X3 Box Office Tracker

[Milkman95]

How funny such a POS is gonna exceed X1, X2, all the Batman films, etc...:O

Well, thankfully box office doesn't equal quality. Plus the Batman franchise has done more money than the X-franchise could ever dream of. Nice try though.

[Advanced Dark]

^ Not true Milkyone. The X-Men franchise with 3 films has generated well over a billion dollars average well over 330 million per film while the Batman Franchise totaled including animated feature films has generated 1.6 billion with like 7 films average barely over 260 per film. Batman is an older franchise in publication but the X-Men franchise has sold more books over the last 30 years than Batman, more video games, & as a whole...more toys. Back to box office figures. Yeah Batman with many more films has made over 500 million more. That's one more X-Film to equal that. Howmany Batman spinoffs will be successful? Catwoman? LOL I did enjoy Batman Begins though however one persons perception of quality is not entertaining to the rest which is why nobody flocked to see Cinderella Man, why MI:3 underperformed, why King Kong had a lousy opening per expectations, etc...


X-Men Averages
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/Xmen.php

Genre Averages
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/SuperHero.php

[GL's Light]

How funny such a POS is gonna exceed X1, X2, all the Batman films, etc...:O
He wasn't referring to the film as a POS; he was referring to the poster.

The X-Men and Batman franchises average out to quite similar box office drawing power.

[Milkman95]

^ Not true Milkyone. The X-Men franchise with 3 films has generated well over a billion dollars average well over 330 million per film while the Batman Franchise totaled including animated feature films has generated 1.6 billion with like 7 films average barely over 260 per film. Batman is an older franchise in publication but the X-Men franchise has sold more books over the last 30 years than Batman, more video games, & as a whole...more toys.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/Xmen.php

Well, that's debatable when you adjust for inflation. The first Batman film sold MORE tickets than any of the X films and was on par with Spider-man. You could debate this all day I'm sure.

Bottom line is I really like both franchises but in the end I'm a Batman fan first and foremost. That's probably why I can't wait to see a stand-alone Wolverine film with David Fincher directing.......

[Advanced Dark]

^ David Fincher did such a good job with Fight Club I'd let him do anything. I enjoyed Batman Begins, I'll be first in line to see Supes, but the X-Men are just more popular amongst the kids nowadays. But yes the early Batman films sold more tickets which is quite obvious.

[Carp Man]

Well, thankfully box office doesn't equal quality. Plus the Batman franchise has done more money than the X-franchise could ever dream of. Nice try though.

Milk that sounds like the same song and dance you expounded when FF came out. Is that alwys your argument when Marvel puts out a movie ? Box office doesn't equal quality. I would have thought by now you would have changed your song. The #'s vvvvvvvvvv say it all. 318.1 million in 11 days.

[GL's Light]

Showbiz Data has Tuesday's numbers:

1. The Omen - $ 12.5 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 4.1 million
3. X3 - $ 3 million

BOM should have the detailed breakdown shortly.

Looks like X3 will hold steady or even post a tiny increase from Monday's take. Good news!

[antariksh]

Showbiz Data has Tuesday's numbers:

1. The Omen - $ 12.5 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 4.1 million
3. X3 - $ 3 million

BOM should have the detailed breakdown shortly.

Looks like X3 will hold steady or even post a tiny increase from Monday's take. Good news!

THE sad part is that "the break up" also increased on tuesday. LOL

And holy **** looks like FOX marketing trick worked really well for "The Omen"

[PhoenixRisen]

Well, thankfully box office doesn't equal quality. Plus the Batman franchise has done more money than the X-franchise could ever dream of. Nice try though.
Funny how box office = quality when there is a drop in the numbers. Nice try though!!! :D

[WorthyStevens]

How funny such a POS is gonna exceed X1, X2, all the Batman films, etc...:O

Almost all the Batman films.

The first Batman made in the neighborhood of $250 million. With 'Cars' coming out this weekend, I have doubts X3 will make more than $230 million.

[crappymovie]

Almost all the Batman films.

The first Batman made in the neighborhood of $250 million. With 'Cars' coming out this weekend, I have doubts X3 will make more than $230 million.

I say it makes $240 million. Cars should have a different demographic, not saying this film is still playing to a 'sophisticated' audience at this time. Click, however, will likely steal all remaining demographics who are still seeing this film. So a $240 million performance? Success? Sure...if you don't look at the negative costs.

[pt_photo_inc]

X3 is going to fall of the map... i went to a crowded sold out theater to see omen last night.... people are ready to move on to find the next big eye catcher. that is the problem with movies that are only eye candy.... no one cares to see again once you know the candy you are ready for different candy. Now if it was a brillant story line as well.... welllll... maybe we would go back

[Carp Man]

Funny how box office = quality when there is a drop in the numbers. Nice try though!!! :D

Yea it's the same song and dance as when FF had their 59 % drop week 2. But you won't hear word 1 from him if Superman drops big 2nd weekend. Box office = quality when its DC property. When It's Marvel Box office drop 2nd weekend = crappy movie.

[Carp Man]

X3 is going to fall of the map... i went to a crowded sold out theater to see omen last night.... people are ready to move on to find the next big eye catcher. that is the problem with movies that are only eye candy.... no one cares to see again once you know the candy you are ready for different candy. Now if it was a brillant story line as well.... welllll... maybe we would go back

Drop off the map ? What #'s are you looking at ? The #'s are below vvvvv

[Karea07]

Sorry i have been gone...but you got your break from me..... now,


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

X3 enters the ranks of some of the worst movies of all times with some of the biggest 2nd week drops! Putting it right next to ELEKTRA! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

serves fox right!

X3 dropped huge yes... but it had such a HUGE opening. X3 made more in its second week than Elektra did total.

[antariksh]

Yea it's the same song and dance as when FF had their 59 % drop week 2. But you won't hear word 1 from him if Superman drops big 2nd weekend.

Ya so true.

Wait when superman returns comes out. When it drops 50% or above on its second weekend i will make fun of it and humiliate superman.

And btw superman is WAY more popular than Fantastic four and x-men so it SHOULD not drop 50% or above even if POTC 2 is coming the weekend after SR but if it does then NO ONE WILL STOP ME FROM HUMILIATING SUPERMAN AND DC.

[crappymovie]

Funny how box office = quality when there is a drop in the numbers. Nice try though!!! :D

It's not about 'quality.' The movie just has to connect with it's target audience: ie. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. It opened HUGE as well, but something connected with the audience. It WAS a quality movie, well liked by critics and the audience. On the flip side, Azkaban didn't do as well, because although it was a quality film, it didn't connect (people said it wasn't a Harry Potter movie, too dark..and although I thought it was a fantastic film, I agree that it didn't have the "magical" quality of the first two, although they were poorer films.)

For some reason, this film hasn't connected with it's audience. Or has it....We just have to wait and see. Next weekend will be the final indicator.

[GL's Light]

Ya so true.

Wait when superman returns comes out. When it drops 50% or above on its second weekend i will make fun of it and humiliate superman.

And btw superman is WAY more popular than Fantastic four and x-men so it SHOULD not drop 50% or above even if POTC 2 is coming the weekend after SR but if it does then NO ONE WILL STOP ME FROM HUMILIATING SUPERMAN AND DC.
To be blunt - don't be an idiot. Pissing matches between fans of various franchises are very boring and tiresome to those of us who are fans of both franchises.

[pt_photo_inc]

X3 dropped huge yes... but it had such a HUGE opening. X3 made more in its second week than Elektra did total.

well.... daredevil didnt have a following... and you cant deny that the second record set by X3 was the TOP PERCENTAGE DROP from second week! I think that fox deserves a full on collapse on all thier super hero movies. I dont want to see them suck... but how else is there going to be a point made to fox that you have more potential then what you are putting out?

[Carp Man]

Ya so true.

Wait when superman returns comes out. When it drops 50% or above on its second weekend i will make fun of it and humiliate superman.

And btw superman is WAY more popular than Fantastic four and x-men so it SHOULD not drop 50% or above even if POTC 2 is coming the weekend after SR but if it does then NO ONE WILL STOP ME FROM HUMILIATING SUPERMAN AND DC.

Well I don't rub peoples noses in it. And you shouldn't either. They know the truth, they just have to admit it to themselfs. Marvel has got it all over DC.

Lifetime Gross Total (14): $1,996,603,377
Average: $142,614,527
Opening Gross Average (14): $50,118,154 (Wide Releases Only)

Marvel.

Lifetime Gross Total (59): $4,606,769,979
Average: $78,080,847
Opening Gross Average (55): $24,670,415 (Wide Releases Only)

DC.

45 more movies. Can't carry Stan the Man's, you know what. The proff of the pudding is in the #'s. The next argument you'll hear is inflation. Been round and round with these guys durring FF's run.

[Fanticon]

Ya so true.

Wait when superman returns comes out. When it drops 50% or above on its second weekend i will make fun of it and humiliate superman.

And btw superman is WAY more popular than Fantastic four and x-men so it SHOULD not drop 50% or above even if POTC 2 is coming the weekend after SR but if it does then NO ONE WILL STOP ME FROM HUMILIATING SUPERMAN AND DC.

Don't forget to include Singer

[antariksh]

Don't forget to include Singer

OH YA!!!!

i frogot that.

Thanks for reminding me.

[GL's Light]

Well I don't rub peoples noses in it. And you shouldn't either. They know the truth, they just have to admit it to themselfs. Marvel has got it all over DC.

Lifetime Gross Total (14): $1,996,603,377
Average: $142,614,527
Opening Gross Average (14): $50,118,154 (Wide Releases Only)

Marvel.

Lifetime Gross Total (59): $4,606,769,979
Average: $78,080,847
Opening Gross Average (55): $24,670,415 (Wide Releases Only)

DC.

45 more movies. Can't carry Stan the Man's, you know what. The proff of the pudding is in the #'s

Firstly, the international figures for the Superman sequels aren't available, so that's going to throw the comparison out. Secondly, if you adjust for inflation you'll get a very different picture. Thirdly, you're coming off like an infantile fanboy.

[Carp Man]

It's not about 'quality.' The movie just has to connect with it's target audience: ie. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. It opened HUGE as well, but something connected with the audience. It WAS a quality movie, well liked by critics and the audience. On the flip side, Azkaban didn't do as well, because although it was a quality film, it didn't connect (people said it wasn't a Harry Potter movie, too dark..and although I thought it was a fantastic film, I agree that it didn't have the "magical" quality of the first two, although they were poorer films.)

For some reason, this film hasn't connected with it's audience. Or has it....We just have to wait and see. Next weekend will be the final indicator.

Well said. Forget quality. People enjoyed it, the #'s say that, end of story. It's not about quality, but connecting with as many as you can. We the fans care about quality, but the studios only care about the bottom line, as any busisness does.

[Fanticon]

If Narnia hadn't come out right after HP:GOF I think it would have broke 300m

[Carp Man]

Firstly, the international figures for the Superman sequels aren't available, so that's going to throw the comparison out. Secondly, if you adjust for inflation you'll get a very different picture. Thirdly, you're coming off like an infantile fanboy.

