with Wall Street. Now, do they HAVE to add Cruise, certianly not, but it wouldn't hurt. Anyway, it's just my fanboy's 2 cent.I never liked crusie way to over the top for my tastes allways acts the same in every movie, I mean IM acts crazy alot put not all the time which is the way I would see Tom playing him crazy.Which I don't want.

ampersand
05-24-2006, 10:04 AM
I can't wait to see the grey armor on screen. That part made me very happy.

deathshead2
05-24-2006, 10:07 AM
I can't wait to see the grey armor on screen. That part made me very happy.I wonder if it wil be the huge armor or possible just a little bit smaller. Well can't wait for the first pic of the armor. Also I hope they make him a alcoholic so for IM2 we can possible get the demon in a bottle story.

ampersand
05-24-2006, 10:09 AM
I wonder if it wil be the huge armor or possible just a little bit smaller. Well can't wait for the first pic of the armor. Also I hope they make him a alcoholic so for IM2 we can possible get the demon in a bottle story.

I hope it's big and bulky. As close to the comic version as possible (I understand it won't be exact because the thing has to actually move)

I wouldn't mind seeing the Ultimate Iron Man armor on screen either.

deathshead2
05-24-2006, 10:11 AM
I hope it's big and bulky. As close to the comic version as possible (I understand it won't be exact because the thing has to actually move)

I wouldn't mind seeing the Ultimate Iron Man armor on screen either.I hope its large as well to show that its a prtotype. Also it would be funny to see the reaction from the people who fight him. Seeing this large crappy armor then all of a sudden BOOM there asses are handed to them.

Casius--J
05-24-2006, 10:13 AM
Sounds good man he really does want to make a great iron man movie, i just hope that it will be the case.

ToddIsDead
05-24-2006, 10:43 AM
I have high hopes for this movie at this point. It should be good.

War Lord
05-24-2006, 10:45 AM
Unknown must really be a fantastic actor, because he's connected with so many movies.

Ronny Shade
05-24-2006, 10:50 AM
I am morbidly concerned over this project. I think its going totally in the wrong direction. :(

ToddIsDead
05-24-2006, 10:58 AM
You're like the only one :o

Gladiator
05-24-2006, 11:08 AM
So far, this is sounding very promising.

And just so you all know, Jon Favreau is listed to be on Jimmy Kimmel Live tonight. Hopefully he'll have something to say about IM.

Gold Samurai
05-24-2006, 12:15 PM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.


It was a shock to me to open up the Ironman Extremis story line and find Tony stark to be drawn like a certain couch jumping star >.>

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/591/28nl1.jpg



Instead, the director hopes to announce his discovery of a relative unknown from the Brandon Routh ("Superman Returns") mold later this year.


Haha "the Brandon Routh Mold" makes it sound like he's a WB robot

"introducing the all new 2008 Brandon Routh with enhance Emo features"

Sava
05-24-2006, 12:20 PM
sounds great :u:

Philly Phanboy
05-24-2006, 12:23 PM
Great news.

Will they now target this for late next summer? It seems strange to make the movie at the start of 2007 and then release it in 2008.

ultimatefan
05-24-2006, 12:27 PM
I just take issue with the notion Tobey Magure was an unknown, "relative" or not. He was a clearly rising, high B-lister, pretty much on the cusp of A.

He had Wonder Boys, The Cider House Rules, Pleasantville, Deconstructing Harry, and The Ice Storm under his belt already. Which were mostly very widely seen (even if it was post-theatrical to varying degrees). Pleasantville and Ciderhouse were award-bait/fairly arty movies that together grossed about 100 million in US theaters.
I think Favreau just means that Maguire wasnt nearly as well-known as Affleck was when he did Daredevil. Affleck was in Armaggeddon and Sum Of All fears, to name a coupe.

Oh, and I resent the "award-bait" comment on Pleasantville, which to me is one of the most thoughtful and original movies of the past decade, in some aspects superior to The Truman Show.

ToddIsDead
05-24-2006, 12:30 PM
I really, really like Pleasantville. That was a damn fine film.

I SEE SPIDEY
05-24-2006, 12:53 PM
I liked Pleasantville also.

Maguire may not have been a complete unknown but he damn sure wasn't exactly known before SM.

tecnowraith
05-24-2006, 01:14 PM
All I hope at this point is that the John will change the villian and not be Tony's father in his storyline.

