View Full Version : Miss Indestructible: Hayden Panettiere as Claire Bennet Character Discussion
She seems to be one of the very few teen female tv/movie stars I've seen with actual talent......who could act. She destroys Lindsay Lohan, Duff and all their clones.
I think her attached to this is a really good sign. She was great in the tv movie "Tiger Cruise" based off the events of 9/11. Her on this show gives me some hope that it will be cool, despite a very bold, risky 4400/mutant-X premise.
http://www.haydenpanettiere.com/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659363/
Kaboom
06-05-2006, 06:38 PM
how old is this girl?
phoenixflight
06-08-2006, 11:15 AM
Discuss ALL things about Hayden's character!
phoenixflight
06-08-2006, 08:56 PM
a 17-year-old cheerleader who defies death at every turn.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3316/unbreakable1na.jpg
Kaboom
06-08-2006, 10:09 PM
theres already been a thread created for this chracter.
MarvelMovies
06-09-2006, 02:28 AM
I don't think there was a single shot in that trailer where she wasn't wearing that cheerleader uniform.
Maybe she can jump off the bridge thing one more time.. and her powers will give away.
Not really a fan of her character, though atleast she used her powers for good when she saved that person from the fire.
Mistopurr83
06-09-2006, 04:18 PM
So is she just invulnerable and not super strength?
AlteredEgo
06-10-2006, 03:28 AM
i suppose. anyways, ive always wondered what would happen to somebody like that if they were impaled or something, or if they could live forever but be stuck in a coma or something like that. :confused:
hulkamania85
06-10-2006, 12:47 PM
I don't think there was a single shot in that trailer where she wasn't wearing that cheerleader uniform.
And that is a bad thing because....?
The Kid
06-10-2006, 02:15 PM
i wonder if that outfit is fireproof
:)
AlteredEgo
06-11-2006, 04:25 AM
heh, they should have made the invincible one an emo kid. would have been the most frustrating suicide attempts ever :up:
and on another note, is the mascot for her school a trojan? typical. just try not making a joke outta that one. :o
imdaly
06-12-2006, 02:44 PM
i suppose. anyways, ive always wondered what would happen to somebody like that if they were impaled or something, or if they could live forever but be stuck in a coma or something like that. :confused:
You should check out the Series Finale of "Alias" :up:
AlteredEgo
06-13-2006, 02:22 AM
what happens?
imdaly
06-13-2006, 02:26 AM
what happens?
Sloane, the main baddie of the show, finally gets what he wants: immortality. But Jack Bristow arrives in the cave he's in just in time to blow him and the cave up. Sloane, being immortal, of course doesn't get hurt, but instead becomes forever trapped beneath the earth, left alone by himself for eternity. :up:
AlteredEgo
06-13-2006, 04:57 AM
beautiful :D:up:
AnimeJune
06-13-2006, 02:43 PM
heh, they should have made the invincible one an emo kid. would have been the most frustrating suicide attempts ever :up:
and on another note, is the mascot for her school a trojan? typical. just try not making a joke outta that one. :o Groundhog Day all over again. :D
But her cheerleading outfit IS flammable - they show the firefighters ripping it off to get to the burns they believe are beneath....or her booty....whichever...I'm sure firefighters aren't picky...
Shes a teenager. Born in 1989. All I am saying is she can *act* which is very rare for most teeny boppers her age.
She was actually the little girl in Ally Mcbeal back in the 90s and the little girl in Remember the Titans.
AlteredEgo
06-15-2006, 03:54 AM
wow, she's almost the same age as me. hmm and she did some voicework in kingdom hearts one and two?
Spider-Man™
06-16-2006, 10:56 PM
She's hot, and a good actress.
AnimeJune
06-18-2006, 04:23 PM
Shes a teenager. Born in 1989. All I am saying is she can *act* which is very rare for most teeny boppers her age.
She was actually the little girl in Ally Mcbeal back in the 90s and the little girl in Remember the Titans.There is already at least one thread already about her. Please read the other threads before posting another repeat.
Pinoy98
06-19-2006, 04:13 PM
I sure hope she has super strength too
that would be plus
AnimeJune
06-19-2006, 05:26 PM
I sure hope she has super strength too
that would be plusI doubt it - and I don't think it would be necessary. The point of the show seems to be about giving people one unique power. Hers would be invulnerability. It would unnecessary to give her anything else.
It's a drama about dealing with superpowers - it's not about making a Supergirl Clone.
JTIZZLEVILLE
06-19-2006, 11:04 PM
I've always wondered how that she is indestructable when she jumped off the bridge thing, yet she got a huge gash on her cheek.
hum....
AnimeJune
06-20-2006, 10:36 AM
I've always wondered how that she is indestructable when she jumped off the bridge thing, yet she got a huge gash on her cheek.
hum....Well, maybe it's a more subtle thing, like the guy from "Unbreakable" - where she could get minor injuries, but never anything life-threatening. It won't go noticed with minor accidents, but will be noticed with major disasters like fires and the jumping off of buildings and whatnot.
