Poll:Wolverine Rating

[xwolverine2]

seeing as this is wolverine and he cuts people....

this can either be taken in two directions.... Quentin tarantino gore fest or matrix style non-bloody stuff

what should this movie be rated?

WHAT SHOULD IT BE RATED!! NOT WHAT IT WILL BE RATED!!

[ComicKoryn]

rofl, two votes for NC-17 and none for anything else, I love it

Wolverine: Rough and Wild

[Warhammer]

It wil probably be PG-13 for everyone to see.
I wouldn't mind an R if it was rated that.

[Kmack]

^Ditto.

[xwolverine2]

who the hell wanted a pg-13 rating!?

reveal yourself so i could slap you

[Drago]

'R' would be the best scenario, but if they gear that towards an older audience I'm afraid we'll get a kid-targeted "Young X-Men" (X4). If that happens, I say make Wolverine PG-13, if that's not an issue, why not 'R'.

[Iceman/Psylocke]

R

Although I don't know whether the studio will go for this. Fox will find it difficult to see past potential box office issues.

[PWN3R]

I want R, and it SHOULD be R.

But, FOX isn't going to let their lover, Wolverine, go with an R movie. They want everyone to see this film, and it prolly will be PG-13.

[WildCard]

The ideal rating would be R. What we'll get is PG-13.

[xwolverine2]

if everyone here wants an R rating then why is nobody voting "R"??????????????????????????????

[lordofthenerds]

R This should be hardcore blood. :o

[Leon_0]

R. Wolverine is too badass to have a pg-13 movie.

[Drago]

'R' isn't impossible though- we're going to have a very small budget compared to all the other x-films, and FOX just broke Tuesday B.O. records with "The Omen"- showing them that they can have success with an 'R' film.

[Farren]

Wolverine just isn't a PG-13 character. To really shine he needs an R-rated movie.

[Spider-Fan83]

oh ya, we need a R on this one, we already saw this pg-13 version of him

[JustABill]

It will be PG-13 at highest.

Fox won't make this R. Though they should. But they'll want to captizale on all the little boys that love Wolverine too, not just their fathers. And not just their mothers who thinks Hugh's sexy.

[Cyclops]

I'd love to see an R-rated Wolverine movie with the graphic violence-level at about where Punisher was.

But FOX's Wolverine has become too sensitive, too in-touch with his emotions, and this is what audiences will expect to see, so if they get an R-rated Wolverine where Logan acts CORRECTLY, they'll be shocked.

[Dr.Dude]

R, obviously.

But I wouldn't be destroyed if it was PG-13, since that's what I'm kinda expecting.... just still holding out some little glimmer of hope for that R rating. ;)

[Rowen]

i don't think it will be R but i think it will be pg -13. now i can see wolverine in animation like how bloody spawn was. but i don't think the execs would want to make a wolverine cartoon thats really bloody & gorey.

[Spidey1111]

Didn't Marvel say that all it's films would be PG-13 except for The Punisher 2? I would still like to see a R rated Wolverine though.

[Drago]

I'd love to see an R-rated Wolverine movie with the graphic violence-level at about where Punisher was.

But FOX's Wolverine has become too sensitive, too in-touch with his emotions, and this is what audiences will expect to see, so if they get an R-rated Wolverine where Logan acts CORRECTLY, they'll be shocked.

Do you think Logan will still be emotional and stuff in future films?

I don't think so- his healing ability is symbolic of an emotional invulnerability, which I think is cool, especially when we did start to see him get emotional in the x-trilogy. BUT Jean is dead, and Rogue- who he was a friend to when she didn't have any- isn't as alienated as she was now that she's cured (unless X4 gets creative and shows Bobby not being comfortable with her now that she's no longer a mutant). I don't think he has anymore emotional attachments left- he should ditch the mansion and be a bit more savage.

[danoyse]

Whaddya know? Hugh comments on the rating issue in the last issue of Starlog:


I'm sure we'll have pressure to make it a PG-13 movie, but there's also a case for doing an R-rated Wolverine. These are the sort of decisions that we have to discuss. 'Are we going to make it smaller and really get into the character?'

So the tone of Wolverine is something Jackman is still wrestling with. "Truth be told, if you really want to tell Wolverine's story, you're going to have to make the movie pretty heavy at times. But can you make that PG-13?" Jackman questions. "Some directors I've spoken with say 'Oh, let's make this R-rated.' I can see that film (in my head), but there are other Wolverine movies, too. I run into kids every day who love this character. At Halloween, I see little Wolverines running around. I don't want to make a film that excludes them, and maybe we don't need to."


And if you're wondering why Hugh has so much input on the rating of the film--the article also mentions that his production company is producing it with Fox.

[xwolverine2]

can i hear from people who want it to be PG-13???

[blind_fury]

no cuz they're a bunch of weak-wristed sissies. lol!

[TheVileOne]

It doesn't matter if they want to make it rated R or not.

Fox won't let it into theatres with an R rating. See Daredevil.

[danoyse]

I agree. If there hadn't been an X-Men movie series before this, maybe they would consider an R-rated movie, but not at this point.

[Drago]

It doesn't matter if they want to make it rated R or not.

Fox won't let it into theatres with an R rating. See Daredevil.

Daredevil is a VERY different situation. While I'm not saying "Wolverine" will definitely be 'R', Daredevil was really a test for FOX to see if a not-so-well-known comic character could be a success, so they had a lot of control over it. "Wolverine" will have a smaller budget, and FOX's advertising team is tops- 'R' is certainly possible.

If it is 'R', I hope its for legitimate reason (intensity, tone, etc.), and not just for the sake of throwing in gore or profanity.

[blind_fury]

If it's not rated R I'm not going to pay to see it. It's simple as that.

[TheVileOne]

Daredevil is a VERY different situation. While I'm not saying "Wolverine" will definitely be 'R', Daredevil was really a test for FOX to see if a not-so-well-known comic character could be a success, so they had a lot of control over it. "Wolverine" will have a smaller budget, and FOX's advertising team is tops- 'R' is certainly possible.

