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Carp Man
06-09-2006, 05:11 PM
I don't buy that. There's never been a demonstrable connection between box office returns and high gas prices or any other economic hardship.
I do. It's a reality that will become more and more of a reality as time and high energy prices continue. And I'm not talking about the millionairs. I'm talking about the guy making 5 to 10 an hour, with a couple of kids. The majority of the movie goers.
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 05:13 PM
I do. It's a reality that will become more and more of a reality as time and high energy prices continue.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
oneteen
06-09-2006, 05:14 PM
I wonder how many times each of the cast went to see it....if at all hehe.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 05:15 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
You must be one of the millionairs. :p
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 05:17 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
I agree GL. It has little to do with gas prices, etc. more the quality of the work. Even more so with how the audience responds to the movie. After Titanic came out, I guess movies were "doomed" because gas prices were increasing. But then, how do you explain "Spider-man"? "Shrek 2"? "Star Wars 1,2, and 3"? If a movie is good, people will go and see it, no question. Piracy is more of an issue, but it's still been proven with the preceeding examples: make a quality movie the public wants to see, and they will see it. No need for excuses.
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 05:17 PM
You must be one of the millionairs. :p
I wish. :cool:
Forever is over
06-09-2006, 05:40 PM
I agree. Though I think rising gas prices is a decent point, I dont really see it hurting a movies box office. Gas prises were high last summer as well with seemingly no end in sight but Episode 3 still did huge numbers. Why? Because many saw it as a return to form for star wars and really liked it a lot. I know I did. But I think The Last stand is under-performing because their is a definate split in who loves it and who hates it. Gas prices are moot to me as I live right down the street from my local theater and can just walk there. I guess I am lucky in that respect. The point is I can see The last Stand anytime I want but once was quite enough for me and I think a lot of people feel the same way and not because of gas prices.
Lightning Strykez!
06-09-2006, 06:02 PM
I think if X3:TLS had been a more faithful rendention of the Phoenix Saga the sales would be significantly higher. The film has gotten a warm reception generally, but it has certainly torqued off a substantial chunk of its fanbase. Those are the folks who are going to make repeat viewings...piss them off and you're going to feel it in the pocket $$$wise.
Not sure if FOX or Marvel expected this to top X2's box office or not, but with all things considered I'm doubting it will. They would've done better to get that storyline tighter...it's one of those cherished sagas you just don't "adapt" recklessly.
kakashi
06-09-2006, 06:04 PM
I think what 'hurting'the box office performance of X3 is the fact that people may be a bit tired of comic book adaptations, no matter how good it is. X 2 came out at the height of comic book adaptations.
Apparently there's such thing as too much of a good thing.
danoyse
06-09-2006, 06:05 PM
That's true--every fanboy I know freaked when the Phoenix appeared at the end of X2, because it just looked like such a huge movie was coming.
I liked X3 fine, but I can see why it disappointed a lot of the fanbase.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 06:18 PM
I think what 'hurting'the box office performance of X3 is the fact that people may be a bit tired of comic book adaptations, no matter how good it is. X 2 came out at the height of comic book adaptations.
Apparently there's such thing as too much of a good thing.
I think there's too much of a BAD thing...not X3, but the other recent lackluster comic book movies. But I really doubt this impacted X3's business much...sure, had it been the first comic book movie out, there would be a certain curiosity factor, but think, when Spider-Man 3 comes out next year, it will do huge business regardless. Why? Because the first two films set up a standard of quality and a pedigree. Same with the X-men films: the first two brought people in on opening weekend, but X3...didn't keep them in the theatres.
kakashi
06-09-2006, 07:03 PM
I think there's too much of a BAD thing...not X3, but the other recent lackluster comic book movies. But I really doubt this impacted X3's business much...sure, had it been the first comic book movie out, there would be a certain curiosity factor, but think, when Spider-Man 3 comes out next year, it will do huge business regardless. Why? Because the first two films set up a standard of quality and a pedigree. Same with the X-men films: the first two brought people in on opening weekend, but X3...didn't keep them in the theatres.
I think the success of comicbook movies has peaked with Spider-man 2.With two or three comicbook movies every year,people will get tired of it eventually. Even if the adaptations
looks promising, with great director,great cast and whatnot.
They'll still be succesfull. Just not as succesfull as they were couple of years ago.
WorthyStevens
06-09-2006, 07:17 PM
I think there's too much of a BAD thing...not X3, but the other recent lackluster comic book movies. But I really doubt this impacted X3's business much...sure, had it been the first comic book movie out, there would be a certain curiosity factor, but think, when Spider-Man 3 comes out next year, it will do huge business regardless. Why? Because the first two films set up a standard of quality and a pedigree. Same with the X-men films: the first two brought people in on opening weekend, but X3...didn't keep them in the theatres.
X2 didn't keep them in theatres either though. It hard hard falls weekend after weekend.
Advanced Dark
06-09-2006, 07:19 PM
^ Comic books and their characters are not a fad and people will never get tired of them as long as they don't rehash and they only update/restart them when neccessary and technology allows them to make it 100% better. The box office numbers will decline not due to less popularity with the characters but more choices for people to do. As the video game systems get better and better, and DVD's are released faster and faster until they're available for download at the same time they open in theatres. You're also going to notice movies making almost all of there money in 2 weeks as competition gets fierce, megaplexes pop up everywhere so they're plenty of screens and less sold out shows, etc...There's just more ways to entertain oneself now as compared to when Batman first came out, Superman, and even Spider-Man. The films really have to be special to make over 250 million at the box office and have to demand viewing on a big screen or have material that people cannot wait to see. Ticket sales will never be like the 70's when a major blockbuster came out. There's just too many other things to do and many more studios releasing films to compete with for that to happen.
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 07:20 PM
I think the success of comicbook movies has peaked with Spider-man 2.With two or three comicbook movies every year,people will get tired of it eventually. Even if the adaptations
looks promising, with great director,great cast and whatnot.
They'll still be succesfull. Just not as succesfull as they were couple of years ago.
I disagree. I think Spider-Man 3 is going to be huge - I think it'll outgross Spider-Man 2, and maybe even Spider-Man. It really is up to each franchise to maintain a high level of quality, and - crucially, in my opinion - to provide variation in storytelling. If most superhero films are too alike - in visuals and storytelling - then the public could tire of them.
liamoversion2
06-09-2006, 07:25 PM
I think if X3:TLS had been a more faithful rendention of the Phoenix Saga the sales would be significantly higher. The film has gotten a warm reception generally, but it has certainly torqued off a substantial chunk of its fanbase. Those are the folks who are going to make repeat viewings...piss them off and you're going to feel it in the pocket $$$wise.
Not sure if FOX or Marvel expected this to top X2's box office or not, but with all things considered I'm doubting it will. They would've done better to get that storyline tighter...it's one of those cherished sagas you just don't "adapt" recklessly.
Yes exactly. We're the ones paying for these movies at the end of the day. Not only did they not stay faithful to the essence of the Phoenix Saga, but what they chose to do they did pretty badly also. And if anyone thinks that the fanbase is split evenly, you should check out the user comments / reviews on imdb.com... an unprecedented proportion of them are extremely negative.
People coming out of this movie aren't talking about the cure stuff... they're talking about Jean Grey. Same as it was with X2. All people wanted to talk about was Nightcrawler's opening sequence and Jean Grey's death scene. Even the mainstream audience has caught on to how interesting she is.
The fans know they got screwed too... the final scene in X2 promised Phoenix in a big way. Quite simply that is not what we got... instead we got the conservative finger: 'sorry, we're not interested in staying true to your story because we have dollar signs in our eyes'. All this talk about not being able to have Phoenix to a large extent in the movie is complete bull. They just weren't willing to put in the time, effort and the risk. There wasn't even any real risk involved. X3 would have made a s**tload anyway. And with a movie about Phoenix, probably would have made way more than it's currently making.
It's not the 'Wolverines' that are making money these days - it's Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. People want stories that are completely out there. Fox are just so damn conservative they can't see it.
WorthyStevens
06-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I think if X3:TLS had been a more faithful rendention of the Phoenix Saga the sales would be significantly higher. The film has gotten a warm reception generally, but it has certainly torqued off a substantial chunk of its fanbase. Those are the folks who are going to make repeat viewings...piss them off and you're going to feel it in the pocket $$$wise.
Us fans hold X2 in great regard, and had a great reception from fans. That didn't stop the movie from having no legs whatsoever.
And if anyone thinks that the fanbase is split evenly, you should check out the user comments / reviews on imdb.com... an unprecedented proportion of them are extremely negative.
The user comments at IMDB are just the same five people writing comments and voting under different screen names over and over again. If I had absolutely nothing better to do with my time, I'd counter with fifty of my own diversified yet positive comments. What's the point? The fanbase may be split but the general public loved X3.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 07:40 PM
I think if X3:TLS had been a more faithful rendention of the Phoenix Saga the sales would be significantly higher. The film has gotten a warm reception generally, but it has certainly torqued off a substantial chunk of its fanbase. Those are the folks who are going to make repeat viewings...piss them off and you're going to feel it in the pocket $$$wise.
Not sure if FOX or Marvel expected this to top X2's box office or not, but with all things considered I'm doubting it will. They would've done better to get that storyline tighter...it's one of those cherished sagas you just don't "adapt" recklessly.
It will top X2 domesticly, and worldwide. Only 29 million from domestic, and 81 million from their worldwide #'s.
liamoversion2
06-09-2006, 07:41 PM
The user comments at IMDB are just the same five people writing comments and voting under different screen names over and over again. If I had absolutely nothing better to do with my time, I'd counter with fifty of my own diversified yet positive comments. What's the point? The fanbase may be split but the general public loved X3.
I doubt that. A lot of them are members of imdbpro... a lot of them have multiple reviews up... there's also like 1500 of them... it's presumptuous of you to think that everyone is small minded enough to go and write 5 negative reviews instead of just the one! I can't imagine many people doing that at all... maybe Fox plants writing positive ones... but even that's a stretch.
you make a shaky argument dude!
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 07:43 PM
Us fans hold X2 in great regard, and had a great reception from fans. That didn't stop the movie from having no legs whatsoever.
Short legs come with the territory with some films. Genre films that play heavily to the 15-35 male demographic, and don't reach much beyond that, will often end up with multipliers of 2.5 to 3 times opening weekend, even when reviews and word of mouth are strong. But there's a difference between short legs that fall within respectable parameters, and legs that are really puny. If a film has a multiplier of less than 2.5 it likely indicates some weakness in the word of mouth.
liamoversion2
06-09-2006, 07:44 PM
If a film has a multiplier of less than 2.5 it likely indicates some weakness in the word of mouth.
What was X3's do you know?
danoyse
06-09-2006, 07:45 PM
=Advanced DarkThe box office numbers will decline not due to less popularity with the characters but more choices for people to do. As the video game systems get better and better, and DVD's are released faster and faster until they're available for download at the same time they open in theatres. You're also going to notice movies making almost all of there money in 2 weeks as competition gets fierce, megaplexes pop up everywhere so they're plenty of screens and less sold out shows, etc...There's just more ways to entertain oneself now as compared to when Batman first came out, Superman, and even Spider-Man.
That's absolutely true. When I was a kid, I waited 2 HOURS in line to see "Return of the Jedi" on opening day. The line wrapped around the block. People brought lawn chairs. I was 8, it was absolutely mind-boggling.
I saw that movie twice in theaters--it didn't come out on video until 3 years later.
Today? You can get tickets online weeks in advance. I don't remember the last time I had to worry about a sold-out show, because everything is on multiple screens. I can put the movie on my Netflix queue before it's even released. I used to see all movies multiple times, I rarely do that anymore because the DVD is out so soon.
They even film DVD features while they're filming the movie--it's like they're already working on the 2nd phase of the movie.
It's such a different animal now, you can't really compare success today to movies from even a few years ago because they're just marketed totally different.
I agree the hardcore fans got screwed on the Phoenix thing (I'm not as familar with the comics--but I waited 16 years for a Star Wars prequel and got Jar Jar, so I can relate enough). But then again, people I know who don't read the comics and probably aren't even aware of places like AICN and SHH enjoyed X3.
