X-Men: The Last Stand actually the most "comic book" for me

[Fanged-Hunter]

Mainly there were so many non-death deaths that this one is definitely the most comic book feeling for me.

Cyclops: Death by assumption.
Cyclops' face began to ripple as he kissed Jean and he opened his eyes. After that, we know nothing except that they find his glasses and Jean unconcsious. Why did Jean pass out after obliterating Cyclops? Or moreso, why did Phoenix?

Here's a thought, she didn't kill him. He felt something was wrong, obviously, and could have pushed her back, his optic blast being released. Remember his power is a concussive blast, not energy. It's like a megaton hammer wailing on something. Blasting Jean from close range, assuming Phoenix pulled up a tek shield would possibly knock her out as well as send Scott flying well into the woods from the force. So why didn't they find him? Well, Charles never looked for Cyclops with Cerebro that we know, as he was dealing with repressing Phoenix. Put a guy in the woods, lost, and essentially blind and he's not likely going to show back up.

Verdict: Comic book movie adapts comic book rules. No corpse, definitely no certain death.

Mystique
Death by power loss and the question of her betrayal
We see Magneto's powers returning, and he was jabbed with four needles. Mystique was shot with one, so theoretically she'd regain her powers if the writers wanted her to. As for her betrayal, I find it odd that she turned in Magneto and sent them to his base at the right time for them to find Multiple Man as a decoy. Was this part of the plan in the long run and despite being jilted, Mystique went through with it? No telling for sure.

Verdict: A likely return if X4 is made (and box office results beg why they wouldn't)

Rogue
Death by power loss
Similar to Mystique, she can easily regain her powers, likely at the worst possible moment.

Verdict: A likely return

Magneto
Death by power loss
Clearly coming back as he moved the chess piece


Charles Xavier
Death by obliteration
Quite possibly the most comic book style non-death of the film. Before he's wiped out, he looked to Wolverine and...smiles. Clearly, he knows something we don't.

Now, then, the body was born with no brain activity, but the body functions. This is essentially a shell, so should we transfer a mind into it, is it ethical? It could be very ethical if the person taking care of it is a geneticist and close personal friend.

Arguably, by comic possibility, Charles could have worked with Moira to creat a clone of himself, but telepathically kept the mind from developing. Essentially, this would create a shell of himself ready in case of the worst happening. This also lets us bring back Xavier with Patrick Stewart as the body, not just the voice.

Biggest Disappointment for me:
Psylocke. Why put her in the movie if you don't even give her her powers? She would have fit in for a Wolverine movie as an ally or enemy if it were to take place in Japan.

The Cure not working?
Well, Leech's power only works when you're near him. They based it off his DNA, so it's not impossible to imagine that they didn't test it enough to find that it has a temporary effect.

And finally, sorry for posting a new thread that likely could have been addressed in multiple other threads. I'm back after a while and wasn't sure the best way to browse through boards for all these points.

[Secret_Riddle]

i dono man u bring up some interesting points and there was a lot more comic book aspects to this one then the previous 2 movies.... but i dono i found this one more unrealistic as opposed to more comic booky.

then again comic books r more unrealistic and this movie was tragic wich was something that the first 2 never really caputured except for the end of 2. and i find then comics r very tragic. so i guess your right but im a hard core comic fan and i enjoyed x2 more then x3..

[WTFimVENOM]

Mainly there were so many non-death deaths that this one is definitely the most comic book feeling for me.

Cyclops: Death by assumption.
Cyclops' face began to ripple as he kissed Jean and he opened his eyes. After that, we know nothing except that they find his glasses and Jean unconcsious. Why did Jean pass out after obliterating Cyclops? Or moreso, why did Phoenix?