Hunter Rider
05-24-2006, 01:47 PM
I like a lot of what he has to say about the grey armour and the direction the story is going to go but i think casting an unknown is a mistake as Iron Man is not very well known,think DD and GR.
I think Cruise is a great actor with a good variety of range but he is to old to commit to this type of project and i also think the same of Depp,i'd have liked a good solid well known actor with some mainstream awareness

Any idea on the budget yet ?

Chris Wallace
05-24-2006, 02:17 PM
I just take issue with the notion Tobey Magure was an unknown, "relative" or not. He was a clearly rising, high B-lister, pretty much on the cusp of A.

He had Wonder Boys, The Cider House Rules, Pleasantville, Deconstructing Harry, and The Ice Storm under his belt already. Which were mostly very widely seen (even if it was post-theatrical to varying degrees). Pleasantville and Ciderhouse were award-bait/fairly arty movies that together grossed about 100 million in US theaters.
OK-He'd done other movies, yes, but none that had made him a household name. And you're talking about 2 movies which had the combined total gross of what "Spider-Man" made in 3 days. He wasn't a total unknown but he was by no means a major star. He was 26, & had nowhere near the level of recognizability that Tom Cruise had at his age. I still know people who refer to him as "The boy who played Spider-Man".:spidey:

Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 02:36 PM
Favreau really knows what he's doing, let alone knowing a lot about the character's history and how he's characterized within the comics. So far this adds to all the reports we've gotten about the progression of the film, and none of them have yet to be a disappointment.

The gray suit scenario, is a great way to start off. Considering it'll give the audience a proper introduction of the character, and why he's constantly building these iron like suits. Then after is when we'll see the modern look of the armor, which should appear nicely on screen. Not to mention the repulsor beams, I'm also hoping we'll get a lot of decent flight sequences of Iron Man soaring through the air.

I'm liking how Favreau really understands who the chracter is, that's always important for a director. Not to mention how he's already thinking ahead of himself with channeling the alcholism of Tony, in a possible sequel. As for the "unknown" part of his interview, if he feels like it's someone who can portray the character well enough, then I'll give it a chance. Even though there are plenty of actors out there, who could bring justice to this role. So far, everything about this film is off to a great start.

Also, it seems like we'll be getting both this film and the Batman sequel come 2008...

bulok
05-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Ironman battle scenes will rock. Its going to be just like a mech movie :D

3dman27
05-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Here you go...
thanks

BT18
05-24-2006, 03:00 PM
OK-He'd done other movies, yes, but none that had made him a household name. And you're talking about 2 movies which had the combined total gross of what "Spider-Man" made in 3 days. He wasn't a total unknown but he was by no means a major star. He was 26, & had nowhere near the level of recognizability that Tom Cruise had at his age. I still know people who refer to him as "The boy who played Spider-Man".:spidey:

He either was or wasn't a "relative unknown", and I articulated pretty clearly that he wasn't.

Trying to argue he was because he "had nowhere near the level of recognizability that Tom Cruise had at his age" is like saying Napoleon was a relative historical footnote because he had nowhere near the level of known lands conquored at his age compared to Alexander the Great. Tom Cruise is the biggest, highest grossing movie star in the world, not the median known movie actor.

Cinemaman
05-24-2006, 03:11 PM
Everything looks good for me :up:, besides this old gray suit :down:

Chris Wallace
05-24-2006, 03:17 PM
I really, really like Pleasantville. That was a damn fine film.
I enjoyed it but I didn't get it.

Chris Wallace
05-24-2006, 03:21 PM
He either was or wasn't a "relative unknown", and I articulated pretty clearly that he wasn't.

Trying to argue he was because he "had nowhere near the level of recognizability that Tom Cruise had at his age" is like saying Napoleon was a relative historical footnote because he had nowhere near the level of known lands conquored at his age compared to Alexander the Great. Tom Cruise is the biggest, highest grossing movie star in the world, not the median known movie actor.
I could not find a single person who knew who Tobey was before "Spider-Man" came out. When I first learned he'd gotten the role I had to make an effort to put a face to the name. Not that many people saw "Cider House", "Wonder Boys" or "Ice Storm". These may have been successful in their own right but they weren't exactly blockbusters.

Chris Wallace
05-24-2006, 03:22 PM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.
Because they don't read newspapers.