It's just not clear cut what measures a success anymore.
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 07:46 PM
What was X3's do you know?
2.51.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 07:47 PM
Yes exactly. We're the ones paying for these movies at the end of the day. Not only did they not stay faithful to the essence of the Phoenix Saga, but what they chose to do they did pretty badly also. And if anyone thinks that the fanbase is split evenly, you should check out the user comments / reviews on imdb.com... an unprecedented proportion of them are extremely negative.
People coming out of this movie aren't talking about the cure stuff... they're talking about Jean Grey. Same as it was with X2. All people wanted to talk about was Nightcrawler's opening sequence and Jean Grey's death scene. Even the mainstream audience has caught on to how interesting she is.
The fans know they got screwed too... the final scene in X2 promised Phoenix in a big way. Quite simply that is not what we got... instead we got the conservative finger: 'sorry, we're not interested in staying true to your story because we have dollar signs in our eyes'. All this talk about not being able to have Phoenix to a large extent in the movie is complete bull. They just weren't willing to put in the time, effort and the risk. There wasn't even any real risk involved. X3 would have made a s**tload anyway. And with a movie about Phoenix, probably would have made way more than it's currently making.
It's not the 'Wolverines' that are making money these days - it's Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. People want stories that are completely out there. Fox are just so damn conservative they can't see it.
I'm not as familar with X-Men, as I am With other Marvel charactors. FF, and Spiderman in particular. So I saw it at kind of an outsider, and I throughly enjoyed it. I do know something about the X-Men, but have not followed it as closly as other Marvel charactors. I found nothing wroung with it. The story line was good, the charactors we're good as always the spx we're out of sight. All in all a very well done, polished movie. Faithfull or not ? I don't know. But from a purly enjoyable experience, I enjoyed it imensly. I'm sure you can nit pick it to death, as many did with the FF movie.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 07:50 PM
Us fans hold X2 in great regard, and had a great reception from fans. That didn't stop the movie from having no legs whatsoever.
The first month is the most important time. Yes X2 had bad legs when you look at it this way:
Batman Begins - 4.2 (low opening)
Spider-man 2: 4.2
Spider-man: 3.5
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: 2.82
Fantastic Four - 2.76
Daredevil: 2.54
X2: 2.5
in a league of it's own:
Hulk - 2.12
But X2 also had to compete with the MATRIX RELOADED in it's third weekend...it dropped 57% that weekend, due to a direct demographic...wipeout basically. Are you trying to say that X2 would have had a similar drop if Matrix hadn't opened then? I know all the other films experienced competition as well, but please, find another film which competed with those films in such a huge way as well. Not to mention, the weekend after, Bruce Almighty opened. It was a much more competitve time then (for the demographic for sure), wouldn't you agree?
It's like opening Superman Returns THIS weekend, and when X3 drops, it'll have "bad legs" because of the competition.
danoyse
06-09-2006, 07:50 PM
2.51.
Whew, just made it! :p
I have yet to hear a really bad review on the movie from the non-fanboys I know who've seen it. I know that's hardly a tracker...but I remember what everyone thought of "Matrix Reloaded" a few years ago, and this hasn't been like that reaction at all.
Plus--I have a friend who was planning to finally see it this weekend, my sister just got back from her honeymoon, and they're planning to catch this weekend. And a few people I work with are still planning to see it.
To quote Monty Python: "I'm not dead yet!"
danoyse
06-09-2006, 07:56 PM
I'm not as familar with X-Men, as I am With other Marvel charactors. FF, and Spiderman in particular. So I saw it at kind of an outsider, and I throughly enjoyed it. I do know something about the X-Men, but have not followed it as closly as other Marvel charactors. I found nothing wroung with it. The story line was good, the charactors we're good as always the spx we're out of sight. All in all a very well done, polished movie. Faithfull or not ? I don't know. But from a purly enjoyable experience, I enjoyed it imensly. I'm sure you can nit pick it to death, as many did with the FF movie.
Exactly. My only X-Men knowledge before I saw the movie was the video game we had in the student center when I was in college. I'd never even seen the cartoon. But I loved the movie, and a friend at work who was a big X-Men fan proceeded to give my every character's biography, and I've since read a bunch of the comics.
But my primary knowledge of X-Men is the movies. And as far as that arc, X3 was a very satisfying sequel. A little too short, but still very enjoyable.
I'm really so used to the Superman III's and the terrible Batman sequels, and this isn't even in that category, thankfully.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 07:56 PM
Whew, just made it! :p
I have yet to hear a really bad review on the movie from the non-fanboys I know who've seen it. I know that's hardly a tracker...but I remember what everyone thought of "Matrix Reloaded" a few years ago, and this hasn't been like that reaction at all.
Plus--I have a friend who was planning to finally see it this weekend, my sister just got back from her honeymoon, and they're planning to catch this weekend. And a few people I work with are still planning to see it.
To quote Monty Python: "I'm not dead yet!"
True, people who aren't familiar with the X-men Universe at all thought it was a good film. They viewed it as the end of the trilogy, and it works well in that sense. However, anyone even slightly acquainted with the real stories, even those who watched the Saturday morning cartoons, knew something was up.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 07:57 PM
terrible Batman sequels
:eek: Have you seen Batman Returns or Begins??
And I agree, the movie worked well if you had no familiarity with the established stories or character arcs. It really ruined the film for me. :down
danoyse
06-09-2006, 07:59 PM
True, people who aren't familiar with the X-men Universe at all thought it was a good film. They viewed it as the end of the trilogy, and it works well in that sense. However, anyone even slightly acquainted with the real stories, even those who watched the Saturday morning cartoons, knew something was up.
A remember that article narrows posted yesterday--it mentioned that the comic fans only represent a fairly small fraction of the entire audience for the X-Men movies.
I definitely think there was a missed opportunity with the whole Phoenix thing, but I also don't think they made a crap movie, either.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 08:03 PM
Exactly. My only X-Men knowledge before I saw the movie was the video game we had in the student center when I was in college. I'd never even seen the cartoon. But I loved the movie, and a friend at work who was a big X-Men fan proceeded to give my every character's biography, and I've since read a bunch of the comics.
But my primary knowledge of X-Men is the movies. And as far as that arc, X3 was a very satisfying sequel. A little too short, but still very enjoyable.
I'm really so used to the Superman III's and the terrible Batman sequels, and this isn't even in that category, thankfully.
I agree. Head and heals better the Superman 3 and 4, and Batman and Robin. Every bit as good as Spiderman 1 and 2, and the FF. Better then X1 and 2. Allthough both were very good, I just enjoyed this one more.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 08:03 PM
A remember that article narrows posted yesterday--it mentioned that the comic fans only represent a fairly small fraction of the entire audience for the X-Men movies.
I definitely think there was a missed opportunity with the whole Phoenix thing, but I also don't think they made a crap movie, either.
Not at all, it wasn't a crap film. But the treatment of the characters we knew from the cartoons etc....was crap. Even the Phoenix episodes from the cartoon are more epic than the movie. No one is expecting a cosmic, intergalactic storyline...but couldn't they have made her a focus of the movie? Both the cure plot and the Phoenix plot felt incomplete...maybe only in the eyes of the fans.
But as someone else mentioned, the films aren't being made for fans because they are a small part of the audience...but I definitely think they have an influence.
danoyse
06-09-2006, 08:05 PM
:eek: Have you seen Batman Returns or Begins??
I saw Batman Returns at the 10pm show the night before opening day. Not only did my friends and I hate it, but everyone in the sold-out theater seemed to hate it as well.
Batman Begins, however, I thought was the best movie of 2005. Finally, it's being done right.
And I agree, the movie worked well if you had no familiarity with the established stories or character arcs. It really ruined the film for me. :down
And that was the missed opportunity with the fans. If they had made a sequel with any sort of crazy miscasting and suddenly put them all in the yellow spandex or something, they would have lost everyone else as well.
GL's Light
06-09-2006, 08:07 PM
I've only read a few X-Men comics, I'm more of a fan because of the movies. I thought the plot was just fine, but the film played a little choppy. It needed an extra 10-15 minutes to let the character moments breathe and to more smoothly introduce the new characters. It certainly wasn't a bad film, but it didn't quite live up to the quality Singer infused into the previous efforts. I give it 3 stars out of 5.
I think the word of mouth has been mixed - not uniformly bad, just mixed - and that's cut its legs just a little shorter than they could've been.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 08:08 PM
I saw Batman Returns at the 10pm show the night before opening day. Not only did my friends and I hate it, but everyone in the sold-out theater seemed to hate it as well.
Batman Begins, however, I thought was the best movie of 2005. Finally, it's being done right.
And that was the missed opportunity with the fans. If they had made a sequel with any sort of crazy miscasting and suddenly put them all in the yellow spandex or something, they would have lost everyone else as well.
Only good Batman movies were the 1st 2. Val Kilmer, and George Cloney we're jokes, and Arnold ? LOL. Only good Superman movies were the 1st 2.
crappymovie
06-09-2006, 08:08 PM
Batman Begins, however, I thought was the best movie of 2005. Finally, it's being done right.
Just curious to hear a non-fan's pespective: How would you compare Batman Begins and X3? X2? (wrong thread, but it should only take up one message.)
I think there's a consensus that we'll have to wait until tomorrow's Friday numbers to further assess X3's future...
danoyse
06-09-2006, 08:11 PM
Not at all, it wasn't a crap film. But the treatment of the characters we knew from the cartoons etc....was crap. Even the Phoenix episodes from the cartoon are more epic than the movie. No one is expecting a cosmic, intergalactic storyline...but couldn't they have made her a focus of the movie? Both the cure plot and the Phoenix plot felt incomplete...maybe only in the eyes of the fans.
See, and I recently caught a few episodes of the cartoon, and couldn't help laughing at how cheesy it was. I saw one where Xavier was in a 'lightsaber' fight with another character in space, and was just like "Oh, come on..." :rolleyes:
I know the stories are taken from the comics, and they're good stories, but the cartoon didn't always play out as well for someone who was introduced to X-Men through the movies.
But as someone else mentioned, the films aren't being made for fans because they are a small part of the audience...but I definitely think they have an influence.
They do. But I think there comes a point with the filmmakers when adapting these things where they realize they can't possibly make them all happy and have to concentrate on the movie they're making.
Carp Man
06-09-2006, 08:12 PM
I've only read a few X-Men comics, I'm more of a fan because of the movies. I thought the plot was just fine, but the film played a little choppy. It needed an extra 10-15 minutes to let the character moments breathe and to more smoothly introduce the new characters.
That's Fox. They did the same thing to FF. Cut the heart and soul, and gave a hightlight reel.
danoyse
06-09-2006, 08:12 PM
I've only read a few X-Men comics, I'm more of a fan because of the movies. I thought the plot was just fine, but the film played a little choppy. It needed an extra 10-15 minutes to let the character moments breathe and to more smoothly introduce the new characters. It certainly wasn't a bad film, but it didn't quite live up to the quality Singer infused into the previous efforts. I give it 3 stars out of 5.
I think the word of mouth has been mixed - not uniformly bad, just mixed - and that's cut its legs just a little shorter than they could've been.
That's exactly what I think as well. :up:
danoyse
06-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Just curious to hear a non-fan's pespective: How would you compare Batman Begins and X3? X2? (wrong thread, but it should only take up one message.)
I never really compared them at all. I was more familar with the Batman story when I saw Batman Begins. When I saw X1, I knew nothing at all. And it was a restart and not a sequel, and I was just happy it was finally being done right.
I think there's a popular opinion that it was X1 that really brought the comics movie genre back. And I know the fans weren't happy with a lot of the changes made for X1.
To me, the only thing they have in common is that there all in the same section of my DVD shelf--X1, X2, Spiderman, Spiderman 2, F4, Superman, Superman 2, and Batman Begins. They're all held up by a little wind-up Wolverine toy I found a Toys R Us. :)
Pickle-El
06-09-2006, 09:06 PM
Us fans hold X2 in great regard, and had a great reception from fans. That didn't stop the movie from having no legs whatsoever.