Kaboom
06-20-2006, 04:05 PM
There is already at least one thread already about her. Please read the other threads before posting another repeat.
yea, if you go the already open thread and read teh second post.
Kane, they let you back on? what happened?
Pinoy98
06-20-2006, 05:58 PM
Shes a teenager. Born in 1989. All I am saying is she can *act* which is very rare for most teeny boppers her age.
She was actually the little girl in Ally Mcbeal back in the 90s and the little girl in Remember the Titans.
wait you mean the coaches little girl in remeber the titans? haha thats pretty cool.
But out of all the teen girl actors now a days I'd say Lindsay Lohan is pretty good. Hayden's acting is pretty decent too, but I'd like to see more of what she's been in to find out.
Kaboom
06-20-2006, 06:04 PM
What do you mean?
check pm
Speedball
06-24-2006, 12:22 AM
wow, she's almost the same age as me. hmm and she did some voicework in kingdom hearts one and two?
Did some voice work!
She was frickin Kairi, the female lead.
I hope this show is very successful, and makes her more successful than the present whores who rule hollywood.
AnimeJune
06-24-2006, 01:34 PM
Did some voice work!
She was frickin Kairi, the female lead.
I hope this show is very successful, and makes her more successful than the present whores who rule hollywood.I did not know that. That's nice.
I love listening to those games and figuring out all the famous people who showed up to do voice work! Yay Billy Zane! Yay David Boreanaz!
RAMORE
06-27-2006, 09:31 AM
i think she can be hurt but comes back to life. in one preview when she jumped off a tower she like breaks her neck then gets up and like craks it and is all good. I like this actress also.
AnimeJune
06-27-2006, 05:42 PM
i think she can be hurt but comes back to life. in one preview when she jumped off a tower she like breaks her neck then gets up and like craks it and is all good. I like this actress also.She didn't break her neck, she dislocated her shoulder.
So no broken bones or death.
She did a very good job. I like her character a lot. She has certain charisma onscreen. I hope to see more of her.
Frank
07-28-2006, 04:04 AM
sounds like she can get hurt. On aintitcool a report talked about her pushing ribs back in and mangling her hand in a garbage disposal.
HR-PUFF&STUFF
07-28-2006, 04:25 AM
so she is like the immortals in highlander, you can do anything to them and they just get back up and dust themselfs off.
AnimeJune
07-28-2006, 11:04 AM
sounds like she can get hurt. On aintitcool a report talked about her pushing ribs back in and mangling her hand in a garbage disposal.Eeeewww....
Frank
08-02-2006, 10:37 PM
I saw the pilot. I really don't get why she was so stressed out about her powers... She's basically got a healing factor. What's wrong with that? She was complaining about SATS and a bunch of other things her powers would have no effect on..negative or positive. She seemed interested in her future yet she kept trying to kill herself. I'd loveto have her power.
comicfreak
08-08-2006, 07:28 PM
http://superherohype.com/news/heroesnews.php?id=4614
I just read this interview with her she seems tight.. I like her shes not as girly as she seems she is into the guts and glory stuff my kinda gal
kevinpenni
08-08-2006, 07:33 PM
Saw her on Punk'd... she's annoying.
dpm07
08-09-2006, 10:48 AM
So like what happens if someone like this gets a limb cut off? Does it regrow, or is regeneration a separate power?
chesslover
08-31-2006, 01:46 PM
Sloane, the main baddie of the show, finally gets what he wants: immortality. But Jack Bristow arrives in the cave he's in just in time to blow him and the cave up. Sloane, being immortal, of course doesn't get hurt, but instead becomes forever trapped beneath the earth, left alone by himself for eternity. :up:
That's hot :)
The Question
08-31-2006, 07:36 PM
I've always wondered how that she is indestructable when she jumped off the bridge thing, yet she got a huge gash on her cheek.
hum....
Way I see it, her invulnerability is like that of Deadpool or Lobo. Comes from a healing factor. So it's not impossible to injur her. But her cells regenerate so fast that it's as if nothing had happened at all.
The Lizard
09-27-2006, 11:27 PM
So, does she feel pain?
She didn't seem to be too concerned when her hand got mangled in the disposal, so I don't think she can.
If she's not really "indestructible", and just heals super-fast, then what's to stop her from getting blown up or decapitated?
I'm rewatching the episode... I noticed that she started acting a LOT like someone about to commit suicide... being all nice to her mom all of a sudden... "everything's cool" and all that. That's some scary stuff.
The Question
09-28-2006, 07:44 AM
I think Claire could end up a villain, or at least severely disturbed. Might be that she receives several mortal injuries over the space of the show, but because of her powers, can't die. This, obviously, would end up being quite unnerving, and the regular near death experiences might drive her insane. Maybe not truely evil, but detatched from reality and emotionally unstable, like Deadpool.