I am a fanboy for Marvel 1st and formost. Dc doesn't even come a close 2nd. Didn't I tell ya the next thing would be inflation ? If you were here during FF's run, and you hung in the FF boards, and remember The Thing 2005, you know right where I stand.

[GL's Light]

I am a fanboy for Marvel 1st and formost. Dc doesn't even come a close 2nd. Didn't I tell ya the next thing would be inflation ?
DC and Marvel are both great comic companies. They've both had film adaptations that have been big hits, and both have had misses. Inflation has to be taken into account when comparing box office of films released decades apart. If you don't realize that then you're a bit thick.

[Obsidian]

I am a fanboy for Marvel 1st and formost. Dc doesn't even come a close 2nd. Didn't I tell ya the next thing would be inflation ? If you were here during FF's run, and you hung in the FF boards, and remember The Thing 2005, you know right where I stand.

well then...we can't really get an unbiased opinion on a DC movie from you:o

[#1Batmanfan]

i take quality over how much a movie takes and in this case dc is making way better movies than marvel besides spider man what do u have ???? nothing

[Obsidian]

i take quality over how much a movie takes and in this case dc is making way better movies than marvel besides spider man what do u have ???? nothing

It doesn't help that FOX practically butchers every comic book property that comes through their door. If they had put any effort into these films, like they did with the first two X-Men films, Marvel would've had a pretty significant edge over DC.

[GreenKToo]

Ya,I prefer D.C. myself.Marvel is ok,but superman's the man.I did like the spidey movies though,and I am looking forward to spidey 3,but it cant compare to my excitement for S.R.

[Carp Man]

well then...we can't really get an unbiased opinion on a DC movie from you:o

Going to say this 1 last time. I SAW all 4 Superman movies, and OWN the 1st 2. I SAW 3 of the 4 Batman movies and OWN 2. I WATCHED and ENJOYED the Batman tv show, and I still do when I can catch reruns. I still HAVE the model of the Batmobile I built from a kit in 1967. I have NOTHING against the charactors. I have a problem with you DC fanboys, who think Batman and Superman are the gods of the comic universe. Their not. Marvel rules, the FF the 1st family of Marvel rules, Stan the man rules, Jack "King" Kirby rules, Avi who took Marvel and brought it back from the depths of dispair rules. Can I make myself any plainer ?

[#1Batmanfan]

how many kids do u see wear ff t shirts hardly anyone u ask anyone they will know more about batman and superman than most of marvel

[Carp Man]

DC and Marvel are both great comic companies. They've both had film adaptations that have been big hits, and both have had misses. Inflation has to be taken into account when comparing box office of films released decades apart. If you don't realize that then you're a bit thick.

I am thick. I'm Italian, and a Taurus. And I'll never budge off my opinion. And inflation is still bogus. Superman would not make a kazillion dollars today as some say.Not with todays entertainment world.

[Carp Man]

It doesn't help that FOX practically butchers every comic book property that comes through their door. If they had put any effort into these films, like they did with the first two X-Men films, Marvel would've had a pretty significant edge over DC.

The edge is quite significant.

[Advanced Dark]

X3 made another 3 million on Tuesday totally 181 million domestic per http://www.showbizdata.com

321.1 million worldwide.

The omen opened with 12 million.

[BMM]

The Omen had quite a good opening for opening on a Tuesday.

[phantom47]

I thought X3 would have been less due to omen but it did better than Monday

[Obsidian]

The edge is quite significant.

Really? I haven't seen it, since FOX seems more concerned with providing disposable entertainment than high quality films. Eventually they'll make their own "Batman and Robin" and their comic book films will screech to a halt. Hopefully that will spur the shareholders of FOX to call for Rothman's resignation and then a revitalization of comic book films under the wing of a new CEO who will actually strive to get great talent to bring the audience high quality films.

[GL's Light]

BOM has the full numbers:

1. The Omen - $ 12,633,666 (666! The studio must've engineered that.)
2. The Break-Up - $ 3,990,990 (+ 2%)
3. X3 - $ 3,025,777 (+ 3.2%)

X3's domestic total stands at $ 181,307,083, and its worldwide total at $ 321,136,506.

X2 dropped 4.83% on its second Tuesday for a take of $ 2.858 million. This is the first time since Thursday that X3 has taken more than X2 on a comparable day.

[Carp Man]

Mojo has updated the #'s as of June the 6th. Updated #'s below. vvvv

[Carp Man]

Eventually they'll make their own "Batman and Robin" and their comic book films will screech to a halt.

Noone stays on top for ever. But don't hold your breath waiting. Spiderman 3, FF2, Ghost Rider. And the beat goes on. :)

[Milkman95]

Yea it's the same song and dance as when FF had their 59 % drop week 2. But you won't hear word 1 from him if Superman drops big 2nd weekend. Box office = quality when its DC property. When It's Marvel Box office drop 2nd weekend = crappy movie.

Hilarious. You'll never learn, will you?

If SR drops 67.1% or more, I'll face the music. The thing is, BB's drop was under 50%, so I don't know why you're bringing that up. Not only was BB a better movie, it did better financially.

Since SR has POTC2 to deal with and not some bad romantic comedy, it will drop big. At least it won't be taking second behind some junk film.........

[Carp Man]

Hilarious. You'll never learn, will you?

If SR drops 67.1% or more, I'll face the music. The thing is, BB's drop was under 50%, so I don't know why you're bringing that up. Not only was BB a better movie, it did better financially.

Since SR has POTC2 to deal with and not some bad romantic comedy, it will drop big. At least it won't be taking second behind some junk film.........

Only reason it did well is because Jen and Vince are an issue. Just like Cruz jumpping up and down on Oprah's couch. It's publicity, plain and simple. If they wrern't an issue, it prob wouldn't have made 15 million. And no I'll never learn. Marvel still rules. And as far as SR is concerned, I'll be watching with great intrest, and I'll put in my 50 cents when it comes to the cheep movie. And by the way, have you been keeping up on the goinigs on with the movie of 2007 ? Lot's of moving and shaking going on up in Vancouver. FF 2 will rule once again. :thing:

[CaptainStacy]

X3's domestic total stands at $ 181,307,083, and its worldwide total at $ 321,136,506.

Wow, in less than two weeks?

That's X-cellent!

[Karea07]

how many kids do u see wear ff t shirts hardly anyone u ask anyone they will know more about batman and superman than most of marvel

really? most kids i know only know about spider-man, wolverine and hulk. they didnt see batman begins.

[Iceman]

BOM has the full numbers:

1. The Omen - $ 12,633,666 (666! The studio must've engineered that.)
2. The Break-Up - $ 3,990,990 (+ 2%)
3. X3 - $ 3,025,777 (+ 3.2%)

X3's domestic total stands at $ 181,307,083, and its worldwide total at $ 321,136,506.

X2 dropped 4.83% on its second Tuesday for a take of $ 2.858 million. This is the first time since Thursday that X3 has taken more than X2 on a comparable day.

:up:

Updated 1st post with these figures.



As you say, all these 666 references are engineered. How lame and obvious. :down

I would have been more scared if the numbers had ended in anything but 666. ;)

[Iceman]

X3 is currently 86th in the all time domestic box office charts. Not bad for 12 days work.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

[Advanced Dark]

It'll break 400 really fast and start zooming towards loftier levels. Not sure if it'll hit 5 but if it can hold up throughout the weekdays and pull off 16-20 million this weekend you never know. International is kicking ass. It doesn't matter if it's #1 or not against DaVinci it just has to outperform X2.

[Iceman]

It'll break 400 really fast and start zooming towards loftier levels. Not sure if it'll hit 5 but if it can hold up throughout the weekdays and pull off 16-20 million this weekend you never know. International is kicking ass. It doesn't matter if it's #1 or not against DaVinci it just has to outperform X2.

Yeah Da Vinci is in it's own league.

X3's international figures sound disappointing until you compare with X2 and then everything looks rosy, especially with the amazing domestic figures.

Everyone seems to forget that the opening weekend was a massive surprise and focus on the obvious drops since.

[narrows101]

Get this about Pirates of the Caribbean (even though I saw the first one, I won't be seeing the second one since I didn't think that first one was that great but I guess not many agreed with me).

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-2-tracking-monster/

Pirates of Caribbean 2 Tracking Titanic (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-2-tracking-monster/)

I'm told the latest tracking for Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean 2 (aka Dead Man's Chest) "is as big as any film in history." Either there's a gross error, or the Magic Kingdom has Titanic on its hands opening wide July 7th. Seriously, could it beat that box office wonder? Well, Pirates 1 earned $654 mil, so it's not impossible. The buzz on P2 even before the summer started was that this was the one to beat. Because it hits the kiddie / teen / adult trifecta in terms of audience appeal. At this time when it's rare for a film to sustain box office even two weeks out, P1 kept racking up $$$ because teen girls went gaga and kept seeing the movie over and over again for Orlando Bloom, who's also smartly recast in P2, just like they did for Leo in Titanic. Add Keira Knightley for some male eye candy, and the tracking make sense. Indeed, the agencies' motion picture meetings today were all abuzz about the tracking phenom of Pirates 2. I never thought I'd ever see Johnny Depp become of the biggest box office stars in Hollywood. Just shows what long hair, eye makeup and nice jewelry can do for a guy.

[Iceman]

That's mad. :eek:

Do you know how they work this kind of thing out Narrows?

[GL's Light]

The studios run tracking polls - very similar to political polls taken during campaigns - to gauge how many people are aware of a film, how many have decided to definitely see it, how many might see it, and how many aren't interested. These polls are used to adjust marketing campaigns to better hit key demographics, and as predictors of how a film is likely to perform.

Pirates 2 is gonna go through the roof, no question. In fact, it might just be the film to beat Spider-Man's opening weekend record. But it's really piling the pressure on if the media starts to suggest that it could do Titanic-level numbers. No film should be encumbered with that level of expectation.

[J.Howlett]

Pirates 2 won't hit Titanic numbers but the numbers will be ridiculous once that film is released.

In all honesty, I feel a bit sorry for Superman Returns because it just doesn't have enough room to gather as much as it can before Pirates 2 hits.

Pirates 2 could not be any good at all and it still has a better shot at hitting 400 million domestically than Superman does.

Hopefully, both films will be wonderful and they can share the box office.

Either way, Pirates 2 will be huge and it'll make more than Superman Returns. But, I'm betting Superman will be the better film.

Come on, in all honesty, we're all seeing Pirates for one person, Johnny Depp. Who cares about the rest of the cast?

[crappymovie]

Pirates will likely run circles around X3's current box office numbers...the opening should be huge, the demographics covered are amazing, and if it is a good film, it will have amazing legs (A Shrek 2 performance maybe?) X3 always had a certain box office limitation in terms of demographics, and it could have done a lot higher numbers.....had it been more favourably received. But Pirates is not a fair comparison, it's in another league....but Superman Returns...