It killed in the DVD dept though, and was a HUGE reason for X3's substantial first week.....no denying that.
Pickle-El
06-09-2006, 09:08 PM
I'm not as familar with X-Men, as I am With other Marvel charactors. FF, and Spiderman in particular. So I saw it at kind of an outsider, and I throughly enjoyed it. I do know something about the X-Men, but have not followed it as closly as other Marvel charactors. I found nothing wroung with it. The story line was good, the charactors we're good as always the spx we're out of sight. All in all a very well done, polished movie. Faithfull or not ? I don't know. But from a purly enjoyable experience, I enjoyed it imensly. I'm sure you can nit pick it to death, as many did with the FF movie.
It this regard, Thing is right....I totally agree with him here. Let's face it, fanboys are wackos. We think the characters belong to 'us'.
Fanticon
06-10-2006, 04:23 AM
Went and saw X3 again tonight...thats 5, I saw it with a couple who had already seen it and just didn't have any interest in anything else...the girls wanted to see Cars but it was sold out...and...3 showings of X3 8:15 9:45 and 10:15 were sold out too...I was surprised...my screen, though this is a huge stadium seating theatre, was smaller but still packed to the front row and back...and...I counted over 15 people who all stayed to watch the scene after the credits...so even though its just one theatre here with shows still selling out...maybe it'll still have the third weekend projections we're hoping for if other theatres were experiencing the same kind of turn out.
Amm-arD
06-10-2006, 04:49 AM
and...I counted over 15 people who all stayed to watch the scene after the credits.
SCENE AFTER THE CREDITS?! sayyyy what?!?!?! Ive watched it but had no clue about this..what is it of?
pt_photo_inc
06-10-2006, 05:24 AM
Went and saw X3 again tonight...thats 5, I saw it with a couple who had already seen it and just didn't have any interest in anything else...the girls wanted to see Cars but it was sold out...and...3 showings of X3 8:15 9:45 and 10:15 were sold out too...I was surprised...my screen, though this is a huge stadium seating theatre, was smaller but still packed to the front row and back...and...I counted over 15 people who all stayed to watch the scene after the credits...so even though its just one theatre here with shows still selling out...maybe it'll still have the third weekend projections we're hoping for if other theatres were experiencing the same kind of turn out.
stop giving them money you A hole! HAHAHA JK! glad you are enjoying it
pt_photo_inc
06-10-2006, 05:25 AM
It this regard, Thing is right....I totally agree with him here. Let's face it, fanboys are wackos. We think the characters belong to 'us'.
truer words were almost never spoken!
but the movie sucks with huge holes in plots reguardless of fan or not
danoyse
06-10-2006, 08:54 AM
SCENE AFTER THE CREDITS?! sayyyy what?!?!?! Ive watched it but had no clue about this..what is it of?
See it again and find out! :p
When I saw it last weekend, it seemed a lot more people stayed after the credits than they did on opening weekend.
Angamb
06-10-2006, 09:13 AM
This weekend X3 will get $200 million and in a more new week will pass X2.
antariksh
06-10-2006, 09:29 AM
This weekend X3 will get $200 million and in a more new week will pass X2.
Actually i went to the theatre today yesterday night and asked my freind how is X3 doing and he said that attendance dropped 61% from last friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys i think we are in for a bigger drop this weekend too.
I am thinking around 12-14 million.
I was hoping for 15-17 million but what can we do???? It is performing like it is one of the worst comic book movies of all time.
FOX should be ashamed of themselves. There is no way i am going to support the spinoffs except maybe WOLVERINE and MAGNETO. But that is it.
Carp Man
06-10-2006, 09:31 AM
Went and saw X3 again tonight...thats 5, I saw it with a couple who had already seen it and just didn't have any interest in anything else...the girls wanted to see Cars but it was sold out...and...3 showings of X3 8:15 9:45 and 10:15 were sold out too...I was surprised...my screen, though this is a huge stadium seating theatre, was smaller but still packed to the front row and back...and...I counted over 15 people who all stayed to watch the scene after the credits...so even though its just one theatre here with shows still selling out...maybe it'll still have the third weekend projections we're hoping for if other theatres were experiencing the same kind of turn out.
Have to beat my 9 for FF.
antariksh
06-10-2006, 09:32 AM
Have to beat my 9 for FF.
LOL
Carp Man
06-10-2006, 09:39 AM
LOL
The manager at the local multiplex is a friend of mine. I pay once to get in and watch every showing. :) So I actually sat thru 30 showings of the FF. DVD came out Dec 6th. Haven't watched it in a month. My wife thought I was going to ware out my DVD player on my computer. So when I say I'm a fanatic, I'm dead serious. :D Also have the Clobering Time Thing, and the 2006 FF calander.
Can't get enough of the FF.
Angamb
06-10-2006, 09:48 AM
Actually i went to the theatre today yesterday night and asked my freind how is X3 doing and he said that attendance dropped 61% from last friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys i think we are in for a bigger drop this weekend too.
I am thinking around 12-14 million.
I was hoping for 15-17 million but what can we do???? It is performing like it is one of the worst comic book movies of all time.
FOX should be ashamed of themselves. There is no way i am going to support the spinoffs except maybe WOLVERINE and MAGNETO. But that is it.
X3 only needs $14 million for 200 total this weekend. And at the end of next week will have pass X2 total domestic boxoffice. I think it's good, not amazing (of course) but good.
GL's Light
06-10-2006, 10:31 AM
BOM has the Friday estimates:
1. Cars - $ 18.9 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 6.745 million
3. The Omen - $ 5.415 million
4. X3 - $ 4.805 million
phantom47
06-10-2006, 10:48 AM
Yeah that 4.8 mil sounds about right for a 16 mil opening
GL's Light
06-10-2006, 10:54 AM
Yeah, X3 should take $15-16 million this weekend. The drop should be 53 to 56 percent.
If Cars follows the normal pattern for an animated film, it should open to about $ 65 million.
crappymovie
06-10-2006, 10:55 AM
Yeah that 4.8 mil sounds about right for a 16 mil opening
Sounds good, looks like 15 million. Which isn't great considering X2 did 5 on Friday when facing the Matrix Reloaded, but we should take anything we can get. Although this doesn't bode well for the future: If it has about a 50% when facing Cars, it will basically die when faced with Click and Superman Returns (direct demographic hits.)
But better than expected! :up:
Amm-arD
06-10-2006, 10:56 AM
See it again and find out! :p
When I saw it last weekend, it seemed a lot more people stayed after the credits than they did on opening weekend.
OMG man that is harsshhh, please...wil someone just tell me:D ? then we can go back to how much X3 is grossing!
Angamb
06-10-2006, 11:01 AM
already $190,971,000 domestic. Well.
GL's Light
06-10-2006, 11:01 AM
BOM has increased the estimate for Cars to $ 19.3 million.
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 11:05 AM
Sounds good, looks like 15 million. Which isn't great considering X2 did 5 on Friday when facing the Matrix Reloaded, but we should take anything we can get. Although this doesn't bode well for the future: If it has about a 50% when facing Cars, it will basically die when faced with Click and Superman Returns (direct demographic hits.)
But better than expected! :up:
It's fine. Againa again everyone needs to realize blockbusters like this are more and more frontloaded now than ever before. So who cares if it makes 1 million more or a million less on one particular day. X3 sold way more tickets than X1 did in the first week thanks to more megaplexes and more screens. Things begin to even out over time but it's better for the studio to earn the money in the 1st week than the 3rd or 4th week.
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 11:05 AM
BOM has the Friday estimates:
1. Cars - $ 18.9 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 6.745 million
3. The Omen - $ 5.415 million
4. X3 - $ 4.805 million
Showbiz Data says 4.9 Million.
So let's assume 4.5-5.2 on Saturday though probably the lower number because of Cars, and on Sunday another 3.5-3.8 million. It'll put us right under or right over 200 million domestic alone.
phantom47
06-10-2006, 11:09 AM
My guess is once the actual number come in it will be closer to 5 mil friday
7 mil Saturday 4.5 Sunday =16 mil
GL's Light
06-10-2006, 11:10 AM
Yeah, Showbiz Data has higher estimates for the top films:
1. Cars - $ 19.5 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 6.8 million
3. The Omen - $ 5.7 million
4. X3 - $ 4.9 million
I think X3 will do $ 6-6.5 million on Saturday.
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 11:19 AM
If X3 makes 6-7 million on Saturday we should all be very happy for the franchise this weekend. Next week it should kick all sorts of ass at the Japan box office.
phantom47
06-10-2006, 11:24 AM
^^ I agree I think that Domestic it will break 200 mil this week...which might be the only movie this year to have done that so far (I might be wrong) and International should be 165-175 mil by monday and by next weekend X3 will be in between 215-220 mil Domestic and when it opens in Japan i could break 200 mill internationally
phantom47
06-10-2006, 11:28 AM
yup X3 will be the only movie so far to break 200 mil this year
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2006&p=.htm
Carp Man
06-10-2006, 12:14 PM
Mojo has estimated $ 4.8 million for Friday. Updated #'s below. $ 19.3 million estimate for Cars. $ 6.7 million estimate for Break Up. The Omen $ 5.4 million estimate. X-Men 4th for Friday
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 12:45 PM
We're at 146 overseas Carpman through this past Thursday. Hollywood Reporter get's the mon-thur #'s and reports them first, and then Mojo reports the Mon-Sun full week #'s later. We're at about 337 million worldwide.
CaptainStacy
06-10-2006, 03:22 PM
If X3 makes 6-7 million on Saturday we should all be very happy for the franchise this weekend. Next week it should kick all sorts of ass at the Japan box office.
Oh, so X3 hasnt opened in Japan yet? That's GREAT news! Ive heard Japan is a MAJOR movie market!
The numbers should continue to swell!
I love it.
RedIsNotBlue
06-10-2006, 03:26 PM
Oh, so X3 hasnt opened in Japan yet? That's GREAT news! Ive heard Japan is a MAJOR movie market!
The numbers should continue to swell!
I love it.
According to IMDB.
South Korea 15 June 2006
Taiwan 16 June 2006
Japan 16 September 2006
RedIsNotBlue
06-10-2006, 03:31 PM
X2 numbers
South Korea $7,360,016
Taiwan $1,368,740
Japan $15,253,222
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 05:12 PM
Multiply those #'s by 1.3 to 1.5 to get a conservative estimate of X3's #'s.
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 05:13 PM
^ I thought Japan was June 15th too per Mojo. I'll have to go back and look.
Edit: Nope. September 9th. We'll get a sudden boost then. That's nice.
Carp Man
06-10-2006, 07:05 PM
Oh, so X3 hasnt opened in Japan yet? That's GREAT news! Ive heard Japan is a MAJOR movie market!
The numbers should continue to swell!
I love it.
Me too. :) China 7/20. Japan 9/9. So those Japan #'s should be a great push. X2 did 16.2 million from those 2 countries. So figure mabey 20 million more right there.
danoyse
06-10-2006, 07:19 PM
I was hoping for 15-17 million but what can we do???? It is performing like it is one of the worst comic book movies of all time.
No, it's not.
There is no way i am going to support the spinoffs except maybe WOLVERINE and MAGNETO. But that is it.
LOL...so that's 2 of the 3 spinoffs they have planned that you're not going to boycott? :rolleyes:
Carp Man
06-10-2006, 07:27 PM
^ I thought Japan was June 15th too per Mojo. I'll have to go back and look.
Edit: Nope. September 9th. We'll get a sudden boost then. That's nice.
Yes it will be. I said 400 to 450 million, before opening. 400 looks doeable. 450 ? Another 120 million ? Does this movie have 60 million more from domestic sales ?
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 09:35 PM
Your #'s are still wrong. Your missing international Mon-Thur of last week totally 146 million.
