Omega Red Thread

[chaseter]

Ok...so Omega Red got the shaft in X3. Lets hope he is in the Wolverine spinoff. Talk about possible casting rumors, post manips, and just talk generally about Omega Red and his relationship with Wolverine. Come on...he is one of Wolverine's greatest foes...he has to be in it.

Update: I thought I would post my storyline on how Fox should incorporate Omega Red in the movie.
The US and Soviet Russia are locked in a heated battle that shall be known as the Cold War in years to come. A race to gather the most destructive weapons known to man is ensuing. Nuclear tests are highly publicized yet mutant testing is entering the foreground as cunning and agile soldiers are needed on the front lines. The US's Weapon X facilites, headed by William Stryker, employed Dr. Kenji Oyama to secretly begin enhancement testing in Canada on subjects codenamed Wolverine, Sabretooth, Deadpool, Maverick, and Deathstrike to combat the Russian's Super Soldier Program entitled Omega, which translates to "the end." Omega Red, the only survivor, emerges with carbonadium tentacles to use in combat and release a biological weapon that could possibly kill millions of innocents.

[XCharlieX]

Definitely, this is a very smart decision imo. Omega red is fresh blood to bring to the films as opposed to recycling old foes such as sabretooth.

[The Top Hat]

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[chaseter]

Vince Murdocco was long rumored to play Omega Red in X3. Ratner also made the comment that Omega Red would be in Magneto's Brotherhood. My guess is due to time and budget issues...he was unfortunately cut. I do not know if Vince would make a great Omega Red or not. I would kind of like to see a more prominent actor to play the part.

[PWN3R]

Vince did say Omega Red will be in this spin off in his email, but he also said he was Omega Red in X3 soooooooo......

[chaseter]

Vince did say Omega Red will be in this spin off in his email, but he also said he was Omega Red in X3 soooooooo......
I think OR was going to be in X3 but a lot of things got cut as we all know. Vince was probably in line to play him and time and budget just ran out. I think he was telling the truth...he really has no reason to lie. Plus he is in the credits so he Vince was in there somewhere.

[Superbeasto]

SUCK IT!!!!

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[chaseter]

Congrats and nice manip. I kind of think they could touch on the story of how the US and Russia, during the Cold War, were both experimenting on mutants to make super soldiers for war. We get Wolverine vs Omega Red!

[TNC9852002]

I won't get my hopes up for seeing Omega Red, but I just wish that we had more info to work with..

-TNC

[hutch007]

he would be cool, but not as the main man for logan to beat up.

[xwolverine2]

SUCK IT!!!!

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he looks skinny there:confused:

[L0ngsh0t]

Congrats and nice manip. I kind of think they could touch on the story of how the US and Russia, during the Cold War, were both experimenting on mutants to make super soldiers for war. We get Wolverine vs Omega Red!

i definatley agree, Wolverine fighting with Maverick, Sabretooth and the chick whos name always evades me, as the Weapon X project against Russia in the Cold War who creates the ultimate weapon

[PWN3R]

Triple H?!!?!

:eek: X10!!!


:(

[xwolverine2]

triple h looks the part but hes not a good actor.....

hes uwe boll worthy:(

[PWN3R]

triple h looks the part but hes not a good actor.....

hes uwe boll worthy:(

Uwe Boll agrees with xw2. :) :up:

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[L0ngsh0t]

Dolph Lundgren for Omega Red!!!

[XCharlieX]

Someone of triple hs stature would do, but sabretooth already has that look... perhaps brown hair this time. RED hair?

And im all for the chalk skin... many mutants have blue but that cant be the only color imo.

[xwolverine2]

Uwe Boll agrees with xw2. :) :up:

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BEETLEJUICE,BEETLEJUICE,BEETLEJUICE!!!!!!!

STOP IT WITH THAT PICTURE!!!:o :(

[L0ngsh0t]

i hate to say it cause he is a fantastic actor and should not be relegated to the roles he plays, but don't let it be said that Ron Pearlmen would not own everyones ass in this movie

[Superbeasto]

hhh is a good actor... in his wwe role, in blade trinity his caracter was very lame, so who knows

[Untilteld]

I think they should go with the Origin series for Wolverine than possibly go to him bumping into Omega Red after in (Europe I believe it was I think) with Mr. Sinister.

[FaT_tONle]

Beinoff said he wants to stick with realism in the plot... that's really gotto hurt Omeg's chances of being in this film doesn't it?

