This film won't make any money...

[Gamma Ray]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?

[green]

I think you should hold off and wait to see atleast a second of actual completed footage before making such statements.

[Michael Corleone]

Why? The director has done a good job on his other films. The story is great. It will be a visually strong film. It wont be a huge blockbuster but I dont think thats what they are shooting for. This is telling story with a heavy visual style. Sounds good to me.

[Spiked]

Why? The director has done a good job on his other films. The story is great. It will be a visually strong film. It wont be a huge blockbuster but I dont think thats what they are shooting for. This is telling story with a heavy visual style. Sounds good to me.

Agreed. :up: I, for one, am looking forward to 300.

[블라스]

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[herakles]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?
Hopefully UR WRONG! I want this movie to sell enuff so that Steven Pressfield's version can get a green light for production!!!!

[PWN3R]

I can see the advertising now, "Based on the grapic novel from Frank Miller, the man who brought you Sin City."

That alone will get people to the movies...

[neemer5]

Based on the hype and promotion that it's getting, and the traffic to these threads, I'm going to predict modest earnings. It's going to take a lot of phenominal reviews to expect anything different.

[CConn]

It's not the type of movie that'll made a ton of money, but I don't see why it wouldn't do strong, Sin City-esque numbers if it ends up being a good film.

[Nivek]

It'll make a nice chunck of change, given the production style, I doubt it will cost all that much to produse.

[Tad Fatherton]

is it set for a big release, or is it only going to come out in select artsy-fartsy theatres?

[kytrigger]

I'm sure it's set for a major release. It's not an independent film, it's justnot a huge 200 million dollar budget kind of film either.

[KenK]

What's the budget for this? It wouldn't have to make much to turn a profit if the budget is modest, which I bet it is.

[GoldGoblin]

Why? The director has done a good job on his other films. The story is great. It will be a visually strong film. It wont be a huge blockbuster but I dont think thats what they are shooting for. This is telling story with a heavy visual style. Sounds good to me.

^Right:up:

[GL's Light]

The budget is reportedly around $ 60 million.

[Lobster Charlie]

It'll do fine---it really all comes down to the trailers.

[Darth Elektra]

It will perform sortaof like Sin City. Modest.

[spideylover89]

I can see it possibly doing better than Sin City only because Spartan/Gladiator type films are very popular. Sin City had a few things going that didn't help it with mainstream audiences:
1) It was black and white. Even though it was absolutely gorgeous, a lot of people have a hard time with black and white and they weren't attracted to the idea.
2) Many were confused about the fact that it was 4 stories in one, not one continuous movie, so they thought there was no story at all.

300 can easily benefit from the fact that it's not multiple stories, but rather one story, so it won't be criticized for that. Also lets face it, a lot of people love war movies, especially ones set in ancient greek or roman times. With WOM spreading after comic con, I can see this film doing really well. Honestly after seeing that trailer, this film looks amazing.

[Lady Leonidas]

This movie most likely will make considerably more money than you think, by virtue of Gerard Butler's fans! Trust me on this one! ;)

The costumes and love scenes - big draw. :up:

Then add in Frank Miller's fans and the warrior types who will go for all of the testosterone... it will make money and I should think more than SIN CITY. :rolleyes:

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[herakles]

love scenes - big draw. :up:





If I wanted to see that I'd watch OZ:eek:

[Lady Leonidas]

If I wanted to see that I'd watch OZ:eek:

Why do you say that? Do you think or know that there will be homosexual aspects to the film? If you have a concern about that, check out the novel and see if Frank Miller included that aspect. He says the movie is very much like his graphic novel.


Well, I don't know if that part of some of the Spartan military culture will be a part of the film or not, but I do know that he (Gerard Butler) does have a very nice steamy heterosexual scene with his wife, the queen.


"Sparta needs sons", are his words. And his fans will be there to catch a glimpse and drool awhile! :up:


And Herakles... breath, babe... it's only a movie! :)

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[Asteroid-Man]

Why? The director has done a good job on his other films. The story is great. It will be a visually strong film. It wont be a huge blockbuster but I dont think thats what they are shooting for. This is telling story with a heavy visual style. Sounds good to me.Sure it's telling a story, a fictional story. people will watch this and believe it and say "damn Persians, you had no pitty!" But honestly I hope they have a disclaimer at the end

[herakles]

Why do you say that? Do you think or know that there will be homosexual aspects to the film? If you have a concern about that, check out the novel and see if Frank Miller included that aspect. He says the movie is very much like his graphic novel.