Mr. Thing
05-24-2006, 03:29 PM
Lovin' this. I really love the way this film is going.

Sava
05-24-2006, 03:37 PM
I like a lot of what he has to say about the grey armour and the direction the story is going to go but i think casting an unknown is a mistake as Iron Man is not very well known,think DD and GR.
I think Cruise is a great actor with a good variety of range but he is to old to commit to this type of project and i also think the same of Depp,i'd have liked a good solid well known actor with some mainstream awareness

Any idea on the budget yet ?
as always, i agree with you %100. Maybe Mr Cavisal (that guy who was in passion of the christ) would be a good match... or Collin Farrell maybe?

Budget will be up there with Hulk and Spidey IMO. Marvel have to know that IM done the right way would be a gold mine for them.

GothicPowerMix1
05-24-2006, 03:42 PM
I like the fact that this Director is willing to talk to the Fans through myspace & hear & listen to their suggestions & ideas. This Movie already sounds promising. He made a myspace page just to be able to talk to the fans & let them share their ideas with him. I like this guy. I will be following this Movie with great interest

Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 04:02 PM
as always, i agree with you %100. Maybe Mr Cavisal (that guy who was in passion of the christ) would be a good match... or Collin Farrell maybe?

Budget will be up there with Hulk and Spidey IMO. Marvel have to know that IM done the right way would be a gold mine for them.

Caviezel would be a better choice. He was great in The Count of Monte Cristo, and even the character he played, Edmond Dantes/The Count, had a slight resemblence to that of Tony Stark. Not to mention the character was wealthy.

CAGE
05-24-2006, 04:13 PM
Caviezel would be a better choice. He was great in The Count of Monte Cristo, and even the character he played, Edmond Dantes/The Count, had a slight resemblence to that of Tony Stark. Not to mention the character was wealthy.

As always and again, I agree with you Batman. BTW yo, thanks for the help with that Jean Grey pic I was looking for. :up:


And..........SWEET CHRISTMAS!!! This news is awesome, and the film is so going to kick loads of ass. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

CAGE
05-24-2006, 04:14 PM
I like the fact that this Director is willing to talk to the Fans through myspace & hear & listen to their suggestions & ideas. This Movie already sounds promising. He made a myspace page just to be able to talk to the fans & let them share their ideas with him. I like this guy. I will be following this Movie with great interest

Very well said, GothicPM. http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif:up:

GoldGoblin
05-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Sounds cool.

RedIsNotBlue
05-24-2006, 06:20 PM
Ehhh. I love everything I am hearing but I dunno about the unknown starring part. It works with Routh because Superman is a character everyone knows. I think Iron Man should be a name actor.

TheVileOne
05-24-2006, 07:27 PM
I'm excited and it sounds good.

I just hope we don't end up with another X-men 3, Hulk, or Daredevil.

Warhammer
05-24-2006, 07:51 PM
Sounds neato to me.

Ironfan72
05-24-2006, 08:30 PM
All I hope at this point is that the John will change the villian and not be Tony's father in his storyline.

Thats not a problem, Jon as all ready addressed this on his myspace Iron Man fourm, saying that the father vs. son theme was in the old thrown out script and they are going with a Technological Villian. No word on who that will be as yet, but, it will be from Iron Man's rogue gallery.

deathshead2
05-24-2006, 08:31 PM
I wonder who the bad guy could be.

TheVileOne
05-24-2006, 08:45 PM
Not sure. Thing is, Iron Man's best villain, and his arch-nemesis is The Mandarin. And well, we aren't going to see the Mandarin most likely.

Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 09:25 PM
Considering Mandarin doesn't seem like a favorite too Favreau, even though I'll agree with TheVileOne on the history both characters have with one another. He really is one of his best foes, perhaps if not in the this film, then a possible sequel should be where he debuts.

Crimson Dynamo
Titanium Man
Justin Hammer
Madame Masque

Those four are villains I could see Jon choosing, anyone but too have Stark face his own father. Madame Masque could be a type of love interest, and doesn't find out later in the film that she operates at night with a Mafia like organization. Or Justin Hammer could be Stark's industrialist rival, who like in the comics, creates a device which enables him to control Iron Man's armor. Both Titanium Man and Crimson Dynamo could be villains which are created to go up against Iron Man as well.