[crappymovie]

In all honesty, I feel a bit sorry for Superman Returns because it just doesn't have enough room to gather as much as it can before Pirates 2 hits.

I hope Superman Returns does well if it's a good movie...hopefully it'll play out like Batman Begins, plus it has the added bonus of not being preceded by Batman & Robin, and....people may be looking for a Singer movie now. :O

[J.Howlett]

Very true.

That two week period where both Superman and Pirates are in the theatre at the same time is going to be interesting.

The media will spin it that Superman is a disappointment because, let's be real, Pirates is going to be number one for the entire month of July. Superman will only have 10 days at number one.

[GL's Light]

Superman Returns is reportedly tracking very well, too. The early tracking was a little soft, but these new trailers have turned things around. SR also has the benefit of appealing to a broad demographic - it should pull the kiddie/family demographic much more strongly than the darker Batman Begins.

[Downhere]

SR has until POTC 2 comes out to make the most it can make and then it will sink because both films are targeting the same demographics. It is going to be interesting to see how hard SR will be hit when POTC 2 comes out.

[J.Howlett]

GL,

It will. But, it's no Pirates. Hell, I wasn't even a fan of the first Pirates film except for Depp's performance and even I was amazed at how much the first film made. Now, add three years of waiting for the sequel on top of those numbers and inflation and you get an idea of how big Pirates 2 will be.

We're talking Shrek 2, Episode I, and Episode IV numbers here.

Superman Returns? Episode III numbers....maybe.

The Last Stand, by the way, will rest at 230 million domestically. It's going to struggle to get there but it'll get there.

[crappymovie]

Superman Returns is reportedly tracking very well, too. The early tracking was a little soft, but these new trailers have turned things around. SR also has the benefit of appealing to a broad demographic - it should pull the kiddie/family demographic much more strongly than the darker Batman Begins.

And the nostalgic crowd as well. But probably not some X3 fans who might be a little bitter....kidding. If it's a faithful adaptation, which doesn't piss people off, it should do well.

[GL's Light]

Spider-Man 2 racked up $ 211 million in its first nine days, while War of the Worlds made $ 134 million. Hopefully SR can fall somewhere in the middle of that range - say, $ 150-160 million - so that it can make it into the mid-200's despite any Pirates induced drop.

[crappymovie]

SR has until POTC 2 comes out to make the most it can make and then it will sink because both films are targeting the same demographics. It is going to be interesting to see how hard SR will be hit when POTC 2 comes out.

If it's a quality film, it'll drop, no doubt, but not by that much. At least it hopefully won't have a Hulk-esque drop like X3 when it faced the titan: The Break Up. ha :up:

Pirates will take a huge audience from this film, but people will eventually come back. Unlike X3....But we'll wait and see, I could definitely be wrong. :up:

[Iceman]

The studios run tracking polls - very similar to political polls taken during campaigns - to gauge how many people are aware of a film, how many have decided to definitely see it, how many might see it, and how many aren't interested. These polls are used to adjust marketing campaigns to better hit key demographics, and as predictors of how a film is likely to perform.

Pirates 2 is gonna go through the roof, no question. In fact, it might just be the film to beat Spider-Man's opening weekend record. But it's really piling the pressure on if the media starts to suggest that it could do Titanic-level numbers. No film should be encumbered with that level of expectation.

Thks. :up:

And are these tracking polls usually pretty accurate?

I'd be very surprised if it did Titanic numbers.

[J.Howlett]

GL,

But see, mid-200's will be called a failure in this day and age of box office and production budgets, especially that film's budget.

If Returns came out at the beginning of this month and had the whole month of June to itself, then I'd see it make 300 plus at the box office.

[crappymovie]

GL,

But see, mid-200's will be called a failure in this day and age of box office and production budgets, especially that film's budget.

If Returns came out at the beginning of this month and had the whole month of June to itself, then I'd see it make 300 plus at the box office.

But then X3 would be a failure as well....outgrossing it's predecessor by $10-20 million? Double the budget? 67% drop in it's second week?

But in the same way, it had a HUGE opening weekend. And it'll have great international numbers. It just wasn't THAT huge of a commercial or critical success.

[GL's Light]

GL,

But see, mid-200's will be called a failure in this day and age of box office and production budgets, especially that film's budget.

If Returns came out at the beginning of this month and had the whole month of June to itself, then I'd see it make 300 plus at the box office.
The media has given so much attention to SR's cost overruns that it's going to be tough to satisfy them. $ 250 million is probably the level that WB will declare success, greenlight a sequel, and make sure that everyone knows the sequel will have far more stringent cost controls. A huge international take will, of course, also help greatly.

[GL's Light]

Thks. :up:

And are these tracking polls usually pretty accurate?
No, they can be way off. The tracking polls greatly underestimated The Break-Up's opening.

[J.Howlett]

GL,

Quite true. In all honesty, I don't think WB really cares as long as the film is good. Remember, before this film even got off the ground, WB spent about 150 million on just development alone.

At the end of the day, they will take a bit of a loss but I think they want this film to click and be precieved as a good film, first and foremost.

With the sequel, they'll have all their ducks in a row and the cost of the film won't be as bad.

[Iceman]

Come on, in all honesty, we're all seeing Pirates for one person, Johnny Depp. Who cares about the rest of the cast?
I like Keira Knightley as well.

Spider-Man 2 racked up $ 211 million in its first nine days, while War of the Worlds made $ 134 million. Hopefully SR can fall somewhere in the middle of that range - say, $ 150-160 million - so that it can make it into the mid-200's despite any Pirates induced drop.

That would be below X3's 9 day opening. Is that really enough?

[J.Howlett]

I like Keira too but again, it's all about Depp....

[Iceman]

I like Keira too but again, it's all about Depp....
:up:
Depp attracts a whole new demographic by himself.

I wonder how much Pirates would have made with someone else like Jim Carrey as Sparrow.

[GL's Light]

I like Keira Knightley as well.



That would be below X3's 9 day opening. Is that really enough?
Because X3 opened on a Friday it had five weekend days in its first nine days. SR will have only three weekend days, so it likely won't have quite the same upfront intensity. But July 4th releases tend to have good legs, even when faced with stiff competition from subsequent releases, so that kind of start should be enough for SR to rack up a good total. Of course, if the start is even bigger, all the better.

[Iceman]

Because X3 opened on a Friday it had five weekend days in its first nine days. SR will have only three weekend days, so it likely won't have quite the same upfront intensity. But July 4th releases tend to have good legs, even when faced with stiff competition from subsequent releases, so that kind of start should be enough for SR to rack up a good total. Of course, if the start is even bigger, all the better.

You're quite a box office connosseur GL :p :up:

[GL's Light]

You're quite a box office connosseur GL :p :up:
Thanks. :) :up:

[BMM]

Isn't Superman Returns being touted as techincally having a seven day opening as opposed to X3's five day opening? . . . it will be tallied starting Tues. (the 27th) and will run through the July 4th holiday weekend which essentially goes through to the next Tues.

[GL's Light]

Isn't Superman Returns being touted as techincally having a seven day opening as opposed to X3's five day opening? . . . it will be tallied starting Tues. (the 27th) and will run through the July 4th holiday weekend which essentially goes through to the next Tues.
X3 had a 4-day opening weekend: The 3-day, plus Memorial Day Monday.

You're right, SR will have a 7-day opening weekend that runs through to July 4th Tuesday, although the media will likely also tout the 5-day numbers.

[Iceman]

I'd prefer if all films opened on a Friday and there were no holiday weekends so that we could actually make meaningful comparisons. :(

[BMM]

I'd prefer if all films opened on a Friday and there were no holiday weekends so that we could actually make meaningful comparisons. :(

Yeah, it makes it difficult . . . although I understand why Warner moved Returns up. Haha, I would too if I dumped all that money into a film only to have POTC 2 open the following weekend.

[Iceman]

Yeah, it makes it difficult . . . although I understand why Warner moved Returns up. Haha, I would too if I dumped all that money into a film only to have POTC 2 open the following weekend.

I'd open it tomorrow if I was Warners :p

[antariksh]

SINCE when did X3 boxoffice tracker thread turn into SR vs. POTC 2 thread.

Those who want to to talk about SR and POTC 2 go to SR boards.

We are here to discuss X3 boxoffice NOT superman returns and POTC 2.

[RedIsNotBlue]

SINCE when did X3 boxoffice tracker thread turn into SR vs. POTC 2 thread.

Those who want to to talk about SR and POTC 2 go to SR boards.

We are here to discuss X3 boxoffice NOT superman returns and POTC 2.

Welcome to Superherohype. Here people make little pointless wars with movies.

[Downhere]

Well, I for one am glad to see X3's second tuesday rise. X2's second tuesday dropped from the previous day. Hopefully the legs of the film will even out from here on out.

[Carp Man]

It'll break 400 really fast and start zooming towards loftier levels. Not sure if it'll hit 5 but if it can hold up throughout the weekdays and pull off 16-20 million this weekend you never know. International is kicking ass. It doesn't matter if it's #1 or not against DaVinci it just has to outperform X2.

Don't let Milk hear you say that. He's still harping on the drop. :eek: It could make a billion and they would still be harping on the drop. LOL. I said 400 to 450 million. That would indeed be a suscess beyond all expectations.

[antariksh]

Well, I for one am glad to see X3's second tuesday rise. X2's second tuesday dropped from the previous day. Hopefully the legs of the film will even out from here on out.

Ya, i was surprised after seeing X3 rise. Although to be honest with you MOST of the movies had a rise on tuesday compared to monday.

Maybe due to "The Omen" i don't know.

But what still bugs me is that "The Break-up" is still doing really well. Hell it increased too!!!!!!!

I am hoping the legs for X3 remain solid enough so that it can end up with $240-250 million domestically and a worldwide tally between $450-500 million worldwide.

[Downhere]

Well, compared with X2, X3's second tuesday rose while X2's dropped. So I was happy about that. I'm hoping the legs even out from here on out so that it can reach the 240-250 million range domestically.

[Advanced Dark]

It'll be around 205 after Sunday domestic alone.

[Iceman]

SINCE when did X3 boxoffice tracker thread turn into SR vs. POTC 2 thread.

Those who want to to talk about SR and POTC 2 go to SR boards.

We are here to discuss X3 boxoffice NOT superman returns and POTC 2.

SR and POTC are two major factors in X3's final box office take so I would say that they are relevant.

[Advanced Dark]

Superman Returns and Pirates are minimal factors in X3's box office.

[RedIsNotBlue]

SR and POTC are two major factors in X3's final box office take so I would say that they are relevant.

Not really no.

[Advanced Dark]

X3 will be down to a million or less a day on weekdays when SR comes out. 2-3 weeks is all X3 needed.

[Downhere]

Yeah, X3's competition is not SR or POTC 2...it will have most of it's total gross by then.