[chaseter]

Beinoff said he wants to stick with realism in the plot... that's really gotto hurt Omeg's chances of being in this film doesn't it?
How is a guy that can heal his body and portrude 6 foot long long adamantium claws realisitic? I think he meant more along the lines of not going over board as the comics do. He will try to make the story as believable as he can. Omega Red still deffinitely has a chance of appearing in the Wolverine movie as far as I am concerned. They could easily tweak and slightly change OR to make him more realistic.

[Robin91939]

This is my premise involving Omega Red:

Since there has been no "official" telling of the Weapon X story I think the movie adaptation should be like this:

The United States and the Soviet Union are locked in a secret conflict. On the surface, its just the Cold War, a race to obtain the best weapon, a missile. However, it is deeper than that. They are racing to create the greatest human weapon. The United States uses the recources of Japanese doctor, Dr. Darkwind. Together, with Coloniel William Stryker, they test on three subjects, a mysterious man from Candian Special Ops, known only as Logan, a man with ties to both canadian intellegence and the CIA black ops Victor Creed, and Darkwind's own daughter, Yuriko. All of these people have something in common, they are very skilled and highley trained, but they are also mutants- with the power to heal.

On the soviets side, hundreds of tests fail, all but one: Arkady Rossovich. They implanted carbanium trendils on him....adding that to his mutation to drain life forces away, and his hateful nature made him virtually unstoppable. Soon, he turned on the Soviets.

Desperate, and with no where to turn, the Soviets turned to the United States. They needed someone to stop project: Omega Red. From direct order of the President, Department H is called in to bring in the Weapon X test experiments, for their first battle.


(I know that I made some changes, like Department H, and Weapon X being part of the US. But I think that if you still had all of the characters come out of Canadian Special Ops, it could work. If the stroy is to take place around 1964 and is to take place between Russia and someone, it should be the US. However, I could always change it to have it in Canada, and have USSR be very uneasy having to ask an ally of America for help....OR, have it be an American funded project, in northern Alberta, Canada...something like that.)


-R

[chaseter]

^Nice Robin. I have always liked the Soviet-US testing on mutant story during the Cold War. I don't think that it needs to be the entire story but deffinitely have something along those lines as a subplot. Also...we need Maverick in there along with Deadpool in the Weapon X testing. They all escape, memories wiped clean of all the events. Wolverine goes out on his own only to be taunted by fellow X mutants desperately trying to find answers. Deadpool of course goes crazy and trusts no one, Wolverine finds himself in a war that he has no idea of, Yuriko is out to revenge the death of her father...Wolverine can hack him while he tries to escape the lab, and Sabretooth just straight up hates Logan. Maverick can be thrown in there as well to help Wolverine agaisnt the Russians headed by Omega Red.

[OptimusPrimeRib]

So was the bone spike throwing mutant in X3 supposed to have some Omega Red similarities or was it just me. I know he is closer to Spike and Marrow, but the way the spikes looked when they first emerge from the wrist and the fact that they emerge from the wrist reminded me of OR.

[Taiwarriorz21]

I hope that Omega Red will be in this movie, also Wolverine needs to be the Ultimate Wolverine and go nuts like in the video game. I would like to see some of the other x-men maybe near the end of the movie. When they show up, it should be to save him from gettin his butt kicked by someone like Omega Red or Sabretooth.

[Taiwarriorz21]

I like the storyline that you thought up. That would be quite interesting!

[chaseter]

Bump...God I hope Omega Red makes it into this movie in some form.

[the a1ant]

I like Omega Red...a lot, but with the current cast list, I'd prefer they saved him for a sequel *assuming they make Wolverine 2*

[Congo Jack]

Götz Otto to play Omega Red.

For the storyline, you basically just go straight with the source material from the comics.

The KGB set about transforming Arkady Gregorivich into the super-soldier code-named Omega Red. The procedure was interrupted by Team X, an elite covert operations unit consisting of mutant operatives Logan, Creed, North and Wraith. Team X stole the Carbonadium Synthesizer, a device that was used to control Omega Red’s mutant power, and as a result the KGB placed Omega Red in suspended animation.

If that's a little too complicated, then just abondon the element of the C-Synthesizer and simply have Team X assassinate Omega Red. That would probably be better for the movie.

[X-Maniac]

^^ But not for THIS movie. It would only lead to more shrieking and squeaking about overcrowding, too many characters, yada yada blah blah. I do think Omega Red and the whole Russian thingy is best kept for another movie. We already have a lot of comicbook characters in Wolverine and it seems quite enough.

[bullets]

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[bullets]

gotta have omega red for this movie with team x trying to face him and losing.