Hiruu
06-10-2006, 11:37 PM
Mojo has estimated $ 4.8 million for Friday. Updated #'s below. $ 19.3 million estimate for Cars. $ 6.7 million estimate for Break Up. The Omen $ 5.4 million estimate. X-Men 4th for Friday
Those numbers are very good in light of last week's drop, as it put's the film well on course for $250 million. There was some rumblings amongst the usual grippers about last weekends drp, but The movie looks to hit $200 million this week, so this film trilogy has been VERY successful.
Advanced Dark
06-10-2006, 11:50 PM
Yep. It passed Ice Age today though the numbers aren't official to Monday as the top film of the year. Superman is getting some really kick ass reviews right now but I think Pirates might cannibalize it. X3 doesn't have any major action competition till Superman so it should hold out ok.
Tony Stark
06-11-2006, 12:19 AM
Yes it will be. I said 400 to 450 million, before opening. 400 looks doeable. 450 ? Another 120 million ? Does this movie have 60 million more from domestic sales ?
I don't think so. X3 just jumped the shark. When crappy remakes of the Omen are outdrawing you, you know the movie hit it's peak already.
The fact that a movie that has the largest memorial day weekend opening, isn't going to make 300 million domestically is a huge dissapointment.
RedIsNotBlue
06-11-2006, 12:44 AM
I don't think so. X3 just jumped the shark. When crappy remakes of the Omen are outdrawing you, you know the movie hit it's peak already.
The fact that a movie that has the largest memorial day weekend opening, isn't going to make 300 million domestically is a huge dissapointment.
Where have you been?? The box office has been like this for a while now.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 01:19 AM
Oh I know red. Like before X3 came out that anyone expected it to really hit 300 million domestic. The opening weekend was awesome for Fox and frontloaded films are the way of the business now.
Oh I know red. Like before X3 came out that anyone expected it to really hit 300 million domestic. The opening weekend was awesome for Fox and frontloaded films are the way of the business now.
Haha . . . I think there were some optimists on these boards predicting it would make over 300 million . . . Hell, the way it was being hyped you would have thought it would be the superhero movie to end all superhero movies . . .
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 01:28 AM
^ It was an awesome final chapter to this trilogy. I look at it as a chapter and not just a stand alone film. I loved it. I wish they'd edit it together with X2 as one film.
Well, for me, I think all movies should be able to be stand on their own. Of course, when dealing with these films, some things obviously would have to be carried over with a pre-existing knowledge, i.e. the death of Jean Grey, but I think it speaks more to the power of a film if it's able to stand on its own legs without relying too heavily on previous films. I wish FOX wouldn't have been so quick to pigeonholed this series into being a trilogy. I can see where you would like X2 and X3 edited together though. I don't think I would so much, because for me, I felt there was a noticeable difference in style and tone. It will be interesting to see how X3 settles over the next few weeks.
RedIsNotBlue
06-11-2006, 02:23 AM
A lot of this big blockbusters in the past year have disappointed in some form or another even though they were successful. It is a combination of ticket prices, people waiting for dvd, piracy, etc.
Fanticon
06-11-2006, 05:30 AM
I'll admit I thought it was gonna hit 300million...and after that opening weekend I thought I should've put money on it...but then that second weekend drop was very steep...and at this point I just hope overall it does atleast pass X2's take and the world wide take...Thats just cuz I want to see more of these films...And I really did get the feeling that people were very excited to see this film...the general public I mean...But lately its getting harder to predict...so...even those Boxoffice prediction websites were correctly pinning it at 215-230m...many of them also under predicted the opening weekend...its just hard to tell even when studios claim their films are tracking well...almost none of this matters anymore. Movies used to be successful domestically and everything else was profit...now...a movie needs to get by on both the domestic and international take to break even...and then DVD sales will have to be the deciding profitable factor.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 09:23 AM
I don't think so. X3 just jumped the shark. When crappy remakes of the Omen are outdrawing you, you know the movie hit it's peak already.
The fact that a movie that has the largest memorial day weekend opening, isn't going to make 300 million domestically is a huge dissapointment.
with X2 opening weekend it should have done 250 million but it didn't so that movie too was dissapointing.
Milkman95
06-11-2006, 10:07 AM
With another sizable drop this weekend, X3 will be lucky to hit $230m.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:18 AM
Ok. X3's estimated #'s are in for the weekend. Updated #'s below. $ 15,550,000 for weekend estimate. $ 62.8 million for Cars, 20.5 million for Break Up. then X-Men. so X-Men finished 3rd this weekend. 54.3 % drop from last weekend.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:20 AM
With another sizable drop this weekend, X3 will be lucky to hit $230m.
Oh ye of no faith. :down
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:21 AM
with X2 opening weekend it should have done 250 million but it didn't so that movie too was dissapointing.
Disapointing ? What the hell is disapointing about a film that will make over 400 million ?
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 11:23 AM
The daily breakdowns for the weekend estimate:
Fri - $ 4.8 million
Sat - $ 6.45 million
Sun - $ 4.3 million
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:27 AM
Those numbers are very good in light of last week's drop, as it put's the film well on course for $250 million. There was some rumblings amongst the usual grippers about last weekends drp, but The movie looks to hit $200 million this week, so this film trilogy has been VERY successful.
Yea well you will always have the other side finding the glass half empty. I perfer to look at what it has done in setting records for it's opening weekend. It had the 2nd best opening day EVER behind ROTS. Not even BB can claim that. It had the best Memorial day weekend ever. So let the DC fanboys have their doom and gloom party. We shall see how SR does it's 2nd weekend, when POTC 2 fires a cannon ball right into Sups gut.
invincible mann
06-11-2006, 11:31 AM
still couldnt beat the break up?
surprising
antariksh
06-11-2006, 11:34 AM
Yea well you will always have the other side finding the glass half empty. I perfer to look at what it has done in setting records for it's opening weekend. It had the 2nd best opening day EVER behind ROTS. Not even BB can claim that. It had the best Memorial day weekend ever. So let the DC fanboys have their doom and gloom party. We shall see how SR does it's 2nd weekend, when POTC 2 fires a cannon ball right into Sups gut.
That last scentence you wrote was awesome. WELL DONE :up: :up:
LOL.
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 11:35 AM
We shall see how SR does it's 2nd weekend, when POTC 2 fires a cannon ball right into Sups gut.
At least it'll be a worthy film, not the Break-Up.
David33
06-11-2006, 11:37 AM
That last scentence you wrote was awesome. WELL DONE :up: :up:
LOL.
I agree. LOL:D .
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 11:39 AM
With another sizable drop this weekend, X3 will be lucky to hit $230m.
It had an ok drop this week, around 54%. It should unfortunately have a bigger drop when faced by Fast and the Furious 3 next weekend (instead ic Cars), and that should say something. The people who are still watching X3 aren't the sophisticated crowd haha, it's the same audience who is clamouring for FnF 3. Disagree? Different demographics maybe? Next weekend we'll see...
By the way, I'm happy to say that X3 exceeded my predcitions this weekend. :up: It isn't a bad enough movie to deserve a 60% drop, and I want to see an X4.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 11:46 AM
Carpman keeps stubbornly ignoring the international totals of 7 million from this past Mon-Thur. The International total is 146.1 million without the weekend.
X3 is now the #1 grossing film in 2006 and should close in on 240-250 million. Tokyo Drift looks like a pathetic joke. I'm happy Vin Diesel is on to make more of a direct sequel to the first film with Paul Walker. He didn't want to but by doing so he got financing that he was looking for...for Hannibal the Conqueror & the second sequel to Riddick. You'll hear about that soon.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:46 AM
At least it'll be a worthy film, not the Break-Up.
The only reason it did well is because Vince, and Jen are shacked up together. And the whole, Jen, Brad breakup. That's all. Not any commentary of X3. If they put out a movie, Brad, and Jen have a baby, it would make a kazillion dollars. People love gossip.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Carpman keeps stubbornly ignoring the international totals of 7 million from this past Mon-Thur. The International total is 146.1 million without the weekend.
I shall wait for Mojo, then we will have the rest of the story, to coin a phrase.
invincible mann
06-11-2006, 11:47 AM
no not even BB can say it had the best memorial day weekend ever
because it opened june 15th
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 11:48 AM
^ That's not true. It's a damn funny film and people couldn't get enough of him in Wedding Crasher though the ending is depressing. Vince Vaughn's hyper ventilating comedy is hilarious.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 11:49 AM
I shall wait for Mojo, then we will have the rest of the story, to coin a phrase.
You should update it when the #'s come out. There's only 2 sources for the figure and they're both accurate. Mojo will come out with the 146.1 # in a day or two but have the weekend added bringing us to well over 150 million international. We should hi 200 million international easily when Japan comes out at the latest.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:51 AM
That last scentence you wrote was awesome. WELL DONE :up: :up:
LOL.
Thanks, anyone who knows me, knows I pull no punches. I tell it like I see it. And if I'm wroung ? So ? :)
invincible mann
06-11-2006, 11:51 AM
maybe the breakup is a better movie then people think
it had less of a dropoff then X3
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 11:53 AM
It's very funny.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 11:59 AM
no not even BB can say it had the best memorial day weekend ever
because it opened june 15th
I said LARGEST OPENING DAY EVER, BEHIND ROTS. BB is somewhere down there in the 15 million range. FF is 27th all time. top 10 opening days of all time Marvel 4, DC 0. :) And I don't see that changing opening day of SR. 31.2 million is # 10 alltime opening days owned by X2.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 12:07 PM
Thanks, anyone who knows me, knows I pull no punches. I tell it like I see it. And if I'm wroung ? So ? :)
If you're wrong, and SR outgrosses X3 by a wide margin in worldwide box office, you're going to be fed great big helpings of crow. :)
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 12:16 PM
If you're wrong, and SR outgrosses X3 by a wide margin in worldwide box office, you're going to be fed great big helpings of crow. :)
Doesn't bother me. At least I take a stand. And am not affraid to make bold outlandish statements. I stick to me guns, I don't go back and forth. :)
antariksh
06-11-2006, 12:32 PM
If you're wrong, and SR outgrosses X3 by a wide margin in worldwide box office, you're going to be fed great big helpings of crow. :)
meh who cares if SR beats X3 worldwide boxoffice.
The only thing i know is that SR won't make a profit at boxoffice simply because of its production budget which is somewhere in the $250-300 million range.
Plus POTC 2 will definitely blow up SR's BALLS domestic and overseas guaranteed.
Weadazoid
06-11-2006, 12:38 PM
Fox is a huge winner this year in general
Ice age 2, X men 3 and now the the Omen which only cost a measly 25 Million to make and already is a winner in terms of the box office for a horror flick
Wb should be realing right now at what it cost to make Posiedon!
The Batman
06-11-2006, 12:49 PM
nice to see you dumbasses still think there's some kind of war between dc and marvel...lol
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 12:54 PM
nice to see you dumbasses still think there's some kind of war between dc and marvel...lol
There's no war between DC and Marvel, just a war between Carp Man and Superman Returns - and Carp Man is gonna lose, of course. I mean, really, Carp Man versus Superman? That's like putting Urkel in the ring against George Foreman. :cool:
The Batman
06-11-2006, 12:58 PM
its pathetic. X3 is slowly dropping, so all these guys have to bash SR to make themselves feel better.
"Ooooh, Sr is gonna get owned by pirates of the carribean!"
"Ohh Carp Man, you're so cool!"
At least SR wasnt owned by the freaking breakup, and the omen movie no one asked for.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:03 PM
nice to see you dumbasses still think there's some kind of war between dc and marvel...lol
See. there is the mentality I refer to. I have no problem with either Superman or Batman. It's DC fanboys like this who make me dislike DC. And oh The Batman, did you catch my performance last year during FF's run ? There was and always will be only 1 The Thing 2005 on these boards, and you're looking right at him.
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 01:04 PM
ON BoxOfficemojo it has the Omen under X-men 3 which is good.
Weadazoid
06-11-2006, 01:05 PM
its pathetic. X3 is slowly dropping, so all these guys have to bash SR to make themselves feel better.
"Ooooh, Sr is gonna get owned by pirates of the carribean!"
"Ohh Carp Man, you're so cool!"