Well, I don't know if that part of some of the Spartan military culture will be a part of the film or not, but I do know that he (Gerard Butler) does have a very nice steamy heterosexual scene with his wife, the queen.


"Sparta needs sons", are his words. And his fans will be there to catch a glimpse and drool awhile! :up:


And Herakles... breath, babe... it's only a movie! :)

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

I was trying to be funny.
It's just that love scenes are soo unessessary to tell this story. The battle was about Love of one's country, family and culture NOT sex!! Also the 300 already had sons that is WHY they got chosen to fight!!! Also in the movie do you know if Leonidas tell his Queen Gorgo to FIND a GOOD husband before he leaves for the battle. This was to have been said by Leonidas.

[Lady Leonidas]

I was trying to be funny.
It's just that love scenes are soo unessessary to tell this story. The battle was about Love of one's country, family and culture NOT sex!! Also the 300 already had sons that is WHY they got chosen to fight!!! Also in the movie do you know if Leonidas tell his Queen Gorgo to FIND a GOOD husband before he leaves for the battle. This was to have been said by Leonidas.

Love scenes sell movie tickets! :)

No... love scenes are not necessary to tell this piece of history, but this Hollywood endeavor is undoubtedly more about selling tickets than it is about recounting a famous battle, though Frank Miller had full expectation that the accuracy aspect of this story stay true.

Yes, I know about having to have sired a son(s) in order to be part of the 300 unit, but I think what King Leonidas realized (and was saying with that statemen) is that Sparta was going to need as many future sons has she could conceive. Xerxes and the Persians were not going away ay time soon. And like after any war... a nation must repopulate.

As for the statement to his queen regarding finding a good husband... I am not sure. But... it would make perfect sense, he never expected that he or his 300 would return.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[spideylover89]

No... love scenes are not necessary to tell this piece of history, but this Hollywood endeavor is undoubtedly more about selling tickets than it is about recounting a famous battle, though Frank Miller had full expectation that the accuracy aspect of this story stay true.

Sex isn't just a Hollywood thing, it's a Frank Miller thing. Like all of his stories you can expect 3 things:
1) Violence
2) Sex
3) and one badass story

The film is being adapted like Sin City, so basically what's on the page is in the movie. Also Frank's retelling of this story isn't 100% true either. He took many creative liberties, but stayed true to the essential core of each battle. As for the previous comment about homosexuality in the film, though historically accurate Miller chose to exclude that detail from the books. In his words, "this is fiction after all."

[WTFwuzThT]

This movie will kick major amounts of ass. Did someone say sleeper?

[Octoberist]

yeah, it could be a sleeper hit that will hit everyone in the b...iceps..

[hitpehoaos]

i dont know much about this movie but i looks great i will definately go see it

[khoapham]

i think globally it'll do good. It's not gonna make "pirate of caribean" money, and the filmakers and studio's know it.

But it its however, another graphic novel FAITHFULLY adapted to the big screen which is all that should matter. Everyone who worked on the film has already gotten paid, so its up to us as filmgoers to fill in the seats.

I've seen the footage at comiccon and personally i cant wait! Visually the movie looked a lot better than Sin City.

Sin City was rad, but lets face it, Robert Rodriguez is a "meh" director, all his other movies were only OK. The only reason Once Upon A Time in Mexico was tollerable is because of Johnny Depp.

Appearently, the studio's were so impressed with 300 they gave Snyder a shot at Watchmen, which is a huge project.

i have faith in 300, i know its a little early to say that but from what we have seen, how can we doubt this movie?

[Lady Leonidas]

i think globally it'll do good. It's not gonna make "pirate of caribean" money, and the filmakers and studio's know it.

But it its however, another graphic novel FAITHFULLY adapted to the big screen which is all that should matter. Everyone who worked on the film has already gotten paid, so its up to us as filmgoers to fill in the seats.


You are correct about that!

And I believe between Gerard Butler's fans (who are majorly responsible for bringing the film Beowulf and Grendel to limited U.S. release by filling the seats in Canada) will be there, s will Frank Miller's loyal fans, and then others.

I am anxious to see just how well it will do!

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[Darth Elektra]

I think between 50 and 80million.

[khoapham]

i havent seen Beowulf and Grendel, how is it?

[Lady Leonidas]

i havent seen Beowulf and Grendel, how is it?

:xmen: I went to Chicago to see Beowulf and Grendel. I thought it was a very good movie. Below is a review I posted at the Beowulf and Grendel Website and at IBDM:

"The film is very very good... At first I thought it might be a bit too gory for me, but it was not as gory as I thought it would be. However, the two gory parts were very gory. I cringed more than a little and I had to cover my eyes during those times.

Of course, I cried over Grendel, so superbly played by Ingvar Eggert Sigurosson, who gave the troll a slight human touch. My heart truly went out to him! I am such a waterfall when it comes to stories and things like this.

I know I was also pushed to tears by Gerard Butler's performance as Beowulf. His facial expressions, body language, and tone of voice told it all when he felt the pain and guilt of his role in what happened to Grendel. He is so good at showing emotions!! Excellent choice in an actor to play this role, as well!!!

The scenery was beautiful! Sturla's vision of the people was pretty much on the spot, I thought... at least in the opinion of this cultural historian. And I always look for that in today's films. Some of the linguistic terms used might have been more from the modern era... but one can work around that.

Overall, I think this is a very intriguing film that I would recommend everyone see if you can... especially on the big screen.

I would also like to say "cheers" to the many people who worked so hard to get BEOWULF AND GRENDEL distributed in the United States! And to Sturla, Gerry, the other cast members and crew for "hanging-in there" until completion of the film, despite the difficulities and hardships they had to face in order to film on location.

Ya... I am going to order the DVD. I really did like this one!

Below is another review from someone who saw Beowulf and Grendel in Los Angeles.

" loved it all!!!!!!
Iceland took my breath away... just beautiful....
Every single person in the film did a great job...
the entire cast and team and crew can all take a bow.....
This was a great telling of an old tale dripping with humor...
All in all Bewoulf and Grendel is a first class film, that deserves to be seen... For me I saw a movie that was concieved from inspriation and dreams. and born with passion... we have been give a rare and beautiful thing
in Beowulf and Grendel..... what a great production....
Kudos to all involved !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Canadian DVD has already been released. The U.S. DVD will be released on September 26th.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[블라스]

:xmen: I went to Chicago to see Beowulf and Grendel. I thought it was a very good movie. Below is a review I posted at the Beowulf and Grendel Website and at IBDM:

"The film is very very good... At first I thought it might be a bit too gory for me, but it was not as gory as I thought it would be. However, the two gory parts were very gory. I cringed more than a little and I had to cover my eyes during those times.

Of course, I cried over Grendel, so superbly played by Ingvar Eggert Sigurosson, who gave the troll a slight human touch. My heart truly went out to him! I am such a waterfall when it comes to stories and things like this.

I know I was also pushed to tears by Gerard Butler's performance as Beowulf. His facial expressions, body language, and tone of voice told it all when he felt the pain and guilt of his role in what happened to Grendel. He is so good at showing emotions!! Excellent choice in an actor to play this role, as well!!!

The scenery was beautiful! Sturla's vision of the people was pretty much on the spot, I thought... at least in the opinion of this cultural historian. And I always look for that in today's films. Some of the linguistic terms used might have been more from the modern era... but one can work around that.

Overall, I think this is a very intriguing film that I would recommend everyone see if you can... especially on the big screen.

I would also like to say "cheers" to the many people who worked so hard to get BEOWULF AND GRENDEL distributed in the United States! And to Sturla, Gerry, the other cast members and crew for "hanging-in there" until completion of the film, despite the difficulities and hardships they had to face in order to film on location.

Ya... I am going to order the DVD. I really did like this one!

Below is another review from someone who saw Beowulf and Grendel in Los Angeles.

" loved it all!!!!!!
Iceland took my breath away... just beautiful....
Every single person in the film did a great job...
the entire cast and team and crew can all take a bow.....
This was a great telling of an old tale dripping with humor...
All in all Bewoulf and Grendel is a first class film, that deserves to be seen... For me I saw a movie that was concieved from inspriation and dreams. and born with passion... we have been give a rare and beautiful thing
in Beowulf and Grendel..... what a great production....
Kudos to all involved !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Canadian DVD has already been released. The U.S. DVD will be released on September 26th.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

LOL, that was you???
I saw your review at the IMDB and loved it cause you said it was gory! :D
Anyways, I can't wait to buy Beowulf and Grendel on DVD....I doubt Mexico will get a theatrical release.

[Hunter Rider]

I think you should hold off and wait to see atleast a second of actual completed footage before making such statements.

Exactly:up:I don't see it making massive numbers but it has potential to be a solid hit IMO

[kytrigger]

:xmen: I went to Chicago to see Beowulf and Grendel.

Did you see it at the Landmark Century Theater? It's one of the few theaters in Chicago that plays just independent films. I ask, not to be creepy, but because I live about a block from that mall/theater.

[antmanx68]

I wanted to see Grendel as a real monster :(

[Lady Leonidas]

LOL, that was you???
I saw your review at the IMDB and loved it cause you said it was gory! :D
Anyways, I can't wait to buy Beowulf and Grendel on DVD....I doubt Mexico will get a theatrical release.

LOL... they didn't use the tagline: "HEADS WILL ROLL" for nothing! :rolleyes: :)

I doubt if it will go anywhere else after it leaves the United States. It was like pulling dinosaurs' teeth to get it here. Gerard Butler's fans crossed the Canadian border, in droves, to see the film and to try to convince a distributer that it should be shown in the United States.

And then it was scheduled for release in only a few cities: Seattle (WA), Los Angeles (CA), Chicago (IL), New York (NY), Sarasota (FL) and somewhere in the state of Montana. It will also open in Boston (MA) this weekend (8-4-06 and should play in Austin (TX) in September 9th, I believe.

Did you see it at the Landmark Century Theater? It's one of the few theaters in Chicago that plays just independent films. I ask, not to be creepy, but because I live about a block from that mall/theater.

Yes... I saw it at the Landmark Century Theater in Chicago!!! :)

Did you ever get a chance to see it? :confused:

The Canadian DVD has been released and the U.S. DVD release is scheduled for September 26th.

Is Mexico in the same DVD region as Canada and the US? Or do you have a univeral DVD player? :confused:

Hope you get to see it at some point!

Lady Leonida :xmen:

[블라스]

Yeah, well....we have both Region 1 and 4, so I'll be able to buy it :up:

[khoapham]

thanks for posting your review Lady Leonidas. i'm definitely gonna check it out. hopefully there's a theater thats playing, but if not i dont have any problem buying it on dvd when it comes out.

[kytrigger]

Yes... I saw it at the Landmark Century Theater in Chicago!!! :)

Did you ever get a chance to see it? :confused:

The Canadian DVD has been released and the U.S. DVD release is scheduled for September 26th.

Is Mexico in the same DVD region as Canada and the US? Or do you have a univeral DVD player? :confused:

Hope you get to see it at some point!

Lady Leonida :xmen:

Unfortunately I didn't. I saw the trailer for it, and didn't really like it. I just felt the trailer was very poorly constructed. But once it was at the theater, some of my friends saw it and told me it was really good, so I decided to see it anyway. Unfortunately, it was only at teh Landmark for like aweek, and by the time I went, it was gone.

Oh well, I'll just have to plan on seeing it on DVD.

[Lady Leonidas]

Unfortunately I didn't. I saw the trailer for it, and didn't really like it. I just felt the trailer was very poorly constructed. But once it was at the theater, some of my friends saw it and told me it was really good, so I decided to see it anyway. Unfortunately, it was only at teh Landmark for like aweek, and by the time I went, it was gone.

Oh well, I'll just have to plan on seeing it on DVD.

I never had a chance to see the trailer, so I can't comment on how much it did or didn't reflect the film itself.

It stayed at the Landmark for two weeks (originally only slated for one). I would have liked seeing on the big screen a second time, but distance from Chicago wouldn't allow.

Hope you get to see it on the DVD! If you do, you will have to let us know if you like it.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[kytrigger]

I never had a chance to see the trailer, so I can't comment on how much it did or didn't reflect the film itself.

It stayed at the Landmark for two weeks (originally only slated for one). I would have liked seeing on the big screen a second time, but distance from Chicago wouldn't allow.

Hope you get to see it on the DVD! If you do, you will have to let us know if you like it.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

Definately..I know either I will, or my roommate will since he gets every dvd available (I think his current collection is around 700 or so). Either way I'm definately going to see it since I have heard only good things for those who saw it.

[spideylover89]

LOL... they didn't use the tagline: "HEADS WILL ROLL" for nothing! :rolleyes: :)

Dude they ripped off Sleepy Hollow! :mad:

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/MoviePics/s/sleepyhollow.jpg

[Cinemaman]

I think it will make about $45-55m domesticly and $30-40m in overseas.

[WTFwuzThT]

If they market this right it'll make tons of money. This movie is going to rape and pillage.

[Mr. Socko]

People also said Sin City wouldn't make any money.

[matrix_ghost]

Based on the facts , one would say 300 won't make money.

For starters , it's Rated R and there is a reason why many studios are going for the PG rating. And not only id this movie rated R , it's an HARD R for sex and violence. Meaning that overseas countries will also give this movie an rating equivalent to an R rating.
So you basically limit you're BO there.

Then there is also the Swords and Sandals epic which after Gladitor got a huge revival but the movies that followed sadly really didn't deliver IMO.
Troy sucked balls with the only saving graces from Peter O 'Toole and Eric Bana ( and even he got killed midway). Kingdom Of heaven ...blegh.
KIng Arthur was reduced to a PG and even then it sucked on all fronts. Thank god the main actors still got good movies to play in ( Clive Owen is a rising star , Ioan plays Mr Fantastic , Keira's got POTC ...heck even stellan got POTC).
So yeah , despite good performances , the only good sword and sandal movie was Gladiator.

However , i think that 300 will be a success. Everything that's coming from this movie shows that it's gonna be a good story with honor ( which believe me is something that alot of people really like in these type of movies) , good proper gory violence ( you already have you're male audience there with popcorn and drinks !) and some good ol' nudity ( seal of approval for lots of males :p ).
I don't see this movie making 200 million domestic , but i do see this movie at least breaking even . And worldwide it will perform well.
My predic : 70 million going up to 100 million domestic with 300 million worldwide.

[coco]

I don't know about this one, it could go either way.

R rating will certainly limit its BO, but Sin City did fine. Although the budget for this is bigger so if this makes $70million it won't be as much of a sucess as Sin City was with the same figure. But that certainly wouldn't be bad either.

It's got some good reviews already and if that continues it could have a strong word of mouth. Frank Miller's reputation could help, but I think if people go into this expecting a Greek version of Sin City then they'll be disappointed, so that works both ways.

The ancient Greek setting might put people off, especially after such films as Alexander and Troy didn't exactly set the world on fire demanding more from that civilisation, although this looks like a very different film from those of course.

I've seen the trailer and while I thought it was good, I'm not sure it would make anyone who wasn't already interested in the type of film/genre want to go and see it but they'll probably have a different one for the official teaser/theatrical near the time I guess.

Basically I think this one is going to be hard to predict. ;) :rolleyes:

[Mr. Socko]

Based on the facts , one would say 300 won't make money.

For starters , it's Rated R and there is a reason why many studios are going for the PG rating. And not only id this movie rated R , it's an HARD R for sex and violence. Meaning that overseas countries will also give this movie an rating equivalent to an R rating.
So you basically limit you're BO there.

Then there is also the Swords and Sandals epic which after Gladitor got a huge revival but the movies that followed sadly really didn't deliver IMO.
Troy sucked balls with the only saving graces from Peter O 'Toole and Eric Bana ( and even he got killed midway). Kingdom Of heaven ...blegh.
KIng Arthur was reduced to a PG and even then it sucked on all fronts. Thank god the main actors still got good movies to play in ( Clive Owen is a rising star , Ioan plays Mr Fantastic , Keira's got POTC ...heck even stellan got POTC).
So yeah , despite good performances , the only good sword and sandal movie was Gladiator.

However , i think that 300 will be a success. Everything that's coming from this movie shows that it's gonna be a good story with honor ( which believe me is something that alot of people really like in these type of movies) , good proper gory violence ( you already have you're male audience there with popcorn and drinks !) and some good ol' nudity ( seal of approval for lots of males :p ).
I don't see this movie making 200 million domestic , but i do see this movie at least breaking even . And worldwide it will perform well.
My predic : 70 million going up to 100 million domestic with 300 million worldwide.

300M worldwide? Sin City only did about half that. I seriously doubt it'll even go past 200M.

I'm going to predict 120M at the most.

Not to mention, Sin City had a way bigger fan base then 300 does.

[matrix_ghost]

Yes but you're looking at it from a fans point of view , or someone who has read the book.

You have to look at it this from the general audience POV and specifically how similar movies have performed worldwide. Sin City and 300 are waaayyy different genre's .
Europe especially really seems to be a good market for the sword and sandal movies.
In 2000 we had Gladiator which started the trend . Domestic gross 181 mil and foreign 269 mil.
2004 had Troy. Domestic gross 133 million and foreign a whopping 364 million.
Even King arhur which also was released in 2004 performed okay overseas.
list.Domestic gross just 51 million but overseas 151 million. Just like troy , almost tripling it's domestic BO.
I'll go even further and add Kingdom of Heaven to that list .
DOmestic gross 47 million with a foreign BO of 164 million.


Try to look at this in those terms and you'll see that this movie does have a chance of hitting the 300 million mark. Most people really have no idea that this is based on a book ( i know i didn't till it was announced that they were making this movie) .
HOWEVER , given the fact that it's a HARD R rating that they're going for , which was the case of gladiator also , that might limit the box office quite a bit. If i remember correctly all the movies i mentioned above had PG type of ratings with the exception of Troy. I'm not sure about that. It's been a while since Troy was released in Europe so i'm afraid i can't remember what rating in got here in Holland.
Still i could see it pulling the same numbers that gladiator did. It the movie is good , the cash will come :)

[coco]

Troy is a different Kettle of fish though I think. Yes sword and sandal movies do tend to do well in Europe, possibly because people are generally more interested in the history? But it had more famous actors in it, including Brad Pitt, which I think helped a bit and was promoted as the Summer's biggest blockbuster, which they won't do with with this as much.

Taking another Greek history film "Alexander" again you're right it did way better overeas managing $133 foreign but only $34 domestic. I don't know really which one it will mirror more, I hope its Troy but I just don't think it will apeal to as wide an audience as all that.

Its a whole different boardgame since Gladiator though. That six years ago was the first historical epic in a long time and really set the bar high in terms of action and story (historically, well it got some names right....... ;) ) The gult of other movies since then seems to have given the movie going public "historical epic fatigue" with most of the more recent films doing anything like as well at the BO. Partly if you have a good film people will come, but not of course excusively. The ancient setting will turn some people off, as will the fact that its a hard "R" and a very violent film.

I still think that we're looking at a Sin City/V for Vendetta type gross, two very different genres, both R rated graphic novels with a slightly select demographic, released in the same time frame generating similar BO domestically, not so much foreign. I think this movie will do better overseas than both but not in the region of $300 million.

I wonder how they are going to market this: as an historical epic that happens to be based on a graphic novel or Visa Versa? From the comic con trailer it seems the former, but the general public might get a different slant.

[Colossus24]

generating similar BO
I couldn't help it, I laughed at this part.

[nai darwesh]

hey whats up
i think this movie will make alooooot of money

[WTFwuzThT]

This movie is going to generate a lot of Box Office. There's already a lot of buzz building over this thing.

[Gamma Ray]

I'm not really sure why I made this thread. Maybe I was intoxicated. :(

[kytrigger]

I'm not really sure why I made this thread. Maybe I was intoxicated. :(

Personally, I think that's the only proper way to make a thread...

[xwolverine2]

who cares if it doesnt make money............its not like there making a sequel...lol

[matrix_ghost]

Troy is a different Kettle of fish though I think. Yes sword and sandal movies do tend to do well in Europe, possibly because people are generally more interested in the history? But it had more famous actors in it, including Brad Pitt, which I think helped a bit and was promoted as the Summer's biggest blockbuster, which they won't do with with this as much.

Taking another Greek history film "Alexander" again you're right it did way better overeas managing $133 foreign but only $34 domestic. I don't know really which one it will mirror more, I hope its Troy but I just don't think it will apeal to as wide an audience as all that.

Its a whole different boardgame since Gladiator though. That six years ago was the first historical epic in a long time and really set the bar high in terms of action and story (historically, well it got some names right....... ;) ) The gult of other movies since then seems to have given the movie going public "historical epic fatigue" with most of the more recent films doing anything like as well at the BO. Partly if you have a good film people will come, but not of course excusively. The ancient setting will turn some people off, as will the fact that its a hard "R" and a very violent film.

I still think that we're looking at a Sin City/V for Vendetta type gross, two very different genres, both R rated graphic novels with a slightly select demographic, released in the same time frame generating similar BO domestically, not so much foreign. I think this movie will do better overseas than both but not in the region of $300 million.

I wonder how they are going to market this: as an historical epic that happens to be based on a graphic novel or Visa Versa? From the comic con trailer it seems the former, but the general public might get a different slant.


They are going to market it as a historical epic that's based on the book. Most audience members really don't care if it's based on the book or whatever. If you can sell them thru the visuals , you've got their interest. And that's exactly what this movie is aiming for.


And btw wolverine , i do care that this movie makes money.
Even tough it's not getting a sequel , there are other reasons why movies need to make money.
Money means opening doors . In this case opening doors for riskier projects as well as showing that having the R rating isn't necessarely a bad thing. If you have a good movie , the audience will come . That's why this movie needs to make money. I'm not wanting a 400 million dollar dometic gross for this flick , even tough that would be amazing. All i want is this flick to make such a profit that it shows that these movies can be made again and again. One of the sad things of Constantine , is despite the fact that it got made and upon it's release made a profit , WB is still a bit iffy on making a sequel. And many non-HellBlazer fans as well as the general audience to want another Constantine movie.

In the end movies make money and that money is used to make other movies. Higher grossing movies mean more money and more money means means risky projects can be released. A 100 million dollar Watchmen movie can be released even tough there is a high possibility that despite it being aawesome flick it'll not make it's budget back.

[kytrigger]

who cares if it doesnt make money............its not like there making a sequel...lol

that's actaully a pretty good point. I guess you could argue that if it makes money, it might help greenlight other small R-rated comic book films.

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah but I can't help but believe that movies like Troy and Alexander did so good was because of the star power.

[SuGarRush]

See I think this desire for the Hard R rating will really really KILL its BO draw.
And not so much for the violence, but for the insistence of full nudity and sex.
Maybe not so much up North, but I know down South parents are much more loathe to allow their kids to see a movie with gratuitous sex than gratuitous violence. A comparison would be Gladiator. I was in high school at the time, not yet 17 so I had to have my dad go with me and my buddy to see it.
All three of us loved it, Dad ended up going back with my little brother to go see it again.
A LOT of families I know did that. But had they added in some sex, a little of that full frontal nudity that is apparently so desired? Whammo, I know I wouldn't have gone to see it, nor would about 90% of my friends at the time.
Primo movie goers are your youngteens, these are the kids that have nothing to do but go to a movie on a friday night and parents aren't gonna let them go see one like that. At least not down here in the numbers it needs.

(and before you guys say anything, despite what you think, not every child will lie to their parents and sneak into a movie. Even if they wanted to, most of the theaters in my area are checking tickets and ID's at the entrance to the theater itself now, to prevent kids from sneaking in.)

[Gamma Ray]

Personally, I think that's the only proper way to make a thread...


Here here!

[marcvader]

As long as the movie is well written, well acted, and end of your seat entertaining, it doesn't matter how much gore and nudity it contains. This movie has the looks of being an underdog hit. I could never have my fill of sword and sandal movies.