[DoctorJones]

^^ But not for THIS movie. It would only lead to more shrieking and squeaking about overcrowding, too many characters, yada yada blah blah. I do think Omega Red and the whole Russian thingy is best kept for another movie. We already have a lot of comicbook characters in Wolverine and it seems quite enough.

I know, but it's a shame they decided to go with Wolverine encountering his old Team X buddies and other mutants who should be in the present-day X-Men movies instead of just depicting Wolvie's time as a black ops.

[X-Maniac]

I know, but it's a shame they decided to go with Wolverine encountering his old Team X buddies and other mutants who should be in the present-day X-Men movies instead of just depicting Wolvie's time as a black ops.

You can't have it all ways. Wolverine's past is long, detailed and complicated. It can't all be stuffed into a single movie. Others might want all the Japanese stuff too. Not gonna happen. I think starting off with the Weapon X past and Wolverine's actual origin is the right way to do it. Then they could move on to other parts of his past if there are further movies. Gambit and Sabretooth are linked, so that might explain Gambit's inclusion in the spin-off. Omega Red absolutely doesn't belong in this first spin-off. And he'd need reimagining so as not to seem like Doctor Octopus.

[Savage]

Wasn't the Omega Red mission pretty important to Wolverine's falling out with Sabretooth anyway?

[X-Maniac]

Wasn't the Omega Red mission pretty important to Wolverine's falling out with Sabretooth anyway?

Dunno. I just find amusing, and irritating, how you have one camp of hypesters demanding more and more characters that THEY want to see in the movie, and others shrieking about way too many characters. I feel there are many dark days ahead until this movie comes out, and for some time afterwards (X3 anyone?). Fasten your seatbelts everyone. :word:

[Savage]

I guess it was a retorical question since I know he's very important to the two characters. But I'm sure they'll use the Silver Fox thing instead.

See I don't have a problem with many characters being used but more how they are used. X1 and X2 did it fine. Perfectly even. People like Shadowcat and Siryn who did not even have lines were used to great extent. It was really more the fault of the writers and Brett Ratner that the mutants weren't used right in X3 so I have no worries with Wolverine.

[X-Maniac]

See I don't have a problem with many characters being used but more how they are used. X1 and X2 did it fine. Perfectly even. People like Shadowcat and Siryn who did not even have lines were used to great extent. It was really more the fault of the writers and Brett Ratner that the mutants weren't used right in X3 so I have no worries with Wolverine.

How do you think they weren't 'used right' in X3?

[Savage]

For me it was more of a personal fanboy thing. I'm sure regular movie patrons didn't even notice or care but it really annoyed me how they switched up the powers of mutants. So it really felt like the characters weren't respected and were just used in a failed attempt to both please the fans and fill out action scenes. They figured "We need a girl with superspeed. We can't just make someone up though." "We can call her Callisto. The fans'll go ape**** for that." It was that kind of thinking that really bugged me.

But I guess I'm biased.

EDIT: thanks x-maniac.

[BobJM]

No, I completely agree Savage.

[Congo Jack]

Wasn't the Omega Red mission pretty important to Wolverine's falling out with Sabretooth anyway?
Well I'll answer your rhetorical question...yep - Creed shot Janice the double-agent, and Logan walked out on Team X after the mission in Berlin. Which resulted in Creed's "You're mine, boy - and the day is gonna come when I collect!"

If the sequel is going to focus on Japan, then Omega Red will have no place in that movie. I want the Berlin mission as the reason why Logan left Team X - not for it to occur during the present.

Sigh...apparently there is no way I can phrase that to make sense - take "the present" as 17 years ago. And the Berlin mission occured maybe three years before that.

I'm expecting a lot of "huh? wha?" on that one...

[X-Maniac]

For me it was more of a personal fanboy thing. I'm sure regular movie patrons didn't even notice or care but it really annoyed me how they switched up the powers of mutants. So it really felt like the characters weren't respected and were just used in a failed attempt to both please the fans and fill out action scenes. They figured "We need a girl with superspeed. We can't just make someone up though." "We can call her Callypso. The fans'll go ape**** for that." It was that kind of thinking that really bugged me.

But I guess I'm biased.

I see. Well, it's actually Callisto, whose name comes from a huntress in Greek mythology. The comicbook version has enhanced reflexes.... so upgrading that to superspeed is not too much of a stretch, as it then makes her a more formidable opponent for Storm and also gives her a definite mutational advantage than just 'reflexes.'

I think the Callisto changes were fine.

What else didn't you like?

Is it that you felt that the story somehow dictated the characters' powers rather than the actual proper powers being smartly showcased by the story?