At least SR wasnt owned by the freaking breakup, and the omen movie no one asked for.
actually X 3 beat out Omen 666 this weekend, and the break up isn't really 'owning' the X Men it has been a very tight between the two.....X3 just past 200 Million in just about 3 weeks time..
Pretty impressive in my books
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:05 PM
its pathetic. X3 is slowly dropping, so all these guys have to bash SR to make themselves feel better.
"Ooooh, Sr is gonna get owned by pirates of the carribean!"
"Ohh Carp Man, you're so cool!"
At least SR wasnt owned by the freaking breakup, and the omen movie no one asked for.
I don't have to bash anything to make myself feel better. X3 has and will continue to do great. SR will fall mightly when POTC2 opens. To speak fact is no lie. Now run back to the batcave, and breath in more of those fumes comming out of the batmobiles tailpipe.
CaptainStacy
06-11-2006, 01:06 PM
At least it'll be a worthy film, not the Break-Up.
And who decides which movies are "worthy", pray tell?
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:07 PM
I don't have to bash anything to make myself feel better. X3 has and will continue to do great. SR will fall mightly when POTC2 opens. To speak fact is no lie.
Prediction isn't fact. We'll see what the facts are in time. My prediction is that SR won't suffer a second weekend drop as steep as 67%, even in the face of intense competition from Pirates 2.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:10 PM
And who decides which movies are "worthy", pray tell?
Hey Capt. welcome. :) There backkkkkkkkkkkkkk . LOL
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 01:13 PM
Come on I think with SR and POTC2 opening soo close together that POTC2will get less than they have in the past because of SR but SR box office numbers will fall big time when this movie comes out...Good thing its comes out in like a little less than a month it gives movies like Cars and X-men 3 to gather all the money they can before these two come in play!!!
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:13 PM
And who decides which movies are "worthy", pray tell?
The Public. :) And the public says, X3 is awsome.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:15 PM
Come on I think with SR and POTC2 opening soo close together that POTC2will get less than they have in the past because of SR but SR box office numbers will fall big time when this movie comes out...Good thing its comes out in like a little less than a month it gives movies like Cars and X-men 3 to gather all the money they can before these two come in play!!!
I'm not worried about SR catching X3. And POTC 2 is not a superhero film. So that will play no part, except to hold SR's #'s down. And remember X3 does not open in Japan till 9/9. Johnny Depp is a hot commidy. CATCF, and WC contributed to FF's big 2nd weekend drop. And same thing will happen to SR 2nd weekend.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:16 PM
Back to X3's box office. The second weekend drop is steep enough that 250 domestic is now out of reach, the same is likely true of 240. I think it'll top out at 230. Worldwide should end up at 430-440.
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:17 PM
And who decides which movies are "worthy", pray tell?
Demographics. X3 and the Break Up were supposed to have different demographics, but it seems that the adults decided to flock to the Break up. Superman Returns and Pirates = exact same demographic. Its not even a fair comparison...but of course that doesn't matter.
And please quote me during Superman's second weekend: It will not drop 67% if it's reviews are in the 70s-80s.
And X3 will drop another 50-60% next weekend when the remaining 10 year old kids seeing the film will decide to watch the Fast and the Furious 3. And when Superman opens, it will drop another 50%.So hold on to your opening weekend....because that's the only thing that kept this movie alive.
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:18 PM
The Public. :) And the public says, X3 is awsome.
You're right. A 67% drop, and a 54%. They love this film...they didn't even have the MatriX Reloaded to run to this time, they ran to the Break-Up and Cars.:up:
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 01:18 PM
^^^^^^ Good point...I guess I'll go see POTC2 ..LOL
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:26 PM
Prediction isn't fact. We'll see what the facts are in time. My prediction is that SR won't suffer a second weekend drop as steep as 67%, even in the face of intense competition from Pirates 2.
There's no point disagreeing with them. They were the ones saying that X3 would handily beat the Break-Up, and we saw what happened. That's when the quoting of the opening weekend numbers began constantly. Guess what: The previous X films did that for X3. The opening day was huge: it's not because X3 was amazing. Unless everyone who saw it on that day saw it a hundred more times, because it was such an epic. Notice the drop on Saturday, after the fans had left the theatres, and it was just a normal film.
X3's opening weekend was a huge success, but are you seriously trying to attribute it to a "great" film?:up:
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:27 PM
Back to X3's box office. The second weekend drop is steep enough that 250 domestic is now out of reach, the same is likely true of 240. I think it'll top out at 230. Worldwide should end up at 430-440.
250 is not out of reach. If it stays open 16 weeks, like X2 did,it has to make about 4 million a week for the next 14 weeks to reach 250 million in domestic sales. And it has allready made 15.5 million this week.
Avalanche
06-11-2006, 01:27 PM
And X3 will drop another 50-60% next weekend when the remaining 10 year old kids seeing the film will decide to watch the Fast and the Furious 3. And when Superman opens, it will drop another 50%.So hold on to your opening weekend....because that's the only thing that kept this movie alive.I hate the way people are taking the opening weekend and turning it into a negative. Of course there was a big drop off. More people saw X3 in the first weekend, so there were less to see it in the following weekends. Regardless of the drop offs, X3 has has a great box office.
$200m is a good box office, drop off or not.
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 01:29 PM
Is it me or is this thread is all about 3 users petting each other backs saying how good x-3 is doing in the BO?
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 01:34 PM
No not really I just joined this thread on ethis page......Well atleast we have hav esomething posiotve to say about the film that is true...Would you not agree that X3 is doing good in the Box office?
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:35 PM
Is it me or is this thread is all about 3 users petting each other backs saying how good x-3 is doing in the BO?
haha I love this bias of this thread. Myself, I didn't like the movie much, so I view the box office with a certain disdain. Those who loved the film (many in this thread have commented that they knew nothing about the X-Men...random tidbit :up: ) are raptorous about the box office. "HUGE opening weekend! $200 million, wow! Domestic in JAPAN will be huge."
So, when will our opinions change? X3 dislikers will always remember the 67% drop, 53% drop, and most likely 55% drop next weekend. X3 lovers will remember the huge opening weekend, and good domestic numbers (the international are not that great compared to Da Vinci..Oh but JAPAN! haha.) So...it's basically futile. My standpoint is: X2, which faced the Matrix Reloaded and dropped 57% that weekend, was a greater success. It made twice it's production budget, and was a critical success.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:36 PM
250 is not out of reach. If it stays open 16 weeks, like X2 did,it has to make about 4 million a week for the next 14 weeks to reach 250 million in domestic sales. And it has allready made 15.5 million this week.
From the end of its third weekend to the end of its run, X2 pulled in $ 41 million. X3's numbers are now consistently tracking behind what X2 pulled on its comparable days. 250 is out of reach.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:36 PM
X3's opening weekend was a huge success, but are you seriously trying to attribute it to a "great" film?:up:
It was a good film. What is your major malfunction ? Didn't mommy and daddy give you enough attention ? ( Guess which movie that line comes from). Great is a term I reserve for a truley great movie, like Gone With The Wind, Casabalanca, Titanic. X3 wasn't a " great " movie. It is a good movie, that the general public enjoyed.
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:37 PM
Is it me or is this thread is all about 3 users petting each other backs saying how good x-3 is doing in the BO?
But yes, they do enjoy their petting. Just like we enjoy spitting venom at everything. haha :O
...I just can't take the ridiculous praise. It's no Titanic.
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 01:38 PM
To be honest I don't understand much at BO numbers so when someone explains why it's doing bad I'm like 'wow it's doing bad' then someone say how it's doing well and again I'm impressed. At any rate, whenever I come here the same 3 guys are telling each other how well x-3 is doing.
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 01:40 PM
Am I one of those 3 guys?
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:40 PM
It was a good film. What is your major malfunction ? Didn't mommy and daddy give you enough attention ? ( Guess which movie that line comes from). Great is a term I reserve for a truley great movie, like Gone With The Wind, Casabalanca, Titanic. X3 wasn't a " great " movie. It is a good movie, that the general public enjoyed.
You are odd. I was saying, does the box office indicate that it is loved by the public? a 67% drop? a 54% drop? I understand that you think X3 is a good film, but frankly, I couldn't care less. I'm sure you thought Fantastic Four was a masterpiece, based on your praise of the film.
How does the box office indicate the general public enjoyed the film? Where is the majority of the money coming from, opening weekend maybe? So...since the 40 year old virgin made less then the Hulk, did the general public enjoy it less?
CaptainStacy
06-11-2006, 01:40 PM
Demographics. X3 and the Break Up were supposed to have different demographics, but it seems that the adults decided to flock to the Break up. Superman Returns and Pirates = exact same demographic. Its not even a fair comparison...but of course that doesn't matter.
So? SR getting trounced by a movie from the same "demograph" (assuming that indeed even happens) in no way makes The Break Up a less "worthy" film to all those "adults" who "flocked to it"....
"a beat is a beat", as they say on the basketball court. At the end of the year, whichever movie from WHATEVER genre has made the most money will be referred to as the #1 movie of 2006.
Period.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:40 PM
From the end of its third weekend to the end of its run, X2 pulled in $ 41 million. X3's numbers are now consistently tracking behind what X2 pulled on its comparable days. 250 is out of reach.
I know, I had the same argument last year with FF. It's not a big deal. I say it will, you say it won't. My glass is half full, yours is half empty. Howerever, I like your style. Keep posting. And I love your avatar. :up: Daffy is still one of my favorite Looneytoon charactors, behind Bugs.
Warhammer
06-11-2006, 01:41 PM
Yes!
I am glad that X3 crossed the 200 million mark.
This baby is going to make big money when it ends it's theater run and will make huge money on DVD. :D
It won't make that much more though.
Good movies deserve good box office.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:42 PM
The box office doesn't have to be painted in extremes. The overall worldwide gross will be a big success by the standards of the X-Men franchise. X3 had a great opening weekend, followed by poor legs (even by the standards of today's oft frontloaded box office). The film obviously drew a more mixed reaction than X2, which cut its legs a little shorter than X2's.
Carp Man, your "mommy and daddy" quote is from Full Metal Jacket. So is the "major malfunction" reference.
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 01:42 PM
haha I love this bias of this thread. Myself, I didn't like the movie much, so I view the box office with a certain disdain. Those who loved the film (many in this thread have commented that they knew nothing about the X-Men...random tidbit :up: ) are raptorous about the box office. "HUGE opening weekend! $200 million, wow! Domestic in JAPAN will be huge."
So, when will our opinions change? X3 dislikers will always remember the 67% drop, 53% drop, and most likely 55% drop next weekend. X3 lovers will remember the huge opening weekend, and good domestic numbers (the international are not that great compared to Da Vinci..Oh but JAPAN! haha.) So...it's basically futile. My standpoint is: X2, which faced the Matrix Reloaded and dropped 57% that weekend, was a greater success. It made twice it's production budget, and was a critical success.
You didn't like x-3? I was wondering for a while you gave mixed reactions
(or was it crap-man? Well it was some one with crap in his nick :p)
Any way it's very true people who liked x-3 will say huge opening, people who hated it will say 67% drop.
But man that's a big drop :D
crappymovie
06-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Yes!
I am glad that X3 crossed the 200 million mark.
This baby is going to make big money when it ends it's theater run and will make huge money on DVD. :D
It won't make that much more though.
Good movies deserve good box office.
I give up. I just wish Superman Returns would open sooner.
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Am I one of those 3 guys?
I'm not saying :o
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phantom47
06-11-2006, 01:45 PM
X2 had 57% drop so whats your point^^^^(edit: crappy movie))
X3 54% drop with competiton like cars/omen/breakup, and still managed to beat omen
67%=following weekend out of memorial weekend w/ 123 mil opening
Warhammer
06-11-2006, 01:45 PM
I give up. I just wish Superman Returns would open sooner.
LOL.
How much do you want to bet Superman Returns will make more money than X3, though?
phantom47
06-11-2006, 01:47 PM
I give up. I just wish Superman Returns would open sooner.so POTC2 will kick its ass
CapBeerCino
06-11-2006, 01:47 PM
LOL.
How much do you want to bet Superman Returns will make more money than X3, though?
$2,387,089 :o
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:47 PM
X2 had 57% drop so whats your point^^^^(carp man)
X3 54% drop with competiton like cars/omen/breakup, and still managed to beat omen
67%=following weekend out of memorial weekend w/ 123 mil opening
The 67% drop is calculated from the 3-day weekend, not from the long 4-day weekend.
Warhammer
06-11-2006, 01:49 PM
so POTC2 wont kick its ass
I think POTC2 will be the biggest movie of the year, if not than most definitely Top 3.
phantom47
06-11-2006, 01:50 PM
The 67% drop is calculated from the 3-day weekend, not from the long 4-day weekend.ohh then 103 mil:):)
phantom47
06-11-2006, 01:50 PM
I think POTC2 will be the biggest movie of the year, if not than most definitely Top 3.i meant will
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:52 PM
So? SR getting trounced by a movie from the same "demograph" (assuming that indeed even happens) in no way makes The Break Up a less "worthy" film to all those "adults" who "flocked to it"....
"a beat is a beat", as they say on the basketball court. At the end of the year, whichever movie from WHATEVER genre has made the most money will be referred to as the #1 movie of 2006.
Period.
Movie of the year ? Right now Ice age sits at 631.1 million, Di Vinci Code at 597.1 million. I don't see a movie except POTC 2 beating either.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 01:54 PM
I think Pirates 2 will be the biggest movie of the year, too, but that doesn't preclude SR from also being a big hit.
phantom47
06-11-2006, 01:56 PM
I think Pirates 2 will be the biggest movie of the year, too, but that doesn't preclude SR from also being a big hit.Iagree:up::up:
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 01:57 PM
Carp Man, your "mommy and daddy" quote is from Full Metal Jacket. So is the "major malfunction" reference.
You get a can of Carps own mix of deodorent. However read the warning lable before using. May attract cats. :) However wtg.
lordofthenerds
06-11-2006, 01:57 PM
Movie of the year ? Right now Ice age sits at 631.1 million, Di Vinci Code at 597.1 million. I don't see a movie except POTC 2 beating either.
Those movies are kicking X3's a$$ worldwide.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 02:01 PM
Those movies are kicking X3's a$$ worldwide.
So ? will kick SR butt also. You just can't win an argument with the Carp Man. I'm the best spin doctor there is.
lordofthenerds
06-11-2006, 02:11 PM
So ? will kick SR butt also. You just can't win an argument with the Carp Man. I'm the best spin doctor there is.
I never said they wouldn't. And no your not. :o
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 02:22 PM
Does anyone know why Japan is getting it soo late?
danoyse
06-11-2006, 02:30 PM
But yes, they do enjoy their petting. Just like we enjoy spitting venom at everything. haha :O
But what's more pathetic, really? When I don't like a movie, I move on...I don't post over and over again about how much everyone who did like it is apparently wrong, or thumb my nose at the box office numbers to *prove* it. :rolleyes:
I mean, honestly...this thread having it's share of box office cheerleaders is nothing compared to the number of Cyclops mourners constantly taking over every other thread. You guys think you're actually better because you didn't like the movie?
I did like the movie. They're not paying me like it. Yeah, I think if Fox had been smart and kept Bryan Singer around things would have worked out better...but what could have been a truly crap movie under the circumstances turned out to be surprisingly enjoyable one anyway, so it was worth the $7 I paid to see it.
And you know what? I'm very excited about both "Superman Returns" and "Pirates of the Carribbean." I plan to see both of those on their opening weekends (SR at the IMAX).
So no, it's not pathetic to be positive about the box office. It's certainly done well enough to keep the series going. And that's good news. :up:
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 03:31 PM
Box Office prophets has nice little blurb on X3. Saying it's another large drop but all things even out really after such a huge opening weekend. The top 12 films this week made 148 million combined. Put that in perspective with X3's 4 day opening gross. Front loaded is the way studios make their money now. Legs mean nothing if you make the same amount of money anyways...except for bragging rights.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 03:31 PM
Box Office prophets has nice little blurb on X3. Saying it's another large drop but all things even out really after such a huge opening weekend. The top 12 films this week made 148 million combined. Put that in perspective with X3's 4 day opening gross. Front loaded is the way studios make their money now. Legs mean nothing if you make the same amount of money anyways...except for bragging rights.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 03:36 PM
Box Office prophets has nice little blurb on X3. Saying it's another large drop but all things even out really after such a huge opening weekend. The top 12 films this week made 148 million combined. Put that in perspective with X3's 4 day opening gross. Front loaded is the way studios make their money now. Legs mean nothing if you make the same amount of money anyways...except for bragging rights.
Your right. Films are front loaded. A film the 1st week makes the bulk of its sales. If it doesn't make it 1st week, it's not going to pick up. X3's opening weekend was so tremendous, anything after that is a disapointment. There was no way it could keep that pace up. if it had made say 70 million, then 44 million would have been a pretty reasonable drop. but 44 million, up against 103 million is terriable. So it is all relevent.
RedIsNotBlue
06-11-2006, 03:40 PM
By the end of its box office run X3 will be in the same ballpark as X2.
borinquenknight
06-11-2006, 03:41 PM
haha I love this bias of this thread. Myself, I didn't like the movie much, so I view the box office with a certain disdain. Those who loved the film (many in this thread have commented that they knew nothing about the X-Men...random tidbit :up: ) are raptorous about the box office. "HUGE opening weekend! $200 million, wow! Domestic in JAPAN will be huge."
So, when will our opinions change? X3 dislikers will always remember the 67% drop, 53% drop, and most likely 55% drop next weekend. X3 lovers will remember the huge opening weekend, and good domestic numbers (the international are not that great compared to Da Vinci..Oh but JAPAN! haha.) So...it's basically futile. My standpoint is: X2, which faced the Matrix Reloaded and dropped 57% that weekend, was a greater success. It made twice it's production budget, and was a critical success.
My only concern when it comes to Box Office figures is that Fox figures out they can keep on producing mediocre films. Xmen Motion Picture Franchise (atleast X1 and X2) R.I.P.:(
gambitfire
06-11-2006, 03:45 PM
By the end of its box office run X3 will be in the same ballpark as X2.
we'll see :o
Weadazoid
06-11-2006, 03:46 PM
By the end of its box office run X3 will be in the same ballpark as X2.
A bit more by my estimation
X2 only made 214 domestic.
I think this is headed for at least 240...
4rth of July could still give it one final small boost
Fanticon
06-11-2006, 03:49 PM
Okay I know its an X3 forum...but if this is any indication on how Superman will fair with audiences...well its in for either a major upset or a major surprise...http://joblo.com/index.php?id=11668
Superman might only eek by 200 million like Batman Begins did...and then suffer huge drops in the face of POTC2...X3 is still moving...but we'll see...this is just bad buzz for SR imo. Maybe just pointless Hollywood dish:rolleyes:
Pickle-El
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
That last scentence you wrote was awesome. WELL DONE :up: :up:
LOL.
You saw what happened to the bullet that hit his eye, right? ;)
danoyse
06-11-2006, 03:51 PM
Box Office prophets has nice little blurb on X3. Saying it's another large drop but all things even out really after such a huge opening weekend. The top 12 films this week made 148 million combined. Put that in perspective with X3's 4 day opening gross. Front loaded is the way studios make their money now. Legs mean nothing if you make the same amount of money anyways...except for bragging rights.
Yeah, I haven't seen anything negative in regards to X3 in any of the weekend box office reports so far. The only negative thing I've read is that "Cars" didn't do as well and The Incredibles and Finding Nemo did on their opening weekends--but still made a bloody fortune. :)
danoyse
06-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Okay I know its an X3 forum...but if this is any indication on how Superman will fair with audiences...well its in for either a major upset or a major surprise...http://joblo.com/index.php?id=11668
I read that too...but sometimes I also think JoBlo judges movies only by the number of topless women who appear. :rolleyes:
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 03:54 PM
You saw what happened to the bullet that hit his eye, right? ;)
Yea but I think that cannon ball Deep will fire might have a bit of krytonite wrapped on the outside of it. Not enoug to kill, just knock some of the wind out of the sails. :)
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 03:58 PM
I read that too...but sometimes I also think JoBlo judges movies only by the number of topless women who appear. :rolleyes:
Sounds like it may do well, then fall. From this it appears that those expecting a great action packed Superman movie, may be disapointed. Remember they got these comments from those who saw it. These are not comments off the top of their head.
Source: JoBlo.com by: JoBlo
Bryan Singer's SUPERMAN RETURNS was screened to a bunch of 'industry folk' in L.A. last night and from what I've heard from most of my contacts who saw the flick so far...it's "...good, but not great." Several people talked about how Lex Luthor's character simply didn't work in the film, especially his "big plan" (lame, apparently), but that Brandon Routh and Kate Bosworth were great and that the directing was well done. "Singer's an amazing film-maker. But I think his take is a little too out of touch for today's audiences (especially the young/urban crowd). Ultimately it's too much of a chick flick with not enough action and a weak villain." For those who don't know this, the film runs 153 minutes and is supposed to follow the 2nd SUPERMAN movie in continuity, as Supes returns to Earth and finds Lois Lane with child, etc... This news kinda sucks since I was hoping SUPERMAN RETURNS would be the great superhero movie of the summer, especially since I think X-MEN 3 wasn't "all that", but alas, I guess there's no way to be 100% sure until I see the film myself (opens June 28th), but word on the street is not great so far, so my expectations have already been lowered. Let's hope that Singer can pull something cool out of his hat anyway.
Pickle-El
06-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Okay I know its an X3 forum...but if this is any indication on how Superman will fair with audiences...well its in for either a major upset or a major surprise...http://joblo.com/index.php?id=11668
Superman might only eek by 200 million like Batman Begins did...and then suffer huge drops in the face of POTC2...X3 is still moving...but we'll see...this is just bad buzz for SR imo. Maybe just pointless Hollywood dish:rolleyes:
hehehe.....nice try. If you wanna read the other 8 reviews were there is nothing short of gushing about it, take this to the SR forums.....OH and let me quote that article, from the guy who made that column:
but alas, I guess there's no way to be 100% sure until I see the film myself (opens June 28th),
Pretty pointless isn't it? :o
Back on topic, I think X3 will top off around 235 or so. Not bad. I had at my high end 250.
RedIsNotBlue
06-11-2006, 04:02 PM
A bit more by my estimation
X2 only made 214 domestic.
I think this is headed for at least 240...
4rth of July could still give it one final small boost
I am talking about domestic and worldwide.
MoviesKickAss
06-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Okay I know its an X3 forum...but if this is any indication on how Superman will fair with audiences...well its in for either a major upset or a major surprise...http://joblo.com/index.php?id=11668
Superman might only eek by 200 million like Batman Begins did...and then suffer huge drops in the face of POTC2...X3 is still moving...but we'll see...this is just bad buzz for SR imo. Maybe just pointless Hollywood dish:rolleyes:
Your trusting a Site like joblo ? Thats as believable as IMDB ? One Review VS everyone else so far that has been amazing positive. It figures you die hard X Fans are only using the ONE REVIEW so far that is negative in anyway possible
Typical
danoyse
06-11-2006, 04:03 PM
hehehe.....nice try. If you wanna read the other 8 reviews were there is nothing short of gushing about it, take this to the SR forums.....OH and let me quote that article, from the guy who made that column:
I've been waiting 20 years for a decent Superman movie. It better be good! :)
pyro9vivacita
06-11-2006, 04:06 PM
whoever said X3 will be in X2 range is wrong it's already at 200 mil and is about to pass X2!!!
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 04:08 PM
hehehe.....nice try. If you wanna read the other 8 reviews were there is nothing short of gushing about it, take this to the SR forum
Oh now there is a purly objective place to find reviews about SR. As you said, nice try.
MoviesKickAss
06-11-2006, 04:10 PM
Oh now there is a purly objective place to find reviews about SR. As you said, nice try.