[Lady Leonidas]

See I think this desire for the Hard R rating will really really KILL its BO draw.
And not so much for the violence, but for the insistence of full nudity and sex.
Maybe not so much up North, but I know down South parents are much more loathe to allow their kids to see a movie with gratuitous sex than gratuitous violence.

This is true up north, as well. And I for one find this situation very interestng...

Even if they wanted to, most of the theaters in my area are checking tickets and ID's at the entrance to the theater itself now, to prevent kids from sneaking in.)

This is also very true!!

Though it is a voluntary move on the part of the cinemas... the cinemas can get "bad press" if they don't try to comply with this.

Lady Leonidas :xmen:

[matrix_ghost]

Funny how we all were waay off with our predictions huh :cwink: :woot: :oldrazz:

[Nivek]

It'll make a nice chunck of change, given the production style, I doubt it will cost all that much to produse.


Heh-heh-ha!! :yay:

[Diamondhead]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?you are way out of your mind

[ESchorcho]

This thread was really dumb from the start. Of course this movie was going to make money. It has the Frank Miller name attached to it, basically making it a follow-up to Sin City. Everyone that I know who have seen this movie have absolutely loved it.

I don't get why people complain about this movie.

[tzarinna]

Great read.

[matrix_ghost]

This thread was really dumb from the start. Of course this movie was going to make money. It has the Frank Miller name attached to it, basically making it a follow-up to Sin City. Everyone that I know who have seen this movie have absolutely loved it.

I don't get why people complain about this movie.

I disagree. It was a pretty good thread to start and discuss the BO performance of 300.
Nobody on earth , not even WB had expected this movie to perform this good. Heck i had predicted that 300 would probably hit Vendetta numbers and gross around 70 million domestic. Instead 300 opened with a 70 million weekend.

IMO the strenght of 300 lies with it's visuals and that's what draws the crowd. Not the name of Frank miller nor Sin City. The majority of people have never heard of Frank Miller and know very little of SIn City ( it seems to me that only geeks know of SIn City).
Yet every person out there wanted to see this flick. The trailer is what sold them.

[tzarinna]

and MySpace. :o

[Freedom77]

I'd love to see the face the topic creator now!!

hope he feels like an idiot for posting such a stupid topic.
It wasn't really hard to predict this movie WOULD make plenty of money.

[ang_hulk]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?

I think you spoke to soon.

[weezerspider]

Yeah, Its only the best March opening ever. And the 3rd best R opening ever. But yeah, it didn't make THAT much money.

[kytrigger]

I'd love to see the face the topic creator now!!

hope he feels like an idiot for posting such a stupid topic.
It wasn't really hard to predict this movie WOULD make plenty of money.

I think you spoke to soon.

Yeah, Its only the best March opening ever. And the 3rd best R opening ever. But yeah, it didn't make THAT much money.
You all do know that he already stated it was a stupid thread last September right?

[matrix_ghost]

and MySpace. :o

Touché :o

[matrix_ghost]

and MySpace. :o

Touché :o

[Eternalzero]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?

rofl...


hahahaha.....

[Zombie_samurai]

Yeah, Its only the best March opening ever. And the 3rd best R opening ever. But yeah, it didn't make THAT much money.

What were the first two?

[Darth Elektra]

What were the first two?

Passion of the Christ and Matrix Reloaded.

[Morganathered]

Seriously. I doubt this will make that much money. What do you think?

:whatever: According the latest gross of the film 300, it's total gross now is:
Theatrical Performance
Total US Gross: $208,323,517
International Gross: $230,000,000
Worldwide Gross: $438,323,517


300 opened as the box office winner for several weekends straight in a row with it's premiere on March 9! It is still in the theatre's; however, Amazon is taking preorders now for it's release on DVD as of July 31, 2007. Make way for the King "Gerard Butler" aka Leonidas! He not only rules! He rocks! :word: :word:


Does this answer your question, dude? :oldrazz:


Cheerios! Janet "the Other Scot :word:

[Zombie_samurai]

I thought it made more money than that

[DangerousInc.]

Yeah 300 was a flop! :whatever: