X3 Box Office Tracker

[danoyse]

Can we please go back to box office tracking???

[GL's Light]

Evidence? Your turn. :)
It was info provided by David Poland, a journalist who covers the entertainment industry and runs Movie City News. It was on his Hot Blog website. It'd be embedded in the comments section of one of his posts, since it was in response to a reader question, but there's no way in hell I'm reading through that many archives to find the link. Take the info, or leave it, as you wish. It's no biggie. :)

[Downhere]

So back to box office tracking...how about that huge drop?

[spideyboy_1111]

well i dont think bad reviews had much to do with it.. i think those who wanted to see it, saw it the first week... and those who didnt would rather put $10 in there gas tank, and wait for it to come out on video

[Lightning Strykez!]

Whew...look at all those depleted post counts! :cool:

As I mentioned up-thread, let's get back on topic.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Just put Kurosawa on ignore like I did a long time ago guys. He is just always looking to piss people off I guess.

[GL's Light]

Evidence? Your turn. :)
Hmm, some of the thread just disappeared. First time I've seen that happen.

The evidence on the Hot Blog wasn't so hard to find after all. Here you go:

ED... there is no more 90/10. 80/20. 70/30... that quietly ended years ago. It's 55% flat to studios.

Here's the link, but you'll have to do some reading and scrolling to find it (it's the 10th comment): http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2006/05/weekend_ouchsti.html#comments

Told ya!

[Downhere]

Well, personally, I feel that Saturday it will probably rise to around 15 million and then for Sunday get about the same as yesterday...10.4.

I was checking out the dailies from the same weekend last year and most movies had about the same or more business on Sunday than Friday (Madagascar, SW, and a couple of others) so it should score a 35 million dollar weekend. That's my personal guestimate.

[Kurosawa]

Whew...look at all those depleted post counts! :cool:

As I mentioned up-thread, let's get back on topic.

I was simply answering a question.

I do think this movie's downward spiral at the B.O. is tied into how it spits on the comics. And I think that's a good thing.

[spideyboy_1111]

I was simply answering a question.

I do think this movie's downward spiral at the B.O. is tied into how it spits on the comics. And I think that's a good thing.
dude what are you smoking? do you even read comics anymore? X3 felt more like the comics then X1 or X2 did.. the spirit was very strong with this one...

[Kurosawa]

dude what are you smoking? do you even read comics anymore? X3 felt more like the comics then X1 or X2 did.. the spirit was very strong with this one...

I've been reading the comics since probably before you were born.

Although I gave up on the X-titles some time back. Too much damn Wolverine for my tastes. And the whole Scott and Emma thing was way too out of character for me to take.

[GL's Light]

A second weekend will usually see a 30-40% increase on Saturday, and then a 30-40% decrease on Sunday. Kids films like Madagascar can go up by more than that on Saturday, and drop by less on Sunday, since more families go to the movies on those two days than on Friday night.

I'd say we're looking at a Saturday of $ 13-14 million, and a Sunday of around $ 10 million, for a weekend total of $ 33-34 million.

[spideyboy_1111]

I've been reading the comics since probably before you were born.

Although I gave up on the X-titles some time back. Too much damn Wolverine for my tastes. And the whole Scott and Emma thing was way too out of character for me to take.
well in my eyes X3 was very true to the comics of today.. esp Whedon's feel to it..

X3 to me was a mix of Astonishings "gifted", New X-men's "Planet X", "Phoenix:endsong", and the phoenix/dark phoenix saga....

[Downhere]

A second weekend will usually see a 30-40% increase on Saturday, and then a 30-40% decrease on Sunday. Kids films like Madagascar can go up by more than that on Saturday, and drop by less on Sunday, since more families go to the movies on those two days than on Friday night.

I'd say we're looking at a Saturday of $ 13-14 million, and a Sunday of around $ 10 million, for a weekend total of $ 33-34 million.

I think it's possible it could go up a bit more on Saturday, but 13-14 million is a safer bet.

[Tony Stark]

I had a thread going saying, I kinda hoped this film would tank, and while this film will ultimately be profitable for the studio, I think you can see that the general public does not like this movie at all.

They rushed to the theaters to see what they hoped would be a great movie, and saw a train wreck.

What's funny is that the non-comic book fans seem to be reacting the strongest based on these results.

[Downhere]

I had a thread going saying, I kinda hoped this film would tank, and while this film will ultimately be profitable for the studio, I think you can see that the general public does not like this movie at all.

They rushed to the theaters to see what they hoped would be a great movie, and saw a train wreck.

What's funny is that the non-comic book fans seem to be reacting the strongest based on these results.

*sighs* The X-Men films have always been frontloaded, the same thing would have happened if Singer directed.

[Nivek]

Man, a date movie like the Break-up took over the number#1 spot? I thought it would drop some box office, but damn...!

[Kurosawa]

well in my eyes X3 was very true to the comics of today.. esp Whedon's feel to it..

X3 to me was a mix of Astonishings "gifted", New X-men's "Planet X", "Phoenix:endsong", and the phoenix/dark phoenix saga....

Today's comics are piss-poor and shallow then.

Actually I flip through some of the X-titles, and i'm generally not impressed. I haven't cared for the books since Scott Lobdell left.

[spideyboy_1111]

Today's comics are piss-poor and shallow then.

Actually I flip through some of the X-titles, and i'm generally not impressed. I haven't cared for the books since Scott Lobdell left.
then your one in a few.. because general consinous loves astonishing ... :o

[BMM]

Yeah, but Astonishing is one title though.

[dd boi]

I just checked Box Office Mojo, X3 made around $102 mill opening weekend and this week its made another $50 mill, its now around the $150 mark..........where is this huge drop your all talking about?

[BMM]

I just checked Box Office Mojo, X3 made around $102 mill opening weekend and this week its made another $50 mill, its now around the $150 mark..........where is this huge drop your all talking about?

People are referring to this Friday in which it made about $10 million.

[Retroman]

X3 came in a number 2 here in holland.

http://www.filmfocus.nl/films/list.php?type=4&PHPSESSID=b465a177d8a13b0778eb4daa0f5a874a

I saw a tv spot last night and was suprised how it revealed. They showed quick glimpses of Phoenix lifting the water around Alcatraz.

[ultimatefan]

How do you know it isn't 200 + 50 Million marketing for SR? I mean, you're playing the 'BOM is counting marketing' Card......right? That's how you guys are getting 210 total....
To me that´s merely X-fans building up a theory to make the movie sound more profitable. This "BOM combines the costs" thing is bull.

A) King Kong is mentioned at BOM as having a "production budget" (it only says production, not marketing) of 210m. The movie is quoted as one of the top two or three most expensive ever. If it had a production budget of 160m and the rest was marketing, people wouldn´t say it.
B) V For Vendetta is listed with a "production budget" of 54m, if a big part of it was marketing, it´s production would have cost at best 30m, which is way too little for a movie of its size and scope.
C) In fact, BOM used to show both production and marketing costs a while ago. Then some studios started not to tell the marketing cost and that part would go blank in the costs list, but most movies still had both, so the movie would be listed with the production cost and the marketing cost was mentioned as "non-available". Now no studios reveal the marketing cost - and in some movies these days, not even the production budget - and that part was simply eliminated.
D) It would be very incompetent and inaccurate of the site to list the combined production and marketing budgets only as "production budget", because at least a while ago, production budget meant only production budget, the combination should have been informed and be on the listing.
E) The cost of XM TLS is listed on the site as "production budget" as is the one for King Kong. This "combination" theory doesn´t hold any water.

[antariksh]

It's dropping for the most basic of reasons-it sucks. There's only so many mindless Wolverine fans out there. Not enough to sustain any sort of signifigant box office.

Guess he isn't #1 after all.

Kurosawa get the hell out of here because i swear if superman doesn't make back its $250 million prodution budget +marketing budget at domestic boxoffice, I will make fun of superman.

And btw i don't like you being on these boards. Go to superman boards. You belong there not here.

[GL's Light]

I don't think BOM is combining production budgets and marketing budgets, but everyone should bear in mind that the budget figures we see are usually media estimates. At $ 210 million, BOM has the highest budget estimate for X3 that I've seen. I've seen it estimated at $ 200 million, and quite a few times at $ 165 million.

[antariksh]

I was asked about X3 tonight. After thoroughly blasting the movie, I managed to convince 3 people not to see it.

My good deed for the day.

You are a curse for x-men.

Because of guys like you x3 is having trouble.

I swear if i meet u in person i would have put some senses into you.

[GL's Light]

Kurosawa get the hell out of here because i swear if superman doesn't make back its $250 million prodution budget +marketing budget at domestic boxoffice, I will make fun of superman.

Films aren't expected to make their production and marketing budgets back from domestic box office alone. That's not the way Hollywood's business model works these days. If Superman Returns hits $ 250 million domestic that will put it on track to be a success, and to get a sequel greenlit, when all other revenue streams are factored in.

And please let's not have any childish pissing matches between X3 and SR. It's in the interests of those of us we love the superhero film genre to see both DC and Marvel films succeed at the box office.

[antariksh]

Films aren't expected to make their production and marketing budgets back from domestic box office alone. That's not the way Hollywood's business model works these days. If Superman Returns hits $ 250 million domestic that will put it on track to be a success, and to get a sequel greenlit, when all other revenue streams are factored in.

And please let's not have any childish pissing matches between X3 and SR. It's in the interests of those of us we love the superhero film genre to see both DC and Marvel films succeed at the box office.

OH YA. Superman returns costed $250 million TO MAKE. So if it does ONLY $250 million at domestic boxoffice then that is ****ty.

**** DC

[kakashi]

^^ couldn't agree more. I'm more of a X-Men fan myself and i can't wait for SR.

And please people, take it easy on Kurosawa. He's the reason that it's fun to read the posts on the X-MEN forum again. Don't make him leave.

After all...every village needs an idiot, right?

[antariksh]

^^ couldn't agree more. I'm more of a X-Men fan myself and i can't wait for SR.

And please people, take it easy on Kurosawa. He's the reason that it's fun to read the posts on the X-MEN forum again. Don't make him leave.

After all...every village needs an idiot, right?

LOL ya he is an idiot as well as a BLOOD SUCKER. I wonder how his parents tolerate him.

[Aiden]

LOL ya he is an idiot as well as a BLOOD SUCKER. I wonder how his parents tolerate him.Isn't he in his late 30's?

[ultimatefan]

OH YA. Superman returns costed $250 million TO MAKE. So if it does ONLY $250 million at domestic boxoffice then that is ****ty.

**** DC
According to Bryan Singer SR´s production budget is 184m. And he´s right, if this movie makes 250m domestic, it will be considered a hit. Don´t forget there´s also overseas BO, DVDs, merchandise, TV deals, etc. A movie makes about a quarter of the total revenue on box office. So I believe SR will be very profitable and yes, so will X3, what I´m saying is if the movie keeps dropping high, with the opening it had, it will be considered not as successful as it could have been and a movie with no legs, just that.

[antariksh]

According to Bryan Singer SR´s production budget is 184m. And he´s right, if this movie makes 250m domestic, it will be considered a hit. Don´t forget there´s also overseas BO, DVDs, merchandise, TV deals, etc. A movie makes about a quarter of the total revenue on box office. So I believe SR will be very profitable and yes, so will X3, what I´m saying is if the movie keeps dropping high, with the opening it had, it will be considered not as successful as it could have been and a movie with no legs, just that.

NO i disagree the budget for the movie is $250 million.

I mean this way X3 budget is $165 million as it says on several websites except boxofficemojo.com

I think JUST because boxofficemojo.com says it is $210 it doesn't become one.

[FaT_tONle]

Isn't he in his late 30's?

Kurosawa = ***.... i tell him off the other day and he leaves me like ten messages saying "Eat a dick" when clearly he is the one infatuated with Cyclops

[ultimatefan]

NO i disagree the budget for the movie is $250 million.

I mean this way X3 budget is $165 million as it says on several websites except boxofficemojo.com

I think JUST because boxofficemojo.com says it is $210 it doesn't become one.
Well, you disagreeing doesn´t mean anything. What´s your source. BOM is the most used and reliable source for box office and movie cost information.

[antariksh]

Well, you disagreeing doesn´t mean anything. What´s your source. BOM is the most used and reliable source for box office and movie cost information.

OK buddy let us wait till superman's budget is posted on boxofficemojo.com

BUT i still belive it has $250 million budget :o

[ultimatefan]

OK buddy let us wait till superman's budget is posted on boxofficemojo.com

BUT i still belive it has $250 million budget :o
Fine. Even if it, if the movie is a huge success it won´t matter. My gut feeling is it will be. We´ll see come June 28.

[GL's Light]

OK buddy let us wait till superman's budget is posted on boxofficemojo.com

BUT i still belive it has $250 million budget :o
$ 250 million includes the costs from the failed Tim Burton/McG attempts. The budget Singer got was $ 184 million. A lot of media outlets, including BOM, will likely list the $ 250 million figure.

[ultimatefan]

$ 250 million includes the costs from the failed Tim Burton/McG attempts. The budget Singer got was $ 184 million. A lot of media outlets, including BOM, will likely list the $ 250 million figure.
The false starts have been accounted by the studio already, they were part of their budget for previous years. It´s not supposed to be accounted into the production budget of this version.

[antariksh]

$ 250 million includes the costs from the failed Tim Burton/McG attempts. The budget Singer got was $ 184 million. A lot of media outlets, including BOM, will likely list the $ 250 million figure.

