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Cinemaman
06-07-2006, 01:00 PM
"The next one would have Batman enlisting the aid of Gordon and Dent in bringing down The Joker...but not killing him. In the third [movie], The Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process." - David S. Goyer, BATMAN BEGINS screenwriter, 2005
http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmov...inssequel.html
So Joker will be on trial and scarring 2Face.
What your thoughts are about this?
Brian2887
06-07-2006, 01:04 PM
I dig the idea of connecting the strongest characters and leaving out ones whose history cannot be explored in 2 2-hour movies. All we need are the heavy-hitters, the who's who of Batman's mythos.
Whack Arnolds
06-07-2006, 01:36 PM
I dig the idea of connecting the strongest characters and leaving out ones whose history cannot be explored in 2 2-hour movies. All we need are the heavy-hitters, the who's who of Batman's mythos.
Tru that....
Double Tru
El Payaso
06-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Well, the Joker was already Joe Chill, so now he'll be Boss Moroni. The same as Ra's was Ducard. I'm sure it'll work better than it sounds.
Avernus
06-07-2006, 02:27 PM
well...I assumed Dent would be scarred at the end of the 2nd....but in the 3rd is all the same to me.....
this just means that Batman and Dent will get to know eachother better as they partner for the movie after Rachel dies...
Well, the Joker was already Joe Chill, so now he'll be Boss Moroni. The same as Ra's was Ducard. I'm sure it'll work better than it sounds.
I know what u are trying to say, but your not lying.
Katsuro
06-07-2006, 07:08 PM
Who really knows how much of that will change by the films release. It might end up that way, and it might not (I hope not). I'd prefer Maroni being the one to scar Dent, and I think it'd work better at the end of the second one. It'd be kind of a surprise to the general public who isn't expecting this guy to become Two-Face.
Saint
06-07-2006, 07:34 PM
I say we all discussed it a year ago, when Goyer originally made the comment.
Nightwing
06-07-2006, 07:35 PM
The trial scene should really be apart of the sequel. Originally, if they were to keep it true to The Long Halloween, then Maroni should be the one who does it of course. Especially if Maroni does end up being a character used in the sequel, with all the rumors circling that he will. But I can't help feeling a bit curious as to how Goyer or Nolan would interpret it, if Joker was the one who throw the acid instead. Leaving Dent with a personal vendetta against him, and how it would play out in the third.
I'd prefer Maroni as well, but I honestly wouldn't mind Joker as long as it was done right.
Capt Throbberson
06-07-2006, 08:05 PM
I just hope to god Batman isn't sitting in the courtroom.
Black Panther
06-07-2006, 08:21 PM
The trial scene should really be apart of the sequel. Originally, if they were to keep it true to The Long Halloween, then Maroni should be the one who does it of course. Especially if Maroni does end up being a character used in the sequel, with all the rumors circling that he will. But I can't help feeling a bit curious as to how Goyer or Nolan would interpret it, if Joker was the one who throw the acid instead. Leaving Dent with a personal vendetta against him, and how it would play out in the third.
I'd prefer Maroni as well, but I honestly wouldn't mind Joker as long as it was done right.
Yeah I mean what should we worry about? It's Nolan and Goyer for cryin' out loud. :o And if it's in fact Bob Hoskins as old Salvatore, that be even MORE kick ass.
........Honestly, why does this film have to come out in 2008? :(
I just hope to god Batman isn't sitting in the courtroom.
I agree with that, I think it'd be a bit more "dramatic" and the "effect" between Joker and Harvey (if it's them two) would really be shown to the people watching the film. :up: :up:
Rynan
06-07-2006, 08:30 PM
I agree with that, I think it'd be a bit more "dramatic" and the "effect" between Joker and Harvey (if it's them two) would really be shown to the people watching the film. :up: :up:
He'll be there, but in disguse.
El Payaso
06-07-2006, 08:42 PM
Yeah I mean what should we worry about? It's Nolan and Goyer for cryin' out loud.
It's the Goyer bit. Don't want some awful one-liner when it's uncalled.
Capt Throbberson
06-07-2006, 08:44 PM
He'll be there, but in disguse.
I meant in full costume ALA Batman Forever.
I wouldn't mind if Wayne was there.
