The Art of Civility Revisited

[Showtime]

I don't open many threads, only if I have some news about Superman Returns that I know hasn't been posted. You also may notice I pretty much stay in the Superman area of the boards, especially Superman Returns. So I know almost all of the posters that frequent this area of the boards and I have seen the good, bad, and the ugly.

I know C. Lee opened a similar thread and it was closed because things had gotten out of hand. I would like to give it another shot, and if I am out of line then the MODS are free to close it. I am betting that we can come in here and vent and hash out arguments by discussing them open and honestly. How can this area of the boards improve and how can we do it together? This isn't a thread to start arguments but talk about improving as posters.

I believe if we use this thread to our advantage then it will serve a purpose and to get a better understanding of who we are as posters and how we can improve so we can at least be civil to each other when disscussing the differing opions.

"There will be peace. There will be peace when the people of the boards, want it so badly, that the MODS will have no choice but to give it to them. I just wish you could all see The Hype the way that I see it. Because when you really look at it, it's just one forum."

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I don't open many threads, only if I have some news about Superman Returns that I know hasn't been posted. You also may notice I pretty much stay in the Superman area of the boards, especially Superman Returns. So I know almost all of the posters that frequent this area of the boards and I have seen the good, bad, and the ugly.

I know C. Lee opened a similar thread and it was closed because things had gotten out of hand. I would like to give it another shot, and if I am out of line then the MODS are free to close it. I am betting that we can come in here and vent and hash out arguments by discussing them open and honestly. How can this area of the boards improve and how can we do it together? This isn't a thread to start arguments but talk about improving as posters.

I believe if we use this thread to our advantage then it will serve a purpose and to get a better understanding of who we are as posters and how we can improve so we can at least be civil to each other when disscussing the differing opions.

"There will be peace. There will be peace when the people of the boards, want it so badly, that the MODS will have no choice but to give it to them. I just wish you could all see The Hype the way that I see it. Because when you really look at it, it's just one forum."

Good post. I agree with you fully. I just hope everyone else feels the same way.

Your effort to make this a better place for everyone is commendable. :up:

I salute you.

[TrailerMusic]

Good post. I agree with you fully. I just hope everyone else feels the same way.

Your effort to make this a better place for everyone is commendable. :up:

I salute you.

I think he stole that from C.Lees thread but good points either way

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I think he stole that from C.Lees thread but good points either way

Stealing isn't the proper word. More like borrowing ;)

[Showtime]

I think he stole that from C.Lees thread but good points either way

Stole what, I didn't steal anything form C. Lee's thread but I borrowed the idea. :up:

[Superfreak]

ingenius, take that in whatever way you want

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Stole what, I didn't borrow anything form C. Lee's thread but the idea. :up:

It doesn't matter Showtime. You had the intelligence and decency to post this for everyone here. Thank you for taking the initative :up:

[Cinemaman]

I don't open many threads, only if I have some news about Superman Returns that I know hasn't been posted. You also may notice I pretty much stay in the Superman area of the boards, especially Superman Returns. So I know almost all of the posters that frequent this area of the boards and I have seen the good, bad, and the ugly.

I know C. Lee opened a similar thread and it was closed because things had gotten out of hand. I would like to give it another shot, and if I am out of line then the MODS are free to close it. I am betting that we can come in here and vent and hash out arguments by discussing them open and honestly. How can this area of the boards improve and how can we do it together? This isn't a thread to start arguments but talk about improving as posters.

I believe if we use this thread to our advantage then it will serve a purpose and to get a better understanding of who we are as posters and how we can improve so we can at least be civil to each other when disscussing the differing opions.

"There will be peace. There will be peace when the people of the boards, want it so badly, that the MODS will have no choice but to give it to them. I just wish you could all see The Hype the way that I see it. Because when you really look at it, it's just one forum."

You da Man! :up:

Best thread about posters :up:

[DorkyFresh]

as much as i would love for this thread to work i just don't see that happening. as long as there are opinions there will be conflict, but.....best of luck to this thread.

[Showtime]

as much as i would love for this thread to work i just don't see that happening. as long as there are opinions there will be conflict, but.....best of luck to this thread.

It will work if the posters want it to work. If not, it will turn into a shooting gallery, I am prepared either way. I am not expecting a schmoozfest but I thought that it would open up things for discussion. Who knows, we might all learn something.

[DorkyFresh]

well showtime...if there's anyone here that can inspire people to discuss Superman while being civil and fair, it's you. i hope the thread will work because i'd love to be able to calmly discuss the ups and downs of Superman for once.

[Captain Villa]

I particulary don't want it too.

There are too many people and wannabee mods here that start the crap and act all angelic afterwards.

Leave the modding to the mods and report post button.

[Showtime]

well showtime...if there's anyone here that can inspire people to discuss Superman while being civil and fair, it's you. i hope the thread will work because i'd love to be able to calmly discuss the ups and downs of Superman for once.

I am not trying to preach or say that I am a model poster, because I am not. I am hoping we can hash out differences and realize it shouldn't have such an effect on us going forward. :O

[TrailerMusic]

It will work if the posters want it to work. If not, it will turn into a shooting gallery, I am prepared either way. I am not expecting a schmoozfest but I thought that it would open up things for discussion. Who knows, we might all learn something.

It did not work when a Mod tried it. it wont work now

[Showtime]

It did not work when a Mod tried it. it wont work now

Actually it did work for awhile. It took on a different form than he intended but it was a nice little thread.

[TrailerMusic]

Actually it did work for awhile. It took on a different form than he intended but it was a nice little thread.

But we all know how these types of Threads end up

[Showtime]

But we all know how these types of Threads end up

Depends whose posting in them and what they are posting. We'll see I guess.

[DorkyFresh]

lol...you guys are quoting each other even though you're posting right after each other.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I particulary don't want it too.

There are too many people and wannabee mods here that start the crap and act all angelic afterwards.

Leave the modding to the mods and report post button.

The Capt. has spoken!


... as if it matters. :o

[Showtime]

lol...you guys are quoting each other even though you're posting right after each other.

Sometimes it's better like that. I love to just post my reply right after the post itself, but sometimes you run into issues. Somebody posts in between or what not. It happens. :(

[Steelsheen]

good thread Showtime.

now if you can get the extremists on both camps to look at this and agree then they should make you mediator in the Middle East ;).

the only suggestion i can make to keep things civil (and i hope the Mods wont take this the wrong way because i mean well here) is to have more interactions with the Mods, not just seeing them when things get out of hand or when they start editing posts or deleting threads, but to actually interact with the members of the forum. it actually helps when members read how Mods think or feell about one topic or another. after all the best way to lead is by example innit?



Mods, please dont get me wrong, you all are doing a good job so far. i'm just basing my suggestion on my experience when i handled a popular forum like this one, so the problems are all too familiar. Nevertheless keep up the good work :up:

[Showtime]

The Capt. has spoken!


... as if it matters. :o

He's got a point about the report post button though. I actually have never used it myself but it is handy instead of getting into a flaming contest with somebody.

[DorkyFresh]

Sometimes it's better like that. I love to just post my reply right after the post itself, but sometimes you run into issues. Somebody posts in between or what not. It happens. :(

i know...not everyone can have the uncanny posting skills that i posses. :D j/m

[Showtime]

good thread Showtime.

now if you can get the extremists on both camps to look at this and agree then they should make you mediator in the Middle East ;).

the only suggestion i can make to keep things civil (and i hope the Mods wont take this the wrong way because i mean well here) is to have more interactions with the Mods, not just seeing them when things get out of hand or when they start editing posts or deleting threads, but to actually interact with the members of the forum. it actually helps when members read how Mods think or feell about one topic or another. after all the best way to lead is by example innit?

[szie=1]Mods, please dont get me wrong, you all are doing a good job so far. i'm just basing my suggestion on my experience when i handled a popular forum like this one, so the problems are all too familiar. Nevertheless keep up the good work :up:[/size]

My favorite is when a Mod just makes an appearance in the thread. They haven't addressed the issue that is brewing, but they just pop in and respond to somebody to get it back on topic. I like that style, usually the thread gets on course without a hitch, I called it, "The Hit and Run Method".

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

He's got a point about the report post button though. I actually have never used it myself but it is handy instead of getting into a flaming contest with somebody.

I just used it to inform the mods about The Official Green Lantern Casting Thread. It's been deleted, btw. So, the report post button actually works.

[Hunter Rider]

great thread idea:up: the biggest problem here is force feeding of views
Some just can;t accept that someone See's an aspect of the movie in a different way to them and suddenly they are no longer discussing the point they are calling the other Poster names b/c they won't agree with them

[Showtime]

I just used it to inform the mods about The Official Green Lantern Casting Thread. It's been deleted, btw. So, the report post button actually works.

That's fantastic. Does that mean you are 1 for 1? :eek:

[Showtime]

great thread idea:up: the biggest problem here is force feeding of views
Some just can;t accept that someone See's an aspect of the movie in a different way to them and suddenly they are no longer discussing the point they are calling the other Poster names b/c they won't agree with them

That IS the biggest problem. We should all be able to look at the production of Returns and comment on it whichever way we please. The problem is that some of the posters that are positive about production aren't accepting a snippit of negativity. The problem is that those who are negative about one aspect might be positive about another. Most of us don't take the time to find out and jump on them.

[Steelsheen]

My favorite is when a Mod just makes an appearance in the thread. They haven't addressed the issue that is brewing, but they just pop in and respond to somebody to get it back on topic. I like that style, usually the thread gets on course without a hitch, I called it, "The Hit and Run Method".

oh trust me, that works very well too :D, but for the kinds of members of these forums it needs a bit of a closer watch ;)

besides, who says a Mod has to post under their own nick ;), all thats really improtant is to flood the boards with the right kind of posts (meaning the tone) and usually everything else falls in line.

[Hunter Rider]

That IS the biggest problem. We should all be able to look at the production of Returns and comment on it whichever way we please. The problem is that some of the posters that are positive about production aren't accepting a snippit of negativity. The problem is that those who are negative about one aspect might be positive about another. Most of us don't take the time to find out and jump on them.
Well hopefully the banning of this sections biggest problem will solve some of the jumping
Guys like Cine just can't help their enthusiasm and never make it personal and i don't mind points being defended if we stick to the points

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

That's fantastic. Does that mean you are 1 for 1? :eek:

Maybe... :rolleyes:

[DorkyFresh]

well...i'm off from work. i hope this thread's still here when i get home...hehe.

[Scooter]

Look, a puppy on a car...

http://listsrv.cmsu.edu/archives/cmsuic-l/2004/Feb/att-0007/01-kj_001.jpg

[Steelsheen]

That IS the biggest problem. We should all be able to look at the production of Returns and comment on it whichever way we please. The problem is that some of the posters that are positive about production aren't accepting a snippit of negativity. The problem is that those who are negative about one aspect might be positive about another. Most of us don't take the time to find out and jump on them.

one of the big problems of these boards also is that many cant agree to disagree. its always "take no prisoners" mode. that's never gonna work, specially in a message board where 98% of the posts are opinions. i've seen threads where it was pages after pages of two people arguing and refuting every single sentence the other posted and it would just bog the thread down. they certainly know what they're talking about, its just that they wont agree that they have two differing POVs and that they should just leave it at that.

[Showtime]

Well hopefully the banning of this sections biggest problem will solve some of the jumping
Guys like Cine just can't help their enthusiasm and never make it personal and i don't mind points being defended if we stick to the points

That's how I feel about Cinnamon as well. I think he is very excited about the movie, but I still think he shouldn't try to force his opinion. I told him my thoughts on that.

[Showtime]

one of the big problems of these boards also is that many cant agree to disagree. its always "take no prisoners" mode. that's never gonna work, specially in a message board where 98% of the posts are opinions. i've seen threads where it was pages after pages of two people arguing and refuting every single sentence the other posted and it would just bog the thread down. they certainly know what they're talking about, its just that they wont agree that they have two differing POVs and that they should just leave it at that.

That is a good point. Why can't we agree to disagree at some point. I have seen some of the "Big Boys" do it on many occasions, Fatboy, OldGuy and others.

[Scooter]

I don't think this problem will ever really go away.

[Showtime]

I don't think this problem will ever really go away.

You are probably right my man. I figured we could give it a whirl. I do like puppies on a car though. Behind my goatee I am a softee.

[Hunter Rider]

That's how I feel about Cinnamon as well. I think he is very excited about the movie, but I still think he shouldn't try to force his opinion. I told him my thoughts on that.

I tend to cut him some slack,like yesterday when we were talking Lex,i think he does remarkable for his age and the fact he is ESL

That is a good point. Why can't we agree to disagree at some point. I have seen some of the "Big Boys" do it on many occasions, Fatboy, OldGuy and others.

Surely my name was missed off by accident:eek: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Showtime]

I tend to cut him some slack,like yesterday when we were talking Lex,i think he does remarkable for his age and the fact he is ESL



Surely my name was missed off by accident:eek: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

I was refering to those posters who go back and forth and tend to rip on each other for a bit before coming to an agreement. You don't fit that category you are in a class by yourself.

I used them because they can flame on while providing intelligent points and stitching witty remarks, but can also say, ok we will disagree. I rarely if ever see you flame anybody. :up:

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I rarely if ever see you flame anybody. :up:

That's what they used to say about Johnny Storm:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7444/ffjohnny20pg.jpg

And...well...

;)

[Showtime]

That's what they used to said about Johnny Storm:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7444/ffjohnny20pg.jpg

;)

That's me after a day on the Hype.

[DorkyFresh]

wow, the thread is still here....ALRIGHT!!! hehe

[Showtime]

wow, the thread is still here....ALRIGHT!!! hehe

We will see what the future holds. :O

[Hunter Rider]

I was refering to those posters who go back and forth and tend to rip on each other for a bit before coming to an agreement. You don't fit that category you are in a class by yourself.

I used them because they can flame on while providing intelligent points and stitching witty remarks, but can also say, ok we will disagree. I rarely if ever see you flame anybody. :up:
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif:up: it takes a lot to really piss me off on here,i mostly sigh and move on when someone starts with the schoolyard approach

[Showtime]

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif:up: it takes a lot to really piss me off on here,i mostly sigh and move on when someone starts with the schoolyard approach

I don't even remember what a schoolyard looks like. :(

[Hunter Rider]

I don't even remember what a schoolyard looks like. :(
glad im not the only one that feels depressingly old:( :up:

[Showtime]

glad im not the only one that feels depressingly old:( :up:

:O I feel like I am 20 years older than I am sometimes. Must be the rain that is pelting the east coast.

I am suprised I haven't opened up a tirade on the boards. I hate rain.

[Hunter Rider]

:O I feel like I am 20 years older than I am sometimes. Must be the rain that is pelting the east coast.

I am suprised I haven't opened up a tirade on the boards. I hate rain.
I wonder whether it's my age that made Routh a hard sell for me,last time we had a superman i was a kid so he was a man to me,it's odd having supes and Lois younger than i am

[nosebleed.]

I just read through this whole thread...its like a Seinfeld of threads. Lots of discussion about nothing in particular.

[Captain Villa]

The Capt. has spoken!


... as if it matters. :o


And in a thread about "Civility" . How ironic.

How I forgot not to invoke the wrath of Aramis in the 3 Muskateers of SHH wannabee mods.

:rolleyes:

[Steelsheen]

I wonder whether it's my age that made Routh a hard sell for me,last time we had a superman i was a kid so he was a man to me,it's odd having supes and Lois younger than i am

hmm... now that you've pointed that out.....

..... nah, there's just something about them two that doesnt quite make them the obvious choice for their roles. its the elusive "presence" dude. Superman and Lois Lane is more than the costume and the steel glance. unfortunately with these pair unless we see them in action we dont get that "presence". its not just you or i, lots of people i know in RL have seen the posters, tv spots and trailers and they're still not sold on teh current Supes :(. but they'll watch the movie because hey-- its Superman. :supes:

[Captain Villa]

And to you so called "GAM :rolleyes: members".........

You want civility but all many of you have done with your suck ups and quest for internet chumminess, is to create divides and lack of civility most of the time.

Also, may I point out that "gangs" such as this "GAM" idiocy are forbidden on these boards with a reminder a couple of days ago from an Admin / Mod (below)...

Dew K. Mosi

Re: Recruitment for the GLA

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm, I guess you all don't remember that I banned all gangs from these boards...
Shadaloo knows better than to have gang threads. Perhaps you should learn by their example.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9030347&postcount=200

So before people aask for civility and this is by no means any dig at Showtime because I think he is quite a neutral sort of chap, people like MEHZEB need to knock off the snide crap and then maybe we'll all get along better anyway.

[Hunter Rider]

^^^^^^Ive spoken to Dew,she has no issue with GAM and it's not like anyone is doing anything to hurt the board,i swear Villa for an older guy who was a cop you fly off the handle quicker than anyone around here

[Captain Villa]

^^^^^^Ive spoken to Dew,she has no issue with GAM and it's not like anyone is doing anything to hurt the board,i swear Villa for an older guy who was a cop you fly off the handle quicker than anyone around here


Get her to post here then if she so endorses it. As far as I see, she banned gangs.

There has been many a thread with people kissing ass to literally join up for this nonsense. It has also ruined many a good thread.

[nosebleed.]

there's gangs on shh? how very depressing.

[Hunter Rider]

Get her to post here then if she so endorses it. As far as I see, she banned gangs.

There has been many a thread with people kissing ass to literally join up for this nonsense. It has also ruined many a good thread.

Ive spoken to her in PM's and posted with her and Drak in many threads so im not hiding my sig from her but if you want to report it to her go right ahead,three letters and a bit of fun is all it is

Please show me a thread where anyone is stupid enough to kiss anyones ass to join a net group that's only benefit is putting three letters in your sig

We also have GSAC and DOSV if you want to wipe them all out but what about you and your flying off at ppl like you just did at Mehzeb ? i mean a guy your age and intelligence couldn't see that as just a joke ? you are always serious as a heart attack for some reason

[Hunter Rider]

there's gangs on shh? how very depressing.

I don't see how that word has come to be used:confused: I argue with all the members of GAM and don't defend them when they are debating so not much of a gang

[Captain Villa]

Indeed, a man of my intelligence knows damn well what a comment that contains a mad smiley, is meant for, in context. Or is it some kind of Indian joke that got lost into English ? I dont think so.

You see thats the crap with this GAM stupidity - you back each other up, when your failing on your arse with no good reason of winning that argument.

[Hunter Rider]

Indeed, a man of my intelligence knows damn well what a comment that contains a mad smiley, is meant for, in context. Or is it some kind of Indian joke that got lost into English ? I dont think so.

You see thats the crap with this GAM stupidity - you back each other up, when your failing on your arse with no good reason of winning that argument.

That's not the mad smiley,it's the embarrasment smiley
you are blowing all this way out of proportion and i don't back anyone cos they have 3 letters in their sig,i just thought you yet again flew off the handle over a harmless joke like you did that night when the guy said your thread title was misleading

[Captain Villa]

In your opinion. Smiley or not, I can read and it it is certainly no joke but a personal attack.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Indeed, a man of my intelligence knows damn well what a comment that contains a mad smiley, is meant for, in context. Or is it some kind of Indian joke that got lost into English ? I dont think so.

You see thats the crap with this GAM stupidity - you back each other up, when your failing on your arse with no good reason of winning that argument.

Dude, this is the mad smiley: :mad:
This is the pompous, smartass smiley: :o

There's a difference. And this may be written down as another one our so called encounters. I'd term this experience as an educational one. I'm learning quite a bit about you. Your problems with certain posters here. The way you label us as "wannabe mods" and the way you attack us for living a little and having a little fun. Well. It's been educational. Most certainly.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

In your opinion. Smiley or not, I can read and it it is certainly no joke but a personal attack.

If I wanted to attack you, I would have directly. No need for any side-talk. I'd say it straight up. That's one thing you could be sure of.

[Hunter Rider]

In your opinion. Smiley or not, I can read and it it is certainly no joke but a personal attack.

an attack ? a bit sensitive perhaps ? and what about your attacks ?

[Captain Villa]

Dude, this is the mad smiley: :mad:
This is the pompous, smartass smiley: :o

There's a difference. And this may be written down as another one our so called encounters. I'd term this experience as an educational one. I'm learning quite a bit about you. Your problems with certain posters here. The way you label us as "wannabe mods" and the way you attack us for living a little and having a little fun. Well. It's been educational. Most certainly.

Yes, your sub-concious speaks for you there.

May I remind you that you may have disagreed with my initial remark for which you have every right in the world, to defend / oppose as you see fit. But to attack the person because you cannot debate shows simply that you do not have the arsenal to do so.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

That's not the mad smiley,it's the embarrasment smiley
you are blowing all this way out of proportion and i don't back anyone cos they have 3 letters in their sig,i just thought you yet again flew off the handle over a harmless joke like you did that night when the guy said your thread title was misleading

There's no point arguing with him. He just hates everyone who wants this place to be better. Just because you say something like, "This thread is in the wrong forum" or "This is gonna get closed" in his mind, you are a 'wannabe mod'. Just because you make a thread like this about civility, it automatically becomes inconsequential because a mod did not start it. I think in his mind, the mods are the only real posters in the forum, and the rest of us are just here to read the posts without ever intervening in anything.

[Captain Villa]

If I wanted to attack you, I would have directly. No need for any side-talk. I'd say it straight up. That's one thing you could be sure of.


Oh and you did, I read it. Or is your english not up to scratch yet ?

Your english is fine and you damn well know what you said.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Yes, your sub-concious speaks for you there.

May I remind you that you may have disagreed with my initial remark for which you have every right in the world, to defend / oppose as you see fit. But to attack the person because you cannot debate shows simply that you do not have the arsenal to do so.

I don't want to argue with you about anything. We've been down that road before. It's just not worth it. Although sometimes I want to jump in and have a good 1-2 with you, as strictly gentlemen ofcourse, but I wouldnt want to put myself through what many posters have already been through. You'll be surprised how many people have you on ignore in this forum. And as far as arsenal goes... well, I don't like to brag... so let it go.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Oh and you did, I read it. Or is your english not up to scratch yet ?

Your english is fine and you damn well know what you said.

I know what I said. I dont know what you read. See the difference?

[Captain Villa]

I don't want to argue with you about anything. We've been down that road before. It's just not worth it. Although sometimes I want to jump in and have a good 1-2 with you, as strictly gentlemen ofcourse, but I wouldnt want to put myself through what many posters have already been through. You'll be surprised how many people have you on ignore in this forum. And as far as arsenal goes... well, I don't like to brag... so let it go.

You cant brag, because you cant, it is evident that you cannot debate without a personal attack.

You have had every chance to retract / apologise / mis-context the initial post but no, you pursue it with more insults because thats all you are capable of.

You even do more of the above again !!

As for you being a "wannabe mod", would you like me to pull up all your campaigning threads and posts ?

[Hunter Rider]

This isn't what Showtime started this thread for
Villa if you feel so strongly about a sarcastic jab then report him and be done with it,if you want GAM and what not removed then PM Dew and I'm sure she will sort it one way or another
But if you 2 want to argue why not do it in PM's b/c one harmless joke has turned into a battle and is killing the purpose of his thread

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

You cant brag, because you cant, it is evident that you cannot debate without a personal attack.

You have had every chance to retract / apologise / mis-context the initial post but no, you pursue it with more insults because thats all you are capable of.

You even do more of the above again !!

As for you being a "wannabe mod", would you like me to pull up all your campaigning threads and posts ?

You want an apology? Okay. I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I didn't know I warranted such strong emotions. The usage of two exclamation marks. Whoa. You must really be pissed. And as for me being a "wannabe mod"... sure. Go ahead. Pull up my campaigning threads. I'd like my celebrity status to be active again. Thanks for the idea Vill, your a real pal :up:

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

This isn't what Showtime started this thread for
Villa if you feel so strongly about a sarcastic jab then report him and be done with it,if you want GAM and what not removed then PM Dew and I'm sure she will sort it one way or another
But if you 2 want to argue why not do it in PM's b/c one harmless joke has turned into a battle and is killing the purpose of his thread

Yeah well. I'm sorry Hunter. I should've known he'd react this way. He's always been hostile towards certain posters. Forgot I was one of them. Won't happen again.

[DvilDog]

Ummmm. Howdy guys. *wave*

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Ummmm. Howdy guys. *wave*

Hey. *waves back*

[DvilDog]

Ok this thread is about civility? Hmm i will have to think out a very good post. Its hard to be civil sometimes. People always want to be right. I know I do and when I feel someone steps on my toes when i right i tend to be a little less civil. I guess thats my short thought of the day.

[Nivek]

What the hell...

Guys, get over it, move on...

[Showtime]

*Uncovers Eyes*

Is it over yet?

As far as I know GAM is all for fun. I have never known it to be a gang and if it is then I am not tough enough to be in it. I have never had anybody suck up to me "to be in with GAM". I have never had a MOD or anybody else complain about it besides you Villa. Not sure why it upsets you, I don't remember having any problems with you. Maybe once? Not sure.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I apologize for the disturbance, guys. I've put him on ignore. So, there'll be no problems from here on in.

[Matt]

The problem is, many posters do not want to be civil. We almost have a mob rule mentality on this board, a "with us or against us" type deal.

[Matt]

^^^^^^Ive spoken to Dew,she has no issue with GAM and it's not like anyone is doing anything to hurt the board,i swear Villa for an older guy who was a cop you fly off the handle quicker than anyone around here

What is GAM anyway? And Shadaloo is still very much around Villa.

[Showtime]

The problem is, many posters do not want to be civil. We almost have a mob rule mentality on this board, a "with us or against us" type deal.

That is part of the problem, you're right. If they don't want to then they won't but I think the gap has to be bridged. It shouldn't be black and white.

[Matt]

I tend to cut him some slack,like yesterday when we were talking Lex,i think he does remarkable for his age and the fact he is ESL



Surely my name was missed off by accident:eek: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

How old is he anyway?

[Hunter Rider]

How old is he anyway?

He's 15,i just read through his thread that is now closed that i'd missed and i think he really made a bad error there starting it off with the line he did

What is GAM anyway? And Shadaloo is still very much around Villa.

Gods Among Men,it's just a group idea that started as something of a bit of fun to try and make the boards better,didn't work as you can see,now that i am also shadaloo i have my fingers in all the power pieshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Matt]

That is part of the problem, you're right. If they don't want to then they won't but I think the gap has to be bridged. It shouldn't be black and white.
You see people like Villa and Nivek's posts. I think the majority of posters here would like to agree with you, however...all it takes are a couple of kids with matches to start the fire.

[Matt]

He's 15,i just read through his thread that is now closed that i'd missed and i think he really made a bad error there starting it off with the line he did


I think the entire thread should've never been made. You don't make a thread to tell people "I'm right, you're wrong". If he wanted to make a "Singer fans unite" thread or something, fine...but you just don't make a thread saying "Why won't you accept my opinion"...however considering his age and the language barrier, he may not have been trying to say that.


Gods Among Men,it's just a group idea that started as something of a bit of fun to try and make the boards better,didn't work as you can see,now that i am also shadaloo i have my fingers in all the power pieshttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Hehe, just remember, we all hail to Bison in the end.

[Nivek]

The problem is, many posters do not want to be civil. We almost have a mob rule mentality on this board, a "with us or against us" type deal.


Since your the by default " against" guy on the board since some of the other guys got themselves banned, your the expert on the topic, eh?

Theres no mob rule, theres no conspiracies, your opinion simply falls into the minority in the well of greater expectations. Stop trying to martyr yourself, and accept that some people actually still anticipate that the film could be really really good.

But I'll say this in the same breath, this movie hasn't become an Uber-great film event. Just because your utterly convinced it great without seeing it doesn't mean that it will be. Your setting yourself up for a big disappointment.

[Matt]

Since your the by default " against" guy on the board since some of the other guys got themselves banned, your the expert on the topic, eh?

Theres no mob rule, theres no conspiracies, your opinion simply falls into the minority in the well of greater expectations. Stop trying to martyr yourself, and accept that some people actually still anticipate that the film could be really really good.

But I'll say this in the same breath, this movie hasn't become an Uber-great film event. Just because your utterly convinced it great without seeing it doesn't mean that it will be. Your setting yourself up for a big disappointment.

It has nothing to do with martyring ones self...it has to do with being unable to accept another's opinion without attacking them.

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

You see people like Villa and Nivek's posts. I think the majority of posters here would like to agree with you, however...all it takes are a couple of kids with matches to start the fire.

http://static.flickr.com/24/42437034_869ee21e9c.jpg

[Hunter Rider]

I think the entire thread should've never been made. You don't make a thread to tell people "I'm right, you're wrong". If he wanted to make a "Singer fans unite" thread or something, fine...but you just don't make a thread saying "Why won't you accept my opinion"...however considering his age and the language barrier, he may not have been trying to say that.

He may not have,sometimes he mixes his words up,it did come off though as if he was saying that anyone not seeing greatness in the movie was somehow wrong and he was gonna show them why
Im sure he meant it differently



Hehe, just remember, we all hail to Bison in the end.

What about that coup Matt ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gifanyway i hail only to Bauerhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Matt]

He may not have,sometimes he mixes his words up,it did come off though as if he was saying that anyone not seeing greatness in the movie was somehow wrong and he was gonna show them why
Im sure he meant it differently





What about that coup Matt ?http://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gifanyway i hail only to Bauerhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

There will be no coup! As for Bauer and Bison....never before have I had such an ethical, moral, dilemma.

[Hunter Rider]

Theres no mob rule, theres no conspiracies, your opinion simply falls into the minority in the well of greater expectations. Stop trying to martyr yourself, and accept that some people actually still anticipate that the film could be really really good.
.

I think there is a diffrernce between Matt and some of the ppl that oppose him,certain ones are so overzealous that if you breath a word of negatvity they are all over you with hyperbolic condescending posts
One of the main offenders got banned for disgusting acts in the SV forums so maybe things will settle but there is still a nucleous that lack the skill that Matt has in delivering his view and basically attack anyone saying SR may not be good

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

There will be no coup!

Awwww..... :(

[Hunter Rider]

There will be no coup! As for Bauer and Bison....never before have I had such an ethical, moral, dilemma.

the seizure of power is lost:eek: .....Bauer>>>>>>>>everyone ever:( :up:

[Captain Villa]

http://static.flickr.com/24/42437034_869ee21e9c.jpg

You're just a childish hypocrit.

[Nivek]

It has nothing to do with martyring ones self...it has to do with being unable to accept another's opinion without attacking them.

I can tolorate opinions as much as anyone else. But tolorate doesn't mean accept. Just because ALOT of people dont agree with you doesn't mean they are out to get you, it's just that you feel different. When you choose to stay put with that unpopuler opinion, dont exspect anyone to adapt to you so they dont hurt your feelings. Especially when you consecutively bring in negative points and comments to a somewhat upbeat atmosphere.

Not being mean, or asking for a divide, just being realistic.

There will never be peace in the Middle East. Or these boards.

[Matt]

the seizure of power is lost:eek: .....Bauer>>>>>>>>everyone ever:( :up:

You're right. No one can beat Bauer. Not even Batman with prep time.

[Nivek]

You're right. No one can beat Bauer. Not even Batman with prep time.

Apparently, if they are Chinese, they have an edge though... :)

[Hunter Rider]

Aghhhhhhh must avoid spoilers:eek: still 5 episodes to go here:mad:

[Nivek]

Aghhhhhhh must avoid spoilers:eek: still 5 episodes to go here:mad:


Sorry, keep on watching though, it's good stuff.

[Showtime]

Guys I am only in the 4th season. No more!

[Matt]

Apparently, if they are Chinese, they have an edge though... :)

tch, 1.8 billion Chinese are angry with Jack Bauer. Sounds like a fair fight.

[Hunter Rider]

Sorry, keep on watching though, it's good stuff.

Oh i will be:up: ive heard rumblings but nothing concrete,trying to keep clear lol

[Showtime]

You're just a childish hypocrit.

That's sophisticated? :O

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

tch, 1.8 billion Chinese are angry with Jack Bauer. Sounds like a fair fight.

Don't you think they'd be, I dunno, kinda, ganging up on him? ;)

[Matt]

Don't you think they'd be, I dunno, kinda, ganging up on him? ;)

Only gives him the opportunity to kill more of them at once. ;)

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Only gives him the opportunity to kill more of them at once. ;)

Affirmative :cool:

[Showtime]

I have to say that the game isnt all that great. Fun that the actual characters are there, but the controls are shaky at best.

[Matt]

I have to say that the game isnt all that great. Fun that the actual characters are there, but the controls are shaky at best.

The game is good if you're a fan of the show...but not much else.

[Showtime]

The game is good if you're a fan of the show...but not much else.

I am a huge fan of the show, but only on season 4 about 2 DVD's in. That is the only thing I like about the game, they did a good job on the characters and there is some cool sequences.

[Scooter]

24 spoilers:

Jack kills people. :eek:

[The Game]

Aghhhhhhh must avoid spoilers:eek: still 5 episodes to go here:mad:

Have a look on torrentspy my friend, I can't stand how slow English tv is, thats why I dl every show that I like no more waiting for Sky One to get their act together.

Oh Nice thread by the showy :up: GAM are cool, well better than those DoSV jokers, say what ever happend to them :D

[Captain Villa]

That's sophisticated? :O

Well he's been portraying himself as someone that does not antagonise, then posts that picture.

[The Game]

The game is good if you're a fan of the show...but not much else.

Even if you are a fan of the show, the game still bites, which is to expected with most tv/movie inspired games.

[Hunter Rider]

The thing about 24 IMO is that it has gotten better as it has gotten along,first season was awesome,second better,third dipped and then fourth and fifth have took it to another level

[Matt]

I am a huge fan of the show, but only on season 4 about 2 DVD's in. That is the only thing I like about the game, they did a good job on the characters and there is some cool sequences.

Being a fan of the show is what allowed me to get past the poor game play. That and the fact that Christian Kane made an utterly badass 24 villian.

[The Game]

The thing about 24 IMO is that it has gotten better as it has gotten along,first season was awesome,second better,third dipped and then fourth and fifth have took it to another level

See I always felt the way season 4 ended was the way Jack should have gone out, which is why I was so happy when I *thought* 24 was over forever

[Showtime]

Well he's been portraying himself as someone that does not antagonise, then posts that picture.

I didn't realize? I thought he was joking. I have to check it again.

[Nivek]

That and the fact that Christian Kane made an utterly badass 24 villian.


No kidding, he was the baddie? Thought he was one of the best villians on Angel.

[Hunter Rider]

See I always felt the way season 4 ended was the way Jack should have gone out, which is why I was so happy when I *thought* 24 was over forever

Yeah i did to until this season started and i realized i need more Bauerhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif,hell it's Corrie and Heartbeat on a Sunday otherwise:(

[Showtime]

I didn't finish the game yet so I actually don't have a full opinion. I think I stopped on a level where I was in an apartment with Tony.

[The Game]

Yeah i did to until this season started and i realized i need more Bauerhttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif,hell it's Corrie and Heartbeat on a Sunday otherwise:(

Corrie and Heartbeat = TV hell :D

[Captain Villa]

Corrie and Heartbeat = TV hell :D

:up: and BB7

[Showtime]

Can I ask what Corrie and Heartbeat is? Or BB7?

[Matt]

See I always felt the way season 4 ended was the way Jack should have gone out, which is why I was so happy when I *thought* 24 was over forever

Cosign. That would've made the perfect series finale.

[Matt]

No kidding, he was the baddie? Thought he was one of the best villians on Angel.

He makes one of the best villians in 24...

He is A former agent who worked with Jack, turned terrorist...he is kind of everything Stephen Saunders should have been.

[Captain Villa]

Can I ask what Corrie and Heartbeat is? Or BB7?


Coronation Street - Longest soap in the world.
Heartbeat - Police show set in countryside england in 1960's.
BB7 - Big Brother #7

[C. Lee]

There is a 24 thread in the miscellenious TV shows forum....please discuss it there.

[The Game]

Coronation Street - Longest soap in the world.
Heartbeat - Police show set in countryside england in 1960's.
BB7 - Big Brother #7

English tv is great aint it :(

[The Game]

There is a 24 thread in the miscellenious TV shows forum....please discuss it there.

Jack Bauer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C.Lee

[Matt]

Jack Bauer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C.Lee

:eek:

[Showtime]

Coronation Street - Longest soap in the world.
Heartbeat - Police show set in countryside england in 1960's.
BB7 - Big Brother #7

Very nice. Only know Big Brother. You should see some of the deleted scenes. :eek:

[Showtime]

Jack Bauer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C.Lee

Not here man. It's a different world.

See I like this, this is being civil, all talking shop about something we can enjoy. Very nice. Learning some British TV Shows in the process. :up:

[Hunter Rider]

:eek:
It's a fair comment though:O

[The Game]

Not here man. It's a different world.

See I like this, this is being civil, all talking shop about something we can enjoy. Very nice. Learning some British TV Shows in the process. :up:

I agree, but we really should be civil about Superman that is the aim after all

[Showtime]

Love the avy Hunter!

[Matt]

It's a fair comment though:O

Of course it is...but still :eek:

[The Game]

It's a fair comment though:O

damn, new avi that was quick, lol

[Showtime]

I agree, but we really should be civil about Superman that is the aim after all

Very true. Let's see...

Does the early release date help or hurt the movie? I think it was in works since the beginning and I think it could work both ways depending on word of mouth. :up:

[The Game]

Of course it is...but still :eek:

I fear no Mod :D

[The Game]

Very true. Let's see...

Does the early release date help or hurt the movie? I think it was in works since the beginning and I think it could work both ways depending on word of mouth. :up:

I feel the earlier the better :up:

[Showtime]

I feel the earlier the better :up:

What about the possibility of word of mouth hurtin the movie in regards to the kid or the action?

[C. Lee]

Jack Bauer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C.Lee
Of course he is.....now on to the next item of business.

[Showtime]

I just saw the MTV Movie Awards commercial. They showed Bosworth, Routh, and Spacey in that order using shots from the Returns Trailer.

[The Game]

What about the possibility of word of mouth hurtin the movie in regards to the kid or the action?

IMO, I think the lack of action would hurt this movie more than Supes having a kid, I don't think the general public will be too outraged that he has a son, but a superhero flick with no fights, now that is a different story.

[C. Lee]

Does the early release date help or hurt the movie? I think it was in works since the beginning and I think it could work both ways depending on word of mouth. :up:
It'll get them a bigger 1st week box office no matter what.....and it'll get a lot of kids just out of school to the theater earlier.....so I don't think it will have any major drawbacks.

[Venom71]

What about the possibility of word of mouth hurtin the movie in regards to the kid or the action?
I heard nothing but bad things about X3 and I still went and seen it..if I hear bad things about SR I will still go and see it also...I will hopefully be able to catch it at 10pm on the 27th.

[Showtime]

IMO, I think the lack of action would hurt thsi movie more than Supes having a kid, I don't think the general public will be too outraged that he has a son, but a Superhero flick with no fights, now that is a different story.

So its the lack of villian thing. I will have to see the movie to see how it plays out, but going in I am not that happy about it. I can see their thinking behind it, but after the general public has seen battles with Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Ra, and the X-Men it will be interesting to see their reaction.

[The Game]

I heard nothing but bad things about X3 and I still went and seen it..if I hear bad things about SR I will still go and see it also...I will hopefully be able to catch it at 10pm on the 27th.

Oh here comes the DoSV poster boy, thats it civility over, nah i'm just playing :) :up:

[Hunter Rider]

damn, new avi that was quick, lol

Love the avy Hunter!

Had it brewing for a while just needed the final part that was just PM'd to mehttp://www.superherohype.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif:up:
Of course it is...but still :eek:

see how gracious C Lee was in defeat though :D
IMO, I think the lack of action would hurt this movie more than Supes having a kid, I don't think the general public will be too outraged that he has a son, but a superhero flick with no fights, now that is a different story.

I agree,that may be a drawback to kids used to Light Sabre fights and Spidey vs Ock

[Venom71]

Oh here comes the DoSV poster boy, thats it civility over, nah i'm just playing :) :up:
:cool: Civility...whats that? ;)

[Showtime]

It'll get them a bigger 1st week box office no matter what.....and it'll get a lot of kids just out of school to the theater earlier.....so I don't think it will have any major drawbacks.

Good point. I didn't think about the youngsters. I think that is what every studio is going for. The huge 1st week, X-Men case in point.

[TrailerMusic]

The huge 1st week, X-Men case in point.

But SR has an edge that X3 didnt. SR is 100 % HIGHLY MARKATBLE to KIDS & SR is more of a Kids thing then X3. Heck you got all the Toy Stores & just about EVERY SINGLE STORE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH KIDS out there advertising SR in some way. Kids will definitely help make this Movie a success. Something X3 never had & this is something "Cars" has

[Showtime]

I heard nothing but bad things about X3 and I still went and seen it..if I hear bad things about SR I will still go and see it also...I will hopefully be able to catch it at 10pm on the 27th.

Unfortunately I will be on a plane flying to Charlotte as the movie hits but I will be coming back to Boston the next day so I will catch it that weekend.

[Venom71]

But SR has an edge that X3 didnt. SR is 100 % HIGHLY MARKATBLE to KIDS & SR is more of a Kids thing then X3. Heck you got all the Toy Stores & just about EVERY SINGLE STORE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH KIDS out there advertising SR in some way. Kids will definitely help make this Movie a success. Something X3 never had & this is something "Cars" has
I agree about SR being more of a kids movie..but I wonder if that might hurt how it does at the Box Office.....since at most theaters kids 12 and under get in cheaper then adults. :confused:

[TrailerMusic]

at most theaters kids 12 and under get in cheaper then adults. :confused:

That fact alone if they like it should help it

[Hunter Rider]

i wonder will the kids get restless with a 2 hours 30 runtime

[Showtime]

But SR has an edge that X3 didnt. SR is 100 % HIGHLY MARKATBLE to KIDS & SR is more of a Kids thing then X3. Heck you got all the Toy Stores & just about EVERY SINGLE STORE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH KIDS out there advertising SR in some way. Kids will definitely help make this Movie a success. Something X3 never had & this is something "Cars" has

I agree, it will have a better opportunity than X-Men but it is following a similar formula with a big bang at the beginning.

[Venom71]

That fact alone if they like it should help it
True

[Showtime]

I agree about SR being more of a kids movie..but I wonder if that might hurt how it does at the Box Office.....since at most theaters kids 12 and under get in cheaper then adults. :confused:

Never thought of that, but that means they are bringing parents or siblings with them.

[Venom71]

i wonder will the kids get restless with a 2 hours 30 runtime
Good point hunter...I got restless at Kong and I'm no kid...well chronologically I'm not.

[Showtime]

i wonder will the kids get restless with a 2 hours 30 runtime

Always a possibility. I wanted to take my 3 year old nephew to be, my girlfriend laughed at me and told me he was to young to go to the movies. He loves Superman, I bought him the Superman Returns Sound Book for his birthday. Everybody gets jealous because we have a connection because of Superman. Heh Heh.

[Showtime]

Good point hunter...I got restless at Kong and I'm no kid...well chronologically I'm not.

I haven't seen Kong or X3 yet. I am behind.:O

[The Kid]

oh my stars and garters

lovely sweet perfect kids will be crying and screaming if something doesn't blow up... blah... I'll try to get a late showing...

[Showtime]

I will probably see a matinee and be stuck with the youngsters...but the theater has digital screens so that is good.

[Showtime]

After all the discussion and argument over the suit, how do you feel now after seeing high quality photos and footage? Did you change your mind either way or have the same feelings?

[DorkyFresh]

my initial reaction was that i didn't like the suit because of the high neckline...but soon after i started getting into graphic design and what not so i started to see why the person who design the suit made the suit the way it is. suffice to say, if i were in charge of the suit for the next film, i wouldn't make many changes. widen the neckline a lil, bring the belt up a tad, and we'd be good to go...

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Most people who get upset about GAM are the ones who were not invited to join.

:o

as for civilty.. unfortunatly is does not work.. nice idea C lee and showey.. but once again this thread has prooved that "certain people" cant do it. these people are the hippocrits.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

i wonder will the kids get restless with a 2 hours 30 runtimeMy nephews and Neice didn't seem to have a problem with Batman Begins and Pirates of the Caribbean's running times.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

My nephews and Neice didn't seem to have a problem with Batman Begins and Pirates of the Caribbean's running times.


:up:

As long as they are interested what is on screen.. they will be fine.:up: :)

[Showtime]

Most people who get upset about GAM are the ones who were not invited to join.

:o

as for civilty.. unfortunatly is does not work.. nice idea C lee and showey.. but once again this thread has prooved that "certain people" cant do it. these people are the hippocrits.

Actually, if you read through the whole thread there was some nice progress made touching on similar subjects we all enjoy. Things will never be perfect but there is always hope for the better. :up:

[Showtime]

my initial reaction was that i didn't like the suit because of the high neckline...but soon after i started getting into graphic design and what not so i started to see why the person who design the suit made the suit the way it is. suffice to say, if i were in charge of the suit for the next film, i wouldn't make many changes. widen the neckline a lil, bring the belt up a tad, and we'd be good to go...

I didn't like the belt logo and the idea of no logo on the cape. I didn't understand that concept until researching that the belt logo has been done and of course the no \S/ on the cape has as well.

[DorkyFresh]

well i had a slight problem with the "S" not being on the back and the "S" on the belt too. the "S" on the back i don't mind so much because, in a way, it IS kinda tacky. the "S" on the belt is kinda weird...but i understand why. Superman from the comics and the other movies has an oval on the belt......what for? hehe, it doesn't really represent anything, it's just a random shape thrown on for a belt buckle. but i wouldn't have put the "S" on it. i like most of the manips where the belt just has a blank shield.

[Showtime]

I actually like the \S/ on the shield now but I guess I would rather have seen the \S/ on the cape then on the boots. I dont really get that.

[y2jversion1]

After all the discussion and argument over the suit, how do you feel now after seeing high quality photos and footage? Did you change your mind either way or have the same feelings?

I still feel that the suit can go through minor improvements like the neckline and the hue of red that they used (if they could change it to the colour they use in the posters), and other bits similar to what DorkyFresh pointed out.

Oh and the S on the Cape instead of the belt & boots would be cool. I know people keep saying "TAS didn't have an S on the cape" but the only reason was because it would be too hard to animate while in motion - this was stated on the DVD in the features...

Routh's Clark & voice seem perfect - maybe he can do something about the hair though.

One gripe (not something that will hold me back from the movie BTW) is why they chose to do a vague sequel instead of restarting like Batman Begins - especially now that Supes does look younger (than Reeve)

Nonetheless, I'm still looking forward to seeing it on the big-screen.

[DorkyFresh]

yeah, like many others i'm disappointed that they didn't do a full restart, but i can see why they didn't. plus, seeing the NEW Fortress of Solitude is a trip since i've always wondered with S:TM would've looked like with today's technology...hehe

[Nightwing1977]

Unfortunately I will be on a plane flying to Charlotte as the movie hits but I will be coming back to Boston the next day so I will catch it that weekend.

Dude, you mean Charlotte in the state of North Carolina? Awesome!! I was born there. What you're doing in Charlotte anyway? Mock them for Panthers loosing to your Pats in the Superbowl 38 or something? I still have the scar from that lost. Heh! :p :p But have a safe plane trip there.

[Showtime]

Dude, you mean Charlotte in the state of North Carolina? Awesome!! I was born there. What you're doing in Charlotte anyway? Mock them for Panthers loosing to your Pats in the Superbowl 38 or something? I still have the scar from that lost. Heh! :p :p But have a safe plane trip there.

Yes my friend, NC. I will be visiting with a company there that I do alot of business with. I will try not to mention the Superbowl heh heh.

[Octoberist]

My honest take? I recommend reading Garth Franklin's column on Superman on darkhorizens.com.

Because this is a 'vague sequel' the comparisons to the older films will be greater than having a reboot. Meaning, Routh could do a good job, but is because he's a good actor, or a good Chris Reeve impersonator? It may not be an original take on the character, but an interpetation of another ACTOR playing THAT character. Samething with the source material.

I'm looking foward to the movie, but it could be too old school for the new generation of fans. Now, it's almost a mandate for comic book movies to be faithful to the comic books. I'm sure that Singer got that with Superman (and X-Men). But fans also like easter eggs or obscure references too. I doubt that SInger got that. Maybe that bar and the bartender but that's all I can think of. No STAR Labs. Or whatever.

I think that Superman Returns could a good start to a new franchise. I just hope that Singer can get the ball rolling..

[Nightwing1977]

I will try not to mention the Superbowl heh heh.

Yeah, if you know what good for you. Some of us has guns, being a rednecks & all. :yellow: :joker:

[Showtime]

Yeah, if you know what good for you. Some of us has guns, being a rednecks & all. :yellow: :joker:

It's ok. If there is trouble I can call on Metropolisman and his posse since they are from the area. :eek:

[Showtime]

My honest take? I recommend reading Garth Franklin's column on Superman on darkhorizens.com.

Because this is a 'vague sequel' the comparisons to the older films will be greater than having a reboot. Meaning, Routh could do a good job, but is because he's a good actor, or a good Chris Reeve impersonator? It may not be an original take on the character, but an interpetation of another ACTOR playing THAT character. Samething with the source material.



That is a very interesting way to look at it. Is Routh really playing Superman/Clark or is he playing Reeve as Superman/Clark? Food for thought.

[Sarcasm]

I have nothing negative to say about this film. I've followed every version of the new Superman film since about 1997 and have waited since S5 for a new one to be released. I could care less if it's a slight origin retooling, modified/repeated elements from STM, there's a kid, Lois has a fiance, , Lex is camp/not camp, if Singer calls it "Titanic with superpowers", there are no superpowered villians, Jimmy comes outta the closet, etc.....I'm just thrilled "Big Blue" is on the screen again. I've seen about 3 minutes of this movie via teasers/trailers/Singer's prod vids/etc and I'm totally hyped.....this movie won't disappoint!!

[Sarcasm]

That is a very interesting way to look at it. Is Routh really playing Superman/Clark or is he playing Reeve as Superman/Clark? Food for thought.

These kinda questions are usually a bit too nerdy for me LOL, but it's easily a combination of both and more we haven't considered.

[Showtime]

I have nothing negative to say about this film. I've followed every version of the new Superman film since about 1997 and have waited since S5 for a new one to be released. I could care less if it's a slight origin retooling, modified/repeated elements from STM, there's a kid, Lois has a fiance, , Lex is camp/not camp, if Singer calls it "Titanic with superpowers", there are no superpowered villians, Jimmy comes outta the closet, etc.....I'm just thrilled "Big Blue" is on the screen again. I've seen about 3 minutes of this movie via teasers/trailers/Singer's prod vids/etc and I'm totally hyped.....this movie won't disappoint!!

Very nice. Glad you are excited for it. :up:

[Showtime]

yeah, like many others i'm disappointed that they didn't do a full restart, but i can see why they didn't. plus, seeing the NEW Fortress of Solitude is a trip since i've always wondered with S:TM would've looked like with today's technology...hehe

Not me man. I don't want to see the origin again.

[DorkyFresh]

blame the artist in me. it's not that i don't like Donner's version of the Supes's origin, in fact i love the imagery...i'd just like to see the origins presented in a different way...

...for instance, Superman's suit is never explained in Donner's origin. we can assume that Jor-El packed it in the ship before he launched it, but why did he make Supes's clothes so drastically different than what the Kryptonians normally wear?

that's just one of the many things i'd address if i were at the helm.

[GreenKToo]

Ya,its the only problem I have ever had with S.R. No \S/ on the cape.I understand why,but still....I didn't like the belt logo and the idea of no logo on the cape. I didn't understand that concept until researching that the belt logo has been done and of course the no \S/ on the cape has as well.

[Showtime]

blame the artist in me. it's not that i don't like Donner's version of the Supes's origin, in fact i love the imagery...i'd just like to see the origins presented in a different way...

...for instance, Superman's suit is never explained in Donner's origin. we can assume that Jor-El packed it in the ship before he launched it, but why did he make Supes's clothes so drastically different than what the Kryptonians normally wear?

that's just one of the many things i'd address if i were at the helm.

If you were doing the origin than it might find it's way in. You have to remember that as long as it pushes the storyline forward it is fine to include those details.

[DorkyFresh]

of course...the storyline is the most important thing, but that's just one example of why i'd like to see a new origin movie.

but alas, we're given Singer's version of Donner's Krypton...and that's perfectly fine with me. :D :up:

[Showtime]

of course...the storyline is the most important thing, but that's just one example of why i'd like to see a new origin movie.

but alas, we're given Singer's version of Donner's Krypton...and that's perfectly fine with me. :D :up:

If you are interested in the his journey to earth as the 1st part of the origin than by the prequel comic. I just picked it up and it screams STM. :up:

[Matt]

This thread still goin' on?

[DorkyFresh]

If you are interested in the his journey to earth as the 1st part of the origin than by the prequel comic. I just picked it up and it screams STM. :up:
i'll definitely do that this weekend. i want to get all of the prequel comics...

[Captain Villa]

Most people who get upset about GAM are the ones who were not invited to join.

:o

as for civilty.. unfortunatly is does not work.. nice idea C lee and showey.. but once again this thread has prooved that "certain people" cant do it. these people are the hippocrits.


Really ? Most people in their 30's would consider it pretty sad that a man nearing 40 years of age, has to start a childish gang. Its more a case of disdain and amazement, than a desire to jooin in the playground antics.

As the wannabee mod above states, civility wont work when it is asked for, because half of them think they are omnipotent to such views and can declare their own but screw everybody else. Then have he has the audacity to call others hypocrites (notice the correct spelling ?).

How many official warnings you on now ?

[Showtime]

Poor Villa.

[Showtime]

i'll definitely do that this weekend. i want to get all of the prequel comics...

It's basically just STM as a comic book but I know you would like it, I thought it was pretty cool. They even had the Kents as spitting images of their movie counterparts.

[Showtime]

This thread still goin' on?

Only because Jack Bauer has endorsed it with his scowl.

[Matt]

Only because Jack Bauer has endorsed it with his scowl.

And what a scowl it is. Although, this is kinda off topic at this point :-/...it was a noble effort Showtime.

[Matt]

Most people who get upset about GAM are the ones who were not invited to join.

:o


I personally have no beef with GAM, in fact, I didn't even know what it was until yesterday...but don't you see an inheirant problem with a group made to promote civility on these boards calling themselves "Gods Among Men" (which sounds a bit arrogant) and inviting certain people to join then telling others "You're just bitter because we didn't invite you"...it seems to contradict your mission statement.


as for civilty.. unfortunatly is does not work.. nice idea C lee and showey.. but once again this thread has prooved that "certain people" cant do it. these people are the hippocrits.

Notice how the one constantly accused of being the "problem" on this board (myself) actually tried to make this thread work? Same with the other civility thread.

[Nivek]

I personally have no beef with GAM, in fact, I didn't even know what it was until yesterday...but don't you see an inheirant problem with a group made to promote civility on these boards calling themselves "Gods Among Men" (which sounds a bit arrogant) and inviting certain people to join then telling others "You're just bitter because we didn't invite you"...it seems to contradict your mission statement.

I dont recall anyone here being told "your bitter because we didn't invite you". As I recall, any membership to this GAM deal was pretty open. Hey, I got a membership, so I doubt that any group that lets me be a member have high standards.

As for the comment "but don't you see an inheirant problem with a group made to promote civility on these boards calling themselves "Gods Among Men" (which sounds a bit arrogant)", sheesh, try not to sound to full of yourself. It's a tounge in cheek reference, get a grip man.


Notice how the one constantly accused of being the "problem" on this board (myself) actually tried to make this thread work? Same with the other civility thread.

Now, dont strain yourself carring that cross, son. :rolleyes:

[Matt]

I dont recall anyone here being told "your bitter because we didn't invite you". As I recall, any membership to this GAM deal was pretty open. Hey, I got a membership, so I doubt that any group that lets me be a member have high standards.

As for the comment "but don't you see an inheirant problem with a group made to promote civility on these boards calling themselves "Gods Among Men" (which sounds a bit arrogant)", sheesh, try not to sound to full of yourself. It's a tounge in cheek reference, get a grip man.


Most people who get upset about GAM are the ones who were not invited to join.

:o




Now, dont strain yourself carring that cross, son. :rolleyes:

Am I wrong though?

[Showtime]

I thought this board was about having fun. I thought GAM was just for fun, I thought DOSV was just for fun, or Shadaloo was just for fun. It was a joke betwen me and Robo that expanded. I don't remember holding tryouts or anything.

[Showtime]

Just saw a sneak peak of POTC2 during the pre-show for the MTV Movie awards. I assume we will be seeing the same with Returns.

[Showtime]

And what a scowl it is. Although, this is kinda off topic at this point :-/...it was a noble effort Showtime.

This thread is not beyond saving.

[Matt]

I thought this board was about having fun. I thought GAM was just for fun, I thought DOSV was just for fun, or Shadaloo was just for fun. It was a joke betwen me and Robo that expanded. I don't remember holding tryouts or anything.

Shadaloo is for board domination! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH cough cough HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA cough hack wheeze heheh....

As for GAM, I dunno, the way Robo said it made it sound a bit elitist. Like I said, I don't know much about it, so I only go based on what Robo said.

[Matt]

This thread is not beyond saving.

It can only be saved when posters are willing to save it. The same with the board, and sadly there just aren't enough...too many people are taking this MOVIE personally.

[The Game]

I thought this board was about having fun. I thought GAM was just for fun, I thought DOSV was just for fun, or Shadaloo was just for fun. It was a joke betwen me and Robo that expanded. I don't remember holding tryouts or anything.

GAM are cool, DoSV were Singer stanley's

[Showtime]

Shadaloo is for board domination! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH cough cough HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA cough hack wheeze heheh....

As for GAM, I dunno, the way Robo said it made it sound a bit elitist. Like I said, I don't know much about it, so I only go based on what Robo said.

I am not sure that Robo wasn't saying that tongue in cheek but I can't speak for him. I know that him and Villa don't see eye to eye, probably most of the reason Villa wrote "GAM is SAD" in his sig.

[Matt]

GAM are cool, DoSV were Singer stanley's

What is DOSV?

[Matt]

I am not sure that Robo wasn't saying that tongue in cheek but I can't speak for him. I know that him and Villa don't see eye to eye, probably most of the reason Villa wrote "GAM is SAD" in his sig.

Yea well, everyone knows Villa is a jerk...sooooo....let him put what he wants in his sig.

[Showtime]

GAM are cool, DoSV were Singer stanley's

I can't speak for anybody else in GAM or on the boards, but I try my best not to take sides or dismiss opinions no matter what my own thoughts are.

[Showtime]

What is DOSV?

Defenders of Singer's Vision.

[Showtime]

Yea well, everyone knows Villa is a jerk...sooooo....let him put what he wants in his sig.

I want him to put me in his Sig. It's good publicity.

[The Game]

What is DOSV?

DoSV=Defenders of Singers Vision, they were a real sorry group

[Nivek]

Am I wrong though?


Um, that was a little tounge on cheek humer. Seriously, why is this GAM thing even an issue?

[C. Lee]

Um, that was a little tounge on cheek humer. Seriously, why is this GAM thing even an issue?
Ummm....because some people can't get through the day without complaining about something?

[Showtime]

I should have named it SPAM because it creates alot of it. Heh Heh.

It's all in good fun, just like everything else on these boards should be.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Am I wrong though?


dude i was joking.. i was poking fun at what was being said.

:)

[Captain Villa]

I personally have no beef with GAM, in fact, I didn't even know what it was until yesterday...but don't you see an inheirant problem with a group made to promote civility on these boards calling themselves "Gods Among Men" (which sounds a bit arrogant) and inviting certain people to join then telling others "You're just bitter because we didn't invite you"...it seems to contradict your mission statement.



Notice how the one constantly accused of being the "problem" on this board (myself) actually tried to make this thread work? Same with the other civility thread.

Matt for the first time, I really agree with you.

:up:

[Captain Villa]

Ummm....because some people can't get through the day without complaining about something?


Ummm....because a lot of the antagonists have GAM in their sig, then spout about peace afterwards ??!

As per my other post, this was from your fellow mod and site administrator and posted within the last few days.

Dew K. Mosi

Re: Recruitment for the GLA

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmmm, I guess you all don't remember that I banned all gangs from these boards...
Shadaloo knows better than to have gang threads. Perhaps you should learn by their example.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9030347&postcount=200

I agree that some people will take this as tongue in cheek humour but there are a few of them who are now taking it as a way of life and chastising others on the boards, when that is what you mods are here for. Even worse, I have seen them even gang up on tothers, myself included. Saying that it's not too hard to defend yourself against certain intellects.

If something needs sorting out, then press the report post button, I do and it is always dealt with silently and effectively without the need for hoo-haa which results in pages of this rubbish.

[Matt]

dude i was joking.. i was poking fun at what was being said.

:)

I see, in that case my sincerest apologies Robo. Like I said, I don't know much about GAM, I however shouldn't have doubted you, you're a stand up guy, a real ace in my book :up:

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I see, in that case my sincerest apologies Robo. Like I said, I don't know much about GAM, I however shouldn't have doubted you, you're a stand up guy, a real ace in my book :up:



Matt.. no need to apologise.