Well there you go.

All that money they have spent on it for years counts.

[ultimatefan]

Well there you go.

All that money they have spent on it for years counts.
It doesn´t, because the studio has already balanced it out with the profits from other movies. What goes into SR is what counts.

[THOR]

260M is the actual budget of SR....this does not count the Burton/McG/Peterson false starts. It does include a melt down by the director and a work stoppage of 5 weeks however!:eek: That adds up pretty quickly, as does numerous other delays in the production and shooting of this film. I hope it is a great movie, but the reports I have heard from people on the set have left me with little confidence. But I will be there opening weekend with fingers crossed for a great :supes: movie.

[GL's Light]

Even if Singer blew the budget up to $ 260 million, we'll likely still get a sequel if the film makes at least $ 500 million worldwide. But Warners may want another director who can make the sequel with a steadier hand and bring it in on a more reasonable budget.

[antariksh]

X3 saturday number according to showbizdata.com is $14.2 million.

http://www.showbizdata.com/dailybox.cfm

that is a GOOD increase!!!

i hope it can do another $11-12 million on sunday.

[GL's Light]

That's a good increase. Which is a relief. It should be a Saturday increase of 35-40%, depending on what the actuals turn out to be. Sunday will likely decline by at least a third, or maybe a quarter if we're lucky, which means a $ 9.5-10.5 million take, for a total weekend of $ 34-35 million. That's a drop of 66-67%.

The weekend estimate should be up soon.

[Milkman95]

Well, the estimate is $34.4m, which is disappointing. That's about a 65% decrease.....hopefully the estimate is a bit low.

[antariksh]

Weekend estimate according to boxofficemojo is $34,350,000.

http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=22&p=.htm

I am personally hoping the movie does another $11-12 million on sunday because today the weather is GREAT and i have usually seen that all FOX movies do good when the weather is good.

Last year F4 did $22 million on its second weekend. $6+ million on friday, $8+ million on saturday and $7+ million on sunday.

If F4 can have a slight drop on sunday compared to saturday, then I can atleast hope X3 can do atleast $11-12 million on sunday.

I just don't want it be LESS when the actuals come out on monday.
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BTW guys did u realise something about X3 second weekend drop.

It is 66.6% drop from last weekend.

Holy **** DAMIEN is coming.

[Milkman95]

It might be close - I know The Break Up did around $13.7 on Friday while X3 did $10.2 or so.

[GL's Light]

BOM estimate: $ 34,350,000 (66.6% drop), for $ 175.68 million domestic so far.

Fri: $ 10.2 million
Sat: $ 14.125 million
Sun: $ 10.025 million

[Milkman95]

Well, with CARS coming out June 9th, X3 is going to struggle to hit $250m, which is disappointing because that's where I wanted it to be.

[Carp Man]

Well, with CARS coming out June 9th, X3 is going to struggle to hit $250m, which is disappointing because that's where I wanted it to be.

Did you vote in the poll of what you think X-Men will do in worldwide boxoffice ? I'm sure you have some insightful thoughts.

[invincible mann]

well a few days ago wernt some people predicting 77 percent or something like that?
this is much better then that

[Pickle-El]

Even if Singer blew the budget up to $ 260 million, we'll likely still get a sequel if the film makes at least $ 500 million worldwide. But Warners may want another director who can make the sequel with a steadier hand and bring it in on a more reasonable budget.


There was an MSN article on Friday.....all it needs to break even is a total of 400 Million WW. The rest is all profit, and very do-able.

I'm a little surprised X3 didn't crack 40 Million this weekend.....My original estimate was around 250 Domestic and 500 WW. I think it could still come pretty close to those numbers when it's all said and done.

[Hiruu]

Riddiculous! Chicken little was running around this board about the falling sky....aka...Fantastic Four, and the movie delivered a solid effort, WHICH was all that was needed after the stunning opener. The movie is well ontrack for $250 million domestically, but the key win hopefully comes from the Intl B.O. with $250-300 million, which would really fast track Wolverine, and provided a ton of confidence for FOX in Fantastic Four II. Nice weekend, and We'll probably see 50% drops over the next weeks for a cruise into $250 mil.

[Hiruu]

Just put Kurosawa on ignore like I did a long time ago guys. He is just always looking to piss people off I guess.

He made some "brillant" predictions about Fantastic Four last year. ROFLOL!!!!

[antariksh]

He made some "brillant" predictions about Fantastic Four last year. ROFLOL!!!!

What were those foolish's prediction for F4 last year?

[GL's Light]

My original estimate was around 250 Domestic and 500 WW. I think it could still come pretty close to those numbers when it's all said and done.
My original estimate based on the opening weekend was around $ 255 million domestic and $ 470-500 million worldwide. If the third and fourth weekend drops stabilize to below 50%, it might still have a shot at $ 250 million domestic. At least $ 450 million worldwide still looks likely.

[BigMac]

Can I now say I told you so? The film tanked. 66 % drop. All of us went to see it thinking it would be great, then the word got out. Unfortunitly, the studio is going to make money, so they won't care. Ratner is golden, and the X franchise is toast.

[phantom47]

Can I now say I told you so? The film tanked. 66 % drop. All of us went to see it thinking it would be great, then the word got out. Unfortunitly, the studio is going to make money, so they won't care. Ratner is golden, and the X franchise is toast.All im going to say is that a number in the 60s was expected after a huge holiday opening like that....just wait til next week, it will stablize to 50% or less

[Ita-KalEl]

Even if Singer blew the budget up to $ 260 million, we'll likely still get a sequel if the film makes at least $ 500 million worldwide. But Warners may want another director who can make the sequel with a steadier hand and bring it in on a more reasonable budget.

Impossible. If iSR s a great success and a good film only ad idiot would change the director. If WB give Singer that budget, it is only because they believe in Singer's vision. Singer already has in his mind the sequel...he needs only a vacation and then he will work on the next Superman movie.

[bosef982]

I'm sure people are goign to rationalize this 66% drop -- they did it with F4. here's the argument:

X3 exhausted its consumer base in the first weekend, so you can't expect the film to continue doing well aftewards. It's already sapped up its ticket-buying base.

However, this is false since many great movies have had massive openings and continued to dominate after the fact -- nevermind be bumped off the top spot by a second-tier redux romantic comedy like The Break-Up.

So yes, I think these numbers do insinuate that word got out that this film is not as GOOD as it was made out to be. Plain and simple. People got overly excited on these boards and decided to run around declaring it a raving and ranting success. Now, as we've seen, X3 blew its load early, the road was nearly evenly divided on who liked what they got, and now its showing -- the watercooler FX.

Sixty-six percent drop is no "write it off" type of thing. This film has a poor "Rotten" Tomoato rating and a 66 percent drop...

How long will fans continue to say that this film did well...?

[antariksh]

OH man like i predicted the entire media is now tearing X3 apart.

CRAP!!

Now i hope the actuals are the same or more but NOT less.

And from monday i am hoping X3 can do in $3's million for the entire week.

[Advanced Dark]

Title Daily Total
Break-Up, The 15.0 30.8
X-Men: The Last Stand 14.2 165.7
Over the Hedge 8.6 105.7
Da Vinci Code, The 7.8 166.4
Mission: Impossible 3 - MI3 2.0 121.1

Nice bump up on Saturday for X3. Easy to break 30 million now.

http://www.showbizdata.com

[Advanced Dark]

BOM estimate: $ 34,350,000 (66.6% drop), for $ 175.68 million domestic so far.

Fri: $ 10.2 million
Sat: $ 14.125 million
Sun: $ 10.025 million

Wow didn't see that one. 10 million on Sunday is the same as Friday? That's real good.

[Optic Rage]

How much did x2 make in the us and worldwide?

[GL's Light]

How much did x2 make in the us and worldwide?
$ 214.949 million domestic + $ 192.607 million international = $ 407.557 million worldwide.

[CapBeerCino]

Do we know how tDC do this weekend?

[GL's Light]

Do we know how tDC do this weekend?
$ 19.3 million (- 43.3%) for $ 172.656 million to date.

[Advanced Dark]

So we passed DaVinci code. Yeah.

[Advanced Dark]

Weekend estimate according to boxofficemojo is $34,350,000.

http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=22&p=.htm

I am personally hoping the movie does another $11-12 million on sunday because today the weather is GREAT and i have usually seen that all FOX movies do good when the weather is good.

Last year F4 did $22 million on its second weekend. $6+ million on friday, $8+ million on saturday and $7+ million on sunday.

If F4 can have a slight drop on sunday compared to saturday, then I can atleast hope X3 can do atleast $11-12 million on sunday.

I just don't want it be LESS when the actuals come out on monday.
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BTW guys did u realise something about X3 second weekend drop.

It is 66.6% drop from last weekend.

Holy **** DAMIEN is coming.

A 66% drop after a Holiday weekend is nothing. That's actually not bad. Don't forget X3 was on over 8000 screens in 6600 theaters. People can fit in and see it the first weekend so movies are more front loaded now than ever but X3 will still make well more than X1 or X2 with ease. We'll be ahead of X2 by next week on both ends.

[CapBeerCino]

$ 19.3 million (- 43.3%) for $ 172.656 million to date.

And the break-up?

[antariksh]

Wow didn't see that one. 10 million on Sunday is the same as Friday? That's real good.

I am hoping it does $11-12 million on sunday when the actuals are out on monday.

I DON'T want the actuals to be lower that what it already is.

[GL's Light]

And the break-up?
$ 38 million.

[CapBeerCino]

$ 38 million.

But the weekend isn't over - they dont know for sure :confused:

[GL's Light]

But the weekend isn't over - they dont know for sure :confused:
They always put the estimate out on Sunday. They can tell from their tracking figures what the full weekend is likely to end up with. The estimate is rarely more than one or two million out from the actuals.

[CapBeerCino]

They always put the estimate out on Sunday. They can tell from their tracking figures what the full weekend is likely to end up with. The estimate is rarely more than one or two million out from the actuals.

Oh... Thanks!

[DACrowe]

Now that is a HUGE drop.

Oh well.

[Pickle-El]

Now that is a HUGE drop.

Oh well.

Don't Cars and Nacho Libre come out next week?

[GL's Light]

Don't Cars and Nacho Libre come out next week?
Cars is the only major new release next week. Nacho Libre comes out the week after, along with The Fast and the Furious 3, Garfield 2, and The Lake House.

[DACrowe]

Looks like the WOM isn't as good as some fans thought.

It'll still turn a profit and be a success but this shows the general conensus among moviegoers was probably "It was just okay" but seriously the only Marvel film to drop bigger (in the summer) I believe is Hulk. Kind of deserving though.

[berzerko89]

OMG! The Break Up is NOW number one at the box office??!! check IMDB poor X-MEN TLS now at 2nd spot. :(

[josh8]

How long will fans continue to say that this film did well...?

a long time, since it did do well overall. deal with it.

[Optic Rage]

They dont include the dvds in the over all gross do they?

[GL's Light]

They dont include the dvds in the over all gross do they?
No, it's just theatrical box office.

[Optic Rage]

Thanks.

So the chance are X3 is not going to make more then x2?

[GL's Light]

Thanks.

So the chance are X3 is not going to make more then x2?
No, X3 should still make more than X2.

[antariksh]

Can anyone find out how much X3 has done at international market so far??

Because from what i know internationally the x-men movies have always imitated the domestic performance.

Aka when X2 dropped 53% domestically it too dropped 53-54% overseas on second weekend.

Similarly if X3 dropped 66.6% domestically then that means internationally too it dropped 66.6% on second weekend. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to get a heart attack if that happens to X3 at overseas boxoffice this weekend.
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I hope it can do atleast $40 million overseas because MI3 opened with $70 million on first weekend overseas and took $40 million on second weekend.

[GL's Light]

The international numbers should be updated tomorrow. I think X3 will have a much better hold overseas than in the US.

[antariksh]

The international numbers should be updated tomorrow. I think X3 will have a much better hold overseas than in the US.

actually the overseas numbers will come by tonight (9 PM Eastern Canada time) on hollywoodreporter.com , yahoo.com and screendaily.com

[GL's Light]

actually the overseas numbers will come by tonight (9 PM Eastern Canada time) on hollywoodreporter.com , yahoo.com and screendaily.com
Cool.

[liamoversion2]

I don't think International numbers will be that great... it's just not doing nearly as well in places like Europe... I'm not just saying that. The concensus around here is that it's s**t... that's the word that I've heard two different people use, from two different groups of friends... and neither of them had seen the movie... so that leads me to the conclusion that word is getting around pretty quickly...

one other guy who happens to be an X-fan said he loved it which also gives me reason to believe that many X-fans aren't looking at the movie objectively and are just saying it's good out of a strange kind of sense of obligation...

[WorthyStevens]

I don't think International numbers will be that great... it's just not doing nearly as well in places like Europe... I'm not just saying that. The concensus around here is that it's s**t... that's the word that I've heard two different people use, from two different groups of friends... and neither of them had seen the movie... so that leads me to the conclusion that word is getting around pretty quickly...

one other guy who happens to be an X-fan said he loved it which also gives me reason to believe that many X-fans aren't looking at the movie objectively and are just saying it's good out of a strange kind of sense of obligation...

Or, and this may seem crazy, but work with me here...

Maybe they think it's a good movie...?

[liamoversion2]

Or, and this may seem crazy, but work with me here...

Maybe they think it's a good movie...?

Yeah maybe... I don't know... or they could just be a bit simple?

[antariksh]

Or, and this may seem crazy, but work with me here...

Maybe they think it's a good movie...?

Let the numbers come out then we will see.

I myself feel the X3 will drop more than 65%+ overseas this weekend.

Btw DVC has done $581 million upto this date. Which means it probably did between $71-81 million this weekend.

Is it just me or people are really loving DVC overseas.

[antariksh]

I don't think International numbers will be that great... it's just not doing nearly as well in places like Europe... I'm not just saying that. The concensus around here is that it's s**t... that's the word that I've heard two different people use, from two different groups of friends... and neither of them had seen the movie... so that leads me to the conclusion that word is getting around pretty quickly...

one other guy who happens to be an X-fan said he loved it which also gives me reason to believe that many X-fans aren't looking at the movie objectively and are just saying it's good out of a strange kind of sense of obligation...

Listen buddy if you are a true fan of x-men then don't join WorthyStevens4 in bashing the movie.

U don't like it. Then that is fine but there is no more need of speaking negative things about x-men.

[liamoversion2]

Listen buddy if you are a true fan of x-men then don't join WorthyStevens4 in bashing the movie.

U don't like it. Then that is fine but there is no more need of speaking negative things about x-men.


I'm not bashing the movie... but I'm certainly not supporting it... I wouldn't be right of me to support what I feel (peronsally) to be at least somewhat of an injustice.

In my opinion, the movie was not good. I feel the studio gave us the finger in a lot ways. You can hardly expect me to hang billboards for X3 on the side of my house can you?

[ultimatefan]

A 66% drop after a Holiday weekend is nothing. That's actually not bad. Don't forget X3 was on over 8000 screens in 6600 theaters. People can fit in and see it the first weekend so movies are more front loaded now than ever but X3 will still make well more than X1 or X2 with ease. We'll be ahead of X2 by next week on both ends.
It´s not "nothing" not by a long shot. www.comingsoon.net, which is SuperheroHype!´s brother site and leans towards positive about superhero movies, described it as a "huge dive", which is what it is. That will be the description on all analysts sites and columns tomorrow. it doesn´t mean the movie is a flop, but means it took a serious drop and doesn´t look like will have much in terms of legs. If this movie had been done the way it should have, and I mean it in terms of the production rushed development, not the director or writers, I believe it could have been a huge 500m-plus movie worldwide. But it won´t.

[WorthyStevens]

Listen buddy if you are a true fan of x-men then don't join WorthyStevens4 in bashing the movie.

U don't like it. Then that is fine but there is no more need of speaking negative things about x-men.

When did I bash the movie? :confused:

I love the movie, I just don't like some of the things that went down with it.

[danoyse]

So yes, I think these numbers do insinuate that word got out that this film is not as GOOD as it was made out to be. Plain and simple.

Really? I just saw it fairly early this afternoon--it was more than half-full and most of them stayed to watch the scene after the credits. More than I saw sticking around last week.

Not particularly concerned about the dropoff...it wasn't unexpected. Certainly not surprised about "The Breakup"...hell, I'm bummed I didn't have time to see this this weekend.

[obeastdyke]

X-men would have beaten Davinci code last week overseas but it hadnt opened in Korea, China, Japan(Sept 9)

[Nivek]

It´s not "nothing" not by a long shot. www.comingsoon.net, which is SuperheroHype!´s brother site and leans towards positive about superhero movies, described it as a "huge dive", which is what it is. That will be the description on all analysts sites and columns tomorrow. it doesn´t mean the movie is a flop, but means it took a serious drop and doesn´t look like will have much in terms of legs. If this movie had been done the way it should have, and I mean it in terms of the production rushed development, not the director or writers, I believe it could have been a huge 500m-plus movie worldwide. But it won´t.


I agree. With the very sharply divided word of mouth, I hate so say it, but I exspected this to happen. I know I wouldn't see it again till it was released on DVD.

[ultimatefan]

I agree. With the very sharply divided word of mouth, I hate so say it, but I exspected this to happen. I know I wouldn't see it again till it was released on DVD.
Yeah, people gotta get the argument here... Of all critical things I said about this movie and this performance, 90% of it wasn´t directed at Brett Ratner, Zak Penn, Simon Kinberg or the rest of the cast and crew. I believe in this guys´ passion towards the material and respect for Singer´s work, even, mostly, in their craft. HERE´S what I been talking about, what Moriarty from AICN said a year ago and was a dead on prediction of why X3 would ultimately turn out a much less satisfying movie, and a lesser box office hit, than it had the potential to be. Big time.

"You want to know who the main villain of X3 is going to be? Tom Rothman.
One of the reasons I started reading AICN, before I ever contributed anything to it, was because it demystified the development process. So often, blame (or credit) is assigned by fans to people for no particular reason. It’s easy to point a finger at a director or at a writer or even at a company like Marvel and assume that they were responsible for something, but having gone through the development process several times now for different studios (including Fox), I can tell you that more often than not, the truly terrible decisions can come from people whose names you never see onscreen.
When I call Rothman a villain, I’m well aware of how loaded that word is. I can’t think of anything more shocking this year, though, than the speech he gave at this year’s Saturn Awards. Here’s a show specifically designed to celebrate genre, a room filled with SF, fantasy, and horror filmmakers, and Tom Rothman gets up and not only lambasts everyone who writes about those genres, but also has the nerve to call himself a geek.
You, sir, are no geek. A geek would not have stripmined the ALIEN and PREDATOR franchises the way you did. A geek would not consistently value release dates and fiscal quarters over getting material right. Listening to him talk about what a friend he is to genre filmmakers was akin to being at a Shoah Foundation dinner where the guest of honor was Joseph Goebbels. This is the guy who chased Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin off an ID4 sequel after they made $600 million for the studio because he wanted to pay them half of what they made on the first film. This is the man who browbeat Stephen Norrington until he quit the business altogether. This is the guy who almost convinced Alex Proyas to give up filmmaking. How many genre filmmakers... great genre filmmakers... do you see returning to Fox over and over to make their films? And why, exactly, do you think that is?
By the way, Rothman... telling a ballroom full of people that you’re a geek because you **** the star of SUSPIRIA and PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE every night? Classy. Very, very classy. But still... not the point.
If you’re a Fox stockholder, now is the time to be concerned. X-MEN is the only proven major franchise that Fox currently has up and running. Who knows if FANTASTIC FOUR is going to work or not? Maybe it’ll be great. Maybe it won’t. ALIEN VS PREDATOR marked the end of two franchises at the same time. STAR WARS was never yours in the first place. Studios depend on these types of films. There’s a reason they’re called tentpoles. This is what you build the entire rest of your release year around. If you manage one of these properties the right way, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. Look at the way Sony has handled SPIDER-MAN so far. As soon as they release one, they start developing the next one, giving them plenty of time to get the script just right. They don’t start shooting until this winter, but they’re already doing FX and costume tests, and they’re deep into the writing process based on an outline that Sam Raimi and his brother have been tweaking since last year.
You know when Rothman finally gave the go-ahead to start putting together the treatment for X-MEN 3? This February. I’m a chronic procrastinator, and even I think that’s piss-poor time management, man.
Here’s the thing about X-MEN. It may be one of the most flexible and durable film franchises I’ve ever seen. By the very nature of who the X-Men are, you can rotate cast in and out of the series without having to scrap continuity. This is already off to a better financial and creative start than the Bond franchise was, and you see the legs on that one. Why, then, would you allow a personal grudge to lead you to make decisions that will not only kill the golden goose, but also rape it and eat it?
And make no mistake... the rush to make that Memorial Day 2006 release date is about beating Bryan Singer to the screen. The acrimony involved in the Singer/Fox break-up is rich enough to write an entire book about, especially if it leads to the destruction of the franchise. This could turn into one of the all-time great displays of executive hubris in Hollywood. You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision. You strung him along and strung him along and strung him along, and then when you had finally proven to him that you weren’t going to make things easy... you were too late. Alan Horn took full advantage of Bryan’s almost-fetishistic love of Donner’s SUPERMAN and your hesitancy, and he stole him from you. I don’t know what’s funnier... throwing Bryan off the lot using security guards, or the fact that you had to let him back on the lot immediately thereafter so he could shoot HOUSE for the studio.
What’s really amazing is how X-MEN was something Rothman hated from the start, no matter what he says now in public. I’ve spoken to at least ten people close to the production who have provided me with laundry lists of the ways that Rothman tried to **** up the first film. Remember when they cut the budget and moved up the release date on the first X-MEN? You know why? Rothman was cutting his losses. He really, truly anticipated that the film would come out and vanish without a trace, and he would finally be rid of what he saw as a corporate albatross. Instead, the film clicked, and on the second film, Bryan Singer and his writers and the producers were all able to muster enough muscle to get Fox to give them the room they needed to make something even better.
That must have stuck in Rothman’s craw something fierce, and that’s what led to that massive slow-down after X-MEN 2. They should have made Bryan’s deal the following week, and they should have also locked in Dougherty and Harris and Tom DeSanto and Lauren Shuler-Donner and Ralph Winter and the entire production team and the cast and everyone else that was part of the creative alchemy that made the first two films work. I remember one year at BNAT when Tom DeSanto talked about the way they had been planting the seeds of the Dark Phoenix storyline and several others since the very first scenes of the first X-MEN. Who knows? Maybe someday Marvel will let DeSanto and Singer do a graphic novel or a limited-run series where they do the story they had in mind for X3 and X4 on the comics page so we can at least see where the films were originally headed. As it is, Rothman’s firmly back in charge of the franchise now, and that distaste for the material seems to be seeping back in."

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

[danoyse]

It´s not "nothing" not by a long shot. www.comingsoon.net, which is SuperheroHype!´s brother site and leans towards positive about superhero movies, described it as a "huge dive", which is what it is.

I've never seen comingsoon sugar-coat a box office report, superhero movie or not.

If this movie had been done the way it should have, and I mean it in terms of the production rushed development, not the director or writers, I believe it could have been a huge 500m-plus movie worldwide. But it won´t.

Or it would have been a more expensive movie that would have had to make even more money to break even. Neither scenario would have assured a smooth ride for the movie.

[ultimatefan]

I've never seen comingsoon sugar-coat a box office report, superhero movie or not.



Or it would have been a more expensive movie that would have had to make even more money to break even. Neither scenario would have assured a smooth ride for the movie.
I firmly believe that, given the right time - and not much more money, I think a lot of the problems with it could have been fixed with additional character and dialogue scenes, which are much less expensive than FX shots - the movie could have lived up to its potential and made HUGE money.

[liamoversion2]

I've never seen comingsoon sugar-coat a box office report, superhero movie or not.



Or it would have been a more expensive movie that would have had to make even more money to break even. Neither scenario would have assured a smooth ride for the movie.


Where's your logic for that second comment? Bryan Singer made a pretty astounding (logistics wise) movie for 110 million. Look at all the great set pieces he managed to fit in for that... Did they repeat that with the huge budget increase for X3? Nope... this certainly did have a lot to do with the rushed production.

[danoyse]

I firmly believe that, given the right time - and not much more money, I think a lot of the problems with it could have been fixed with additional character and dialogue scenes, which are much less expensive than FX shots - the movie could have lived up to its potential and made HUGE money.

Maybe.

Here's the AP story...point out the dive, but that it doesn't appear to be the end of the world, either:

After putting in a record four-day debut of $122.9 million over Memorial Day weekend, 20th Century Fox's third "X-Men" movie tumbled. The movie's domestic gross dropped a steep 67 percent from its Friday-Sunday haul the first weekend.

Still, "X-Men" raised its total to a whopping $175.7 million in just 10 days, a mark it took "X2: X-Men United" 18 days to reach. Bruce Snyder, head of distribution for Fox, said the film should top out at $240 million to $250 million, beating the $157 million take for the first "X-Men" and the $215 million return for "X2."

The huge decline in the second weekend was typical given how many people saw the movie over the holiday weekend, Snyder said.

"I'm not shocked at that drop," Snyder said.

[JustABill]

This drop was expected, but whereas I've heard nothing but good about X3 from casual people I meet at work, I asked people about the Breakup and I heard all bad. Breakup's gonna have a drop next week much larger than X3 this week me suspects.

[danoyse]

Where's your logic for that second comment? Bryan Singer made a pretty astounding (logistics wise) movie for 110 million. Look at all the great set pieces he managed to fit in for that... Did they repeat that with the huge budget increase for X3? Nope... this certainly did have a lot to do with the rushed production.

How is any movie automatically better just because they have more time?

[liamoversion2]

Maybe.

Here's the AP story...point out the dive, but that it doesn't appear to be the end of the world, either:


Well he's hardly going to say "yeah that drop is enormous... we're pretty F'd in the A"

[danoyse]

Well he's hardly going to say "yeah that drop is enormous... we're pretty F'd in the A"

It was the article itself that pointed out how much money it's already made, and how it will probably still make more than the first two movies.

Of course Snyder's quote is going to be positive.

[ultimatefan]

Maybe.

Here's the AP story...point out the dive, but that it doesn't appear to be the end of the world, either:
I never said it was a flop, the insane dedication of Ratner, cast and crew still managed to prevent the movie from being the complete disaster it was shaping up to be and did well enough to save Fox´s ass. The test of time is the one where this will REALLY sink when compared to the previous two.

[danoyse]

This drop was expected, but whereas I've heard nothing but good about X3 from casual people I meet at work, I asked people about the Breakup and I heard all bad. Breakup's gonna have a drop next week much larger than X3 this week me suspects.

Especially with "Cars" coming out next weekend.

Wasn't X2 knocked off the #1 spot by "Daddy Day Care"??

[liamoversion2]

How is any movie automatically better just because they have more time?


Honestly... I'm not entirely sure... I could speculate, but I'm not really bothered right now...

All I can say is that for 110 million, Singer's movie looks more expensive almost than the third one... it must have had something to do with the rushed production schedule and losing money over things that never made the final cut etc... The only big set piece in this movie is the GGB sequence... the rest is pretty average stuff...

[danoyse]

I never said it was a flop, the insane dedication of Ratner, cast and crew still managed to prevent the movie from being the complete disaster it was shaping up to be and did well enough to save Fox´s ass. The test of time is the one where this will REALLY sink when compared to the previous two.

But the article said it will make more money than the first two.

[ultimatefan]

This drop was expected, but whereas I've heard nothing but good about X3 from casual people I meet at work, I asked people about the Breakup and I heard all bad. Breakup's gonna have a drop next week much larger than X3 this week me suspects.
That movie looks like a REAL turkey. Jen Aniston is a fraud - way to go, Brad, you traded a Beetle for a Ferrari, man - and people went to see it thinking it was going to be another Wedding Crashers, which it ain´t.

[GL's Light]

Especially with "Cars" coming out next weekend.

Wasn't X2 knocked off the #1 spot by "Daddy Day Care"??
No, X2 held # 1 in its second week with a $ 40 million take. Daddy Day Care opened # 2 with $ 27.6 million.

[danoyse]

Honestly... I'm not entirely sure... I could speculate, but I'm not really bothered right now...

Because you can't know for sure until you've seen any movie to know if the time and money were well spent.

All I can say is that for 110 million, Singer's movie looks more expensive almost than the third one... it must have had something to do with the rushed production schedule and losing money over things that never made the final cut etc... The only big set piece in this movie is the GGB sequence... the rest is pretty average stuff...

Far as I know, none of us actually budget these things...so who knows who's spending the cash more wisely on what.

[ultimatefan]

But the article said it will make more money than the first two.
It will because of its huge jumpstart. But it´s one of these movies that make a lot of money and when the hype and buzz is over people will realize it wasn´t that good.

[danoyse]

No, X2 held # 1 in its second week with a $ 40 million take. Daddy Day Care opened # 2 with $ 27.6 million.

Eventually taken down by pre-schoolers....oh well! :p

[JustABill]

Hell, The Omen might kick The Break Up out of number 1 spot as soon as Tuesday.

[ultimatefan]

Honestly... I'm not entirely sure... I could speculate, but I'm not really bothered right now...

All I can say is that for 110 million, Singer's movie looks more expensive almost than the third one... it must have had something to do with the rushed production schedule and losing money over things that never made the final cut etc... The only big set piece in this movie is the GGB sequence... the rest is pretty average stuff...
It means more time to work on the script, polish it more, do more tests with design stuff, many things... A longer movie would have a chance to give the characters more to do and more development, and some characters REALLY lacked in that department.

[liamoversion2]

Because you can't know for sure until you've seen any movie to know if the time and money were well spent.



Far as I know, none of us actually budget these things...so who knows who's spending the cash more wisely on what.


All I'm saying is that it's not that much of a leap in logic...

[crappymovie]

The number's aren't that bad, the drop was from a holiday weekend. But the troubling part is the larger drops compared to X2. But if it preforms similar to X1 (which had worse legs than X2), it'll make around $230-240 million...which is very good. But it cost around $200 million, while X2 cost $110. So approx. 40 million profit, vs. 114 million...:

But there's always International dollars

[danoyse]

It will because of its huge jumpstart. But it´s one of these movies that make a lot of money and when the hype and buzz is over people will realize it wasn´t that good.

A total is a total, no matter how much it dwindled to get there.

And again, has the world really turned it's back on X3 like some would have us believe? If it fell to #3 or further I'd believe it. No. It showed up #2 to a comedy that you'd be crazy to think wouldn't be successful this weekend, and still made a decent amount of money this weekend.

Hardly a failure.

[Punisher 04]

Ok it dropped 66.6%, so what, it still made will make a *****load of money. Hate it or love it,it's still a success, it's going to rank up there anyway. People shouldn't underestimate Mr. Vince Vaughn, he's been a big box office draw lately.
http://www.**************.com/images/news/x-men-3-the-last-stand/xmen052306.jpg

[danoyse]

It means more time to work on the script, polish it more, do more tests with design stuff, many things... A longer movie would have a chance to give the characters more to do and more development, and some characters REALLY lacked in that department.

I agree the movie needed more character development.

But sometimes they still have all those things and still turn out a bloated movie.

[GL's Light]

The number's aren't that bad, the drop was from a holiday weekend. But the troubling part is the larger drops compared to X2. But if it preforms similar to X1 (which had worse legs than X2), it'll make around $230-240 million...
X1 had better legs than X2. X1 grossed 2.88X its opening weekend, while X2 grossed 2.51X its opening.

[danoyse]

Hell, The Omen might kick The Break Up out of number 1 spot as soon as Tuesday.

And that's just sad. I still can't believe they remade "The Omen."

Although horror movies tend to sink faster than the Titanic on their second weekends.

[ultimatefan]

A total is a total, no matter how much it dwindled to get there.

And again, has the world really turned it's back on X3 like some would have us believe? If it fell to #3 or further I'd believe it. No. It showed up #2 to a comedy that you'd be crazy to think wouldn't be successful this weekend, and still made a decent amount of money this weekend.

Hardly a failure.
Which I never said it was... We´re beginning to run in circles here...
A total is a total, but as I said, I doubt the test of time will be very gentle to this movie. It will make a lot of money and time the DVD comes, I can bet a lot of people will think, "nah... It wasn´t really that great". Of course by then it has made a profit already, and again, that´s because Ratner and his guys still did all he could with the little they were given to work with.

[crappymovie]

X1 had better legs than X2. X1 grossed 2.88X its opening weekend, while X2 grossed 2.51X its opening.

Sorry, typo :up:

But lower legs within a franchise are expected. Except for the "last" movie in the trilogy...

[ultimatefan]

I agree the movie needed more character development.

But sometimes they still have all those things and still turn out a bloated movie.
Yeah, but I believe this crew could have pulled it off. That´s why the studio´s attitude is so irritating. Cuz we can only wonder what it could have been.

[JustABill]

Don't look know Danoyse, but apparently, ''Halloween" is up next for the remake block.

[danoyse]

A total is a total, but as I said, I doubt the test of time will be very gentle to this movie. It will make a lot of money and time the DVD comes, I can bet a lot of people will think, "nah... It wasn´t really that great". Of course by then it has made a profit already, and again, that´s because Ratner and his guys still did all he could with the little they were given to work with.

Having survived Superman III, Alien 3, Halloween III, and Jaws 3, this one (thankfully) doesn't fall into those categories at all.

I've seen the movie 3 times now, and it was well-received 3 times with the audiences I've seen it with.

[danoyse]

Don't look know Danoyse, but apparently, ''Halloween" is up next for the remake block.

Oh gawd... :rolleyes:

When they remake "A Nightmare on Elm Street," I'll officially feel old. :mad:

[ultimatefan]

Having survived Superman III, Alien 3, Halloween III, and Jaws 3, this one (thankfully) doesn't fall into those categories at all.

I've seen the movie 3 times now, and it was well-received 3 times with the audiences I've seen it with.
I know, and Batman Forever too... I know we could have had a lot worse, but what saddens me is I think these guys could have done it, they could have done something that truly achieved its potential and honored the seeds that Singer planted, but they weren´t given the chance cuz some monkey-brain studio suits decided they had to release it before Singer´s Superman no matter what, and more out of spite than anything else.

[crappymovie]

I've seen the movie 3 times now, and it was well-received 3 times with the audiences I've seen it with.

That's hardly a reason to think that ALL audiences received it well....but that's something that's been discussed to death. :D

I think this was a case of underestimating the Break-Up. It had a box office appeal that was very widespread: older females, teenagers, a date movie, etc. And the reviews don't really count for much these days, except for word of mouth. I think the true test of X3's box office will be next weekend. If it drops >50%, I think that wll definitely set off a warning. It could put it in the territory of preforming SLIGHTLY better than X2. Which is NOT good news anyway you put it. But it'll still be a profitable film...just not as profitable.

[antariksh]

I firmly believe that, given the right time - and not much more money, I think a lot of the problems with it could have been fixed with additional character and dialogue scenes, which are much less expensive than FX shots - the movie could have lived up to its potential and made HUGE money.

OK then why didn't X2 do $250+ million domestically and $500+ worldwide if it was a MUCH BETTER movie than X3???????????

If The Matrix did $460+ worldwide and the second did $700+ worldwide then shouldn't have X2 shown a HUGE improvement in the boxoffice (atleast $500+ worlwide) but it didn't because X2 is an overrated piece of trash.

I think the x-men franchise didn't get the SAME TREATMENT as spider-man.

I will blame both FOX and BRYAN SINGER. He is the one who made cyclops and several other characters look PATHETIC.

BRETT RATNER just followed what he did in X1 and X2.

STOP all this negativity and lets see what happens in future.

[danoyse]

Yeah, but I believe this crew could have pulled it off. That´s why the studio´s attitude is so irritating. Cuz we can only wonder what it could have been.

Agreed. :up:

But still, I saw the trailer for Superman before I saw X3 today...and as beautiful as that movie looks, for some reason I thought that look just didn't suit an X-Men movie. I've always considered them the scrappier comic series...and X3 pulled that off particularly well.

[danoyse]

That's hardly a reason to think that ALL audiences received it well....but that's something that's been discussed to death. :D

Basically, so is the whole 'word of the mouth' discussion. I call it the "everyone I know" theory. :up:

I think this was a case of underestimating the Break-Up. It had a box office appeal that was very widespread: older females, teenagers, a date movie, etc.

That's true. Most of my friends wouldn't see an X-Men movie if I paid them. But they're very excited about "The Breakup"...much wider appeal.

I think the true test of X3's box office will be next weekend. If it drops >50%, I think that wll definitely set off a warning. It could put it in the territory of preforming SLIGHTLY better than X2. Which is NOT good news anyway you put it. But it'll still be a profitable film...just not as profitable.

Ehhh...against "Cars"?? It'll be tough. Look how well "Over the Hedge" has held up the last few weeks.

[crappymovie]

X2 is an overrated piece of trash.


I agree with some of your points, but box office doesn't always reflect quality. Scooby-Doo made more than Sin City...but it depends on your definition of quality. X2 was successful because it made over 2x it's budget...pretty good, I'd say.

[ultimatefan]

OK then why didn't X2 do $250+ million domestically and $500+ worldwide if it was a MUCH BETTER movie than X3???????????

If The Matrix did $460+ worldwide and the second did $700+ worldwide then shouldn't have X2 shown a HUGE improvement in the boxoffice (atleast $500+ worlwide) but it didn't because X2 is an overrated piece of trash.

I think the x-men franchise didn't get the SAME TREATMENT as spider-man.

I will blame both FOX and BRYAN SINGER. He is the one who made cyclops and several other characters look PATHETIC.

BRETT RATNER just followed what he did in X1 and X2.

STOP all this negativity and lets see what happens in future.
It made more than X-Men 1, which is quite rare for a sequel. With a storyline as potentially powerful as the Dark Phoenix saga, I believe X3 could have done more, yes.

And let´s cut the "negativity" and "hater" thing, alright. If I´m being critical, it´s because I´m a fan, and I have my opinion like all fans. In the Batman Begins and Spider-Man boards I´m called "Mr. positive" and "studio sell-out" just cuz I love these movies and therefore defend them. Start bashing X-Men 1 and 2 and I´ll defend them as well... I don´t even consider myself really negative towards X3, Í don´t think it´s bad... just not as good as I think it could have been.

[Rac]

And that's just sad. I still can't believe they remade "The Omen."

They remade Omen just because of 06.06.06. And I'm going to see it just because 06.06.06... If only some theater would show the original I wouldn't have to see yet another unnecessary remake.

[YJ1]

Hell, The Omen might kick The Break Up out of number 1 spot as soon as Tuesday.

What kind of omen is it that X3 fell 66.6 percent? It must be a sign of evil influence when critically panned crap like the Break Up draws so well.

[GL's Light]

OK then why didn't X2 do $250+ million domestically and $500+ worldwide if it was a MUCH BETTER movie than X3???????????

If The Matrix did $460+ worldwide and the second did $700+ worldwide then shouldn't have X2 shown a HUGE improvement in the boxoffice (atleast $500+ worlwide) but it didn't because X2 is an overrated piece of trash.

I think the x-men franchise didn't get the SAME TREATMENT as spider-man.

I will blame both FOX and BRYAN SINGER. He is the one who made cyclops and several other characters look PATHETIC.

BRETT RATNER just followed what he did in X1 and X2.

STOP all this negativity and lets see what happens in future.

X1 made $ 295 million worldwide. X2 increased that to $ 407 million. That's a very impressive increase - it's quite rare for a sequel to go up by that much. And it's a little strange to ask people to "stop all this negativity" in a post that calls X2 "an overrated piece of trash". Seriously, practice what you preach.

[The Bruce]

To mine X-men 3 was amazing! It felt like the X-men....

I would have loved to see a BRETT RATNER X-men franchise. I think he’s a huge fan of the original comics and given time - he could have made a truly great trilogy.

[JustABill]

-sigh- I loved X3, but now after the answers from Penn.

Poor Singer, Marsden, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg never had a ****ing chance with Fox.

[Storm22]

-sigh- I loved X3, but now after the answers from Penn.

Poor Singer, Marsden, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg never had a ****ing chance with Fox.

After reading Penn's answers I'm greatful we even had Marsden in the movie at all! At least Penn and Kinberg fought for him to be in!:up:

[ultimatefan]

-sigh- I loved X3, but now after the answers from Penn.

Poor Singer, Marsden, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg never had a ****ing chance with Fox.
yeah, I feel sorry for all these guys. They have obvious passion for the material - Singer didn´t have it at first, but he developed it - and they tried hard. That´s a good thing about the Internet, you learn about how the development thing works, you know sometimes the stuff that doesn´t work comes from people who don´t even show up in the credits.

[antariksh]

-sigh- I loved X3, but now after the answers from Penn.

Poor Singer, Marsden, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg never had a ****ing chance with Fox.

YEAH i guess that is why singer left the franchise when he got an opportuity to do so.

I hope one day Ratner will get a chance to do another comic book based movie NOT from fox but from some other company.

Now i will wait for Fantastic four 2 and see how that turns out. That is the last chance i will give FOX to prove themselves.

If F4-2 turns out to be any close to X3 i will be happy!!! but if it is worse than the original then that is it that will be the last comic book adaption i will watch from FOX.

[Tony Stark]

F4:2 has a real chance. For one thing, it's obvious Avi Arad has lost some influence, which is good. He was adamant that Silver Surfer would not be in the movie. Tim Story actualy was pushing for that. Fox overruled Avi and went with the Surfer script.

Second, whatever you think about Tim Story as a director, he cares about the characters deeply. I think more than Ratner alegedly cared about X-men.

The biggest problem is Fox coming in and making last minute cuts that the director's don't approve of. This absolutely shouldn't happen.

[ultimatefan]

F4:2 has a real chance. For one thing, it's obvious Avi Arad has lost some influence, which is good. He was adamant that Silver Surfer would not be in the movie. Tim Story actualy was pushing for that. Fox overruled Avi and went with the Surfer script.

Second, whatever you think about Tim Story as a director, he cares about the characters deeply. I think more than Ratner alegedly cared about X-men.

The biggest problem is Fox coming in and making last minute cuts that the director's don't approve of. This absolutely shouldn't happen.
Ratner cares a lot, the FF characters are much easier to balance out than X-Men.

[Advanced Dark]

Does anyone have Hollywood Reporter Access? X3's new international total is in this article:

June 05, 2006

'Da Vinci' closes in on Sony overseas record

Although hardly the darling of film critics, Ron Howard's "The Da Vinci Code" continues to dominate internationally, accumulating an estimated $52 million during the weekend on 11,625 screens in 84 markets. Overseas boxoffice total to date stands at a lofty $410 million, more than double its U.S. total of $172.7 million. Sony Pictures Releasing International, "Da Vinci's" distributor, confidently predicts that the film version of Dan Brown's best-selling novel will "in the next couple of days" surpass 2002's "Spider-Man" (overseas gross of $417.9 million) and 2004's "Spider-Man 2" ($410.5 million) to become SPRI's biggest international hit ever. "Da Vinci" in its third weekend opened in the United Arab Emirates, notching $690,000 on 34 screens, enough to make it the territory's third-biggest opening ever. Key holdovers include Japan ($7 million on 857 screens), Italy ($5.7 million at 894 locations), Germany ($5 million at 1,171 spots), France ($3.6 million at 945 screens), the U.K. ($3.6 million from 1,070 locations) and Spain ($3.5 million on 748 screens). (Frank Segers) http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/images/arrow.gifFULL STORY (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002613085)

[cyke93]

x3 posted the largest drop in post memorial day history, surprising ? no.

[tallsy_1]

I have no faith in Fox to do the right thing FF2. Just like they realized Wolverine was the most popular X-Men. They know from their surveys that people liked Johnny and The Thing in FF. The entire movie will focus on them with Alba in a bikini, and Reed killed off in the first 15 minutes.

I'm glad this piece of crap had the biggest post-Memorial Day drop in history. They basically screwed with hard core fans.

[Retroman]

'Cars' is coming out this week then the week after 'Nacho Libre'. It's not looking good for X3's final box office after such great start.

[Advanced Dark]

x3 posted the largest drop in post memorial day history, surprising ? no.

So what? Movie are so frontloaded now with all the screens they're released on hence the 122.5 million opening weekend. Everyone who wanted to see it already saw it. Most analysts expected X3 to be #1 with around 40 million this weekend and The Break Up to take in around 20 million. The Break Up did better than expected and X3 wound up being damn close to what they expected. All and all it's the total that matters. What's the diff if it makes 250 million in 20 days or 40 days. I'd rather take it in 20.

[cyke93]

'Cars' is coming out this week then the week after 'Nacho Libre'. It's not looking good for X3's final box office after such great start.

i knew that once everyone saw the movie and they walk out of the theatre, with a good number of people going .. "WTF was that?"

i knew that the big drop was for sure.

and i hope x3 gets hammered over the next week, not because i dont want an x4, but that fox's interference with the movie can not be tolerated anymore and not to focus on just 2 characters in a movie built as an ensamble... how would you like the show friends, if they just focused on joey........ yeah exactly !!!!

[Advanced Dark]

'Cars' is coming out this week then the week after 'Nacho Libre'. It's not looking good for X3's final box office after such great start.

Nacho Libre is a joke. Another Jack Black flop. I like Jack's old films and forget King Kong that was not a Jack Black movie. Cars on the other hand is a hit or miss. I think this is Pixars best chance of a flop if there ever was one. The Wild & Over the Hedge didn't do to well, and there was another one that was released that went nowhere. Cars looks ok but with Cars as characters it just seems kind of lame or it'll get old after awhile. We'll see but I don't see Cars doing anything near Shrek or Finding Nemo, or Incredible #'s. No way.

X3's box office is wrapping up. Another 15-20 million next weekend plus whatever we take during the week. Maybe 10 million the week after that if it's lucky plus daily takes and Internation. 450-500 international is possible.

[Advanced Dark]

Hey Retro do you have access to the Hollywood Reporter article above. DaVinci took in over 50 and was #1 so X3 must have took in 35-45 more.

[phantom47]

i think once X3 is released in China South Korea Tawain and Japan it will bring in another 25-30 from those countries when its all said and done

[Tony Stark]

I have no faith in Fox to do the right thing FF2. Just like they realized Wolverine was the most popular X-Men. They know from their surveys that people liked Johnny and The Thing in FF. The entire movie will focus on them with Alba in a bikini, and Reed killed off in the first 15 minutes.

I'm glad this piece of crap had the biggest post-Memorial Day drop in history. They basically screwed with hard core fans.

I agree with your assesment of X-men, but I think you're taking it a bit to far with FF. If there's anyone in FF, I worry about getting short changed, it's Doom.

I really think Avi Arad and Lauren Schuler Donner had more to do with screwing the fans than anyone else. Ultimately Avi deserves most of the blame. He's supposed to protect Marvel's interest in the integrity of the characters. He screwed everyone.

But as I said, it's clear Avi does not have much input on FF, as his input was clearly rejected. It also seems that Fox is ignoring him, saying they are going ahead with development on X4 when Avi says otherwise.

[phantom47]

One thing I hated about X3s marketing was that we saw all these tv spots before the movie came out and now i havent seen one since while im still seeing Davinci code tv spots and over the hedge

[Advanced Dark]

'Code' hold's hard to crack
Sony's thriller rakes in $52 mil abroad in third frame

By DAVE MCNARY (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=bio&peopleID=1508)
http://a330.g.akamai.net/7/330/23382/20001121233921/www.variety.com/graphics/1x1blue.gif International moviegoers remained faithful to "The Da Vinci Code," as the third weekend of Sony's thriller easily led a healthy foreign box office with $52 million at 11,625 playdates in 84 markets.... WANT TO READ THE WHOLE STORY? (http://www.variety.com/promo?code=CT4UPSA&ft=1)

C'mon guys within is X3's foreign update.

[Kevin Roegele]

One thing I hated about X3s marketing was that we saw all these tv spots before the movie came out and now i havent seen one since while im still seeing Davinci code tv spots and over the hedge

TV spots are most commonly used before a movie's release, not during it.

[narrows101]

From Variety:

Terrific trio tops $300 million o'seas
Pics' opening frames posted a combined $300 mil

By DAVE MCNARY (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=bio&peopleID=1508)

The month of May turned magical for the international moviegoing business, thanks to the formidable one-two-three punch of "The Da Vinci Code," "X-Men: The Last Stand" and "Mission: Impossible III."

The trio's opening frames posted a combined $300 million in foreign grosses, starting with $70 million for "MI3," followed by $154.7 million for "The Da Vinci Code" and $76.1 million for "X-Men 3."

And the second weekend of "Code" continued to click exceptionally in foreign markets with $91 million as the thriller declined only 40%, compared with a 56% slide Stateside.

As of May 30, "Code" had cumed $340 million internationally, representing 70% of the worldwide gross of $487.8 million. On the same date, "X-Men 3" had totaled foreign coin of $91.4 million, while its U.S. performance was more impressive with $130 million; and "MI3" had cumed $185.2 million overseas, or 62% of its worldwide total of $300 million.

It was the best stretch for overall international biz since the last holiday period, when the combo of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," "King Kong" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" salvaged what had been a mostly disappointing year. And the red-hot May performance evoked comparisons with the early summer of 2004, when four tentpoles -- "Troy," "The Day After Tomorrow," "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" and "Shrek 2" -- drove foreign biz to stratospheric levels.

In France, for example, the battle between "X-Men 3" and "Code" drove receipts up by a whopping 113% compared with the same frame of 2005, with the mutants grabbing 31% of the market and "Code" taking 22%.
In the U.K., the presence of dual blockbusters plus dreary weather boosted biz by 12% from the previous frame and an impressive 68% from the 2005 weekend. "X-Men 3" opened in line with estimates and could take in as much as $40 million in Blighty, while final Brit gross for "Code" could hit $60 million.

U.K. exhibitors noted "X-Men 3" also reaped benefits from the star power of Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman along with the presence of Brit thesps Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen and Vinnie Jones.

In Germany, overall box office rose 24% due to drizzly weather, a solid bow of "X-Men 3" and impressive holdover biz for "Code" as Teuton patrons ignored negative notices.

"People want to make up their own minds," one German exhibitor asserted. "And word of mouth has been much more positive than the reviews."
It was the same story in Spain, where "Code" easily beat "X-Men 3" with a 46% decline after its record-setting launch weekend. "The picture really has good word of mouth despite having such bad reviews," one Iberian booker noted.

And in Italy, also coming off a record opening, "Code" remained a crowd-pleaser with a respectable 45% slide.

"Over a hot summer weekend like this, a weaker film would have failed to continue to pull people in," one Italian booker mused. "It's a film that people are talking and talking about and want to see. There wasn't a TV station or magazine or newspaper that wasn't talking about 'The Da Vinci Code.'"

Among major markets, "X-Men 3" scored first-place finishes in the U.K., Australia, Brazil, France, Mexico and Russia and set launch records for Fox in Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore. In Oz, Fox Intl.'s marketing efforts placed local star Hugh Jackman front and center, helping lead to a socko per-screen average of $12,418.

"X-Men 3" opened at about 3,500 fewer playdates than "Da Vinci" as Fox opted to wait in four key markets -- South Korea, launching June 15; Taiwan, June 17; China, July 20; and Japan, Sept. 9.

"MI3," which dominated foreign biz for the first two frames of May, remained a significant player, though its final foreign gross will probably fall short of its predecessors, which grossed $270 million and $330 million overseas. Its key remaining market is Japan, which opens July 8.

"MI3" has performed best in South Korea with $32 million as of May 30, followed by $26.7 million in the U.K. By contrast, German auds haven't responded to the Tom Cruise actioner as the fourth frame tied for third in Germany with the eighth weekend of "Ice Age: The Meltdown" with $1.03 million.

"MI3" has cumed an unspectacular $9.2 million in Germany, while "Ice Age 2" is nearing $60 million in the market. "It shows that franchises based on popular films are no guarantee of success," one German exhibitor opined.
Other titles saw mostly targeted releases such as Pedro Almodovar's "Volver," which finished third in Italy for the second frame in a row to push the Italo take to $3.2 million. Pic has grossed $11.6 million in a three-month run in Spain.

BVI's "The Wild" finished a distant third in the U.K. with a decent $1.9 million, with bookers noting that the kidpic is the first to target family audiences since "Ice Age 2." Blighty auds also supported Bollywood's "Fanaa," which notched sixth place at a mere three dozen sites. UIP launched "Curious George" to moderate response with $2 million at 747 playdates in the U.K., Germany, Austria and Switzerland as of May 30. The distrib saw similar results from its second sesh of "Over the Hedge" with a cume of $1.75 million from 122 sites in Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore on the same date.

[Advanced Dark]

From Variety:

Terrific trio tops $300 million o'seas
Pics' opening frames posted a combined $300 mil

By DAVE MCNARY (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=bio&peopleID=1508)

The month of May turned magical for the international moviegoing business, thanks to the formidable one-two-three punch of "The Da Vinci Code," "X-Men: The Last Stand" and "Mission: Impossible III."

The trio's opening frames posted a combined $300 million in foreign grosses, starting with $70 million for "MI3," followed by $154.7 million for "The Da Vinci Code" and $76.1 million for "X-Men 3."

And the second weekend of "Code" continued to click exceptionally in foreign markets with $91 million as the thriller declined only 40%, compared with a 56% slide Stateside.

As of May 30, "Code" had cumed $340 million internationally, representing 70% of the worldwide gross of $487.8 million. On the same date, "X-Men 3" had totaled foreign coin of $91.4 million, while its U.S. performance was more impressive with $130 million; and "MI3" had cumed $185.2 million overseas, or 62% of its worldwide total of $300 million.

It was the best stretch for overall international biz since the last holiday period, when the combo of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," "King Kong" and "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" salvaged what had been a mostly disappointing year. And the red-hot May performance evoked comparisons with the early summer of 2004, when four tentpoles -- "Troy," "The Day After Tomorrow," "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" and "Shrek 2" -- drove foreign biz to stratospheric levels.

In France, for example, the battle between "X-Men 3" and "Code" drove receipts up by a whopping 113% compared with the same frame of 2005, with the mutants grabbing 31% of the market and "Code" taking 22%.
In the U.K., the presence of dual blockbusters plus dreary weather boosted biz by 12% from the previous frame and an impressive 68% from the 2005 weekend. "X-Men 3" opened in line with estimates and could take in as much as $40 million in Blighty, while final Brit gross for "Code" could hit $60 million.

U.K. exhibitors noted "X-Men 3" also reaped benefits from the star power of Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman along with the presence of Brit thesps Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen and Vinnie Jones.

In Germany, overall box office rose 24% due to drizzly weather, a solid bow of "X-Men 3" and impressive holdover biz for "Code" as Teuton patrons ignored negative notices.

"People want to make up their own minds," one German exhibitor asserted. "And word of mouth has been much more positive than the reviews."
It was the same story in Spain, where "Code" easily beat "X-Men 3" with a 46% decline after its record-setting launch weekend. "The picture really has good word of mouth despite having such bad reviews," one Iberian booker noted.

And in Italy, also coming off a record opening, "Code" remained a crowd-pleaser with a respectable 45% slide.

"Over a hot summer weekend like this, a weaker film would have failed to continue to pull people in," one Italian booker mused. "It's a film that people are talking and talking about and want to see. There wasn't a TV station or magazine or newspaper that wasn't talking about 'The Da Vinci Code.'"

Among major markets, "X-Men 3" scored first-place finishes in the U.K., Australia, Brazil, France, Mexico and Russia and set launch records for Fox in Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore. In Oz, Fox Intl.'s marketing efforts placed local star Hugh Jackman front and center, helping lead to a socko per-screen average of $12,418.

"X-Men 3" opened at about 3,500 fewer playdates than "Da Vinci" as Fox opted to wait in four key markets -- South Korea, launching June 15; Taiwan, June 17; China, July 20; and Japan, Sept. 9.

"MI3," which dominated foreign biz for the first two frames of May, remained a significant player, though its final foreign gross will probably fall short of its predecessors, which grossed $270 million and $330 million overseas. Its key remaining market is Japan, which opens July 8.

"MI3" has performed best in South Korea with $32 million as of May 30, followed by $26.7 million in the U.K. By contrast, German auds haven't responded to the Tom Cruise actioner as the fourth frame tied for third in Germany with the eighth weekend of "Ice Age: The Meltdown" with $1.03 million.

"MI3" has cumed an unspectacular $9.2 million in Germany, while "Ice Age 2" is nearing $60 million in the market. "It shows that franchises based on popular films are no guarantee of success," one German exhibitor opined.
Other titles saw mostly targeted releases such as Pedro Almodovar's "Volver," which finished third in Italy for the second frame in a row to push the Italo take to $3.2 million. Pic has grossed $11.6 million in a three-month run in Spain.

BVI's "The Wild" finished a distant third in the U.K. with a decent $1.9 million, with bookers noting that the kidpic is the first to target family audiences since "Ice Age 2." Blighty auds also supported Bollywood's "Fanaa," which notched sixth place at a mere three dozen sites. UIP launched "Curious George" to moderate response with $2 million at 747 playdates in the U.K., Germany, Austria and Switzerland as of May 30. The distrib saw similar results from its second sesh of "Over the Hedge" with a cume of $1.75 million from 122 sites in Malaysia, the Philippines and Singapore on the same date.


Wow 91.4 million without including this Weekend totals with big markets held out. Didn't know they did that! Awesome!

[antariksh]

F4:2 has a real chance. For one thing, it's obvious Avi Arad has lost some influence, which is good. He was adamant that Silver Surfer would not be in the movie. Tim Story actualy was pushing for that. Fox overruled Avi and went with the Surfer script.

Second, whatever you think about Tim Story as a director, he cares about the characters deeply. I think more than Ratner alegedly cared about X-men.

The biggest problem is Fox coming in and making last minute cuts that the director's don't approve of. This absolutely shouldn't happen.

Ya i know Tim Story cares about the characters and F4:2 will have MUCH BETTER villains then what avi arad wanted.

[Kevin Roegele]

I can see X3 being a huge seller on DVD.

[GL's Light]

From Variety:

International moviegoers remained faithful to "The Da Vinci Code," as the third weekend of Sony's thriller easily led a healthy foreign box office with $52 million at 11,625 playdates in 84 markets.

Fox's second frame of "X-Men: The Last Stand" showed moderate traction overseas, declining 56% to $33.5 million at 8,108 engagements. And Warner's expansion of its pricey "Poseidon" landed respectably with $22.9 million at 3,360 prints in 15 markets.

With the top three pics combining for $109 million, overall international bizbiz handily outperformed the same weekend of 2005, when the third weekend of "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith" led with $38.5 million. But with soccer's World Cup beginning Friday, foreign moviegoing's expected to see major declines during the next four frames.

"The Da Vinci Code," which declined 42% from its second frame, has shown far more power overseas than domestically on its way to racking up a worldwide cume of $582.7 million. International coincoin accounts for more than 70%, with overseas grosses totaling $410 million.

"Code" is certain to surpass Sony's top foreign performers -- "Spider-Man" at $417.9 million and "Spider-Man 2" at $410.5 million -- in the next two days. It's already become the 21st pic to gross more than $400 million internationally.

"Code" performed best in Japan, with a 23% decline to $7 million at 857 screens, and in Italy, where it's holding impressively with a 5% decline to $5.7 million at 894. Other major European markets saw more significant declines, with Germany down 54% to $5 million at 1,171, France off 53% to $3.6 million at 945, the U.K. down 60% to $3.6 million at 1,070 and Spain declining 41% to $3.5 million at 748.

"Code" also topped seven figures in Australia with $2 million at 493, Brazil with $2 million at 534, South Korea with $1.6 million at 221, Mexico with $1.6 million at 768 and Switzerland with $1.2 million at 127. Its only launch came in the UAE with $690,000 at 34, the industry's third-biggest opening ever.

"X-Men: The Last Stand" stayed solid on the foreign front, with a mostly better hold than its 67% decline Stateside. Foreign grosses for the fantasy sequel have totaled $135.5 million, or 44% of the $310 million worldwide cume.

"X-Men 3" performed best in the U.K., with a 67% decline to $4.4 million at 450; in France, which also declined 67% to $3.5 million at 756; in Mexico with a 49% slide to $3 million at 1,000; in Germany, with a 59% fall to $2.3 million at 881; and in Australia, with a 58% decline to $2.1 million at 395.

The third "X-Men" should surpass the $139 million foreign cume of the original "X-Men" in a few days and looks likely to finish its international run in the same range as "X2: X-Men United," which grossed $193 million overseas in 2003. Fox has held off launching "X-Men 3" in Japan, where it opens Sept. 9; China, opening July 20; South Korea, launching June 15; and Taiwan, opening June 17.

[phantom47]

wow 130 so far internationally pretty good...just imagine when it opens in all the other place looking back at X2s figures in japan sk Tawain and china it could bring in another 20-30 mil

[Ebil Gig]

Damn, Sept. 9 for China!?:eek:Wow, I would be very mad if I had to wait for 5 extra months just to see a movie thats probably gonna be on DVD then.

Good to see X3 doing well internationally.:up:

[antariksh]

^ well that SUCKS.

It dropped HUGE in several KEY markets like UK, Germany, France and australia.

I was hoping for $40 million but man i am so pissed.

I guess this movie will end up with $190-195 overseas just like X2 which is extremely dissapointing.

I am still hoping X3 to do $190 million before it releases in JAPAN.

I can't belive it. Why FOX why did u had to rush this movie. See what happened. It is dropping HARD everywhere.

and btw POSEIDON ate into X3 and DVC potential gross this weekend at overseas boxoffice.

MI3 got $40 million on second weekend why can't X3 get it why???

DAMN U FOX!!!!

[phantom47]

wont people in china just DL it? why so late

[phantom47]

^ well that SUCKS.

It dropped HUGE in several KEY markets like UK, Germany, France and australia.

I was hoping for $40 million but man i am so pissed.

I guess this movie will end up with $190-195 overseas just like X2 which is extremely dissapointing.

OVERALL a FAILURE.

I can't belive it. Why FOX why did u had to rush this movie. See what happened. It is dropping HARD everywhere.

and btw POSEIDON ate into X3 and DVC potential gross this weekend at overseas boxoffice.

MI3 got $40 million on second weekend why can't X3 get it why???

DAMN U FOX!!!!it didnt have the code to deal with

[antariksh]

it didnt have the code to deal with

Well then FOX should have waited and released X3 this weekend at overseas boxoffice.

How many people still think it can do $190 million before it even releases in JAPAN.

[phantom47]

maybe not 190 but 175, and china and japan will bring in 17-22 mil

[antariksh]

See guys it is NOT just me but the entire media now feels like X3's drop both domestically and overseas is a BAD one.

This is a quote from the first artice of screendaily.com

"Sony thriller stays top as X-Men slides in second weekend. Warner disaster movie has mixed debuts."

It is true X3 is sliding badly and at this rate i don't think it will even reach $190 before JAPAN.

[antariksh]

maybe not 190 but 175, and china and japan will bring in 17-22 mil

WELL that means it WON'T DO $200 million overseas boxoffice afterall which FOX will be extremely dissapointed with.

Because last week someone from FOX said that they are ON TRACK for doing $200+ overseas. NOW it looks like it will STRUGGLE to even reach X2's overseas boxoffice.

Each X-men movie showed IMPROVEMENTS but this one will be called a DUD.

But i still like the movie.

[GL's Light]

Heads up, everyone: X3's weekend take has put the X-Men franchise over the billion dollar mark. :up:

[antariksh]

Heads up, everyone: X3's weekend take has put the X-Men franchise over the billion dollar mark. :up:

Well That is a GOOD news. :up:

Few franchises reach that mark. I am glad X-men did that.

But I still expect it to do $200+ overseas with another $240+ domestically.

[Downhere]

Well, personally, I feel that Saturday it will probably rise to around 15 million and then for Sunday get about the same as yesterday...10.4.

I was checking out the dailies from the same weekend last year and most movies had about the same or more business on Sunday than Friday (Madagascar, SW, and a couple of others) so it should score a 35 million dollar weekend. That's my personal guestimate.

Hey, I was pretty close...I hope the actuals are higher. :up:

[Daniella]

Well, I read in Yahoo! that X3 is about 175,000,000,00 in the second week and it already passed The Da Vinci Code ( wich made 172,000,000,00 )...

Dany

[antariksh]

Well guys now that X3 is over and i am 100% confident there won't be an X4 after this movies boxoffice performance both domestically and overseas, what franchise does FOX have now????

I mean star wars is over and X-men is over.

The spinoff's won't be performing well that is for sure so that is out of question.

ONLY F4. But will the sequel be able to do X2 kind of business. I doubt it even if the quality of the movie is much better than F4 because some people won't care about it because they will be like "Hey the first one sucked so no point in watching this"

I mean guys FOX is screwed.

[spideyboy_1111]

i love how much negativity is ooozing off these boards.. its disgusting.

yet.. all the polls are showing X3 are pretty positive.. interesting...

[Forever is over]

I believe this decline has everything to do with the fact that overall fans are somewhat dissapointed with this one. These types of movies thrive on the repeat viewings by hardcore fans. The general public will not see movies over and over again like we will. They may love the movie but will only see it once maybe twice during its theatrical run. I saw X2 5 times within the first 2 weeks of its release I have only seen The last stand one time and do not wish to see it again in theaters. I think that the hardcore fanbase may feel the same way hence the second week decline. ......Just didnt like this one is all. I know some people did but I dont personally know one person who thought this movie was great. Most seem content to settle for "It was alright" or my personal favorite "I thought it would suck a lot more". I cannot settle for an "alright" X-men movie and I bet there are many who feel the same.

[spideyboy_1111]

i still think the decline is simple... people who really wanted to see it the first week saw it.. those who didnt.. would rather save money and use it for gas... cost me $56 to fill up gas yesterday!

[antariksh]

I believe this decline has everything to do with the fact that overall fans are somewhat dissapointed with this one. These types of movies thrive on the repeat viewings by hardcore fans. The general public will not see movies over and over again like we will. They may love the movie but will only see it once maybe twice during its theatrical run. I saw X2 5 times within the first 2 weeks of its release I have only seen The last stand one time and do not wish to see it again in theaters. I think that the hardcore fanbase may feel the same way hence the second week decline. ......Just didnt like this one is all. I know some people did but I dont personally know one person who thought this movie was great. Most seem content to settle for "It was alright" or my personal favorite "I thought it would suck a lot more". I cannot settle for an "alright" X-men movie and I bet there are many who feel the same.

Oh so u mean F4 did good boxoffice due to repeat viewings from FANS????

Because i thought that F4 fans hated that movie just like lot of X-men fans hate X3.

Hmm i don't think so guys F4 got repeat viewings from kids and few families.

[danoyse]

Heads up, everyone: X3's weekend take has put the X-Men franchise over the billion dollar mark. :up:

Nice. :up:

They just had the box office report on the evening news...no forecasts of doom here. Just that's #2. :)

[Forever is over]

Fantastic 4 didnt do THAT great. I mean 154 million is good but not like Superblockbuster numbers. That being said I do think the gas price thing is a pretty legitimate point.

[Forever is over]

And also I believe had more fans liked the movie F4 would have been pretty huge as it was it made decent money but nothing close to awesome or even Rad box office.

[antariksh]

Fantastic 4 didnt do THAT great. I mean 154 million is good but not like Superblockbuster numbers. That being said I do think the gas price thing is a pretty legitimate point.

well no one expected it to EVEN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

most thought it will bomb like daredevil.

[Forever is over]

Ok nobody expected F4 to do that well But I think people thought The last stand would do a whole lot better than this in its second weekend. I Disliked the movie
but still expected it to beat The break up. I mean come on The Break up beat The last stand with 38 million I assumed it would easily make 45+ in the second weekend even if movies like this are frontloaded. I believe people just dont dig this one as much.

[antariksh]

Ok nobody expected F4 to do that well But I think people thought The last stand would do a whole lot better than this in its second weekend. I Disliked the movie
but still expected it to beat The break up. I mean come on The Break up beat The last stand with 38 million I assumed it would easily make 45+ in the second weekend even if movies like this are frontloaded. I believe people just dont dig this one as much.

I guess :(

oh well we won't get an X4 fine with me.

[Forever is over]

To be honest I dont care about all this box office rubbish anyway If people like the movie that should be good enough for them. I am just so angry with how I feel fox treated this movie that I am very interested in seing the movie dissapoint in terms of box office because money is the only language they understand. I want them to see how much it can hurt the box office take when you rush and half-a$$ a movie like this and anger fans.

[ProjectPat2280]

To be honest I dont care about all this box office rubbish anyway If people like the movie that should be good enough for them. I am just so angry with how I feel fox treated this movie that I am very interested in seing the movie dissapoint in terms of box office because money is the only language they understand. I want them to see how much it can hurt the box office take when you rush and half-a$$ a movie like this and anger fans.

Well it doesnt look like you going to get that. The movie is going to make a ton of money, hell it already has, and dont forget about DVD sales.

[antariksh]

Suggesting that fans rushed to see it as soon as possible, X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=x3.htm) devolved 67 percent to an estimated $34.4 million, the steepest post-Memorial Day opening drop on record. In 10 days, though, the costly Marvel Comics adaptation climbed to $175.7 million, a figure that X2: X-Men United (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=x2.htm) took 18 days to reach.

taken form boxofficemojo.com


there we go the media has now started it's JOB!!!!!!

[Forever is over]

I agree...to an extent. The movie has done well thus far but I dont think anyone can honestly say that the studio is not at least a little dissapointed in the second weekend showing. I mean what are the estimates for the total now? I think its like 250 million. That is a lot however it is not that much more than X2 and The Last Stand was 100 million dollars more expensive to make. I think its safe to assume that fox was hoping for a bit more. All the same I wish that I could make 32 million in one weekend. Preferably this weekend.

[TheVileOne]

Suggesting that fans rushed to see it as soon as possible, X-Men: The Last Stand (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=x3.htm) devolved 67 percent to an estimated $34.4 million, the steepest post-Memorial Day opening drop on record. In 10 days, though, the costly Marvel Comics adaptation climbed to $175.7 million, a figure that X2: X-Men United (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=x2.htm) took 18 days to reach.

taken form boxofficemojo.com


there we go the media has now started it's JOB!!!!!!
The reason it took 10 days was because ticket prices are higher than they were in 2003.

[Downhere]

The reason it took 10 days was because ticket prices are higher than they were in 2003.

But the ticket prices aren't that much higher. X3 is still doing pretty darn good.

[Advanced Dark]

X3 is selling about the same # OF TICKets as X2.

[Iceman]

10th highest 8 day opening
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/8day.htm
8th highest 9 day opening
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/9day.htm
9th highest 10 day opening
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/10day.htm

[Supreme Power]

Oh so u mean F4 did good boxoffice due to repeat viewings from FANS????

Because i thought that F4 fans hated that movie just like lot of X-men fans hate X3.

Hmm i don't think so guys F4 got repeat viewings from kids and few families.

It wasn't great but everybody didn't hate it.

[CaptainStacy]

The reason it took 10 days was because ticket prices are higher than they were in 2003.


Not in MY area....

[spideyboy_1111]

in ohio i use to pay about 7.50... but most places now have 9-10 bucks for a ticket

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I believe this decline has everything to do with the fact that overall fans are somewhat dissapointed with this one. These types of movies thrive on the repeat viewings by hardcore fans. The general public will not see movies over and over again like we will. They may love the movie but will only see it once maybe twice during its theatrical run. I saw X2 5 times within the first 2 weeks of its release I have only seen The last stand one time and do not wish to see it again in theaters. I think that the hardcore fanbase may feel the same way hence the second week decline. ......Just didnt like this one is all. I know some people did but I dont personally know one person who thought this movie was great. Most seem content to settle for "It was alright" or my personal favorite "I thought it would suck a lot more". I cannot settle for an "alright" X-men movie and I bet there are many who feel the same.

I totally agree, the people i know who saw it all think the same as me, which, that XMTLS was not an overly bad movie, it was an average one, but in terms of the potential this storyline had, it is a major dissapointment, i have saw this once in the cinema, but i wont be seeing it again until the DVD goes cheap.

[Forever is over]

Exactly. From a pure filmaking standpoint the movie was not bad in my opinion it was mediocre which in my opinion is worse because it could have been great. I would have rather thought the movie was just plain horrible so that I could at least enjoy it's badness but I cannot do that.

[Milkman95]

Having the largest post-Memorial Day Weekend drop ever is NOT a record I wanted X3 to have. I predicted about a 60% drop, but I never thought we'd see a 67% drop and have the film get taken over by The Break Up, a romantic comedy that has received even worse reviews than X3. Awful.

I'll have to check Hulk's second weekend numbers - This could be the steepest drop from a comic book film ever...........Marvel, DC, or otherwise :(

[Advanced Dark]

Again it's not as bad considering it's after a holiday weekend. Hulk had a similar drop and it didn't have a holiday weekend to fall down from.

[Advanced Dark]

Not in MY area....

Average ticket prices are up around the country as a whole. There's no arguing that.

[Jan Irisi]

Average ticket prices are up around the country as a whole. There's no arguing that.

Ticket prices in my area have been very steady as well. Actually I paid more to see X2 then I did for X3.

[Suiciety]

This may have been mentioned previously (I'm too lazy to weed through all the pages) but Fox is quickly learning that "word of mouth" isn't all that positive in re to X3. A lot of movies do well from "word of mouth" and a die hard fan base. Since a lot of us feel jaded and let down by X3, Fox isn't seeing the repeat theater visits by the movie's fan base.

But the movie is still doing pretty decent numbers, overall.

[Milkman95]

Again it's not as bad considering it's after a holiday weekend. Hulk had a similar drop and it didn't have a holiday weekend to fall down from.

Setting the record for the steepest drop after Memorial Day weekend isn't bad? 67% isn't bad? Losing to that joke of a film The Break Up isn't bad?

Sorry, but you're looking through X3 colored glasses here. As for Hulk's numbers, look how well that turned out.

[Advanced Dark]

Compare opening weekends Fri, Sat, & Monday to this past weekends, Fri-Sun to show a fair comparable % drop to a normal weekend.

[Advanced Dark]

Ticket prices in my area have been very steady as well. Actually I paid more to see X2 then I did for X3.

That means nothing to a Country's average.

[Jan Irisi]

That means nothing to a Country's average.

I know that. I was just sharing......

[Celestial]

The Hulk opened with $62m and dropped by at least 69%. So $122m, and 67% is a whole lot better.

The percentages are being dominated by the astonishing Friday opening. If you take that out, the figures follow a far more typical pattern.

[BigMac]

The Hulk opened with $62m and dropped by at least 69%. So $122m, and 67% is a whole lot better.

The percentages are being dominated by the astonishing Friday opening. If you take that out, the figures follow a far more typical pattern.

So, if you completely ignore what happened, it works. Right? The numbers are numbers. If the movie performed one weekend and tanked the next, you can not ignore it by saying it is based off a high opening weekend. Of course it was high, which is why it should have had legs. The majority of the people (outside this forum) did not like the movie. I know many people who decided not to go after my viewing party (10 people) began to say how much of a disappointment it was.
Word of mouth is what it's all about. The fanboys have already seen it. Singer's movies were able to bring in crowds after the fanboys, Ratner drivle was not.

[antariksh]

guys lets stop bashing about X3 second weekend numbers.

Let us all wait and see how it does this week and the weekend at the boxoffice.

Personally, i don't see X3 reaching the $250 million mark if it doesn't do $3 million each day this week and $15 million next weekend.

[JokerNick]

hey, look at the brightside, for all you fans, you will be able to get it on DVD by late augest

[LEX]

I thought that the rumors said that the DVD will be out around December? Is the release date confirmed yet?

[JokerNick]

I thought that the rumors said that the DVD will be out around December? Is the release date confirmed yet?

if this movie drops down to beleow 5th next week, I'm not saying it will, I guarentee we will see it on DVD around septmeber...............

[antariksh]

I thought that the rumors said that the DVD will be out around December? Is the release date confirmed yet?

If the movie keeps dropping like that and loses theatre counts very soon, which it will after this weeken. Then i think the august or september release date for X3 dvd sounds right.

[Milkman95]

Well, for the film to actually INCREASE it's screen count and set a record for the largest drop in the history of cinema after a Holiday Weekend, look for it to take another 60% drop this weekend with The Omen and Cars being released. That would be a weekend take between $13m - $15m.

Disappointing, but I guess it reflects that the film didn't live up to expectations.

[VinnieB]

Hey well i saw it three times in a course of a week 2wice in one day first day i was blown away and loved it as did all my friends after watching it a 3rd for me and 2nd for them they didnt like it as much as the first time its weird id agree it had it moments but aslong as they keep making xmen movies ill be happy.

[JokerNick]

If the movie keeps dropping like that and loses theatre counts very soon, which it will after this weeken. Then i think the august or september release date for X3 dvd sounds right.

get this, the theater I go to has something called the "ultra screen" which is a huge screen, 3x bigger then a normal one, they played x3 there the first week, you know whats playing now, antella and the bee, or whatever its called

[antariksh]

Btw X3 is already behind X2 after its second weekend in AUSTRALIA


X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Total Gross $AUD $11,329,952
Tracking US BO* down 36%
Release Date 25th May 2006
Distributor Fox
OFLC Rating M



Rank Date Week Gross S.C. AVG % +/- Track History* Cumulative
1 25th - 28th May 1 6,689,428 408 16,396 na down 37 down 37 6,689,428
1 1st - 4th Jun 2 2,997,527 396 7,570 -55 down 13 down 36 11,329,952







X2


Total Gross $AUD $16,444,180
Tracking US BO* down 23%
Release Date
30th April 2003
Distributor Fox
OFLC Rating
M



Rank
Date Week Gross S.C. AVG % +/- Cumulative
1
1st - 4th May
1 6,009,433 358 16,786 na 7,223,610
1
8th - 11th May
2 2,740,495 359 7,634 -55 11,574,549
2
15th - 18th May
3 1,296,846 358 3,622 -53 13,609,238
4
22nd - 25th May
4 720,426 245 2,941 -44 14,609,238
6
29th May - 4th Jun
5 534,536 212 2,521 -26 15,341,599
6
5th - 8th Jun
6 448,670 189 2,374 -16 15,937,303
13
12th - 15th Jun
7 123,422 131 942 -73 16,205,503
19
19th - 22nd Jun
8 52,960 50 1,059 -57 16,292,706











SOURCE" moviemarshal.com

[GL's Light]

The third weekend drop should stabilize. If it can stabilize to 45% then X3 may still have a shot at $ 250 million, but if it drops by 55% then it'll likely end its run at around $ 230 million.

X3 should be 4th this weekend. Cars will be # 1 with a big take, The Omen likely # 2, The Break-Up likely # 3. If the The Break-Up tumbles in its second weekend there's a slim chance that X3 could come in at # 3.

[kakashi]

I think the reason for the drop off is because people rushed in to see it when it first came out.

I'm not an expert when it comes to Box office predictions, but even with the drop off and whatnot, it's still a pretty succesfull movie right? not all movie should make Spider-man numbers to be considered succesfull.

[antariksh]

Hey guys accoding to that article X3 dropped 58% on second weekend in australia but it infact dropped 55%.

http://www.moviemarshal.com/

the first article tells it all.

I am guessing the actual numbers will be atleast 2-3 million more for X3.

They are overestimating the drop for X3 internationally.

[KenK]

The third weekend drop should stabilize. If it can stabilize to 45% then X3 may still have a shot at $ 250 million, but if it drops by 55% then it'll likely end its run at around $ 230 million.

X3 should be 4th this weekend. Cars will be # 1 with a big take, The Omen likely # 2, The Break-Up likely # 3. If the The Break-Up tumbles in its second weekend there's a slim chance that X3 could come in at # 3.

That's another thing to consider. The Break-Up might take enough of a dive for X3 to rebound and come out ahead of it this weekend. 38 million is impressive for any romantic comedy, but the bad reviews and competion on the horizon could kill its momentum.

[antariksh]

GUYS I JUST REALZIED that WORLDCUP starts ON JUNE 9th.

That is seriously going to destroy X3 boxoffice in EUROPE guranteed!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man forget about $400 million. This will top out with $380 worldwide.

AMEN

[GL's Light]

if this movie drops down to beleow 5th next week, I'm not saying it will, I guarentee we will see it on DVD around septmeber...............
Around September is the likely DVD release date no matter what the box office ends up at. A three to four month DVD release window is now typical.

[JokerNick]

they will want to release the dvd while the movie is still on people's minds.................

[okim08]

Antarkish....do you have anything better to do than trash this movie?? How much do you get paid for your negativity??? When did a soon to be 200 million dollar movie become a bust ??? It's like the freaking sky is falling in here. You'd think Antarkissmyars is the care bear anti-christ or something.

[antariksh]

You know what guys i think FOX should have released X3 on May 5th and PARAMOUNT should have released MI3 on may 26th.

It is embarassing that MI3 had already done $194 million overseas including this weekend. And still has Japan, India and china where the movie will take in more than 60+ million.

X3 on the other hand SHOULD do $200+ million but will end up with the same amount as X2 overseas.

If X3 was released on May 5th it would have NOT only been #1 for two weeks in a row domestically but would have also done $195+ million like MI3 has done so far overseas. Unfortunately it had to go against DVC which affected it a LOT and now with WORLD CUP coming on june 9th i am 100% sure it will COLLAPSE in international market.

Oh well just shows that hollywood doesn't know when to release which movie depending on the market condition.

It is safe to say that TOP 5 movies of the year 2006 worldwide BY THE END OF SUMMER and who knows maybe the whole year will be

1) POTC 2
2) DVC
3) SR
4) CARS
5) ICE AGE 2


very dissapointing very dissapointing for X3.

[okim08]

You know what guys i think FOX should have released X3 on May 5th and PARAMOUNT should have released MI3 on may 26th.

It is embarassing that MI3 had already done $194 million overseas including this weekend. And still has Japan, India and china where the movie will take in more than 60+ million.

X3 on the other hand SHOULD do $200+ million but will end up with the same amount as X2 overseas.

If X3 was released on May 5th it would have NOT only been #1 for two weeks in a row domestically but would have also done $195+ million like MI3 has done so far overseas. Unfortunately it had to go against DVC which affected it a LOT and now with WORLD CUP coming on june 9th i am 100% sure it will COLLAPSE in international market.

Oh well just shows that hollywood doesn't know when to release which movie depending on the market condition.

It is safe to say that TOP 5 movies of the year 2006 worldwide BY THE END OF SUMMER and who knows maybe the whole year will be

1) POTC 2
2) DVC
3) SR
4) CARS
5) ICE AGE 2


very dissapointing very dissapointing for X3.

Did your mom not hug you enough???? How many more times do we all need to say to you, "WE GET THE POINT!"

[antariksh]

^ COOL!!!

Just to clarify somethings, I thought X3 was the BEST x-men movie.
The first two were OVERRATED.

But i am not bashing X3. I am bashing the boxoffice performance of X3.

[okim08]

^ COOL!!!

Just to clarify somethings, I thought X3 was the BEST x-men movie.
The first two were OVERRATED.

But i am not bashing X3. I am bashing the boxoffice performance of X3.

But, at this point what is all the bashing going to accomplish. Obviously, we're all dissapointed that X3 didn't do well last weekend. We're still going to get our spin-off movies, and even a chance for X4. My point is, this is still going to make money for the studio.

[GL's Light]

You know what guys i think FOX should have released X3 on May 5th and PARAMOUNT should have released MI3 on may 26th.

It is embarassing that MI3 had already done $194 million overseas including this weekend. And still has Japan, India and china where the movie will take in more than 60+ million.

X3 on the other hand SHOULD do $200+ million but will end up with the same amount as X2 overseas.

If X3 was released on May 5th it would have NOT only been #1 for two weeks in a row domestically but would have also done $195+ million like MI3 has done so far overseas. Unfortunately it had to go against DVC which affected it a LOT and now with WORLD CUP coming on june 9th i am 100% sure it will COLLAPSE in international market.

Oh well just shows that hollywood doesn't know when to release which movie depending on the market condition.

It is safe to say that TOP 5 movies of the year 2006 worldwide BY THE END OF SUMMER and who knows maybe the whole year will be

1) POTC 2
2) DVC
3) SR
4) CARS
5) ICE AGE 2


very dissapointing very dissapointing for X3.

Some franchises are more popular in North America, others in international markets. The Mission: Impossible franchise has always been bigger in foreign markets than the X-Men franchise. Mission: Impossible II made $ 330 million in foreign markets alone, so MI3's take is actually a significant drop.

In worldwide box office MI2 was the top grossing film of 2000. Yet X3 will end up making more than MI3. The X-Men franchise has held up much better than the MI franchise on its third outing. Also, domestic box office is more lucrative for the studios than foreign box office because they get a bigger cut of it.

There's really no need for this self-flagellating.

[TrailerMusic]

My point is, this is still going to make money for the studio.

So People can not comment on how this Movie could have been better & it could have made even more Money :confused: Any Movie can make Money for the Studio. You cant just simply talk Positive without the Negative & vice versa. If you want to talk about Positive only then make your own Site Forum. Heres an idea for ya

www.xmenthelaststandpositivethoughtsonly.com

You just simply can not have Positive without the Negative. Never going to happen

[Son Of Logan]

At this point Fox has recouped their money. It's up to X3 to show it has legs and try to top the $400 mill mark. Until then there will be little talk of an X4 and little hope for one.

But there are still some big international markets yet to open. :up:

[Advanced Dark]

hey, look at the brightside, for all you fans, you will be able to get it on DVD by late augest

Still the coward huh Nick. Refuse to admit I'm right so cherry picking the negative. Remember I said X3 would hit 100 million in 4 days and you said that was ridiculous, it would never happen, I was dillusional, crazy, etc...

STFU dunce.

Till your man enough to admit your wrong you're nothing but a joke as your name suggests. It far exceeded 100 million in 4 days and X3 is way ahead of where you thought it would be. Per your posts X3 wasn't going to even hit 85 million in 4 days so were way ahead of where you thought so even with a 67% drop (after a holiday) it's far exceeding your moronic estimates. You said it wouldn't beat X2. LOL

[okim08]

So People can not comment on how this Movie could have been better & it could have made even more Money :confused: Any Movie can make Money for the Studio. You cant just simply talk Positive without the Negative & vice versa. If you want to talk about Positive only then make your own Site Forum. Heres an idea for ya

www.xmenthelaststandpositivethoughtsonly.com (http://www.xmenthelaststandpositivethoughtsonly.com)

You just simply can not have Positive without the Negative. Never going to happen

I have no problem with the negative. My problem is the same people are re-stating the same thing over and over again. I mean the movie is finished. People can B and Moan all they want, but Cyclops is still dead, Rogue took the cure. The movie dropped a gazillion percent since it first opened. Don't we already know this???? In the end, the money this film makes isn't going in our pockets. People in here think they're the CEO of Fox or something.

[Cold2daToucH004]

well no one expected it to EVEN THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

most thought it will bomb like daredevil.
Though, when considering spider-man numbers, daredevil was a huge let down... I cant believe some people call a hundred million dollar+ movie a failure.

Lets get a few things straight on these 'numbers'. First off, X-Men did pretty damn good considering all the negative and mediocre reviews it recieved. It made 107 mill opening weekend. Again movies shouldn't be compared to spider-man's numbers, but you know what? That came pretty f''kin close for a movie that was supposed to bomb.

Secondly, the movie is on track to make over 2 hundred mill domestically, and already smashed that mark in total earnings with worldwide numbers coming in at $260,354,662. WE ARE ONLY IN ITS THIRD WEEK OF RELEASE. Is a 67% drop off big? Yeah, but considering the movie made 102 mill in its opening weekend, I don't think anyone should be surprised, or react the way all of you are.

Bad word of mouth, negative publicity... bla bla bla. It had all that when the movie was released opening day, it went on to have the second largest first day opening. The 4th largest weekend, and so far, the best movie of the year.

All this negativity is a bunch of BS. All of you know damn well, that when they special edition DVD is released, you will all be there first day to pick it up. Thats what the fans do, the true X-Men fans. And if you expect this movie to not dominate in DVD sales as well, your incredibly wrong. This movie will rock in DVD sales.

Now am I saying this movie is going to gross 250 mill domestic? No, I dont know to be honest with you. But did it have a great run in the box office? Hell yeah it did. With a bunch of records set, grossing over the movies budget in just two weeks (worldwide). Thats one hell of an accomplishment. X-Fans should rejoice, this movie is doing great.

[okim08]

Though, when considering spider-man numbers, daredevil was a huge let down... I cant believe some people call a hundred million dollar+ movie a failure.

Lets get a few things straight on these 'numbers'. First off, X-Men did pretty damn good considering all the negative and mediocre reviews it recieved. It made 107 mill opening weekend. Again movies shouldn't be compared to spider-man's numbers, but you know what? That came pretty f''kin close for a movie that was supposed to bomb.

Secondly, the movie is on track to make over 2 hundred mill domestically, and already smashed that mark in total earnings with worldwide numbers coming in at $260,354,662. WE ARE ONLY IN ITS THIRD WEEK OF RELEASE. Is a 67% drop off big? Yeah, but considering the movie made 102 mill in its opening weekend, I don't think anyone should be surprised, or react the way all of you are.

Bad word of mouth, negative publicity... bla bla bla. It had all that when the movie was released opening day, it went on to have the second largest first day opening. The 4th largest weekend, and so far, the best movie of the year.

All this negativity is a bunch of BS. All of you know damn well, that when they special edition DVD is released, you will all be there first day to pick it up. Thats what the fans do, the true X-Men fans. And if you expect this movie to not dominate in DVD sales as well, your incredibly wrong. This movie will rock in DVD sales.

Now am I saying this movie is going to gross 250 mill domestic? No, I dont know to be honest with you. But did it have a great run in the box office? Hell yeah it did. With a bunch of records set, grossing over the movies

budget in just two weeks (worldwide). Thats one hell of an accomplishment. X-Fans should rejoice, this movie is doing great.

Amen to that. It's as if the money is going into their pockets or something, depending on how this movie does.

[GL's Light]

Though, when considering spider-man numbers, daredevil was a huge let down... I cant believe some people call a hundred million dollar+ movie a failure.
It was only a letdown for people expecting Daredevil to do anywhere close to Spider-Man's numbers, a level of expectation that was wildly unrealistic. Daredevil was a very solid hit.

[Cold2daToucH004]

It was only a letdown for people expecting Daredevil to do anywhere close to Spider-Man's numbers, a level of expectation that was wildly unrealistic. Daredevil was a very solid hit.
Exactly. DareDevil had a solid doing at the box-office.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It was only a letdown for people expecting Daredevil to do anywhere close to Spider-Man's numbers, a level of expectation that was wildly unrealistic. Daredevil was a very solid hit.If DD was such a huge hit why didn't Fox pony up 100mil for a sequel?

[Storm22]

Though, when considering spider-man numbers, daredevil was a huge let down... I cant believe some people call a hundred million dollar+ movie a failure.

Lets get a few things straight on these 'numbers'. First off, X-Men did pretty damn good considering all the negative and mediocre reviews it recieved. It made 107 mill opening weekend. Again movies shouldn't be compared to spider-man's numbers, but you know what? That came pretty f''kin close for a movie that was supposed to bomb.

Secondly, the movie is on track to make over 2 hundred mill domestically, and already smashed that mark in total earnings with worldwide numbers coming in at $260,354,662. WE ARE ONLY IN ITS THIRD WEEK OF RELEASE. Is a 67% drop off big? Yeah, but considering the movie made 102 mill in its opening weekend, I don't think anyone should be surprised, or react the way all of you are.

Bad word of mouth, negative publicity... bla bla bla. It had all that when the movie was released opening day, it went on to have the second largest first day opening. The 4th largest weekend, and so far, the best movie of the year.

All this negativity is a bunch of BS. All of you know damn well, that when they special edition DVD is released, you will all be there first day to pick it up. Thats what the fans do, the true X-Men fans. And if you expect this movie to not dominate in DVD sales as well, your incredibly wrong. This movie will rock in DVD sales.

Now am I saying this movie is going to gross 250 mill domestic? No, I dont know to be honest with you. But did it have a great run in the box office? Hell yeah it did. With a bunch of records set, grossing over the movies budget in just two weeks (worldwide). Thats one hell of an accomplishment. X-Fans should rejoice, this movie is doing great.

Well said!!:up: