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BT18
06-07-2006, 11:30 AM
Something more reminiscent of his classic uniforms from the classic comics does not equal a want or desire for "yellow spandex", of course that doesn't stop all you anti-change people from repeating that phrase ad nausium at any hint of discussion for change.

He can still have a non-pastel, non-bright/light-colored uniform that isn't all black and happens to have a mask and no sleeves.

I'm sick of this re-writing of history due to filmmaker deifying that the classic uniforms of characters like Wolverine and Cyclops are so much more inconsequential and uniconic in proportion to them overall compared to the Supermans and Spider-Mans of the world.

Black and Silver were never THE main team colors of the X-Men. It was BLUE AND GOLD.

Decay
06-07-2006, 11:32 AM
He looks just great in black leather uniforms.

Kanon
06-07-2006, 11:35 AM
If it's a prequel, we should see some Weapon X uniforms, or military, something like that

BT18
06-07-2006, 11:37 AM
He looks just great in black leather uniforms.

Having it be leather is fine, it doesn't have to be all black. It can have some other tones and colors. It can have gold trim and/or armor/padding. It can have no sleeves most easily. And it can have a mask.

Decay
06-07-2006, 11:48 AM
Why should he have a mask?

BT18
06-07-2006, 11:58 AM
Why should he have a mask?

Because the real Wolverine likes wearing a mask most of the time. I guess Captain America shouldn't have a mask in his movie either though right?

Decay
06-07-2006, 12:03 PM
The Wolverine movie will be some how about the X-men movies Wolverine...not the real Wolverine we know from the comic books. So there is no reason for him to wear masks.

axex
06-07-2006, 12:03 PM
I agree that he should wear a mask and blue/yellow. If they made Spiderman's costume totally different and without a mask, people would say "it would look stupid if he wore a mask," but we know it's much better that they stuck very close to the comics with his costume. nobody knows how it would have looked if they'd stuck with a close variation of the comic uniforms in the X movies. as is the case in Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Superman, and a bunch of others, it would have looked totally fine. That's part of the comics, and there's no reason to change it. It would not look weird at all if they do it right, but people assume it would because we were given something else and they can't see it any differently.

Maybe at the end of Wolverine they'll have him in a variation of the yellow and blue uniform like in the comics.

batboy99
06-07-2006, 12:04 PM
for some reason i just want him in his jacket and jeans

BT18
06-07-2006, 12:06 PM
I agree that he should wear a mask and blue/yellow. If they made Spiderman's costume totally different and without a mask, people would say "it would look stupid if he wore a mask," but we know it's much better that they stuck very close to the comics with his costume. nobody knows how it would have looked if they'd stuck with a close variation of the comic uniforms in the X movies. as is the case in Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Superman, and a bunch of others, it would have looked totally fine. That's part of the comics, and there's no reason to change it. It would not look weird at all if they do it right.

Maybe at the end of Wolverine they'll have him in a variation of the yellow and blue uniform like in the comics.

thank you. Lets see if someone now attempts to prove you wrong with pictures of fat people in fan-made costumes at comic book conventions.

Decay
06-07-2006, 12:07 PM
Anything but his yellow outfit!!!!

Jan Irisi
06-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Make a "brutal" near "R" rated film, and have him wear a mask? Like in the comics? Ugh.....keep it simple. No need for flair. The only color I want to see is that of blood. And no mask.

axex
06-07-2006, 12:11 PM
So you don't think all those years of him in the mask in the comics were brutal? The mask is part of Wolverine. Maybe the next Spiderman movie should just have a guy in jeans and a t-shirt swinging around New York.

The point is that it can be done if done right. It doesn't have to look stupid, but it is an iconic part of the character. And he doesn't have to wear it the entire time, but it would be nice to have a scene or two for the fans.

BMM
06-07-2006, 12:12 PM
Because the real Wolverine likes wearing a mask most of the time. I guess Captain America shouldn't have a mask in his movie either though right?

Yes, but characters such as Batman, Captain America, and Spider-Man are individuals who choose to be superheroes (individuals who need to mask their identities in order to protect themselves and those they love) . . . whereas Wolverine is a bit different.

Regardless, so long as they a give decent reason for Wolverine wearing a mask (such as it being needed in secret ops. mission, etc.) . . . and so long as it doesn't look goofy, I don't think I would have a problem with it. Although, I can't picture Hugh Jackman wearing a mask quite like Wolverine's in the comics.

I don't know. Wolverine's costume has always seemed a bit tricky to me . . . because unlike good 'ol Peter Parker, Wolverine is viscous . . . Haha, and his being in costume might not quite convey the attitude of Wolverine.

Jan Irisi
06-07-2006, 12:17 PM
No mask. It's not about Spider-man or Batman or any other superhero who wears one. Movie-verse Wolverine should never wear one, at any time. Goofy, silly, not necessary.

BMM
06-07-2006, 12:20 PM
No mask. It's not about Spider-man or Batman or any other superhero who wears one. Movie-verse Wolverine should never wear one, at any time. Goofy, silly, not necessary.

That's pretty much where I fall on the issue as well . . . also, in each of the other superhero movies, the characters have some sort of personal explanation or purpose regarding the use of masks . . . and I don't get the same impression from Wolverine.

Superbeasto
06-07-2006, 12:21 PM
We should see this!!!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/superbeasto/weaponx.jpg

Decay
06-07-2006, 12:25 PM
So you don't think all those years of him in the mask in the comics were brutal? The mask is part of Wolverine. Maybe the next Spiderman movie should just have a guy in jeans and a t-shirt swinging around New York.

The point is that it can be done if done right. It doesn't have to look stupid, but it is an iconic part of the character. And he doesn't have to wear it the entire time, but it would be nice to have a scene or two for the fans.
Ypu can't compare Wolverine's story with Spiderman. Spiderman had plenty of reason to wear masks.

Darknightnomis
06-07-2006, 12:26 PM
There's ways of doing the black and "Yellow" spandex costume that would make it look authentic on screen withouy being overly campy. All it takes is the design and differnet color gradation.

It's (was) bright yellow in the classic comics becasue of the coloring process of the past (4 color) although today's computer colored comics don't have that problem with the limited colors of yesterday.

Why did you think so many superheroes of long ago always wore primary colors.

I always thought it was funny how a couple of years ago Marvel tried to bring the black leathered suits from the movies to the books and they look hideous. And for me they do also on the movie screen.

However, I would say with Hugh Jackman stariing in this movie and is well known by most movies goers ass wolverine in the black leatherd uniform for them not to change it.

I will say he look more fierce in his street clothes (t-shirt and Jeans) more so than that leather button up uniform.

Wait until the entire X-Men movie series is reboot in about 10 years from now and START the uniforms off right like the classic comic look.


Or they can just adapt "Weapon X" to th ebig screen and then all he needs to be is in the buff.

Superbeasto
06-07-2006, 12:31 PM
He is not going to wear a uniform he is just going to run naked in the forest with the weapon x helmet of course, and a lot of wires hanging out, o yes and blood all over his body

ScarletSpider
06-07-2006, 02:00 PM
I don't think he should wear one of the comic uniforms in the movie, as it'd just be hard to swallow. But if he did I'd want it to be the brown one, but with the mask points shorter more like the astonishing outfit. Though with some tweaking the Ultimate outfit could work.

But really I'd like to see him in his civilian ware, and if there's weapon X stuff then a military-esque outfit.

BT18
06-07-2006, 02:17 PM
I don't think he should wear one of the comic uniforms in the movie, as it'd just be hard to swallow. But if he did I'd want it to be the brown one, but with the mask points shorter more like the astonishing outfit. Though with some tweaking the Ultimate outfit could work.

But really I'd like to see him in his civilian ware, and if there's weapon X stuff then a military-esque outfit.

No marvel movie has ever had a character wear the exact same anything as they did in any comic book, I'm damn going out of my way to make clear that that isn't what I'm suggesting here.

Kevin Roegele
06-07-2006, 02:45 PM
Who says Wolverine will even wear an X-Men costume in his solo movie?

Iceburgeruk
06-07-2006, 03:35 PM
Chances are that there won`t be a uniform seeing as how wolvie will just be roaming on his own. He will just wear his usual crazy casual attire.

Sean Madrox
06-07-2006, 03:43 PM
I think that he should wear the brown and yellow costume that the comic book character has, but more muted. Not sure if that would work, but I'm sure that they can come up with something along those lines.

Nathan
06-07-2006, 03:49 PM
I also don't see any sort of costume making it into the Movie. He was a military man, participated in a experiment and escaped to roam free through the world for 15 years. I doubt he'll be going on any missions for the government in the Movie. If anything he'll be a hunted man.

But if he should happen to wear anything else beside normal clothes, it should be just military gear.

http://www.gameblitz.com/images/wr4.jpg

Mrh7448
06-07-2006, 03:51 PM
I don't think he should wear a uniform, just his leather jacket, jeans, wife beater shirt and his cowboy hat.

batboy99
06-07-2006, 03:53 PM
yes i agree,isnt the movie supposed to be before he's an x-man?

millyd03
06-07-2006, 04:03 PM
yes uniform, no spandex. possibly a mask, but no blue and yellow color scheme use the brown and yellow instead.

axex
06-07-2006, 04:18 PM
Wolverine's original blue/black and yellow uniform wasn't given to him by the X-Men. Look at Giant Size #1. It was given to him while he was working for Department H for the Canadian military. A Wolverine prequel could easily feature this costume (modified of course), even if they change the history to where he works for the US govt. It's not his X-Men uniform. It's the Wolverine uniform. So even if no X-Men are in the film at all, it could easily be featured, at least at the end.