Here's a thought, she didn't kill him. He felt something was wrong, obviously, and could have pushed her back, his optic blast being released. Remember his power is a concussive blast, not energy. It's like a megaton hammer wailing on something. Blasting Jean from close range, assuming Phoenix pulled up a tek shield would possibly knock her out as well as send Scott flying well into the woods from the force. So why didn't they find him? Well, Charles never looked for Cyclops with Cerebro that we know, as he was dealing with repressing Phoenix. Put a guy in the woods, lost, and essentially blind and he's not likely going to show back up.

Verdict: Comic book movie adapts comic book rules. No corpse, definitely no certain death.

Mystique
Death by power loss and the question of her betrayal
We see Magneto's powers returning, and he was jabbed with four needles. Mystique was shot with one, so theoretically she'd regain her powers if the writers wanted her to. As for her betrayal, I find it odd that she turned in Magneto and sent them to his base at the right time for them to find Multiple Man as a decoy. Was this part of the plan in the long run and despite being jilted, Mystique went through with it? No telling for sure.

Verdict: A likely return if X4 is made (and box office results beg why they wouldn't)

Rogue
Death by power loss
Similar to Mystique, she can easily regain her powers, likely at the worst possible moment.

Verdict: A likely return

Magneto
Death by power loss
Clearly coming back as he moved the chess piece


Charles Xavier
Death by obliteration
Quite possibly the most comic book style non-death of the film. Before he's wiped out, he looked to Wolverine and...smiles. Clearly, he knows something we don't.

Now, then, the body was born with no brain activity, but the body functions. This is essentially a shell, so should we transfer a mind into it, is it ethical? It could be very ethical if the person taking care of it is a geneticist and close personal friend.

Arguably, by comic possibility, Charles could have worked with Moira to creat a clone of himself, but telepathically kept the mind from developing. Essentially, this would create a shell of himself ready in case of the worst happening. This also lets us bring back Xavier with Patrick Stewart as the body, not just the voice.

Biggest Disappointment for me:
Psylocke. Why put her in the movie if you don't even give her her powers? She would have fit in for a Wolverine movie as an ally or enemy if it were to take place in Japan.

The Cure not working?
Well, Leech's power only works when you're near him. They based it off his DNA, so it's not impossible to imagine that they didn't test it enough to find that it has a temporary effect.

And finally, sorry for posting a new thread that likely could have been addressed in multiple other threads. I'm back after a while and wasn't sure the best way to browse through boards for all these points.

WOW, you read my mind exactly! Even up to the Psylock being the biggest dissapointment.

[L0ngsh0t]

yeah it may be more unrealistic but how real are the stuff they are supposebly basing the movies on?

there comic books...i agree more comic booky, i liked it

[Jake-El]

Ya know something? I agree. I believe this movie along with being more comic accurate, was actually leaps and bounds better than the first two, Singer be damned.

[WTFimVENOM]

Did anyone call her Psylocke in the movie? It would be great if she was put into a future X-movie and it was clearly her (called by her name + use of more of her powers) so we could just say that the mutant in X3 was somebody else

[comicgirl]

yeah it may be more unrealistic but how real are the stuff they are supposebly basing the movies on?

there comic books...i agree more comic booky, i liked itOh, yeah!! I loved the mutant on mutant fights (finally)! Best movie

[ShadowBoxing]

Ya know something? I agree. I believe this movie along with being more comic accurate, was actually leaps and bounds better than the first two, Singer be damned.You did not just say more comic accurate, exactly what comic was that accurate two, because the characters barely resembled their comic selves (even the ones that did were underused, or on the wrong side i.e. multiple man) and the storyline was not anything from the comic.period.exclamation point.question mark.period.

[WTFimVENOM]

You did not just say more comic accurate, exactly what comic was that accurate two, because the characters barely resembled their comic selves (even the ones that did were underused, or on the wrong side i.e. multiple man) and the storyline was not anything from the comic.period.exclamation point.question mark.period.
Yeah, I really liked how they did multiple man but I would have liked it much better if he was on the right side

[D-scythe]

Ya know something? I agree. I believe this movie along with being more comic accurate, was actually leaps and bounds better than the first two, Singer be damned.

How so? Was it the part where Logan replaced Scott in the Dark Phoenix plot? Or the part where Logan acted like Scott? Or the part where Rogue took the mutant cure? There's more mischaracterizations, but I'm not gonna go on.

But to say that it was more comic book accurate...the statement is laughable.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I really liked how they did multiple man but I would have liked it much better if he was on the right sideI mean honestly I don't care about that. Multiple Man was great, thats not my point. My point is IT'S NOT comic accurate. Accuracy denotes it follows the comic to some degree. For example Sin City is the height of comic accuracy. X2 is comic accurate in much less an extent, but follows a basic comic storyline. The first X-Men Graphic Novel, God Loves Man Kills. Spider-Man(s) would also fall as comic accurate, as would Batman Begins to high degrees. Because for the most part the characters match up with their comic counterparts and the origins are basically the same for most characters.

[ShadowBoxing]

How so? Was it the part where Logan replaced Scott in the Dark Phoenix plot? Or the part where Logan acted like Scott? Or the part where Rogue took the mutant cure? There's more mischaracterizations, but I'm not gonna go on.

But to say that it was more comic book accurate...the statement is laughable.It is, I don't get the impression that 75% of the users on the X-forum even read or know about the comic. I have heard several say Gambit should have been present in the Phoenix Saga, or where was Morph. Not only that several people don't understand exactly what is wrong with killing Cyclops in THIS particular movie.

[mysticalflames]

You are right, I hope that in X4 they play by comic standards, because if not, No Jean and who knows whos next to die :(?

[Darkdd]

It is for me too.I went home after seeing the movie and it felt as if i had just finished reading a (great) Marvel event of the year.

[ShadowBoxing]

You are right, I hope that in X4 they play by comic standards, because if not, No Jean and who knows whos next to die :(?For the next one bring Cyclops back. End this whole mutant/human/brotherhood love hate fest they have going on because its old. Send them into space and have them fight the Brood or something. Bring Cyclops back have him lead and do the Brood storyline or the Fall of the Mutants storyline (with Apocalypse) or even better yet if you want to keep the tone do the Genosha storyline with Hodge and the Sentinels.

[DMRadz]

Did anyone call her Psylocke in the movie? It would be great if she was put into a future X-movie and it was clearly her (called by her name + use of more of her powers) so we could just say that the mutant in X3 was somebody else

No but the credits say Psylocke.

[crappymovie]

The movie butchered the character of Phoenix. Any fan can tell you that she's not just a minion of Magneto, to be used as the ultimate weapon. And she would have destroyed Logan...wait her "love" for him prevented her from destroying him.

[D-scythe]

It is for me too.I went home after seeing the movie and it felt as if i had just finished reading a (great) Marvel event of the year.

Which begs the question - have you ever read an X-men comic in your life?

[ShadowBoxing]

The movie butchered the character of Phoenix. Any fan can tell you that she's not just a minion of Magneto, to be used as the ultimate weapon. And she would have destroyed Logan...wait her "love" for him prevented her from destroying him.The point of the Phoenix Saga and the point of what Charles said in X3 kinda indicated she could not be controlled. Hence the Shi'ar involvement in Uncanny X-Men. However in X3 Magneto does a very nice job of controlling her. In fact she is obedient to him until the very end, where she is still trying to destroy what Magneto told her to destroy. If this were the real Phoenix she would have killed Magneto the minute that battle scene started. whipped out the entire base and X-Men with a thought, especially Wolverine who she did not give a hoot about for the last 45 minutes of the film.

In the comic the point was clear. Scott ask her "why won't you kill me" and she replies (which should have been in X3) "because you're not worth it". But Scott knows there is another reason. She obviously loved Scott when she turned Logan down in the last film, and obviously did not care about Logan enough to stay with the X-Men. She just sat there like a veggitable after killing all the people who could have brought her back thus causing the Deus Ex Machina ending with Wolverine.