I don't know... she didn't seem that unnerved after falling off the bridge, or running into the fire. She seems to be dealing with it pretty well... what she IS doing is re-evaluating her priorities and turning from a spoiled teenage brat into something else...
The Question
09-28-2006, 06:08 PM
I was thinking more in the long run. Having several near death experiences yet never dying might make someone crack.
GhostPoet
10-02-2006, 02:54 PM
I don't know... she didn't seem that unnerved after falling off the bridge, or running into the fire. She seems to be dealing with it pretty well... what she IS doing is re-evaluating her priorities and turning from a spoiled teenage brat into something else...
I don't think she's handling it well.
She is hurting herself because she doesn't like herself...because she's different. It's like when someone cuts themselves...only on a whole new level.
Abaddon
10-03-2006, 01:01 PM
What would happen if her head was severed?
The Lizard
10-03-2006, 01:58 PM
^We might find that out if there's any more time-traveling to the future when the villain Syler (sp?) has chopped off the tops of the heroes heads.
Mistopurr83
10-08-2006, 10:59 PM
We've seen Claire is a quick healer that doesn't seem to feel physical pain. I've noticed the previews say their powers are gonna grow. Is it possible Claire is able to lift anything real heavy as well? Like a car?:huh:
The Question
10-08-2006, 11:09 PM
Doubtful. But her healing factor may grow to the point where she's completely immortal, like Deadpool or Lobo.
Eddie Brock
10-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Doubtful. But her healing factor may grow to the point where she's completely immortal, like Deadpool or Lobo.
The Immortal Cheerleader
sounds like a Japanese movie
Kaboom
10-09-2006, 04:59 PM
or B slasher flick
AnimeJune
10-09-2006, 05:52 PM
I'm liking the show, but am I the only one who thought that scene where she broke her neck was a little much? I mean, she gets a little push from a football player and her neck gets twisted all the way around? Like, yeah right.
Eddie Brock
10-09-2006, 06:09 PM
I'm liking the show, but am I the only one who thought that scene where she broke her neck was a little much? I mean, she gets a little push from a football player and her neck gets twisted all the way around? Like, yeah right.
that WAS a little much
but it's still cool to show off her ability
Tanin
10-10-2006, 01:19 PM
She survived death......is that powerful enough for ya?
Dr Lee
10-10-2006, 01:31 PM
Why is it that the only time she's topless ever it's when she's got her front carved off:huh:
Joking :woot:
I'd say that this little incident shows exactly how powerful she is.
If she is able to heal herself then couldn't she eventually be able to what Wolverine does and keep herself looking a certain age?
AnimeJune
10-10-2006, 02:02 PM
Why is it that the only time she's topless ever it's when she's got her front carved off:huh:
Joking :woot:
I'd say that this little incident shows exactly how powerful she is.
If she is able to heal herself then couldn't she eventually be able to what Wolverine does and keep herself looking a certain age?Oh, yeah...
I'm thinking her dad might rescue her. Her dad IS the Glasses Man, but I have a suspicion that his emotions might get in the way with his dealings with his daughter.
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 03:46 PM
ok, isn't his name Mr. Bennet? he IS Claire's dad (even if it isn't by blood) so they share the same surname
i'm sick of calling him Glasses
Kaboom
10-10-2006, 04:20 PM
Glasses is his first name.
sc12een17am3
10-10-2006, 04:22 PM
i was just thinking about what happened to Claire and i just thought of something. they just shown her weakness of her powers.
if i saw it correctly, when she was in that laboratory place she stayed "dead" only until whoever took out that piece of wood out of her head. her eyes stayed white until it was taken out.
it seems to me that her regeneration powers cant exactly work when there's something interfering with her brain. so she could officially die if all her body cells died b4 whatever that gets stuck in her brain is taken out. i would think without any living cells, there wouldn't be any cells to regenerate
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 05:32 PM
or her body put itself into comatose until the threat was gone
she wasn't necessarily dying
Mistopurr83
10-10-2006, 06:59 PM
Why is it that the only time she's topless ever it's when she's got her front carved off:huh:
Joking :woot:
I'd say that this little incident shows exactly how powerful she is.
If she is able to heal herself then couldn't she eventually be able to what Wolverine does and keep herself looking a certain age?
We may not know that for a while. However it does look like she's Wolverine without an adamantium skeleton. Wolverine is what Claire is without his adamantium. Which would make him weaker and more human. Now I think I'll leave that speculation about super strength aside.
The Question
10-10-2006, 07:18 PM
She seems more like Deadpool than Wolverine. Vastly more impressive healing factor. And it looks like she might have a mental breakdown aswell, from the teaser.
Eddie Brock
10-10-2006, 07:19 PM
She seems more like Deadpool than Wolverine. Vastly more impressive healing factor. And it looks like she might have a mental breakdown aswell, from the teaser.
yes, Deadpool is a better comparison
She seems more like Deadpool than Wolverine. Vastly more impressive healing factor. And it looks like she might have a mental breakdown aswell, from the teaser.
Probably will have a breakdown now consider she's 'dead' how the heck she's going to explain that? Can't go back to her simple life now, too many people know she's dead
StorminNorman
10-10-2006, 09:54 PM
She seems more like Deadpool than Wolverine. Vastly more impressive healing factor. And it looks like she might have a mental breakdown aswell, from the teaser.
She has been really struggling with her knew powers since episode one - so her having a complete mental breakdown would make sense. Maybe she runs away to New York (perhaps where her real parents live) and finds the Druggie?
hippie_hunter
10-11-2006, 01:14 AM
Way I see it, her invulnerability is like that of Deadpool or Lobo. Comes from a healing factor. So it's not impossible to injur her. But her cells regenerate so fast that it's as if nothing had happened at all.
Deadpool, Lobo, and Claire aren't invulnerable. They have powerful regerative abilities.
If Claire was invulnerable, Claire wouldn't have gotten "killed" or be cut up or have her hand all bloody when she put it in the garbage disposal.
The Question
10-11-2006, 07:22 AM
Deadpool, Lobo, and Claire aren't invulnerable. They have powerful regerative abilities.
I know. That's what I said. :huh:
Eddie Brock
10-11-2006, 02:55 PM
Probably will have a breakdown now consider she's 'dead' how the heck she's going to explain that? Can't go back to her simple life now, too many people know she's dead
no one necessarily knows she's dead
except the jock
no one necessarily knows she's dead
except the jock
The police that found the body and the coroner I would imagine and since she was wearing the cheerleader uniform with the school name I imagine police would do a check of who it is
Dr Lee
10-11-2006, 06:47 PM
The problem is do we know for certain that it was the police that got to her first? With shows like these unless something is specifically aid then anything's possible
AnimeJune
10-11-2006, 07:56 PM
Glasses is his first name.*lol*
FINE - I would like MR BENNET to be a little more lenient or compassionate towards his daughter the hero, rather than the other heroes. It should make for some good drama.
fangrl06
10-13-2006, 01:50 PM
We've seen Claire is a quick healer that doesn't seem to feel physical pain. I've noticed the previews say their powers are gonna grow. Is it possible Claire is able to lift anything real heavy as well? Like a car?:huh:
Hmmm.....maybe she won't feel the pain of lifting a car, and so she will be able to, all the while straining every muscle in her body. Since she has the healing power, she heals right away. So, in a way I guess she'll have super human strength. I also wonder if anything is going to happen between her and her nerd-friend. He's kind of cute.
Tanin
10-13-2006, 02:16 PM
I was taught the human body has involuntary control to keep one from lifting too much.
This is supposedly why one can not lift a car unless undress stress, like saving a kid.
Maybe she can get over this and really push her body to it's full limit.
Fanticon
10-14-2006, 03:11 PM
ok so in last episode...we see she has a weakness...obviously damage that severs or comes grusomely close to decapitation is dangerous for her.
but i have to say....the makers of the show are starting to make her look way to accident prone...I mean...what are the chances she gets pushed, falls, and impails her neck!:huh: ?...c'mon...it makes her look clumsy...its a cheap way to display her powers imo. I know they'll get it right later on down the line...but again...ring down the drain? hit by football player (and it breaks her neck?!), then getting pushed falling and accidentally stabbing yourself in your fall in the neck? :whatever:
Is she just as easily damageable as she is regenerative?
AnimeJune
10-15-2006, 04:25 PM
I could believe the neck-impaling scene, because that guy was pushing her around, but I agree the neck-breaking scene was WAY overdone - it's like they're looking expressly for things to hurt her just so that they can show her powers.
They need to show off her powers, even though realistically people don't get hurt that badly THAT often.
fangrl06
10-15-2006, 04:59 PM
Well think about it. Ordinary people don't put themselves in situations where they can get hurt. She doesn't really care because she will heal.
AnimeJune
10-15-2006, 05:18 PM
Well think about it. Ordinary people don't put themselves in situations where they can get hurt. She doesn't really care because she will heal.True...
Kinda reminds me of that last episode of Grey's Anatomy - the one where the little girl who has an undiagnosed nerve disorder thinks she's a superhero because she can't feel pain.
She ends up having super internal bleeding because she's always asking people to punch her in the stomach to prove her powers. She comes into the hospital covered with bruises she can't feel, with an arm laceration she stapled (!) shut herself, and a complete Superman complex.
Her foster parents were in hysterics because they really had to convince the doctors that she was naturally getting hurt this badly all the time, and that they weren't abusing her.
fangrl06
10-15-2006, 05:23 PM
True...
Kinda reminds me of that last episode of Grey's Anatomy - the one where the little girl who has an undiagnosed nerve disorder thinks she's a superhero because she can't feel pain.
She ends up having super internal bleeding because she's always asking people to punch her in the stomach to prove her powers. She comes into the hospital covered with bruises she can't feel, with an arm laceration she stapled (!) shut herself, and a complete Superman complex.
Her foster parents were in hysterics because they really had to convince the doctors that she was naturally getting hurt this badly all the time, and that they weren't abusing her.
Wow...I don't watch Grey's Anatomy, but that is a great way to put it into perspective. Here's what I want to know: Who are Claire's parents? Is she related to that girl who was looking at her funny at the party(and looked a lot like her)? Are one of her realitves one of the other heroes? Did her parents give her up, or was she taken by her evil adoptive father?
Gamma Ray
10-16-2006, 08:07 PM
First off all, that was sick and awesome. But how the hell is she going to get her chest back?? :wow:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iMBUyv8eobI
deathshead2
10-16-2006, 08:08 PM
She heals from any wound?
Gamma Ray
10-16-2006, 08:10 PM
So her boobs and skin will just grow back?
SouLeSS
10-16-2006, 09:17 PM
Her hand did when she threw it down a garbage disposal, so probably.
Spyda-Man
10-17-2006, 02:22 AM
they didnt cut her chest OFF.. they jsut cut her open.. like a book
X-Ray
10-17-2006, 02:32 AM
^^^yep. Luckily for Claire she woked up before the lady started taking out organs. Now that would've been something :wow:
symbioticspaz
10-17-2006, 04:24 AM
With 13 different CSI's, and countless other shows where an autopsy is performed, how would one not know how they are done? Upon reading that, my mind has officially been blown.
AnimeJune
10-17-2006, 10:26 AM
Okay, am I the only one who's lost faith in her character since yesterday's episode? She committed murder, and all the discussion about the episode what about how people were so glad she did it. WTF?
She murdered a 16-year-old boy! It was a COLD-BLOODED, PRE-MEDITATED act! That's not a heroic action by any means! It makes her an interesting and a conflicted character, but not a hero. There was no excuse for what she did.
X-Ray
10-17-2006, 11:21 AM
The guy had it coming. Just think of Claire as the Punisher. :cwink:
Hiruu
10-17-2006, 12:30 PM
Okay, am I the only one who's lost faith in her character since yesterday's episode? She committed murder, and all the discussion about the episode what about how people were so glad she did it. WTF?
She murdered a 16-year-old boy! It was a COLD-BLOODED, PRE-MEDITATED act! That's not a heroic action by any means! It makes her an interesting and a conflicted character, but not a hero. There was no excuse for what she did.
I wouldn' say it was premature...she started getting pissed off when he made light of his crimes, and she reacted...as a young teen girl going thru a stressful time. It's not a matter of justifying anyting, it simply a matter of putting something in a believable framework. I'm not looking for a "TV SHOW" that perfectly matches my sense of morality...kinda like the rednecks who hate Nikki.
ragdus
10-17-2006, 12:40 PM
Who said the guy is even dead yet?
AnimeJune
10-17-2006, 12:52 PM
I wouldn' say it was premature...she started getting pissed off when he made light of his crimes, and she reacted...as a young teen girl going thru a stressful time. It's not a matter of justifying anyting, it simply a matter of putting something in a believable framework. I'm not looking for a "TV SHOW" that perfectly matches my sense of morality...kinda like the rednecks who hate Nikki.If you read my post clearly, you would see that I'm not criticising the show at all - we all need villains and antiheroes to add interest - I'm criticising the people saying "Yeah! Go Claire! Claire's a hero!" When she clearly isn't. She may redeem herself later on, but what she did with the rapist was evil.
The Question
10-17-2006, 06:00 PM
I wouldn't say it was evil. Evil is a very extreme term. And one I'm personally not comfortable using in most situations. Yes, what she did was bad. But, there was one positive side effect: The kid was basically a serial rapist, and would have hurt more people down the line. I'm not defending what she did, simply pointing out how it could be justified by someone else.
If you read my post clearly, you would see that I'm not criticising the show at all - we all need villains and antiheroes to add interest - I'm criticising the people saying "Yeah! Go Claire! Claire's a hero!" When she clearly isn't. She may redeem herself later on, but what she did with the rapist was evil.
Killing a rapist isn't evil, it's like putting a rabid dog down
fangrl06
10-17-2006, 06:32 PM
So, I think we've established that Claire is a darker hero. This isn't justice league.....not every character is going to be clean-cut lovers of justice.
symbioticspaz
10-18-2006, 01:57 AM
^ Amen! You gotta think though, what would you do? If you knew you couldn't die, some guy tried something like that, and then you find out he's done it before. Its human nature to want revenge. Thats why I like her character. She's a real person. Its not common to see a teenage girl on TV act like a teenage girl.