It would actually make less sense for the brown costume to be featured, as this uniform was first introduced after he was already a member of the X-Men.

I just don't see how they can do 4 Wolverine movies (as everybody agrees X1-3 were more about him), and not feature the iconic blue/yellow Wolverine costume that made him famous.

lordofthenerds
06-07-2006, 04:31 PM
He probably won't even where a costume. He hasn't met the X-Men yet.

axex
06-07-2006, 04:34 PM
For those that can type but can't read, please at least look at my last post.

And, speaking of the uniform given him by the Canadian military, here's a good start:

http://www.action-figure.com/events/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=37744&g2_serialNumber=1

Nathan
06-07-2006, 04:41 PM
I just don't see how they can do 4 Wolverine movies (as everybody agrees X1-3 were more about him), and not feature the iconic blue/yellow Wolverine costume that made him famous.


Because as great as it is to look at in the comics, it would absolutely make no sense in real life for him to wear the costume. Do you honestly think the government would send their special operatives around in bright colours on field missions where they can be spotted from a mile away instead of camo gear?

"Ok, listen Logan. We need you to destroy that facility. You must not be seen, if you get caught we'll deny any connections between you and Department H. Oh and btw, wear that yellow costume."

axex
06-07-2006, 04:49 PM
Because as great as it is to look at in the comics, it would absolutely make no sense in real life for him to wear the costume. Do you honestly think the government would send their special operatives around in bright colours on field missions where they can be spotted from a mile away instead of camo gear?

"Ok, listen Logan. We need you to destroy that facility. You must not be seen, if you get caught we'll deny any connections between you and Department H. Oh and btw, wear that yellow costume."

Well, it makes just about as much sense as people with superhuman powers--controlling weather, shooting raybeams from eyeballs, and being a blue hairy ape-man. Or a man that has spider powers, or a man that wears a cape and red underwear over his tights while he flies. But don't all of these make big bucks at theaters?

It's a comic book movie. It's not supposed to be like our reality, and this can still be achieved without being like Batman and Robin bs.

Nathan
06-07-2006, 04:55 PM
There's a difference between people being born with a mutation and a government that puts their personnal into bright yellow spandex.

Just because it is a Movie based on a comic that doesn't mean you can dress anyone up in their original outfits and not have the audience laugh their asses off. If you adapt a comic to the big screen, you have to make certain changes to make it believable and ground it into reality.

BT18
06-07-2006, 05:07 PM
There's a difference between people being born with a mutation and a government that puts their personnal into bright yellow spandex.

Just because it is a Movie based on a comic that doesn't mean you can dress anyone up in their original outfits and not have the audience laugh their asses off. If you adapt a comic to the big screen, you have to make certain changes to make it believable and ground it into reality.

thanks for confirming you can't read

axex
06-07-2006, 05:11 PM
There's a difference between people being born with a mutation and a government that puts their personnal into bright yellow spandex.

Just because it is a Movie based on a comic that doesn't mean you can dress anyone up in their original outfits and not have the audience laugh their asses off. If you adapt a comic to the big screen, you have to make certain changes to make it believable and ground it into reality.

I know what you mean. When I saw Spiderman, and the trailer for the new Superman, the audience just laughed at their costumes until they all walked out. And when I saw Batman in that batsuit, I just rolled my eyes and walked out too.

That's ridiculous. There are tons of successful comic book movies in which the characters wore a slight variation of their comic suits. And nobody said it had to be "bright yellow spandex." Read earlier posts and you can become educated on other ideas.

I'm happy enough with reality without having to make my movies trick me into thinking what I'm watching is in real life. I'm fairly certain audiences are fine with comic book movies being infused with a bit of the aspects that make comic books enjoyable.

BT18
06-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Following any line of logic you naysayers perpetrate, you would have to be against Captain America having a mask or a uniform with color in it for his movie. He should just be a jacked, shield-wielding soldier with regular fatigues and maybe a white star on his collar.

Infinity9999x
06-07-2006, 05:22 PM
I personaly don't ever want to see the yellow blue Wolverine costume, because I've never liked that costume. I wouldn't mind seeing the yellow brown one though.

Herr made a good point a thread like this earlier, that yellow and brown could be Yuriko's family colors, and that the headmask resembles that of old japanese samuri warriors. So you could have a good explanation for the costume right there.

LoGaN's RuNNer
06-07-2006, 05:26 PM
He is not going to wear a uniform he is just going to run naked in the forest with the weapon x helmet of course, and a lot of wires hanging out, o yes and blood all over his body
He wasn't wearing a helmet in the X2 flashback, so I dont see why they would put one on him in this one, but then again since when did movies stay true to the preivous ones..?:p

Mrh7448
06-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Yeah I've never liked that blue, yellow, black thing either. Personally I never really understood why Wolverine ever wore a costume.

Granted that during the time he was created all the cats were doing it, doesn't mean it really fits his character though. He has nothing he needs to protect, he doesn't need a secret identity really. I just think it's silly to be honest.

I understand the want to see him that way because that's what he wears in the comic, but it's not really practical.

Nathan
06-07-2006, 05:29 PM
I know what you mean. When I saw Spiderman, and the trailer for the new Superman, the audience just laughed at their costumes until they all walked out. And when I saw Batman in that batsuit, I just rolled my eyes and walked out too.

Last time I checked those characters weren't ex-military that used to kill people for a living. Spider-Man and Superman are your typical heroes who want to help the people and rescue babys out of burning buildings. Batman knew that as a normal person he couldn't do much, since a normal person can be destroyed. But as a Symbol he could make the difference.

What excuse does Wolverine have? Ex-military, Ex-CIA, part Samurai. All he wants is a cigar and a beer. And if anyone comes along to start a mess he'll be glad to rough them up a little.

Sun_Down
06-07-2006, 05:36 PM
A dark blue/gold or dark brown/orange outfit could work, if done right. The gov't could have issued him a special combat uniform specially designed for him and it could really look great. The mask, though, would most likely look ridiculous.

And BT, you know that Captain America comparison isn't fair. Cap was supposed to be a poster boy for America and an inspiration to the people, hence the outfit. Wolverine is a secret government operative who has no real reason to be dressed up in a flashy outfit. That's not to say that they couldn't adapt one of his classic costumes into military-style combat gear, but it's not fair to compare Wolverine to Superman or Spider-Man or Captain America.

Iceburgeruk
06-07-2006, 06:11 PM
I don't think he should wear a uniform, just his leather jacket, jeans, wife beater shirt and his cowboy hat.

As long as sabretooth doesnt wear a cowboy hat as well.

And as long as they don`t have the two of them with their faces looking in opposite directions overlapping on the film poster.

Hehehe Brokeback Mutant. lol I better be quiet and not give fox any stupid ideas.

tedw
06-08-2006, 03:47 PM
Logan seems non-fussed about uniforms in general. In his X1 exchange with Cyclops, he seemed a bit put out that they were all traipsing out in matching leather outfits. So I doubt he would've been running around working for the govt in an outfit that is more reminiscent of his comics costume with more colors (not spandex, but even something more realistic and yet brighter/more comic-esque than the X-Men suits).

TheVileOne
06-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Because the real Wolverine likes wearing a mask most of the time. I guess Captain America shouldn't have a mask in his movie either though right?

According to Wolverine, he doesn't like wearing a mask at all.

BT18
06-08-2006, 03:58 PM
According to Wolverine, he doesn't like wearing a mask at all.

what illogical writer had him say that?

Xavier dropped the dress code in the mid-60's. Wolverine has decided apon wearing a mask 90 percent of time he's wearing a uniform, including his primary (http://www.angelfire.com/ns/logan/facts/costumes/wolv4.jpg) and secondary (http://www.angelfire.com/ns/logan/facts/costumes/wolv3.jpg) 2 classic iconic uniforms. I guess Cyclops might hate wearing Blue though too. And Nightcrawler would much rather wear an overcoat with paint speckles all over it than a black and red suit.

Flame on!
06-08-2006, 04:06 PM
To be honest, the X-Men always looked like giant spastics in their garish uniforms.

BT18
06-08-2006, 04:19 PM
To be honest, the X-Men always looked like giant spastics in their garish uniforms.

yeah, comic book titles that are visual failures usually become the greatest selling of all time. It's just their succinct and easy to understand continuity that their appeal belongs to.

TheVileOne
06-08-2006, 07:14 PM
what illogical writer had him say that?

Joss Whedon, Grant Morrison, Larry Hama, and Joe Casey.


Xavier dropped the dress code in the mid-60's. Wolverine has decided apon wearing a mask 90 percent of time he's wearing a uniform, including his secondary ("]primary[/URL] and[URL="http://www.angelfire.com/ns/logan/facts/costumes/wolv3.jpg) 2 classic iconic uniforms. I guess Cyclops might hate wearing Blue though too. And Nightcrawler would much rather wear an overcoat with paint speckles all over it than a black and red suit.

You need to get over your little mask fetish. The best Wolverine stories ever he hardly ever wears a mask at all. And if he does, he loses it very quickly.