If it is 'R', I hope its for legitimate reason (intensity, tone, etc.), and not just for the sake of throwing in gore or profanity.

Wolverine won't have a smaller budget than Daredevil.

And if Daredevil won't get released as R, there's no chance in hell of Wolverine getting the R treatment.

Once again, Alien vs. Predator = PG-13 from TWO R-rated movie series.

[xwolverine2]

It doesn't matter if they want to make it rated R or not.

Fox won't let it into theatres with an R rating. See Daredevil.
did you vote pg-13???

If it's not rated R I'm not going to pay to see it. It's simple as that.
thats very ignorant of you....

[Logan Howlett]

It would be best if they did it R especialy if they go into what happened in Japan. But if they make it PG-13 I will still love it, I know it. Jackman seems to love the character and I'm glad hes a producer on it, I wouldn't have it any other way.

[danoyse]

Exactly. As long as it's a good movie, I don't care what they rate it.

[Drago]

Wolverine won't have a smaller budget than Daredevil.

And if Daredevil won't get released as R, there's no chance in hell of Wolverine getting the R treatment.

Once again, Alien vs. Predator = PG-13 from TWO R-rated movie series.

According to Box Office Mojo, production budget for Daredevil is 80mil (X-Men 1, 75mil), and I don't see a need for any special effects apart from those for his claws.

I think one of the only ways FOX will go 'R' with "Wolverine" though is if they compensate with a kid-targeted "Young X-Men"/"X4". If we don't get an 'R' "Wolverine", then I definitely expect it for a director's cut DVD. The only DVD FOX hasn't double-dipped on so far is Fantastic Four (and Story has been talking for a while saying that it's coming), for a film where the majority of people want an 'R' film, if you don't get it in the theatres you'll get it on DVD.

[XCharlieX]

You know what they can get away with in a rated Pg-13 film, An r rating is not worth sacrificing the money it could earn by being pg-13.

Singer, Chris Nolan, and Even Brett Ratner knows how to not water anything down but stay within Pg-13 guidelines so I see no reason why the rating should change now. If this doesnt make money Magneto wont be made or vice versa. "Pg-13".

[TheVileOne]

According to Box Office Mojo, production budget for Daredevil is 80mil (X-Men 1, 75mil), and I don't see a need for any special effects apart from those for his claws.

Well Fox being the way it is would spend more to rush the movie than making it actually look good.


I think one of the only ways FOX will go 'R' with "Wolverine" though is if they compensate with a kid-targeted "Young X-Men"/"X4". If we don't get an 'R' "Wolverine", then I definitely expect it for a director's cut DVD. The only DVD FOX hasn't double-dipped on so far is Fantastic Four (and Story has been talking for a while saying that it's coming), for a film where the majority of people want an 'R' film, if you don't get it in the theatres you'll get it on DVD.

I say get it right the first time.

[Avalanche]

^

Agreed. FOX won't allow an R rating. Bad for business.

[Decay]

I guess it would be R or PG-13.

[phoenix_force]

R! Defiinatly!

[danoyse]

I say get it right the first time.

I agree.

The movie Wolverine already has young fans. They can't just make a movie that's going to exclude them from seeing it by giving them an X-kids movie and think that will make it OK.

Judging from the times I've seen the first 3 movies in theaters, kids like this guy. They'd be bummed to not be able to see his movie.

Doesn't mean they can't make a darker PG-13 movie. The flashbacks they showed in X1 and X2 where definitely graphic enough.

[JokerNick]

Wolverine Gone Wild............ that's what I want

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[RaisingStorm]

Only if it is rated R we are going to see good Wolverine action, anyways, they dont really enforce kids not watching rated R movies. I went to see the omen and there was this 4 12 years old kids asking me to pretend to be with them if they asked them if they were with an adult, and they never asked them. I want to see wolvie's blood lust, I want to see him eviscarate his foes, I want to see blood on his claws and maybe some hot steamy sex scene... LOL by the way, I know if os topic and I hope nobodie tries to coment about this, I am just trying to do some comunity service and tell you guya to not see the Omen, I will forever want my money back. So yhea, I voted R, wolverine is a rated R character in the comics anyway.

[Drago]

Well Fox being the way it is would spend more to rush the movie than making it actually look good.



I say get it right the first time.

I agree, the definitive version should be the theatrical... if that's not the case though, better late than never

[Wolverini]

R

Why? You cant have a Wolverine movie rated PG-13! We'd just get the same stuff as X3. Wolverine is Brutal! Look at the fight between him and the Hulk ( even if that happened in the Ultimate universe ).

Rated R for extreme violence. If they go with PG-13 this movie will be "tamed"

[squeekness]

I agree with most of you that this movie should be rated R if Wolvy is to be done properly. Some of his fight scenes have already been watered down. Realistically, in X2, when those guys stormed the house, the hallways should have been covered in blood and gore from the way he was hacking through folks. I wouldn't have wanted to se the dry cleaning bills for all that carpet....

[Rac]

R or NC-17.

[x-fan]

my opinion. film it RRRRRRRRR release it pg-13 edit the blood out for the kiddies, then give us adults our wolverine film on the directers cut dvd. cause R will hurt box office and little kids feelings. i want it R for violence not sex leave that out you can allude without showing it. if i want sex i'll rent a porn

later

[D-day]

In the UK we have a different rating system.

U
PG
PG-12
15
18

I'd love to see an 18 rated Wolverine where he goes absolutley psycho, but it'll most probably be a PG-12 or 15 with loads of the best bits cut out in the Brit cinema version. Just like they did with X3! :(

:unishr:

[Spidey 2007]

if blade can get R, then wolverine definatly can.

but vile is right they probably wont let an R past without cutting it for pg13. so id suggest whoever the director is, direct it as a violent PG13 movie so it doesnt get cut to hell.

[THE MR. TERRIFIC]

The movie will be PG-13 and this is why. THEY MAKE MORE MONEY!!! I am a very huge Wolvie fan and I would love to see a down and dirty Wolvie film but it's not going to happen because the movie studio would loose money, that's just how it is. Unfortunatly the comic book movies are made to cater to everyone not just us, the comic book fans!

