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Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:02 AM
From the Gossip Monkey at moviehole:

Anyway, here it is.

What a truly spectacular opening weekend “X-Men” had. Some say $200m, others not too far off that. Some say it was crap, I for one say ‘you try making a damn movie and getting it into picture houses damnit!’. That is a hard enough feat in itself. Just for the record, and despite what the big-men are saying, I can tell you that they are definitely talking about doing an "X-Men 4", now, if they already weren't. It just won't be "X-Men 4".... more of a 'Next Generation' thing. Ironic analogy, considering Patrick Stewart has already agreed to return. But more on the world of "X-Men" in the column, below...
Talking of dressing up in hot, PVC kinky costumes (like a white plastic Nurse outfit for example) and making your own rough and tumble movie, my Mac’s decided to clam up due to my constant pounding of video capacity that I’m forcing Imovie to take in. The constant pounding I am of course referring to is footage of Lady Monkey and I. You know, whenever you’re feeling a touch bit creative, ya always encounter more than a damn problem or two. It really is quite frustrating. It’s not like I’m adding effects or anything. Well, I did try and do a sepia shot with some aged film, but it looked a little Lady Chatterly meets Charlie Chaplin. (Now there’s a pitch for a movie damnit!). Now I love my Princess Lady Monkey and she’s been away recently, visiting her Grand mother and, get this, her Great Grand Mother. OK, in Hollywood terms, that’s just somebody who’s considered a mature actor marrying for the second, third or fourth time, but I find it an amazing and wonderful feat. A treasure. Seriously, especially when they get pulled over for speeding!

I’ve been searching for one of those dressing screens. You know the kinda thing. A room divider. A privacy screen, which leads me to this. Right, Lady Monkey and I have a new apartment someplace. Now I’m not stating I have a lot of property, but I’m fortunate than most to have a little more than Clint’s Basement. So we’re gonna be in this apartment for a bit, with me getting extremely excited for the prospect of Lady Monkey’s arrival in the place. By arrival I mean two senses of the word. Ha! Anyways, Princess’s pal wanted to stay over while she sorts herself out. We both said it wasn’t suitable, seeing as it’s only a small place, though has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with my insecurity that Lady Monkey once had a threesome with this chick. As I mentioned in previous Monkey columns, my pals and I have discussed this issue, so back track if care to do so as I’m not going over it again. Seriously, I have nothing to worry about when Lady Monkey is concerned. She’s an absolute dream. If I was one of those kids from “Weird Science”, then I woulda made Princess Lady Monkey. Anyways, get this, my lawyer Monkey pal has offered to ‘put her up’, out of the goodness of his falic shaped heart. Watch this space for updates on that one. Well, I need to get some essentials now. You know, bananas and wine, but here’s some tid bits. Now, is it tid bits or tit bits?

007 winding down
This one time, at Bond Camp. It’ll all wind down soon, people. I’m talking about filming. Then the real marketing hype will take place. As with all the Bond movies, “they’re” saying “it’s the best yet”. Well, obviously words like that would be spouted. People aren’t gonna say “It’s the crappiest Bond” or “It’s the third best Bond movie yet!” or “we haven’t exactly made a Bond film, so try and imagine it isn’t, but please see it, as it’s like the Bourne movies!” One mistake with the Bond name is tapping into the kiddie market and doing those Young Bond books. What the..? You get some funny guy that Johnny Depp likes, who has the slightest fondness for Bond, yet has absolutely no experience in penning such a genre and you give him the right to go where he likes with a teenage James Bond character!! Now I hear whispers that the big noises wanna tap into the movie market and do an adaptation of this “Fast Show” guy’s book! Ok, not only will continuity be out the window for “Royale”, but for Young Jimmy Bond too. All for what? It’s a simple desperate let’s make more money, screw the fans, its history and creator fact. Care has gone out the window. All need now is a court case that could crank up the marketing. Roger Michell is apparently coming on board to direct Bond 22, but some reckon it’s Campbell again. You know I’m just waiting on a Bond 23 rumor!! I noticed Samantha Bond is credited on IMDB. Hmm, really? My lawyer was on a plane to Oslo once and she was sat behind him. Not that has anything to do with this, but it’s more interesting.

Die Hard : With an Underworld Director
I thought I was having a nightmare when I learnt of Len Wiseman being tapped to helm “Die Hard 4.0”..... had to pinch myself. It doesn't make sense. It was bad enough hearing, back when, that Mark Bomback was rewriting it, and you just know for sure that Wiseman is going to get his “Underworld” typing hands on the script, now too. I've read a few of the different screenplays for "Die Hard 4" over the years, and this one, just ain't it. It seemed to be missing....something. I can't understand Bruno and Arnold giving it the thumbs up.... but they have, and casting is about to get underway shortly.

Ratner directing spin-off?
I hear that Brett Ratner is in talks to direct "Wolverine". FOX are apparently happy with the job Ratner did on "X-Men 3", as I am, and he apparently gets on well with Hugh Jackman - who will be starring and producing - so it's a no-brainer, by the sounds. Ratner’s apparently got a woody for Vinnie Jones, too, and I hear he’s trying to find him a slot in that one. (And good to hear that Ian McKellen will indeed be starring in the “Magneto” spin-off. Guess they’ll just de-age him with some computer effects….or something?). First though, Ratner's doing "Rush Hour 3", which will also have an "X-Men" link : Ian McKellen, who is in talks to play the baddie.

boywonder13
06-01-2006, 12:10 AM
Wow! Patrick Stewart is returining for X-Men 4/ Next Generation! Ian Mckellan in Magneto! WOW! These are dreamscome true!

BUT THEY ARE JUST RUMORS!!

I don't want Ratner on Wolverine!! :(

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:13 AM
Ratner did great with Red Dragon so to me he could do a darker pic like Wolverine fine. At least this one isn't rushed. The script is done. I hope the Magneto flick takes place after X3 with Magneto telling the story of how he came to be and at the end of the film regaining most of his powers back. It's a bit more than just a rumor. The GM is a screenwriter who's on the inside of this talk.

The Kid
06-01-2006, 12:23 AM
oh no, ratner's wolverine... bullocks. He's such an average director... Oy... :(

Just Give him time fox. Please give him time...

Thunder Emperor
06-01-2006, 12:26 AM
oh no, ratner's wolverine... bullocks. He's such an average director... Oy... :(

Just Give him time fox. Please give him time...
go watch red dragon

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:26 AM
if he's in talks now that's lots of time. it's due out in 2008 and the script is done. he's also had experience with the character on film now.

Obsidian
06-01-2006, 12:27 AM
Give it to James Cameron!:mad:

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:29 AM
^ GIVE ME A BREAK. james cameron would be nice but it'll never happen and besides he'd load the film up with too many personal messgages about poloution and nuculear war.

Obsidian
06-01-2006, 12:31 AM
^ GIVE ME A BREAK. james cameron would be nice but it'll never happen and besides he'd load the film up with too many personal messgages about poloution and nuculear war.

wtf..."too many personal messages about pollution and nuclear war"?!:rolleyes:

BMM
06-01-2006, 12:33 AM
Haha. Ian McKellen in talks to play the villain in the next Rush Hour movie. Somehow, that seems so out of place.

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 12:34 AM
Yeah... HMMMMMMMM very out of place. :o

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:40 AM
hey guys check it out!

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9031098&postcount=1

The Kid
06-01-2006, 12:42 AM
go watch red dragon

seen it. was pretty average. nothing special about it.

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:43 AM
I WONDER WHY ALL OF RATNER"S AVERAge movies make so much damn money. more than any x-film prior to x3.

The Kid
06-01-2006, 12:44 AM
After the sunset

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:46 AM
That's 1. Rush hour 1, Red Dragon, Rush hour 2, family man, money talks and x3 were all fun films and all made great profits.

Cyma
06-01-2006, 12:47 AM
It would be nice if they bring some X-men characters in the spin-off too :)

Maze
06-01-2006, 12:51 AM
Ratner and Juggernaut?

Meh.

Stop him for christ sake.

Ps: i thought red dragon was average at best.

Tommy
06-01-2006, 12:52 AM
I thought Wolverine was going to be a prequel? I really would rather it not take place post X3.

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:54 AM
i"m sure it"s gonna be a prequel in a way as avi SAID. AN ORIGIN FILM THAT GOES BACK IN FORTH IN WOLVIES DISOVERY OF HIS PAST.

Maze
06-01-2006, 12:56 AM
Xmen 4 :Next generation Xmen movie?

i guess iceman , kitty ,colossus, Angel , (rogue?) and second rate young mutants are going to star.

All signs that this franchise is going down the toilet..

.............stop that **** marvel........:down

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 12:57 AM
Zak Penn Is Writing It. It's The So Called Spin-off That's More Of A Sequel.

PWN3R
06-01-2006, 12:59 AM
If Colossus actually has a role this time, then count me in. :o

The Kid
06-01-2006, 01:00 AM
That's 1. Rush hour 1, Red Dragon, Rush hour 2, family man, money talks and x3 were all fun films and all made great profits.

ok Red Dragon is up there in the good fun department (I'll give it some slack. hopskins makes any movie good) but the rest are fun average movies at best... I think family man and money talks didn't really make 'great' profits.

I expect more than 'fun' for a wolverine film, but I'm not counting ratner out yet. With more time and less of his ADhd problem getting in the way, I hope he may give us a 'great' film...

Maze
06-01-2006, 01:00 AM
Thanks for the reminder...

I had forgotten that one...

Penn...seriously :down

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:01 AM
Cudmore is signed for 3 films, Grammar for at least 2, Foster for 3, and with Jackman being a producer of Wolverine he might give himself a cameo in this one to help sell the film.

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:03 AM
who's silver surfer?

Darth Nata
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
I want Zack Snyder or James McTeigue to direct Wolverine

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
^ you are joking right? who's silver surfer?

GOOGLE

http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/greenlantern/wallpaper/silver-surfer.jpg

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:04 AM
I want Zack Snyder or James McTeigue to direct Wolverine

who? Never heard of them.

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:06 AM
^ you are joking right? who's silver surfer?

GOOGLE

sorry... X-men, spiderman, superman, batman are the only comic movies/cartoons I've ever seen... ONLY... but my heart belongs to X-Men :O I hearts it. Lots. :o

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:07 AM
Try picking up Silver Surfer it's some of the best sci-fi action out there. Infinity Gauntlet anyone

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:10 AM
So...silver surfer is in FF2?

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:11 AM
^ Yep>

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:12 AM
okay... I almost confused myself with X4 and FF2 :p

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:13 AM
Actually SS might find himself in a future X-Film if we're lucky however his origins need to be told through and around the Fantastic Four for now.

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:15 AM
Oooh... I need a new avvy...

lol... so Dark...ya like X3? ... It had its moments. Question...did Dr. Moira ever worked with SInister?

LuvinAlize
06-01-2006, 01:15 AM
Xmen 4 :Next generation Xmen movie?

i guess iceman , kitty ,colossus, Angel , (rogue?) and second rate young mutants are going to star.

All signs that this franchise is going down the toilet..

.............stop that **** marvel........:down

Actually, I wouldn't mind a movie like that, if done correctly. I used to read Generation X, and I can picture something similar to it... I'd like to see more of Colossus, Icemans ice slid, The cure messing with mutant powers leading to Rogue gaining superstrength and flight, etc....Lets just hope its not like the cheap Generation X movie that Fox put out several years ago. Anyone Remember that? Where Emma Frost and Banshee led the X kids.... and Jubilee was caucasian and Mondo the samoan was black? lol... I'm sorry, I think some changes from comics to film are fine, but only to the extent where it doesn't piss the fans off too much... Maybe we nitpick a bit too much, but hey, we're the ones paying to see the movie multiple times.

Something I dont understand. Why does Steven Spielberg do movies like War of the Worlds and Minority Report, which to me were good but nothing too memorable.... and yet, we cant get a director like him, cameron(last film Aliens of the Deep? wtf), or George Lucas for x-men? Hell, they can even give us a Robert Zemeckis or Ron Howard! It's like they put together such a talented Award winning cast, they might as well give us an award winning director... No offense to Brett Ratner...

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:16 AM
Actually, I wouldn't mind a movie like that, if done correctly. I used to read Generation X, and I can picture something similar to it... I'd like to see more of Colossus, Icemans ice slid, The cure messing with mutant powers leading to Rogue gaining superstrength and flight, etc....Lets just hope its not like the cheap Generation X movie that Fox put out several years ago. Anyone Remember that? Where Emma Frost and Banshee led the X kids.... and Jubilee was caucasian and Mondo the samoan was black? lol... I'm sorry, I think some changes from comics to film are fine, but only to the extent where it doesn't piss the fans off too much... Maybe we nitpick a bit too much, but hey, we're the ones paying to see the movie multiple times.

Something I dont understand. Why does Steven Spielberg do movies like War of the Worlds and Minority Report, which to me were good but nothing too memorable.... and yet, we cant get a director like him, cameron(last film Aliens of the Deep? wtf), or George Lucas for x-men? Hell, they can even give us a Robert Zemeckis or Ron Howard! It's like they put together such a talented Award winning cast, they might as well give us an award winning director... No offense to Brett Ratner...

Spielberg will do Captain America. He's infatuated with that character and was hoping to do it long ago. put money on it.

LuvinAlize
06-01-2006, 01:20 AM
Spielberg will do Captain America. He's infatuated with that character and was hoping to do it long ago. put money on it.

put money on it?:down Who am i Longshot? lol... i dont have that kind of luck... seriously, that would be awesome if he was given Captain America... Hope you're right :up:

DarknessOfDeath
06-01-2006, 01:21 AM
... I hope Moira gets a bigger role...

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:24 AM
put money on it?:down Who am i Longshot? lol... i dont have that kind of luck... seriously, that would be awesome if he was given Captain America... Hope you're right :up:

my feeling is it'll be annouced in 2007.

Maze
06-01-2006, 01:33 AM
Spielberg will do Captain America. He's infatuated with that character and was hoping to do it long ago. put money on it.

That i like:up: i doubt it sorry untill i see it , but i like that :) :up:

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:36 AM
Avi said there's a specific director but he's not free till 2009 to start filming. It all fits.

Maze
06-01-2006, 01:39 AM
Actually, I wouldn't mind a movie like that, if done correctly. I used to read Generation X, and I can picture something similar to it... I'd like to see more of Colossus, Icemans ice slid, The cure messing with mutant powers leading to Rogue gaining superstrength and flight, etc....Lets just hope its not like the cheap Generation X movie that Fox put out several years ago. Anyone Remember that? Where Emma Frost and Banshee led the X kids.... and Jubilee was caucasian and Mondo the samoan was black? lol... I'm sorry, I think some changes from comics to film are fine, but only to the extent where it doesn't piss the fans off too much... Maybe we nitpick a bit too much, but hey, we're the ones paying to see the movie multiple times.

Something I dont understand. Why does Steven Spielberg do movies like War of the Worlds and Minority Report, which to me were good but nothing too memorable.... and yet, we cant get a director like him, cameron(last film Aliens of the Deep? wtf), or George Lucas for x-men? Hell, they can even give us a Robert Zemeckis or Ron Howard! It's like they put together such a talented Award winning cast, they might as well give us an award winning director... No offense to Brett Ratner...
You know i am a big generation X fan ( i mean the comics ;) ) i'm even a big New mutant fans from the eighties , but with that kind of filmmakers , with the storylines set up in X3 ( if there is one thing they could have kept out from the comics imo , it's multiple resurected character among others ) with the others characters wasted ( i mean scott :o ) ....and i dunno like i said i liked those comics , but at this point , for movies , i just see an attempt to reach the Dawson audience..really i don't have any trust in those filmmakers..

ps : yep , if only :mad:

Advanced Dark
06-01-2006, 01:46 AM
That i like:up: i doubt it sorry untill i see it , but i like that :) :up:

Actually spielberg worked on the old Captain America cartoon and even did a voice over on it if i remember correctly.

fallenAngel
06-01-2006, 02:09 AM
I don't want Ratner to direct Wolverine (hopefully titled Weapon X but I doubt it) he doesn't have enough of an edge. THen again I don't give a flying F*** about Hughs movie.