[phillip phonix]

in all how much money has x3 earned world wide to date

[pt_photo_inc]

Yeah, X3's competition is not SR or POTC 2...it will have most of it's total gross by then.

HAHAHA>>>>> we will talk about this again after opening week of SR, and by the way this last week XMEN was beat by the BREAK UP and AN INCONVIENT TRUTH! it would appear everyone is X3 competition right now

[Carp Man]

in all how much money has x3 earned world wide to date

Your answer is here vvvvvvvvvv in my sig.

[liamoversion2]

Hey... don't know if anyone has worked this out yet


but I worked out the percentage of their grosses that X1 and X2 made from this equivalent day in their releases till the day they stopped making money... they were nearly the same... x2 around 28% and X1 around 30%

I'm guessing X3 will do a little less because it was so front loaded. I'm gonna say around 26% - 28% which gives it a final domestic gross of something like 226 - 230... this is very rough... and I have a feeling it won't make that much... it will be in the region of 215 - 228 though.

[Downhere]

I have a feeling X3 will end up at around 240 million. That's basically if it drops 50% every week from the previous week, which I think it will do. We will see. :)

[Pickle-El]

Get this about Pirates of the Caribbean (even though I saw the first one, I won't be seeing the second one since I didn't think that first one was that great but I guess not many agreed with me).

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-2-tracking-monster/


You know the last film to be 'tracking just like Titanic' very recently?

King Kong......

[Carp Man]

You know the last film to be 'tracking just like Titanic' very recently?

King Kong......

POTC 2 will be huge. As huge as Titanic ? What are they smoking. 1st one made $ 653.9 million worldwide. Will it make more then the 1st ? I think it has a chance. Johnny Depp is the hotest commity in Hollywood. Will dwarf SR. No doubt there. ( Can't help myself. Have to take a shot. ). But hey I will throw in my 50 cents when it comes to the cheep movie theater here in town. 50 cents all day Tuesday.

[antariksh]

POTC 2 will be huge. As huge as Titanic ? What are they smoking. 1st one made $ 653.9 million worldwide. Will it make more then the 1st ? I think it has a chance. Johnny Depp is the hotest commity in Hollywood. Will dwarf SR. No doubt there. ( Can't help myself. Have to take a shot. ). But hey I will throw in my 50 cents when it comes to the cheep movie theater here in town. 50 cents all day Tuesday.

sorry wrong spelling

should be commodity.

[Carp Man]

sorry wrong spelling

should be commodity.

Forget the spelling. I always said I wasn't the sharpest peanut in the turd.

[GL's Light]

Someone put up purported Wednesday estimates on HSX's forum:

1. The Omen - $ 4.55 million
2. The Break-Up - $ 3.34 million
3. X3 - $ 2.46 million

BOM will have the actuals up shortly. It'll be good news if this is confirmed - this would be a much better second Wednesday hold than X2 managed.

[Carp Man]

Ok. Wednesday's #'s are in. Updated #'s below. Looked on mojo, 34 theater drop to, 3,680 theaters. So they have lost 10 total from opening day.

[GL's Light]

BOM has the actuals:

1. The Omen - $ 4,583,064 (- 63.7%)
2. The Break-Up - $ 3,375,475 (- 15.4%)
3. X3 - $ 2,471,902 (- 18.3%)

X3's domestic cume stands at $ 183,778,985, and its worldwide cume at $ 323,608,408.

On its comparable day X2 dropped 28.69% for a $ 2.038 million take.

[crappymovie]

BOM has the actuals:

1. The Omen - $ 4,583,064 (- 63.7%)
2. The Break-Up - $ 3,375,475 (- 15.4%)
3. X3 - $ 2,471,902 (- 18.3%)

X3's domestic cume stands at $ 183,778,985, and its worldwide cume at $ 323,608,408.

On its comparable day X2 dropped 28.69% for a $ 2.038 million take.

How did the first X-Men do comparably? I'm still confused which film X3 will preform more like, X2 or X1....

[phantom47]

BOM has 2,471,902 -18%

[Carp Man]

How did the first X-Men do comparably? I'm still confused which film X3 will preform more like, X2 or X1....

X-Men did $ 296.2 worldwide. X-Men United did $ 407,557,613 worldwide.

[antariksh]

X-Men did $ 296.2 worldwide. X-Men United did $ 407,557,613 worldwide.

he meant how much did X1 do on its second wednesday.

[GL's Light]

How did the first X-Men do comparably? I'm still confused which film X3 will preform more like, X2 or X1....
X1 had better legs than X2. If X3 could match X2's legs it would end up at $ 258 million domestic. It's probably not going to manage that, but hopefully it'll come close. If X3 can match or slightly better X2's numbers for the rest of its run, it'll end up with $ 240-250 million.

[Carp Man]

he meant how much did X1 do on its second wednesday.

I'm not a premium member on mojo, so only have the totals not the daily breakdown. I do know opening weekend it did $ 54.4 million. X-Men United did $ 85.5 million.

[phantom47]

X3 2,471,902 -18.3%
X2 2.038,254 -21.2%
X1 2,523,729 -.2%

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=vs-xmen.htm

In this case X3 is doing better than X2 and looks like it showing a little less that X1

looking at the site X1 it did alot better in terms of legs than X2

[crappymovie]

X1 had better legs than X2. If X3 could match X2's legs it would end up at $ 258 million domestic. It's probably not going to manage that, but hopefully it'll come close. If X3 can match or slightly better X2's numbers for the rest of its run, it'll end up with $ 240-250 million.

I think it's possible, X2 had to deal with Matrix Reloaded remember. Hopefully Cars and the Omen won't kill this weekend though....a good weekend can make a huge difference for the final total...

[Carp Man]

I think it's possible, X2 had to deal with Matrix Reloaded remember. Hopefully Cars and the Omen won't kill this weekend though....a good weekend can make a huge difference for the final total...

Lets all remember here it is all realevent. X-Men : Last Stand had a record breaking opening weekend. So it's drops will be magnified because of that. And the fact of the matter is it broke the $ 300 million dollar threshold after only 11 days.

[crappymovie]

X3 2,471,902 -18.3%
X2 2.038,254 -21.2%
X1 2,523,729 -.2%

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=vs-xmen.htm

In this case X3 is doing better than X2 and looks like it showing a little less that X1

Thanks :up:

Looks like if X3 has a good weekend, it won't have to match the totals of X2 on weekdays to stay ahead (relatively.) What are the predictions for this weekend? Box Office Guru has it at a possible 17 million, and X2 fell to 17 million (-57%) during it's third weekend...should the prediction be higher?

[phantom47]

looking at the weekday numbers X3 should bring in 17-21 mil this weekend, im guessing closer to 17 with Cars and Omen coming out

[GL's Light]

I think it's possible, X2 had to deal with Matrix Reloaded remember. Hopefully Cars and the Omen won't kill this weekend though....a good weekend can make a huge difference for the final total...
A 2.5 multiplier (like X2's) could still happen. X3 will need very good third and fourth weekend holds to have a shot at it.

[lordofthenerds]

X3 2,471,902 -18.3%
X2 2.038,254 -21.2%
X1 2,523,729 -.2%

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=vs-xmen.htm

In this case X3 is doing better than X2 and looks like it showing a little less that X1

looking at the site X1 it did alot better in terms of legs than X2
Yeah, but X1 made a lot less than X2 overall. I think that X3 will make more than X2 but its numbers will continue to drop quickly.

[phantom47]

How did the first X-Men do comparably? I'm still confused which film X3 will preform more like, X2 or X1....It will fall somewhere between, but looking at the numbers, it will perform closer to X1s numbers, which is good because X1 get better legs than X2

[phantom47]

PS do i get an avatar at 200 or 300

[Aiden]

300

[Carp Man]

PS do i get an avatar at 200 or 300

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137235

Here is the list of what you get and when. :)

[Iceman]

BOM has the actuals:

1. The Omen - $ 4,583,064 (- 63.7%)
2. The Break-Up - $ 3,375,475 (- 15.4%)
3. X3 - $ 2,471,902 (- 18.3%)

X3's domestic cume stands at $ 183,778,985, and its worldwide cume at $ 323,608,408.

On its comparable day X2 dropped 28.69% for a $ 2.038 million take.

Nice hold for the Wednesday.

(1st page figures updated)

[Forever is over]

I find it strange that people seem to be happy that this film keeps performing better than X2. I dont think the final domestic or international totals will be that much more than X2 and that film cost 100 million less than X3. It's not too sweet a victory if you ask me.

[Pickle-El]

I find it strange that people seem to be happy that this film keeps performing better than X2. I dont think the final domestic or international totals will be that much more than X2 and that film cost 100 million less than X3. It's not too sweet a victory if you ask me.


Very true. X2 was more successful from that point of view. Last year, people were trying to use this argument about budget vs profit with FF and BB even though BB had better numbers...yet, this year no one is bringing that up or the 'alleged' budget of around 175 or so.\. X3 might have puffier numbers, but it isn't as good a bottom line as X2..

[Carp Man]

Very true. X2 was more successful from that point of view. Last year, people were trying to use this argument about budget vs profit with FF and BB even though BB had better numbers...yet, this year no one is bringing that up or the 'alleged' budget of around 175 or so.\. X3 might have puffier numbers, but it isn't as good a bottom line as X2..

Yea Pickle. And I was the one who bought it up. Remember ? FF did make more then BB profit wise once you took production budget out. FF made less, but BB cost 50 million more to make. So from a profit point of view FF did better then BB. Fact. Now once again. X-Men : Last stand cost $ 210 million, SR cost $ 260 million. So SR has to make $ 50 million more the X-Men : Last stand to be more profitable. And is not happening. DC didn't learn from last time , that you must keep that donut budget down.:p And we'll have the #'s to compare.

[crappymovie]

Yea Pickle. And I was the one who bought it up. Remember ? FF did make more then BB profit wise once you took production budget out. FF made less, but BB cost 50 million more to make. So from a profit point of view FF did better then BB. Fact. Now once again. X-Men : Last stand cost $ 210 million, SR cost $ 260 million. So SR has to make $ 50 million more the X-Men : Last stand to be more profitable. And is not happening.

Regardless, we are talking about X3 right now. Specifically X3 and X2. X2 will be the more profitable film, by a most likely, huge margin. Even X1 made a domestic profit of around 82 million....will X3 make 292 to make this kind of profit? Don't think so, the way it's going so far.

And you should probably wait until Superman Return's second weekend at least to make a semi-realistic prediction, right? Who knows, maybe the film will make $200 million in a week...anything's possible these days. I never expected X3 to struggle to get to $250 million....

[Carp Man]

Regardless, we are talking about X3 right now. Specifically X3 and X2. X2 will be the more profitable film, by a most likely, huge margin. Even X1 made a domestic profit of around 82 million....will X3 make 292 to make this kind of profit? Don't think so, the way it's going so far.

And you should probably wait until Superman Return's second weekend at least to make a semi-realistic prediction, right? Who knows, maybe the film will make $200 million in a week...anything's possible these days. I never expected X3 to struggle to get to $250 million....

You we're not around last year. However, I too was disapointed by it's performance after the 1st weekend. it made $ 141 million the 1st week, this week it will strugle to make $ 50 million ( It's at 44 million with today to go ). however it will only lose 24 theaters this upcomming week, week 3, starting Friday, which is encouraging. It hasn't faired well this week, but the people who know have confidence in it. So we shall see. FF had a 160 theater drop going into it's 3rd week. And I always make early predictions.

[Fanticon]

These numbers look very good...I think it will last all the way through fourth of July and by that time hopefully will have reached 240-250million domestically...and then it will be over with and POTC2 and Superman Returns can have their fun...or war.

[oneteen]

What was X3's budget again? $450 million, right?

[Fanticon]

What was X3's budget again? $450 million, right?

no...that is insane...most big budget movies these days cost 100-200million without marketing...so X3's budget with marketing is speculated to be about 210 or 250m. But adding the marketing cost to its budget seems to be what people like to talk about when noticing that even after a movie breaks even with its original production budget...its still has a ways to go before reaching what it cost in marketing...movies like this tend nowadays to make most of the money in profits from DVD sales...which is how it was back in the late 80's and early 90's with VHS. And tracking the world wide gross of a movie has become more of thing now too...since domestically...these movies numbers are either dissapointing or just don't do anything except break previous opening weekend records.

[oneteen]

They'll make their profit.

[TheVileOne]

What was X3's budget again? $450 million, right?
Their production budget was $210 million. With marketing and distribution it cost even more.

The movie cost so much so it could get released in less than a year after it started filming.

[phantom47]

X3s budget

210 mil

165 for production
45 for marketing

[danoyse]

I've noticed they've starting airing the 2nd round of commercials ("Spectacular!" "Amazing!" "Astonishing!"), so I'm guess that's the push for the next few weekends.

[oneteen]

I've seen those too!

[antariksh]

Their production budget was $210 million. With marketing and distribution it cost even more.

The movie cost so much so it could get released in less than a year after it started filming.

U are still one of those who think that X3 production budget is 210 million right. Well go to hell.

And btw superman returns production budget is 250 million already. Add in marketing and distribution and that movie will FLOP.

mark my words when i say something bad to something that WILL HAPPEN.

I have officially JINXED Superman Returns.

[phantom47]

were there any commercials during the MTV Movie Awards?

[oneteen]

It's airing in a few minutes. The awards show I mean.

[RagingTempest]

What was X3's budget again? $450 million, right?

210 million!!!:o :up: Which X3 has already surpassed!!!

[Pickle-El]

were there any commercials during the MTV Movie Awards?

There was a new SR clip...

[Carp Man]

What was X3's budget again? $450 million, right?

210 million.

[Carp Man]

210 million!!!:o :up: Which X3 has already surpassed!!!

On it's way to lofter hights. :)

[TNC9852002]

For SR, there was an extended clip of the airplane sequence..It was during the pre-show..

You can watch it on http://movieawards.mtv.com

-TNC

[Excel]

xmen3 is the new matrix reloaded. its a huge hit, and wll finish where everyone thought it would before it opened.

its just a dissapointment due to its opening was way bigger then expected.

[Iceman]

xmen3 is the new matrix reloaded. its a huge hit, and wll finish where everyone thought it would before it opened.

its just a dissapointment due to its opening was way bigger then expected.
Strange but true. :(

[Pickle-El]

For SR, there was an extended clip of the airplane sequence..It was during the pre-show..

You can watch it on http://movieawards.mtv.com

-TNC


I guess for anyone that's interested...

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9126613&postcount=85

[Mike059jig]

Just WOW..That clip is ridiculous and the Special effects is mindblowing and nice music and just can't wait....I'm glad they push it back to June 28

[crappymovie]

Just WOW..That clip is ridiculous and the Special effects is mindblowing and nice music and just can't wait....I'm glad they push it back to June 28

I have to say, I really didn't like the first trailer for Returns, but it looks like a really good film. The effects look amazing, and I like the cinematography: Singer always seems to give his films a slightly darker hue, which I like.

The film is also 2hrs, and 33 min....a little long? Maybe it'll be epic though.

Anyways, back to box office.

[antariksh]

Fox International will be seeking to translate The Omen's excellent early domestic form into a monster overseas result this weekend as the satanic horror remake launches in - wait for it - 66 territories.

John Moore's demonic tale took an estimated $12.6m from North American theatres on Tuesday (06/06/06) and opened around the world on the same day. The studio is keeping tight-lipped about overseas results until Sunday, when it hope to release a devilishly large worldwide figure.

All takes from the Tuesday opening are being calculated as previews in the days leading up to each territory's traditional opening day. For example this means that France, where pictures usually open on Wednesday, will report one day of previews, while the UK will report three days of previews before the official launch on Friday.

The Omen opens on 358 prints in the UK, 378 in Italy, 320 in Germany, 287 in France, and a sizeable 500 in Mexico. It goes out on 280 in Spain, 200 on Japan, 155 in Australia, 151 in Brazil, and 120 in South Korea.

Fox International still has plenty of business to do with X-Men: The Last Stand, which has reached $146.1m. Its spring blockbuster Ice Age 2 stands at $439.3m.

The Da Vinci Code became Sony's biggest international release of all time this week with a current total of $427.7m, with plenty left in that tank.

Sony Pictures Releasing International also opens RV in the UK on 250 screens and Mexico on 150, both on Friday. The comedy launched in minor markets last weekend and has grossed $1.2m to date.

Buena Vista International (BVI) opens Pixar/Disney's Cars in six markets this weekend, the biggest of which are Australia on Jun 8 and Taiwan on Jun 10. The distributor is staggering the roll-out and aims to have the animated story in 25 markets by the end of June, with a further 15 releases scheduled in July. Germany will be the last major market to open in September.

Scary Movie 4 opens in several smaller markets for BVI this weekend, hoping to swell its current total of $65m. With all French-speaking territories and Spain yet to open, the picture is on target to cross $90m and has an outside chance of reaching $100m. The Wild has amassed $45m to date and is yet to open in Australia, Japan, and Scandinavia.

UIP opens the comedy American Dreamz, currently on a $5.5m international cumulative total, in France on Jun 7 and Japan on Jun 10. Universal's heist thriller Inside Man has reached $88.2m and will try to crack Japan on Jun 10. The number one domestic picture The Break-Up opens in Australia on Jun 6.


SOURCE:screendaily.com


As of thursday X3 has done $146.1 million overseas market.

[Advanced Dark]

^ So 329.9 Million Wordwide. Probably get another 17 million domstic this weekend, and another 30-35 this weekend international. Then the following weekend X3 opens in Japan which should total 20-22 million when it's all said and done there. 400 million will be here very fast.

[antariksh]

^ So 329.9 Million Wordwide. Probably get another 17 million domstic this weekend, and another 30-35 this weekend international. Then the following weekend X3 opens in Japan which should total 20-22 million when it's all said and done there. 400 million will be here very fast.

LOL i don't think X3 has enough MOJO left in it to do another 30-35 million this weekend overseas.

Hell it did 33.5 million last weekend overseas.

and btw World cup will most probably destroy X3 in europe.

[Advanced Dark]

I thought it made 42.5 million overseas last weekend. If that's the case take 35% off that total. Overseas totals usually don't crash too much.

[antariksh]

I thought it made 42.5 million overseas last weekend. If that's the case take 35% off that total. Overseas totals usually don't crash too much.

where did u get that 42.5 million from???

btw it made total of 135.5 million overseas last weekend + monday overseas boxoffice=139.9 million.

the updated numbers u see for X3 international boxoffice every tuesday always include monday's international figure.

[phantom47]

LOL i don't think X3 has enough MOJO left in it to do another 30-35 million this weekend overseas.

Hell it did 33.5 million last weekend overseas.

and btw World cup will most probably destroy X3 in europe.X3 is nowhere done with gaining numbers it has another meaningfull 3 weeks before we really start seeing it fade away

[oneteen]

Superman Returns, I think will obliterate X3.

[MJB]

How in the hell did X3 drop so badly. I don't know, I thought X3 would take in around 220-250 domestically before it came out, but with that huge opening weekend i really thought x3 would make it to 300 million, what went wrong? I've seen it 3 times and the people in the theaters seemed to enjoy it. Damn I knew it was a long shot, but i really wanted X3 to beat Superman. I guess X3 will be lucky to make it to 220 million domestically.

[LostSon88]

Who says that Superman will beat X3? I mean POTC2 is opening the following week!

I mean i'm lookin' forward to Superman as much as the next fanboy, but I worry that it will underperform at the box office...POTC2 will take a majority of their audience.

I mean considering their budget...SR will NEED at least 200 mil just to break EVEN!

[oneteen]

I think many more people are anticipating Superman rather than Pirates.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think many more people are anticipating Superman rather than Pirates.

Alot of people are anticipating both. Its hard to actually know the actual numbers. Believe it or not there are people out there who are looking forward to POTC2 more than SR.

[tkenji69]

I think many more people are anticipating Superman rather than Pirates.

UHH .....you would be wrong.

[spideyboy_1111]

Alot of people are anticipating both. Its hard to actually know the actual numbers. Believe it or not there are people out there who are looking forward to POTC2 more than SR.
ya more people i know are anticipating pirates.. people think the effects un supes, look amazing.. but most peeps i know still really hate routh.. esp how his costume looks like a muscle suit

[RedIsNotBlue]

ya more people i know are anticipating pirates.. people think the effects un supes, look amazing.. but most peeps i know still really hate routh.. esp how his costume looks like a muscle suit

I wish all the success for Supes and I hope its a great film but I think alot of people on here are blinded by their love for the material and underestimate other films. Like for example people laughing at the Break-Up taking over the number one spot from X3 at the box office. For me that wasn't a surprise at all. I actually expected it.

[Celestial]

The World Cup starts this weekend, so expect all the international figures to take a big hit.

[antariksh]

The World Cup starts this weekend, so expect all the international figures to take a big hit.

That is what i am saying for the last two weeks that X3 won't hit $200 million due to worldcup even after releasing in japan, south korea, china and taiwan.

[Milkman95]

We all know Superman will open big - the question will be it's second and third weekends against Pirates. IMAX and IMAX in 3-D should cushion the numbers a bit, which is a plus, so we'll see what happens.

I knew X3 would drop, but I didn't expect a record-setting drop and finishing behind a sub-par romantic comedy. The key for SR is the percentage drops in it's second and third weekends. X3 will top out just over X2, which isn't good considering X3's budget was double X2's.......

[RedIsNotBlue]

You honestly didn't think that the Break-up wouldn't take over the second week?

[antariksh]

We all know Superman will open big - the question will be it's second and third weekends against Pirates. IMAX and IMAX in 3-D should cushion the numbers a bit, which is a plus, so we'll see what happens.