[Savage]

Whoops. Didn't even notice I did that. Thanks for the correction. :p

I was just using Callisto as an example because she had a bigger role but Psylocke was the one that really bugged me. See I don't have problems with the use of characters as long as they're used right and ARE the characters. Quill was Quill, Spike was Spike, Phat was Phat. This is why I'm not worried about Wolverine because I'm sure they won't pull another Callisto and Psylocke.

Besides that, Cyclops' death, Wolverine being out of character and taking over, and the movie being short and moving too fast I actually enjoy watching X3.:o Hey, I'm allowed to have fanboy nitpicks too, I just don't dwell on them as much as others.

[X-Maniac]

Whoops. Didn't even notice I did that. Thanks for the correction. :p

I was just using Callisto as an example because she had a bigger role but Psylocke was the one that really bugged me. See I don't have problems with the use of characters as long as they're used right and ARE the characters. Quill was Quill, Spike was Spike, Phat was Phat. This is why I'm not worried about Wolverine because I'm sure they won't pull another Callisto and Psylocke.

Besides that, Cyclops' death, Wolverine being out of character and taking over, and the movie being short and moving too fast I actually enjoy watching X3.:o Hey, I'm allowed to have fanboy nitpicks too, I just don't dwell on them as much as others.

I edited my post too, to add a final thought which, if it's what you meant, is more understandable in many ways!

[Savage]

Well I'll answer your rhetorical question...yep - Creed shot Janice the double-agent, and Logan walked out on Team X after the mission in Berlin. Which resulted in Creed's "You're mine, boy - and the day is gonna come when I collect!"

If the sequel is going to focus on Japan, then Omega Red will have no place in that movie. I want the Berlin mission as the reason why Logan left Team X - not for it to occur during the present.

Sigh...apparently there is no way I can phrase that to make sense - take "the present" as 17 years ago. And the Berlin mission occured maybe three years before that.

I'm expecting a lot of "huh? wha?" on that one...

I understand actually and I wish it was that way too. But I think they're gonna go with Sabretooth murdering Silver Fox be the reason for the two of them being enemies (somehow I doubt they'll allow the rape. I doubt they'll even imply it). Which I guess is alright with me since a movie only has so much time.

[The Original Bamfer]

Is Omega Red still rumored to be in this film?

[Savage]

Is it that you felt that the story somehow dictated the characters' powers rather than the actual proper powers being smartly showcased by the story?

Wow, I could not have worded that better. That was exactly my problem with it. That's why the use of some characters felt different from the previous X-movies. Multiple Man and Arclight were used to great effect (they had a purpose) while people like Quill and Psylocke were really kind of random and pointless. People wanted to see Psylocke in the movies so they crammed her in for the hell of it and Quill was there because they thought the special effect would look cool.

[Savage]

Is Omega Red still rumored to be in this film?

I don't think so. It's a shame really considering this is the opportunity to use him since this story heavily involves Weapon X and Team X.

[The Original Bamfer]

I don't think so. It's a shame really considering this is the opportunity to use him since this story heavily involves Weapon X and Team X.

I agree. 'Red would be better suited for this film than some of the other characters that have been announced.

[X-Maniac]

Wow, I could not have worded that better. That was exactly my problem with it. That's why the use of some characters felt different from the previous X-movies. Multiple Man and Arclight were used to great effect (they had a purpose) while people like Quill and Psylocke were really kind of random and pointless. People wanted to see Psylocke in the movies so they crammed her in for the hell of it and Quill was there because they thought the special effect would look cool.

Yes, I see the point. I'm glad you like the way I expressed it - it suddenly made sense to me. And I agree that it's dangerous territory when you 'bend' characters to fit a story.

I never really liked Quill. That was Ratner casting a friend in the movie. Didn't mind Psylocke so much - she looked exactly right and she had a 'power moment' which was either her teleportation or her power to telekinetically bend light to camouflage herself. I've a feeling a much larger role shrunk as production continued, as Mei Melancon spoke in magazines about her character having power scenes including firing her 'psychic knives.'

The problem people had with Multiple Man was that he was freed only for him to then allow himself to be captured again. Did that REALLY matter? Not sure. It did at least show that Magneto was aware that abandoning Mystique (which some criticised) would lead to her grassing him up to the authorities, because he prepared for the fact the military would find his forest base.

[X-Maniac]

I agree. 'Red would be better suited for this film than some of the other characters that have been announced.

I wonder how they could make him look distinct from SM2's Doc Ock. Organic tentacles? Or just keep the classic look and to hell with any Doc Ock comparisons?