[ShadowBoxing]

It is for me too.I went home after seeing the movie and it felt as if i had just finished reading a (great) Marvel event of the year.Have you ever read the actual Phoenix Saga, or any X-Men comic for that matter.

[Darkdd]

Which begs the question - have you ever read an X-men comic in your life?
Yes,I have.

[The Kid]

What the hell happened to Xavier's levelheaded cool attitude. tell me.

[jusblaze21]

Although the previous movies were not completely accurate to the comic book. X3 is the most inaccurate to the comic.

[Darkdd]

I think that was a little off.I think the director,etc. wanted to play up the 'Prof.X is a jerk' angle.

[crappymovie]

"I warned you."

[ShadowBoxing]

Yes,I have.Which ones?

[Nathan]

I can't believe that all it takes are flashy effects and action scenes to make people say that this is the most accurate comic movie ever.

Reading comments like that makes me feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

[Darkdd]

Most of the new one's,like X-men,Astonishing,NXM etc.And the old one's that my uncle(who's a huge nerd lol) allows me to touch.

[D-scythe]

It is for me too.I went home after seeing the movie and it felt as if i had just finished reading a (great) Marvel event of the year.

Tell me, which of the X-men were actually in character then? Ororo "My attitude makes me the leader" Monroe? Jean, who lusted openly over Logan and became a quiet servant of Magneto? Logan, who became Scott? Scott, who became a cameo? Rogue, who went against everything she stood for and took the cure? Xavier, the jerk? Bobby "where are my jokes?" Iceman? etc. etc.

The list goes on - for every X-men character X3 got right, they put another 20 people out-of-character.

Your statements seems more like a lame excuse to pass X3 as what it definitely is NOT - a comic book movie. A summer action flick, definitely, an okay one at that, but to claim that it's truer to the comic origins than other movies is...laughable.

Hahahaha.

[Warhammer]

Mainly there were so many non-death deaths that this one is definitely the most comic book feeling for me.

Cyclops: Death by assumption.
Cyclops' face began to ripple as he kissed Jean and he opened his eyes. After that, we know nothing except that they find his glasses and Jean unconcsious. Why did Jean pass out after obliterating Cyclops? Or moreso, why did Phoenix?

Here's a thought, she didn't kill him. He felt something was wrong, obviously, and could have pushed her back, his optic blast being released. Remember his power is a concussive blast, not energy. It's like a megaton hammer wailing on something. Blasting Jean from close range, assuming Phoenix pulled up a tek shield would possibly knock her out as well as send Scott flying well into the woods from the force. So why didn't they find him? Well, Charles never looked for Cyclops with Cerebro that we know, as he was dealing with repressing Phoenix. Put a guy in the woods, lost, and essentially blind and he's not likely going to show back up.

Verdict: Comic book movie adapts comic book rules. No corpse, definitely no certain death.

Mystique
Death by power loss and the question of her betrayal
We see Magneto's powers returning, and he was jabbed with four needles. Mystique was shot with one, so theoretically she'd regain her powers if the writers wanted her to. As for her betrayal, I find it odd that she turned in Magneto and sent them to his base at the right time for them to find Multiple Man as a decoy. Was this part of the plan in the long run and despite being jilted, Mystique went through with it? No telling for sure.

Verdict: A likely return if X4 is made (and box office results beg why they wouldn't)

Rogue
Death by power loss
Similar to Mystique, she can easily regain her powers, likely at the worst possible moment.

Verdict: A likely return

Magneto
Death by power loss
Clearly coming back as he moved the chess piece


Charles Xavier
Death by obliteration
Quite possibly the most comic book style non-death of the film. Before he's wiped out, he looked to Wolverine and...smiles. Clearly, he knows something we don't.

Now, then, the body was born with no brain activity, but the body functions. This is essentially a shell, so should we transfer a mind into it, is it ethical? It could be very ethical if the person taking care of it is a geneticist and close personal friend.

Arguably, by comic possibility, Charles could have worked with Moira to creat a clone of himself, but telepathically kept the mind from developing. Essentially, this would create a shell of himself ready in case of the worst happening. This also lets us bring back Xavier with Patrick Stewart as the body, not just the voice.

Biggest Disappointment for me:
Psylocke. Why put her in the movie if you don't even give her her powers? She would have fit in for a Wolverine movie as an ally or enemy if it were to take place in Japan.

The Cure not working?
Well, Leech's power only works when you're near him. They based it off his DNA, so it's not impossible to imagine that they didn't test it enough to find that it has a temporary effect.

And finally, sorry for posting a new thread that likely could have been addressed in multiple other threads. I'm back after a while and wasn't sure the best way to browse through boards for all these points.

Nice. :up:

[ShadowBoxing]

I can't believe that all it takes are flashy effects and action scenes to make people say that this is the most accurate comic movie ever.

Reading comments like that makes me feel like I'm in the twilight zone.Thats not what the comic was. In fact everything that comic was, was summed up by Cyclops before his marriage to Jean Grey.

Looking down at them raking leaves.

Scott: From up here they almost look like a family....almost.

The comic is about the characters, not their powers. If you think its about the powers you should try reading the words next time.

[Darkdd]

Wait wait wait wait,I did not say that this movie was true to the comics,I said that the movie itself felt like its own comic.

[D-scythe]

Wait wait wait wait,I did not say that this movie was true to the comics,I said that the movie itself felt like its own comic.

Whoops, my bad. I thought you agreed with the starter of the thread.

[Darkdd]

No prob:up:

[ShadowBoxing]

Wait wait wait wait,I did not say that this movie was true to the comics,I said that the movie itself felt like its own comic.Okay, I guess:confused: However truly every movie feels like its own comic since comics kinda run the gamet when it comes to genres.

[Warhammer]

I really liked X3, but the most "comic-book" movie will always be Hellboy.


:cool:

[ShadowBoxing]

I really liked X3, but the most "comic-book" movie will always be Hellboy.


:cool:What about Sin City, it truly does not get anymore comic book than that, ever.

[godlike13]

x3 felt least like the comic book. it was more like look what stars we got to play in our movie cool huh

[Warhammer]

What about Sin City, it truly does not get anymore comic book than that, ever.

Dang, I forgot all about Sin City.

[Fanged-Hunter]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

Hold the phone, back up, stop!

I NEVER, not ONCE, said that X3 was the closest translation of X-Men comic book to X-Men movie in my original thread. Everyone can simply stop drinking their haterade for the film.

If you're looking for a comic book in motion, you're better off watching the 90s X-Men cartoon (which still isn't complete on DVD grrr snarl). You should never have expected the comic to be replicated page by page in the movie. Now, the original Jim Lee X-Men 1-3 (I think it was just 3) even with the new costumes and such would have been amazing, but you actually would have found it boring.

That's right boring.

Harry Potter followed the books scene for scene to a good extent and the first two where they required less editing for time were far less interesting than Lord of the Rings, which made changes while keeping to the spirit of the books.

Paper and film can almost never be exact. Mind you, I said almost.

But back to the original point of my thread, you hijackers, I never said "comic book accurate" I said it was the most "comic book" in that it had the most comic style themes of non deaths. NON DEATHS are the topic here, nothing else.

And if you're complaining about the characters in X3 being nothing like the comic counterparts, and you're accusing others of not reading a comic, have you even seen the first two? Ratner worked with the characters he had, he couldn't do a 180 and put the comic characters in when the movie versions were established.

[ShadowBoxing]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

Hold the phone, back up, stop!

I NEVER, not ONCE, said that X3 was the closest translation of X-Men comic book to X-Men movie in my original thread. Everyone can simply stop drinking their haterade for the film.

If you're looking for a comic book in motion, you're better off watching the 90s X-Men cartoon (which still isn't complete on DVD grrr snarl). You should never have expected the comic to be replicated page by page in the movie. Now, the original Jim Lee X-Men 1-3 (I think it was just 3) even with the new costumes and such would have been amazing, but you actually would have found it boring.

That's right boring.

Harry Potter followed the books scene for scene to a good extent and the first two where they required less editing for time were far less interesting than Lord of the Rings, which made changes while keeping to the spirit of the books.

Paper and film can almost never be exact. Mind you, I said almost.

But back to the original point of my thread, you hijackers, I never said "comic book accurate" I said it was the most "comic book" in that it had the most comic style themes of non deaths. NON DEATHS are the topic here, nothing else.

And if you're complaining about the characters in X3 being nothing like the comic counterparts, and you're accusing others of not reading a comic, have you even seen the first two? Ratner worked with the characters he had, he couldn't do a 180 and put the comic characters in when the movie versions were established.Right I believe I pointed out NON deaths are not really a part of comic books, they are a part of bad writing. Most comic fans hate deaths/ressaurections as now they are normally done for sale. Back when the original Phoenix Saga was written death in comics was rare and when it did happen very memorable. Cyclops, Xavier, Magneto, the Brotherhood never die in the Phoenix Saga (in fact the latter are not involved). However direct translations aside. The reason Phoenix's death was so impacting was because of Scott and because it was the only prominent death in the story (outside of that star system no one knew anybody from).

Comic books run the gamet when it comes to genres. Saying X3 is the most comic book because of non deaths is ludacrious. Its like saying its the most comic book because Wolverine has claws, or the X-Jet flies. Non deaths are just a byproduct of the length that comic characters stay around and the constant switch of writers and artists who may not be particularly fond of a character.

To be the most comic book you have to capture the essence of a story and it's characters. Sin City did so through direct translation, Spider-Man and Batman Begins(while the origin and story is very similar indeed) does so by "sticking to the heart and soul of the characters". This means they act as they are suppose to and that the story revolves around the correct entities (i.e. in Spider-Man's case, Peter's stuggle with his Uncle Ben's commitment to responsibility as his everyman image).

X-Men the Phoenix Saga is about one thing: love. The love between Scott Summers and Jean Grey: even ends with Scott Summers purposing (right before her death in the next issue). It is bittersweet as we watch a love so strong that Jean Grey is willing to sacrifice herself to save the man she loves from ever being a victim of it (something that movie destroyed in the first ten minutes). Forget the Hellfire Club, forget the Shi'ar, forget star systems. The Phoenix Saga was no mere action movie, so no it did not feel like the comics. Maybe it felt like a comic, but thats not the comic it was adapting (but then a comic can be action, drama, comedy, anything really), it was adapting the Phoenix Saga, and non deaths had nothing to do with the original Phoenix Saga. Nor does their cliche'd nature in a movie make it feel like a comic. The characters and story are responsible for that.

Actually a large criticism of Ratner is that he did a 180 on Singer's characters, who aside from Storm, actually did resemble their comic selves. Xavier, Magneto, Cyclops, Wolveclops (who never acted that way before), and Juggernaut to name a few were all characters who could have behaved like their comic selves and or like the Singer versions.

[Buddha]

You know they could bring in Scarlet Witch and have her warp reality sort of like the house of m but have everyone gain there powers back instead of losing them....

[ShadowBoxing]

You know they could bring in Scarlet Witch and have her warp reality sort of like the house of m but have everyone gain there powers back instead of losing them........And then Bendis and Joey Q can write the movie. They'll set the release date for June 4 of next year, but it will be late and come out two months later. Then it will really feel like a comic book.

[D-scythe]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

Hold the phone, back up, stop!

I NEVER, not ONCE, said that X3 was the closest translation of X-Men comic book to X-Men movie in my original thread. Everyone can simply stop drinking their haterade for the film.

If you're looking for a comic book in motion, you're better off watching the 90s X-Men cartoon (which still isn't complete on DVD grrr snarl). You should never have expected the comic to be replicated page by page in the movie. Now, the original Jim Lee X-Men 1-3 (I think it was just 3) even with the new costumes and such would have been amazing, but you actually would have found it boring.

That's right boring.

Harry Potter followed the books scene for scene to a good extent and the first two where they required less editing for time were far less interesting than Lord of the Rings, which made changes while keeping to the spirit of the books.

Paper and film can almost never be exact. Mind you, I said almost.

But back to the original point of my thread, you hijackers, I never said "comic book accurate" I said it was the most "comic book" in that it had the most comic style themes of non deaths. NON DEATHS are the topic here, nothing else.

And if you're complaining about the characters in X3 being nothing like the comic counterparts, and you're accusing others of not reading a comic, have you even seen the first two? Ratner worked with the characters he had, he couldn't do a 180 and put the comic characters in when the movie versions were established.

Again, nobody is asking for a literal translation from comic book to movie. Personally, I wouldn't want to see such an X-men movie - I don't want to see the Shi'ar, etc. But I do expect the basic essence of the movie to be the same as the comic. This does not include: replacing Scott with Logan, Turning Scott into a cameo in a Phoenix story, Logan acting like Scott, preaching teamwork.

And that's just Scott and Logan.

You think Spider-man 1 and 2 were strict adaptations of the comic? Absolutely not. But I thought it was a very good comic book movie. At least Peter Parker IS Peter Parker. What the hell was Wolverine in X3?

[Fanged-Hunter]

*shrugs* I thought it had the most comic elements of the three X-films.

Scott not being in it wasn't a choice I approved of, I didn't like this.

But those who are saying Wolverine has never acted like this? I seem to recall the team leadership being between him and Storm at one time and Storm beat him in the Danger Room trial that decided the answer. And not preaching teamwork? Sure he goes on his own a lot, but I seem to remember him doing nothing but teaching self defense and a little team work to Kitty and later on to Jubilee.

Secondly in the comics, when was the last time we saw Wolverine in true berserker mode? It's been a while since he's torn through enemies with his allies being in danger simply because they were near him.

Removing Cyclops was a bad choice, and I wonder/worry if it was connected to his Superman involvement.

Regardless, if you hated the movie, I don't know what you were looking for. It seemed like it fit in well with the first two to me and balanced between the realistic view Singer started with.

But if you really hated it so much, I can only say don't see it again and don't buy the DVD.

[xwolverine2]

X-Men: The Last Stand actually the most "comic book" for me
me too

[Flame on!]

Tell me, which of the X-men were actually in character then? Ororo "My attitude makes me the leader" Monroe? Jean, who lusted openly over Logan and became a quiet servant of Magneto? Logan, who became Scott? Scott, who became a cameo? Rogue, who went against everything she stood for and took the cure? Xavier, the jerk?
Xavier is frequently a jerk in the comics. I'll never for one second claim that this flick is comic accurate, but out of the 3 X-flicks presented so far, the ol' addage of 'most comic booky' applies to the Last Stand. What you also need to remember is that 90% of X-Men canon is complete toss, so whilst deviations from comic lore is often frowned upon, I think the changes made are believable within the world set up in X-Men 1, and generally make sense.

[D-scythe]

Xavier is frequently a jerk in the comics. I'll never for one second claim that this flick is comic accurate, but out of the 3 X-flicks presented so far, the ol' addage of 'most comic booky' applies to the Last Stand. What you also need to remember is that 90% of X-Men canon is complete toss, so whilst deviations from comic lore is often frowned upon, I think the changes made are believable within the world set up in X-Men 1, and generally make sense.

Xavier is frequently a jerk? He CAN be a jerk, but since when that has been common place?

Look, I'm not going to try your change your opinion, or question your knowledge of the X-characters. But as an X-man fan I just cannot see how anyone can say X3 stays true to the characters. If Logan didn't have his powers and I didn't know that Jackman was playing him, I woulda honestly mistaken him for Scott.