what happened to spider-mans new powers?

[kieron39]

i cant remember how long ago he get them now, but i havnt seen any sign of spider mans night vision or stingers being used lately. are they ditching the idea?

[Happenstance]

We can only hope

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Like most bad ideas, they hope that if they ignore 'em long enough people will forget and they can pull a quiet retcon.

OR, th' new powers were so pointless to begin with writers can't find a SINGLE use fer them outside of Spidey's usual moves.

[shinlyle]

Well, considering that the writer of the story that spawned these powers, as well as the Editor-In-Chief at Marvel, thinks that these powers and the story that spawnd them are mistakes, I'd say you will never see them again.

[kieron39]

so pretty much there was no point in 'the other' story line?

[Happenstance]

It seems the only reason for it was to piss us off and make a lot of Spidey fans drop the books

[shinlyle]

so pretty much there was no point in 'the other' story line?

I have yet to see one, man.

I think it was basically JMS's way to make "his mark" on Spidey, and it was just an ill-concieved and poorly-executed idea.

The fact that three of his five new powers were absolutely useless didn't help matters.

Stick things to his back: He could already do that...ever since AF#15.

Feel vibrations in his webline: Um....that shouldn't be too hard to do.

Spider identification: So he now knows every species of spider....he couldn't have simply learned that or anything, right? I'm sure this knowledge will come in really handy against Doc Ock...

Ock: Now, you die!

Spidey: Wait, Ock! There's a grand-daddy Long-legs behind you, let me get him to safety, then you can do with me as you wish!

Ock: Are you effin' retarded?!

[ben_reilly_s_s]

Well maybe they plan on bringin in a Huge other-worldy spider demon god thing and while pete is trying to access his ??memory?? for the new spider species to come up with a few insults, the thing impales pete and eats his head.

[kieron39]

spider man seems to be getting worse then huh? i wonder what its gona be like after he reveals his secret i dentity.....

[shinlyle]

spider man seems to be getting worse then huh? i wonder what its gona be like after he reveals his secret i dentity.....

(you may want to use spoiler tags when posting that....alot of people don't want to find tha tout until next week)
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It'll look alot like a ghost town here, because alot of people won't be reading ANY of the books anymore and therefore won't have anything to talk about.

[Doc Destruction]

Worse.

[OtepApe]

(you may want to use spoiler tags when posting that....alot of people don't want to find tha tout until next week)
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It'll look alot like a ghost town here, because alot of people won't be reading ANY of the books anymore and therefore won't have anything to talk about.

Oh come come now.

There will still be a helluva lot of complaining going on, I can guarentee that.

[kieron39]

oh sorry bout the spoiler thing, but i bet it wont last, they'll some way to fix it a year down the line.

[shinlyle]

Oh come come now.

There will still be a helluva lot of complaining going on, I can guarentee that.

No doubt...

Still, I won't be around as much, if it happens. This is the final nail in Spider-Man's coffin.

[OtepApe]

No doubt...

Still, I won't be around as much, if it happens. This is the final nail in Spider-Man's coffin.

True, I doubt I will be here as much (although I am not here that much anyway, thank you JMS and Quesada).

But anytime there's a thread about a good Spidey story or Spider-man of old....I will be there.

[roach]

Spidey pops his talons next week

[Doc Destruction]

His new power is to suck worse than any heroes writing has ever sucked before in every single title they appear in.

It's Amazing!

[Effect]

i cant remember how long ago he get them now, but i havnt seen any sign of spider mans night vision or stingers being used lately. are they ditching the idea?

I hope not. I really liked the new powers and would like to see the whole mystical aspect of Spider-man expanded upon after Civil War is over. I guess they can't go into it right now with Civil War going on as that would just be doing to much with the characters in addition to everything else that is going on.

Look at X-men. They are just not getting to finish up the Pheonix: Endsong storyline with Pheonix: Warsong and a lot happen inbetween so them taking a break with The Other storyline doesn't seem that out of place. Especially with something big like Civil War.

I wouldn't be surprised once he stops wearing Tony's suit that the new powers come into play leading into the conclusion of The Other arc or something similar.

[shinlyle]

I hope not. I really liked the new powers and would like to see the whole mystical aspect of Spider-man expanded upon after Civil War is over. I guess they can't go into it right now with Civil War going on as that would just be doing to much with the characters in addition to everything else that is going on.

Look at X-men. They are just not getting to finish up the Pheonix: Endsong storyline with Pheonix: Warsong and a lot happen inbetween so them taking a break with The Other storyline doesn't seem that out of place. Especially with something big like Civil War.

