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MarvelWarrior
06-02-2006, 01:18 AM
I remember reading this series back in the early 90s. What happened to his character?
The Watchman
06-02-2006, 01:22 AM
He was in a recent arc of Runaways...he joined some organization that helps young superheroes...can't remember specifics
WOLVERINE25TH
06-02-2006, 01:22 AM
You can find him in the pages of Runaways as part of the Excelsiors and the last Marvel Team-Up arc on the League of Losers.
TheCorpulent1
06-02-2006, 01:22 AM
He's been around, and he's experienced a major upswing in activity lately. Chris Powell appeared as a member of Excelsior, the "support group" for ex-teen superheroes featured in Runaways, and he played a major role in a recent Marvel Team-Up arc called "The Legion of Losers."
The Watchman
06-02-2006, 01:23 AM
word homies. :up:
MarvelWarrior
06-02-2006, 01:24 AM
Interesting,cool to hear that he's still around. Has his design changed any?
TheCorpulent1
06-02-2006, 01:27 AM
It changed back to his original look, basically.
MarvelWarrior
06-02-2006, 01:29 AM
Cool, thanks for the info guys, I appreciate it. I wonder if there's a chance he'll get his own series again.
TheCorpulent1
06-02-2006, 01:30 AM
Doubtful, but I suppose anything's possible. He'll probably pop back up in Runaways at some point. Vaughan just kind of left their subplot dangling.
RAMORE
06-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Interesting,cool to hear that he's still around. Has his design changed any?


A guy named Brad did some redesign stuff that was cool:

old costume
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/Pics/darkhawk2.jpg

and his redesign
http://doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DH2.gif

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DH1.gif

http://www.doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DH3.gif

http://www.doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DH4.gif

http://doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DHcolored.jpg

http://www.doomedculturegraphics.com/newpics/DHcolored2.jpg
RAMORE
06-06-2006, 12:43 PM
i think the pencils look better than the finish but that's just me.
ShadowBoxing
06-06-2006, 12:44 PM
He would make a cool movie.
JewishHobbit
06-06-2006, 12:48 PM
I would totally buy another Darkhawk ongoing. I didn't really get into him until after his series ended, but I've picked almost all of them up as back issues and love them all. I was ecstatic when he showed up in Runaways and I'm hoping for a return, or at least an Excelsior mini, leading into an ongoing :)
DraXXXen
06-06-2006, 01:27 PM
He also appeared in the War Machine miniseries under Marvels MAX comic line. He had a new look and was completely bat**** insane mentally.
Tropico
06-06-2006, 01:36 PM
It'd be good to know what happened to his second body/armor, it looks a lot like the Darkhawk V.3 we've seen here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Darkhawk38.jpg

It was also weird how Chris kept getting violent when he turned into Darkhawk (which I don't remember happening in his series) and it would've been interesting to see if it was because the alien bodies he switched places with were gaining some kind of sentience or if his real body was somehow being affected from being in that spaceship when he switched bodies.
RAMORE
06-06-2006, 01:52 PM
He also appeared in the War Machine miniseries under Marvels MAX comic line. He had a new look and was completely bat**** insane mentally.


Really how was the look different and why was he insane?


I too think this would make a cool movie.
JewishHobbit
06-06-2006, 01:52 PM
I never liked that 2nd suit. The first one was classic and should remain. And I've read the first 20 or so of his ongoing while glimpsting through the rest of the issues up to that one that you posted, and I don't remember him ever getting aggressive like that either. I wonder if that was taken from the War Machine Mini that he was in, though I think that one is now considered out of continuity.
RAMORE
06-06-2006, 02:01 PM
yeah i didn't like that suit either but the first is very 90ish and could be updated.
Tropico
06-06-2006, 02:26 PM
I never liked that 2nd suit. The first one was classic and should remain. And I've read the first 20 or so of his ongoing while glimpsting through the rest of the issues up to that one that you posted, and I don't remember him ever getting aggressive like that either. I wonder if that was taken from the War Machine Mini that he was in, though I think that one is now considered out of continuity.

