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Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 11:40 AM
Who's Next?
Okay, we hate to think about it, but one day Christopher Nolan is going to quit doing Batman. When that day comes, Who should take over? By all accounts this will probably happen after BB3. Unless you want this beautiful franchise to end with only three movies, there should be another director who actually knows what he's doing in que so Bale et al don't quit along with Nolan.

Here's my 2 cents (or should I say 5 cents?) on the matter. My top five:

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Joss Whedon
Joss Whedon reportedly once pitched a Batman movie to WB before Nolan took over. That tells me he has a vision, which is really important for a Batman film. We need somebody wiith a vision. I can't vouch for the fact that all these directors have a vision for Batman, with Whedon it seems likely. He's also experienced in comics (Writing and directing Wonder Woman as well as has written books like Fray and Astonishing X-Men) And he's very good at fleshing out characters and giving them a voice. I've always felt that superhero villains need a very distinctive voice and motivation. Otherwise they may slip into cliches.
POSSIBLE DRAWBACKS: Whedon may be a little too comedically oriented for Batman. I've never felt that Batman should be completely devoid of humor, but it should be a wee more serious that Whedon usually is. That doesn't mean he can't do it, but it's something to look out for.

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Ridley Scott
Ridley Scott is a visionary if ever there was one. Having brought to life the raw brutal action of Gladiator and the dripping urban vision of Blade Runner, he's basically ideal for Batman. Couple the machinistic dark metropolis with the action we know he's capable of, and the mystery aspect of Matchstick Men and you've got a perfect Batman film.
POSSIBLE DRAWBACKS: Scott may be too high profile for this job. I'm not sure if he'd want to take over a franchise second hand. Hopefully, though, Nolan will be steady until he wants out and the critical acclaim will make the job appeal to the likes of Mr. Scott.

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William Friedkin
William Friedkin directed both The Exorcist and The French Connection Neither of these movies exactly scream Batman, but they do both connect on this brutal, visceral level that Batman needs. Both movies gave me this raw painful milieu that would work very well for creating a Gotham City that very convincingly needs a savior.
POSSIBLE DRAWBACKS: I've never seen Friedkin do any action really. There's a great car chase in French Connection but there's nothing that's really on the level of Batman.

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Alex Proyas
Both Dark City and The Crow presnt the right kind of environment for Batman. He's basically done Gotham twice already via these two films. We've seen Proyas do raw, back-alley action. He's no stranger to comics (The Crow was adapted from one) He's also worked with a big budget ([/i]I, Robot[/i]) and that movie was very successful. I haven't seen it, so I can't exactly make a judgement, but I've heard pretty good things about it.
POSSIBLE DRAWBACKS: Like I said, I haven't seen I, Robot but from the trailers for that film as well as seeing Dark City, it seems like Proyas might get a little too CG-happy when he's got the money to use it. I'm fine with CG in my Batman films, but I don't want it over-used or obvious.

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J.J. Abrams
Abrams is my first choice. He'd great at making you really feel the action and what the characters are going through. Watch M:I3 if you don't belive me. This movie isn't Batman, but it really shows that Abrams has what it takes to do Batman. He's also terrific and making really imposing and memerable villains, which is important for a rogues gallery like the one we're working with. My favorite aspect about Abrams, though, is that he's very good at taking a world that seems completely grounded in reality and putting a supernatural or mysterious spin on it. This is exactly what the Batman franchise is going to need once Nolan leaves. Nolan's "realistic" world needs to stay, but it needs to get that twinge of weirdness that will allow villains like Bane, Poison Ivy and Mr. Freeze to be done correctly without camp and with being "too realistic."
POTENTIAL DRAWBACKS: Abrams has a way of starting a project out strong and finishing it off ...well... less strong. I get the feeling he's doing too many things at once, and once he gets them off and running (I'm talking about his TV shows, here) he let's his underlings take over and there isn't as much kick to it.

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 11:49 AM
If we come to that bridge then I talk about it, plus we haven't seen BB2 or BB3.

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 11:50 AM
I figured if we could have a "who should play Batman after Bale" thread, then this was okay

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 11:51 AM
Sure it's okay but that's how I feel at the moment.

Mee
05-30-2006, 11:52 AM
Well it should (and probably will) stop at 3. Then it will be 10+ years before we get a new Batman franchise and it'll have some director that as of now, we have never heard of.

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 11:54 AM
I think it would be a shame to stop at three.

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 11:58 AM
If you want a answer from me I can say that David Fincher would be great to direct a Batman movie.

I agree Ronny, I like to see Nolan batman films more than three if he hires good screenwriter etc.. then why not?

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 12:06 PM
Exactly. Why risk some other version of it when we have a good one going now? I understand starting over, but only when you need to.

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 12:18 PM
Nolan's batman franchise should carry on even if the franchise hires new director, I do not want to see new franchise unless it's really needed.

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 12:19 PM
and if the new director Fs it up, THEN we start over again.

or we pull a Singer and have a "vague backstory"

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 12:30 PM
We could get the Singer kind of a thing but WB cares about Batman more then Superman I mean how they were careful of Begins making.

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 12:32 PM
True

But it's like Blade. They shouldn't start over, they should make another part 3.

PWN3R
05-30-2006, 12:35 PM
Why stop at 3? FOX ruined the X-Men franchise when trying to do the epic thrid conclusion, and now Avi Arad said still no X4. :down


The new Batman franchise has huge potential, stopping at 3 wouldn't make sense.

Darkred
05-30-2006, 12:52 PM
I think they should make 4 or 5 movies. Then wait ten years and do a DKR style movie with an older bale. Thats my dream anyway...........

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 12:59 PM
If you want a answer from me I can say that David Fincher would be great to direct a Batman movie.

I agree Ronny, I like to see Nolan batman films more than three if he hires good screenwriter etc.. then why not?
*looks up David Fincher*

Not bad, I guess. I haven't seen many of his films.

Two-Face
05-30-2006, 01:03 PM
I suggest Seven stars Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt and was released in 1997 I think.


EDIT: it also has Kevin Spacey (Lex Luthor)

Ronny Shade
05-30-2006, 01:09 PM
I know it. I just haven't seen it yet.

Mee
05-30-2006, 02:07 PM
I think it would be a shame to stop at three.
It would be a shame for some Joel Shumacher clone to come along and ruin the franchise. "All good things must come to an end." Stop after a great trilogy.:up:


note- This is not to say I wouldn't love more movies, but it's unlikely anything after 3 would have all the same people involved and turn out as good.

darwinwins
05-30-2006, 06:57 PM
i'll never understand the dumb obsession with "trilogy."

nolan's roll'n
05-30-2006, 08:30 PM
I want Peter Jackson to direct after Nolan leaves, though I think they should quit making Bat-Films after BB 3. I don't think anyone is going to make a better Bat-Film than Chris Nolan's trilogy (BB1, 2, 3). Maybe Jonathan Nolan can direct the next BB trilogy once Nolan leaves. He's a screenwriter, but who knows maybe he can do both. David Fonch would be a good choice as well. Joss Whedon wouldn't be a bad choice. I agree BB 3 might be the last Bat-Film we'll see in theaters.

Darth Nata
05-31-2006, 12:09 AM
This isnt a list of people I would like to see take over after Nolan but just a hypothetical list of some differant Batman films I would love to see.

Directed by Sam Raimi. Written by Jeph Loeb and Paul Dini

Directed by Tim Burton. Written by Frank Miller

Written and Directed by Michael Mann

Directed by David Fincher. Written by Andrew Kevin Walker

Katsuro
05-31-2006, 06:01 AM
i'll never understand the dumb obsession with "trilogy."

Thank you. I feel the same way. People always go on and on about "trilogies". I just dont get it. What's so special about 3 that everyone always seems to want to stop there? I guess it has to do with the fact that there's practically never been a good fourth movie, but who cares? Let's let Batman be the first to get a GREAT fourth movie!! Besides, the last Batman franchise got four movies, so how can we allow this one to acheive less?

Stopping at 3 would be so boring, I want to keep going. This is Batman, there are so many great stories to tell that we couldn't just do in 2 more films. At the end of the third film Batman will still be relativley new. Gordon will have just barely been made Commissioner, most of his villains just barely created, and he wont even have his first sidekick yet. Why stop making movies at the beginning, where we'll never get a chance to see a veteran Batman? I want to see him take on Bane, and I'd like Ra's al Ghul to return crazier than ever (along with his daughter Talia).

Ronny Shade
05-31-2006, 07:42 AM
Kats, you're a man after my own heart.



...but not like that.

Ronny Shade
06-22-2006, 09:41 AM
bump

kytrigger
06-22-2006, 11:21 AM
As much as I love Joss Whedon, I don't really want him to direct a Batman film. Mainly just for the reasons Ronny said in his first post. I think he is much better at writing in a comedic fashion that doesn't fit Nolan's Batman (or any other version of Batman that I would care to see).

Plus if he works the next bat films after Nolan it would give him less of a chance to direct the next X-Men films taht will hopefully be coming out right around that time. At least that's my dream anyway...

The Chairman
06-22-2006, 11:37 AM
I'd like to see Mel Brooks take over.

Seriously, I really hope if we ever come to this bridge, Ridley Scott takes over. Ronny pretty much laid out to us that Scott's vision is perfect for Batman. He's one of the best men behind the cameras working today (his post - Gladiator work can be forgiven since his stuff before that is amazing), and can probably bring something new to the table.

nite-owl
06-22-2006, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't mind Proyas taking over, hell I wouldn't Proyas making another movie again.

Ronny Shade
06-22-2006, 03:00 PM
Hey my bump actually worked. Thanks for the input guys. keep it comin'

mike blub
06-23-2006, 01:19 AM
my top five:

1. joe carnahan (narc)
2. david fincher (seven, fight club)
3. guillermo del toro (hellboy, blade 2, the devil's backbone)
4. alexandre aja (hills have eyes, high tension)
5. michael mann (heat, collateral)

saint sinner x
07-05-2006, 03:43 AM
My top 5movie directors to take over the batman film franchise if Nolan decides to stop after part 3 would be:

Kurt Wimmer:

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He directed Equilibrium which is a fantastic film that surpassess the matrix you guys have to check it out it was awesomely bad ass. He'll probably make batman do some bat-katas now that would be crazy he's good at directing action and substance he's the perfect man that can continue with the tone of batman begins and bless it with superb action and substance.

James Cameron:

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He directed the first 2 terminator films and he directed titanic he also created dark angel. Now i don't know what he's been up to lately but ideally he's pretty good with the physics and keeping the realistic tone of the film I mean terminator 2 judgement day had perfect realistic action he's a pretty good candidate Mr. Cameron.

Doug Liman:

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He directed The bourne identity and the bourne supremacy he also directed mr and mrs. smith Now this would be very interesting because the bourne identity had some sick ass fighting in it but for the fighting and the darkness I think he can make it epic.

Peter Jackson:

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Well I guess we all know which films he directed oh what the hell just in case if some of you don't know he directed The lord of the rings series and king kong etc... Now he would be great for doing a batman film I guess with the right budget he can get creative within the story and action he's a pretty danm good director in my eyes.

John McTiernan:

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He directed predator 1 he also directed die hard with a veangence and he directed the 13th warrior. I would like to see him do batman there's just something about his films that makes me wonder how well he would handle a batman film. Die hard with a veangence had pretty nice action it's one of my favorite action movies of all time I think he can pull off a batman film pretty nicely.

So, those would be my top5 film directors if nolan ever decides to stop making more batman films. Pretty bad ass eh? What do you guys think of my choices?