I knew X3 would drop, but I didn't expect a record-setting drop and finishing behind a sub-par romantic comedy. The key for SR is the percentage drops in it's second and third weekends. X3 will top out just over X2, which isn't good considering X3's budget was double X2's.......

WHY THE **** DO U HAVE TO SAY X3 BUDGET IS 2 times MORE THAN X2.

WHAT THE **** IS YOUR PROBLEM????

THE BUDGET FOR X3 IS NO MORE THAN GODDAMN $165 MILLION + MARKETING+DISTRIBUTION.

NOT $210 MILLION PRODUCTION BUDGET.

DO U REALLY THINK THAT FOX WILL SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON X3???

THEY ARE CHEAP ASS STUDIO. THEY WILL NEVER SPEND THAT MUCH ON A PRODUCTION ONLY.

THE $210 MILLION FIGURE U SEE IS INCLUDING MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION.

[Milkman95]

You honestly didn't think that the Break-up wouldn't take over the second week?

No, I thought it would be close with X3 taking the top spot by a slim margin.

If X3 had a reasonable drop between 55% - 60% that would have happened. Instead, the film didn't get favorable WOM and the record-setting drop happened. Oh well, it's still successful, just not as successful as the first two films when comparing from a profit margin standpoint.

[crappymovie]

WHY THE **** DO U HAVE TO SAY X3 BUDGET IS 2 times MORE THAN X2.

WHAT THE **** IS YOUR PROBLEM????

THE BUDGET FOR X3 IS NO MORE THAN GODDAMN $165 MILLION + MARKETING+DISTRIBUTION.

NOT $210 MILLION PRODUCTION BUDGET.

DO U REALLY THINK THAT FOX WILL SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON X3???

THEY ARE CHEAP ASS STUDIO. THEY WILL NEVER SPEND THAT MUCH ON A PRODUCTION ONLY.

THE $210 MILLION FIGURE U SEE IS INCLUDING MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION.

Calm down. Box Office Mojo has the production budget at $210 million, which probably includes marketing. So, that is likely the budget (since it is also quoted in the media.) It's definitely at least $200 million.

[crappymovie]

Oh well, it's still successful, just not as successful as the first two films when comparing from a profit margin standpoint.

Plus the opening weekend is more a coup for X2, not really X3 (because it was based on anticipation mostly built on X2) except for the really good trailers :up:

It's succesful (Profitable!)...just not as successful...

[antariksh]

Calm down. Box Office Mojo has the production budget at $210 million, which probably includes marketing. So, that is likely the budget (since it is also quoted in the media.) It's definitely at least $200 million.

YA but that mikman guy thinks the production budget for X3 is alone 210 million.

Btw X2 had a bigger and better marketing and distribution (MORE THEATRES) campaign than X3 therefore the cost for marketing and distributing for X2 is bigger than X3.
The only thing big about X3 is production budget which is between $150-165 million. NOTHING LESS AND NOTHING MORE.

[Carp Man]

We all know Superman will open big - the question will be it's second and third weekends against Pirates. IMAX and IMAX in 3-D should cushion the numbers a bit, which is a plus, so we'll see what happens.

I knew X3 would drop, but I didn't expect a record-setting drop and finishing behind a sub-par romantic comedy. The key for SR is the percentage drops in it's second and third weekends. X3 will top out just over X2, which isn't good considering X3's budget was double X2's.......

Once again Milk the cup is half empty with you. Spend 210 million, make over 400 million. Gees what the hell do you want ? It's a Marvel product, that's the bottom line with you. I make a 210 million investment, and I get double my money back, I'm jumping up and down like Cruz on Oprah's couch. So get off the drop. It's suscufull, opening weekend broke all kinds of records. $ 144 million 1st 7 days, domesticly, over 300 million worldwide first 11 days, not many films can say that, not even the elustrious BB. X-Men is huge, get over it.

[Carp Man]

No, I thought it would be close with X3 taking the top spot by a slim margin.

If X3 had a reasonable drop between 55% - 60% that would have happened. Instead, the film didn't get favorable WOM and the record-setting drop happened. Oh well, it's still successful, just not as successful as the first two films when comparing from a profit margin standpoint.

Oh, now we are talking profit margins ? Hmmmmmmmmm. Intresting from a person, who jumped all over my profit comparison from last year.

[Milkman95]

WHY THE **** DO U HAVE TO SAY X3 BUDGET IS 2 times MORE THAN X2.

WHAT THE **** IS YOUR PROBLEM????

THE BUDGET FOR X3 IS NO MORE THAN GODDAMN $165 MILLION + MARKETING+DISTRIBUTION.

NOT $210 MILLION PRODUCTION BUDGET.

DO U REALLY THINK THAT FOX WILL SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY ON X3???

THEY ARE CHEAP ASS STUDIO. THEY WILL NEVER SPEND THAT MUCH ON A PRODUCTION ONLY.

THE $210 MILLION FIGURE U SEE IS INCLUDING MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION.

Settle down little one. Okay, so the budget is $165m, that's still almost double X2's budget of around $80m. I guess X2's production budget of $110m that's listed is also with marketing.

[crappymovie]

YA but that mikman guy thinks the production budget for X3 is alone 210 million.

Btw X2 had a bigger and better marketing and distribution (MORE THEATRES) campaign than X3 therefore the cost for marketing and distributing for X2 is bigger than X3.
The only thing big about X3 is production budget which is between $150-165 million. NOTHING LESS AND NOTHING MORE.

Well we're not assuming random costs. The budget for X3 is $210 million. X2 was $110 million. Now you can make random deductions for whatever you'd like but we have the numbers: X3's production budget is 210, vs X2's of 110. And as for the 35 more theatres, maybe X2 really cost $210 million because of those extra 35 theatres?

[Milkman95]

Oh, now we are talking profit margins ? Hmmmmmmmmm. Intresting from a person, who jumped all over my profit comparison from last year.

That's because your numbers were never accurate - these are. FF's budget was really never stabilized after the re-shoots and BB made more of a profit anyway.

Plus, what's it to you? I'm comparing two MARVEL films biased one.

[crappymovie]

That's because your numbers were never accurate - these are. FF's budget was really never stabilized after the re-shoots and BB made more of a profit anyway.

Plus, what's it to you? I'm comparing two MARVEL films biased one.

I think FF made more profit than Batman Begins...but Bb definitely had an uphill battle instead of the slope FF was on. I say, wait until FF2 comes out and BB2 comes out, and than compare...the tables would have likely switched.

[Milkman95]

Once again Milk the cup is half empty with you. Spend 210 million, make over 400 million. Gees what the hell do you want ? It's a Marvel product, that's the bottom line with you. I make a 210 million investment, and I get double my money back, I'm jumping up and down like Cruz on Oprah's couch. So get off the drop. It's suscufull, opening weekend broke all kinds of records. $ 144 million 1st 7 days, domesticly, over 300 million worldwide first 11 days, not many films can say that, not even the elustrious BB. X-Men is huge, get over it.

I agree - I like Marvel, I own all the films and have seen every single film opening weekend, which also includes the failures Elektra and The Punisher, so don't talk like I have some vendetta like you have against DC, because I don't. I bet you still haven't seen BB - correct?

Let's not forget the other record X3 set - the largest post-Memorial Day weekend drop in the history of cinema...:)

[Carp Man]

That's because your numbers were never accurate - these are. FF's budget was really never stabilized after the re-shoots and BB made more of a profit anyway.

Plus, what's it to you? I'm comparing two MARVEL films biased one.

My #'s we're very accurate. We could only deal with posted #'s. Want me to drag them out again ? 22 days, then we'll see who the public likes more.

[Milkman95]

I think FF made more profit than Batman Begins...but Bb definitely had an uphill battle instead of the slope FF was on. I say, wait until FF2 comes out and BB2 comes out, and than compare...the tables would have likely switched.

The profit thing is debatable on those two in my opinion. If you include DVD, then BB made more easily since FF's DVD sales weren't as good.

I also agree about the sequels - that will be a fair comparison. FF2 has The Transformers to deal with and we don't know what type of competition the BB sequel will have as of yet in 2008.

[Milkman95]

My #'s we're very accurate. We could only deal with posted #'s. Want me to drag them out again ? 22 days, then we'll see who the public likes more.

Just like last year - we knew who the public liked more. 22 days isn't long enough, we'll have to wait until the fall to see the final numbers. Opening weekend is just the first lap, not the whole race.

[antariksh]

Settle down little one. Okay, so the budget is $165m, that's still almost double X2's budget of around $80m. I guess X2's production budget of $110m that's listed is also with marketing.

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

go to the-numbers.com they have the most accurate production budget for any movies.

So u mean that X1 costed what 20 million to make???

listen i will tell u X1-$75 million
X2-$110-125 million
X3-$150-165 million

[antariksh]

Well we're not assuming random costs. The budget for X3 is $210 million. X2 was $110 million. Now you can make random deductions for whatever you'd like but we have the numbers: X3's production budget is 210, vs X2's of 110. And as for the 35 more theatres, maybe X2 really cost $210 million because of those extra 35 theatres?

go to numbers.com they have it as $150 BUT i am saying $165 as it said in the yahoo article. BOM nowadays has been very unaccurate with budgets and stuff. Other sites are doing a better job than they are.

OK buddy so u should be happy that FOX spent that much money on X3.

But all u have been bashing about it.

[Carp Man]

I agree - I like Marvel, I own all the films and have seen every single film opening weekend, which also includes the failures Elektra and The Punisher, so don't talk like I have some vendetta like you have against DC, because I don't. I bet you still haven't seen BB - correct?

Let's not forget the other record X3 set - the largest post-Memorial Day weekend drop in the history of cinema...:)

Milk, why don't you get your head out of your duffle bag, and get on the winning team ?

[antariksh]

The profit thing is debatable on those two in my opinion. If you include DVD, then BB made more easily since FF's DVD sales weren't as good.

I also agree about the sequels - that will be a fair comparison. FF2 has The Transformers to deal with and we don't know what type of competition the BB sequel will have as of yet in 2008.

are u kidding me F4 (released on december 6th) did $94 million by january 1st 2006 and now it might have already done $100 million in dvd sales + rentals ($40 million). It did very well when compared to its domestic boxoffice. TOTAL= $140 just 14 million less.

While BB (released on October 18th) did $126 till january 1st 2006 and now it might have done $130 million in dvd sales + rental ($60 million). TOTAL=$190 million just 14 million less.

SO BOTH DID VERY WELL WHEN COMAPRED TO THEIR DOMESTIC BOXOFFICE.
BOTH DID $14 million less than their domestic boxoffice.

[GL's Light]

All of the budget figures you see are media estimates. The studio doesn't put out the real number. Most media outlets have X3's budget estimated at anywhere from $ 165 million to $ 210 million. Batman Begin's budget estimates ranged from $ 135 million to $ 150 million. We can only get a general sense of the budget to gross ratio, we can't exactly define it, especially since no one media outlet is really any more reliable with these numbers than any other - they're all just making educated guesses.

Also the various revenue streams - like DVD, TV and merchandising - are huge, and aren't reported on with the specificity of theatrical box office. Outside observers can't make anything more than very general conclusions about a film's profitability. It's certainly nowhere near as simple as dividing the worldwide gross by the most widely reported budget figure.

[Milkman95]

Milk, why don't you get your head out of your duffle bag, and get on the winning team ?

I am. I'm on both. My favorite character is Batman, as you know though. My second is probably Wolverine. Can't wait for that film, as long as Ratner isn't directing - I want a serious, gritty film along the lines of BB.

By the way, winning team? Marvel doesn't have the best percentage of good films to bad films as of late, so don't toot your horn too much my friend.

Oh yeah, you didn't answer my question biased one.

[Carp Man]

And bottom line is this week, today starts X-Mens 3rd week, and they have only dropped 10 theaters this week. They started at 3,690 1st week, 3,714 2nd week, 3,680 this week. So 3rd week, and 10 theaters loss = the people who know, have confidence in the movie.

[Milkman95]

All of the budget figures you see are media estimates. The studio doesn't put out the real number. Most media outlets have X3's budget estimated at anywhere from $ 165 million to $ 210 million. Batman Begin's budget estimates ranged from $ 135 million to $ 150 million. We can only get a general sense of the budget to gross ratio, we can't exactly define it, especially since no one media outlet is really any more reliable with these numbers than any other - they're all just making educated guesses.

Also the various revenue streams - like DVD, TV and merchandising - are huge, and aren't reported on with the specificity of theatrical box office. Outside observers can't make anything more than very general conclusions about a film's profitability. It's certainly nowhere near as simple as dividing the worldwide gross by the most widely reported budget figure.

Very nice, thanks.

[Milkman95]

And bottom line is this week, today starts X-Mens 3rd week, and they have only dropped 10 theaters this week. They started at 3,690 1st week, 3,714 2nd week, 3,680 this week. So 3rd week, and 10 theaters loss = the people who know, have confidence in the movie.

Well, when X3 set it's record last weekend for largest drop, it actually INCREASED in theatres, as you've said, so it looks as though theatre count doesn't mean much.

[crappymovie]

Well, when X3 set it's record last weekend for largest drop, it actually INCREASED in theatres, as you've said, so it looks as though theatre count doesn't mean much.

Agreed, let's just wait until this weekend's numbers come out. Predictions are ranging from 12-17 million....and 12 million was X1's weekend number, 17 was X2's. Here's Box Office Prophet's prediction (i posted Guru's awhile back.):

It took that top spot from X-Men: The Last Stand, which fell a stunning 66% from its opening weekend. Part of this is due to holiday inflation, but it's an extremely troubling figure any way you slice it. Easily judged the worst of the series, it has to deal with the fickle-by-nature comic book crowd and should fall like a stone, earning about $12 million this weekend.

[Carp Man]

I am. I'm on both. My favorite character is Batman, as you know though. My second is probably Wolverine. Can't wait for that film, as long as Ratner isn't directing - I want a serious, gritty film along the lines of BB.

By the way, winning team? Marvel doesn't have the best percentage of good films to bad films as of late, so don't toot your horn too much my friend.

Oh yeah, you didn't answer my question biased one.

Oh. About seeing BB ? Nope, and don't plan to, unless it comes out on regular tv. Can't support the other side when it is in direct competition with the winning side. And remember Milk, I have nothing against Batman, or Superman. I have enjoyed both. It's the whole DC fanboy mentality. But as I said, I will put down my 50 cents when SR comes to the cheep movie house. 50 cents all day Tuesdays.

[crappymovie]

Oh. About seeing BB ? Nope, and don't plan to, unless it comes out on regular tv. Can't support the other side when it is in direct competition with the winning side. And remember Milk, I have nothing against Batman, or Superman. I have enjoyed both. It's the whole DC fanboy mentality. But as I said, I will put down my 50 cents when SR comes to the cheep movie house.

...

Well you don't know what you're missing out. Batman Begins makes Fantastic Four and X3 look like kiddie cartoons. But I respect your loyalty!

[Carp Man]

...

Well you don't know what you're missing out. Batman Begins makes Fantastic Four and X3 look like kiddie cartoons. But I respect your loyalty!

TY. And I respect yours or any other DC fan. We just disagree. And that's cool. When it comes down to DC, vs Marvel, I'm Marvel all the way. And when it comes down to FF vs any DC charactor, I'm FF in the extreme.

[Advanced Dark]

Everyone complains when comics don't translate word for word from the source material from the 60's which were all "kiddie cartoons". Read the dialogue it's corny as hell. All the heroes speak out loud what they're going to do next. It's so corny...but it was fun then. Now audiences are more complicated and the kids who grew up liking these characters wouldn't relate anymore without them being updated, and the rest of the world wouldn't buy a ticket without the origins changing to suit today's world, and the dialogue being a bit more intelligent than...."ugghhhhh trapped...in a sea of moss...must get out...maybe if I summon the jellyfish to use their electric impulses...ugghhhhhhhh....great Zeus!"

[Amm-arD]

could anyone jus update on how much X3 has grossed so far??

[Carp Man]

Everyone complains when comics don't translate word for word from the source material from the 60's which were all "kiddie cartoons". Read the dialogue it's corny as hell. All the heroes speak out loud what they're going to do next. It's so corny...but it was fun then. Now audiences are more complicated and the kids who grew up liking these characters wouldn't relate anymore without them being updated, and the rest of the world wouldn't buy a ticket without the origins changing to suit today's world, and the dialogue being a bit more intelligent than...."ugghhhhh trapped...in a sea of moss...must get out...maybe if I summon the jellyfish to use their electric impulses...ugghhhhhhhh....great Zeus!"

I agree with you 200 %. It was corny and campy. It was suppose to be corny and campy. When FF came along it brought in a new type of comic charactors. Not dark and gloomy like Batman, or Superman. They we're ment to be fun, popcorn type comics. The dialog was campy, and cheesy, and made not much scense at times. When Batman came out on tv, nothing was more campy or cheesy. But hey, we enjoyed it. I mean come on, it's clobbering time ? Spiderman with his sarcasim, what it was all about then. Cheesy and campy rulled in the 60's. It was the War, Woodstock, hippies, and doing your own thing man. Students we're rioting on campusus. The 60's was the rebelion decade. We all were rebelling against the norm. And the comics represented the attitude of the times. The comics of the 60's were rebelling against the norm of comics of the 30's, 40's and 50's.

[Carp Man]

could anyone jus update on how much X3 has grossed so far??

Read my sig vvvvv

[Pickle-El]

are u kidding me F4 (released on december 6th) did $94 million by january 1st 2006 and now it might have already done $100 million in dvd sales + rentals ($40 million). It did very well when compared to its domestic boxoffice. TOTAL= $140 just 14 million less.

While BB (released on October 18th) did $126 till january 1st 2006 and now it might have done $130 million in dvd sales + rental ($60 million). TOTAL=$190 million just 14 million less.

SO BOTH DID VERY WELL WHEN COMAPRED TO THEIR DOMESTIC BOXOFFICE.
BOTH DID $14 million less than their domestic boxoffice.

BB did 190 Million in DVD sales/rentals by the end of last year....It's already passed its domestic take. I'd definately call that successful. I have no idea how FF did.

[danoyse]

All of the budget figures you see are media estimates. The studio doesn't put out the real number. Most media outlets have X3's budget estimated at anywhere from $ 165 million to $ 210 million. Batman Begin's budget estimates ranged from $ 135 million to $ 150 million. We can only get a general sense of the budget to gross ratio, we can't exactly define it, especially since no one media outlet is really any more reliable with these numbers than any other - they're all just making educated guesses.

Also the various revenue streams - like DVD, TV and merchandising - are huge, and aren't reported on with the specificity of theatrical box office. Outside observers can't make anything more than very general conclusions about a film's profitability. It's certainly nowhere near as simple as dividing the worldwide gross by the most widely reported budget figure.

Exactly. I know where I work, we'd never release actual production costs on any project to the public. Notice how the numbers vary on all the box office sites. It's all speculation.

[antariksh]

BB did 190 Million in DVD sales/rentals by the end of last year....It's already passed its domestic take. I'd definately call that successful. I have no idea how FF did.

i mean the 60 million it did in rentals is upto now. By january 1st it had done 47 million while F4 had done 30 million.

So i just made ballpark numbers for BB and F4 upto this date.

BOTH did well.

[Carp Man]

Exactly. I know where I work, we'd never release actual production costs on any project to the public. Notice how the numbers vary on all the box office sites. It's all speculation.

I agree, it's all speculation, based on what each whatever hears from it's sources. Only the movie companies know for sure.

[antariksh]

OH **** i never thought about it guys if u want to know the production budget of X3 i can ask my uncle who works at FOX marketing department.

He might know the total budget for X3.

[Amm-arD]

Read my sig vvvvv

oh nice one man!

[danoyse]

OH **** i never thought about it guys if u want to know the production budget of X3 i can ask my uncle who works at FOX marketing department.

He might know the total budget for X3.

Also where I work, we have to sign things that keep us from sharing that information. :)

[antariksh]

Also where I work, we have to sign things that keep us from sharing that information. :)

meh i can just talk to my uncle on phone when he is at his home in USA. He is very open.

btw he doesn't like FOX that much but since he gets a good salary he is working there.

Afterall FOX is surviving due to geniuses like my uncle who propose what kind of marketing should be done for a film and then the HEAD of marketing likes it and approves.

[danoyse]

Everyone complains when comics don't translate word for word from the source material from the 60's which were all "kiddie cartoons". Read the dialogue it's corny as hell. All the heroes speak out loud what they're going to do next. It's so corny...but it was fun then. Now audiences are more complicated and the kids who grew up liking these characters wouldn't relate anymore without them being updated, and the rest of the world wouldn't buy a ticket without the origins changing to suit today's world, and the dialogue being a bit more intelligent than...."ugghhhhh trapped...in a sea of moss...must get out...maybe if I summon the jellyfish to use their electric impulses...ugghhhhhhhh....great Zeus!"

Haha...I can just imagine the box office results we'd be discussing if they'd done the full Phoenix story with the whole Shi'ar thing. :eek:

[danoyse]

meh i can just talk to my uncle on phone when he is at his home in USA. He is very open.

btw he doesn't like FOX that much but since he gets a good salary he is working there.

Afterall FOX is surviving due to geniuses like my uncle who propose what kind of marketing should be done for a film and then the HEAD of marketing likes it and approves.

I worked at Fox a few years ago. Hated it there. :mad:

[Carp Man]

oh nice one man!

Tks. :) And will be updated daily.

[Milkman95]

TY. And I respect yours or any other DC fan. We just disagree. And that's cool. When it comes down to DC, vs Marvel, I'm Marvel all the way. And when it comes down to FF vs any DC charactor, I'm FF in the extreme.