Katsuro
06-07-2006, 08:47 PM
It's the Goyer bit. Don't want some awful one-liner when it's uncalled.
Not that one-liners were a problem in the first place, but regardless, Goyer will not be writing the dialog for this film. Goyer will supervise the script treatment and be an advisor, but it's Jonathan Nolan who will be penning the actual script.
Stringer
06-07-2006, 11:44 PM
I like it, gives Batman even more reason to detest Joker.
Robin91939
06-08-2006, 12:12 AM
I think that the second movie should open with a trial scene of one of the villains from BATMAN BEGINS (Falcone probably), with Harvey Dent as the D.A. Then, have after the trial a media buzz outside the courtroom as he walks out, calling him, "Mr. District Atourney", "Mr. Dent", "Apollo"..etc. Then have the camera pull back through a telivision tube, and we see Bruce Wayne watching the broadcast.
-R
thedarks0ldier
06-08-2006, 01:55 AM
I am all for the idea. I am willing to let go a Joker/ Two-Face callaboration. Not that they really liked each other to begin with.
The Kid
06-08-2006, 02:01 AM
I think that the second movie should open with a trial scene of one of the villains from BATMAN BEGINS (Falcone probably), with Harvey Dent as the D.A. Then, have after the trial a media buzz outside the courtroom as he walks out, calling him, "Mr. District Atourney", "Mr. Dent", "Apollo"..etc. Then have the camera pull back through a telivision tube, and we see Bruce Wayne watching the broadcast.
-R
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Cinemaman
06-08-2006, 07:44 AM
I think the trial should be at the end of sequel with 2Face's appearance.
And in 3rd movie 2Face will be trying to kill Joker, but Gordon and Batman will use Joker as a victim to get 2Face.
Batman also will be need some information about 2Face from Joker.
When 2Face know that Batman protects Joker, he will try to kill him.
At the end Joker will escape Arkham and try to connect with 2Face. Then he will make him against Batman and become 2Face's partner.
The whole film, 2Face will be making his plan how to destroy Gotham. At the final fight, Batman will arrest 2Face and then fight with Joker, who made the whole main stuff to just make a fun on Batman.
And by accident Joker will be finally killed.
This is how I can see it.
Rynan
06-08-2006, 09:42 AM
And by accident Joker will be finally killed.
Joker will never die. He cannot die. As long as Batman still breathes, The Joker will continue persist.
Cinemaman
06-08-2006, 09:58 AM
Joker will never die. He cannot die. As long as Batman still breathes, The Joker will continue persist.
Yeah Yeah :rolleyes:
BB3 will be the last part in this trilogy, so Joker should just die with some hint that he will come back soe day.
Kritish
06-08-2006, 10:20 AM
They've already done better then Batman 89 and Batman and Robin.
I trust Nolen.:up:
Rynan
06-08-2006, 10:43 AM
Yeah Yeah :rolleyes:
BB3 will be the last part in this trilogy, so Joker should just die with some hint that he will come back soe day.
No. I believe it will be Harvey who will have an unresolved death.
Like Dark Victory.
Ronny Shade
06-08-2006, 10:44 AM
They've already done better then Batman 89 and Batman and Robin.
I trust Nolen.:up:
Don't trust people if you can't spell their name.
Nightwing
06-08-2006, 06:29 PM
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8639/longhalloweenchap110160sc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/transload.php)
I like the Idea of Joker being the one to scar Dent and by the 3rd movie Two-Face will be out for revenge.
But Batman gets in the way leads to Two-Face getting rid of Batman first.
Something like that
Joe Kerr
06-11-2006, 08:31 PM
i like the "long halloween" storyline that should be the script for BB2/3 IMO, i got that for christmas and i love it, dam good story...
Doc Holliday
06-12-2006, 12:47 AM
I think the trial should be at the end of sequel with 2Face's appearance.
And in 3rd movie 2Face will be trying to kill Joker, but Gordon and Batman will use Joker as a victim to get 2Face.
Batman also will be need some information about 2Face from Joker.
When 2Face know that Batman protects Joker, he will try to kill him.
At the end Joker will escape Arkham and try to connect with 2Face. Then he will make him against Batman and become 2Face's partner.