Poeman
10-18-2006, 02:31 AM
i realized this is the girl from remember the titans .. def coordinator's daughter
spider-neil
10-18-2006, 04:07 AM
Killing a rapist isn't evil, it's like putting a rabid dog down
that's for the courts to decide. if society starts deciding who lives and who dies that is one small step to anarchy and chaos.
morg I've been reading your posts, and I wont pretend to understand how you feel or what you've gone through but to just out and out kill people who break the law with no trail makes you no better than the criminals you punish.
there is a difference between justice and vengence
ragdus
10-18-2006, 07:57 AM
And if she goes to the cops, don't you think it might come out that she had a log go through her skull? Maybe her little trip to the coroner?
That's a lot of explaining to do...
I don't even think the guy is dead, maybe really seriously injured yet, Claires dad is gonna have to do alot of covering up, and she will have to finally reveal whats going on with her (even though he already knows.) Quite a big twist indeed!
ragdus
10-18-2006, 09:20 AM
It's actually getting a little annoying that every week she's getting killed and/or mangled. We get it, she doesn't die (easily).
Donnie Darko
10-18-2006, 09:28 AM
people arguing that what she did was wrong/evil need to remember that this guy has raped other girls, will continue to do so, tried to rape her, in the process killed her, and then stripped her body and disposed of it in a river so no one would find it. The guy is a serial rapist and a murderer (although that was not entirely intentional, it was still his fault). Maybe, just maybe, had he shown some remorse for his rape, murder, and cover up, what she did would be a little bit wrong, but he didn't. Just think how you would react if someone tried to rape you, murdered you, threw your naked body in a river, then called you a slut instead of apologizing. ****, I wanted to kill the guy and I've only seen him on tv for like 15 minutes
ragdus
10-18-2006, 09:48 AM
Don't be silly. She should have donned a mask, dragged him into a police station, stood tall with feet shoulder width apart and fists on her hips, and declared that no one person will ever undermine truth, justice, and the American way as long as she can do something about it!
that's for the courts to decide. if society starts deciding who lives and who dies that is one small step to anarchy and chaos.
morg I've been reading your posts, and I wont pretend to understand how you feel or what you've gone through but to just out and out kill people who break the law with no trail makes you no better than the criminals you punish.
there is a difference between justice and vengence
It's justice killing those punks(rapist) I wouldn't cry any tears killing one, hell I would be happy killing them all. I hate rapist, I have too many friends and family hurt by them, one was 6 years old girl. She still has problems with it even now at 30 years old. If I could go back in time I would kill the prick and damn will make it painful for him too.
BTW courts sucks, 3 of my cousins were raped and the courts pretty much raped them, damn lawyers gave them hell with the questions and the dude barely got 6 years for it even though two of them were minors. To hell with rapist
Abaddon
10-18-2006, 04:54 PM
It's not like rapists are evil. They're just sick, sick, people who need to be eliminated from the gene pool.:huh:
fangrl06
10-18-2006, 06:05 PM
^ Amen! You gotta think though, what would you do? If you knew you couldn't die, some guy tried something like that, and then you find out he's done it before. Its human nature to want revenge. Thats why I like her character. She's a real person. Its not common to see a teenage girl on TV act like a teenage girl.
Exactly. With the way Smallville portrays Lana, I think Claire is a breath of fresh air.
Sean Adisano
10-18-2006, 07:32 PM
Claire is a revengeful girl...me likes it :D did you see her in the last episode, that quarterback got what he deserved.
i like that she's more of a darker type hero thingy.
AnimeJune
10-18-2006, 08:41 PM
For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.
Bombing Hiroshima was a necessary evil, but it was still evil - do you understand my point?
Morg thinks killing rapists would be great. For sure, in many cases it might be necessary, would help the victims heal, etc. etc.
But it would still be EVIL.
I'm not saying another teenager in similar circumstances wouldn't have done the same thing. I'm not saying that good might come of her actions. I'm not saying that she didn't have valid reasons. I'm saying what she did was EVIL.
Rapists? Evil as hell.
Murderers - also evil. This wasn't self-defence, or in defence of others. She sought him out. It was deliberate. In effect, isn't that what he did to his victims - sought them out with a deliberate purpose in mind, got them alone...?
Again, though, if you read the comics you know the guy survives, so this whole argument is moot, anyway.
AnimeJune, I take it you never seen what evil really does? I seen what rape does and murder and more. Killing those punks isn't evil. Hell, God did it so what works for Him....
and that's all I'm going to say about this.
StorminNorman
10-19-2006, 12:01 AM
For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.
Bombing Hiroshima was a necessary evil, but it was still evil - do you understand my point?
Morg thinks killing rapists would be great. For sure, in many cases it might be necessary, would help the victims heal, etc. etc.
But it would still be EVIL.
I'm not saying another teenager in similar circumstances wouldn't have done the same thing. I'm not saying that good might come of her actions. I'm not saying that she didn't have valid reasons. I'm saying what she did was EVIL.
Rapists? Evil as hell.
Murderers - also evil. This wasn't self-defence, or in defence of others. She sought him out. It was deliberate. In effect, isn't that what he did to his victims - sought them out with a deliberate purpose in mind, got them alone...?
Again, though, if you read the comics you know the guy survives, so this whole argument is moot, anyway.
Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).
June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?
Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.
Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.
Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.
Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow::batman:
In many perspectives though Claire is a klutz.
The Question
10-19-2006, 12:11 AM
For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.
But, that brings up the arguement: Is it possible for an action to be evil? Actions are nuetral in nature, I think. It's the intent behind the action that is good or evil.
Anyway, I think you're using the word evil far too loosely.
xwolverine2
10-19-2006, 01:21 AM
Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow::batman:
LOL!...
batman = Mr. Rogers
:woot:
Angelus7181
10-19-2006, 08:12 AM
Claire did the right thing.. telling on him won't do any good and seeing how he dumped Claire in the river like a piece of trash and moved on to his next prey by the next episode.. any girl with her type of powers would have done the same thing or worse.
Claire is badass! :woot:
Immortalfire
10-20-2006, 10:29 PM
Killing a rapist isn't evil, it's like putting a rabid dog down :up:
gambitfire
10-21-2006, 12:38 AM
Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).
June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?
Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.
Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.
Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.
Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow::batman:
I like this logic it doesn't necessarily make you a killer, Batman took an oath to never kill something the movie in this sense did not overlook. Therefore neithe did Claire. :p
Crowforge
10-21-2006, 12:58 AM
Hey, does this affect her future insurance rates?
AnimeJune
10-21-2006, 12:33 PM
Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).
June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?
Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.
Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.
Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.
Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow::batman:An interesting point. I guess maybe the reason I'm so against what she did was because it was unexpected of her character. I went into Batman Begins knowing that it was a fantasy costumed-hero movie, and that Batman is a dark character, so I guess I suspended my moral disbelief for that movie.
An interesting way to think about it.
The Question
10-21-2006, 12:45 PM
An interesting point. I guess maybe the reason I'm so against what she did was because it was unexpected of her character. I went into Batman Begins knowing that it was a fantasy costumed-hero movie, and that Batman is a dark character, so I guess I suspended my moral disbelief for that movie.
An interesting way to think about it.
It is unexpected, but it follows a natural progression. If you were killed by a rapist, came back to life, and found out that he's in fact a serial rapist, then you'd probably be pushed over the edge.
fangrl06
10-21-2006, 07:12 PM
"Save the cheerleader, save the world"? Could this mean save her from herself?
gambitfire
10-21-2006, 11:02 PM
Hey, does this affect her future insurance rates?
ROTFLMAO!!...........
.....
Not if she's with Progressive (I think), they have that forgivness policy.
I for one prefer the Gecko. :o
:)
gambitfire
10-23-2006, 11:06 AM
Is the guy in the car named Brody Mitchum because if it is then not only does he survive but he discovers her power, and judging from the 2 minute preview........he does. :wow:
interesting so far.
fangrl06
10-24-2006, 06:47 PM
ROTFLMAO!!...........
.....
Not if she's with Progressive (I think), they have that forgivness policy.
I for one prefer the Gecko. :o
:)
Progressive's "forgivness" policy is a bunch of crap. Only one person in your family is covered for 5 years in the forgivness policy and Geico isn't great either. They are a really cheap company and are only worth the low rates you pay them. I'd say the best bet is to go with Allstate, but that's just me. Anyway, I think Claire is the best character on Heroes. Her and Nikki, because they have major character flaws that make them likeable and human. I want to see more of Zach!
gambitfire
10-24-2006, 09:11 PM
I like her but i don't think she's that flawed.
Issac's F*ing Flawed. :p
i like them all damit.
Except Nathan i like to hate him for now. :D
StorminNorman
10-24-2006, 10:00 PM
Nathan is one of my favorite characters - I love the fact he is so two faced.
The Lizard
02-07-2007, 09:19 PM
Someone needs to keep Hayden away from that life-force draining Paris Hilton.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/35624596_f3aefc25f1.jpg?v=0
Abaddon
02-07-2007, 09:22 PM
she smokes.:csad:
The Lizard
02-07-2007, 09:26 PM
Well, in all fairness that pic was taken in late 2005, so maybe she's quit smoking and hanging out with Paris by this point. If Hayden's got any brains, she might have seen what happened to Lindsay Lohan and straightened up.
EDIT: Although I just found this pic, which was just taken in December of 2006...:(
http://www.mollygood.com/celebrities/120405%20paris%20hayden.jpg
Leave her alone Paris, you evil bloodsucking, intellect-lowering succubus! :cmad:
Apparently I'm not alone in this attitude... http://suburbarazzi.lohudblogs.com/2007/01/19/an-open-letter-to-hayden-panettiere/
AssMan
02-07-2007, 09:40 PM
So that is Paris's goal in life. **** up the younger more likeable ones in Hollywood. First Britney & then Lindsay & now Hayden. Paris needs to be terminated
fu manchu
02-07-2007, 09:57 PM
http://www.mollygood.com/celebrities/120405%20paris%20hayden.jpg
:wow: LA : Lesbian Action
TwilightPro101
05-26-2007, 06:35 PM
Need a Hayden Pianettiere thread just dedicated to her.
Angelus7181
11-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Hayden Panettiere's Save The Dolphins, Save The World.
http://hosted.ap.org/photos/C/c4e3b543-f7c6-4fdf-b2e8-fd538f1ce8d3-big.jpg
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PEOPLE_PANETTIERE?SITE=MOSTP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT"]http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PEOPLE_PANETTIERE?SITE=MOSTP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah7291.shtml?dst=rss%7cgeneral_rss
Eddie Brock
11-03-2007, 05:59 PM
Nathan is one of my favorite characters - I love the fact he is so two faced.
Oh...how ironic that comment is now. :oldrazz:
Dr Lee
11-16-2007, 11:13 AM
Holy.....
Please tell me she was doing some modelling for them later????
http://www.joblo.com/moviehotties/images/news-gallery/thumb/65365u56u.jpg (http://joblo.com/moviehotties/picture_viewer.php?pic=http://www.joblo.com/moviehotties/images/news-gallery/orig/65365u56u.jpg)
http://www.joblo.com/moviehotties/images/news-gallery/thumb/haydenpanettierevictoriassecretnov2007.jpg (http://joblo.com/moviehotties/picture_viewer.php?pic=http://www.joblo.com/moviehotties/images/news-gallery/orig/haydenpanettierevictoriassecretnov2007.jpg)
Mysterio
11-16-2007, 12:49 PM
Nikki >>>> Claire
claire >>>> >>> >>> nikki
Mysterio
11-16-2007, 03:09 PM
claire is a boring character. the only thing interesting in her story is the involvement of her father.
Eddie Brock
11-16-2007, 03:25 PM
Niki is a boring character who hasn't progressed one millimeter since Episode 1 of the first Season. In her quest to be the most pointless character on television, she has dragged down DL and Micah - two potentially interesting characters. Her death would be the single greatest plot point to ever occur on Heroes.
Fixed. :o
claire is a boring character. the only thing interesting in her story is the involvement of her father.
Maybe that is true, but the pictures make me think that Hayden is a goddess. :yay:
Mysterio
11-16-2007, 03:31 PM
Maybe that is true, but the pictures make me think that Hayden is a goddess. :yay:i'd probably think the same if i were 16.
Eddie Brock
11-16-2007, 03:34 PM
Snap.
I have no qualms about discussing my bitter hatred for Niki. She's easily my most hated fictional character.
1. Niki
2. Smallville's Lana Lang
3. Holden Caulfield from The Catcher and the Rye.
i'd probably think the same if i were 16.
Umm, Hayden is 18.
Mysterio
11-16-2007, 03:49 PM
Umm, Hayden is 18.
but i'm not. i would probably think she is a goddess if i were 16.
"but the pictures make me think that Hayden is a goddess."
but i'm not. i would probably think she is a goddess if i were 16.
"but the pictures make me think that Hayden is a goddess."
True, Sorry, I read that wrong.
Abaddon
11-16-2007, 05:06 PM
I have no qualms about discussing my bitter hatred for Niki. She's easily my most hated fictional character.
1. Niki
2. Smallville's Lana Lang
3. Holden Caulfield from The Catcher and the Rye.
the only one we can agree on:o
I have no qualms about discussing my bitter hatred for Niki. She's easily my most hated fictional character.
1. Niki
2. Smallville's Lana Lang
3. Holden Caulfield from The Catcher and the Rye.
i agree so much with you it's unbelievable. well, at least with the first two. i actually haven't read the catcher and the rye... so i have no opinion on the last one.
but i actually can't decide which character i hate more, niki or lana. its like ... having two pieces of wood lodged into your arm, and debating which one hurts the most... its hard to decide with the agony.
The Chairman
11-17-2007, 07:18 AM
I'm meeting her soon.
I'm meeting her soon.
How was it?
The Chairman
11-19-2007, 04:50 PM
How was it?
Incredibly awesome. All the photos are there. Except the one I took today.
Flying Jokeshop
11-21-2007, 12:23 AM
So it looks like Claire is immortal like Adam. I'd love to see an episode set in the year 4000, with Hiro and an ancient Claire fighting Adam and future heroes.
Raiden
11-21-2007, 01:11 AM
So it looks like Claire is immortal like Adam. I'd love to see an episode set in the year 4000, with Hiro and an ancient Claire fighting Adam and future heroes.
Don't forget that Peter is immortal as well.
Flying Jokeshop
11-21-2007, 01:44 AM
Don't forget that Peter is immortal as well.
That's true, I guess Adam figures Peter might eventually forgive him for lying to him, since they are probably going to keep bumping into each other thoughout eternity.
And all 3 of them better hope that warp drive gets discovered in the future, or else learn to get along, because they'll be a long time floating in space together when the sun finally goes.
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