Evidence Bush knew 9-11 would happen and did nothing.Deal with it non believers.

[JLBats]

haha, I'm always amused at how bat-**** crazy some people are

I think it's the Internet. It's weird, because when you're alone in your basement typing, crazy thoughts become sane thoughts, and shaky evidence found on fringe websites become the only things you can trust.

It's weird, because for weeks I'll lie awake at night thinking "What if this **** is true?" Then I'll go out to a party and suddenly those thoughts, those stupid, completely fanciful moronic thoughts you've been giving credence to because of fringe websites, those thoughts that seemed terribly important while you were sitting at your computer typing... suddenly seem utterly stupid, irrelevent and childish when you'rel living your life.

It's sort of like that Eon8 countdown clock online experiment, where the web designer discovered that people online reacted to a lack of information by searching for every clue that could possibly make the website something sinister... Some people thought the clock was counting down to the release of a new online virus, others thought it was counting down to a world wide terrorist attack... Hell, some people thought it was counting down to a massive alien invasion or apocalypse.

But in the end, it turned out to be the most utterly mundane answer: Some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design made the site to see how people online would react. All of the iconography found on the site turned out to be coincidental. The vague sense of menace turned out to be manufactured by a paranoid Internet populace. The web designer who created the site said it best: We cannot allow empty paranoia and manufactured menace to run our lives. We cannot indict a government on suspicion and fringe websites. And ultimately, in what I consider the most apt metaphor for the whole conspiracism worldview, we cannot suspect the apocalypse when it is ultimately just some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design.

"To me, a mark of maturity is realizing that nobody runs the world. Fat-cat politicians and secret conspiracies don’t control our lives. In reality, the world is much more complex than that. The people who seem to have a lock on power get swept out in a couple of years. So it’s naïve to keep swinging at the same targets over and over. It took me a long time to realize, but most of the shackles that I flailed against were just illusory."-George Meyer

[Carter]

I think it's the Internet. It's weird, because when you're alone in your basement typing, crazy thoughts become sane thoughts, and shaky evidence found on fringe websites become the only things you can trust.

It's weird, because for weeks I'll lie awake at night thinking "What if this **** is true?" Then I'll go out to a party and suddenly those thoughts, those stupid, completely fanciful moronic thoughts you've been giving credence to because of fringe websites, those thoughts that seemed terribly important while you were sitting at your computer typing... suddenly seem utterly stupid, irrelevent and childish when you'rel living your life.

It's sort of like that Eon8 countdown clock online experiment, where the web designer discovered that people online reacted to a lack of information by searching for every clue that could possibly make the website something sinister... Some people thought the clock was counting down to the release of a new online virus, others thought it was counting down to a world wide terrorist attack... Hell, some people thought it was counting down to a massive alien invasion or apocalypse.

But in the end, it turned out to be the most utterly mundane answer: Some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design made the site to see how people online would react. All of the iconography found on the site turned out to be coincidental. The vague of menace turned out to be manufactured by a paranoid Internet populace. The web designer who created the site said it best: We cannot allow empty paranoia and manufactured menace to run our lives. We cannot indict a government on suspicion and fringe websites. And ultimately, in what I consider the most apt metaphor for the whole conspiracism worldview, we cannot suspect the apocalypse when it is ultimately just some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design.

"To me, a mark of maturity is realizing that nobody runs the world. Fat-cat politicians and secret conspiracies don’t control our lives. In reality, the world is much more complex than that. The people who seem to have a lock on power get swept out in a couple of years. So it’s naïve to keep swinging at the same targets over and over. It took me a long time to realize, but most of the shackles that I flailed against were just illusory."-George Meyer

I know exactly what you mean. After spending enough time looking at some of this "evidence" you start to question reality. But once I leave my isolated room and shut off my computer I realize how ridiculous all of it is.

I'll accept the theory of Occam's razor any day over humanoid reptilian world conquest.

[Truthteller]

It sounds like it is you that wants the new world order Flamehead, eh?

It just seems to me that you are making an awful lot of assumptions.

Also, it seems that you want to tie this change in direction to a specific political philosophy and indeed a specific political party; Canada Green, or USA Democrat. Strictly Liberal philosophy. That begs the question of your political motivations.

I could be wrong though, that I freely admit. And I am not trying to insult you, but merely to discuss.

Further, just to be clear. I am not allied with ANY political party. I take issues on a case by case basis. I am philosophically conservative about some things, I am liberal about others, but I do not owe alliegence to any political party.

I value freedom above all. I do not think the USA is anywhere near some dreaded "police state" - although I readily admit that I want our laws enforced so that the streets might be kept safe for my children and friends. Just like any good superhero would.

[JLBats]

Also, it seems that you want to tie this change in direction to a specific political philosophy and indeed a specific political party; Canada Green, or USA Democrat. Strictly Liberal philosophy. That begs the question of your political motivations.

I feel this way too. Notice he demonizes Stephen Harper as the tool of the New World Order, but not Paul Martin or Jean Chretien.

[Mentok]

Okay I have seen a lot of people here post who dont want to know the truth and who refuse to take the blinders off and and acknowledge that 9-11 was indeed an inside job hatched by our own government and that George Bush had prior knowledge it would indeed happen,allowed it to happen and did NOTHING to try and stop it.The CIA trained the terrorists into hijacking the plane,Bush was warned by FBI agents it was going to happen but threatened them with arrest if they tried to stop it.Attorney General John Ashcroft told David Schippers a chicago based lawyer to go away when he told him he had FBI agents that had evidence they knew it was going to happen.They were banging on his door begging him to take a look at it and he did not want to listen.People around here though have turned a blind eye to all that though despite the fact alec Jones has documented in his two great videos he has that its all true with 9-11 the road to tyranny and Martial Law and the fact that he has a section on his website called prior knowledge that documents George Bushs knowledge it was going to happen at www.infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com) well here is ANOTHER website that has overwhelming proof that Bush had prior knowledge that it would happen and debunks you naysayers who refuse to listen to the truth on this issue.Just go to www.johnkaminski.com (http://www.johnkaminski.com) and order his book for just $6.00 called The Day America Died.

yes folks it WAS staged by our own government and Bush DID know it was going to happen and wanted it to happen.Bush,Clinton,and the CIA,they're all in on it together.They have been long time buddies and pals with each other and both have CIA connections.

BLAH BLAH BLAH, EVERYONE IS BLIND BECAUSE THEY LISTEN TO THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA... NOW LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND ON THE INTERNET :o

[JLBats]

I think it's the Internet. It's weird, because when you're alone in your basement typing, crazy thoughts become sane thoughts, and shaky evidence found on fringe websites become the only things you can trust.

It's weird, because for weeks I'll lie awake at night thinking "What if this **** is true?" Then I'll go out to a party and suddenly those thoughts, those stupid, completely fanciful moronic thoughts you've been giving credence to because of fringe websites, those thoughts that seemed terribly important while you were sitting at your computer typing... suddenly seem utterly stupid, irrelevent and childish when you'rel living your life.

It's sort of like that Eon8 countdown clock online experiment, where the web designer discovered that people online reacted to a lack of information by searching for every clue that could possibly make the website something sinister... Some people thought the clock was counting down to the release of a new online virus, others thought it was counting down to a world wide terrorist attack... Hell, some people thought it was counting down to a massive alien invasion or apocalypse.

But in the end, it turned out to be the most utterly mundane answer: Some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design made the site to see how people online would react. All of the iconography found on the site turned out to be coincidental. The vague sense of menace turned out to be manufactured by a paranoid Internet populace. The web designer who created the site said it best: We cannot allow empty paranoia and manufactured menace to run our lives. We cannot indict a government on suspicion and fringe websites. And ultimately, in what I consider the most apt metaphor for the whole conspiracism worldview, we cannot suspect the apocalypse when it is ultimately just some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design.

"To me, a mark of maturity is realizing that nobody runs the world. Fat-cat politicians and secret conspiracies don’t control our lives. In reality, the world is much more complex than that. The people who seem to have a lock on power get swept out in a couple of years. So it’s naïve to keep swinging at the same targets over and over. It took me a long time to realize, but most of the shackles that I flailed against were just illusory."-George Meyer

It's two in the morning, so my judgement is faulty, but this post is beautiful. It shines. It makes me happy whn I am very sad on a particularlu rainy day .

[Super Flight]

this thread is getting to smart for me

[Super Flight]

so who are the people behind the inside job again??... bush, dick chenny and who else?

[Truthteller]

lol

I suspect maybe I'm one of them too at this point! :eek:

[Addendum]

so who are the people behind the inside job again??... bush, dick chenny and who else?
http://www.freemason-wa.org/IMAGES/2005-06%20elected%20GLO.jpg
Fear the old guys with aprons :p

[Super Flight]

I cant believe Bush said this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5356028356890054402

[JLBats]

I think I'd take some of these things a bit more seriously if Bush hadn't jokingly made such comments.

[Super Flight]

HOLLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!! :eek: NO WAY NO ****ING WAY!!!!!!!!! :eek: I CANT BELIEVE IT, THIS IS SOME SCARY ****!!!!:eek:

WATCH THE ENTIRE THING PLEASE!!:eek:

I Dint Know this! :eek:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=775624453542988631

[JLBats]

Okay, the Bohemian Grove stuff kind of scares the **** out of me.

[Super Flight]

Bush is Part of the Skull and Bones who worship Death and Evil onto all humankind! how Horrible it that!! NOW i am 100% sure that 9/11 was an inside job, Hell They probably did it just for fun! those sick inhumane bastards!