:)

:up:

[Nivek]

Ummm....because a lot of the antagonists have GAM in their sig, then spout about peace afterwards ??!

Antagonists? Are you referring to me, or the other 10 people who have that sig?

Really crossing some lines here, villa. Im pretty dissapointed in you.

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Antagonists? Are you referring to me, or the other 10 people who have that sig?

Really crossing some lines here, villa. Im pretty dissapointed in you.


i can see his reply when you quote..

nobody is hurting anyone... its a symble.

[Nivek]

Ummm....because some people can't get through the day without complaining about something?

Point taken. God forbid we actually discuss Superman a day without going all Sean Penn with a pillowcase with cans of soda in it.

[LexCorp]

Good post. I agree with you fully. I just hope everyone else feels the same way.

Your effort to make this a better place for everyone is commendable. :up:

I salute you.

Hoorah for kind people

[Nivek]

i can see his reply when you quote..

nobody is hurting anyone... its a symble.


Its just really sad to see him getting this personal. We are all supposed to be fans here, the GAM thing was NEVER anything serious, why take so much offence?

[Showtime]

The antics of some people.

Fun is fun, when fun is sucked out of the boards what is the point of posting? If some posters want to take this seriously that is for them to decide. For me, this is fun and something to do to when I am at my desk at work or at home and have some time to kill. Nothing more, nothing less.

[LexCorp]

The antics of some people.

Fun is fun, when fun is sucked out of the boards what is the point of posting? If some posters want to take this seriously that is for them to decide. For me, this is fun and something to do to when I am at my desk at work or at home and have some time to kill. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yep this is my filler of life. When I have my rare few minutes from living I come here every month or so....

[The Kid]

I'm a god among kittens.

[Showtime]

I found it Wes, let's see if it still has any merit.

[TrailerCues]

After a big thread like the Box Office thread being closed because of so much bickering I doubt it

[BatFitz]

as much as i would love for this thread to work i just don't see that happening. as long as there are opinions there will be conflict, but.....best of luck to this thread.

True...but sometimes, the opinions are used as weapons against people with other opinions...so there are opinions and then there are attacks, and sadly the latter happens more frequently here

[Showtime]

There will never be an end to differening opinions, which means there will not be a complete end to the attacks on this area of the board. The question is can we disagree in a civil manner? Sometimes I see it, and sometimes we can't do it, and it becomes contagious.

[Spare-Flair]

Peace on messageboards is like trying to achieve utopia. It will never happen because it doesn't exist.

If you try to reign in people or enforce an artificial peace, you'll create your own suffocating forum of cold effect and boredom like the culture on Krypton.

[Hunter Rider]

A timely bump after the closing of the BO thread Showy:up:it seems that some are now using the BO as a "we told you it sucked" mechanism which is really not the case IMO,of course both sides were spinning like crazy but some were in it for the pleasure of it's failure,lets hope we can get back to where it was a few weeks ago but i get the feeling given the mass polar opposite views SR has created that no level ground can be reached

[Showtime]

Peace on messageboards is like trying to achieve utopia. It will never happen because it doesn't exist.

If you try to reign in people or enforce an artificial peace, you'll create your own suffocating forum of cold effect and boredom like the culture on Krypton.

Nice analogy. Isn't that what has become of the boards though? Seperate threads for those with differing opinions.

[Showtime]

A timely bump after the closing of the BO thread Showy:up:it seems that some are now using the BO as a "we told you it sucked" mechanism which is really not the case IMO,of course both sides were spinning like crazy but some were in it for the pleasure of it's failure,lets hope we can get back to where it was a few weeks ago but i get the feeling given the mass polar opposite views SR has created that no level ground can be reached

I try to pull this out of the woodwork whenever I see fit, you can only play a card for so long. I always liked the idea of this thread, since C. Lee opened the original. Let's see if it survives another go around.

I agree, it turned into a thread ripping the movie or defending the movie, the box office justifying the fact that it was horrible to some, to others it meant that people were missing out on something great.

I miss the box office thread already because I loved to see how some of the posters compiled statistics to form their opinions on box office trends. It was pretty damn cool to me. :O

[Steelsheen]

they've shut down the BO Thread

then the Complaints thread.

oh well, they were good while they lasted :O

[C. Lee]

Nice analogy. Isn't that what has become of the boards though? Seperate threads for those with differing opinions.
Not anymore....they are both closed....I am absolutely sick and tired of the whining and everyone acting like 3 year olds.

[Showtime]

Not anymore....they are both closed....I am absolutely sick and tired of the whining and everyone acting like 3 year olds.

What else could you do?

I would have done the same, all the whining and complaining sucks the fun out this place.

[GL's Light]

Imagine my suprise to log on and see the box office thread shut down! I hadn't much time to post lately, but I was planning on seeing it through to the end. Oh well, c'est la vie.

Now, shall we argue about whether to be civil. ;)

[Showtime]

Imagine my suprise to log on and see the box office thread shut down! I hadn't much time to post lately, but I was planning on seeing it through to the end. Oh well, c'est la vie.

Now, shall we argue about whether to be civil. ;)

It's a shame, but what can you do.

I for one always looked forward to your posts GL. :up:

[C. Lee]

What else could you do?

I would have done the same, all the whining and complaining sucks the fun out this place.
Absolutely. No one knows how to discuss things anymore. If someone has an opinion that is different from yours...that doesn't automaticly make them the devil's spawn without a brain....it makes them someone with a different opinion.

First poster calls someone a bad name.
Second poster calls him a name back.
First poster PMs me and complains about being called a name.
Second poster PMs me and complains about being called a name.
Before I can get here...the two posters have spent three pages calling each other bad names and have now drawn several other posters into the argument.
I show up...tell people to stop arguing....and get called a Nazi for not allowing the sweet little angles here to freely express themselves.

[Hunter Rider]

I try to pull this out of the woodwork whenever I see fit, you can only play a card for so long. I always liked the idea of this thread, since C. Lee opened the original. Let's see if it survives another go around.

I agree, it turned into a thread ripping the movie or defending the movie, the box office justifying the fact that it was horrible to some, to others it meant that people were missing out on something great.

I miss the box office thread already because I loved to see how some of the posters compiled statistics to form their opinions on box office trends. It was pretty damn cool to me. :O

Yeah GL was awesome and pretty accurate with his stats and predictions

I think sadly the hate for the movie is so strong within some and the love so strong in others that they are all unable to discuss it civily b/c they all won't accept or even entertain a view or take on a scene/piece of dialogue etc that isn't either loaded with hate or loaded with praise,they won't have a middle ground it's all or nothing

[GL's Light]

It's a shame, but what can you do.

I for one always looked forward to your posts GL. :up:
Thank you very much. That was very civil of you. Heh, heh. :) :O

[KaptainKrypton]

What else could you do?

I would have done the same, all the whining and complaining sucks the fun out this place.
At times it has. But it goes in cycles. I remember (as I'm sure you do) of the negative/positive fervor upon the release of the first suit pic. Even if I get into a heated discussion, I try (but don't always succeed) in keeping it at least semi-civil. People are human, though, so I expect a little discontent every now and again. My kill reflex goes into overdrive at the mention of Smallville. I may need therapy to cure my hatred of that show.

[Showtime]

Absolutely. No one knows how to discuss things anymore. If someone has an opinion that is different from yours...that doesn't automaticly make them the devil's spawn without a brain....it makes them someone with a different opinion.

First poster calls someone a bad name.
Second poster calls him a name back.
First poster PMs me and complains about being called a name.
Second poster PMs me and complains about being called a name.
Before I can get here...the two posters have spent three pages calling each other bad names and have now drawn several other posters into the argument.
I show up...tell people to stop arguing....and get called a Nazi for not allowing the sweet little angles here to freely express themselves.

The arguments really are textbook on these boards, it's almost as if you know what's going to happen before it does. What you have written above is almost like a script to the back and forth on these boards.

Then when you or another MOD steps in, whatever you do is wrong. "You're biased", "You're unfair", "You're wrong". You can't win my man, but I know all of you do your best.

[Showtime]

Yeah GL was awesome and pretty accurate with his stats and predictions

I think sadly the hate for the movie is so strong within some and the love so strong in others that they are all unable to discuss it civily b/c they all won't accept or even entertain a view or take on a scene/piece of dialogue etc that isn't either loaded with hate or loaded with praise,they won't have a middle ground it's all or nothing

No doubt about it, GL was and is my go to guy for Box Office from here on in.

It really is sad Hunt, I love movies and I love Superman. This is a great place for me to kill time and clear my head. Met alot of cool people, some I have become pretty damn close with, heck you can even do business. I am writing a script with Metropolisman and Shamik is doing all the reference art for us.

What can you do? I try not to get sucked into it.

[GL's Light]

There's nothing wrong with expressing opinions, even in rather extreme forms, people just shouldn't cast aspersions on those who hold the opposite view. Saying, "I really hate the design of the Superman suit in SR," is fine, but saying, "The design of the suit sucks and anyone who likes it is an idiot," isn't fine.