I wouldn't be surprised once he stops wearing Tony's suit that the new powers come into play leading into the conclusion of The Other arc or something similar.

Yeah....well, like them or not, they'll be gone here shortly, as JMS and Joe Q admitted the powers and the suit suck harder than Chasey Lane at a job interview, and that they'll be doing a 6 issue mini to put Spider-man back to the way he was.

Apparently, the idea was so bad that even the people behind it hated it.

[Effect]

I just wish they would grow some balls and stick to an idea instead of caving in when some fans cry out they hate something. Clearly they had to have thought the idea had some merit and would be interesting for the character. Or it never would have gotten the green light I think. I really doubt they'd think the idea sucks and would be horrible and hated it and then wrote it anyway. I don't buy that at all and it makes no sense at all.

What it seems like to me is that Q and JMS might be telling the vocal fansbase what they want to hear to possiblly shut them up.

I think if they did anything they really wanted with Spider-man and allowed it be logical that the character would still be extremely popular.

Question, I know a lot of people seem to hate the clone saga or at least some are very vocal about it. Was there a serious sales drop off? When Ben Reily became Spider-man. Were the issues filled with dislike for the idea in the form of letters? Did sales drop because people stop reading or was there just an outcry of dislike among all fans or just some fans and Marvel gave into pleasing the most vocal (perhaps the smallest group) fans that disliked it?

What was the actual real reason for undoing it?

[stillanerd]

I just wish they would grow some balls and stick to an idea instead of caving in when some fans cry out they hate something. Clearly they had to have thought the idea had some merit and would be interesting for the character. Or it never would have gotten the green light I think. I really doubt they'd think the idea sucks and would be horrible and hated it and then wrote it anyway. I don't buy that at all and it makes no sense at all.

What it seems like to me is that Q and JMS might be telling the vocal fansbase what they want to hear to possiblly shut them up.

I think if they did anything they really wanted with Spider-man and allowed it be logical that the character would still be extremely popular.

Well, of course Marvel didn't intentionally said to themselves "hey, this idea sucks." Then again, Joe Q and JMS were so hell-bent on "altering the status quo" that they didn't stop to think about it. After all, Joe Q himself said that "The Other" would likely "piss off some fans" even before it came out. And, looking at the actual story, seeing how it left a lot of unanswered questions, dangling plot threads, shifts in tone, art mistakes (MJ's miraclous healing being one) etc., it was pretty clear that it was hastily put together. And it wasn't the idea of Spider-Man getting new powers that was bad but rather they really didn't add or improve upon what he already had, and, with regards to the stingers, were such rip-off of Wolverine it's amazing nobody at Marvel realized it.

Question, I know a lot of people seem to hate the clone saga or at least some are very vocal about it. Was there a serious sales drop off? When Ben Reily became Spider-man. Were the issues filled with dislike for the idea in the form of letters? Did sales drop because people stop reading or was there just an outcry of dislike among all fans or just some fans and Marvel gave into pleasing the most vocal (perhaps the smallest group) fans that disliked it?

What was the actual real reason for undoing it?

Well, the Clone Saga actually did sell well in the beginning and that was one of the reasons why, thanks to the money managers at Marvel, keep stretching it out hoping to sell more issues. But once it was "revealed" that Peter Parker was a "clone" and Ben Reilly was the "original," the backlash was enormous and sales tanked. Even after Marvel fixed it, the stain of it was still there and the Spider-Man comics took a long time to recover. It some ways they still haven't.

For an insiders look into the whole clone saga, check out this excellent site:

The Life of Reilly (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/%5Burl=http://www.newcomicreviews.com/GHM/specials/LifeOfReilly/1.html%5DLife%20of%20Reilly%5B/url%5D)

[WOLVERINE25TH]

If an idea is bad then balls comes into play to admit it, NOT to keep it around. Face it, The Other was a bomb no matter how you wanna slice it.

[spideylover89]

^No better way to put it.

[storyteller]

I liked the new powers till i had to remember why he got them. Honestly i was the pro guy for the new temp suit and story changes. But now...........

[Spiderluke]

I liked the new powers till i had to remember why he got them. Honestly i was the pro guy for the new temp suit and story changes. But now...........

Now you might as well throw him back in his red and blue and forget about the powers because it wouldn't make a difference.

[Spiderluke]

I liked the new powers till i had to remember why he got them. Honestly i was the pro guy for the new temp suit and story changes. But now...........

Now you might as well throw him back in his red and blue and forget about the powers because it wouldn't make a difference.

[Kevin]

i've read some of the clone saga... compared to how i feel about spidey today they can make a new clone saga and i'd be on board. i'm really starting to hate marvel. they need to boot Joe Q like they did Tommy D

[AmaznSpider-Fan]

Thanks for the spoiler tags, douche. :mad:

[Spiderluke]

i've read some of the clone saga... compared to how i feel about spidey today they can make a new clone saga and i'd be on board. i'm really starting to hate marvel. they need to boot Joe Q like they did Tommy D

I've been saying boot Joe Q for years. He's a terrible editor. I've said it before and I'll say it again. "All the fans know we hate what's happened to Spider-man in the last few years and do they do anything about it? No. They make him even worse." I miss the Lee/Romita days where you didn't have to worry about unexplained new powers.

[MyPokerShirt]

Have they actually admitted theyre gettin rid of the new powers?? the stingers are popped in friendly... 6? yeah think so. the night vision would come in handy, but its the speed and greater spider-sense that NNEDS to be kept. otherwise theyd be gettin rid of some worthwhile powers and thats just silly. the organic webbing could stay as well, cos we could see pete after 48hours up fighting bad guys losing that ability mid-swing (til he gets some sleep etc), movie stylie -- ie. more problems for old webhead

[Miss Webb]

They aren't the focus of the storyline so far. And contrary to popular belief, editorial staffs don't keep changing ideas because a few people scream on message boards. I love this whole idea "if we close our eyes it will go away" crap. I see it on every board when people disagree with changes. Hey, if they don't SAY they're gonna change it, don't assume they're gonna change it. People are doing a good job twisting what was said about getting Spidey back to his roots. That has NOTHING to do with undoing anything. Just something to keep in mind.

And why are people so damn SCARED of every concept they don't agree with or like? I don't like everything either, but I sure don't stick my head up my ass and say "it'll just go away because I think so."

[shinlyle]

They aren't the focus of the storyline so far. And contrary to popular belief, editorial staffs don't keep changing ideas because a few people scream on message boards. I love this whole idea "if we close our eyes it will go away" crap. I see it on every board when people disagree with changes. Hey, if they don't SAY they're gonna change it, don't assume they're gonna change it. People are doing a good job twisting what was said about getting Spidey back to his roots. That has NOTHING to do with undoing anything. Just something to keep in mind.

And why are people so damn SCARED of every concept they don't agree with or like? I don't like everything either, but I sure don't stick my head up my ass and say "it'll just go away because I think so."

You know, maybe we should just keep buying the book, no matter how much we dislike it! That way, marvel will see that they can never gt rid of the TRIE fans, and then, they will make the storylines better as a way to reward fans for their loyalty!!

Or, we could vote with our wallets, buy stuff we like, and ignore stuff we don't like. Whether it changes anything or not, I don't give a damn. They aren't going to get my money just because they happen to own the rights to my favorite character(s). That's stupid.

So, I will go away until the storyline changes to somethign that interests me. So far, nothing is clicking with me, so I've dropped the Spidey titles. I'll check back, and when it gets good again, I'll come back.

[Citizen_Kaine]

Ock: Now, you die!

Spidey: Wait, Ock! There's a grand-daddy Long-legs behind you, let me get him to safety, then you can do with me as you wish!

Ock: Are you effin' retarded?!

Thanks Shin', now I gotta clean the cherrios and milk off my monitor :(:D

[shinlyle]

Thanks Shin', now I gotta clean the cherrios and milk off my monitor :(:D

There are always some casualties...

Alas, the Cheerios will be avenged!!!!

*stabs self in leg*

GAH!!!! T-there now.....re-rest in p-p-peace....C-Cheerios....

*faints from blood loss*

[Doc Destruction]

They aren't the focus of the storyline so far. And contrary to popular belief, editorial staffs don't keep changing ideas because a few people scream on message boards. I love this whole idea "if we close our eyes it will go away" crap. I see it on every board when people disagree with changes. Hey, if they don't SAY they're gonna change it, don't assume they're gonna change it. People are doing a good job twisting what was said about getting Spidey back to his roots. That has NOTHING to do with undoing anything. Just something to keep in mind.

And why are people so damn SCARED of every concept they don't agree with or like? I don't like everything either, but I sure don't stick my head up my ass and say "it'll just go away because I think so."

Hey Quesada, how's things?

[TDK]

Oops! Mis-read that post about the stingers being "popped" in FNSM #6.

Sorry! :o

[storyteller]

I see no reasons to keep the stingers. The stingers are weapons that are ment to seriously harm a fellow. Spider-man doesnt kill so he shouldnt have them.

All the other powers were things that they can keep but no writer would really waste a page to have pete say "ah yes my night vision and wind on my hairs are moving......"

Oh but remember the power he got with his organics. The talk to insects thing. WTF happened to that? It was gone like the next issue.

[RAMORE]

It's like the other never happened.

[RAMORE]

Hey Quesada, how's things?


Soooo funny:D you could swear that was him or someone working for him.

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

They aren't the focus of the storyline so far. And contrary to popular belief, editorial staffs don't keep changing ideas because a few people scream on message boards. I love this whole idea "if we close our eyes it will go away" crap. I see it on every board when people disagree with changes. Hey, if they don't SAY they're gonna change it, don't assume they're gonna change it. People are doing a good job twisting what was said about getting Spidey back to his roots. That has NOTHING to do with undoing anything. Just something to keep in mind.

And why are people so damn SCARED of every concept they don't agree with or like? I don't like everything either, but I sure don't stick my head up my ass and say "it'll just go away because I think so."

Then, why give him the new powers in the first place... If he's not gonna use them... If it was that way Sins Past, and Teh Pooper wouldn't have happened... OK I'm closing my eyes are you gone? Or they're twisting themself enough to be ambivalent ...

Why are you so DAMN SCARED of people who hate the crap that Marvel's trying to feed us? So far you've been with a ride everything out 'tude... that sounds weird almost perverted... Now I'm curious... What you haven't liked so far? So far the only ones with their heads up their asses are Joseph Michael Straczynski and Joe Quesada... and that's their mantra towards spider-fans...

Final thoughts: Don't throw rocks if you have a glass roof... Know your Spidey history if you want to write Spider-man. Don't create powers that you're not going to use...
Take Care of yourselves and each other

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

[Miss Webb]

As far as giving him new (or not so new) powers, I'm guessing the editorial staff is setting up different storylines for the future (for instance, where is this 'other' female running around, what will she be doing?) Sure, I had a typical kneejerk reaction to the 'unmasking' too. But then I started thinking, what the hell? They've written themselves into a corner, now lets see them write their way out. I can even see an all out brawl in the superhero community, some being called traitors and even guilt playing a factor. Who will betray who? And when you break it down, what's the LONG TERM deal going on here?

I was kind of hoping they'd make his powers a bit more practical also, but this doesn't mean I don't like the CONCEPT of the other and what was attempted. Short of everyone writing their own comic, everyone ain't gonna be happy. So live with the "WTF?" moments until this stuff starts to make sense.

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

hopefully the same place where baby may is running... or crawling... I'd rather sacrifice baby may, than have t3h 0t3hr return...

[Donald Thomas]

It's like the other never happened.

ALoha,
I'm getting that same picture. I was looking forward to an exploration of SPidey's powers old and new. Instaed, it's almost become a What If? situation.
Spidey rules

[CaptainStacy]

ALoha,
I'm getting that same picture. I was looking forward to an exploration of SPidey's powers old and new. Instaed, it's almost become a What If? situation.
Spidey rules

Agreed. Have you noticed how Civil War as a whole, is flowing together quite smoothly, in regards to the main story and all the tie-ins?

It almost makes me think that The Other got started, then Millar or whoever came up with the Civil War concept, then everyone began thinking about THAT and sort of just tossed The Other together with very minimal effort, then forgot about it.

And you know what? That's ok with ME because i'd just as soon forget The Other happend if Marvel will.

[Webz14]

Along these lines...whatever happened to that cocoon thing that was underneath the church in MK Spider-Man? That was like in part 11 of 'the other' and I have yet to see what becomes of that... whats up with that?

[ragingdemon155]

Along these lines...whatever happened to that cocoon thing that was underneath the church in MK Spider-Man? That was like in part 11 of 'the other' and I have yet to see what becomes of that... whats up with that?

Nothing has happened with it. It hasn't been mentioned again since it happened. The entire concept of "The Other" was just a big waste of time. I'm pretty sure Marvel could have thought of some other way to get Spidey into that disgusting Iron Spidey costume.

[Webz14]

Nothing has happened with it. It hasn't been mentioned again since it happened. The entire concept of "The Other" was just a big waste of time. I'm pretty sure Marvel could have thought of some other way to get Spidey into that disgusting Iron Spidey costume.

Man, the Other really was a flop.