Katsuro
07-05-2006, 08:26 AM
Peter Jackson:

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Well I guess we all know which films he directed oh what the hell just in case if some of you don't know he directed The lord of the rings series and king kong etc... Now he would be great for doing a batman film I guess with the right budget he can get creative within the story and action he's a pretty danm good director in my eyes.


That's Peter Jackson!?! Wow, that picture must be old, he looks... not fat.

Two-Face
07-05-2006, 08:37 AM
No that's new pic, he REALLY did stole a weight

Or did he?

ghost113
07-05-2006, 03:57 PM
Peter jackson is a great director but not a batman movie, his stories seem like epics and batmans' stories are great but they aren't epic. Now if he had directed Superman the movie would have even better than it is now and returns is already an epic since singer directed it.

Two-Face
07-05-2006, 04:31 PM
Batman Begins ain't epic? Yes it is.

nolan's roll'n
07-05-2006, 08:10 PM
That's something I want to see, Peter Jackson direct a batman film.

xxshady
07-05-2006, 08:44 PM
I have no problem with Peter Jackson directing a Batman film but he might MAKE it a little TOO epic... if you know what i mean?

nolan's roll'n
07-05-2006, 09:39 PM
David Fincher wouldn't be a bad choice to replace Nolan after BB3.

The Chairman
07-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Jackson would be an interesting choice. With him on board, we can probably get to see the character taken in a different direction and he can probably do some amazing special effets work. Since he doesn't generally ground his films in reality, we'd probably get to see some of the more obscure villians pop up. I bet Jackson could create an awesome Clayface.

StorminNorman
07-06-2006, 12:35 AM
Christian Bale makes his directorial debut in BB4 :)

Actually I could really dig Fincher or Whedon, however I would probably pick James McTeigue if I had to name only one. His V for Vendetta rocked the socks off of me and I really liked what he did with it.

The key though is the screenwriter and I would be in Heaven if Jeff Loeb ever got a shot with a Batman skript.

ghost113
07-06-2006, 07:28 AM
I have no problem with Peter Jackson directing a Batman film but he might MAKE it a little TOO epic... if you know what i mean?

This is exactly were I was going with my comment.

CConn
07-09-2006, 08:34 PM
David Fincher, Michael Mann, and Alex Proyas are my three main choices. If Proyas could sorta recreate the Burtonesque world he shaped in The Crow as well as keep the comic accuracy at a high level, he would be my first choice by far.

Ronny Shade
07-10-2006, 08:42 AM
I think Jackson is much better for Superman or Green Lantern than Batman

El Payaso
07-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Fincher.

nolan's roll'n
07-10-2006, 12:42 PM
I think Jackson is much better for Superman or Green Lantern than Batman

I wanted Jackson to direct Superman Returns, but Singer got the job instead.

ghost113
07-10-2006, 02:05 PM
but singer made it work so I'm not complaining.

nolan's roll'n
07-10-2006, 02:09 PM
but singer made it work so I'm not complaining.

Yeah Singer did make it work but I'd like to Peter Jackson direct a future Batman or Superman film.

StorminNorman
07-10-2006, 04:51 PM
I dont want to see a 4 hour long Batman or Superman movie :(

ghost113
07-10-2006, 07:00 PM
Superman returns was almost three hours and King kong couldn't have been that long was it I haven't seen it.

StorminNorman
07-10-2006, 07:02 PM
Superman Returns was 2h 15min, King Kong was 3+ hours long.

ghost113
07-10-2006, 07:21 PM
Wow, I'm really not going to rent it now Maybe download a better version than i have.

CConn
07-10-2006, 07:22 PM
And don't forget the as-yet-to-be-released King Kong Extended Edition. :o

ghost113
07-10-2006, 07:30 PM
yeah that sucks

ChrisBaleBatman
07-10-2006, 07:35 PM
I dunno.....Nolan is a young man. I imagine he'll be there for a long time....

ghost113
07-10-2006, 07:46 PM
nice sig