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Retroman
06-09-2006, 07:21 PM
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Interview from December, 2004

DRE: I read that you pitched 20th Century Fox for you to write the Wolverine movie, then you got it and you also pitched Warner Bros on Troy. You must be pretty good at it.

DB: Well with Wolverine it was easier because Troy was already being done. For Troy it was a leap of faith because I had only done a $12 million Spike Lee movie. With Wolverine the story is already there so the people at Fox and Marvel know everything about Wolverine. That meeting was just showing them how passionate I was about this character. I’ve been reading Wolverine comics for 23 years.

DRE: What was the first Wolverine comic you ever read?

DB: I think it was the issue of X-Men that a friend lent to me when I was 12. I believe it was a really early issue of X-Men that Chris Claremont wrote.

DRE: Can you talk about what the story of the Wolverine movie will be?

DB: I’m not allowed to talk about it. Fox is pretty careful about that. It’s not even totally finalized what story we are doing. What I can say is that in the X-Men movies we’ve seen a lot of the sweet Wolverine so I think it’s time to mess him up a little bit because all the fans know that he’s the best there is at what he does but what he does isn’t very nice. Also getting to write “Snikt” in a comic book is the coolest thing.

DRE: Did Bryan Singer leaving change your timetable at all?

DB: He had already left before I came on. But I did get to meet Hugh Jackman the other day which was pretty cool.

DRE: Any Japanese stuff going into the Wolverine movie?

DB: [laughs] I can’t talk about it. Nice try though.

For what it’s worth that’s definitely the best Wolverine saga, the whole Lady Mariko and The Hand storyline. I went back and reread the Chris Claremont and Frank Miller miniseries and the Barry Windsor Smith Weapon X.

DRE: Have you been catching up on recent Wolverine comics to prepare?

DB: Yeah I hadn’t read any of the recent stuff so I’ve been catching up with the Grant Morrison X-Men comics and some of the new Greg Rucka stuff. One of the coolest things about this job is that I can call up Marvel and say send me whatever X-Men and Wolverine I want. It makes my 12 year old self so happy.

DRE: A lot of Hollywood people are writing comics right now. Would you be interested in doing that?

DB: Sure it would be a fun challenge. I think it would be a lot of fun to work with an artist.
Source: http://suicidegirls.com/words/David+Benioff/



04-15-2005

WOLVERINE SCREENWRITER KEEPS IT REAL

Newsarama’s friends at Comics Buyer’s Guide scores an exclusive interview with Wolverine screenwriter David Benioff in their latest issue (#1605, June 2005). The Troy scribe cops to a life-long obsession with the character, citing 1982’s Chris Claremont/Frank Miller limited series as his favorite Wolverine storyline and the moment Logan’s adamantium skeleton gets sheared of all flesh by a Sentinel blast in “Days of Future Past (Uncanny X-Men #141-142) as a traumatic moment for his as a kid.

While understandably tight-lipped on details regarding this screenplay (an assignment he calls “living a childhood dream” and aggressively pursued going back as far as 3 years ago), Benioff did tell CBG he’s writing Wolverine with Hugh Jackman very much in mind.

“Other than the height, I think Jackman was inspired casting,” he tells CBG. “Though, when he was first picked for the role, I thought, “Huh?’ at the time, probably along with most Wolverine fans. Now I can’t really imagine Wolverine being played by anyone else: Jackman’s performance obviates consideration of anyone else for the part.”

That said, Benioff did say he wants to “rough” Wolverine/Jackman up a bit, giving him an opportunity to show sides the first two movies didn’t afford the character aside from the Mansion invasion scene in X2. Promising his story will be a “bit darker and a bit more brutal”, Benioff says he’s writing an ‘R’ script and that Marvel Studios and director will have to decide where to go from there.

Finally, Benioff tells CBG that his script and vision stays away from the more “fantastical” elements associated with the X-Men franchise.

“I’m going to stay away from the ‘Four Riders’ kind of stories and the science fiction stories where he was battling aliens or demons”, says the writer. “I’m sticking with something more realistic. Of course it is kind of hard to talk realism when you’re speaking about a guy who has adamantium claws popping out of this hands. But my concept of him for this movie is the one I grew up with: He’s a gritty character, a tough, working-class Canadian guy who was born with certain special powers and granted more through a series of brutal experiments – for more that’s my Wolverine reality. I’m not going too far from that.”

The full 3-page interview which details Benioff’s thoughts on the character in much greater detail can be read in its entirety in the new issue of CBG, on sale now at comic book shops and newsstands and arriving in subscriber’s mailboxes right now.
Source: http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31765

_BB_
06-09-2006, 07:58 PM
Finally, a writer who actually gets the wolverine character :up:

Boiiinng
06-09-2006, 11:40 PM
Sounds like no Origin, almost like he's never read it.

Rac
06-10-2006, 07:10 AM
Origin wasn't that great so I'm not complaining.

TNC9852002
06-10-2006, 07:32 AM
I'm sure they'll give him an original twist like only a Wolverine movie could have..

I hope they spill the beans on a possible storyline by the end of this year..

-TNC

JokerNick
06-10-2006, 10:12 AM
what's was wolvie's origin, wasn't he born into a wealthy family and was very sickely? Wasn't it also, that the man who he thought was his father wasn't, and that man was killed by Wolverines real father, which then eolverine killed and that's when he mutant power started, when his false father was killed?

Boiiinng
06-10-2006, 12:16 PM
what's was wolvie's origin, wasn't he born into a wealthy family and was very sickely? Wasn't it also, that the man who he thought was his father wasn't, and that man was killed by Wolverines real father, which then eolverine killed and that's when he mutant power started, when his false father was killed?

Been a while since I took it out of it's plastic, but yeah something like that. I'd at least like to see it on screen, it'd have a pretty good surprise factor for those who don't know.

squeekness
06-10-2006, 05:46 PM
Thanks for posting that interview, Retroman. Sounds like we have a writer committed to the right things. That 1982 mini was one of Logan's best. :up: I am looking forward to this film more and more. :D

stormcloud03
06-10-2006, 05:56 PM
When can I see it?
It is a wolverine movie people and the writer seems to knows his stuuf and wolverine and ... *dreamy look* I can't wait to see it

FireandIce213
06-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Damn Cant wait for this, I think the absolute darkest and most feral behavior we've seen out of wolverine in the X-Men movies was in the beginning of the first movie where he got into it with the guy in the bar who wanted his money back after wolverine beat him in a cage fight. As well as the mansion invasion scene in x2...I mostly cant wait to see wolverine/Jackman in his most feral and animalistic moments in this movie.:wolverine

GoHF
06-10-2006, 08:01 PM
well, don't get all happy just because we get a "comic book geek" on the movie... :P Even though this writer sounds like the real thing (and probably is), please don't forget this movie WILL be PG-13 (since Fox has a scientific study proving mature movies cause brain cancer, and something about not making tons of money from people that aren't even old enough to earn it). Outside providing a guideline in the form of a script, the author has little say in the final product.

We might get an X2-massion-assault-like wolverine, but most likely that'll be it, they won't go into anything too scary. I'm betting on "I am wolverine, behold my bad attitude for I smoke in hospitals, don't shave every day, the people I kill actually bleed and I have a canadian accent somewhere in there".

(the "bleeding" part: If you don't know what I'm talking about, just watch X3 a few more times. Claws go in clean, claws come out clean, no matter if he cuts legs, guts, faces, whatever)

And while I'm writing this, regarding characters and storylines, if X3 showed us anything it's that there are no noticeable limits to Fox's ability to bend and transform whichever parts of the canon it wants to. To say character X or character Y will or won't make it into the movie isn't a big deal, it's rather how they'll make it into the movie. I'm sure Omega Red would be cool, but without the white-skin, carbonadium tentacles or russian-badass-elite-assassin attitude, he'd be that much worse. I fear for the Weapon-X program :/

Dark Knight
06-11-2006, 10:55 PM
everything he says is awesome! It certainly sounds like we will see an adaptation of Japanese origins and some Weapon X stuff in his script,,,,if you read between the lines.

Plus he says his script will be meant to be an R film....which is great to hear.

Hearing him talk about roughing up Wolverine and his story being more grounded in reality compared to him being half assed Wolverine in the X films is also great to hear. Everything sounds good to me so far.....just need a solid director and hope Avi Arad and Fox don't ruin it....

triplefive
06-12-2006, 06:25 PM
I could be wrong, but the only time we've seen blood on Wolverine's claws is his OWN blood in the flashback scene in X2. Stupid PG-13 rating.

Triligors
06-12-2006, 07:20 PM
He did mention rated R though. And hopefully Fox will stick with this- I mean, after all it is Wolverine. They will have tons of teenagers (sneaking in &/or going with a parental guardian) and adults seeing the film- especially with a hard R rating. I REALLY hope it is a hard R.

Retroman
06-21-2006, 02:25 AM
^^He says he's writing it R Rated doesn't mean it will get that rating. FOX made Alien vs Predator PG-13 remember? I think Wolverine will be the same.

Ender Durden
06-21-2006, 02:56 AM
is it just me or does this guy look more like wolverine (in the face) then hugh jackman does?

crap i know im gonna get flamed now....

FunBobPants
06-22-2006, 05:35 PM
whoa. :eek: he does look kinda like wolvy. not more than Jackman, but he DOES look like wolvy

Juggertha
06-24-2006, 06:49 PM
There is some seriously cool info there... ok, well not that much info. But just finding out that he is a real fan makes me a little more settled on it.

Iron Man™
06-25-2006, 01:17 AM
Like the Iron Man film, this one is going to kick ass. :up:

Syncos
06-25-2006, 03:09 AM
Reguardless of how true this writer is to the source material, the fate of this movie really rests in the hands of whatever director they pick up.

-syn

Iron Man™
06-25-2006, 03:13 AM
^ Well said, I agree.

Gotham
10-06-2007, 07:01 PM
Very down to earth. :yay:

Retroman
04-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Benioff is holding a Q&A tonight at The Henry Art Gallery (University of Washington) in Seattle, Washington. It costs 45 bucks for those who are interested!:wow:

I wonder what he'll make of the final movie because judging by the script review of his earlier drafts they've made lots of alterations.
Come meet WOLVERINE scribe and best-selling novelist David Benioff!
Written by Warren on April 8, 2009 – 7:26 am

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Accomplished opera singers dream of being pop stars. Professional football players long to hit the links with Tiger Woods. Hollywood screenwriters wish they’d earned their ducats and made their names as novelists.

One of them has: David Benioff.

He broke into movies, adapting his own novel, 25th HOUR, for Spike Lee. Starring Edward Norton, Philip Seymour Hoffman and Barry Pepper, the movie may be Spike’s finest, um, hour, the morally harrowing tale of a dealer’s last day of freedom. Benioff’s STAY was executed by Marc (MONSTER’S BALL) Forster; the psychological thriller featuring Ewan McGregor, Ryan Gosling and Naomi Watts, blends Ambrose Bierce with M. Night Shyamalan creating a dazzling if confounding cinematic dream-state. Benioff then re-teamed with Forster to tackle the big-screen transfer of Khaled Hosseini’s novel, THE KITE RUNNER, an impressive effort which convincingly captured the book’s local flavor and large-scale melodrama. The screenwriter’s most recent accomplishment, X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE, already owns the dubious distinction of having been quite publicly pirated a month before its release. (Word-of-mouth from those darned downloaders, however, is exuberant. Fanboys are loving them some Benioff!)

This Saturday, The Warren Report will present a special screening of 25th HOUR at The Henry Art Gallery, followed by my in-depth interview with Mr. Benioff. We’ll discuss the craft and commerce of screenwriting, explore the luxuries the business provides and, possibly, the liberties taken with TROY.

For those who’d prefer a more intimate experience, and greater focus on Mr. Benioff’s novels, please, please purchase tickets now for Friday’s edition of Words & Wine, produced by Kim Ricketts Book Events. For just $45, you’ll enjoy my hour-long moderated chat with the author, multiple opportunities to mingle with the author, you’ll receive a (signed!) copy of his second novel CITY OF THIEVES, and all the delicious food and fabulous wine you can graciously consume — courtesy of Seastar and Chateau St. Michelle, respectively. With any luck, the writer’s wife, Amanda Peet, may partake as well. (A host can dream, can’t he?)

Don’t miss these chances to hobnob with one of Hollywood’s hottest screenwriters who is also, quite proudly, one of America’s finest novelists.Source:http://thewarrenreport.com/?p=7011


Here's another interview with Benioff (from last year) where in which he discusses working on his favorite superhero....

IFOA: David Benioff on his novel and the upcoming Wolverine film

Posted: October 26, 2008, 8:57 PM by Ron Nurwisah
international festival of authors

Making writer David Benioff choose between screenplays and novels would be a painful choice. After all, he's had success in both mediums. He adapted the blockbuster novel the Kite Runner to the big screen, turned his own debut novel the 25th Hour into a film and followed it up with another novel, City of Thieves. Benioff leaves behind the contemporary urban grit of the 25th Hour for the cold climes of wartime Russia. The novel is the story of two Russian boys tasked with finding a dozen fresh eggs amidst the besieged city of Leningrad. I chatted with Benioff earlier this weekend at the IFOA:

National Post: I noticed that your novel plays a lot with autobiography. The novel starts with this scene in Florida where a screenwriter talks to his grandparents who have a last name suspiciously close to yours, but as you said it's a work of fiction. Can you talk about how that came about?

David Benioff: It’s kind of a collision of two different stories that I had, one with two boys looking for a dozen eggs in Leningrad and one being I wanted to write about my grandfather. They did live in Florida and obviously I am a screenwriter. So a lot of that prologue is real, the ‘I’ of the prologue is very similar to me.

Unfortunately, all of my grandparents have died. It’s kind of a natural process, the grandparents tend to die before the grandkids realize that they want to know more about their lives. There was a sense of wanting to rectify that mistake and go back and learn about my grandfather. I was kind of beating myself up. Why wasn’t I more curious to learn more about the man’s life? Because even though his life wasn’t the life of the novel it was still a very fascinating story. So I wrote that prologue.

Then I got the plot of the story about the eggs and they ended up coming together in my mind. I think it was because I didn’t want the first lines to be in Leningrad. I wanted there to be some kind of framing device, partly to get the reader into the story. It wasn’t so much of a strategy but for me as a writer to get into the story. To sort of work my way into 1942 and get comfortable there. That was how I did it, to imagine this as my grandfather’s story. But it wasn’t my real grandfather, I changed his name. It’s entirely a work of fiction.

At its heart, your novel, is a buddy story between this charmer, braggart Kolya and the more meek Lev Beniov. How did these characters come about?

They’re made up of characters. But when I was imagining them I was going back from first person to third person. But I ultimately decided that, like the Great Gatsby, the dominant character of that book is of course Gatsby, he’s the one that’s larger than life. but I don’t think that Fitzgerald could’ve written that book from his perspective. Part of the thing that makes him [Gatsby] larger than life is he’s being seen through the eyes of someone who’s life-size, who’s not as grand as he is.

I think it gives you more power to write about someone like that if you’re looking from the outside. Most of us aren’t like that. I’m certainly not. I don’t have Kolya’s great courage, or his confidence. All those things. It’s a lot easier for me to comment about him than occupy him from the inside or even write it in third person, where I’m commenting on both of them.

For me I was much more able to get into the mindset of it by getting into the character who was smaller of the two of them.


You're in a unique place when it comes to adaptation. You've taken literary work and turned them into film and had your own work turned into film. What have you gained from that?

I wouldn’t say I was unique, there are people I look up to, people like Richard Price, a great novelist and also a great screenwriter. Larry McMurtry, who wrote the beautiful screenplay for Brokeback Mountain, but is also a great novelist.

I’m very lucky that I get to do it. I think it’s really good for me going back and forth. There are certain stories I’m willing to devote years of my life too but there are other stories that I won’t want to spend three years on but it’s something I want to do.

Like Wolverine, I was a big comic book fanatic when I was a kid. He was my favourite superhero, so when the opportunity came up to write about him I jumped at it. But I wouldn’t want to spend three years writing about Logan.

I think it’s fun being able to go back and forth and I think it’s helpful for me when I’m adapting someone else’s book, a living writer anyway, as a novelist I know how protective they are of their material. I know they don’t want to see it f****d with. I think it gives me a different perspective from writers who aren’t screenwriters.

Can you drop any hints about this Wolverine film you're working on?

Well I'm finished it. No one has seen the final thing yet but I’m cauticously optimistic. The last time I talked to someone Canadian they asked me “he’s still Canadian, right?” And yes he’s still Canadian, there’s a key line right at the beginning where he makes that distinction between being American and Canadian. Again he’s a great, great character and obviously after working on the Kite Runner, which is obviously very serious, to go work on something completely different was good fun.

Do you worry about the more rabid fans?

The screenplay I wrote for Wolverine, it’s pretty faithful to the source material. Fans who have read the Barry Windsor-Smith Weapon X or the other comics will recognize most of the story beads and certainly I hope will recognize the character. I think he’s much closer to the character we know from the comics than the character we know from the X-men movies. We’ve made him much more brutal and brooding and more like the Logan that I grew up with.


You mentioned that he was your favourite comic book character?

