I Am Here To Support Ghost Rider!!!!

[MutantCircus]

I can't wait for this movie. Ghost Toasies is gonna rock! :up:

[FlameHead]

I think it was decided that it's going to be called Ghostie-O's...

[MarvelMovies]

Ghostie-O's..

Biggun's invention

:)

[BIGGUN]

Who said Ghostie O's? theres Ghostie O's?!! where where? tell me where dammit!!!!

what? (Biggun talking to someone offscreen) really?
oh....youre just talking about "Ghostie Os"...ahh...ok.......
Nevermind :)

[FlameHead]

Well, now that we know BIGGUN has lost his mind, who's next?

[BIGGUN]

well i lost my mind a longgggg time ago.....im just a good actor :)

[FlameHead]

that you must be. You had me fooled into somebody who knows what they're talking about. As an actor myself, got any tips?

[ironmaidenrules]

wow

all we need is that iron man forum and we are all set

LETS HOPE THIS MOVIE DOESN'T SUCK

[FlameHead]

Wow, that's... almost a postive message.

[MutantCircus]

Spidey once called GR "Ghost Toasties" and that's been my favorite nickname for him ever since.

[BIGGUN]

that you must be. You had me fooled into somebody who knows what they're talking about. As an actor myself, got any tips?


heh...hey you can still be crazy and knowledable at the same time right?
but to be honest i cant say its due to acting skills that get me by....its really the multiple personalities. 123 1/2 the last time i counted....cant remember the 123 but the 1/2 is a midget wrestler from Mexico who goes by the name of Juan....
and yes i am joking folks...or am i? heh

[FlameHead]

It's hard to tell when crazy people are joking. I think I met Juan once, by the way. Nice feller.

[Hunter Rider]

1)Nic Cage is a massive star,like him or not (I Do nice choice MSJ)and people whether they are fans of the character or not will always go to see a big star's movie.Just look at Will Smith he took a book(I Robot) that nobody outside of hardcore SC FI fans had ever heard of let alone read and it made a ton of cash.Now i know someone will say it wasn't a proper adaption but that's not the point.The point is people go to see movie's with big star's in them period.

2)people have been looking for a kick ass virtually invincible hero since T2(lets not talk T3 it was OK)every hero in the last decade+ has been either conflicted or confused etc where GR is pure of purpose LIke Arnie In T2.

3)Just wait till they get a look at GR onscreen,fans and general audiences alike are gonna go Ape****.

IMHO:) :ghost:

[CaptainStacy]

That, and at the end of the day, everyone LOVES a good motorcycle movie!

[Kmack]

I believe its going to be a big hit also.:)

[Johnny Blaze]

I have faith that it will. :)

I gotta say, I'm looking forward to Ghost Rider more then I am to Spider-Man 3...and that's saying alot. Here's hoping GR will be a sleeper hit. :up:

[dk]

3)Just wait till they get a look at GR onscreen,fans and general audiences alike are gonna go Ape****.

This, I think, is more important than Cage or the concept, even. Ghost Rider has always been one of Marvel's most visually striking characters. If they manage to pull off the look convincingly and accurately, I've always felt that it would draw an audience in.

Truthfully, Cage is a bit of a liability as far as American box office goes. His last few films haven't made a lot of money. The effect of Cage's star power on a film goes up and down a lot - kind of like Travolta. We'll see how National Treasure does, I guess. The potential is there for Ghost Rider to be successful, I think - even though it's a character virtually no one knows about.

[FlameHead]

I don't think we have to rely on Craptional Treasure to prove Cage is the right man for the job. Two completely different characters there and plus, I doubt Cage is as big a fan of that character as he is Ghost Rider. That'll make all the difference.

There are die hard Cage fans out there that won't miss this movie and there are die hard Ghost Rider fans that won't miss this movie. That's a healty audience in itself. Then, factor in all those people that are going to say "HOLY ****" when they first see the character on screen. Those people will flock to the cinema.

I think Johnny Blaze is on the right track saying this could be a sleeper hit.

[Hunter Rider]

Just a thought off subject the GR forum is the best one on these boards i have just come off the Superman and X men boards and they are like schoolyards,full of childish name calling and big head know it alls.I joined the boards for intelligent and friendly disscussions on marvel and dc characters (I'm not a hater) but a lot of the time i run into the above problems.anybody know why the GR board seems to have the most comraderie? i mean i am a GR rookie and have got lots of Info and answers from both Flamehead and BIGGUN(thanks guys) but on the other boards it's more about i'm right and your wrong or iv'e been here longer than you so i know best.Anyway keep up the good work GR fasns and lets keep this board positive:) :ghost:

[Nero_Ordin]

cage is a big star but the concept should atract people.

[FlameHead]

Just a thought off subject the GR forum is the best one on these boards i have just come off the Superman and X men boards and they are like schoolyards,full of childish name calling and big head know it alls.I joined the boards for intelligent and friendly disscussions on marvel and dc characters (I'm not a hater) but a lot of the time i run into the above problems.anybody know why the GR board seems to have the most comraderie? i mean i am a GR rookie and have got lots of Info and answers from both Flamehead and BIGGUN(thanks guys) but on the other boards it's more about i'm right and your wrong or iv'e been here longer than you so i know best.Anyway keep up the good work GR fasns and lets keep this board positive:) :ghost:

Yeah, so far this little section of the hype is turning out to be very good. No arguments yet some really friendly debates... lots of information sharing... tonnes of interest. It's fantastic.

I guess it's mainly because there are only a few of us here... and most of us have been talking of nothing but Ghost Rider since meeting. I just hope that when others start falling for ol flameface that this place doesn't turn sour.

[Balthus Dire]

As long as it's dark, it'll be great.

[FlameHead]

If it's too dark, we wont be able to see anything. Ha.

[skorponok]

I think that it will do either Daredevil numbers or right around that territory.

[dk]

I think that it will do either Daredevil numbers or right around that territory.

That's a very reasonable early projection - although I'd imagine Sony would like to hope for at least another $50 million added to that total. GHOST RIDER should cost as much if not more than DAREDEVIL to film, so they've got to bank on at least $100 million domestic, IMO.

[BrodieBruce]

This movie has the most potential of nearly any marvel second and thierd tier property.:up:

[BrodieBruce]

This movie has the most potential of nearly any marvel second and third tier property.:up:

[FlameHead]

That's one way to drive a point home.

You are correctomundo though. I think this could pull in 100 million or more...

[batman 833]

I have seen many superhero movies many of them bad some great, like batman begins, awesome spidey 1, 2 x-men 2 ,v.s punisher f4, well dare devil, i know that its probably

[metalhead3676]

well ya any movie can be great and hell i love gr so i hope it turns out to be another hit for marvel like the spider man and x-men series it really all depends on how much the actors and every one that is part of the project and knowin how much cage loves the character i think he will work his ass off to make this work and make it a great movie i guess we will find out when it comes out

[batmaluco]

I hope this too. GR is a great character, Cage a very talented actor, so let's keep our fingers crossed.
If they treat it with the respect and deliver good acting, good action scenes and a nice plot, this movie will be a huge success. (and better than this, a nice, great movie!)

[batman 833]

Okay first of all i think (and hope) GR will be great and everything, some people are already bashing it because MSJ is behind it and becuase of DD's unsucess, but the thing is that we all know that this time sony is behind the production,and that they are giving MSJ more freedom than fox gave him with DD.But some people still dont believe,i got friends of mine that think that way, o it has the same director as DD did, its going to suck, it makes me angry because even the media is treating it at it was some indie film, i know its not batman or superman or spiderman but it has the quality characters and story and style to be as good as batman begins, well thats really dificult but not impossible, if its done to the best, it can be epic and the surprise movie of summer 2006 even more than superman. Not because it is a less known character than the flagship supeheros does it mean it cannot be great, i just really hope that GR kicks ass so regular moviegoers will start to recognize him as a mayor superhero, because if not then making this movie would be Pointless ,i dont know the budget of this film but i hope they're given as much money as they need to make ghost rider as good as posible, if he's done realistically enough, he could well be the most espectacular ,badass looking superhero of all times so i hope that sony is giving them all the financial suport that they need. just what do you guys have to say about it?

[invincible mann]

i have COMPLETE faith in this film
and i think it will be one of the surprise hits next summer

[Uncanny Orb]

i have COMPLETE faith in this film

Me too! GR is one of the most visually amazing characters there is and if the CGI is as good as I hope people who don't know the character are going to be drawn to that. Nic Cage is a big name and if the marketing is done right this will the best movie of 2006 maybe the best comic movie to date.

[FlameHead]

You'll be hard pressed to find a person in this section who doesn't have faith in the film. We are all pretty close here and we all have been defending the development of this film for quite a while now. You may be right with the rest of the world though as most are critical about the whole movie. The thing is, most people havent seen the development the way we have. Most people don't know the character the way we do. Because of this, they have no real concept of how huge this movie will be. I truly believe it's going to surprise a lot of people and indeed will be the sleeper hit of the 06. It'lll probably not do as good as Superman but, the thing is, it's not competing with that. It's not competing with anything really. It's just a movie, a story, that needs to be told. Whoever is lucky enough to see it will have one hell of a time. If they don't go see it, they'll have all their friends telling them what an idiot they were for not doing so.

I have faith and I believe many will join me with that faith as the time comes closer. The marketing of this movie, the image alone will make people love this flick.

[The Hellrider]

The Daredevil Director's Cut won quite a few converts from the "hate MSJ" crowd, and rightfully so. That was a pretty damn good movie, and considering Ghost Rider is at Sony rather than Fox, I see no reason to believe That GR will be any different.

Add to that Nic Cage's drawing power, the fact that they're spending a year on post-production alone, the supporting cast is really cool (Peter Fonda? Sam Elliot? c'mon!), and GR himself is just so cool looking...I think it'll be a hit.

Plus the story is just cool: Guy sells his soul to the devil to save his father's life, then gets screwed over. That's good stuff.

Now I don't think it's gonna be a blockbuster of Titanic/Spidey 2 proportions or anything, but I do believe it'll be a mid-to-high range hit that general audiences will enjoy, and comic fans (and especially GR fans) will love.:ghost::up:

[BIGGUN]

well i guess i will have to be the pessimistic one here...heh
i love what ive been hearing/seeing so far...there have only been a few complaints but they are minor. now the thing is im expecting this film to be slagged by critics (both actual and online) but think it will do well BO wise.....not stellar but im hoping enough to guarantee a sequel.
ive been a GR fan since 1977 and during all that time ive only ran into one other fan and that was in 1990. if anyone did write an article about the character during that time they usually said it was a poor book. so it wont be any surprise to me if GR tanks.
now after saying that....i dont give a s^&* if it does tank. i could care less if it makes 1 buck at the theater or even if everyone here hates it. as long as i get to see a good GR movie...one that is true to the character and story....then ill be happy. it would be nice for GR to be a huge critical and financial hit but that would be icing on the cake as far as im concerned.
thats why i wont go and say it'll be a huge hit as to me the mainstream audience never took to the character so why would it be different now?
i would like to be wrong and see GR make it big finally but dont think it will happen.
i do recommend that people keep their expectations in check to how the movie will do. it will just sadden fans that were expecting GR to knock the other summer films out of the water and it doesnt. fans should be happy that after pretty much 33 years we are finally getting a GR movie. one that is true to the character, top of the line cgi, and has a well known actor in the lead.
as a bonus there will be at the least a fairly decent sized media push before the movie comes out including lots of merchandising and other goodies.
as a die hard fan i never thought i would see this happen and it still amazes me even after all the news that has come out so far. 2006 will be our year folks....so enjoy it while you can

[mongoro]

Well for me like Ive said in preveous posts Ghost Rider will do well at the box office next year just my gut feeling. Id have to say it will draw at least 90+% of motorcycle riders around the world to see it and the fact Sony realy is excited about the script ect. Ive been hooked on Gr since about 1975.

[Seeker]

If it´s like the script I saw, it will be, at least, thrilling.

[Mr Nick]

Ive been hooked on Gr since about 1975.

Coolness! Can you remember how his scrap with Jaws turned out? Since Flamehead posted the cover of the issue, I've been dying to know.

;)

[Riding Ghost]

I can't help but think that although what BG said is likely, that it is just as likely that this could be huge. I really think that a lot of this movie is gonna be stuff people haven't seen before in a way not shown before. I think it is very possible that the second week box office could double the first week due to word of mouth. Of course I could be wrong, could all be wishful thinking....we will see

[HerosOnFilm]

Not to be downer, but I just saw the trailer, and I have to say...it looks weak. I hope I'm wrong. Does every Marvel movie have to have the main character say something stupid tongue-in-cheek? "I feel like my skull's on fire"? That's right up there with "Reed....always stretching..."

I hope the movie will have a serious tone, the teaser seemed like a bunch of lightheartedness...too much trying to be clever or funny. You can't deny it's a great cast, with Cage, Sam Elliot (wow, two Marvel movies under his belt) and Wes Bentley, but the teaser left much to be desired for me.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Not to be downer, but I just saw the trailer, and I have to say...it looks weak. I hope I'm wrong. Does every Marvel movie have to have the main character say something stupid tongue-in-cheek? "I feel like my skull's on fire"? That's right up there with "Reed....always stretching..."

I hope the movie will have a serious tone, the teaser seemed like a bunch of lightheartedness...too much trying to be clever or funny. You can't deny it's a great cast, with Cage, Sam Elliot (wow, two Marvel movies under his belt) and Wes Bentley, but the teaser left much to be desired for me.

Get used to it. Even Batman had some of those moments. Would you say it screwed up anything for the movie? There needs to be a chuckle every once in a while. This movie is going to be labeled Marvel's first horror movie. The teaser you saw was not supposed to even be released. Go read some of the posts from MSJ and you will understand.

[Carter]

I trust Nic Cage.
He's a huge comic book fan, and I don't think he'd put time and effort into a crappy script.

[Seeker]

Not to be downer, but I just saw the trailer, and I have to say...it looks weak. I hope I'm wrong. Does every Marvel movie have to have the main character say something stupid tongue-in-cheek? "I feel like my skull's on fire"? That's right up there with "Reed....always stretching..."

Boy, they´re just being faithful to the source. Tongue-in-cheek, after all, is Stan Lee´s middle name.

BTW, judging by the trailer, I noticed that the Ghost Rider movie will have lots of funny moments.

[FlameHead]

What I find interesting, and quite unique from most of the other superhero movies, is that the ratio to people saying good things to those saying bad is quite unbalanced. For every 20 people, it seems only 1 is saying something negative. Now, this could be because not a lot of people are chattin' about the flick yet... but, I think like to think that most do have faith and most are really excited about it.

[Cromartie]

I also have complete faith in this film too as of MSJ too. It wasn't his fault that fox hacked up the Daredevil film. I just hope this film isn't hacked up for some weird reason.

[HerosOnFilm]

Hey, I like MSJ...I actually liked DD. Of course, this is just a teaser, albeit one that shouldn't have been released, but hopefully the movie will have more of a serious tone to it. I'm not adverse to comic relief now and then, but that specific trailer seemed too full of it.

Also, if the ratio is 20 positive to 1 negative, I'm happy to be the negative...it keeps our movie creators in check. MSJ reads these boards for a reason, no?

[Caliber]

I have faith this will be great. I just hate those people who use DD as an excuse to complain.

[Mr Nick]

Well, no-one has a crystal ball. Who knows how it'll turn out.

Personally though, I'm optimistic because the Daredevil Director's Cut (the way it was before MSJ was forced to chop it up) was excellent and Ghost Rider is a very cool and interesting character who stands out from most other superheroes.

I honestly believe once they release a proper, polished, exciting trailer and put that striking image of the badass biker with the burning skull on billboards along with Nic Cage's name, interest in the film will shoot up and so will the probability of it being a big hit.

:ghost:

[batman 833]

well don't get me wrong, i have confidence on MSJ and i know he doesn't want this movie to be seen as an horror flick therefore he's putting some one liners and funny stuff in it just to make it lighter, i just hope that the comedic scenes and one liners don't take away the overall seriousness of the movie and that the action and tension moments are really dark. one more thing, am i the only one that would like that fat goth chick removed from the movie?, she's so annoying, and she desperately needs acting classes.

[HerosOnFilm]

See, now that's what I mean, the reporter interviewing the goth chick annoyed me. It's those types of lighthearted scenes that makes me want to puke. Give me the Spirit of Vengeance, give me a tough, a$$ kicking Ghost Rider with a scary as hell penance stare. Keep the funny lines to a minimum.

[RedIsNotBlue]

See, now that's what I mean, the reporter interviewing the goth chick annoyed me. It's those types of lighthearted scenes that makes me want to puke. Give me the Spirit of Vengeance, give me a tough, a$$ kicking Ghost Rider with a scary as hell penance stare. Keep the funny lines to a minimum.

I agree with you on the goth girl being interviewed scene. I just don't like it. But everything else in the trailer was superb.

[BURNFOREVER]

I agree with you on the goth girl being interviewed scene. I just don't like it. But everything else in the trailer was superb.

You´re totally right.
Bad scene, unnecessary.
At least if they cast a cool looking goth girl...
That Rebel Wilson is...jeez, nevermind.:down :down :down :down :down

[Salemdog]

I think it's not so much a lack of faith as it is worrying on the outcome. Some are directors are hit and miss and people tend to look at the lesser instead of the greater. Case in point with Ratner and X-3. People are looking at Rush Hour and music videos and forgetting Red Dragon.


Now I admit that MSJ makes me a bit nervous. He's done some good work with directing on Simon Birch and while the director's cut on DD was better it still was far from great. His screenplays are a roll of the dice too. With Jack Frost and Elektra being nothing short of terrible while Grumpy Old Men and Simon Birch were a cut above.

With GR he has both writing and directing credits again as with DD. I'm hoping he's learned from past mistakes and brings forth the effort that was hindered on DD and makes GR one of those cut above flicks.

[FlameHead]

I'm not with you guys on the Rebel Wilson thing. I really liked the scene and thought it was quite funny. Rebel is not a bad actor. Her delivery was supposed to be like that and I'm sure she was directed to do so.

I've talked about this before in her thread; http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166789

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think it's not so much a lack of faith as it is worrying on the outcome. Some are directors are hit and miss and people tend to look at the lesser instead of the greater. Case in point with Ratner and X-3. People are looking at Rush Hour and music videos and forgetting Red Dragon.


Now I admit that MSJ makes me a bit nervous. He's done some good work with directing on Simon Birch and while the director's cut on DD was better it still was far from great. His screenplays are a roll of the dice too. With Jack Frost and Elektra being nothing short of terrible while Grumpy Old Men and Simon Birch were a cut above.

With GR he has both writing and directing credits again as with DD. I'm hoping he's learned from past mistakes and brings forth the effort that was hindered on DD and makes GR one of those cut above flicks.

Red Dragon sucked compared to Manhunter.

[LordSimen]

Get used to it. Even Batman had some of those moments. Would you say it screwed up anything for the movie? There needs to be a chuckle every once in a while. This movie is going to be labeled Marvel's first horror movie. The teaser you saw was not supposed to even be released. Go read some of the posts from MSJ and you will understand.


*Sigh.* My how we all seem to have forgotten Blade. :(

[RedIsNotBlue]

*Sigh.* My how we all seem to have forgotten Blade. :(

Yeah sorry. Slipped my mind.

[Salemdog]

Red Dragon sucked compared to Manhunter.

You forgot IMO, right? But then some like style over substance.

[Salemdog]

*Sigh.* My how we all seem to have forgotten Blade. :(

And Man-Thing as well. Bad or not it was definately horror stylized.

[RedIsNotBlue]

You forgot IMO, right? But then some like style over substance.

Anyone who has seen Manhunter would probably agree with me.

[RedIsNotBlue]

And Man-Thing as well. Bad or not it was definately horror stylized.

Please do not mention that movie. It didn't happen.

[Salemdog]

Anyone who has seen Manhunter would probably agree with me.

Did and don't. Hell..I saw it at the theaters, same with Red Dragon.Two different films based on the same book. But Manhunter is more about Will Graham while Red Dragon is more about Francis Dollarhyde. Peterson was awesome in the first and Fines in the second. Liked em both.

[Vartha]

*Sigh.* My how we all seem to have forgotten Blade. :(
Or the poorly done Man-Thing movie? I liked the look of Man-Thing, but, there were WAY to many unneeded sceens.

[FlameHead]

I still havent' seen that movie yet. I wonder if they'll ever release it on DVD...

[RedIsNotBlue]

I still havent' seen that movie yet. I wonder if they'll ever release it on DVD...

You not missing ANYTHING...trust me. You check out the Spawn series yet?

[Vartha]

I still havent' seen that movie yet. I wonder if they'll ever release it on DVD...
I recorded it off of Sci fi. They are supposed to release it, but, the question is when.

[RedIsNotBlue]

I recorded it off of Sci fi. They are supposed to release it, but, the question is when.

Hopefully they will burn the original so no living thing ever has to see it again.

[Red Mask]

This movie will make a great addition to the Marvel films.

[FlameHead]

Yes... Yes it will.

You not missing ANYTHING...trust me. You check out the Spawn series yet?

No, I haven't had the chance to yet actually. I haven't been to the video store in a while actually. I may go tonight now that you've reminded me about it...

[antariksh]

So any thing cool happening after that trailer that came online for GR???

[webhead731]

Yeah. All the hype about it is pretty cool.

[ShadowBoxing]

And I am with you. Finally a faithful and just adaption of a superhero film....seems on par (in terms of accuracy) with Superman...the story, they just lifted it out of the comic....appaulse for them.

[antariksh]

GREAT.

I have watched X3 four times and the trailer was attached to it each time I went to watch.

The reaction of the audience was very good.

Adults were like "interesting", kids were like "hey that is cool, awesome, i will watch it for sure", teenagers were like "That was awesome dude"

OVERALL very positive reaction all the four times.

AND BTW I realized the SFX looks much better on the big screen than watching the trailers on computer.