Sentinel X
05-24-2006, 09:57 PM
Awsome!:up:...what is the myspace where you can ask questions?

Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 10:07 PM
Awsome!:up:...what is the myspace where you can ask questions?

Here you go. (http://groups.myspace.com/ironmanmovie)

Hunter Rider
05-24-2006, 10:10 PM
Considering Mandarin doesn't seem like a favorite too Favreau, even though I'll agree with TheVileOne on the history both characters have with one another. He really is one of his best foes, perhaps if not in the this film, then a possible sequel should be where he debuts.

Crimson Dynamo
Titanium Man
Justin Hammer
Madame Masque

Those four are villains I could see Jon choosing, anyone but too have Stark face his own father. Madame Masque could be a type of love interest, and doesn't find out later in the film that she operates at night with a Mafia like organization. Or Justin Hammer could be Stark's industrialist rival, who like in the comics, creates a device which enables him to control Iron Man's armor. Both Titanium Man and Crimson Dynamo could be villains which are created to go up against Iron Man as well.

Didn't Fav say in his last interview that he wanted a tech heavy villain for the movie ?

Sentinel X
05-24-2006, 10:18 PM
Here you go. (http://groups.myspace.com/ironmanmovie)Merci :)

Lone Wolf
05-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Didn't Fav say in his last interview that he wanted a tech heavy villain for the movie ?

He did. Which means either Titanium Man or Crimson Dynamo would make good candidates, if of course that's who he has in mind. Or, he's probably considering creating his own villain for the film. Unless he does it right, I don't think it's necessary. Iron Man's rouges could be well on screen, again if it's done correctly. Though with everything he's said and has planned so far, I don't think the benefit of the doubt is that high.

Iron Man™
05-24-2006, 10:41 PM
He did. Which means either Titanium Man or Crimson Dynamo would make good candidates, if of course that's who he has in mind. Or, he's probably considering creating his own villain for the film. Unless he does it right, I don't think it's necessary. Iron Man's rouges could be well on screen, again if it's done correctly. Though with everything he's said and has planned so far, I don't think the benefit of the doubt is that high.

What do you think?

Well I can't speak for hunter rider, but I for one think it's a great idea to feature Crimson Dynamo, Bats. :) Can any of you imagine how cool it'd be if the two fought in the air? :eek:

This of course is FANTASTIC news, JF is really the man for this job and I don't think anyone else would've been better. :D This film is going to so kick all kinds of ass, Marvel won't even know what's coming.

*does happy dance.*

YJ1
05-25-2006, 12:01 AM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.

Tom Cruise as Ironman would be a COLOSSOL mistake. Not only does he bring unnecessary baggage but he'd want too much creative control as well as a % of the box office. Just say NO THANKS to that loon.

The only problem I have with that original article was the fact that the writer referred to the Daredevil movie as a dud. DD was a huge financial success as well as a quality action/adventure.

I vote for an altered Crimson Dynamo for the villain. Just the name "Titanium" Man fighting "Iron" Man sounds too childish.

RedIsNotBlue
05-25-2006, 12:30 AM
Tom Cruise as Ironman would be a COLOSSOL mistake. Not only does he bring unnecessary baggage but he'd want too much creative control as well as a % of the box office. Just say NO THANKS to that loon.

The only problem I have with that original article was the fact that the writer referred to the Daredevil movie as a dud. DD was a huge financial success as well as a quality action/adventure.

I vote for an altered Crimson Dynamo for the villain. Just the name "Titanium" Man fighting "Iron" Man sounds too childish.

Like I said in another thread just call Titanium Man the Titanium model and the same with Crimson Dynamo. And make it so its stolen technology and the thief is Justin Hammer.

3dman27
05-25-2006, 09:09 AM
Tom Cruise as Ironman would be a COLOSSOL mistake. Not only does he bring unnecessary baggage but he'd want too much creative control as well as a % of the box office. Just say NO THANKS to that loon.

The only problem I have with that original article was the fact that the writer referred to the Daredevil movie as a dud. DD was a huge financial success as well as a quality action/adventure.

I vote for an altered Crimson Dynamo for the villain. Just the name "Titanium" Man fighting "Iron" Man sounds too childish.i agree with you on this

Ironman24
05-25-2006, 09:16 AM
Its great news, apparently, Jon Favreau was on Jim Kennel last night and he talked about the movie as well as the showing the drawing his kid drew, I didn't see it, wish I had.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 09:36 AM
I still can't see why people want Tom to be ironman I just can't see it.
um...how about because he has experience playing that kind of character, he has high box office draw, he's a good actor, and his performances are frequently if not usually kickass?

TheVileOne
05-25-2006, 11:33 AM
Personally, this is a role I can accept Tom Cruise playing. Baggage? Baggage is a good thing for Tony Stark, because he's always been a character with a lot of personal and emotional baggage.

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 12:01 PM
A message to people who are still voting Tom Cruise for Iron Man: Watch more movies.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 12:21 PM
A message to people who are still voting Tom Cruise for Iron Man: Watch more movies.
movies like Vanilla Sky? How about Mission: Impossible 3? War of the Worlds?

Sava
05-25-2006, 12:35 PM
A message to people who are still voting Tom Cruise for Iron Man: Watch more movies.
i think you should watch more movies, like Born on the fouth of July, Collateral, MI 1&3, Vanilla Sky, Magnolia, Jerry Maguire, WOTW and so on

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 12:43 PM
people who are anti-Cruise need to watch more MOVIES and less OPRAH

ToddIsDead
05-25-2006, 12:45 PM
people who are anti-Cruise need to watch more MOVIES and less OPRAH
Definitely. He's really quite a good actor.

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 12:48 PM
There are alternatives. Realistic alternatives. Favreau already said he won't hired a guy that would eat his FX-laden budget. That alone should shatter your former dream and make you think of other potential actors.

Oh, and MI:3 is not the summer movie. Want a summer movie? Try X-Men 3. It's better than the sappy, it's supposed to be romantic but ultimately pointless movie.

Son Of Logan
05-25-2006, 12:48 PM
Risky Business, The Last Samurai :up:

ToddIsDead
05-25-2006, 12:49 PM
The Last Samuri was awesome.

Sava
05-25-2006, 12:50 PM
There are alternatives. Realistic alternatives. Favreau already said he won't hired a guy that would eat his FX-laden budget. That alone should shatter your former dream and make you think of other potential actors.

Oh, and MI:3 is not the summer movie. Want a summer movie? Try X-Men 3. It's better than the sappy, it's supposed to be romantic but ultimately pointless movie.
Cruise also produces his movies, he would actually add more money

Son Of Logan
05-25-2006, 12:53 PM
The Last Samuri was awesome.

Wantanabe and Cruise were both awesome.

I don't understand people's anger with Tom Cruise. He's just another Hollywood wacko, who the fans need to seperate his excellent acting from his akward personal life.

I always thought Cruise would make a great Tony Stark. Look at his roles in Born on the 4th of July and The Last Samurai. But I agree that his price would eat up Favreau's FX budget. We'll be better off with a relative unknown, but up-and-comer.

Hunter Rider
05-25-2006, 12:53 PM
Oh, and MI:3 is not the summer movie. Want a summer movie? Try X-Men 3. It's better than the sappy, it's supposed to be romantic but ultimately pointless movie.

That would be an opinion not a fact

The whole Cruise debate is pointless at this juncture b/c Favreau is going for an unknown

Sava
05-25-2006, 12:55 PM
That would be an opinion not a fact

The whole Cruise debate is pointless at this juncture b/c Favreau is going for an unknown
you got a bigger version of your avy?

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 12:59 PM
Cruise also produces his movies, he would actually add more money

Favreau is the boss, not Cruise.

Sava
05-25-2006, 12:59 PM
Favreau is the boss, not Cruise.
actually, Marvel is the boss

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 01:01 PM
That would be an opinion not a fact



Opinion, yes. It would become clearer if you already watch both movies.

3dman27
05-25-2006, 01:01 PM
good point sava

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 01:02 PM
actually, Marvel is the boss

Favreau is the boss. Marvel is the overseer. Cruise is nobody (in IM project, of course).

Hunter Rider
05-25-2006, 01:02 PM
Opinion, yes. It would become clearer if you already watch both movies.

Not nessicarily,maybe i'll be one of the many who saw X3 and hated it,i won't know until tomorrow

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 01:05 PM
Not nessicarily,maybe i'll be one of the many who saw X3 and hated it,i won't know until tomorrow

If you have predefined opinion of hating it then you'd hate it.

Hunter Rider
05-25-2006, 01:07 PM
If you have predefined opinion of hating it then you'd hate it.

I don't have a predefined opinion on it either way but your claim was that i would think it was better purely because you did,i was saying i may or may not like it,there is no certainty

Flash Fearless
05-25-2006, 01:28 PM
Favreau was on Jimmy Kimmel last night. They talked about Iron Man a little at the end.

Jimmy Kimmel had a picture of the gray Iron Man suit, the red and yellow suit from the sixties, and the current suit. Favreau showed the sketch that his four year old son drew.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 01:30 PM
I wonder how they're gonna do the origin

3dman27
05-25-2006, 01:41 PM
I wonder how they're gonna do the origin
maybe they will have tony promoting his weapons company to the feds/military for use in the war on terrorisim and events with some updating will happen ala the classic origin

RedIsNotBlue
05-25-2006, 01:59 PM
One of the good things Cruise would bring along with him if he were cast would be a pretty good guarantee that the movie would at least break 100 mill domestically.

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 02:08 PM
One of the good things Cruise would bring along with him if he were cast would be a pretty good guarantee that the movie would at least break 100 mill domestically.

But he won't be cast. And Iron Man would break 100 million in the US.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 02:18 PM
maybe they will have tony promoting his weapons company to the feds/military for use in the war on terrorisim and events with some updating will happen ala the classic origin
I'll never forgive them if they leave any of this stuff out:
1) Heart condition
2) The suit is what keeps him alive
3) He's a prisoner and is forced to build a weapon for the enemy

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 02:25 PM
I'll never forgive them if they leave any of this stuff out:
1) Heart condition
2) The suit is what keeps him alive
3) He's a prisoner and is forced to build a weapon for the enemy


I dont see the last one happening.

James"007"Bond
05-25-2006, 02:27 PM
But he won't be cast. And Iron Man would break 100 million in the US.

Screw that. Comic book movies should be lucky that they're able to go beyond breaking even whilst maintaining a high degree of respect and reference to the source material, which btw is good enough to adapt a screen play.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 02:42 PM
I dont see the last one happening.
That's the least important....but I still want it

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 02:42 PM
That's the least important....but I still want it


Well i wanted Rachel McAdams as Sue Storm doesnt mean ****.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 02:55 PM
Well i wanted Rachel McAdams as Sue Storm doesnt mean ****.
lol

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:17 PM
Favreau is the boss. Marvel is the overseer. Cruise is nobody (in IM project, of course).
umm..no

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 03:24 PM
umm..no

No wonder your post count is that many. :)

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 03:24 PM
You know who would be a good Tony? Eric Bana.

I know he's Hulk and I know he'd be a better Superman, but still...

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:26 PM
No wonder your post count is that many. :)
it should be more :(...

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:26 PM
You know who would be a good Tony? Eric Bana.

I know he's Hulk and I know he'd be a better Superman, but still...
hell no...we still need him for Hulk 2...:(.... if thats ever happening

RedIsNotBlue
05-25-2006, 03:27 PM
You know who would be a good Tony? Eric Bana.

I know he's Hulk and I know he'd be a better Superman, but still...

Eric Bana should play every Marvel and DC character. Along with Jude Law of course. Him and Law should have been the ****ing X-Men AND the Sentinels. :o

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:29 PM
the guy turned down i think the role of Superman when Wolfgang petterson was going to do Supes vs Bats ...shame

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 03:32 PM
the guy turned down i think the role of Superman when Wolfgang petterson was going to do Supes vs Bats ...shame


Actually, when you think about it, he was better off.:o

RedIsNotBlue
05-25-2006, 03:33 PM
I dunno about Bana for Supes in all honesty. Wouldn't it be too weird for an Australian playing a superhero who stands for truth, justice, and the AMERICAN way??

chiefchirpa
05-25-2006, 03:34 PM
hell no...we still need him for Hulk 2...:(.... if thats ever happening

He's Banner alright.

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:35 PM
Actually, when you think about it, he was better off.:o
better off as in that movie would have sucked or better off as in he would have been a miss cast as supes?

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 03:36 PM
better off as in that movie would have sucked or better off as in he would have been a miss cast as supes?


The former.

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:36 PM
I dunno about Bana for Supes in all honesty. Wouldn't it be too weird for an Australian playing a superhero who stands for truth, justice, and the AMERICAN way??
who the hell cares, as long as he looks like supes, act like supes and is supes in the big screen, thats all that matters

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:37 PM
The former.
was there some king of a leaked script?