Yeah, I mean his personality shifts a bit because of all he goes through; but, whose wouldn't? It never reached that bloodthirsty and irrational level we've seen in Excelsior.
torkibe
06-06-2006, 04:16 PM
It's funny that someone started this thread... I was just going through some old things (I'm moving) and I found a box with the complete run of DH including 2 Avengers annuals that he appeared in (Plus Deathlocke 1-4 and a few old Sleepwalkers lol). I forgot I even had those. I used to LOVE DH. I think they really dropped the ball on that one. I'd love to see him come back a little juiced up. Like, have there be another body that he was never aware of that's more powerful.
i'm Spider-Man
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
I read the MTU issues, that arc is in fact represents my whole collection of MTU issues, lol...

I thought Darkhawk was a GREAT character. Able to lead a team, able to pull the best out of those around him, pretty deep characterisation, great powers, interesting look... Overall, just a really cool character. I hope he pops up in Civil War, after all he does count as one of those 'Young Heroes' that Stark and the government are so worried about...
JewishHobbit
06-06-2006, 06:54 PM
Was the "League of Losers" arc in continuity? Was it the Darkhawk we love, or some future version? I had glimpsed through the first issue and it looked like some alternate future thing, so I never picked it up.
Dread
06-06-2006, 07:23 PM
Was the "League of Losers" arc in continuity? Was it the Darkhawk we love, or some future version? I had glimpsed through the first issue and it looked like some alternate future thing, so I never picked it up.
The "League of Losers" arc is NOT part of Marvel's 616 "canon" reality, as noted in ALL-NEW OHBOTMU #5 in Gravity's bio. Chronok came from an alternate future reality, and the "LOL" prevented him from effecting 616 as well as creating a reality where he didn't succeed.

Basically, 616 has NO definate future, because Marvel never ends. Any "future" reality is an alternate reality that is mistaken for "official reality's" future. As such, there are actually many "alternate earths" or realities at Marvel, despite the perception that they had "one Earth" and DC's Multiverse was too complicated. Characters from alternate realities have mangled into 616's stream many times, from X-Man to the Brute and beyond, and it could be just as confusing as Power-Girl's origin.
Speedball
06-06-2006, 07:26 PM
League of Losers should get thier own series.
Damn i loved that arc.
Dread
06-06-2006, 07:28 PM
League of Losers should get thier own series.
Damn i loved that arc.
Me too. It will probably go down as the highlight of Kirkman's MTU run, unless "Freedom Ring" REALLY picks up later on. Really showcased that what keeps a lot of "C-Listers" down is how they are written and the situations they are in, or lack thereof. Anyone can be cool when they have to save the world. Have Wolverine do it a billion times, of course he'll be cool. Have Speedball look like a joke enough, of course he won't be cool. Great characters don't happen by accident. They are created, re-created, revisioned, improved, etc.

Besides, if most of us were heroes, what're the odds that we'd all end up A-class? The lower rent heroes are closer to the common man in that regard, and that's what makes them fun to root for sometimes.
deemar325
06-06-2006, 07:44 PM
That's some cool art for Darkhawk! nice redesign.
JewishHobbit
06-06-2006, 11:44 PM
The "League of Losers" arc is NOT part of Marvel's 616 "canon" reality, as noted in ALL-NEW OHBOTMU #5 in Gravity's bio. Chronok came from an alternate future reality, and the "LOL" prevented him from effecting 616 as well as creating a reality where he didn't succeed.

Basically, 616 has NO definate future, because Marvel never ends. Any "future" reality is an alternate reality that is mistaken for "official reality's" future. As such, there are actually many "alternate earths" or realities at Marvel, despite the perception that they had "one Earth" and DC's Multiverse was too complicated. Characters from alternate realities have mangled into 616's stream many times, from X-Man to the Brute and beyond, and it could be just as confusing as Power-Girl's origin.

Well, I know the deal with alternate futures and such (I have been reading Marvel for 15 years afterall), I just hadn't read the story and didn't know the basics. I was just wondering if it was one of those stories where it's set in current 616, then goes nuts, and they make it back okay... aka... it's the actual characters, not future versions of themselves. But you answered my question, and for that I thank you :up:
TheCorpulent1
06-07-2006, 12:32 AM
It'd be good to know what happened to his second body/armor, it looks a lot like the Darkhawk V.3 we've seen here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/DDude/Darkhawk38.jpg

It was also weird how Chris kept getting violent when he turned into Darkhawk (which I don't remember happening in his series) and it would've been interesting to see if it was because the alien bodies he switched places with were gaining some kind of sentience or if his real body was somehow being affected from being in that spaceship when he switched bodies.
That second suit was bad for his health. You can clearly see that it's mysteriously broken his left arm right around the shoulder area. :(
MarvelWarrior
06-07-2006, 02:44 AM
Anyone remember his rouges gallery? I know he fought Hobgoblin and Tombstone. And some girl named Lodestone and the bad Darkhawk named Portal.
JewishHobbit
06-07-2006, 07:29 AM
Portal was the green one right? What was the red one's name? Overhawk or something like that?
Tropico
06-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Well, I know the deal with alternate futures and such (I have been reading Marvel for 15 years afterall), I just hadn't read the story and didn't know the basics. I was just wondering if it was one of those stories where it's set in current 616, then goes nuts, and they make it back okay... aka... it's the actual characters, not future versions of themselves. But you answered my question, and for that I thank you :up:

It apparently starts in the 616 universe and then the LoL travel to the bad guy's future which apparently is the new 2099 future (the one that had a bunch of one shots, not the original 2099). They train there for a while and then go on to defeat the villain in the future so that their past never happens. Since they created a paradox they're left in the future supposedly with the comforting knowledge that their "original selves" were safe.

If I understand Marvel temporal mechanics correctly it would mean that they COULDN'T have started out in the 616 universe but probably saved it by stopping the bad guy from traveling back in time to the 616 universe since it couldn't be their actual past since it was already destroyed. It's the only way I could make sense of it for it to be relevant to the 616 universe. They have to start out in an alternate "present" and travel to an alternate future but end up saving our present in the end. I'm dizzy!!:O
DraXXXen
06-07-2006, 03:34 PM
Really how was the look different and why was he insane?


I too think this would make a cool movie.


You can see Darkhawk behind warmachine on this cover, though I could not find any of the clearer pics from the actual issue:


http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/0/0c/USWarMachine_9.jpg


Cannot recall why exactly he was insane, but they had to keep him locked up and he rarely made any sense when talking.
TheCorpulent1
06-07-2006, 03:56 PM
US War Machine sucked. :(
i'm Spider-Man
06-07-2006, 04:41 PM
MTU #15 COVER:

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/666/666581/marvel-team-up-20051114022933089.jpg
Harlekin
06-07-2006, 04:45 PM
I really have to pick up the TPB of that.
i'm Spider-Man
06-07-2006, 04:46 PM
it was a really, really good story. It was nice to see so many minor characters making such a great team.
JewishHobbit
06-07-2006, 05:33 PM
I've been meaning to pick up some MTU trades anyhow, so I'll probably start with that one.
deemar325
06-07-2006, 05:36 PM
US War Machine sucked. :(

It had a good premise, but poor translation.
RAMORE
06-08-2006, 11:32 AM
Me too. It will probably go down as the highlight of Kirkman's MTU run, unless "Freedom Ring" REALLY picks up later on. Really showcased that what keeps a lot of "C-Listers" down is how they are written and the situations they are in, or lack thereof. Anyone can be cool when they have to save the world. Have Wolverine do it a billion times, of course he'll be cool. Have Speedball look like a joke enough, of course he won't be cool. Great characters don't happen by accident. They are created, re-created, revisioned, improved, etc.

Besides, if most of us were heroes, what're the odds that we'd all end up A-class? The lower rent heroes are closer to the common man in that regard, and that's what makes them fun to root for sometimes.


Amen to this^ so true:up: