"There will be more" -Christian Bale

[SeriousDuke]

Not sure how many watched the MTV movie awards, but the first category of the night was Best Hero. The cast of Superman Returns, including Brandon Routh and Kevin Spacey, presented the award. As many of you know, since the results were released early, Christian Bale won the award for his portrayal of Batman in Batman Begins. His acceptance speech was very long, surprising. Since Bale likes to keep out of the spotlight as much as he can. When his name was said, he leaned over to kiss his wife and stood up. He went up and shook hands with Superman. OMG!!! So cool! He began his speech. He said,

"I would like to thank Chris Nolan, for giving the Dark Knight back his dignity, and I'm glad that we got the nipples off of the bat suit. I'd also like to thank Bob Kane for creating this bad ass hero in 1939. And Superman, we have to admit that Batman is the bad ass," Routh nods, "Thank you very much for the award, and there will be more." He walks off stage.

Again, the thing wasn't word for word, he said a lot more, but just the fact that Bale said THERE WILL BE MORE. WOW! He seems like a reserved guy, doesn't want to bring too much heat down. So, very cool. For the folks who want to see it, catch it when the awards are next on, its the first award so you don't have to watch it for long, lol.

~SD

[Ronny Shade]

geauh

[IzzyJG99]

I cracked up when I saw this. It's totally apepoo insane hearing Bruce Wayne talk with a crazy English accent. I was like "Oh, I'll get to hear hi---What? The hell is wrong with him? He sounds like Michael Caine! Michael Caine in Space!"

I fully expected Christian to say something like "Baboo can grow up to 36" in a day. That's somethin' baboo and I have in common...aw'right."

[El Payaso]

WOW.

Does this mean there will be sequels??? WOW

OMG

There's another thread for this!!!

WOW

[SeriousDuke]

I mean, with it coming from Bale... that's great.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluWfNZL80I

~SD

[DV8]

we know there are going to be at least 2 sequels . . . he's already signed :confused:

Now . . . if he mentioned that there would be more after that, that would be something exciting . . .

[CConn]

For non-fans out of the know, it's exciting, for us, it's like telling an art historian The Da Vinci Code is fictional.

[MJZ]

Nothing new but it's great to see they're so committed to this franchise and love what they're doing.

[Two-Face]

Bale Dammit!!!

[batman44]

^yeah Bale Danggit.........I don't swear.

[IzzyJG99]

I look at it this way. The fact that he even knew who Wonder Woman is shows that he 1. Reads comics. 2. Knows more than the previous idiots who put on the cape and cowl.
So, that's good for us fanboys, folks.

Oh, and he taught us all a very important lesson. If you want sex from your wife....compare her to Wonder Woman. </70's Porno Music\>

[Conundrum]

I thought Bale had a Welsh accent. Or has he always had a London accent?

[Katsuro]

Awesome, now the general public knows a new Batman films i coming. A lot of people still think Begins was a prequel, so perhaps the news of a sequel to it will make them rethink that.

[IzzyJG99]

I thought Bale had a Welsh accent. Or has he always had a London accent?

He's Welsh, yeah. His accent is very Southern English Cockney. That's the accent where the "pirate accent" came from according to Craig Fergusson of the Late Late Show on CBS. He's Scottish. He knows his stuff not only because he's on TV, but because he looks like what I'll look like when I'm 43.

[TALON]

Yeah, I saw it. That was definitely a sweet moment when Bale turns to Routh saying Batman is badass. I love his dedication and rattling off the facts of when Batman came on the scene. I'm almost certain none of the Batmans before knew about that Bob Kane trivia. Bale is certainly the man.

[Retroman]

Saw the video in the SR thread. This sounds like music to my ears.

[CConn]

I'm almost certain none of the Batmans before knew about that Bob Kane trivia.Considering all of the other Batmen actually met with Bob Kane, you're probably really mistaken.

[Two-Face]

Haha CConn, I was about to post same thing.

[The-Night]

Haha CConn, I was about to post same thing.

In fact, in the speacial features on the new Batman 89 disc 2, there is a shot of Bob Kane drawing a picture of Batman while Keaton stood no more than 5 feet away!

p.s.
England huh two-face? Well good luck beating my boys from Brazil if they are to meet again!:up:

[IzzyJG99]

In fact, in the speacial features on the new Batman 89 disc 2, there is a shot of Bob Kane drawing a picture of Batman while Keaton stood no more than 5 feet away!

p.s.
England huh two-face? Well good luck beating my boys from Brazil if they are to meet again!:up:

"Boys from Brazil?! Don't you know that the boys from Brazil are little Hitlers? I read it in a book about boys from Brazil. The title escapes me."-Homer J. Simpson.

[zer00]

I look at it this way. The fact that he even knew who Wonder Woman is shows that he 1. Reads comics. 2. Knows more than the previous idiots who put on the cape and cowl.
So, that's good for us fanboys, folks.

Oh, and he taught us all a very important lesson. If you want sex from your wife....compare her to Wonder Woman. </70's Porno Music\>

Because even an 80 year old blind man knows who Wonder Woman is.

[CConn]

I look at it this way. The fact that he even knew who Wonder Woman is shows that he 1. Reads comics. 2. Knows more than the previous idiots who put on the cape and cowl.
So, that's good for us fanboys, folks.1. My 5yo cousin who can't even read knows who Wonder Woman is.

2. As I already said, the other Batmen actually met Bob Kane, not to mention there is absolutely nothing to prove they knew or didn't know any more or less about Batman than Bale does.

3. Stop making things up to make Bale look good. He's good enough.

[The-Night]

"Boys from Brazil?! Don't you know that the boys from Brazil are little Hitlers? I read it in a book about boys from Brazil. The title escapes me."-Homer J. Simpson.

yeah I've seen the movie, but I think you know what I was reffering to!

[TALON]

Considering all of the other Batmen actually met with Bob Kane, you're probably really mistaken.

Yay! Good for you for knowing that. Pat yourself on the back wise one.

[zer00]

Yay! Good for you for knowing that. Pat yourself on the back wise one.

Awww you got proven wrong and got mad:(

[CConn]

Yay! Good for you for knowing that. Pat yourself on the back wise one.Your e-testicles must be gigantic.

[batmaluco]

He began his speech. He said,

"I would like to thank Chris Nolan, for giving the Dark Knight back his dignity

Bale Dammit!!!

p.s.
England huh two-face? Well good luck beating my boys from Brazil if they are to meet again!:up:
Are you talking about this?
http://www.lusomundo.net/imagens/2004/12/noticias/imgs/22/pequeno/bola_futebol_dr.jpg

[Cinemaman]

Maybe WB are going to make SVB (Superman vs. Batman)??? :confused:

Some actors from SR have already signed for 2 mores sequels, the same with Batman sequels. So....

[Avernus]

Maybe WB are going to make SVB (Superman vs. Batman)??? :confused:

Some actors from SR have already signed for 2 mores sequels, the same with Batman sequels. So....

I'd like to see it...but I see it as them wasting money because they can make a boatload with the movies individually....rather than combine them like has been rumored with the Hulk and FF 4 and movies of the like...

another thing I thought of is spider-man joining another super-hero movie and this would somewhat give them the clearance to re-cast spiderman as apparently Tobey Maguire isn't fond of doing spiderman anymore??..

I guess he hasn't seen seabiscuit....he should stick to spiderman...

[Hades]

How can they put Harry Potter in the same catergory as Batman.

[Steelsheen]

I mean, with it coming from Bale... that's great.

Here is the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluWfNZL80I

~SD


downloadable version please? :(

[El Payaso]

How can they put Harry Potter in the same catergory as Batman.

Magic.

[Payle Gray]

I would have been more impressed if Bale had mentioned Bill Finger as well.

[SeriousDuke]

No... sorry, a downloadable version isn't available. Not to my knowledge anyway.

~SD

[mcflytrap]

OMG

As giddy as I got watching that, I'm going to have to be careful when the new movie comes out. I could hurt someone.

[Avernus]

OMG

As giddy as I got watching that, I'm going to have to be careful when the new movie comes out. I could hurt someone.

between 2005 and 2008....that will have been an extremely long 3 years....

even though that is the average wait....I cannot stand it..

[Steelsheen]

edit: nothing to see... move along, move along...

[SeriousDuke]

Well... it's already been one full year since Begins... almost. And, this year has really just flown by. Two more years to go...

Look at it this way. Last year we got Batman. This year we get Superman. Next year we get Spider-Man 3. And the year after that we get Batman!!! It isn't that long guys! We have so much to look forward to in the mean time.

~SD

[ArmsHeldOut]

He's Welsh, yeah. His accent is very Southern English Cockney. That's the accent where the "pirate accent" came from according to Craig Fergusson of the Late Late Show on CBS. He's Scottish. He knows his stuff not only because he's on TV, but because he looks like what I'll look like when I'm 43.

Yep. Bale changes the way he talks all the time based on personal preference.
Truth be told, although born in Wales, he spent more time in England, California and Portugal.
Quick trivia: Bale's mother was born and raised in London; whereas, his father grew up in South Africa (also of English descent).

[Katsuro]

I would have been more impressed if Bale had mentioned Bill Finger as well.

I doubt he'd have been allowed to. There's all kinds of legal crap when it comes to Finger not getting the recognition he deserves.

[BatmanBale]

Christian Bale:"There will be more"

Great, Can't wait for Batman 2

[Steelsheen]

I doubt he'd have been allowed to. There's all kinds of legal crap when it comes to Finger not getting the recognition he deserves.
yeah that just sucks doesnt it? i mean we're nearing the century mark for this franchise and they cant let bygones be bygones and give to the man what he rightously deserves? i mean editors long gone gets a byline and they had nothing to do with the creation of Batman and the guy who's largely responsible of Batman's look and backstory gets jack squat?

life's not fair. even when you're dead :(

[Borat]

I look at it this way. The fact that he even knew who Wonder Woman is shows that he 1. Reads comics. 2. Knows more than the previous idiots who put on the cape and cowl.
So, that's good for us fanboys, folks.

Oh, and he taught us all a very important lesson. If you want sex from your wife....compare her to Wonder Woman. </70's Porno Music\>I'll have to remember that. *writes down on paper*

[LadyVader]

I was just more psyched about seeing Routh and Bale on the same stage together then anything else.

Superman and Batman movie... some day. some day.

[Cinemaman]

I think we finally got our superheroes. While Bale is the best Batman, Routh is getting more and more positivity from critics :up:

[Retroman]

yeah that just sucks doesnt it? i mean we're nearing the century mark for this franchise and they cant let bygones be bygones and give to the man what he rightously deserves? i mean editors long gone gets a byline and they had nothing to do with the creation of Batman and the guy who's largely responsible of Batman's look and backstory gets jack squat?

life's not fair. even when you're dead :(
I agree. They should give Bill Finger credit. The creation of a comic book character is the result of mostly a writer and a artist collaboration.I'm really glad Jack Kirby gets credit on Marvel films.

[Retroman]

I think we finally got our superheroes. While Bale is the best Batman, Routh is getting more and more positivity from critics :up:
I hope Wonder Woman is next.:)

[Steelsheen]

I hope Wonder Woman is next.:)

im following the WW production very closely. although we hate delaying it any more right now we wish we could get rid of Whedon and get someone else better qualified to helm it :mad: :(

[LadyVader]

What is wrong with Whedon? And what's wrong with delaying. This is a very difficult character to bring to life. They better take their time with the movie, we don't want another Elektra on our hands.

[Retroman]

^^I haven't really been following that closely but i do know that if the script sucks Joel Silver and WB will start over again with someone else. It's been in development probably longer that Superman 5.

[Nightwing]

What is wrong with Whedon? And what's wrong with delaying. This is a very difficult character to bring to life. They better take their time with the movie, we don't want another Elektra on our hands.

He's been having to do some rewrites with the script, which is almost near completion. David Goyer already handed in the script for Flash, and said it would be going into the studio by the end of May. Which already passed, so there should be new updates about it soon. Both Flash and Wonder Woman will probably end up on the same path, depending on the filming, casting, etc. I agree though, the Wonder Woman film should be taken slowly and not rushed into.

Whedon already seems to understand the character, with bringing her in our world and who she is. The only thing I myself don't want to see rushed, is how he's going to be developing this "new" villain for the film.

[Ronny Shade]

I'm happy for Wonder Woman that Whedon is in charge, but I really wish he'd have done X3 instead.

[Nightwing]

Whedon would've done a great job with X3, not that Ratner didn't on his own terms. But Whedon's run on Astonishing X-Men has had some really good stories so far. X3 had a lot of minor flaws which could've been dealt with. It proved to be a decent film, and a lot of fans are happy that it sparked a possible fourth film.

Whedon on Wonder Woman is a good thing. I only think that he could've brought some of her rouges well onto the film, even if he's not fond of who they are. Still, I'll give what he has in mind a chance. The villain he's creating is based on Greek mythology.

[Ronny Shade]

I agree with everything you just said

[Gamma Ray]

Umm... We knew that a year ago...

[kytrigger]

I agree with everything you just said

I agree with your agreement to everything he said.

[Steelsheen]

What is wrong with Whedon? And what's wrong with delaying. This is a very difficult character to bring to life. They better take their time with the movie, we don't want another Elektra on our hands.

-- Whedon doesnt like the costume. specifically the star spangled panties. we're lucky if it stops with that, but there are some indications that WW's look may get revamped. the only thing he would comment was that WW will keep her bracelets and her "general sillouette". we can have WW in a cat suit for all we know.

-- Whedon thinks WW's current rogues gallery are not good enough (yeah Ares, the friggin God of War, is not good enough for him!), so he's creating his own villain that has roots with greek mythology (apparently Ares isnt greek enough for him either)

-- WW will not fly under her own power. the invisible jet is still being considered.

-- Whedon was due to have submitted the script to the studios months ago. heck he started at the same time, if not earlier, as Goyer did with The Flash script. now Goyer has submitted his and has a pick for the guy who'll most like be The Flash (Ryan Reynolds). its obvious that Goyer knows his Flash stuff. Whedon has submitted a draft to Silver (which was delayed btw), Silver returned it to him for revisions and right now we still dont know if the script is back with Silver, is with the studios or if he's still working on it :confused:


I'm happy for Wonder Woman that Whedon is in charge, but I really wish he'd have done X3 instead

that's what a lot of us feel. Whedon is a Marvel boy. its his forte. heck he's written one of the best X-Men titles. its obvious what he should be working on. there are many interviews that sounded like he knows a bit of greek mythology, a bit of female psychology but zero knowledge on the WW franchise. but would he pick up a comic book? would he even bother to do some research on her to at least learn what WW's been about for the past 50+ years? we have yet to hear him actually say anything remotely close to that.

that's why some of us feel that he may be better off somewhere else, or at least get someone who knows WW to help him write the script and he'll just direct. its different when a fan of a specific character writes and films the movie (Raimi with Spiderman is the best example), it shows onscreen. but with someone who has little grasp of what the character is, and you'll get CINO.

[kytrigger]

In an interview Bendis just did with Whedon, Whedon said that he is just finishing the second draft of the WW screenplay, so hopefully there will be more news somewhat soon.

[Steelsheen]

In an interview Bendis just did with Whedon, Whedon said that he is just finishing the second draft of the WW screenplay, so hopefully there will be more news somewhat soon.

the last we heard was that Wheodon has finished the 4th draft.

[Ronny Shade]

My deal is that I've never been a Wonder Woman fan. I wish someone as awesome as Whedon would be doing something that I am a fan of. That, and he's obviously better suited for X-Men.

[kytrigger]

the last we heard was that Wheodon has finished the 4th draft.

hmmm...well that's interesting...that's probably what he meant in the interview then

[Nightwing]

WW will not fly under her own power. the invisible jet is still being considered..

Aside from the Invisible Jet, the ability of her being able to leap great distances is also an idea being thrown around. Like in the old Wonder Woman television series.

[Steelsheen]

My deal is that I've never been a Wonder Woman fan. I wish someone as awesome as Whedon would be doing something that I am a fan of. That, and he's obviously better suited for X-Men.

many of us felt this way at the start, that he was a talented writer and that he's done good in bringing to life strong female characters. so it should be a credit to the WW franchise we thought. then the interviews started pouring in and we at where we are now.

[Ronny Shade]

EDIT: That wasn't true

[CConn]

-- Whedon doesnt like the costume. specifically the star spangled panties. we're lucky if it stops with that, but there are some indications that WW's look may get revamped. the only thing he would comment was that WW will keep her bracelets and her "general sillouette". we can have WW in a cat suit for all we know.He's also said in interviews how important the costume is to the character. And no one but Whedon's detractors, like yourself, have suggested he'll change anything more than add a skirt.

Not to mention the simple fact both Singer and Nolan changed Superman and Batman's costumes pretty substancially for both of their films. Hell, every superhero costume has been changed to some extent. Punisher's skull was altered for crying out loud. And, most of the time, it's done well. If you have talented people working on the film. If you consider Whedon talented, I don't see why you'd be worried.
-- Whedon thinks WW's current rogues gallery are not good enough (yeah Ares, the friggin God of War, is not good enough for him!), so he's creating his own villain that has roots with greek mythology (apparently Ares isnt greek enough for him either)And Nolan merged two characters in BB to create a villain, he reduced the Scarecrow to barely wearing a mask. I'm not saying I'm happy Whedon isn't using a comic book villain, but simply that it isn't a great indicator that the movie will be bad.
-- WW will not fly under her own power. the invisible jet is still being considered.Which is how WW was in the comics for like thirty years. :confused:

-- Whedon was due to have submitted the script to the studios months ago. heck he started at the same time, if not earlier, as Goyer did with The Flash script. now Goyer has submitted his and has a pick for the guy who'll most like be The Flash (Ryan Reynolds). its obvious that Goyer knows his Flash stuff. Whedon has submitted a draft to Silver (which was delayed btw), Silver returned it to him for revisions and right now we still dont know if the script is back with Silver, is with the studios or if he's still working on it :confused:Actually, Goyer started way before Whedon (if memory serves, I'd say maybe 6 months), and has had much less progess than Whedon has besides finding Ryan Reynolds (which hell, I could find Ryan Reynolds for Flash. It's not a hard thing to do).

Whedon however is, and always was, ahead of Goyer in terms of development. Whedon is going through rewrites, that's nothing to sweat about. The original Star Wars went through about seven of them and look how that turned out. The only thing I'd be worried about is if Silver's trying to butt his head in too much.

that's what a lot of us feel. Whedon is a Marvel boy. its his forte. heck he's written one of the best X-Men titles. its obvious what he should be working on. there are many interviews that sounded like he knows a bit of greek mythology, a bit of female psychology but zero knowledge on the WW franchise. but would he pick up a comic book? would he even bother to do some research on her to at least learn what WW's been about for the past 50+ years? we have yet to hear him actually say anything remotely close to that.He's said he was a fan of hers from the TV series, he's said he's read comics with her in it (albeit JLA rather than her solo title), so half of your worries aren't even grounded in reality.

The parts of your worries that are grounded in reality, lets remember Singer haddn't a clue about the X-Men when he started on the first film, and still hasn't read many Superman comics.

that's why some of us feel that he may be better off somewhere else, or at least get someone who knows WW to help him write the script and he'll just direct. its different when a fan of a specific character writes and films the movie (Raimi with Spiderman is the best example), it shows onscreen. but with someone who has little grasp of what the character is, and you'll get CINO.You'll get CINO when you hire an utterly horrible director. Do you believe Whedon to be utterly horrible? You don't appear to, at least. You bring up Raimi. Even though he is a fan, he's changed tons of things to Spider-Man (including his costume). From the webshooters to Doc Ock to GwenMJ, you're hardly getting a faithful adaptation simply because you have a fan as the director.

The funny thing is, I'm not even a fan of Whedon. I don't like Buffy, Firefly's alright, and I absolutely hate his fans, but the stuff you're bringing up, the concerns you have, are concerns that you could have with every superhero movie, with nearly every movie in general. The most important thing, I think, is simply how good the director, the creative team is, and Whedon is a good writer/director, and you just seem to be, honestly, overracting. Maybe because you're such a fan, maybe because that's just you, I dunno, but most of this stuff happens with every movie, and most of this stuff, no one cares about.

[Ronny Shade]

The funny thing is, I'm not even a fan of Whedon. I don't like Buffy, Firefly's alright, and I absolutely hate his fans, but the stuff you're bringing up, the concerns you have, are concerns that you could have with every superhero movie, with nearly every movie in general. The most important thing, I think, is simply how good the director, the creative team is, and Whedon is a good writer/director, and you just seem to be, honestly, overracting. Maybe because you're such a fan, maybe because that's just you, I dunno, but most of this stuff happens with every movie, and most of this stuff, no one cares about.
GAK! CConn hates me!

[LadyVader]

Yup. Cconn hates a lot of people. This is news? :)

[Ronny Shade]

Well it's news that he hates me. We were tight before.

[CConn]

I actually know a lot of his fans and do not hate them.

It's a paradox I can barely grasp at times. :(

[Ronny Shade]

you hate the collective that is "his fans"

I understand

[CConn]

Well, I hate the fanaticism a lot of them have. If you like his work, wonderful, but every time I hear someone say "Oh my Joss" or try to mount a last stitch effort to prove Serenity was somehow successful, I can't help but groan. :o

Although, I guess that fanaticism goes for all things. If I ever hear anyone say "Oh my Batman", I'd groan just as loudly. Maybe even more so if it was a special occasion. :)

[Ronny Shade]

Yeah I get it. There are definitely some crazies out there.

I consider myself a Whedon fan because I've never disliked anything he did.

[kytrigger]

Well, I hate the fanaticism a lot of them have. If you like his work, wonderful, but every time I hear someone say "Oh my Joss" or try to mount a last stitch effort to prove Serenity was somehow successful, I can't help but groan. :o

Although, I guess that fanaticism goes for all things. If I ever hear anyone say "Oh my Batman", I'd groan just as loudly. Maybe even more so if it was a special occasion. :)

I see what you're saying. I'm a huge fan of his, but I don't think he's God or anything. (That title belongs to Michael Caine) I will however give him the benefit of the doubt on any project he does until I see "proof" that it is going to be bad, or something I just won't like.

[Silver Souper]

For non-fans out of the know, it's exciting, for us, it's like telling an art historian The Da Vinci Code is fictional.

LOL perfect analogy :)

[Steelsheen]

He's also said in interviews how important the costume is to the character. And no one but Whedon's detractors, like yourself, have suggested he'll change anything more than add a skirt.
Not to mention the simple fact both Singer and Nolan changed Superman and Batman's costumes pretty substancially for both of their films. Hell, every superhero costume has been changed to some extent. Punisher's skull was altered for crying out loud. And, most of the time, it's done well. If you have talented people working on the film. If you consider Whedon talented, I don't see why you'd be worried.

CConn, expressing my desire to simply have the costume changed as little as possible wouldnt qualify me as a Whedon detractor. i may be a WW purist, but not a Whedon basher. now if i went about every board saying that "Whedon is the worst director ever!" or kept knockin Firefly/ Buffy and making derogatory remarks on his other works then i would fit the bill better :)

And Nolan merged two characters in BB to create a villain, he reduced the Scarecrow to barely wearing a mask. I'm not saying I'm happy Whedon isn't using a comic book villain, but simply that it isn't a great indicator that the movie will be bad.
but dont you find it a little counterintuitive to make a villain with roots on greek myth when WW already has a gallery of villains with roots on greek myth? if he's not entirely happy with the current state of the villains why doesnt he pick the closest one he has in his head and make changes to that? much like what in you said Nolan did in BB.

Which is how WW was in the comics for like thirty years.
a lot of the current WW fans knows her to fly. heck i'm a pre-crisis lover and i actually liked the fact that she gets to fly without going through the confusing description of "uses the updraft to float like a feather".


Actually, Goyer started way before Whedon (if memory serves, I'd say maybe 6 months), and has had much less progess than Whedon has besides finding Ryan Reynolds (which hell, I could find Ryan Reynolds for Flash. It's not a hard thing to do).

as far as my memory serves Goyer started to work earnestly on The Flash after Whedon was signed on to do WW. i could be wrong though, but i distinctly remember doing a little happy dance for the WW development then another one for the The Flash development after. now i dont know if Goyer is better at BSing people to making us believe that everything is fine and dandy on The Flash developemnt but the fact is he's done. its with the studios now. if they greenlight that, this will be the next thing on his plate. he'll help out a little for Batman2 but since he isnt really writing the script that gives him time to concentrate on The Flash.


Whedon however is, and always was, ahead of Goyer in terms of development. Whedon is going through rewrites, that's nothing to sweat about. The original Star Wars went through about seven of them and look how that turned out. The only thing I'd be worried about is if Silver's trying to butt his head in too much.
dude in the latest Bendis interview Whedon used the term "its like pulling teeth". still think he's not breaking a sweat? its not just that one interview, from all the interviews i read/ listened to Whedon comes across like he's not sure of what he's doing, he'd say something to the effect that everything is fine then proceed to whine about how WW's this or that is silly, not good enough yada yada. its sounds like he's trapped but wouldnt admit that he needs help.

oh and dont start with SW dude. the whole universe of that was developed, written and directed by Lucas. he made that universe from ground up. dont liken Whedon to him because Whedon isnt-- and shouldnt-- reinvent the wheel when it comes to WW.

He's said he was a fan of hers from the TV series, he's said he's read comics with her in it (albeit JLA rather than her solo title), so half of your worries aren't even grounded in reality.

The parts of your worries that are grounded in reality, lets remember Singer haddn't a clue about the X-Men when he started on the first film, and still hasn't read many Superman comics.
actually he gave his kudos to Linda Carter (being that she was a good WW) but he hated the TV series. and do you really think you'd get the whole picture of a character by reading a title where only part of her personality shines through (if they even give enough panels for her in the first place)?

you brought up Singer and his work with the X-Men, and as popular as those films were, can you honsetly say that it would even come close to being described as a definitive X-Men movie (as definitive as movie adaptations would allow)? Raimi may have changed a truckload of stuff for Spiderman, but those are nothing compared to what Singer did with the X-Men.


You'll get CINO when you hire an utterly horrible director. Do you believe Whedon to be utterly horrible? You don't appear to, at least. You bring up Raimi. Even though he is a fan, he's changed tons of things to Spider-Man (including his costume). From the webshooters to Doc Ock to GwenMJ, you're hardly getting a faithful adaptation simply because you have a fan as the director.

i NEVER said Whedon is a horrible director. if anything i heaped praises for him since there are few directors in Hollywood that can really bring to life strong women characters. all i'm saying is that he obviously needs help to write WW since that's where he's having such a hard time. and the sad thing is everybody thinks he's such a great writer/ director that its inconcievable that he may actually need help, that he doesnt know everything, or that there may actually be projects that he is not suited for.

The funny thing is, I'm not even a fan of Whedon. I don't like Buffy, Firefly's alright, and I absolutely hate his fans, but the stuff you're bringing up, the concerns you have, are concerns that you could have with every superhero movie, with nearly every movie in general. The most important thing, I think, is simply how good the director, the creative team is, and Whedon is a good writer/director, and you just seem to be, honestly, overracting. Maybe because you're such a fan, maybe because that's just you, I dunno, but most of this stuff happens with every movie, and most of this stuff, no one cares about.
yes i am a fan. and you have to understand CConn, for WW fans this is the first time we get a big screen adaptation. sure we had the TV series but ask any Batfan, do you think they would've been content with just the Adam West version? at least they have the great cartoons. we never had a WW cartoon outside of the JLU. and WW from the JLU doesnt really show the whole character as she is, many times she's pretty one-dimensional. so this movie is a chance for the whole world to know who WW really is, many for the first time. please dont hate us for wanting the world to know the real WW and not some made up version from someone who barely knows the character.

[regwec]

I cracked up when I saw this. It's totally apepoo insane hearing Bruce Wayne talk with a crazy English accent. I was like "Oh, I'll get to hear hi---What? The hell is wrong with him? He sounds like Michael Caine! Michael Caine in Space!"

I fully expected Christian to say something like "Baboo can grow up to 36" in a day. That's somethin' baboo and I have in common...aw'right."
Bale speaks in an English accent because he was born to English parents in Wales, and moved to England early in his life. Being a proper actor, he is able to play an American character with little difficulty.

[The Batman]

I was just more psyched about seeing Routh and Bale on the same stage together then anything else.

Superman and Batman movie... some day. some day.


its gotta happen....it dosent even have to be with bale or routh, IMo...

[Golgo-13]

I loved Bale comment about the Bat Nipples!

[SeriousDuke]

Not surprising that this is the last comment...^^

People just wanna forget those!!!

~SD

[Dr.Doom]

1. My 5yo cousin who can't even read knows who Wonder Woman is.

2. As I already said, the other Batmen actually met Bob Kane, not to mention there is absolutely nothing to prove they knew or didn't know any more or less about Batman than Bale does.

3. Stop making things up to make Bale look good. He's good enough.And I remember hearing somewhere that Kane said that Val Kilmer played the best Bruce.

[kytrigger]

And I remember hearing somewhere that Kane said that Val Kilmer played the best Bruce.

Well that's probably because his was the only Bruce so far in movies. One of the weakest points of Burton's films was that there was very little development for Bruce Wayne. Keaton wasn't bad at all as Bruce, he just didn't have much time as him.

[CConn]

Burton's vision for Bruce Wayne was very different from the Bruce Wayne in the comics.

[Dr.Doom]

Well that's probably because his was the only Bruce so far in movies. One of the weakest points of Burton's films was that there was very little development for Bruce Wayne. Keaton wasn't bad at all as Bruce, he just didn't have much time as him.Well, he didnt say in relation to the other actors that have played him. He thought he was the perfect choice.