The whole film, 2Face will be making his plan how to destroy Gotham. At the final fight, Batman will arrest 2Face and then fight with Joker, who made the whole main stuff to just make a fun on Batman.
And by accident Joker will be finally killed.
This is how I can see it.
Okay, if Joker scars Two Face, why would Two Face team up with him? He's the whole reason for his deformity.
Plus, I'd rather not have the pairing of villains idea used anymore. It didn't work too well with BF and B&R. Granted, it wasn't the one thing that ruined the movie, but it was one of many.
Plus the Joker should never die. Ever.
El Payaso
06-12-2006, 01:53 AM
Plus the Joker should never die. Ever.
erm... Lazarus pit?
Joe Kerr
06-13-2006, 12:53 AM
Does Anyone Agreee With Meeee???
Cinemaman
06-13-2006, 06:51 AM
Okay, if Joker scars Two Face, why would Two Face team up with him? He's the whole reason for his deformity.
Plus, I'd rather not have the pairing of villains idea used anymore. It didn't work too well with BF and B&R. Granted, it wasn't the one thing that ruined the movie, but it was one of many.
Plus the Joker should never die. Ever.
Joker will use Batman as his protector and will have a very plan how to kill him, 2Face will like it and become his partner.
Joe Kerr
06-14-2006, 04:57 PM
about what? :confused:
the long halloween idea
ganstaman56
06-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Well, the Joker was already Joe Chill, so now he'll be Boss Moroni. The same as Ra's was Ducard. I'm sure it'll work better than it sounds. your sayin it like you just heard it from nolan himself. i doubt that that will happen. Joker isnt going to be moroni. it's a dumb idea.
Joker will use Batman as his protector and will have a very plan how to kill him, 2Face will like it and become his partner.no.
I think the trial should be at the end of sequel with 2Face's appearance.
And in 3rd movie 2Face will be trying to kill Joker, but Gordon and Batman will use Joker as a victim to get 2Face.
Batman also will be need some information about 2Face from Joker.
When 2Face know that Batman protects Joker, he will try to kill him.
At the end Joker will escape Arkham and try to connect with 2Face. Then he will make him against Batman and become 2Face's partner.
The whole film, 2Face will be making his plan how to destroy Gotham. At the final fight, Batman will arrest 2Face and then fight with Joker, who made the whole main stuff to just make a fun on Batman.
And by accident Joker will be finally killed.
This is how I can see it. no!!! no!!! no!!! noo!!!!! no teaming up! and i think this idea is kinda :down
explode7
06-17-2006, 06:29 PM
YEah please dont make Batman team up with anyone period it makes him look too weak.
Two-Face
06-17-2006, 07:34 PM
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8639/longhalloweenchap110160sc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/transload.php)
I would love to see this in the movie:up: it would be great scene and better then Batman Forever where Bruce was just watching a video of Harvey getting acid on his face.:down needed character development like Batman Begins.
Avernus
06-17-2006, 07:46 PM
your sayin it like you just heard it from nolan himself. i doubt that that will happen. Joker isnt going to be moroni. it's a dumb idea.
no.
no!!! no!!! no!!! noo!!!!! no teaming up! and i think this idea is kinda :down
speaking of Nolan...you sound like Nolan himself...:up:
Nightwing
06-17-2006, 07:48 PM
I would love to see this in the movie:up: it would be great scene and better then Batman Forever where Bruce was just watching a video of Harvey getting acid on his face.:down needed character development like Batman Begins.
Exactly. It would allow people to see that he was there when it happend, not as Bruce Wayne or Batman. Not to mention staying true to The Long Halloween, if a lot of it's elements are used for the sequel.
Joe Kerr
06-17-2006, 08:09 PM
it should be true to "The Long Halloween" :p
Nightwing
06-17-2006, 11:15 PM
it should be true to "The Long Halloween" :p
Of course. But there are other novels that may be based upon for the sequel, particularly for Joker.
Joe Kerr
06-17-2006, 11:18 PM
like "the killing joke" maybe???
Nightwing
06-17-2006, 11:24 PM
Exactly. Or, another novel like Arkham Asylum. The Man Who Laughs, is another one. Mainly because it's the retelling of the first meeting between Batman and Joker.
Joe Kerr
06-17-2006, 11:25 PM
i'll have to check those books out, thanks bats
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