[taskmaster]

Hopefully they'll release an un-rated DVD after releasing the PG-13 version for the wide release.

[Hypestyle]

for sake of avoiding any media controversies, it will likely be PG 13.. but hopefully the producers/director will shoot with an "R" in mind, so that they can do an Unrated DVD later on.. that's the best compromise I can think of..

[Gotendbz-2]

I know a lot of kids that would be sad and angry (:wolverine) if they couldnt see this movie. I think they could do a good Wolverine story thats rated PG-13. Also I am not into the whole hack and slash disgustingly gorey thing that you guys want to see, sure its not very realistic when he stabs someone and theres no blood at all, but I dont want to see so much blood that it makes you want to puke. And if they do this movie right, it could be an Acadamy award winning movie for the story, but if they do it like YOU guys want, it'll just be another action movie.

Someone even said Hugh Jackman said "Every Halloween I see little Wolverines running around" (I was Wolverine for Halloween once too).




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I am awesome!!
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[Spirit4ever]

I think Fox has an opportunity to do something unique here. Go ahead and make this film with R rated intensions. Just release Wolverine in all his gory glory.

Then they take the movie and re-edit it down for the PG-13 crowd, but release both the R Rated and PG-13 versions at the same time, just to see which one will get the most crowd. I would also think that R-Rated films could get a trifle more money because the parents have to buy the tickets too, to get their kids in,as opposed to just dropping them off of at the theater doors.

But I picked an R rated film. I think we are due for one. I'm tired of all this kiddie *****.

[Advanced Dark]

I'd love it to be R to make it real violent but hopefully they'll film it R and cut what's needed to make it PG-13 for the theatre and then release a unrated DVD. It has to be PG-13 in order to sell lots and lots of tickets so we can see Wolverine 2.

[x-fan]

i agree with you AD that is the way to do it , i hope i hope i hope.

[Mal'Akai]

Looking at how progressively violent Wolverine got through the 3 X-Men flicks, I think they should push it further and go for the hard "R" here. Lots of violence and lots of blood.

[WeaponXProject]

I want the movie to be R but you never know in hollywood. I mean Alien vs. Predator was PG-13 and that is half the reason the movie was a lack of success (the other half being the fact that Paul W.S. Anderson directed it!) The Riddick movie was suppossed to be R too and I heard that most of there takes, precisely 22 minutes of violence and cursing, were removed from the movie. And if you ever saw Pitch Black and like the Riddick character you'd understand why I am mad about it. Anyways, Hollywood has box office troubles and if the movie can sell better at PG-13 compared to R then they will make it R. Now hopefully Marvel has more say in this than they did in DareDevil and Elektra. If they go the Punisher route and take in the all around violence rather than hide the blood and guts then this movie won't be all we imagined. Frankly I hope it is R and it better be! Changing a rating to sell more tickets is wrong to the audience! Considering the audience, for this movie, knows what it's walking into they will have to, cross my fingers, make it a R.

[blueblazer2]

I Find it hard to believe They will let this movie Get a Rated R rating . Fox would lose alot of money if it's rated R

[blueblazer2]

I Find it hard to believe They will let this movie Get a Rated R rating . Fox would lose alot of money if it's rated R

[narrows101]

Hugh is doing the rounds promoting The Prestige and a lot of them talk about Wolverine. It will apparently begin filming after he wraps the Baz Luhrmann movie, which starts at the end of March, so presumably the fall. Plus, in this video interview he talks about the movie at the end - he was asked about the "R" rating and he gives an answer.

http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1056 (http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1056)

[BMM]

R would be an ideal rating simply for the fact that it allows for the potential inclusion of Wolverine's darker and grittier moments, etc. After watching the video, it looks like Jackman's been struggling with the ratings issue. The movie will most likely receive a PG-13 rating, but hopefully it will be pushed to its limits.

[Deep Thinkin'!]

ok
I want it PG-13
I can't stand too much gore and I really don't see R movies (I try to keep my mind as clear and clean as possible) they bug my conscious.

Go on ahead and bite me!:whatever:

[WeaponXProject]

I Find it hard to believe They will let this movie Get a Rated R rating . Fox would lose alot of money if it's rated R

Me too, which what was I was trying to say in my post. The point is that it has a realistic chance of being R. The Xmen movies are sold to fans and so will be the Wolverine movie.

It probably will be PG-13 but what I was saying is that it can ruin the movie whether sales amount immediately or during the DVD sales. Think about it...there is a difference.

[Horhey]

For it to be more acurate to the comic it needs to have an R rating becouse the comic has an M (Mature Readers) rating. Wolverine fights with claws and when they make contact they cut. How can the physics of this be ignored.

In the X-Men cartoon Wolverine was never allowed to cut anyone unless it was a Sentinel or somthing else that didnt bleed.

In the X-Men movies when Logan cut people the camera angles prevented the audiance from seeing the results. I hope this movie isnt similarly watered down.

[WeaponXProject]

Hopefully, R.

[Sloth7d]

Todays topic brought to you by the letter R.
I voted pg-13 though based on how you said the film will be handled. Thus thats the rating this movie should get. But the movie itself should be handled alot more maturely and be explicit to the extent that Blade was.

[Crimson_L]

R would be nice.

[storm-x-fan]

I think Fox has an opportunity to do something unique here. Go ahead and make this film with R rated intensions. Just release Wolverine in all his gory glory.

Then they take the movie and re-edit it down for the PG-13 crowd, but release both the R Rated and PG-13 versions at the same time, just to see which one will get the most crowd. I would also think that R-Rated films could get a trifle more money because the parents have to buy the tickets too, to get their kids in,as opposed to just dropping them off of at the theater doors.

But I picked an R rated film. I think we are due for one. I'm tired of all this kiddie *****.