Which is why I like to debate with you Carp - you're so biased it's actually ridiculous, so I take you as entertainment.

I also like to hound you because you got your butt kicked last year by a fifth film in a franchise that looked all but dead after B&R. I guess when you actually release a quality film, not some watered down commercial version, it comes back to you in not only box office, but brings respectability to the genre - something ALL of us should want so we get more of these films.

[GL's Light]

Showbiz Data has Thursday's numbers up:

1. The Break-Up - $ 3.1 million
2. The Omen - $ 3.0 million
3. X3 - 2.4 million

Good Thursday hold for X3. BOM will have the actuals shortly.

[Forever is over]

I dont care which company your loyalty lies with, Batman Begins is just an awesome movie. Nevermind "Comic book movie" I think it stands on its own as just being a really great movie. Maybe you wont agree but I believe any fan of comics should check it out. To me it represents the kind of class and dignity that ALL comic book movies should be treated with.

[Forever is over]

No need to bicker over which film/company did better box office, its just silly. But any comic fan should see Batman Begins. By the way I like Marvel more but respect both. I certainly dont view any "Team" mentality.

[Iceman]

What is everyon expecting for this weekend's figures?

[GL's Light]

The major box office sites have made their weekend predictions. Here are their predictions for X3:

Box Office Guru - $ 17 million (- 50%)
The Numbers - $ 17 million (- 50%)
Box Office Mojo - $ 16.1 million (- 52.7%)
Box Office Prophets - $ 12 million (- 64.7%)

Box Office Prophets is really low-balling given the stable daily numbers X3 has posted. I think $ 16-17 million is most likely.

[Iceman]

The first three seem to be very close. $17m will be a good boost taking it towards X2 territory.

[Celestial]

Add to that

Weekend Warrior $17.2 m (-49%)

[liamoversion2]

It will be closer to 14 or 15... this movie has already made its money. Word of mouth has damaged it. The drops will continue.

[lordofthenerds]

It will be closer to 14 or 15... this movie has already made its money. Word of mouth has damaged it. The drops will continue.
Agreed. This movie's box office numbers are dropping fast.

[Carp Man]

Agreed. This movie's box office numbers are dropping fast.

And I still say the people who know have confidence. It has only dropped 10 theaters total going into its 3rd week. :up: I'll have the #'s as soon as their up.

[Carp Man]

Ok. Thursdays #'s are in. Updated #'s below.

Week 1 $ 141,331,162 domestic
Week 2 $ 44,834,912 domestic - 68.3 % drop

Total domestic $ 186,166,074

X-Men 2 Total Domestic $ 214,949,694

Difference $ 28,783,620

[GL's Light]

Thursday's actuals from BOM:

1. The Break-Up - $ 3,146,750 (- 6.8%)
2. The Omen - $ 3,058,611 (- 33.3%)
3. X3 - $ 2,387,089 (- 3.4%)

Domestic tally to date: $ 186,166,074.

On X2's comparable day it fell 23.11% to a $ 1.567 million take. X3's daily numbers have held up nicely this week.

[Iceman]

Thursday's actuals from BOM:

1. The Break-Up - $ 3,146,750 (- 6.8%)
2. The Omen - $ 3,058,611 (- 33.3%)
3. X3 - $ 2,387,089 (- 3.4%)

Domestic tally to date: $ 186,166,074.

On X2's comparable day it fell 23.11% to a $ 1.567 million take. X3's daily numbers have held up nicely this week.Thks - I'll update.

Yeah the day to day falls have not been too bad this week.

[lordofthenerds]

Thks - I'll update.

Yeah the day to day falls have not been too bad this week.
It held up to over 2 mil every day this week, but it will definently drop this weekend because of Cars.

[Iceman]

It held up to over 2 mil every day this week, but it will definently drop this weekend because of Cars.Yeah, hopefully not too much.

[antariksh]

It held up to over 2 mil every day this week, but it will definently drop this weekend because of Cars.

Actually guys CARS is NOT tracking as good as previous PIXAR movies. It will do between 50-55 million this weekend which is solid but compared to other PIXAR movies, it will be a dissapointment.

Ya as for X3 anything between 14-17 million is possible.

[Milkman95]

I think CARS can do better than $55m, but who knows, box office is tough to predict these days.

My bet is a 55% drop for X3 this weekend, putting it around $16 - $17 million.

[Fanticon]

I just want for it to break 200million by this weekends close...and continue to push untill it exceeds X2's take and hopefully reaches a domestic total to about 230 or 250million...any updates on the wordwide tally? or can we only get weekly totals?

[Milkman95]

My guess is it will top out between $230m and $240m. Depends on what it does this weekend really.........If that's the case, that would be disappointing since it took over half it's gross in it's first weekend - that shows that audiences didn't go back for seconds and WOM wasn't as strong as it should have been.

[Carp Man]

I just want for it to break 200million by this weekends close...and continue to push untill it exceeds X2's take and hopefully reaches a domestic total to about 230 or 250million...any updates on the wordwide tally? or can we only get weekly totals?

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[Carp Man]

My guess is it will top out between $230m and $240m. Depends on what it does this weekend really.........If that's the case, that would be disappointing since it took over half it's gross in it's first weekend - that shows that audiences didn't go back for seconds and WOM wasn't as strong as it should have been.

Only has 29 million to go to beat X2's domestic. I say 15 to 17 million this weekend. 15 million, will leave 14 million over next 4 days. over 3 million a day is a stretch. And their right, cars is not tracking that well. all estimates I've seen place it between 50 and 55 million for the weekend. It may surpise, and if it does that 17 million estimate for X3 will go down the tubes. I have seen 1 place say 12 million for X3. That's very possible if Cars has a bigger then expected weekend.

[GL's Light]

$ 50-55 million is too low for Cars. Most of the estimates range from low 60's to mid 70's. BOM is predicting $ 74.7 million.

[WorthyStevens]

My guess is it will top out between $230m and $240m. Depends on what it does this weekend really.........If that's the case, that would be disappointing since it took over half it's gross in it's first weekend - that shows that audiences didn't go back for seconds and WOM wasn't as strong as it should have been.

Technically... since it was a holiday weekend, $102 million was it's first weekend, so it should make well over half of it's first weekend by the end of X3's run.

[WorthyStevens]

$ 50-55 million is too low for Cars. Most of the estimates range from low 60's to mid 70's. BOM is predicting $ 74.7 million.

'Cars' will be huge. There's no doubt about that. I predict $75-80 million.

[lordofthenerds]

'Cars' will be huge. There's no doubt about that. I predict $75-80 million.
Agreed. People are underestimating it.

[antariksh]

$ 50-55 million is too low for Cars. Most of the estimates range from low 60's to mid 70's. BOM is predicting $ 74.7 million.

There is a difference between PREDICTION and TRACKING.

As of today friday june 9th 2006 CARS is tracking weaker than previous PIXAR movies.

So most probably all those predictions for CARS in the range of 65-75 million will go down the drain.

The best CARS can do is between 55-64 million this weekend OR the worst it can do is 45-54 million this weekend.

I WILL BE VERY HAPPY IF "cars" DOES LESS THAN 65 million opening weekend and both worthystevens4 and lordofthenerds eat their words aka predictions of 70-85 million.

[chaseter]

Sorry but Cars just doesn't look good. I am sure X3 will rack in around 15-25 million this weekend.

[Carp Man]

$ 50-55 million is too low for Cars. Most of the estimates range from low 60's to mid 70's. BOM is predicting $ 74.7 million.

Mojo must have just put theirs up. They predict 16.1 million for X3. If cars does 74 million, I dont see any way X3 can do 16 million. 12 to 14 million I would say.

[antariksh]

Sorry but Cars just doesn't look good. I am sure X3 will rack in around 15-25 million this weekend.

WELL SAID :up:

but i am hoping x3 can do between 15-17 million.

[BMM]

Sorry but Cars just doesn't look good. I am sure X3 will rack in around 15-25 million this weekend.

I don't see any way X3 will do 25 million this weekend.

[GL's Light]

There is a difference between PREDICTION and TRACKING.

As of today friday june 9th 2006 CARS is tracking weaker than previous PIXAR movies.

So most probably all those predictions for CARS in the range of 65-75 million will go down the drain.

The best CARS can do is between 55-64 million this weekend OR the worst it can do is 45-54 million this weekend.

I WILL BE VERY HAPPY IF "cars" DOES LESS THAN 65 million opening weekend and both worthystevens4 and lordofthenerds eat their words aka predictions of 70-85 million.
The tracking numbers for MI3 and The Break-Up were way off. It could be off for Cars, too. We'll see.

[lordofthenerds]

I don't see any way X3 will do 25 million this weekend.
Neither can I. It will make 13-16 million imo.

[Carp Man]

Neither can I. It will make 13-16 million imo.

15 to 17, but we're both in the park. Depends on Cars. Big weekend, it will be lucky to hit 13. Less then expected, 15 to 17.

[GL's Light]

X2 did $ 17 million in its third weekend in the face of the $ 91.7 million opening scored by The Matrix Reloaded - which played far more directly to the same demographics as X-Men than Cars does. So a $ 17 million weekend for X3 isn't out of the question, even if Cars opens huge.

[liamoversion2]

Yeah but with the promotion this movie has had it should be pushing 500 worldwide. Also with the saturation of the second movie everyone should be going to see X3. It was all over satelite channels. Anyone who didn't see X2 in a theater was pretty much guaranteed to see it on digital at some stage... Something's amiss and it must be due to word of mouth.

[Carp Man]

X2 did $ 17 million in its third weekend in the face of the $ 91.7 million opening scored by The Matrix Reloaded - which played far more directly to the same demographics as X-Men than Cars does. So a $ 17 million weekend for X3 isn't out of the question, even if Cars opens huge.

Was a different time. Gas prices were not as high. Folks have less bucks to spend. They are cutting back on their driving, and luxuries like entertainment. Less bucks to go around then 3 years ago.

[GL's Light]

Was a different time. Gas prices were not as high. Folks have less bucks to spend. They are cutting back on their driving, and luxuries like entertainment. Less bucks to go around then 3 years ago.
I don't buy that. There's never been a demonstrable connection between box office returns and high gas prices or any other economic hardship.

[danoyse]

$ 50-55 million is too low for Cars. Most of the estimates range from low 60's to mid 70's. BOM is predicting $ 74.7 million.

That high? Wow. Guess I'll be hanging on to my Disney stock.

Love your avvy, GL. :)

[GL's Light]

Love your avvy, GL. :)
Thanks. Finally hit 300 posts. I get to have an avvy! Yay! :)

[crappymovie]

X2 did $ 17 million in its third weekend in the face of the $ 91.7 million opening scored by The Matrix Reloaded - which played far more directly to the same demographics as X-Men than Cars does. So a $ 17 million weekend for X3 isn't out of the question, even if Cars opens huge.

Exactly, whether Cars makes $65-80 million is not a big deal, totally different demographics. X3 will hopefully do at least 16-17, but that prediction is very optimistic....