Batman and Superman

[Darkred]

I was thinking, wouldn't it be cool if there was a scene with batman and superman in future movies of the current franchaises (sorry for bad spelling). This scene(5 mins) would feature at the end in both BB3 and superman3 at the end or something (both movies would have to come out in the same year and have a connecting storyline). Nolan and Singer would direct the scene together and think about how much money both movies would make. Every would want to see this.
I thought of this because everyone wants to see bats(BALE) and superman(ROUTH) together but its unlikely they will have a whole movie about them. Or if the story of both movies are completely different, they could just film an extra dialouge scene in thier DVD for the fans. I dont know..................What do you guys think.........

[Cinemaman]

With excellent script it would be exciting to see them both in one movie.

But I dont want Batman to be in Supes movie or Supes to be in Bat-movie, it would be stupid :mad:

[Darkred]

With excellent script it would be exciting to see them both in one movie.

But I dont want Batman to be in Supes movie or Supes to be in Bat-movie, it would be stupid :mad:



Cool. How about an extra scene, non related to the movie? Because i seriously doubt we will get movie with them.

[SpyderDan]

Cool. How about an extra scene, non related to the movie? Because i seriously doubt we will get movie with them.

We almost got a movie with both of them in it before Bale and Routh were anywhere near their characters. Then Wolfgang Peterson chickened out. It was probably for the best though.

[Two-Face]

Wolfgang Peterson didn't chickened out it was WB who wanted the solo projects and Peterson went on to make Troy instead before Nolan/Singer projects came in.

[AnimeJune]

Eh...maybe. I prefer name-dropping to actual cameos from other series. Most superhero movies tend to be rather isolated.

I mean, back in the day when "Batman vs Superman" was an actual possibility, that wouldn't even have been considered.

And what would they say?

Batman: "Oh...uh...hi."
Superman: "Hello."
Batman: "You...you know...you know you're wearing your underpants over your pants, right?"
Superman: "Yes. What of it?"
Batman: "So you know you're wearing your underpants over your pants? You know this? Do you know where you're supposed to wear underpants?"
Superman: "I am wearing it in the traditional fashion of my people, Batman."
Batman: "There's a whole people who don't know where wear underpants? Like - do your women wear their bras outside their shirst?"
Superman: "The women of my people do not wear bras."
Batman: "Oh - well hey. They sound pretty nice."
Superman: "They do not wear bras because they are all dead."
Batman: "Uh, wow. That was a little uncool to just drop that in there, this late in the game without telling me. You made me look like an ass."
Superman: "Rest assured, you look like an ass without requiring any of my help."
Batman: "Screw you, Superman." *fires grapling gun, swings away*

[Mr. Thing]

Brillaint, June! :D :up:

Thing is, I can totally imagine Bale and Routh saying that!

[Doc Holliday]

June, you forgot the line where Batman tells Superman there is still one girl of his people left...;)

[DV8]

June, you forgot the line where Batman tells Superman there is still one girl of his people left...;)

I don't get it . . . his mom?

Batman: "that's NOT what she said"

[Doc Holliday]

I'll give you a hint DV8, there is only one of his people left right?

[Dr. MIX]

(Psssst! It's Supergirl)

[AnimeJune]

June, you forgot the line where Batman tells Superman there is still one girl of his people left...;)
Batman: "What about that little blonde thing? You could tap that. I know I'd tap that."

Superman: "She's my cousin!"

Batman: "So? It's not like anyone's gonna make fun of your kids for having twelve toes or anything - anyone who does will get a faceful of eye-beams. Am I right?"

Superman: "I will take your idea into consideration."

[SpyderDan]

Wolfgang Peterson didn't chickened out it was WB who wanted the solo projects and Peterson went on to make Troy instead before Nolan/Singer projects came in.

Okay then. WB made the right call, don't you think?

[Katsuro]

I say if we ever get a Batman/Superman movie, they should hire AnimeJune to write it.

[AnimeJune]

Why thank you.

My current hope, however, is that the folks at Heroes for NBC ask me to write their scripts. I'd kill to be in on that, but for now, I have to settle for the Virtual Season here at Hype. :D

[elorenishii386]

Wolfgang Peterson didn't chickened out it was WB who wanted the solo projects and Peterson went on to make Troy instead before Nolan/Singer projects came in.

Wolfgang Peterson's script leaked online and it basically sucked. I remember that he did say in an interview in the N.Y. Daily News while promoting Troy, that he still wanted to direct the movie, but with Eric Bana as Bruce Wayne. He didn't want Bale in that role....another thing I don't like.
If there is a joint Superman/Batman project...there should be some one else brought in to write a new script and a different director. Peterson should not come close to this project.

[Doc Holliday]

(Psssst! It's Supergirl)

Actually, I was just calling Superman a girl because he wears his underwear inside-out. :)

Forgot about Supergirl. Course if Elisha Cuthbert plays her, I won't blame Supes for tapping that.

[wikum]

I've never been a fan of Supes so I hope it never ever happens.

An adult orientated manga style cartoon of Batman and Superman would be amazing though

[Wise]

Batman and Superman would not juxtapose right on screen.

In order for one to work on film you have to make the environment incredibly dark and gritty and have a verisimilitude type feel to the world.

The other requires fantasty and sci fi elements to work with bright hues and over the top epic feel to it.

In order to do have these characters together in a motion picture you'd have to do an entire movie which mixes both styles. That being said, it'd take ONE HELL OF A DIRECROR and crew to get that project right.

Film is a different medium to the comics. In the comics anything can work, because the entire medium is associated with fantastical stories. FIlm however is based on a more realistic style of storytelling.

[Ronny Shade]

When I make a Superman movie in 30 or so years, Batman will be in it

[Katsuro]

Actually, I was just calling Superman a girl because he wears his underwear inside-out. :)


ARe you implying that girls wear their underwear on the outside also? Why haven't I noticed this?! Must be an east coast thing...

[Doc Holliday]

No, I'm just making an excuse to calling Supes a chick.

Besides, I wouldn't know if it was an east coast thing. I live in Dallas.

I wouldn't mind if it was a third coast thing, though.

[bdsproductions]

Batman: "What about that little blonde thing? You could tap that. I know I'd tap that."

Superman: "She's my cousin!"

Batman: "So? It's not like anyone's gonna make fun of your kids for having twelve toes or anything - anyone who does will get a faceful of eye-beams. Am I right?"

Superman: "I will take your idea into consideration."

AnimeJune Warner Bros must hire you or die!.

[Batty for Bats!]

Heh. that made my morning. :):up: Batman's such a horndog.

[Ronny Shade]

Batman and Superman would not juxtapose right on screen.

In order for one to work on film you have to make the environment incredibly dark and gritty and have a verisimilitude type feel to the world.

The other requires fantasty and sci fi elements to work with bright hues and over the top epic feel to it.

In order to do have these characters together in a motion picture you'd have to do an entire movie which mixes both styles. That being said, it'd take ONE HELL OF A DIRECROR and crew to get that project right.

Film is a different medium to the comics. In the comics anything can work, because the entire medium is associated with fantastical stories. FIlm however is based on a more realistic style of storytelling.



Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan both qualify as "one hell of a director."
I'm sure there's someone else out there who can pull it off as well.

But his name is probably not Wolfgang Peterson.

[kytrigger]

Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan both qualify as "one hell of a director."
I'm sure there's someone else out there who can pull it off as well.

But his name is probably not Wolfgang Peterson.

Uwe Boll?

[Ronny Shade]

yes Uwe Boll would be perfect



honestly, how does that man still get work?

[AnimeJune]

yes Uwe Boll would be perfect



honestly, how does that man still get work?Uwe Boll? But uwes don't have bolls - rams do.

Seriously though, if he can screw up BloodRayne, I wouldn't want him anywhere near any comic adapation. Even UnderDog. That dude touches UnderDog I will chop his hand off.

Edit: By the way, 800th post, y'all.

[Rynan]

Seriously though, if he can screw up BloodRayne, I wouldn't want him anywhere near any comic adapation. Even UnderDog. That dude touches UnderDog I will chop his hand off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/uwe_bollenemy.jpg

[AnimeJune]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/uwe_bollenemy.jpgHuh, straight nose, all his teeth, it looks like no one's ever punched him in the face at all. That makes no sense.

[Ronny Shade]

maybe he's been castrated

[Anjow1060]

A think they should do something like this -
Batman 4 - Mr. Freeze
Batman 5 - Bane/No Man's Land/Ra's Returns
Batman 6 - NML/Lex Shows up to get his hands on Gotham and Sups shows up to help out.......just like the comics baby

[DrMylesOBoogie]

Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan both qualify as "one hell of a director."
I'm sure there's someone else out there who can pull it off as well.

But his name is probably not Wolfgang Peterson.Peterson is a much better director then Singer.

[Ronny Shade]

I've never seen a Wolfgang Peterson movie that I liked. Please point me to one that you believe is good.

[Two-Face]

Okay then. WB made the right call, don't you think?

Of course, I don't want Batman vs Superman movie anyway and I rather have franchises solo. like they do it now.:up:

[kenellard]

Batman and Superman would not juxtapose right on screen.

In order for one to work on film you have to make the environment incredibly dark and gritty and have a verisimilitude type feel to the world.

The other requires fantasty and sci fi elements to work with bright hues and over the top epic feel to it.

In order to do have these characters together in a motion picture you'd have to do an entire movie which mixes both styles. That being said, it'd take ONE HELL OF A DIRECROR and crew to get that project right.

Film is a different medium to the comics. In the comics anything can work, because the entire medium is associated with fantastical stories. FIlm however is based on a more realistic style of storytelling.



blah blah blah *insert buzzword* blah blah blah. man, this really irritates me about the new Batman franchise, it seems to have sucked all fantasy elements out of batman. It's a simple fact that bats and superman have co-existed in the same universe for over half a century, and now with all this "realism" jive everyone seems to be against the two ever meeting up on film. Batman isn't real, and never could exist in the real world, so why should the character be brought down to our level? I say superheroes han exist quite easily in their own universe, it's only when we try to apply our own rationale to these characters that things get screwed up, and even longtime fans don't know what they want anymore

[Ronny Shade]

I believe that Nolan did the right thing to make Batman's origins grounded in reality.

However, if they shun the supernatural and the science fiction for the whole franchise, that will be a mistake.

[kenellard]

exactly, If he ignores the rest of the DCU, then this franchise will be in reality an elseworlds series, so to speak

[Ronny Shade]

most comic movies ignore the rest of the universe. Batman and the rest of the DCU heroes were nowhere to be scene in the old Superman Movies. Daredevil made no mention of Spider-Man or the X-Men.

My problem is more in the fact that a bunch of Batman's excellent rogues are a bit too "weird" to be in a "realistic" universe. Man-Bat, Bane, Poison Ivy, Etrigan, etc.

[kenellard]

My sollution there would be to alter the nature of the universe, who says it has to be "realistic"? It's a guy dressed up as a bat that fights crime!

[kenellard]

I believe there's a happy medium between begins and say, forever. whereby it's still batman, yet still believable (to an extent)

[Two-Face]

Yes, having nipples on a rubber suit :o

[AnimeJune]

My sollution there would be to alter the nature of the universe, who says it has to be "realistic"? It's a guy dressed up as a bat that fights crime!Yes, but you also forget that the other heroes, and the film rights of them, aren't all owned by the same studios. Spider-Man's owned by Sony, the Fantastic Four by Fox, etc. It's probably a violation of copyright law to have them both in the same movie. That's why.

Besides - realism adds drama. Ever hear the saying "truth is stranger than fiction"? True, there's never been a Batman, but what Nolan's trying to portray with his films is that, theoretically, if a man was rich, crazy, and trained enough - he could possibly because a caped crimefighter.

By all means, keep the science fiction stuff - but don't add Batman's world to Superman's in film. Nor magic - most films do without magic and aliens.

1) Superman's boring - why? Because he has no limitations, so there's no real conflict without having to bring space aliens into it.
2) Superhero movies are aimed at GENERAL AUDIENCES, not just comic book fans. They can't overwhelm the audiences with information they may not necessarily have spent their lives reading, like fanboys.

Like how in Xmen 3 they made Phoenix an alternate personality instead of a world-devouring space alien? Same reason - too much information at once.

3) What would be the point? Batman and Superman are on entirely different superhero levels - they fight different levels of crime. Batman is local, Superman is global. It wouldn't fit.

[kenellard]

cheap-o comebacks now? jeez. I would've said returns or batman '89 but I think that's a type of batman only tim burton could possibly pull off, so I went for the lesser of two evils (or "the one schumacher made that is physically possible to watch")

[Ronny Shade]

Superman is not boring.

Not when done correctly, anyway

[AnimeJune]

Superman is not boring.

Not when done correctly, anywayFair - but I've only read him done incorrectly, then.

"Nothing can hurt me, so let's see me go up against a sentient planet." *yawn*

[Ronny Shade]

watch Superman: The Animated Series

[AnimeJune]

watch Superman: The Animated SeriesWas it done by the same people who did Justice League?

[Mr. Thing]

Was it done by the same people who did Justice League?

Not the writing team.

[AnimeJune]

Not the writing team.Thank God - I might consider watching it then. :D

[Mr. Thing]

Thank God - I might consider watching it then. :D

It's really good. He's not the two dimensional character Superman's played out to be in some stuff.

[Two-Face]

Superman is goody too shoes all the time, not once i never seen him angry.

[Mr. Thing]

Superman is goody too shoes all the time, not once i never seen him angry.

Hahaha.

Wait...

Dude, you serious?

[Shoemeister]

I think it would be cool if WB somehow pitted the two of them together in a short film (definitely less than a half-hour). Perhaps release it on DVD, or even play it before a future Supes or Batman movie, just make it not relate to either film. It'd be great to see Routh and Bale working together, kind of like Sandy Collora's "World's Finest".

I wouldn't want to see it as an actual 2-hour MOTION PICTURE however. The short film idea though, would be nice. A little treat for WB to maybe think about in the future.

[Two-Face]

I guess I am.

[Mr. Thing]

I guess I am.

Dude, you need to read more Superman stuff.

[raybia]

I've never seen a Wolfgang Peterson movie that I liked. Please point me to one that you believe is good.


Das Boot, In the line of Fire.

Also the Perfect Storm and Air Force One.

[Two-Face]

Dude, you need to read more Superman stuff.


The only Superman comic I kind of read was "Superman for All seasons" by Jeph Loeb and didn't finish book. After that I watched the movies but I'm more interested in Batman.

[thedarks0ldier]

Superman Birthright is my favorite Superman Story, I strongly recommend it. I am not a huge Superman comic fan, but Birthright is just something you cant afford to miss.

[Two-Face]

Superman Birthright is my favorite Superman Story, I strongly recommend it. I am not a huge Superman comic fan, but Birthright is just something you cant afford to miss.


Is that kind of "Superman: Year One"?

[AnimeJune]

Das Boot, In the line of Fire.

Also the Perfect Storm and Air Force One.I liked Air Force One, and the new Poseidon isn't bad.

But Troy was AWFUL. Just awful - it didn't follow the history or the mythology! And Orlando's character plumbed the absolute depths of cowardice.

[Ronny Shade]

Das Boot, In the line of Fire.

Also the Perfect Storm and Air Force One.
I shall investigate

[Steelsheen]

i think MTV nabbed the rights to the World's Finest

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8219/mmm55ti.jpg


;)

[Ronny Shade]

Bale looks so bummy in that pic, lol

[AnimeJune]

Bale looks so bummy in that pic, lolDidn't even know that was him until you said so.

Thanks for the spoilers, by the way - we Canucks don't see the Movie Awards until the 10th. :(

[Ronny Shade]

I haven't seen them either

[wikum]

Uwe Boll for Joker.

[Steelsheen]

Bale looks so bummy in that pic, lol

consider it as Bruce Wayne going undercover ;)

[DrMylesOBoogie]

I've never seen a Wolfgang Peterson movie that I liked. Please point me to one that you believe is good.Das Boot, The Never Ending Story, Troy, Air Force One, Enemy Mine, The Perfect Storm and Poseidon are all excellent pictures.

[Ronny Shade]

Troy sucked balls. But I haven't seen any of those other ones

[Capt Throbberson]

i think MTV nabbed the rights to the World's Finest

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8219/mmm55ti.jpg


;)
How tall is Routh?

[Avernus]

this was put up as news on batman on film...

and Routh has to be at least 6'4" if Bale is 6'2"

[Katsuro]

Who would win in a fight? Bale or Routh? And lets say they're each at the physical state of when they filmed their respective Superhero movies.

[Avernus]

Who would win in a fight? Bale or Routh? And lets say they're each at the physical state of when they filmed their respective Superhero movies.

Routh is taller....but he just wouldn't scare me...

Bale is grittier and has fangs.....

my money's on Bale here....lower center of gravity...which makes him quicker than the lankier Routh...

[gdw]

I was just watching Firewall, which I rather enjoyed, and I do not know why it did not do better, and I realised that if there was a DKR movie done around now, Ford is probably the only guy who could do it.

And Bettney kicks ass as usual.

Any who, the point is, it got me thinking, IF they ever did a B&S film (hehe just noticed that, BS) I think it should be something like DKR mixed with the script that was done for Peterson's film.

Basically taking the two and merging them so that the peterson script elements that were NOt like the books are removed, and there could be ore focus on BOTH characters then there is in DKR (not that DKR should be any different as it is a bat's story, but for a BvsS film, wellm you know.

I think that this is one of the best ways for it to play out.

It would like DKR in how Begins had a lot of Year One in it. But I like how both of those works managed to pit Bats and Supes against eachother. Neither was so much the bad guy as it was their differences and the extenuating circumstances.

[Avernus]

I was just watching Firewall, which I rather enjoyed, and I do not know why it did not do better, and I realised that if there was a DKR movie done around now, Ford is probably the only guy who could do it.

And Bettney kicks ass as usual.

Any who, the point is, it got me thinking, IF they ever did a B&S film (hehe just noticed that, BS) I think it should be something like DKR mixed with the script that was done for Peterson's film.

Basically taking the two and merging them so that the peterson script elements that were NOt like the books are removed, and there could be ore focus on BOTH characters then there is in DKR (not that DKR should be any different as it is a bat's story, but for a BvsS film, wellm you know.

I think that this is one of the best ways for it to play out.

It would like DKR in how Begins had a lot of Year One in it. But I like how both of those works managed to pit Bats and Supes against eachother. Neither was so much the bad guy as it was their differences and the extenuating circumstances.

I didn't think firewall was that great...it was pretty good....but my expectations weren't that high to begin with...

[DA Harvey Dent]

Currently with Nolan's realism, batman & superman/ batman v. superman just won't work. However, in the future when the franchises are reimagined again - it would be cool to see them onscreen together.

[thedarks0ldier]

I dont see how it couldnt work. Why, because Superman can fly and has super powers? Because Aliens exists in this? If the general public was able to ignore the fact that freaking Ninjas are actually terrorists and that they still wear very traditional Ninja Armor and have a hidden base and that a Batmobile can fly on rooftops then I am sure they can accepted an Alien living with them.

[AnimeJune]

Who would win in a fight? Bale or Routh? And lets say they're each at the physical state of when they filmed their respective Superhero movies.Bale - cause he's got Liam Neeson at his back. NO ONE overcomes the Neeson, man. Dude's the Irish Giant.

[bdsproductions]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/Rynan/uwe_bollenemy.jpg


yo,DAMN he is as ugly as he is stupid.

[bdsproductions]

Fair - but I've only read him done incorrectly, then.

"Nothing can hurt me, so let's see me go up against a sentient planet." *yawn*

well,actually he gets his ass kicked regularlly without Kryptinite,he blames himself for every murder,terrorist attack etc.

[Katsuro]

yo,DAMN he is as ugly as he is stupid.

Actually, the ironic thing is Uwe Boll is technically a genius (althought boy do i despise him). His movies are bad on purpose, and he acts like an idiot in public with the intention of making people hate him. Through some German tax loopholes, the worse his movies are, the more money he makes. Think of the scheme in "The Producers". This was always a suspicion, but it's pretty much been confirmed by the fact that as soon as they closed the loophole, he announced he'd stop making video game films (video games were easy to acquire the rights to). The loophole still applies to any movie he's officially announced yet, however. But hopefully, as soon as these movies are all done, we'll be free of his crap from now on. He'll actually have to try to make money now.

[AnimeJune]

well,actually he gets his ass kicked regularlly without Kryptinite,he blames himself for every murder,terrorist attack etc.Yeah? And how many regular joes get their hands on Kryptonite regularly? Huh? Only the biggest, richest, most flamboyant ones. I like Batman more, because he does the local stuff, and he has to face off against EVERYONE, even the super-powered ones, and he still succeeds. It's no challenge for Superman.

[Ronny Shade]

Actually, the ironic thing is Uwe Boll is technically a genius (althought boy do i despise him). His movies are bad on purpose, and he acts like an idiot in public with the intention of making people hate him. Through some German tax loopholes, the worse his movies are, the more money he makes. Think of the scheme in "The Producers". This was always a suspicion, but it's pretty much been confirmed by the fact that as soon as they closed the loophole, he announced he'd stop making video game films (video games were easy to acquire the rights to). The loophole still applies to any movie he's officially announced yet, however. But hopefully, as soon as these movies are all done, we'll be free of his crap from now on. He'll actually have to try to make money now.
you're not serious

[drknight]

Superman is goody too shoes all the time, not once i never seen him angry.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7462/snap12ts.jpg

[Ronny Shade]

That was a great book

[bdsproductions]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7462/snap12ts.jpg


PWNED.

[CConn]

you're not seriousNo, it's true.

Uwe Boll is a ****ing genius.

[TALON]

Sounds like a cool idea to me. It's a win-win situation.

[AnimeJune]

That was a great bookDid they do that on Justice League? With the flower that had purple tentacles and teeth coming out of it? And Superman had a son and a dog and his parents were alive?

[Doc Holliday]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7462/snap12ts.jpg

I like that it says "shizzit" as the sound effect.

Pretty awesome.

[Steelsheen]

Did they do that on Justice League? With the flower that had purple tentacles and teeth coming out of it? And Superman had a son and a dog and his parents were alive?

yeah all of that but they just showed Jor-El.