^^ u've gotta problem with kids?? :whatever: we read comix 2, and we 2 wanna see wolvie!! :o

[NinjaTurtleFan]

It should be "R." But if it isn't than Fox better make a hard-PG-13 and at least get down to the hardcore of Wolverine. I want him hacking, slashing, and slicing people into shreds. I want to see him getting the admantium skeleton. I want to see him in a bloody, barbaric battle between him and Sabretooth and maybe Omega Red.

That's my Wolverine movie.

[Arkady Rossovich]

I would say PG-13.

[The Apocalypse]

Well if there was a rating past NC-17 wolverine should get it :D

[Cyclops]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that an R-rating is unnecessary to make an intense, violent movie. Violence in films has escalated over the years, to the point where something that would clearly get an R-rating ten years ago can pass for PG-13.

Not to mention PG-13 doesn't necessarily mean kid-friendly. There are plenty of PG-13 films that have very serious, adult undertones to them.

Basically, what separates PG-13 from R now is drugs, sex, profanity, and sadistic gore. Now while Wolverine is violent, I doubt anyone would argue that he's a sadist. And while he does have sadistic foes, I feel that implied sadism can work just as well as in-your-face sadism, perhaps even better, because the extent of it is within the confines of your own imagination.

So yes, Wolverine can be done justice in PG-13. It does not require the R rating to be intense and violent.

[Horhey]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that an R-rating is unnecessary to make an intense, violent movie. Violence in films has escalated over the years, to the point where something that would clearly get an R-rating ten years ago can pass for PG-13.

Not to mention PG-13 doesn't necessarily mean kid-friendly. There are plenty of PG-13 films that have very serious, adult undertones to them.

Basically, what separates PG-13 from R now is drugs, sex, profanity, and sadistic gore. Now while Wolverine is violent, I doubt anyone would argue that he's a sadist. And while he does have sadistic foes, I feel that implied sadism can work just as well as in-your-face sadism, perhaps even better, because the extent of it is within the confines of your own imagination.

So yes, Wolverine can be done justice in PG-13. It does not require the R rating to be intense and violent.

If you watch any of the X-Men movies with the Commentary Brian Singer and Brett Ratner say they were pushing it with scenes of Wolverine killing people. That was pushing it?

Brian said they even had to cut some of the violence out of the Wolverine vs Deathstrike scene and all it was is Wolverine stabbing Deathstrike in the stomach.

[WeaponXProject]

If you watch any of the X-Men movies with the Commentary Brian Singer and Brett Ratner say they were pushing it with scenes of Wolverine killing people. That was pushing it?

Brian said they even had to cut some of the violence out of the Wolverine vs Deathstrike scene and all it was is Wolverine stabbing Deathstrike in the stomach.

Your right. There is rarely, if any, blood on the claws and the slashing scenes are all just scraps and quick slashs instead of full on stabs and de-limbing someone. Audience friendly Wolverine doesn't satisfy as much as a more violent one would.

[Cyclops]

If you watch any of the X-Men movies with the Commentary Brian Singer and Brett Ratner say they were pushing it with scenes of Wolverine killing people. That was pushing it?

Brian said they even had to cut some of the violence out of the Wolverine vs Deathstrike scene and all it was is Wolverine stabbing Deathstrike in the stomach.

And yet Heroes is far more bloody than any of the X-Films on a regular basis.

If prime time television can get away with the level of violence Heroes does, surely a PG-13 Wolverine can.

[storm-x-fan]

If you watch any of the X-Men movies with the Commentary Brian Singer and Brett Ratner say they were pushing it with scenes of Wolverine killing people. That was pushing it?

Brian said they even had to cut some of the violence out of the Wolverine vs Deathstrike scene and all it was is Wolverine stabbing Deathstrike in the stomach.

deathstyke vs. wolverine was quite violent. wolvie stabbing her was so scary!!! :csad:

[Kritish]

NC-17?

Great idea nerds, that way the only way to see it will be to go creepy porno theatres where you might fall and break a leg from slippin' on some jizz.

[NewYorkSpider]

It will probably be PG-13

[Painman]

IF WOLVIE DOES GET HIS OWN MOVIE, IT SHOULD BE RATED R.

HE IS THE BEST AT WHAT HE DOES... AND THATS KILLING PEOPLE THAT DESERVE TO BE KILLED...NUFF:wolverine SAID

[neemer5]

Such a gritty film needs a very heavy PG-13, if not an R. There has got to be lots of violence. But I think excessive language, gore, and nudity are what warrants an R. Mild amounts of these, as long as they are not gratuitous, should be fine for a PG-13

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Should be R.

Will end up PG-13.

Duh.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

I voted NC-17, not for sex, but for violence. I wanna see Wolverine go bader/chihuahua-jitsu cutting up people. I wanna see a head on each claw, with entrails clenched in his teeth. Take the wirework of Matrix with a bloody gore-fest. That is what we need.

[Infinity9999x]

I think PG-13 would be fine. We don't need violence for the sake of violence. The more gore a movie packs it doesn't make it a better movie. Besides it's like TheVileOne said. There's no way they'll make an R rated Wolverine movie. Fox wants to make money.

[storm-x-fan]

I voted NC-17, not for sex, but for violence. I wanna see Wolverine go bader/chihuahua-jitsu cutting up people. I wanna see a head on each claw, with entrails clenched in his teeth. Take the wirework of Matrix with a bloody gore-fest. That is what we need.

what's chihuahua-jitsu?? I dont even even adults can bear so much of voilence. Head in clwas!! Makes me vomit!! :dry:

I think PG-13 would be fine. We don't need violence for the sake of violence. The more gore a movie packs it doesn't make it a better movie. Besides it's like TheVileOne said. There's no way they'll make an R rated Wolverine movie. Fox wants to make money.

I agree with u, n I just hope that Fox thinks the same way. :hyper:

Such a gritty film needs a very heavy PG-13, if not an R. There has got to be lots of violence. But I think excessive language, gore, and nudity are what warrants an R. Mild amounts of these, as long as they are not gratuitous, should be fine for a PG-13

I can see mild amounts of violence, but please, NO NUDITY PLEASE!!

[Infinity9999x]

I voted NC-17, not for sex, but for violence. I wanna see Wolverine go bader/chihuahua-jitsu cutting up people. I wanna see a head on each claw, with entrails clenched in his teeth. Take the wirework of Matrix with a bloody gore-fest. That is what we need.

The wirework of the matrix? I'm sorry, but the fighting style used in the matrix should never, ever, EVER, be in a Wolverine movie. Wolverine can't defy gravity, and he's not going to be preforming excessive ariel stylized fighting moves. Wolverine fights quick and brutal, like the other Wachowski film, V for Vendetta (the fast motion). Or Casino Royale, or even Bourne Identity. The style they used in X-men was bad enough. If they go with the style of Matrix, it would be flat out horrible.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The wirework of the matrix? I'm sorry, but the fighting style used in the matrix should never, ever, EVER, be in a Wolverine movie. Wolverine can't defy gravity, and he's not going to be preforming excessive ariel stylized fighting moves.

True, but I'm fairly certain comicverse Wolvie would be allowed to BLOCK close-combat moves more often... :D

Guy was little more than a punching bag while fighting skilled opponents... :D


Wolverine fights quick and brutal, like the other Wachowski film, V for Vendetta (the fast motion). Or Casino Royale, or even Bourne Identity. The style they used in X-men was bad enough. If they go with the style of Matrix, it would be flat out horrible.

Amen.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I think PG-13 would be fine. We don't need violence for the sake of violence. The more gore a movie packs it doesn't make it a better movie.

But it does make for a ballsier movie. And considering who the flick would be about it would be, oh, I dunno, insanely in-character. :D

You know what, screw this. True action flicks should be rated R. There. :woot:


There's no way they'll make an R rated Wolverine movie. Fox wants to make money.

Christ, think back of Mr. & Mrs. Smith. There was, like, what, 30+ people dying and we don't get to see one drop of blood in the (theatrical version - haven't bothered with unrated version) final showdown? :whatever:

[Infinity9999x]

But it does make for a ballsier movie. And considering who the flick would be about it would be, oh, I dunno, insanely in-character. :D

You know what, screw this. True action flicks should be rated R. There. :woot:




Christ, think back of Mr. & Mrs. Smith. There was, like, what, 30+ people dying and we don't get to see one drop of blood in the (theatrical version - haven't bothered with unrated version) final showdown? :whatever:


True, we don't want an unrealistic lack of blood either, but I really don't think the movie needs to be over-gory. But regardless, like I said, no matter what we want, Fox is going to try and milk this baby for all it's worth. If someone told them a G rated Wolverine movie would make them loads of cash, you can be we'd be seeing a singing and dancing Wolverine.

[Sun_Down]

A Wolvie movie will NEVER be rated R, it would alienate a huge part of the fanbase.

[storm-x-fan]

^^ exactly.

[the a1ant]

Shoot the film as an R-rated picture, but release it theatrically as a PG-13 (Release the unrated version with more violence for the DVD). :up:

[Horhey]

Shoot the film as an R-rated picture, but release it theatrically as a PG-13 (Release the unrated version with more violence for the DVD). :up:

This is probobly the best way to go. Fox did it with that abomination of an AVP movie.

[storm-x-fan]

Shoot the film as an R-rated picture, but release it theatrically as a PG-13 (Release the unrated version with more violence for the DVD). :up:

that would be awesome, though I dont think Fox is gonna do that.

[nachoman]

It sucks no one wants to make cool movies anymore, now its all about what makes the most money. Greedy sons of Bi*ches!

So while an R rated wolverine would bring out the character's full potential for violence and realism, a lamer version will be made to fill up seats with annoying brats!

Even though Hugh Jackman played a nicer version of wolverine in the X movies, he would be so awesome playing a badass, plus you can easily explain why he's darker cos its a prequel and he hasn't met professor X yet.

Imagen a gritty uber violent fight scene between wolvie and sabertooth with bloody fangs and claws. :woot:

I know its gonna be PG-13 but I still hold a glimmer of hope that a R rated wolverine will happen.

[WeaponXProject]

It sucks no one wants to make cool movies anymore, now its all about what makes the most money. Greedy sons of Bi*ches!

So while an R rated wolverine would bring out the character's full potential for violence and realism, a lamer version will be made to fill up seats with annoying brats!

Even though Hugh Jackman played a nicer version of wolverine in the X movies, he would be so awesome playing a badass, plus you can easily explain why he's darker cos its a prequel and he hasn't met professor X yet.

Imagen a gritty uber violent fight scene between wolvie and sabertooth with bloody fangs and claws. :woot:

I know its gonna be PG-13 but I still hold a glimmer of hope that a R rated wolverine will happen.

That's pretty much what I think is gonna happen but atleast you and I still hold an inch of hope that it could be R rated.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

This is probobly the best way to go. Fox did it with that abomination of an AVP movie.

'best way to go' and 'ABOMINATION' shouldn't be in the same paragraph, no matter how small. :woot:

[Selene]

And see Elektra and Alien Vs Predator.
It will be pg 13, but should be R

[raven_darkeyes]

As long as im allowed to see the film any rating will do for me :wolverine

[dpm07]

I'd prefer an "R", but we'll probably get a PG-13.

[storm-x-fan]

We (in our country) have three ratings-
U- for everyone
U/A- for people above 15 years
A- only for adults (people above 18 years).

I'm pretty sure that if the censors at all allow it (da vinci code was blocked), the arting will be A.

[Hellrider]

Definitely should be rated ARGGHH

[Gibby]

It should be "R" for sure. If it's not we'll end up with some campy hamfisted kiddy friendly CGI-fest like Ghost Rider. What a let down.
Make mine "R" please, gimme a film with a story and a dude with claws using them for the only reason that a dude with claws should have claws: slicing bad guys faces off and junk.
Seriously though, if it's not "R" it'll just be another lame attempt at taking a cool hardcore character and trying to turn him into a wussy kid friendly Spider-man type; just like they did with Daredevil, Elektra, Hulk and Ghost Rider. Look at the Crow, you can make an "R" rated comic book hero movie and still make boat loads of cash.
Remember Judge Dredd. The movie was all violent so they kept getting an "R" rating so they continued to pare it down and cut cool scenes until all it was was cheesy one liners and hammy Rob Schnieder mugs AND IT STILL GOT AN "R" RATING!!! And it sucked. As a result, since then all badass comic character's movies have been made all wussified in advance in hopes that they could stick a "PG-13" rating and most if not all of them were huge disappointments.

[d1venom]

I agree ghost rider was a let down and Wolverine should definately br rated R. I think the movie would be way sweeter if it was more gory

[ToriL90]

I think it should and will be PG-13. The other X-Men movies were PG-13, and they didn't seem "wussy". They were great without a whole lot of gore, language, and sex to distract you from the plot.

[blind_fury]

Fox lowered the rating of AvP to make more money. AvP made 38 million opening weekend.

R-rated "300" with blood, decapitations, breast shots, and chopped off limbs is set to make 68 million opening weekend.

So the whole "R-rated movies can't make money" argument is bulls--t.

[Horhey]

Fox lowered the rating of AvP to make more money. AvP made 38 million opening weekend.

R-rated "300" with blood, decapitations, breast shots, and chopped off limbs is set to make 68 million opening weekend.

So the whole "R-rated movies can't make money" argument is bulls--t.

Well, Fox seems to have realised this atleast with AVP becouse the sequal is going to be rated R.

[Weadazoid]

Fox lowered the rating of AvP to make more money. AvP made 38 million opening weekend.

R-rated "300" with blood, decapitations, breast shots, and chopped off limbs is set to make 68 million opening weekend.

So the whole "R-rated movies can't make money" argument is bulls--t.




tsk... I just can't agree with that logic... Wolverine is destined to make a hell of alot more then 68 Million in the opening and it may not be able to do this with an R rateing

Wolverine will be a summer time hard PG 13 thrill ride we all know it and it just may top off at over 100 million to open

[Snikt 6]

PG-13 is my vote. I feel that you dont have to show a bunch of blood and guts to show a good movie. I feel that they would make more money by expanding their auidience in a lower rating.

[storm-x-fan]

wow maximum people have voed for R. so i guess they are all adults....

[Darth Elektra]

It should be rated R.

[Zombie_samurai]

R R R

[Snikt 6]

Pg-13

[Colossus24]

i want to see a similar level of gore as the John Rambo trailer shows
youtube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6i090FGzQ)

[storm-x-fan]

guys just explain one thing- why is R better than PG-13??
too much violence in comix is ok, but in movies is intolerable.

[DoomRulz]

R seems a little extreme even for Wolverine, I'd be happy with NC-17...let's have some blood, but not a Quentin Tarantino-gore fest.

Enough violence that it shows Wolverine's beastliness.

[Deep Thinkin'!]

Bump

Alright, I have two views.

It should be R because that would allow you to view Wolverine's full character.

BUT

It should be PG-13 to appeal to the teen audience. Like me. :cmad:

They can get his character easily in a movie like that. They don't have to make him nice... they just have to disguise the blood/fighting.

My folks gave me a hard enough time about the "violence" of X3. :o

[coreymb16]

I really don't care, as long as it's a great movie.

[warren_sparta27]

honestly i don't see this film getting anything over a PG13+ rating, but personally i'd want it to get atleast an M rating, can't see it happening though :(

[drallig9399]

Teens, just find an adult to go with you. R doesnt mean you cant see it, you just have to be supervised so you dont interrupt the adults trying to have a good time.

To all the haters of R rated movies, get over it. We are adults and we live in the real world have you watched the news lately, its not pretty. I dont want bubblegum movies, I want grit.

Wolverine is the best KILLER in Marvel Universe he deserves a medium that lets him live up to his claim of being the best.

[weezerspider]

To all the haters of R rated movies, get over it. We are adults and we live in the real world have you watched the news lately, its not pretty. I dont want bubblegum movies, I want grit.



I want an R rated movie too, but some people against R rated movies are against them because theres a lot of R movies that have random pointless nudity and sex scenes. I don't care about that, but I can kinda see their point. Like 300, that was just a waste if screen time that coulda been used for Leonidas kicking Persian ass.

[Havok83]

I think the highest its gonna get is a PG 13

[TNC9852002]

Hey, he could squeeze in a few S and F-bombs in a PG-13 rating..

-TNC

[weezerspider]

yeah, but the violence won't be as bloody or brutal.

[Horhey]

Wolverine is not for kids! Neither is Punisher and Blade. His comic is rated M for mature readers. He has claws. He uses them. He carves people up. He chops off arms, heads, legs, and torsos! That means they bleed! Theres no avoiding it.

My avatar is the good example of why this movie has to be rated R. Wolverine stabs Juggernaut in the head, but instead of just cutting his head off when he had him paralyzed, he had Storm use him as a conductor to fry his brain. Obviously he couldnt decapitate Juggernaut becouse of the PG-13 rating.

Now imagine how watered down the Wolverine/Sabretooth fight would have to be. In the X2 commentary Brian Singer had to cut out a scene of Wolverine stabbing Deathstrike in the stomach becouse he said it was too violent even though there isnt any blood. If the movie is rated PG-13 Logan will probobly have to defeat Creed in a less violent fashion like knocking him off a mountain. :down

[terry78]

If you just want an R rating because you think you're hip and cool, you're no more mature than the kiddies you're talking about. Me personally, I think it's going to be a hard PG-13 because...Wolverine has become a pop culture merchandising blitz. If your character is on lunchboxes, sleeping bags and kids pj's, you ain't about to give his solo effort an R rating to alienate one of the largest demographics. Hell, if I was a studio honcho I'd do the same ****. Take a walk into the real world, buddy boy.

[Mr. Socko]

LOL @ the poor old fools who think this could even possibly get an R rating.

[Horhey]

If you just want an R rating because you think you're hip and cool, you're no more mature than the kiddies you're talking about. Me personally, I think it's going to be a hard PG-13 because...Wolverine has become a pop culture merchandising blitz. If your character is on lunchboxes, sleeping bags and kids pj's, you ain't about to give his solo effort an R rating to alienate one of the largest demographics. Hell, if I was a studio honcho I'd do the same ****. Take a walk into the real world, buddy boy.

Nah, I just think they shouldnt try to make the movie something that its not. I think it will get a PG-13 rating but Id be surprised if they didnt release an R and PG-13 version on DVD like they did with AVP.

[Lightning Strykez!]

This movie is being made by FOX...a studio that just released Die Hard as a PG-13 flick. :rolleyes:

Trust me when I say it WILL be PG-13.

[xwolverine2]

This movie is being made by FOX...a studio that just released Die Hard as a PG-13 flick. :rolleyes:

Trust me when I say it WILL be PG-13.

R

i trust no one:ninja:

[Deep Thinkin'!]

of course it should be R....

but I want it PG-13. There is only so much gore I can take...

Not to mention the 'rents. :o

[xwolverine2]

of course it should be R....

but I want it PG-13. There is only so much gore I can take...

Not to mention the 'rents. :o

but its comical gore that you know he would heal from.....

not torture porn

[Kira]

PG-13. Obviously.

[JP]

LOL @ the poor old fools who think this could even possibly get an R rating.


I know. I mean, seriously. :o

[enygma]

Needs to be an R (or 18 where I am) rating to do the character justice, althought I doubt that it will be, no McDonalds tie ins that way.

[Kanon]

No way it would be an R, never... And JP's avatar is mesmerizing... love the Famke...

[DoomRulz]

LOL @ the poor old fools who think this could even possibly get an R rating.

They can always dream! Don't be a hater! :oldrazz::ninja:

[terry78]

"Wolverine! "

Rated R for strong bloody violence/gore, language, and hardcore full frontal nudity.

"Mom, Wolverine is coming out! We have to go see it! I just saw the commercial, and also Froot Loops has a promotion where all the loops are now red to emulate blood, and you get a free Wolverine or Sabretooth watch on the back of the box! Yeah!"

[DoomRulz]

"Mom, Wolverine is coming out! We have to go see it! I just saw the commercial, and also Froot Loops has a promotion where all the loops are now red to emulate blood, and you get a free Wolverine or Sabretooth watch on the back of the box! Yeah!"

That'd be sweet, remind me of the good ole days back in the 90s when things were given away for free in cereal boxes lol

[JP]

No way it would be an R, never... And JP's avatar is mesmerizing... love the Famke...

Your welcome. :oldrazz:

[ReallyCoolGuy]

Of course Wolverine should be rated R.. so should have Ghost Rider... and The Dark Knight... and the new Die Hard (as is... seriously... I don't know how that got PG-13) but you know that's not gonna happen. Kids love Wolverine.

[Penismightier]

I would love for it to be rated R. But realistically, it's most likely going to be PG-13. They have toys to sell, people. Let us never forget that. McDonald's can't push their happy meals with little Wolvie toys if he's carving up people en masse.

[Sentinel X]

R seems a little extreme even for Wolverine, I'd be happy with NC-17...let's have some blood, but not a Quentin Tarantino-gore fest.

Enough violence that it shows Wolverine's beastliness.
:huh:
NC-17 = Kill Bill gore fest x 34
This equation is fact :o

[Kritish]

I doubt that an R rating would reduce the box office ratings. Remember back in the eighties when you could get Robocop and Predator toys? Besides 300 broke box office record and lord knows it was violent.

[terry78]

I doubt that an R rating would reduce the box office ratings. Remember back in the eighties when you could get Robocop and Predator toys? Besides 300 broke box office record and lord knows it was violent.

Wolverine will have merchandising though. Those other movies didn't. If Matrix had been PG-13 it would have all kinds of toys and meal tie-ins.

[Horhey]

Wolverine will have merchandising though. Those other movies didn't. If Matrix had been PG-13 it would have all kinds of toys and meal tie-ins.

Terminator 2/3, Predator, Aliens, and Robocop movies all had toys and other merchandise that were sold in stores like Toys R Us, Wal Mart, K-Mart, KB-Toys, etc. Mcfarlane produces Matrix Toys and alot of other R rated toys.

[d1venom]

I think they would've had more toys and stuff if they were pg-13

[iron_spartan]

I think R because Wolverine isn't a pansy like Cyclops.

[terry78]

I think R because Wolverine isn't a pansy like Cyclops.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

[gambit_890]

^I think what our little friend (iron_spartan) is trying to say is that Wolverine is a bit more hardcore than that frigging boy-scout, Cyclops.

R would give us the best gore and violence and perhaps a peak into Wolverine's love life :)...although they would probably aim for a pg-13 because an R would prevent a lot of the younger kiddies from going.

[ReallyCoolGuy]

this can either be taken in two directions.... Quentin tarantino gore fest or matrix style non-bloody stuff

what should this movie be rated?

The Matrix was rated R

[Karebear]

It will be PG-13 at highest.

Fox won't make this R. Though they should. But they'll want to captizale on all the little boys that love Wolverine too, not just their fathers. And not just their mothers who thinks Hugh's sexy.

*Blush* I resemble the comment about the mothers who think Hugh is sexy... as you can tell I'm a Hugh fan and a mother.

Anyway, I agree it will be rated PG-13 though I think if they could do a rated R (just for violence without throwing in sex/nudity crap) then I'd go for that one too!

[terry78]

^Because we really need to see Wolverine pile driving Lady Deathstrike. I don't know if that was sarcastic or not. :o

[Argyle of Sock]

Honestly, I could go for an R-rated Wolverine as well. The character has experienced (and caused) so much pain and devistation in his life that I think that if you were really going to do it justice it would need to be R.

That being said, it almost definitely wont be. *sighs*

[Kung Fu master]

I know this has probably been said a lot, and I know the studio would probably never let it happen...

But it would be SO badass if this film were to be rated R.

I mean, they showed a lot of violence in the X-Men flicks, but Wolverine, expecially since the movie's dealing with his Weapon X days, should be more along the lines of Blade movies (specifically Blade 2) in terms of the slicing and dicing they show.

With the cast of characters they have in this film, it should be VIOLENT. Well, not overly-gory-slasher-movie violent, ... but kinda close.

I want to be able to see Wolverine run up to a guy and just flat-out chop a leg off or something. Blood and everything. I want to be able to stand up in the theater and say "YES! Now THAT'S what it would really look like if a guy had long blades coming out of his hands! "

Now, let me say I'm not a huge fan of overly-violent movies or of violence in general. But I've always wondered what it would be like to see Wolverine go hardcore.

Anyone agree or think the movie would be better PG-13?

[KenK]

Ideally, the studio's gonna want to bring in audiences comparable to the X-Men films, meaning they have to keep this PG-13. However, that's not to say that the film won't be relatively violent to a level deserving of Wolverine. A lot of violent scenes in the Wolverine comics were more suggestive than they were blatant. Instances of Wolverine popping a claw on either side of a person's head, then seeing his face while he pops the middle claw, for example. Just knowing that he's done it without seeing it is just as effective.

[the a1ant]

I would like to see a lil bit more blood with Wolverine. Nothing too gore-y, but just something to add to the fact that he's slicing folks. His claws have been too clean in past films. :p Considering he was all bloody in X2 when leaving Weapon X, I'm hoping they keep the continuity there.

Realistically, PG13 is the way to go, though I'm hoping this film will be a hard PG13 with maybe an unrated DVD down the line.

[Kung Fu master]

Ideally, the studio's gonna want to bring in audiences comparable to the X-Men films, meaning they have to keep this PG-13. However, that's not to say that the film won't be relatively violent to a level deserving of Wolverine. A lot of violent scenes in the Wolverine comics were more suggestive than they were blatant. Instances of Wolverine popping a claw on either side of a person's head, then seeing his face while he pops the middle claw, for example. Just knowing that he's done it without seeing it is just as effective.

It's NOT as effective, I feel the level of violence deserving of Wolverine should just once move from suggestive to realistic.

The character's been around for decades, getting by on toned down/partially hidden/implied violence. If the studio wanted to make this film exponentially cooler, they would make it R-rated.

But, like I said earlier, I know the studio would never do it as it would hurt the film's box office figures. So here's hoping for an R-Rated or Unrated version of the Wolverine DVD!!:wolverine

[CeeJay]

It would be great, but realistically I can't see that happening when this is a business and they need to bring in as much revenue as possible. Giving it an X-Rating will only decrease demographic.

[CeeJay]

Ryan in Blade 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VF8bXMEJFI

[dark_b]

well there is never blood on hes claws.

what can you do? for a big budget movie you need at least PG-13.

[Jick09]

I would like to see a lil bit more blood with Wolverine. Nothing too gore-y, but just something to add to the fact that he's slicing folks. His claws have been too clean in past films. :p Considering he was all bloody in X2 when leaving Weapon X, I'm hoping they keep the continuity there.

Realistically, PG13 is the way to go, though I'm hoping this film will be a hard PG13 with maybe an unrated DVD down the line.
hard PG-13 I hope.
and who knows...an R-rated DC?
they did it with DD.

[superkong 500]

Well there's been many PG-13 movies in which they push the envelope to the limit, blood being shown in wolverine's claws wouldn't necesarily make it an instant R. There could be blood but just not gore, I don't think we will see logan chopping someone's head off, an arm probably. Most likely we will see him stabbing and slashing people across the face, I would like to see a scene in which he's fighting several opponents and in one quick move he stabs one guy in the face(we see the guy's head from behind) and we see really quick logan's claws pop through the back of the guy's head followed by his body falling to the ground.

[Leon the Professional]

Of course this move should be rated R. The main character fights with blades. I am sick of seeing his claws have no blood after impalign someone.

I understand that the X-movies had to be PG-13, but now that Wolverine has skyrocketed to mainstream popularity from those movies, it not only would have been safe for them to go with an R-rated hack 'n' slash Wolverine movie, but probably lucrative as well. All they'd have to do is keep the budget down, and people would be more excited by uncensored bloody fights than a special effects extravaganza anyway.

[Rac]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=236091

:S

[Milu]

Let's not forget the MPAA system is very screwy anyway.

[terry78]

PG-13 is the way to go. Most comic books are PG-13 for the most part, even if they are hard PG-13. They have a select few that come on R territory, but those are usually when certain writers decide they want to go that route.

[Rac]

I was watching/listening Alien: Resurrection's commentary track last night and in it Jean-Pierre Jeunet (the director) said that he was worried about the violence. That could he do it. He asked Fox and they said "Yeah it's okay. Teenagers love violence and gore in these kinda films."

How the things have changed...

[Nightmare]

no way this gets anything higher then a pg-13 rating.

[the a1ant]

Hard PG-13. I mean, most of the violence in the comic books wasn't R-rated type stuff. A lot of the more gruesome scenes were implied or drawn a certain way to not get too graphic. You can do the same on film. Have him cut someone's head off, but only show it in shadow, etc. Have him stab someone right through the chest (done in X2, and much more graphically in Daredevil). There's ways to get around it, w/o being gratuitous.

[Spider-Vader]

PG-13 so it makes money & we can get a Deadpool spin-off!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

I've always been the type of fan who said Wolverines film needs to be Rated R. Has my stance changed? Somewhat. I feel they can make it a very hard PG-13 that can still showcase Logans origins, his battles, and so forth in a very gritty and violent fashion without getting too messy.

But I'm a huge, huge X-Men fan and I'm a huge admirer of the Wolverine comics and novels. I just feel that his story can only be told in a R rated fashion that maintains the spirit of the character. But I also know that for this to make any money it needs to be a PG-13 movie too.

I will say that I hope we get a rated R Deadpool movie though. :up: :up:

[stardust]

I don't care about the rating, I want a good movie.

[storm-x-fan]

I don't care about the rating, I want a good movie.

I agree with u.

Btw i havent been here like ages, so- do we yet know what wolverine is rated??