& what do you call posting the only negative review so far here :confused: This place is no better then what you would get in the Superman Returns Forums only the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you would get
Pickle-El
06-11-2006, 04:14 PM
Oh now there is a purly objective place to find reviews about SR. As you said, nice try.
I'm sorry to everyone, I just want to prove a point.....Here's one from IESB.
http://iesb.net/warnerbros2006/061006.php
Oh, and if anyone wants to discuss this further, there's an off topic thread here......you can PM me, or post in the other forum....no problem. :up:
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 04:20 PM
Guys guys Superman has nothing to do with X3. Superman looks like a great movie so buy a ticket and enjoy it. For those who enjoyed X3 and like to track the box office post here.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 04:24 PM
You saw what happened to the bullet that hit his eye, right? ;)
it is BS. POTC 2 will destroy SR's genitals. GUARANTEED.
Pickle-El
06-11-2006, 04:26 PM
Anyone got any news on Rebecca Romijn talking about X4 being ready to go at the MTV awards? Was she just talking out of her ***?
She and the interviewer were talking about the success of X3 so far, and she blurted out that X4 was a go....
phantom47
06-11-2006, 04:26 PM
anyone know how to post user reviews on rottentomatoes, i want to do one for X3
antariksh
06-11-2006, 04:27 PM
Anyone got any news on Rebecca Romijn talking about X4 being ready to go at the MTV awards? Was she just talking out of her ***?
She and the interviewer were talking about the success of X3 so far, and she blurted out that X4 was a go....
I guess so!!
phantom47
06-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Anyone got any news on Rebecca Romijn talking about X4 being ready to go at the MTV awards? Was she just talking out of her ***?
She and the interviewer were talking about the success of X3 so far, and she blurted out that X4 was a go....yeah i saw that interview she said they have something up their sleeve, i dont know if she meant spinoffs
antariksh
06-11-2006, 04:28 PM
anyone know how to post user reviews on rottentomatoes, i want to do one for X3
Do u want to write a good review or bad review. The score for X3 is already 73% and i don't want that to go down.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Anyone got any news on Rebecca Romijn talking about X4 being ready to go at the MTV awards? Was she just talking out of her ***?
She and the interviewer were talking about the success of X3 so far, and she blurted out that X4 was a go....
She didn't say it was ready to go - just that she thought X4 could happen.
phantom47
06-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Do u want to write a good review or bad review. The score for X3 is already 73% and i don't want that to go down.A good reviw 9/10 cause i loved it
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 04:36 PM
What thread am I in?
http://www.upcheer.com/images/funny_gifs/image005.gif
Fanticon
06-11-2006, 04:43 PM
that wasn't a review from joblo...that was a blurb on a less than favorable reaction to SR's. And I posted it because its directly related to how it will not effect X3's box office take...and may crash in comparison to what X3 stands to make in the coming weeks...so, you can take your off topic comments to the front of the line with me when Superman comes out because I've already bought my tickets for tuesday the 27th @ 10pm...thats off topic.
phantom47
06-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Ok i reviewed it 10/10
The Batman
06-11-2006, 04:59 PM
See. there is the mentality I refer to. I have no problem with either Superman or Batman. It's DC fanboys like this who make me dislike DC. And oh The Batman, did you catch my performance last year during FF's run ? There was and always will be only 1 The Thing 2005 on these boards, and you're looking right at him.
Oh yes...with your pathetic defense of Fantastic Four compared to BB, another case of marvel v dc stupidity.
And what mentality are you talking about? If you read the post it clearly indicates i find this marvel v dc thing incredibly moronic, stupid and a waste of time.
Loganbabe
06-11-2006, 04:59 PM
But what's more pathetic, really? When I don't like a movie, I move on...I don't post over and over again about how much everyone who did like it is apparently wrong, or thumb my nose at the box office numbers to *prove* it. :rolleyes:
I mean, honestly...this thread having it's share of box office cheerleaders is nothing compared to the number of Cyclops mourners constantly taking over every other thread. You guys think you're actually better because you didn't like the movie?
I did like the movie. They're not paying me like it. Yeah, I think if Fox had been smart and kept Bryan Singer around things would have worked out better...but what could have been a truly crap movie under the circumstances turned out to be surprisingly enjoyable one anyway, so it was worth the $7 I paid to see it.
And you know what? I'm very excited about both "Superman Returns" and "Pirates of the Carribbean." I plan to see both of those on their opening weekends (SR at the IMAX).
So no, it's not pathetic to be positive about the box office. It's certainly done well enough to keep the series going. And that's good news. :up:
*clap!* *clap!*:up: :up:
Very well said, danoyse! I agree with each one of your words!
Errr...except for the "Iīm excited about SR and PotC2" part...I wonīt watch those! :D
Pizzaboy1138
06-11-2006, 05:02 PM
http://www.upcheer.com/images/funny_gifs/image005.gif
Hypnotic like a lava lamp.
The Caped Knight
06-11-2006, 05:06 PM
X-Men Crosses the $200 Million Mark!
It is less than $14 million away from reaching the total gross of 2003's X2 X-Men United.
Congrats X3
I have no doubt it will reach & surpass X2 .
bittercarrot
06-11-2006, 05:12 PM
it will surpass x2, but i think fox will see this as proof that people don't care about quality... and they will continue to crap out brainless action fests......... maybe i was a bit harsh. x3 was ok, it was good, but not great, and i expected more..... but i am very excited for superman returns. i for one, am not a huge fan of superman, but i love singers' vision.
Loganbabe
06-11-2006, 05:17 PM
To be honest I don't understand much at BO numbers so when someone explains why it's doing bad I'm like 'wow it's doing bad' then someone say how it's doing well and again I'm impressed. At any rate, whenever I come here the same 3 guys are telling each other how well x-3 is doing.
And whatīs the problem with people coming here to say how much they like the movie, or to say how well the film is doing? Do you think itīs better or more valuable to come here only to cry over Cyke or to say X3 is crap?
To each his/her own, I guess. Like danoyse said, if I donīt like a movie I move on. I never felt destructive enough about anything to complain about it for the rest of my life.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 05:20 PM
^ I wish everyone was like that.
gambitfire
06-11-2006, 05:23 PM
And whatīs the problem with people coming here to say how much they like the movie, or to say how well the film is doing? Do you think itīs better or more valuable to come here only to cry over Cyke or to say X3 is crap?
To each his/her own, I guess. Like danoyse said, if I donīt like a movie I move on. I never felt destructive enough about anything to complain about it for the rest of my life.
:o Logan fan figures. :D
if i don't like a movie i move on.......................but not when it's X3 my favorite Comic books being adapted or slaughtered into a bad excuse for a trilogy ending. Beside that's what these boards are here for we can complain all we want as well as discuss all we want . :) if ppl keep responding then we keep whining, i used to not care but ppl keep responding. :p
I didn't cry over Cyclops but ill tell you this.....X3 is crap :)
antariksh
06-11-2006, 05:44 PM
Ok i reviewed it 10/10
GREAT so did the user review increase.
Hiruu
06-11-2006, 05:53 PM
Nice drop, and nice numbers, equate to a very solid performance by XIII to close out the series...Onto Wolverine and Magneto!
Angamb
06-11-2006, 05:58 PM
it will surpass x2, but i think fox will see this as proof that people don't care about quality... and they will continue to crap out brainless action fests......... maybe i was a bit harsh. x3 was ok, it was good, but not great, and i expected more.....
I think the same and I'm afraid of this too. I hope Fox will try their best next time, with more time, more good and better decisions and more money.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 07:26 PM
Is any one here registered to hollywoodreporter.com
they have an overseas article where DA VINCI CODE dominated 4th week in a row and did $22 million meaning X3 was KILLED by world cup.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 07:36 PM
Can't be much under that. Made 15 million? Who knows. Things pick up next week with 3 new terrirories, and then again in Sept w/Japan.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 07:42 PM
Can't be much under that. Made 15 million? Who knows. Things pick up next week with 3 new terrirories, and then again in Sept w/Japan.
Buddy i am guessing X3 did around $7-9 million.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 07:43 PM
Can't be much under that. Made 15 million? Who knows. Things pick up next week with 3 new terrirories, and then again in Sept w/Japan.
Buddy i am guessing X3 did around $7-9 million this weekend
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 07:45 PM
That would be weak considering it made 7 million mon-thur in international markets. I guess we could look back and compare the mon-thur to the weekend totals to estimate.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 07:46 PM
That would be weak considering it made 7 million mon-thur in international markets. I guess we could look back and compare the mon-thur to the weekend totals to estimate.
I am saying that because WORLD CUP might have KILLED it.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Maybe. Too bad since soccer is such a boring ass Sport to me but the folks overseas love it. I'd rather have razor blades shave the moist flesh under my toenails before I watched a game of soccer on TV.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 07:50 PM
Maybe. Too bad since soccer is such a boring ass Sport to me but the folks overseas love it. I'd rather have razor blades shave the moist flesh under my toenails before I watched a game of soccer on TV.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
phantom47
06-11-2006, 07:52 PM
im hoping anywhere b/w 14-19, but next week will get a boost from the two markets its going to open in
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 07:58 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Sorry but I can watch Golf, Tennis, Basketball, and American Football till I fall asleep from exhaustian. Hockey and Soccer...in particular soccer is just boring. The fans try to make it exciting by stabbing or trampling each other, starting brawls, and screaming but in reality it's just overcompensation from my point of view.
JokerNick
06-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Sorry but I can watch Golf, Tennis, Basketball, and American Football till I fall asleep from exhaustian. Hockey and Soccer...in particular soccer is just boring. The fans try to make it exciting by stabbing or trampling each other, starting brawls, and screaming but in reality it's just overcompensation from my point of view.
wow!!! that's ****ed up, one thing I 100% agree with you on
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 08:03 PM
Please do not feed the trolls.
Thank you,
SHH Zoo
JokerNick
06-11-2006, 08:04 PM
Please do not feed the trolls.
Thank you,
SHH Zoo
I fed your mom at tehe zoo, MY COCK, lol, just call me dad
Loganbabe
06-11-2006, 08:12 PM
:o Logan fan figures. :D
Oh, I see...nowadays itīs considered "wrong" to be a Logan fan. We are all supposed to be Cykeīs widows, and come here only to mourn and complain how much Fox destroyed our lifes. Yeah, Logan fans should be ostracized...:o
I didn't cry over Cyclops but ill tell you this.....X3 is crap :)
No itīs not. But if it makes you happy to say so, well, enjoy yourself.
If I had hated the movie, Iīd prefer not to waste my time coming to a board only to complain and attack people who actually enjoyed it, but maybe itīs just me.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 08:14 PM
Why is it so unpopular amongst fan boys to like the characters that are most popular. Wolverine/Logan is popular for a reason...he's a great character. No need to make it any more complicated than that.
antariksh
06-11-2006, 08:22 PM
Fox International's The Omen ruled the weekend but it packed less of a punch than expected due to the World Cup and scorching weather in Europe.
The satanic tale grossed an estimated $31.1m on 4,783 screens for the Tuesday to Sunday period, approximately $13m of that coming from pre-weekend figures.
The launch in more than 60 territories produced 10 number one debuts according to early estimates, led by Mexico's $4.1m opening on 580 screens and $4m in the UK on 343.
In other highlights, The Omen launched in Russia on $3m on 340 for a provisional number one. Number two openings included $2.1m in Spain on 280, $1.5m in South Korea on 120, $1.2m in Italy on 374, and $1.1m in Germany on 313.
It also grossed $1.1m in France on 280 and launched in Australia on $982,000 on 144 in sixth place.
X-Men: The Last Stand added $12.8m on more than 6,900 screens in a third weekend haul that raised the international running total to $160.1m.
The action picture stayed top for the third consecutive weekend in Brazil on $1m for $8.7m, and added $1.7m in the UK for $29.6m. Australia generated $1.1m for $10.3m, Spain produced $1.3m for $10.1m, France produced $1.1m for $17.7m, and Mexico generated $1.3m for an unconfirmed running total.
Ice Age: The Meltdown opened in China on $997,000 on 550 screens and has now amassed more than $441m internationally.
Sony Pictures Releasing International (SPRI) reported a $22m weekend for The Da Vinci Code on 9,600 screens in 84 markets. Weekend business consolidated the picture's position as the company's biggest international release in history and raised the running total to $453.2m.
In fourth weekend holds The Da Vinci Code stayed top in Japan and Spain for $4.6m on 764 screens for $56.1m and $2m on 391 for $28.2m respectively. It also remained number one in Germany on $1.4m on 1,146 for $1.6m, and Italy on $1.2m on 808 for $34.3m.
The comedy RV grossed $1.5m on 707 in 12 markets for an early $2.9m cumulative tally. It opened sixth in the UK on $575,000 on 250, and fifth in Mexico on $280,000 on 150.
Poseidon added $10.3m and approximately 1.5million admissions on more than 3,300 prints in 24 countries for a $56m international tally.
South Korea produced $2.4m on 252 prints to stay top in its second weekend for an $11.6m running total. Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong stand at $6m, $4m and $1.3m respectively. Mexico has amassed $5.1m, the UK stands at $4.4m, and Italy stands at $3.2m.
Cars launched through Buena Vista International (BVI) in six markets and took $5.4m on 468 screens in six territories, the third best opening for a Pixar title in the same territories behind Finding Nemo and The Incredibles.
Every territory opened number one. Australia produced $3.3m on 265 screens, while Singapore took $510,000 on 50, New Zealand took $460,000 on 45, Malaysia grossed $420,000 on 50 for the biggest Pixar opening of all time. Taiwan grossed $400,000 on 16 and the Philippines opened on $325,000 on 40.
Scary Movie 4 added $1.3m on 685 international screens for BVI, raising the cumulative tally to $68m, and The Wild added $1.2m for $46m.
Paramount's Mission: Impossible 3 crossed $200m as it added $3.6m from 2,900 sites through UIP to raise the international tally to $200.7m.
India opened on $630,00 in 200 sites. Latest figures put South Korea on $36.3m, the UK on $28.5m, France on $14.6m, and Germany on $10.2m. M:I:3 is yet to open in Japan and China.
Over The Hedge grossed an estimated $3.4m from 911 locations in 12 territories, bringing the tally to $14.1m.
Universal's US hit comedy The Break-Up kicked off its international career with a strong $2m debut on 182 sites in Australia that ranked second, and $208,000 in New Zealand on 48.
United 93 is active in four European territories and took a hit from the combined World Cup/heatwave effect. It has amassed $4.7m after two international weekends and stands at $2.5m in the UK, $1.5m in Germany, $430,000 in Austria and $180 in Switzerland.
Inside Man added $1.1m in 500 venues in 21 territories for $89.3m, powered by an $825,000 opening in Japan in 197 sites.
X3 did $12.8 million overseas this weekend which is FINE. But it dropped more than it did second weekend because of WORLD CUP.
TOTAL WORLDWIDE: $361 million depending if this weekends domestic numbers remain the same when actuals come out tommorrow.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 08:24 PM
Why would scorching weather prevent people from going into a dark cool theatre?
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 08:43 PM
Why would scorching weather prevent people from going into a dark cool theatre?
Scorching hot weather is pretty rare in some parts of Europe, so when it comes people prefer to take advantage of it and go to the beach or the country, rather than go to a movie.
phantom47
06-11-2006, 08:46 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mFviP92Na0w&search=x%3Dmen%203
when magneto says will you join my brotherhood and fight
i wanted to know if that was in the movie cause i cant remember if he said that
Loganbabe
06-11-2006, 08:47 PM
Yay Brazil! I knew the movie was big here, but not that big! 8.7m is amazing...and on a World Cup year! :D:up:
But I expect it to drop as soon as Brazil starts playing next week... :(
lordofthenerds
06-11-2006, 08:47 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mFviP92Na0w&search=x%3Dmen%203
when magneto says will you join my brotherhood and fight
i wanted to know if that was in the movie cause i cant remember if he said that
Neither can I. It was probably cut.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 08:55 PM
Fox International's The Omen ruled the weekend but it packed less of a punch than expected due to the World Cup and scorching weather in Europe.
The satanic tale grossed an estimated $31.1m on 4,783 screens for the Tuesday to Sunday period, approximately $13m of that coming from pre-weekend figures.
The launch in more than 60 territories produced 10 number one debuts according to early estimates, led by Mexico's $4.1m opening on 580 screens and $4m in the UK on 343.
In other highlights, The Omen launched in Russia on $3m on 340 for a provisional number one. Number two openings included $2.1m in Spain on 280, $1.5m in South Korea on 120, $1.2m in Italy on 374, and $1.1m in Germany on 313.
It also grossed $1.1m in France on 280 and launched in Australia on $982,000 on 144 in sixth place.
X-Men: The Last Stand added $12.8m on more than 6,900 screens in a third weekend haul that raised the international running total to $160.1m.
The action picture stayed top for the third consecutive weekend in Brazil on $1m for $8.7m, and added $1.7m in the UK for $29.6m. Australia generated $1.1m for $10.3m, Spain produced $1.3m for $10.1m, France produced $1.1m for $17.7m, and Mexico generated $1.3m for an unconfirmed running total.
Ice Age: The Meltdown opened in China on $997,000 on 550 screens and has now amassed more than $441m internationally.
Sony Pictures Releasing International (SPRI) reported a $22m weekend for The Da Vinci Code on 9,600 screens in 84 markets. Weekend business consolidated the picture's position as the company's biggest international release in history and raised the running total to $453.2m.
In fourth weekend holds The Da Vinci Code stayed top in Japan and Spain for $4.6m on 764 screens for $56.1m and $2m on 391 for $28.2m respectively. It also remained number one in Germany on $1.4m on 1,146 for $1.6m, and Italy on $1.2m on 808 for $34.3m.
The comedy RV grossed $1.5m on 707 in 12 markets for an early $2.9m cumulative tally. It opened sixth in the UK on $575,000 on 250, and fifth in Mexico on $280,000 on 150.
Poseidon added $10.3m and approximately 1.5million admissions on more than 3,300 prints in 24 countries for a $56m international tally.
South Korea produced $2.4m on 252 prints to stay top in its second weekend for an $11.6m running total. Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong stand at $6m, $4m and $1.3m respectively. Mexico has amassed $5.1m, the UK stands at $4.4m, and Italy stands at $3.2m.
Cars launched through Buena Vista International (BVI) in six markets and took $5.4m on 468 screens in six territories, the third best opening for a Pixar title in the same territories behind Finding Nemo and The Incredibles.
Every territory opened number one. Australia produced $3.3m on 265 screens, while Singapore took $510,000 on 50, New Zealand took $460,000 on 45, Malaysia grossed $420,000 on 50 for the biggest Pixar opening of all time. Taiwan grossed $400,000 on 16 and the Philippines opened on $325,000 on 40.
Scary Movie 4 added $1.3m on 685 international screens for BVI, raising the cumulative tally to $68m, and The Wild added $1.2m for $46m.
Paramount's Mission: Impossible 3 crossed $200m as it added $3.6m from 2,900 sites through UIP to raise the international tally to $200.7m.
India opened on $630,00 in 200 sites. Latest figures put South Korea on $36.3m, the UK on $28.5m, France on $14.6m, and Germany on $10.2m. M:I:3 is yet to open in Japan and China.
Over The Hedge grossed an estimated $3.4m from 911 locations in 12 territories, bringing the tally to $14.1m.
Universal's US hit comedy The Break-Up kicked off its international career with a strong $2m debut on 182 sites in Australia that ranked second, and $208,000 in New Zealand on 48.
United 93 is active in four European territories and took a hit from the combined World Cup/heatwave effect. It has amassed $4.7m after two international weekends and stands at $2.5m in the UK, $1.5m in Germany, $430,000 in Austria and $180 in Switzerland.
Inside Man added $1.1m in 500 venues in 21 territories for $89.3m, powered by an $825,000 opening in Japan in 197 sites.
X3 did $12.8 million overseas this weekend which is FINE. But it dropped more than it did second weekend because of WORLD CUP.
TOTAL WORLDWIDE: $361 million depending if this weekends domestic numbers remain the same when actuals come out tommorrow.
I knew 6-7 million was low. Next week should be a strong weekend.
Hockey and Soccer...in particular soccer is just boring.
Hockey used to be a great spectator sport until the NHL commissioner turned it in to soccer on ice about a decade ago. Sad but true.
Carp Man
06-11-2006, 10:21 PM
X-Men: The Last Stand added $12.8m on more than 6,900 screens in a third weekend haul that raised the international running total to $160.1m.
Updated my #'s to reflect this total. :) When the real #'s come out, I will update again.
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 10:23 PM
^ That's posted above a few times.
imaperson2
06-11-2006, 10:25 PM
so x-men is the highest grossing movie of the year so far right?
Advanced Dark
06-11-2006, 10:28 PM
Yep but it won't keep that title for long. Still it's in the top 3 by the end of the year. I think Superman has a good chance of racking up huge #'s the first week, and 2nd week before pirates but if Supes doesn't reach 200 million by Pirates it could be in deep trouble. Pirates should easily win the top spot this year because nothing big comes after it. Open water.
GL's Light
06-11-2006, 10:40 PM
so x-men is the highest grossing movie of the year so far right?
In domestic box office, yes. In worldwide box office it's currently the third highest grossing of the year.
danoyse
06-11-2006, 10:54 PM
Maybe. Too bad since soccer is such a boring ass Sport to me but the folks overseas love it. I'd rather have razor blades shave the moist flesh under my toenails before I watched a game of soccer on TV.
LOL...I'm really only into baseball, and I took my friend's 7-year-old to his very first Yankee game yesterday. We've been planning it for months, he was SO excited. Then they lost 5-2. :mad:
I wish we'd been at the movies yesterday!!
TNC9852002
06-11-2006, 10:55 PM
whoever said X3 will be in X2 range is wrong it's already at 200 mil and is about to pass X2!!!
X2's adjusted gross would probably be around 237m (compared to 2003's 214m)...Will X3 get up there?
-TNC
danoyse
06-11-2006, 11:11 PM
:o Logan fan figures. :D
Yep. We're getting a spinoff and you're not. :p
X-men has done great, but I wanted another x-men movie rather than a spinoff
Loganbabe
06-12-2006, 12:10 AM
Yep. We're getting a spinoff and you're not. :p
Hehe! :p :D
imaperson2
06-12-2006, 12:12 AM
X-men has done great, but I wanted another x-men movie rather than a spinoff
i 2nd that one.
gambitfire
06-12-2006, 12:36 AM
Oh, I see...nowadays itīs considered "wrong" to be a Logan fan. We are all supposed to be Cykeīs widows, and come here only to mourn and complain how much Fox destroyed our lifes. Yeah, Logan fans should be ostracized...:o
No itīs not. But if it makes you happy to say so, well, enjoy yourself.
If I had hated the movie, Iīd prefer not to waste my time coming to a board only to complain and attack people who actually enjoyed it, but maybe itīs just me.
Again i didn't cry over Cyke the movie had many reasons for why it was crap but once more i say to you the movie was crap :) go on respond......:D
Yep. We're getting a spinoff and you're not. :p
Logan fan figures :o :)
good luck with that spinoff hopefully it won't bomb and it may just be mediocre if we'r lucky. :cool:
tkenji69
06-12-2006, 01:11 AM
X2's adjusted gross would probably be around 237m (compared to 2003's 214m)...Will X3 get up there?
-TNC
Whats this adjusted gross for X2???? Does this mean that its production costs should also be adjusted upwards...how about the marketing costs... if we compare lets compare equally.:confused:
skruloos
06-12-2006, 01:39 AM
Whats this adjusted gross for X2???? Does this mean that its production costs should also be adjusted upwards...how about the marketing costs... if we compare lets compare equally.:confused:
No. Because this comparison has nothing to do with profit for the studio, in which case the production and marketing costs would be factored in. This is simply a comparison on box office performance.
obeastdyke
06-12-2006, 01:47 AM
It still has South Korea, Taiwan, China, and Japan to open to all big markets
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