View Full Version : Batman/Joker=Superman/Lex Luthor.......Batman/Ra's Al Ghul=Superman/Darkseid
NotFadeAway
05-27-2006, 06:47 PM
Hopefully you all understand what Im getting at here. It just occured to me this should be in the sequel forum. Oh well, Ill wait for it to be moved:) Darkseid, and maybe Braniac, are the only other Supes villians who can carry a film without Luthor, therefor.............
Darkseid in the sequel baby........APOKOLIPS NOW! Screw Braniac, lets go straight to the biggest bad ass in the universe. Darkseid would break Zod in half. Kneel before that, biatch.
Fatboy Roberts
05-27-2006, 06:51 PM
you suck at math ;)
Brainiac is pretty much locked for the sequel if the ending of SR matches the novelization.
NotFadeAway
05-27-2006, 07:01 PM
I know he is, and I like that computer alot as well, but I can dream can't I.
And in the thread title Im trying to say that while Luthor and Joker are the main villians, in terms of respectability, Ra's and Darkseid are right there with them.
Save Darkseid for the 3rd film... It could all build up to him. Luthor, Brainiac and Darkseid are the major badasses of the Supes rogues anyways.
In the final ep of JLU, its all about them.
NotFadeAway
05-27-2006, 07:06 PM
That sounds good......
I think a new villian for the seqeul, such as Braniac, will be very good for the franchise. And then Darkseid invades Earth in the 3rd film.
The way Brainiac could sound...is awesome. Created from the advanced Kryptonian crystal tech, an artificial intelliegence building up omnipotent knowledge in space...
The twist is Lex is somewhat responsible for his creation too...so now hes tied to this.
He could be as cold and ruthless as Brainiac of the animated series......and hopefully not Zod's biatch like the sv version.
Lightning54SC
05-27-2006, 07:18 PM
move this to the sequal fourm
thorstone
05-27-2006, 07:20 PM
Doomsday or Darkseid, they need to get to the villains which are worthy of the man of steel rather than pussy footing around like Xmen and not giving us Apocalypse.
Lex is to Superman as Green Goblin was to Spiderman in the first movie. Rather than Goblin, or simply Goblin alone, they should have started with Doc Ock.
Lightning54SC
05-27-2006, 07:22 PM
never the sotry of spiderman saga started perfect as the harry and peter interaction good friends to bitter enemys
Agreed. But I doubt they'll ever use Doomsday.
He was nothing more than a plot device in the comics to kill off Superman and the comic writers even acknowledged that.
Brainiac and Darkseid are the way to go.
Darkseid could even have a young Kryptonian survivor child (Kara Zor-El) as his hostage....and he uses that to manipulate Superman.
NotFadeAway
05-27-2006, 07:27 PM
Darkseid could be partially responsible for the destruction of Krypton.....not the outright desturction, but maybe an attack on the planet could have left caused the eventual destruction.
And I would love to see Braniac be like the ruthless Animated Series version.
TheJaberwock
05-27-2006, 08:43 PM
Brainiac is pretty much locked for the sequel if the ending of SR matches the novelization.
how does the novelization end?
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:45 PM
Dark Seid is just too BIG of a Villain. I'd prefer Mettalo for the next Superman movie.
Mr. Thing
05-27-2006, 08:47 PM
PARASITE DAMMIT! :mad:
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:50 PM
^not too bad, perhaps 2 villains for our sequel.
Dark Seid is just too BIG of a Villain. I'd prefer Mettalo for the next Superman movie.
Nah. Metallos too small of a villian. Just a thug with a Kryptonite heart, too Krypto-freak of the week (thats Smallvilles territory).
Brainiac is the big cheese for the sequel.
Mr. Thing
05-27-2006, 08:51 PM
^not too bad, perhaps 2 villains for our sequel.
Yeah, Parasite could be a pawn...plus on film he could be extremely badass.
PARASITE DAMMIT! :mad:
Nah. Save Parasite for the animated release... They were planning to release a DVD that ties into SR (animatrix style).
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:52 PM
Nah. Save Parasite for the animated release... They were planning to release a DVD that ties into SR (animatrix style).
Tell me you just made a funny.
Yeah, Parasite could be a pawn...plus on film he could be extremely badass.
The only pawn in the next movie has to be Luthor. Brainiac is coming to town :)
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:53 PM
Yeah, Parasite could be a pawn...plus on film he could be extremely badass.
I'd want him to send cold chills down my body then be badass. Lets call him parasite for a reason :up:
Tell me you just made a funny.
Nope it was confirmed in a press release ages ago. They were planning to do it in the near future....to continue the hype for SR after the movie.
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:54 PM
Nope it was confirmed in a press release ages ago. They were planning to do it in the near future....to continue the hype for SR after the movie.
Brandon Routh doing the voice or anything like that?
AND how long after SR will it be released?
Spare-Flair
05-27-2006, 08:55 PM
Sorry, Superman is never going to Apokolips in the movies. Superman will stay on earth for sakes of budget and for the wide audience.
how does the novelization end?
Ends with Supes throwing New Krypton into space to be destroyed (to save the earth) before he dies. In the end, the crystal technology starts to rebuild itself in space and grow........into something
()...()
..\../
...()
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 08:58 PM
Ends with Supes throwing New Krypton into space to be destroyed (to save the earth) before he dies. In the end, the crystal technology starts to rebuild itself in space and grow........into something
()...()
..\../
...()
I love it when movies do that, after everything is ok, they go to somewhere dark, and show you...it's not over yet :) :up:
Why we even talking about future villains, if we kinda already know who's next.
Sorry, Superman is never going to Apokolips in the movies. Superman will stay on earth for sakes of budget and for the wide audience.
:rolleyes: Never say never. He goes to the remains of Krypton in this anyways.... and budget? Its 200 million for goodness sakes.
Anything can happen.
Why we even talking about future villains, if we kinda already know who's next.
Cause logic doesnt apply to SHH.
Brandon Routh doing the voice or anything like that?
AND how long after SR will it be released?
Didnt say. All they said is its on their to-do list for SR promotions. lol The Smallville fans thought the SR DVD release was a Smallville movie at first, that was funny.
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 09:02 PM
Cause logic doesnt apply to SHH.
Hold it HOLD IT!!, you said that the left over pieces of NK start to rebuild themselfs. Well...the braniac well all know is like...a computer machine thingy. NOW if he's being built from crystals....then...he's not gonna be a computer thing.
right :confused:
Hold it HOLD IT!!, you said that the left over pieces of NK start to rebuild themselfs. Well...the braniac well all know is like...a computer machine thingy. NOW if he's being built from crystals....then...he's not gonna be a computer thing.
The crystals are technology....Kryptonian techology...they hold data files just like a computer.
Thats how Jor-El and his fortress programs worked in STM, there were training programs etc...that where all in Crystal format.
So it is a computer of sorts.....something that can be a repository of knowlegde...
Thats what Brainiac was in the animated series:
Superman: Are you from Krypton?
Brainiac: "I AM KRYPTON!.................biatch"
BrollySupersj
05-27-2006, 09:11 PM
The crystals are technology....Kryptonian techology...they hold data files just like a computer.
Thats how Jor-El and his fortress programs worked in STM, there were training programs etc...that where all in Crystal format.
So it is a computer of sorts.....something that can be a repository of knowlegde...
Thats what Brainiac was in the animated series:
Superman: Are you from Krypton?
Brainiac: "I AM KRYPTON!.................biatch"
Well, thats cool I guess.
MoreCowbell
05-27-2006, 10:02 PM
If the X-men trilogy is an indication, Lex Luthor will be around in all 3 films.
I imagine it might look like a Magneto situation.
SR- Lex is the main villain.
SM2- Sounds like Brianiac is coming. Luthor again (since he's stranded on an island) could be a co-villain or just have a smaller role then the main villain.
S3- Even though Singer didn't do X3, I imagine Magneto would again been in it in some fashion (and why not, Ian McKellen is amazing in that role). That arc wasn't completed for Mags, so possibly Luthor could be involved once again to try and finish the job he started.
I KNOW that it isn't the most popular idea, but Singer is big on character developement and it extends through multiple films. I honestly believe it will be Luthor, Brainiac, Luthor.
I think they'll go more than 3 films if SR is a success. Brandon and Kate are definately young enough and even Spiderman may go into Spiderman 4.
Hunter Rider
05-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Brainiac is ideal for the sequel IMO,i just hope he looks a bit like this:up:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4343/brainiacstas4hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)
Lightning54SC
05-27-2006, 11:18 PM
Brainiac is ideal for the sequel IMO,i just hope he looks a bit like this:up:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4343/brainiacstas4hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://imageshack.us/)
x2 i like him as well
MoreCowbell
05-27-2006, 11:22 PM
I like how Smallville did Braniac. He was T1000 esk. Could turn his arms into swords and stuff.
Lightning54SC
05-27-2006, 11:25 PM
id like him to be half robot half doctor ock
NotFadeAway
05-27-2006, 11:33 PM
I like how Smallville did Braniac. He was T1000 esk. Could turn his arms into swords and stuff.
Yea but that was like an extension of Braniac. The TRUE Braniac was the ship.
I like how Smallville did Braniac. He was T1000 esk. Could turn his arms into swords and stuff.
Ya, that would be too much of a blantant ripoff of Terminator for the film though.
I also agree that the movie Brainiac should resemble STAS (since his backstory is somewhat similar with one twist...)
Lex was responsible for his creation....meaning it'd be cool for Brainiac to travel to Earth to seek Lex Luthor out (perhaps to evaluate his purpose)....like Professor Ivo's Robot in JLU "The Return"
Theres also the possibility that the entire planet Krypton may have been recreated in space (those who read the novel came to this conclusion in that thread) and Brainiac is at the core of this crystal based world. He could use holographic imagery to make it seem like there are survivors and the planet is alive.....all to lure Kal-El.
Brainiac does have something Kal-El wants; all the memories and knowledge of everything Krypton once was, stored within him....
I love this concept.
Robin91939
05-28-2006, 01:16 AM
Based on rumors and my own wants, these are the two franchises as I see them.
Title:Villians CAPITAL LETTERS= Main villain
BATMAN BEGINS (2005): Scarecrow, RA'S AL GHUL, Falcone, Ubu, Zsasz
BATMAN II (2007): Penguin, Maroni, Black Mask, JOKER
BATMAN III (2009): Catwoman, JOKER, TWO-FACE
SUPERMAN RETURNS (2006): LEX LUTHOR
SUPERMAN (2008): BRAINIAC, Lex Luthor
SUPERMAN (2010): THE MAN OF STEEL: Lex Luthor, DARKSEID
WORLD'S FINEST (2012): LEX LUTHOR, JOKER, RA'S AL GHUL, METALLO
-R
Joker and Harvey Dent are in the next Batman film (confirmed).....I duno about the others.
For World's Finest, along with Lex and Joker, they should use Bizzaro and Manbat as the muscle; the dark reflections of the WF duo.
NotFadeAway
05-28-2006, 01:54 PM
It seems like there building Harvey Dent/Two-Face to be the main villian in the new Batman trilogy.
BH/HHH
05-28-2006, 02:18 PM
I'd like Brainiac in SR2 maybe along with Bizzarro and in SR3 we could have Darkseid.
BH/HHH
05-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Ends with Supes throwing New Krypton into space to be destroyed (to save the earth) before he dies. In the end, the crystal technology starts to rebuild itself in space and grow........into something
()...()
..\../
...()
Superman Dies???
ROBOCOP CPU001
05-28-2006, 02:26 PM
Brainiac for the sequel.
I think it has already been set up.
BH/HHH
05-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Brainiac for the sequel.
I think it has already been set up.
Love the Avatar :up:
ROBOCOP CPU001
05-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Love the Avatar :up:
Thankyou.
hunter at his best.
:up:
JamalYIgle
05-28-2006, 03:29 PM
Jon Peters doesn't have the film rights to any of the New Gods characters and since they are tied into that property, No Darkseid in a Superman film.
h0metwnhero
05-28-2006, 05:14 PM
everybody is so quick to jump on the braniac theory just because of STAS tie it had to krypton. wasnt there something else based on kryptonian technology...oh yeah....the eradicator. im not talking about that goofy half assed version they whipped together for death/return of supes. im referring to the one who wanted to rebuild earth and what not.
Fatboy Roberts
05-28-2006, 05:20 PM
Holy s**t this thing made it to 3 pages?
Why the hell is this still here?
NotFadeAway
05-28-2006, 05:43 PM
everybody is so quick to jump on the braniac theory just because of STAS tie it had to krypton. wasnt there something else based on kryptonian technology...oh yeah....the eradicator. im not talking about that goofy half assed version they whipped together for death/return of supes. im referring to the one who wanted to rebuild earth and what not.
I think it be kick ass to feature the Eradictor if done right. Wanting to basically wipe Earth clean and rebuild Krypton.
h0metwnhero
05-28-2006, 06:15 PM
yeah but again i see that being a series of natural disasters
with the exception of the two of them facing off
i would actually like to see a villian thats gunning for superman
i sorta wanna say like superman 4 ....then again
i dont
Rynan
05-28-2006, 11:43 PM
I always wanted to see Brainiac in a Superman film, so I hope he's in the sequel.
http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/BrainiacRobotic.jpg
http://www.mygenerationtoys.com/catalog/images/Super%20Powers%20Brainiac%20Complete.jpg
I love that version of Brainiac. Thats how I want it in the movie. Obviously it will look more Crystal-like though, but a cold blooded machine with an awesome voice actor.
No real actor, no Milton Fine... it would be lame then.
Rynan
05-29-2006, 06:50 PM
Heaven forbid you forget about his awesome Skull ship.
http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/b02_12.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/tmc_132000/vehic_brain_thumb.jpg
That would be a tragedy not to have.
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