And A next generation movie sounds iffy, I think it would be cool if the young muties became a government mutant team ala X factor. I think an X factor movie could be awesome. Then they could throw in havok and forge, and possibly Polaris, but her power is too similar to Magneto so I doubt they would.

GoldGoblin
06-01-2006, 02:57 AM
Cool sounds like we will get an X-Men movie without Wolverine and Storm in it giving the screen time to Colossus,Iceman,Angel,Kitty,and Rogue.About freakin time.

L0ngsh0t
06-01-2006, 03:13 AM
Give it to James Cameron!:mad:

give me Tarantino, give me Rodriguez, give me De Palma, Michael Mann, Scorcessie!! dammit

point is, Ratner is by far not the best director on the planet, he definatly is in the middle of the pack some where the movies he has made he has proven that he has some talent (Rush Hours, Red Dragon, X3) and proven he can flop hard to(After the Sunset, others i can't think of off the top of my head) but he is good, and again, Jackmen, Stewart, Mckellen, they aren't idiots, they aren't going to do these movies (Especially Jackmen considering he is producing the movie) if they didn't think Ratner was a good director

Ratner suits the purpose of big budget action as good as anyone and better in those terms then his predecessor Singer (albeit Singer is obviously the more talented filmmaker, Ratner made the better X-Men movie, but Usual Suspects rules)

this also raises another interesting question...what is the story of Wolverine going to be if they are going to work Juggernaut in it? will they be ditching the prequel idea? cause i kind of liked that

and while i like the Juggernaut i would also like to see Omega Red in it

Maze
06-01-2006, 03:30 AM
I say give thet Wolverine movie to Chan-Wook Park (Old boy)

There we would be in business :)

LuvinAlize
06-01-2006, 03:48 AM
You know i am a big generation X fan ( i mean the comics ;) ) i'm even a big New mutant fans from the eighties , but with that kind of filmmakers , with the storylines set up in X3 ( if there is one thing they could have kept out from the comics imo , it's multiple resurected character among others ) with the others characters wasted ( i mean scott :o ) ....and i dunno like i said i liked those comics , but at this point , for movies , i just see an attempt to reach the Dawson audience..really i don't have any trust in those filmmakers..

ps : yep , if only :mad:

I agree about the multiple resurrection. The way they "killed" Jean Grey in X2, brought her back and then killed her again in x3, along with a supposed death of Cyclops and Professor X was pretty emotional. For them to be resurrected again in future movies would just seem a bit ridiculous and repetitive, especially for the general public. I mean, the bottom line is if they are resurrected again, then I would only be watching X3 thinking about there was no point to their deaths, they're just going to be crying... Its like dont be sad wolverine, storm, and fellow x-men, if the price is right, they'll be back!

LuvinAlize
06-01-2006, 03:57 AM
this also raises another interesting question...what is the story of Wolverine going to be if they are going to work Juggernaut in it? will they be ditching the prequel idea? cause i kind of liked that

and while i like the Juggernaut i would also like to see Omega Red in it

yeah, omega red for me too :up: Now, that I think about it, reminiscing over the Kill Bill series, Tarantino would be absolutely perfect for a Wolverine movie... I want gore! I wanna see the comic book wolverine, u know the real graphic ones where wolvie is decapitating random ninjas and what not... Give me a hard R rating! that'd be perfect...

As for story... I really have no idea what they would do, especially if its a prequel/origins story, or if its just after x4 takes place.

I actually think they should make a movie that ends/leads to Wolverine fighting in the bars of Canada... then you can watch wolverine and then X1 right after.... Then you'll wonder, "How, did Logan get so skinny and scrawny? And why does he seem to be looking older, isnt his mutant healing factor supposed to make his age 'impossible to determine'?" :)