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:38 PM
He's Banner alright.
he damn well is, he actually named Bana too

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 03:38 PM
was there some king of a leaked script?


Nope, but its Wolfgang Petersen.:o

Lone Wolf
05-25-2006, 03:39 PM
Well i wanted Rachel McAdams as Sue Storm doesnt mean ****.

For the Iron Man film though, if the character is used, McAdams would be a decent choice for Stark's secretary, Pepper Potts.

Darthphere
05-25-2006, 03:41 PM
For the Iron Man film though, if the character is used, McAdams would be a decent choice for Stark's secretary, Pepper Potts.


Yeah, I read Wizard too.

Sava
05-25-2006, 03:43 PM
Nope, but its Wolfgang Petersen.:o
he's not that bad, just Posiedon sucked, thats all. Tory was good and all his other film were good too. IMO anyway

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 03:44 PM
I dunno about Bana for Supes in all honesty. Wouldn't it be too weird for an Australian playing a superhero who stands for truth, justice, and the AMERICAN way??
Christian Bale is Welsh and Batman is just as American.

Bana's got terrific accent control. He can play an American just fine.

Lone Wolf
05-25-2006, 03:46 PM
Like I said in another thread just call Titanium Man the Titanium model and the same with Crimson Dynamo. And make it so its stolen technology and the thief is Justin Hammer.

I could see this idea working out well...Except I'd only include Crimson Dynamo, and Hammer.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 03:47 PM
For the Iron Man film though, if the character is used, McAdams would be a decent choice for Stark's secretary, Pepper Potts.
There are better choices, IMO.

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 03:48 PM
Nope, but its Wolfgang Petersen.:o
Is it just me, or does Wolfgang Peterson suck?

Lone Wolf
05-25-2006, 03:48 PM
There are better choices, IMO.

So do I, who did you have in mind though?

bperlow
05-25-2006, 04:07 PM
I would go for alyssa hannigan for pepper potts, because you could believe she would have a crush on Tony. Pepper shouldnt be hot , she should be cute, and more average. I think her intelligence and intgrity is what attracts Tony to her, but his health(lack theroff) prevents him from doing so. I think a first movie shouldnt have romance, but romantic tension.

Rachael McAddams would begreat too. But I think shes too hot to be pepper. Now she could be Awesome as bethany...

Ronny Shade
05-25-2006, 04:13 PM
Alyson Hannigan is not a bad idea

I'm still thinking though.

How about Shannon Lucio
http://www.theocfansite.com/site-images/Cast-Images/shannon.jpg


But I still feel like there's someone better out there I'm not thinking of.

Spider - Man
05-25-2006, 05:11 PM
who the hell cares, as long as he looks like supes, act like supes and is supes in the big screen, thats all that matters


Well, Brandon Routh IS Supes in the bigscreen, so I guessthat's all that all that matters! :)

Spider - Man
05-25-2006, 05:16 PM
Screw that. Comic book movies should be lucky that they're able to go beyond breaking even whilst maintaining a high degree of respect and reference to the source material, which btw is good enough to adapt a screen play.

Then I guess Marvel's been EXTREMELY lucky b/c with the exception of Elektra, ALL of the Marvel movies have a)better-than-broken-even, b)broken $100 mil. And most of them (IMO) have done it while maintaining a high degree of respect to the original material.

Luthor Kain
05-26-2006, 10:29 PM
Iron Man filming in January - this is good news indeed!
I can't wait to heard who'll be casted as Iron Man.

deathshead2
05-26-2006, 10:32 PM
I hope we will here some cast by at least Aug-sept.

Gambit_Fan
05-27-2006, 05:26 PM
you people should go on myspace groups http://groups.myspace.com/ironmanmovie
its set up by Jon himself and he is answerin all questions without givin too much away well worth checkin out

Ironfan72
05-27-2006, 08:07 PM
Thanks, we knew about weeks ago, I'm already a member and have asked many questions and have had several questions answered, great place to chat with other Iron Man fans.

Iron Man™
05-28-2006, 02:28 PM
I'm really wondering why Favs has a picture of Crimson Dynamo in his gallery....Do you guys think it means something?

Ironfan72
05-28-2006, 06:24 PM
maybe, he also had Titanium Man posted on his group.