[Addendum]

Look out, David Gergen is behind you.

What's scary about Bohemian Grove anyway?

[Super Flight]

World Leaders Around The Word Engage In Human Sacrafices! Ew!!! Dude!! Including Geroge BUsh and JOhn kerry!!

[JLBats]

To me, Bohemian Grove is mostly made up of a boy's club of people who go there, not really understanding the full satanic ritualism involved with the Grove. Most go because it's "The thing to do".

[JLBats]

World Leaders Around The Word Engage In Human Sacrafices! Ew!!! Dude!! Including Geroge BUsh and JOhn kerry!!

Mock. Mock.

[Super Flight]

But Bush does all that aswell!! so basically we have an bloodthrsty president

[JLBats]

Also, the creepy music over some of the Bohemian Grove stuff is just utter propaganda.

[Super Flight]

Ok i'm scared out of my mind... now i cant sleep...all because of bush and his stupid human sacrifice club

[Addendum]

To me, Bohemian Grove is mostly made up of a boy's club of people who go there, not really understanding the full satanic ritualism involved with the Grove. Most go because it's "The thing to do".
Dude, I'm an atheist. "satanic ritualism" carries as much weight with me as any other religion: none.

[JLBats]

Yeah, thanks Super Flight, you dumb ****, now I won't sleep for two weeks.

Good job:rolleyes:

[JLBats]

Dude, I'm an atheist. "satanic ritualism" carries as much weight with me as any other religion: none.

As am I, but it does mean something to the people commiting mock child sacrifice.

[Addendum]

I'm just taking a break from trying to beat the third boss in Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil.

This Alex Jones video is kinda amusing. Thanks :up:

As am I, but it does mean something to the people commiting mock child sacrifice.
And for those not involved, it means as much as mock trials, mock elections, and mock wars.

[Super Flight]

Yeah, thanks Super Flight, you dumb ****, now I won't sleep for two weeks.

Good job:rolleyes:

:eek: i'm gonna wet my self,

did you watch the rest of that video?? They are killing people, and Bush is a part of it :eek:

[JLBats]

I'm just taking a break from trying to beat the third boss in Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil.

This Alex Jones video is kinda amusing. Thanks :up:

Doesn't the scary music scare you?:confused:

[Super Flight]

i think denial is the best protection you can give yourself

[JLBats]

Be aware that Wilhelm has said all this Bohemian Grove stuff about a million times, so it probably won't affect most of us.

[Super Flight]

what was Wilhelm he saying

[JLBats]

Bohemian Grove, ass rape, Cathy O'Brien, Led Zeppelin.

[Super Flight]

jlbats what in the world are you talking about?

[Super Flight]

you know...the government can be spying on us right now, so i think we should stop talking before we get killed :eek: :(

[Addendum]

Doesn't the scary music scare you?:confused:
No :confused:

It's amusing. Just like that video someone posted a while back on here about microchips being the mark of the beast.

[FlameHead]

It sounds like it is you that wants the new world order Flamehead, eh?

It just seems to me that you are making an awful lot of assumptions.

Also, it seems that you want to tie this change in direction to a specific political philosophy and indeed a specific political party; Canada Green, or USA Democrat. Strictly Liberal philosophy. That begs the question of your political motivations.

I could be wrong though, that I freely admit. And I am not trying to insult you, but merely to discuss.

Further, just to be clear. I am not allied with ANY political party. I take issues on a case by case basis. I am philosophically conservative about some things, I am liberal about others, but I do not owe alliegence to any political party.

I value freedom above all. I do not think the USA is anywhere near some dreaded "police state" - although I readily admit that I want our laws enforced so that the streets might be kept safe for my children and friends. Just like any good superhero would.

It seems that I make a lot of assumptions but that's only because there's so much information and whether you want to believe nothing, some or all what I do, it's not my problem. I just think it's important that it's discussed.

My political party of choice as recently as the past election (which I ran as a Candidate here in Newfoundland) was the Green Party of Canada which does not stand on the left or the right. They are in the center. Regardless, my insistance with them as of late to at least discuss the events of 9/11, the North American Union or other related topics have proven futile which led me to the final belief that you cannot fight politics with politics.

Regardless, people have to realize that it's not a politcal party that is waging this war. In fact, these elite have created these political parties in an attempt to divide and conquer. The fact that say Bush and Kerry were both members of the same secret organziation (Skull and Bones) and both asked about it during the election only to laugh it off and move on is just one example of politcal parties not being anything of imortance.

[JLBats]

you know...the government can be spying on us right now, so i think we should stop talking before we get killed :eek: :(

Hahahaha. That's funny.

[Addendum]

you know...the government can be spying on us right now, so i think we should stop talking before we get killed :eek: :(
Say "David Gergen" 5 times whilst looking in a mirror holding an item signed by Karl Rove

[Super Flight]

We need to watch ourselfs, i dont want to die so young, I dont want to have my blood splurted on the monitor by an FBI agent

[FlameHead]

No :confused:

It's amusing. Just like that video someone posted a while back on here about microchips being the mark of the beast.

I don't know about the mark of the beast but RFD chips are very real and very probable to happen.

Also, did you know that all American citizens will have to carry an specialized ID card in 2008?

[JLBats]

We need to watch ourselfs, i dont want to die so young, I dont want to have my blood splurted on the monitor by an FBI agent

Dude, shutup. People talk about this crap online all the time. We're on page 21, here. No one is dead because of it.

[Super Flight]

I'm scared! I'm Scared!!

[FlameHead]

Again, just to make sure that everyone knows....

C-SPAN to Air Historic 9/11 Expose - July 29th

The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST).

[FlameHead]

I have over 40 videos/documentaries embedded on my blog dealing with the New World Order and The Illuminati.
http://canadawantsthetruth911relatedvideos.blogspot.com/

Check it out.

I also have 28 vids dealing specifically on 9/11 embedded there:
http://canadawantsthetruth911videos.blogspot.com/

Watch them all and then decide what you believe.

[JLBats]

Again, just to make sure that everyone knows....

C-SPAN to Air Historic 9/11 Expose - July 29th

The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST).

Seriously, what the hell, are you SumofGod?

[Addendum]

I don't know about the mark of the beast but RFD chips are very real and very probable to happen.

Also, did you know that all American citizens will have to carry an specialized ID card in 2008?
Along with bodily fluids being used as a method of payment for public transport as well?

[FlameHead]

Seriously, what the hell, are you SumofGod?

No. SumOfGod is not the only one on earth who has awaken. In fact, there are now many of us and many more to come.

[Super Flight]

I dont understand....whats the point of human scrifice! what would they gain for killing somone?? what is the purpose, just to be mean?? a game?? what!!

[JLBats]

No. SumOfGod is not the only one on earth who has awaken. In fact, there are now many of us and many more to come.

SumofGod also reposts info on every page. He's also Canadian.

[FlameHead]

Along with bodily fluids being used as a method of payment for public transport as well?

Look it up. Or would you prefere me to just give you the link to the information?
http://news.com.com/Senate+approves+electronic+ID+card+bill/2100-1028_3-5702505.html

Thats just one article.

[FlameHead]

I dont understand....whats the point of human scrifice! what would they gain for killing somone?? what is the purpose, just to be mean?? a game?? what!!

Who knows what these sick bastards truly want besides complete control.

[Super Flight]

i just dont understand why they do that...how horrible, and to think our president is in the group..

[FlameHead]

SumofGod also reposts info on every page. He's also Canadian.

Good for him.

I'm reposting this information because I feel it's important that people know that it's on and that they at least watch it.

[Super Flight]

Who was the guy who made that video and snuck in and video tapped the thing?

[JLBats]

Mock.

[FlameHead]

Who was the guy who made that video and snuck in and video tapped the thing?

Alex Jones. He has several documentaries and has been reporting the actions of the global elite for many years now. In fact, this man predicted and warned that 9/11 was going to happen 4 months before it did.

[Addendum]

So...

what should my reaction be?

[Super Flight]

So...

what should my reaction be?

Scared out of your Pants!! :eek:

[FlameHead]

So...

what should my reaction be?

I'm not looking for reactions. I'm looking to spread information that's not talked about often and perhaps open a few eyes while I'm doing so.

[Super Flight]

Mock.

why ya keep saying that

[JLBats]

why ya keep saying that

Do you know what "mock" means? As in mock sacrifices or mock trials?

[Super Flight]

no, what does it mean?

[FlameHead]

Scared out of your Pants!! :eek:

NO worries Super. No need to be scared because everything will turn out ok in the end. The human spirit will defeat this evil because the biggest secret that's been kept from us is the true power that we all have. When we realize what humans are truly capable, they will not be able to contain us in this prison that they've created. Our children and grandchildren will have wonderous lives... if we can wake enough people up before the **** really hits the fan.

[JLBats]

NO worries Super. No need to be scared because everything will turn out ok in the end. The human spirit will defeat this evil because the biggest secret that's been kept from us is the true power that we all have. When we realize what humans are truly capable, they will not be able to contain us in this prison that they've created. Our children and grandchildren will have wonderous lives... if we can wake enough people up before the **** really hits the fan.

You're wrong, if you are right you will fail, and even the believers know they can't win.

To paraphrase Wilhelm: Get drunk. ****. Die.

[FlameHead]

Do you know what "mock" means? As in mock sacrifices or mock trials?

Yes, it was a mock sacrifice (so we're told anyway) but that doesn't take away from the fact that there is still a congregation of powerful leaders (all men) who gather once a year to partake in this incredibly strange ritual. I mean if I were performing this mock sacrifice in my back yard once a year you probably wouldn't let me babysit your kids, let alone lead a country.

[Super Flight]

NO worries Super. No need to be scared because everything will turn out ok in the end. The human spirit will defeat this evil because the biggest secret that's been kept from us is the true power that we all have. When we realize what humans are truly capable, they will not be able to contain us in this prison that they've created. Our children and grandchildren will have wonderous lives... if we can wake enough people up before the **** really hits the fan.

thanks, we need to rebel and fight aganist the dark side, may the force be with us all

[JLBats]

no, what does it mean?

I'm sure Jesus will return and inform you:confused:

[Addendum]

This is funnier than the Hitchhiker 5 book Trilogy by Douglas Adams.

Keep it up :up:

[Super Flight]

I'm sure Jesus will return and inform you:confused:

tell me, what does it mean

[FlameHead]

You're wrong, if you are right you will fail, and even the believers know they can't win.

To paraphrase Wilhelm: Get drunk. ****. Die.

I refuse to live in this **** world without trying to do something to change it.

[Addendum]

tell me, what does it mean
Use a damn dictionary and find out for yourself, lazy ass

[Super Flight]

ye of little faith

[JLBats]

Yes, it was a mock sacrifice (so we're told anyway) but that doesn't take away from the fact that there is still a congregation of powerful leaders (all men) who gather once a year to partake in this incredibly strange ritual. I mean if I were performing this mock sacrifice in my back yard once a year you probably wouldn't let me babysit your kids, let alone lead a country.

Like I said, I think Bohemian Grove is born out of proportion. I think it's mostly a boys club that politicians go to to "fit in", not understanding the full meaning.

And you know what? Some of that video looks like a bush party I went to recently, so yeah:confused::up:

[Addendum]

No faith here

[Super Flight]

Use a damn dictionary and find out for yourself, lazy ass

go ta hell ;)

[FlameHead]

Anyway guys, I have to go to bed. I'll repost the C-Span thing again tomorrow when I wake up and perhaps, if you're around, we can chat.

In the meantime, watch some documentaries, read some articles and try to keep an open mind on everything you see, read or hear. That's the best advice I can give anyone at this point.

[JLBats]

Anyway guys, I have to go to bed. I'll repost the C-Span thing again tomorrow when I wake up and perhaps, if you're around, we can chat.

In the meantime, watch some documentaries, read some articles and try to keep an open mind on everything you see, read or hear. That's the best advice I can give anyone at this point.

I have. I buy it.

Then, I walk away from the dark room with the computer and I don't anymore.

[Addendum]

go ta hell ;)
I'd like to (http://www.hell2u.com/), especially when it freezes over

[FlameHead]

*sigh*

There in lies the problem JL...

[JLBats]

*sigh*

There in lies the problem JL...

No, you miss my point. Perhaps having that post so far away from my post about the Internet inducing paranoia was the problem.

[FlameHead]

Good night folks. Enjoy the rest of your day.

http://www.911sharethetruth.com/images/wtc-7.gif

[Addendum]

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/1356.gif

[JLBats]

I think it's the Internet. It's weird, because when you're alone in your basement typing, crazy thoughts become sane thoughts, and shaky evidence found on fringe websites become the only things you can trust.

It's weird, because for weeks I'll lie awake at night thinking "What if this **** is true?" Then I'll go out to a party and suddenly those thoughts, those stupid, completely fanciful moronic thoughts you've been giving credence to because of fringe websites, those thoughts that seemed terribly important while you were sitting at your computer typing... suddenly seem utterly stupid, irrelevent and childish when you'rel living your life.

It's sort of like that Eon8 countdown clock online experiment, where the web designer discovered that people online reacted to a lack of information by searching for every clue that could possibly make the website something sinister... Some people thought the clock was counting down to the release of a new online virus, others thought it was counting down to a world wide terrorist attack... Hell, some people thought it was counting down to a massive alien invasion or apocalypse.

But in the end, it turned out to be the most utterly mundane answer: Some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design made the site to see how people online would react. All of the iconography found on the site turned out to be coincidental. The vague sense of menace turned out to be manufactured by a paranoid Internet populace. The web designer who created the site said it best: We cannot allow empty paranoia and manufactured menace to run our lives. We cannot indict a government on suspicion and fringe websites. And ultimately, in what I consider the most apt metaphor for the whole conspiracism worldview, we cannot suspect the apocalypse when it is ultimately just some schmoe in his basement with a degree in web design.

"To me, a mark of maturity is realizing that nobody runs the world. Fat-cat politicians and secret conspiracies don’t control our lives. In reality, the world is much more complex than that. The people who seem to have a lock on power get swept out in a couple of years. So it’s naïve to keep swinging at the same targets over and over. It took me a long time to realize, but most of the shackles that I flailed against were just illusory."-George Meyer

Here. The post on Internet induced paranoia, with the Eon8 example.

[The Reverend]

Okay I have seen a lot of people here post who dont want to know the truth and who refuse to take the blinders off and and acknowledge that 9-11 was indeed an inside job hatched by our own government and that George Bush had prior knowledge it would indeed happen,allowed it to happen and did NOTHING to try and stop it.The CIA trained the terrorists into hijacking the plane,Bush was warned by FBI agents it was going to happen but threatened them with arrest if they tried to stop it.Attorney General John Ashcroft told David Schippers a chicago based lawyer to go away when he told him he had FBI agents that had evidence they knew it was going to happen.They were banging on his door begging him to take a look at it and he did not want to listen.People around here though have turned a blind eye to all that though despite the fact alec Jones has documented in his two great videos he has that its all true with 9-11 the road to tyranny and Martial Law and the fact that he has a section on his website called prior knowledge that documents George Bushs knowledge it was going to happen at www.infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com) well here is ANOTHER website that has overwhelming proof that Bush had prior knowledge that it would happen and debunks you naysayers who refuse to listen to the truth on this issue.Just go to www.johnkaminski.com (http://www.johnkaminski.com) and order his book for just $6.00 called The Day America Died.

yes folks it WAS staged by our own government and Bush DID know it was going to happen and wanted it to happen.Bush,Clinton,and the CIA,they're all in on it together.They have been long time buddies and pals with each other and both have CIA connections.


This isnt the first time I have herd this theory. thedisclosureproject.org has alot of information on it too.

Basically the idea is that there is a black government, which consists of heads of some of the worlds most powerful corporations (Lockheed martin is one) as well as the military industrial complex.

The theory is that they have planned, since 1947, three staged wars to make money, stay in power, and release new technology but at a time which would allow them still to have control over it.


The three wars said to have been planned are:
The first was the cold war
The second was the war on terror
and the third and final war, they say, will be the war of the worlds.

[Addendum]

http://www.samizdat.com.ar/samizdat21/war%20of%20the%20worlds.jpg

[FlameHead]

C-SPAN to Air Historic 9/11 Expose - TODAY

The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST).

Be sure to watch it!

[Darthphere]

You work for C-Span or something?

[FlameHead]

Yeah, I work for C-Span. My first job of the day was to go to the Super Hero Hype and promote programming.

[Fred_Fury]

only retards fall for this conspiracy theory bull****.

[Mr Sparkle]

only retards fall for this conspiracy theory bull****.

retards also make generalizations :up: damned retards.

[Fred_Fury]

retards also make generalizations :up: damned retards.

says the guy who probably believes this retardedness

[Mr Sparkle]

says the guy who probably believes this retardedness

good comeback :confused::o
but tell me this Fred, being in the military (sic) can you honestly tell me that you're 100% sure that something like waht's being described here couldn't happen?
I'm sure if you had told the Hitler youth that the burning of the Reichstagg had been done by people close to Hitler under his command they would've been outraged and called you "Das retardden" as well.

[FlameHead]

Only those in denial or those who have their heads stuck in the mud result to name calling and attacks. Either way, I means nothing to me if you don't believe. I do suggest that you actually watch the program tonight though. Perhaps it'll enlighten you.

[Addendum]

I'll be working tonight, so no big loss.

[FlameHead]

Ah yes, wake, work, rest, sleep, wake, work. The prison we all live in....

[FlameHead]

good comeback :confused::o
but tell me this Fred, being in the military (sic) can you honestly tell me that you're 100% sure that something like waht's being described here couldn't happen?
I'm sure if you had told the Hitler youth that the burning of the Reichstagg had been done by people close to Hitler under his command they would've been outraged and called you "Das retardden" as well.

LoL. "Das Retardden". Funny.

Most people don't know about Reichstagg, my friend, or the countless other similar tactics used in history.

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/whenhistoryrepeats.jpg

[Addendum]

Ah yes, wake, work, rest, sleep, wake, work. The prison we all live in....
Conspiracy Theories don't pay the bills, so I don't give a ****

[Super Flight]

So the non-beilevers will only learn the truth when they get killed by bush themselfs....hell they might still not beileve it :o

[Addendum]

And then it won't matter since they're dead. The only thing dead people do is decompose

[Super Flight]

^have you ever seen thriller? I'm sure after the dance someone had to seek revenge on their killer

[FlameHead]

Conspiracy Theories don't pay the bills, so I don't give a ****

The very fact that you have to work to hard to live is reason enough to give a ****. Did you know that your federal reserve bank is a privatly owned banking system and all the taxes you pay are used to pay off debt to them? Why would the American Government pay a privatly owned company to print their money when they could just do it themselves? Did you know that there is NO LAW stating that you have to pay taxes as an American citizen?

This is not a conspiracy theory Addendum. This is truth.

[Blade_fan1911]

Yes, let us all fear the powerful secret organization that can't keep their plans out of the hands of average internet users.

[Addendum]

And fear those that rely on "Did you know's" without backing up the information. :rolleyes:

At least ESPN can verify their "Did you know's" with the various archived information of professional and collegiate sports

[Mr Sparkle]

And fear those that rely on "Did you know's" without backing up the information. :rolleyes:

At least ESPN can verify their "Did you know's" with the various archived information of professional and collegiate sports

you didn't strike me a person closed off to alternative thinking.
maybe you're just being a smartass for it's own sake.:o


anyway, King Diamond > Type O Negative

[FlameHead]

And fear those that rely on "Did you know's" without backing up the information. :rolleyes:

At least ESPN can verify their "Did you know's" with the various archived information of professional and collegiate sports

Well, there is a documentary just released that talks about the Federal Reserve, the laws and all this neat stuff... and by neat, I mean infuriating.

America: Freedom to Fascism
Aaron Russo
http://www.freedomtofascism.com/

There's a 14 minute preview here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1616088001333580937

CBS News: "Four Stars (Highest Rating).
The Scariest Damn Film You'll See This Year"

AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM
"FOUR STARS (Highest Rating). The scariest damn film you'll see this year. It will leave you staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed and trembling. Makes 'Fahrenheit 9/11' look like 'Bambi.' After watching this movie, your comfy, secure notions about America -- and about what it means to be an American -- will be forever shattered. Producer/director Aaron Russo and the folks at Cinema Libre Studio deserve to be heralded as heroes of a post-modern New American Revolution. This is shocking stuff. You'll be angry, you'll be disgusted, but you may actually break out in a cold sweat and feel a sickness deep in your gut; I would advise movie theatre managers to hand out vomit bags. You may end up needing one."
--- Todd David Schwartz, CBS

[Addendum]

you didn't strike me a person closed off to alternative thinking.
maybe you're just being a smartass for it's own sake.:o


anyway, King Diamond > Type O Negative
I've always been a smartass.

I like King Diamond also, but he's not created his own flag.

That movie isn't coming out in my town, and I don't feel like driving 500 miles to Chicago just to watch a movie

[FlameHead]

I know. That's the problem, it's not a wide release but, hopefully it will turn out to be.

[Super Flight]

why do they worship an Owel??

[Addendum]

why do they worship an Owel??
http://www.orlyowl.com/blankrly.jpg
How can you not worship that? :D

[FlameHead]

It's the Owl god Moloch and/or Molech. Why they worship it is beyond me but, I do believe these global elite are obsessed with death and heavily believe in symbolism and numerology. It is an ancient organization afterall and does explain the obsessions with war and/or the constant fueling of the war machine.

[Addendum]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/1722_moloch.gif
yeah....

Looks more like a bull

[Super Flight]

http://www.orlyowl.com/blankrly.jpg
How can you not worship that? :D

no, ITs an evil Owel that they worship,

[Super Flight]

they evil put the owel on money, Its on the one dollar bill, is a very small owel

[FlameHead]

Along with many other strange things on the Dollar Bill...

But, this strange behaviour is only one small section of the whole picture here and most people can't even grasp the 'inside job' factor yet, let alone the Illuminati, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones and other such extreme oddities.

[Addendum]

However, when you do a search for "Moloch" on google you get...

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/moloch.html
"King". The sun god of the Canaanites (Ammonites?) in old Palestine and sometimes associated with the Sumerian Baal, although Moloch (or Molekh) was entirely malevolent. In the 8th-6th century BCE, firstborn children were sacrificed to him by the Israelites in the Valleye of Hinnom, south-east of Jerusalem (see also Gehenna). These sacrifices to the sun god were made to renew the strength of the sun fire. This ritual was probably borrowed from surrounding nations, and was also popular in ancient Carthage.

Moloch was represented as a huge bronze statue with the head of a bull. The statue was hollow, and inside there burned a fire which colored the Moloch a glowing red. Children were placed on the hands of the statue. Through an ingenious system the hands were raised to the mouth (as if Moloch were eating) and the children fell into the fire where they were consumed by the flames. The people gathered before the Moloch were dancing on the sounds of flutes and tambourines to drown out the screams of the victims.

According to some sources, the Moloch in the Old Testament is not a god, but a specific form of sacrifice.

So, moloch was a bull god. And for the record, it's spelt owl.

[Colossal Spoons]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

The End

[JLBats]

The very fact that you have to work to hard to live is reason enough to give a ****. Did you know that your federal reserve bank is a privatly owned banking system and all the taxes you pay are used to pay off debt to them? Why would the American Government pay a privatly owned company to print their money when they could just do it themselves? Did you know that there is NO LAW stating that you have to pay taxes as an American citizen?

This is not a conspiracy theory Addendum. This is truth.

Dude, we JUST HAD A THREAD ON THAT TOPIC, and it was thoroughly debunked.

[rodhulk]

Alex Jones. He has several documentaries and has been reporting the actions of the global elite for many years now. In fact, this man predicted and warned that 9/11 was going to happen 4 months before it did.Actually, so did some little 8 year old kids in Afghanistan who drew pictures of two planes crashing into two buildings just before 911.

[Mr Sparkle]

Actually, so did some little 8 year old kids in Afghanistan who drew pictures of two planes crashing into two buildings just before 911.

and the Journal of one of the students responsible for the columbine massacre who wrote of hijacking a plane and crashing it into New York. :o

[rodhulk]

and the Journal of one of the students responsible for the columbine massacre who wrote of hijacking a plane and crashing it into New York. :oYou have no idea! :o

[FlameHead]

Actually, so did some little 8 year old kids in Afghanistan who drew pictures of two planes crashing into two buildings just before 911.

I wouldn't doubt it Rod. The entire world knew the attacks were coming. The US recieved warnings from 11 differenct countries and yet, NOTHING was done to stop it from happening. Nothing. The greatest military and technological country in the world did NOTHING to stop it or even prepare for it.

If you guys would actually spend some time reading the information provided to you instead of finding sites that debunk it, things would be different. How many of these coincedences, cover ups and clear indicators can you ignore?

It blows me away that something this evident isn't pissing you off. Just one of these topics, either specifically about 9/11 or the whole movement for global control, should be enough for the populous to challenge the ones who GOVERN you, your government. If the possibity that those who make the laws and enforce them have been hijacked by some black ops force, then you should question it.

I can't explain how baffling it is talking to some of you guys about this. You're obsession for disbelief is outstanding and quite sad as well. This is your life, your freedom, you soul that I'm talking about and you'd rather spend your time debunking information than forcing your government to do it, to explain everything, to explain why the Patriot Act makes is for Freedom when it's taken every sense of that away with much bigger plans to come.

How much is it going to take before you take your country back?

This is so enfuriating to me. I live in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada and I care more about America's Freedom than most of it's inhabitants do and that makes me really sad. It really it depressing.

[Addendum]

Nothing the government does surprises me.

I've been a cynic since I was 11, and a skeptic since birth. Pleased to meet you :)

[Super Flight]

Bush just showed us how much he hates humanity by vetoing the stem cell reserch, Becasue bush doesnt want to help people, thats why hes in Skull and bones, he worships death, and 9/11 was just a game for him,

[JLBats]

Uh... FlameHead, some people just genuinely don't believe the theory and don't believe the evidence presented supports it. I hate these conspiracy theorist mentality that those who disagree with the theory MUST have their heads up their asses or be completely oblivious to half the evidence.

[Carter]

"....all the children are insane....."

[JLBats]

Bush just showed us how much he hates humanity by vetoing the stem cell reserch, Becasue bush doesnt want to help people, thats why hes in Skull and bones, he worships death, and 9/11 was just a game for him,

Jesus, would you SHUTUP?:confused:

At least FlameHead knows what he's talking about. You're rambling like a hillbilly who just stumbled into daddy's meth lab.

[Mr Sparkle]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

The End


:rolleyes: madoxx is funny, however he tackles the most outrageous conspiracy theories, however he ends up looking as retarded as the people he hopes to mock.
see, I ahve no idea why it's so far fetched for people to believe that somewhere in the highest levels of power (world, not just US) someone said "this needs to happen" and it happened, through the rather conventional means of having people hijack planes and killing themselves for whatever reason.
why is that so far fetched?
do I think that's the only explanation? no, it could just be the actions of terrorists, sure, they where trained by the CIA at one point, and Bin Laden and Bush both retired some stock off some airlines a few weeks or days before the incident, but hey, CO-IN-CI-DENCE right?
sure, Lizard people don't exist, i get, no hollograms I get it, I know.
but c'mon, you guys didn't find the whole 9-11 thing a tad too convenient for many many reasons?

[rodhulk]

I wouldn't doubt it Rod. The entire world knew the attacks were coming. The US recieved warnings from 11 differenct countries and yet, NOTHING was done to stop it from happening. Nothing. The greatest military and technological country in the world did NOTHING to stop it or even prepare for it.

If you guys would actually spend some time reading the information provided to you instead of finding sites that debunk it, things would be different. How many of these coincedences, cover ups and clear indicators can you ignore?

It blows me away that something this evident isn't pissing you off. Just one of these topics, either specifically about 9/11 or the whole movement for global control, should be enough for the populous to challenge the ones who GOVERN you, your government. If the possibity that those who make the laws and enforce them have been hijacked by some black ops force, then you should question it.

I can't explain how baffling it is talking to some of you guys about this. You're obsession for disbelief is outstanding and quite sad as well. This is your life, your freedom, you soul that I'm talking about and you'd rather spend your time debunking information than forcing your government to do it, to explain everything, to explain why the Patriot Act makes is for Freedom when it's taken every sense of that away with much bigger plans to come.

How much is it going to take before you take your country back?

This is so enfuriating to me. I live in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada and I care more about America's Freedom than most of it's inhabitants do and that makes me really sad. It really it depressing.The reason I don't get ticked (and I speak personally here because of my religious views) is that this whole thing 'is' going to happen and there's nothing we can do about it.

In fact, I'm sad to say that I don't even follow alot of what's going on and I've learned alot of things from what you've said. I did know that Bush was a member of various groups, etc...... but some of the details you mentioned were new.

It's fun to read, but I don't get involed. I just like to be informed on what's going on and how close we are getting to the end (as we know it).

What do you know of a world leader who will lead this new world order (probably out in Europe or the middle east)? The anitchrist the Bible speaks of.

[ShadowBoxing]

The very fact that you have to work to hard to live is reason enough to give a ****. Did you know that your federal reserve bank is a privatly owned banking system and all the taxes you pay are used to pay off debt to them? Why would the American Government pay a privatly owned company to print their money when they could just do it themselves? Did you know that there is NO LAW stating that you have to pay taxes as an American citizen?

This is not a conspiracy theory Addendum. This is truth.
Actually there are several.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution
“The Congress shall have the Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States.”

The Sixteenth Amendment
"The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on
income, from whatever source derived, without
apportionment among the several States, and without
regard to any census or enumeration”.

United States Tax Code: Title 26
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sup_01_26.html
This applies to EVERYONE, not just Government employees.

Other facts
-Tax payer cannot violate of disobey tax law, however they can contest liabilities in Court.

-While the tax law is based on voluntary compliance (which simply means YOU have to fill out YOUR taxes), any attempt to avoid or failure to fill out your taxes can and will result in prosecution and civil penalties.

-The United States Court System holds there is no constitutional reason or legal grounds for failing to fill out your tax returns.

-Drug dealers have to pay taxes too in some states on their drug sales.

Breakdown of your taxes
Social Security, Medicare, and other retirement 36%
Law enforcement and general government 2%
National defense, veterans,
and foreign affairs 18%
Social programs 18%
Physical, human, and
community development 10%
Net interest on the debt 10%
Surplus to pay down the debt 6%


HAPPY APRIL 15th FLAMEHEAD!:)

[Super Flight]

Jesus, would you SHUTUP?:confused:

At least FlameHead knows what he's talking about. You're rambling like a hillbilly who just stumbled into daddy's meth lab.

now i know you hate humanity and on the evil owl death worshiping side, lol, so dont talk to me again... :o

[JLBats]

:rolleyes: madoxx is funny, however he tackles the most outrageous conspiracy theories, however he ends up looking as retarded as the people he hopes to mock.
see, I ahve no idea why it's so far fetched for people to believe that somewhere in the highest levels of power (world, not just US) someone said "this needs to happen" and it happened, through the rather conventional means of having people hijack planes and killing themselves for whatever reason.
why is that so far fetched?
do I think that's the only explanation? no, it could just be the actions of terrorists, sure, they where trained by the CIA at one point, and Bin Laden and Bush both retired some stock off some airlines a few weeks or days before the incident, but hey, CO-IN-CI-DENCE right?
sure, Lizard people don't exist, i get, no hollograms I get it, I know.
but c'mon, you guys didn't find the whole 9-11 thing a tad too convenient for many many reasons?

That's been my exact point throughout the thread.

People add all of this "Hologram, missile, BOHEMIAN GROVE!!" stuff to sensationalise the topic. To me, all it does is detract from it.

[Carter]

lol.

[ShadowBoxing]

Jesus, would you SHUTUP?:confused:

At least FlameHead knows what he's talking about. You're rambling like a hillbilly who just stumbled into daddy's meth lab.Uh, FlameHead just said there is no law saying you have to pay your taxes. Now, I may not be a conspiracy theorist, but I'd say if you want to start making "theories" about how something "works" you should have a working knowledge of that system first.

[Addendum]

:rolleyes: madoxx is funny, however he tackles the most outrageous conspiracy theories, however he ends up looking as retarded as the people he hopes to mock.
see, I ahve no idea why it's so far fetched for people to believe that somewhere in the highest levels of power (world, not just US) someone said "this needs to happen" and it happened, through the rather conventional means of having people hijack planes and killing themselves for whatever reason.
why is that so far fetched?
do I think that's the only explanation? no, it could just be the actions of terrorists, sure, they where trained by the CIA at one point, and Bin Laden and Bush both retired some stock off some airlines a few weeks or days before the incident, but hey, CO-IN-CI-DENCE right?
sure, Lizard people don't exist, i get, no hollograms I get it, I know.
but c'mon, you guys didn't find the whole 9-11 thing a tad too convenient for many many reasons?
And while political pundits everywhere cannot see the conspiracy, some kid with access to the internet can? That's the part that fails to hook me

[Super Flight]

^internet is powerful

[FlameHead]

Uh... FlameHead, some people just genuinely don't believe the theory and don't believe the evidence presented supports it. I hate these conspiracy theorist mentality that those who disagree with the theory MUST have their heads up their asses or be completely oblivious to half the evidence.

I didn't mean it to be so rudly taken. What I mean is that there is just overwhelming elements of this story and surely of these elements should make you think.

The fact is, when you believe this side of the story, EVERYTHING makes sense. Everything connects and you can literally see the progression in history. There is no other clearer, logical given explaination that connects 9/11 and other 'Reichstag fires', federal reserve, Bohemian Grove, JFK, Middle East destruction, global warming, corporate control, electronic voting fraud, witch hunts, everything we've ever really talked about since birth.

In fact, when you think about it further, what if everything we've learnt is false? What if the schooling system we were all forced into at a young age was just the start of the conditioning to believe that humans must live in a world where we wake up early, go to work, come on and rest, sleep, get up, go to work, rest and we must do this simply for the gratification of weath. The entire planet is forced to get money so that they can spend money. It's an endless cycle. We are in a prison, plain and simple. Just step back and look.

Now, while you're taking that faraway glace, think further on who has the most money, so much money that it means nothing anymore. Do you think these people ever really touch money as we know it? Money is just paper folks. It's a symbol of the control they have over us.

Gold, now that's a different story. That's the true sign of weath. He who has the gold owns the country. Now, consider the billions of dollars of Gold that went missing after/during 9/11.

I just can't see, I truly cant understand how people can't connect the dots. I'm sorry if this is offensive but, I just don't understand.

[FlameHead]

Uh, FlameHead just said there is no law saying you have to pay your taxes. Now, I may not be a conspiracy theorist, but I'd say if you want to start making "theories" about how something "works" you should have a working knowledge of that system first.

You prove to me that there's a law stating you HAVE to pay taxes. Go ahead.

[JLBats]

Uh, FlameHead just said there is no law saying you have to pay your taxes. Now, I may not be a conspiracy theorist, but I'd say if you want to start making "theories" about how something "works" you should have a working knowledge of that system first.

I meant regarding conspiracy theories. Super Flight saw one Bohemian Grove video and hasn't stopped babbling since.

[JLBats]

You prove to me that there's a law stating you HAVE to pay taxes. Go ahead.

Um, he just posted it, and if you use that lovely search function on the front page of community, you will find the recent thread on the subject.

[Mr Sparkle]

And while political pundits everywhere cannot see the conspiracy, some kid with access to the internet can? That's the part that fails to hook me

Dood, political pundits don't care. their world is rather small.
back when JFK was assasinated (another rather dubious situation) no one really called for an investigation, and all who did where called nuts by both sides of the aisle.
go figure right?
yet one needs to recognize that BOTH things are rather convenient for certain people, who in the end, make a killing (moneywise)
this isn't about world domination, or anything fantastic like that.
it's about money, and power, am I willing to believe that someone would kill 3,000 people for money or power?


yeah, I am.

[Addendum]

You prove to me that there's a law stating you HAVE to pay taxes. Go ahead.
Read post #629 in this thread

[FlameHead]

And while political pundits everywhere cannot see the conspiracy, some kid with access to the internet can? That's the part that fails to hook me

There are plenty of political pundits all over the world talking about this if you'd actually take the time to look. There are plenty of scholars talking about it as well.

[Super Flight]

I meant regarding conspiracy theories. Super Flight saw one Bohemian Grove video and hasn't stopped babbling since.

its not a therory, understand that skull and bones is a real group and that George Bush and his father along with other politicans are in the club. and Bohemian Grove is a real place., did you watch the rest of the video?

[JLBats]

its not a therory, understand that skull and bones is a real group and that George Bush and his father along with other politicans are in the club. and Bohemian Grove is a real place., did you watch the rest of the video?

For God sakes, you saw one video last night. I've been into this stuff for ages. Don't tell me I don't understand it, thanks:rolleyes::up:

[Super Flight]

For God sakes, you saw one video last night. I've been into this stuff for ages. Don't tell me I don't understand it, thanks:rolleyes::up:

i'm getting the impression that you think its all fake :confused:, i'm confussed...ok what DO you think is real, then i know, so i dont guess, lol

[FlameHead]

its not a therory, understand that skull and bones is a real group and that George Bush and his father along with other politicans are in the club. and Bohemian Grove is a real place., did you watch the rest of the video?

Skull and Bones is very real.

Here's Bush being asked about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iiisokDGbfA&search=skull%20and%20bones

Here's Kerry being asked about it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r6qPUkVWzKM&search=skull%20and%20bones

[Super Flight]

i've seen more then just one video, i've seen several, and i tend to wtch them a bunch of times

[Addendum]

Dood, political pundits don't care. their world is rather small.
back when JFK was assasinated (another rather dubious situation) no one really called for an investigation, and all who did where called nuts by both sides of the aisle.
go figure right?
yet one needs to recognize that BOTH things are rather convenient for certain people, who in the end, make a killing (moneywise)
this isn't about world domination, or anything fantastic like that.
it's about money, and power, am I willing to believe that someone would kill 3,000 people for money or power?


yeah, I am.
oh well

[FlameHead]

i've seen more then just one video, i've seen several, and i tend to wtch them a bunch of times

68 videos dealing with the subject embedded on my blog, if you want more.

http://canadawantsthetruth911.blogspot.com/

[Mr Sparkle]

I meant regarding conspiracy theories. Super Flight saw one Bohemian Grove video and hasn't stopped babbling since.


*shrug*

[JLBats]

i'm getting the impression that you think its all fake :confused:, i'm confussed...ok what DO you think is real, then i know, so i dont guess, lol

If you haven't been able to decipher that, then I apologise.

Ultimately, what I think is fake is the concept of 9/11 as part of an overarching plan to dominate the world. I HATE the comparisons to Hitler. I think it basically destroys your whole argument when you have to start comparing people to Hitler. I think 9/11 was likely allowed to happen, since we have seen that radical Islamists are clearly wont to use violent tactics to achieve their means. I've never found that part of this suspicious at all.

I've said before, I see Bohemian Grove as a large boy's club that has large connections to satanic rituals, which most politicians attend because it is the "IN" thing to do. They don't fully understand the meanings of the rituals or the history of the club.

[Super Flight]

68 videos dealing with the subject embedded on my blog, if you want more.

http://canadawantsthetruth911.blogspot.com/

Cool thanks

[ShadowBoxing]

I wouldn't doubt it Rod. The entire world knew the attacks were coming. The US recieved warnings from 11 differenct countries and yet, NOTHING was done to stop it from happening. Nothing. The greatest military and technological country in the world did NOTHING to stop it or even prepare for it.
Actually the CIA had been trailing Osama for some time leading up to Sept 11th collecting information. However even the 911 Commission, which every conspiracy theorist convienently never reads, found that both "Bush and Clinton" were "not well served by the intelligence communities" and places the blame on both administration. So you and most of the Government are in the same boat at this point.

If you guys would actually spend some time reading the information provided to you instead of finding sites that debunk it, things would be different. How many of these coincedences, cover ups and clear indicators can you ignore? Isn't this the exact thing you are doing. Taking what is the "official story" and attempting to debunk it.

Secondly, how exactly would you expect someone to "debunk and coincedence and clear indicator". That is something you and you alone come to. Coincidences are neither universial nor beyond criticism. One thing Christians, the ironic enemies to Conspiracists like Sum and Wil, have trouble grappling with often is how most people fail to see the "coincidences" they see in things like evolution, weather patterns and events. However the tendency is those who see these coincidences often have little or no knowledge on the subject for which they see.

For example, the Reichstag and 911 are often compared. While the events may seem similar to someone, any who studies politics or history knows their are a significant degree of differences between the leaders, politics, economics, social climate and global climate. The similarities begin to breakdown. The entire notion of "history repeating" in and of itself is an attempt for the observer to reconcile something he or she does not understand in his/her mind.

It blows me away that something this evident isn't pissing you off. Just one of these topics, either specifically about 9/11 or the whole movement for global control, should be enough for the populous to challenge the ones who GOVERN you, your government. If the possibity that those who make the laws and enforce them have been hijacked by some black ops force, then you should question it.
And you call others narrowminded :rolleyes:

You don't find it weird that someone else takes joy in cooking do you, despite the fact that you may not find such an activity pleasing yourself. Same idea applies here. Your projecting how you feel or what you think you know onto everyone else, again this is a position that comes from misunderstanding.

Again, in order to get people pissed you have to prove your position, not attempt to take the legs out from under the others position.

Most conspiracy theories attempt to debunk or shoot holes in the "official story". There is a huge problem with this, it does not strengthen their position since any and all events have infinite outcomes and executions.

I can't explain how baffling it is talking to some of you guys about this. You're obsession for disbelief is outstanding and quite sad as well. This is your life, your freedom, you soul that I'm talking about and you'd rather spend your time debunking information than forcing your government to do it, to explain everything, to explain why the Patriot Act makes is for Freedom when it's taken every sense of that away with much bigger plans to come.Comes from your narrowmindedness. I can talk to a fat person and understand why he or she has become fat. Tends to be why so many people who are trying to get in shape want to train with me. Rather than attempting to live in a worl of mystery, I try to understand everything I can about fitness before making theories.

How much is it going to take before you take your country back?
Proof, a smoking gun, alarm discovery. It took events like Emmett Till to insight Civil Rights. You have nothing like this. All you have is an event everyone witnessed, and everyone has an interpretation of. Your just imposing your interpretation on us.

This is so enfuriating to me. I live in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada and I care more about America's Freedom than most of it's inhabitants do and that makes me really sad. It really it depressing.

This kills me.

If you live in Canada, seriously, SHUT THE F**K UP about MY country. You seem to hate Bush for imposing his view of Iraq on the Middle East, well stop imposing YOUR view of MY COUNTRY on us. Its bad enough you hate my Government, stop acting like it's President.:down

[ShadowBoxing]

You prove to me that there's a law stating you HAVE to pay taxes. Go ahead.Post 629

[FlameHead]

Actually.....

I only mean to inspire. Besides, you don't even own your country anymore.

I hope we can have this conversation again in a couple of years but, for now, I'm done with discussing this on the hype. I've said what I had to say to a group that I'm very comfortable with. Whether you believe what I have to say, it makes no difference to me.

If anyone wishes to discuss this further, PM me.

In my exit, I leave you with one final reminder. C-Span is showing a 9/11 Discussion panel tonight. You should watch it.

http://www.911sharethetruth.com/images/wtc-7.gif

[JLBats]

Stop posting that GIF. Just stop.

[Carter]

I've heard firefighter testimony that when the towers fell, they took a chunk out of the bottom of 7 World Trade, causing it to become unstable.
I'll believe eyewitness testimony before your stupid gif.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I've said before, I see Bohemian Grove as a large boy's club that has large connections to satanic rituals, which most politicians attend because it is the "IN" thing to do. They don't fully understand the meanings of the rituals or the history of the club.If you watch Alex Jone's video footage of the Cremation of Care ceremony, There is a huge crowd of men in ordinary clothes (blocking Alex's view) and they're seperated from the weirdos in the black, red and silver robes by the water (on which the "sacrifice" arrives via boat).

Once the "sacrifice" is burned and "Moloch" says "Midsummer sets us FREE!", all of the normal-looking dudes start cheering exactly like drunk boys at a frat party or a football game (lots of gutteral "Yeah"'s and "W00t"'s). They sound quite stupid like partiers when contrasted with the swelling orchestral music and mock-sacred atmosphere coming from the ceremony itself.

Having a large base of members who are just there for social reasons/networking, and then a handful at the top who really believe all the balderdash reminds me of the Free Masons. You expose the weirdness of the Masons, and invariably someone pipes up to tell you "Hey! My grandpa's a Mason and he doesn't believe any of this crap."

That's right, because he doesn't even know why he's really there at the meetings. That's why they have "degrees" of membership. I'm the concierge for my company. I'm a full employee, invited to all of the work functions, etc. But I have no idea what the company's real estate development plans are, or what the sociopathic ass****s at the top are thinking and talking about in private.

So I agree that the majority of the Grovers couldn't care less about the real agenda, and it's the guys on the other side of the river who know how truly sinister it is.

Which makes for some fun if you're a Reptilian-Believer, because at the climax of the ceremony, all the aged frat boys are whoopin' it up, but if you listen, there are some bizarre alien monster hisses and growls going on, drowned out by the drunks.

Is it a prerecorded sound effect meant to represent the "death" of "Care"? If it is, "Care" must've been posessed by several demons.
But, Reptilian-believers have long said that the reptilians revert to Reptile form at the moment their sacrifice is killed.

Hmmmm.....:squinty look to the left, squinty look to the right:

[Carter]

Im going to have to watch that video again
Anybody have a link?

[Darthphere]

There was a funny scene in that video where hes riding in car with a guy from the BBC I think and hes sitting there for like 5 minutes driving down the highway and all of he sudden he decides to introduce himself and shake his hand.

[JLBats]

If you watch Alex Jone's video footage of the Cremation of Care ceremony, There is a huge crowd of men in ordinary clothes (blocking Alex's view) and they're seperated from the weirdos in the black, red and silver robes by the water (on which the "sacrifice" arrives via boat).

Once the "sacrifice" is burned and "Moloch" says "Midsummer sets us FREE!", all of the normal-looking dudes start cheering exactly like drunk boys at a frat party or a football game (lots of gutteral "Yeah"'s and "W00t"'s). They sound quite stupid like partiers when contrasted with the swelling orchestral music and mock-sacred atmosphere coming from the ceremony itself.

Having a large base of members who are just there for social reasons/networking, and then a handful at the top who really believe all the balderdash reminds me of the Free Masons. You expose the weirdness of the Masons, and invariably someone pipes up to tell you "Hey! My grandpa's a Mason and he doesn't believe any of this crap."

That's right, because he doesn't even know why he's really there at the meetings. That's why they have "degrees" of membership. I'm the concierge for my company. I'm a full employee, invited to all of the work functions, etc. But I have no idea what the company's real estate development plans are, or what the sociopathic ass****s at the top are thinking and talking about in private.

So I agree that the majority of the Grovers couldn't care less about the real agenda, and it's the guys on the other side of the river who know how truly sinister it is.

Which makes for some fun if you're a Reptilian-Believer, because at the climax of the ceremony, all the aged frat boys are whoopin' it up, but if you listen, there are some bizarre alien monster hisses and growls going on, drowned out by the drunks.

Is it a prerecorded sound effect meant to represent the "death" of "Care"? If it is, "Care" must've been posessed by several demons.
But, Reptilian-believers have long said that the reptilians revert to Reptile form at the moment their sacrifice is killed.

Hmmmm.....:squinty look to the left, squinty look to the right:

...:confused:

[Super Flight]

Alex jones did a good job with those videos

[Super Flight]

The video says theres only 15 members of Skull and bones each year and Geroge bush and john kerry are 2 of them...interesting

[ShadowBoxing]

The video says theres only 15 members of Skull and bones each year and Geroge bush and john kerry are 2 of them...interestingSkull and Bones is a very elitist fraternity, it does not surprise me that John Kerry and Bush were involved, especially since Bush would be a legacy.

[Super Flight]

Skull and Bones is a very elitist fraternity, it does not surprise me that John Kerry and Bush were involved, especially since Bush would be a legacy.

The other name for skull and bones is called the order of death :eek:

[JLBats]

The other name for skull and bones is called the order of death :eek:

The name of my childhood club was "Girls have cooties". Does this indicate to you that girls, in fact, have cooties?

Or is it spelled "coodies"? See, I like "coodies" because it gives you that harder, more judgemental "D" sound.

[Carter]

Skull and Bones most likely isn't much more than a networking community, where rich people help other rich people propel their careers.

[ShadowBoxing]

The other name for skull and bones is called the order of death :eek:People in real life call me "The Terminator", but I am not a mindless robot who terminates people in the past.

[JLBats]

People in real life call me "The Terminator", but I am not a mindless robot who terminates people in the past.

This is a very disappointing realisation.

[Carter]

My custom title says "Half monk, half hitman", but believe it or not I'm neither.

[Darthphere]

My custom title says "Half monk, half hitman", but believe it or not I'm neither.


Liar.:o

[Super Flight]

Did you know that Arnold Schwarzeneggers dad was a Nazi, and that was the reason he was put into Office as the Gov Of C.A? Becasue the Bush family Favors Nazi's and that one day the bush family will become the most powerful Family ever?

LOL!

[ShadowBoxing]

Did you know that Arnold Schwarzeneggers dad was a Nazi, and that was the reason he was put into Office as the Gov Of C.A? Becasue the Bush family Favors Nazi's and that one day the bush family will become the most powerful Family ever?

LOL!Did you also know Schwarzeneggers family disowned him. :down

[Super Flight]

Did you also know Schwarzeneggers family disowned him.

O_O,

[JLBats]

O_O,

You're on a bridge to nowhere and you're getting there fast. Put it in the past. Put it in the past. If this is a race then I hope you come last. You're on a bridge to nowhere and you're getting there fast.

[Super Flight]

He wants to run for President i Hear, he will then establish a grand army of stronger Terminator Soilders

[JLBats]

Actually, robots and Reptilians are mortal enemies.

[Super Flight]

do you think he'd make a good president?

[JLBats]

Um, no, but it has nothing to do with a Nazi Bohemian Grove reptilian conspiracy.

[ShadowBoxing]

do you think he'd make a good president?No, he is an extremely hard worker and very dedicated, but just look at California. He is politically incompetent.

In fact if you type the word "incompetent" into google image search the first picture is of George Bush, the second of Gov Arnold.

[Super Flight]

^hahahahaha

yea, he should just stick with movies, i want to see another terminator film anyways

[Carter]

I'm tring to find a working torrent of Alex Jones' "Inside Bohemian Grove"

[Darthphere]

I'm tring to find a working torrent of Alex Jones' "Inside Bohemian Grove"


Its on Google video.

[Carter]

edit.
Found it

[ShadowBoxing]

^hahahahaha

yea, he should just stick with movies, i want to see another terminator film anywaysYou'll get your wish. They already dub Arnold the "One-Term inator". And Hollywood already 2 or 3 movies floating around with his name attached, meaning they don't see his political career lasting much longer.

[Topdawg]

Another conspiracy thread.lol

[JLBats]

Which sucks for the Reptilians setting him up as Hitler deux.

[Super Flight]

I have another question, Do any of you Beileve that a Police State is coming in the near future?

[JLBats]

I have another question, Do any of you Beileve that a Police State is coming in the near future?

No. I do not. I believe there has been a slow erosion of liberties, but it is the same kind that happens with every war. At least Bush isn't putting all people of Muslim descent into prison camps like FDR did with the Japanese. And we've hardly gotten to the point things got in the Cold War, with blacklisting and McCarthyism.

[ShadowBoxing]

I have another question, Do any of you Beileve that a Police State is coming in the near future?Clarify. If you mean as a direct result of this administration and Sept 11th, no. However I would imagine that overpopulation and lack of resources will eventually cause some massive shift in world Governments.

[Super Flight]

I hear that they say if theres another Attack on america that it might happen

[comicgirl]

I hear that they say if theres another Attack on america that it might happenI hate to say it, but its surprising we haven't been hit again yet.

I don't think Bush the Lesser is smart enought to tie his shoes, but now that the "get the US" ball is rolling..................who can stop it?

[ShadowBoxing]

I hear that they say if theres another Attack on america that it might happenKind of idle speculation there isn't it? I mean what kind of attack our we talking about, and where. Then you'd have to know when, because with the current trend Government's going it is possible the Senate and Congress would feel a different series of actions would be better, especially since the next attack would show the old paradigmn as ineffective.

[comicgirl]

I have another question, Do any of you Beileve that a Police State is coming in the near future?read the sig, baby........

[Super Flight]

I was thinking about The New World Order and thought that One group cant control the world, and that it was stupid...intill i watched this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7933921211538654442&q=New+World+Order

[JLBats]

Videos with creepy music can make anything seem believable. YTMND had me convinced eon8 was a terrorist attack. But it was some schmoe in his basement.

[Super Flight]

Videos with creepy music can make anything seem believable. YTMND had me convinced eon8 was a terrorist attack. But it was some schmoe in his basement.

You think the State of the UNion back in 91 was all some kid in his basement???

"hell 9/11 never happend, neither did Katrine, So wtf are you talking about" ...thats all i'm hearing

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7933921211538654442&q=New+World+Order

[HUMAN]

By slowly taking away our liberties, our country has slowly degraded into a Police State.

Evidence: The Patriot Act, Patriot Act 2, and The Victory Act.

Evidence: The Guantanamo styled concentration camp in NYC called Pier 57.

Evidence: www.spp.gov - Need I say more?

Evidence: NAFTA Superhighway

We our currently being condition to sacrifice our FREEDOMS for security. Something our forefathers reviled!

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security will find that they inherit neither." - Benjamin Franklin

Just look up Operation: Northwoods ladies and gentlemen. Our government is capable of attacking it's own people.

[ShadowBoxing]

I was thinking about The New World Order and thought that One group cant control the world, and that it was stupid...intill i watched this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7933921211538654442&q=New+World+OrderThat connection they are making there means nothing, especially since the man presenting the video seems to need to fill in his own explanation rather than allow words to speak for themselves. And furthermore, considering we have virtually no allies on the international circuit besides England, I'd say Bush is doing a pretty sh***y job then.

[Super Flight]

Edit

[Topdawg]

^ HELL NOO!! LoL

[JLBats]

By slowly taking away our liberties, our country has slowly degraded into a Police State.

Evidence: The Patriot Act, Patriot Act 2, and The Victory Act.

Evidence: The Guantanamo styled concentration camp in NYC called Pier 57.

Evidence: www.spp.gov (http://www.spp.gov) - Need I say more?

Evidence: NAFTA Superhighway

We our currently being condition to sacrifice our FREEDOMS for security. Something our forefathers reviled!

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security will find that they inherit neither." - Benjamin Franklin

Just look up Operation: Northwoods ladies and gentlemen. Our government is capable of attacking it's own people.

Pearl Harbor.

[Super Flight]

"A NEW WORLD ORDER CAN EMERGE"
-Bush Senior, 1991 during State of the Union Speach


LOL

[comicgirl]

By slowly taking away our liberties, our country has slowly degraded into a Police State.

Evidence: The Patriot Act, Patriot Act 2, and The Victory Act.

Evidence: The Guantanamo styled concentration camp in NYC called Pier 57.

Evidence: www.spp.gov - Need I say more?

Evidence: NAFTA Superhighway

We our currently being condition to sacrifice our FREEDOMS for security. Something our forefathers reviled!

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security will find that they inherit neither." - Benjamin Franklin

Just look up Operation: Northwoods ladies and gentlemen. Our government is capable of attacking it's own people.

There is some weird #$%$# comin' down. Hell, here in PA, we have Rick Santorum (hopefully not for long, its an election year) as our Senator. You guys better hope and pray someone like him or Sen. Brownback from Kansas never gets in a position of power that they have their hand near the big red button. KER-POW!

http://www.stopsantorumnow.org/

[ShadowBoxing]

By slowly taking away our liberties, our country has slowly degraded into a Police State.

Evidence: The Patriot Act, Patriot Act 2, and The Victory Act.

All of which are far less severe than acts of previous administrations such as FDRs Japanese Internment, The Alien and Sedition Acts, McCarthyism to name a few.

Evidence: The Guantanamo styled concentration camp in NYC called Pier 57.

Interment was far worse, and need I mention slavery

Evidence: www.spp.gov (http://www.spp.gov) - Need I say more?

Yes, you do. Now you're just being glib.

Evidence: NAFTA Superhighway

Same as last post. Your adding your own spin onto something in order to fit it into a preconcieved notion of things.

We our currently being condition to sacrifice our FREEDOMS for security. Something our forefathers reviled!

Our Forefathers believed women had no right to vote, that only rich white property owners should be allowed any participation in Government. Oh and that African Americans were 3/5th of a person.

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security will find that they inherit neither." - Benjamin Franklin

He and Jefferson had little problem with slavery though.

Just look up Operation: Northwoods ladies and gentlemen. Our government is capable of attacking it's own people.

Taking events out of context hardly improves the foundation of your argument.

[Super Flight]

If woman ruled the world...Would 9/11 ever happend?

[comicgirl]

If woman ruler the world...Would 9/11 ever have happend?nope

[ShadowBoxing]

If woman ruled the world...Would 9/11 ever happend?No, because then if she ruled the world, there would be a world Government, and there is no telling what would happen considering all the changes made to society from doing that.

[Super Flight]

No, because then if she ruled the world, there would be a world Government, and there is no telling what would happen considering all the changes made to society from doing that.

i meant if world leaders were all woman

[JLBats]

...Oh for God's sakes.

[ShadowBoxing]

i meant if world leaders were all womanThe overarching effects of such a dramatic change would not only undo 9/11 it would change everything. I could not even begin to tell you whether or not Osama, myself or President Bush would have ever been born, let alone whether 9/11 would have occured.

[Super Flight]

The overarching effects of such a dramatic change would not only undo 9/11 it would change everything. I could not even begin to tell you whether or not Osama, myself or President Bush would have ever been born, let alone whether 9/11 would have occured.

Osama would have fallen in love with his sweetheart and married,had a bunch of kids and became a Sucessful Cook on live TV. Never knowing anything of violence

[Carter]

Sometimes I can start to understand Super Flight's or Flamehead's perspective on these things, but then one of you will come around with these awfully cliched and naive comments that make it impossible for me to take you seriously.

"Where's Superman when you need him?"
"Would 9/11 have happened if the world were run by woman?"

[ShadowBoxing]

Osama would have fallen in love with his sweetheart and married and became a Sucessful Cook on live TV. Never knowing anything of violenceIf you go back in time and kill one Butterfly, when you come back Ned Flanders will be Big Brother.

[comicgirl]

Osama would have fallen in love with his sweetheart and married,had a bunch of kids and became a Sucessful Cook on live TV. Never knowing anything of violence4 of his sweethearts...........

[Super Flight]

Sometimes I can start to understand Super Flight's or Flamehead's perspective on these things, but then one of you will come around with these awfully cliched and naive comments that make it impossible for me to take you seriously.

"Where's Superman when you need him?"
"Would 9/11 have happened if the world were run by woman?"

the superman and World ruled by woman were serious, i swear

[Carter]

Yes, you were being serious.
That's my point.

[Super Flight]

The world would be a lot happier if The world leaders were moms

[Carter]

And there you go again.

[ShadowBoxing]

Fun fact about the Bohemian Grove; Richard Nixon, after visiting, said the entire experience was "faggy".

[JLBats]

The world would be a lot happier if The world leaders were moms

It's not so much that I want you die, but I do want you to suffer.

[Carter]

Fun fact about the Bohemian Grove; Richard Nixon, after visiting, said the entire experience was "faggy".

Well, I guess tricky dick isn't into running around a redwood forest naked.

I knew I always liked him for a reason

[Super Flight]

It's not so much that I want you die, but I do want you to suffer.

Not only do i want you to go to hell, but i think you're gay :o

[JLBats]

Not only do i want you to go to hell, but i think you're gay :o

lol

[FlameHead]

By slowly taking away our liberties, our country has slowly degraded into a Police State.

Evidence: The Patriot Act, Patriot Act 2, and The Victory Act.

Evidence: The Guantanamo styled concentration camp in NYC called Pier 57.

Evidence: www.spp.gov - Need I say more?

Evidence: NAFTA Superhighway

We our currently being condition to sacrifice our FREEDOMS for security. Something our forefathers reviled!

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security will find that they inherit neither." - Benjamin Franklin

Just look up Operation: Northwoods ladies and gentlemen. Our government is capable of attacking it's own people.

Excellent post.

The North American Union is very popular knowledge at this point folks. This is very real and tangable proof that a world governance is emerging. Me, I like Canada, the US and Mexica just the way they are, not completly destroyed in order to create one huge super power.

Look it up. It's all happening right before our eyes.

[JLBats]

I thought you weren't coming back?:rolleyes:

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, I guess tricky dick isn't into running around a redwood forest naked.

I knew I always liked him for a reasonHe called all the world's leaders "****" :D

No wonder he was so great at Foreign Policy.

[Super Flight]

Flamehead you need to stay and keep this thread alive

[FlameHead]

I couldn't help myself. There were many times that I started posts but later decided against it.

Look, I'm very passionate about this. I find it hard to stay away.

[JLBats]

I couldn't help myself. There were many times that I started posts but later decided against it.

Look, I'm very passionate about this. I find it hard to stay away.

Kind of like SumofGod making a whole thread about how he was done with the theories, then coming back and doing it again like a week later?

[ShadowBoxing]

I thought you weren't coming back?:rolleyes:Oh no he has found conspiracy now in the fact that increased communications and ability to import and export goods has led to globalized economies.

[Super Flight]

dint they name america after a woman whose name was america?

[FlameHead]

Actually no. I searched for the thread I though my information would fit it most and then posted. I'm not here to spam. Just talk.

[Carter]

This Bohemian Grove video is extremely entertaining, although I'm going to have to follow up on Mr Jones' credibility

[FlameHead]

Oh no he has found conspiracy now in the fact that increased communications and ability to import and export goods has led to globalized economies.

Increased communications is extreamly different than erasing borders and creating an Amero.

[FlameHead]

This Bohemian Grove video is extremely entertaining, although I'm going to have to follow up on Mr Jones' credibility

Mr. Jones has been researching and exposing this information for over a decade.

[Super Flight]

when does the c-span show start again? 8?

[JLBats]

I think a world government would be kind of cool, if it were like on big hippie commune. I could go for that.

[Carter]

Mr. Jones has been researching and exposing this information for over a decade.

But is he credible?

[Super Flight]

as credible as the word itself

[FlameHead]

I think a world government would be kind of cool, if it were like on big hippie commune. I could go for that.

If you see no problem with one government controlling the entire world then, fine. I have huge problems with that, especially when you consider how much war is already promoted.

[JLBats]

But is he credible?

Shakycam video of a recent party looks a lot like his Bohemian Grove video.

Are we to suggest that I am some sort of hedonistic satanist?!:down:eek:

[FlameHead]

But is he credible?

Everything he talks about backed up by the documents he's taken them from. He has thousands of news sources, both mainstream and fridge, posted on his websites. The information is overwhelming in fact.

[JLBats]

If you see no problem with one government controlling the entire world then, fine. I have huge problems with that, especially when you consider how much war is already promoted.

Yeah, the different hippie communes would probably start to hack at eachother:confused:

[FlameHead]

when does the c-span show start again? 8?


The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST). You can watch the program online at the times stated above by clicking here.

[ShadowBoxing]

Increased communications is extreamly different than erasing borders and creating an Amero."The World is Flat" does a nice job of explaining much more than I can do in one post. But due to Globalization. The word is much more than merely a series of imports and exports now. Countries borders naturally "erase" when economies become intertwined in the way Mexico, America and Canada has. We are at a point now where people millions of miles away can have access to all the services and products that you and I have. Hence "the world is flat", the stage is leveled. Things like NAFTA and SPP are very important because America as a country can not go further unless it's economy is altered and new jobs are made to prep us for a much faster paced way of life.

[Super Flight]

doesnt Bruce Willis Beileve that it was an inside Job aswell?

[Super Flight]

The program will air on C-SPAN 1 at 8PM EST (7PM CST) on Saturday, July 29th and then air again for the West Coast at 11pm EST (10pm CST). You can watch the program online at the times stated above by clicking here.

cool thanks, It starts in 2 hours!

[JLBats]

doesnt Bruce Willis Beileve that it was an inside Job aswell?

I would be very suprised, since he tried to sign up for the army to fight the bad terrorists:rolleyes::up:

[FlameHead]

"The World is Flat" does a nice job of explaining much more than I can do in one post. But due to Globalization. The word is much more than merely a series of imports and exports now. Countries borders naturally "erase" when economies become intertwined in the way Mexico, America and Canada has. We are at a point now where people millions of miles away can have access to all the services and products that you and I have. Hence "the world is flat", the stage is leveled. Things like NAFTA and SPP are very important because America as a country can not go further unless it's economy is altered and new jobs are made to prep us for a much faster paced way of life.

The only thing I get from this post is the thought that everyone once thought that the world was flat and laughed and mocked all those who though otherwise until finally, after many years of debate, it was proven false.

Same goes for 9/11. In a few years, we'll have a grand conversation as people learn that the world 'isn't flat'.