This was all I read when I was 13, 14 and I got away from it for a while. I got into other things but Wolverine was always the one character I came back to. I stopped reading Fantastic Four, Spiderman all that other stuff but I stayed with Wolverine. So of course, when I got the job I reimmersed myself. So all these comic books I hadn’t read in 20-25 years it was amazing how much I remembered.

He’s a really great character, there aren’t that many characters invented, whether it’s literature or comic books that make a real imprint on the culture. Wolverine is one of them.

What are you working on next?

I’m working on a screenplay on Kurt Cobain, the life and death. I wouldn’t say it’s fun to work on, because it’s incredibly depressing but it’s fascinating. He’s a fascinating character. The fact that he came out of this tiny little town, Aberdeen, and he never graduated high school and four or five years after when he was 21 or 22 he was already one of the most famous people on the planet.SOURCE (http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/theampersand/archive/2008/10/26/ifoa-david-benioff-on-his-novel-and-the-upcoming-wolverine-film.aspx)

Hugh'sMrs
04-10-2009, 01:42 PM
The screenwriter’s most recent accomplishment, X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE, already owns the dubious distinction of having been quite publicly pirated a month before its release. (Word-of-mouth from those darned downloaders, however, is exuberant. Fanboys are loving them some Benioff!)


Fanboys are loving them Benioff. Oh really? :huh:

Pauluz
04-10-2009, 02:35 PM
Do you worry about the more rabid fans?

The screenplay I wrote for Wolverine, it’s pretty faithful to the source material. Fans who have read the Barry Windsor-Smith Weapon X or the other comics will recognize most of the story beads and certainly I hope will recognize the character. I think he’s much closer to the character we know from the comics than the character we know from the X-men movies. We’ve made him much more brutal and brooding and more like the Logan that I grew up with.


Oh, boy. What the hell happened since?

Juggernaut33
04-10-2009, 02:50 PM
Benioff's script was terrific. It had a real urban quality. It was rough, violent, simple and focused. It could of given a true 70's style movie like Mad Max, Dirty Harry or French Connection. Then Fox decided to make X-Men 4 disguised as a Wolverine movie.

Pauluz
04-10-2009, 02:59 PM
Benioff's script was terrific. It had a real urban quality. It was rough, violent, simple and focused. It could of given a true 70's style movie like Mad Max, Dirty Harry or French Connection. Then Fox decided to make X-Men 4 disguised as a Wolverine movie.

Are you serious? The script didn't resemble Wolverine to me, atleast. I mean the whole football player bully stuff is just crap, he should've kept his real origin. Which they did in a way but what we got was....oh well.

Juggernaut33
04-10-2009, 03:18 PM
Are you serious? The script didn't resemble Wolverine to me, atleast. I mean the whole football player bully stuff is just crap, he should've kept his real origin. Which they did in a way but what we got was....oh well.

And a part from the whole football player bully, what else did you think was out of place ?

Pauluz
04-10-2009, 03:52 PM
Well, the story was just so-so, it could've been so much more. This is what I wanted to see (in short):

1. The origin from the book including the ending so he goes his own way.

2. Logan going through several wars, like we saw in the film but by himself and 10x times more bad ass proving he really is the best at what he does.

3. Because of this, Logan's getting invited for 'Team X', along with Sabretooth, Silverfox, Maverick (and perhaps Deadpool to please fans). All of them have their own reasons to join. We see them training, Logan and Fox are starting to build a relationship and the team is finally going on a mission.

4. The team goes to Russia to retreive a 'mysterious liquid' called the C-Synth (this was from the cartoon) and encounter a Russian supersoldier called Omega Red. They defeat Omega Red and Sabretooth grabs a female scientist by her throat in that Russian lab for getting in his way, almost killing him. Logan sees the bloodlust that drives Sabretooth and tells him to let her live. He doesn't and the feud starts growing from here.

5. Logan wants out because he's become aware that this team is for mercenaries who could kill anyone, women and children.

Anyway, I could go on and on but I don't really have the time right now.

chaseter
04-10-2009, 04:16 PM
Yup...the writers did a mediocre job. The plot was rushed and everything felt forced with hardly any of the supporting characters getting any kind of development. It will be interesting to see the script and what was actually filmed and changed on spot because it might have been a fantastic script.

night0205
04-10-2009, 04:18 PM
Sounds pretty similar to what the movie is going to show. Omega Red & Lady Deathstrike are two characters they can do later on, which is good, if you use up all the good bad guys, then you won't have any left. There are a couple things that I hope are improved for the movie.
1. Wolverine seems badass in the movie, but they went the whole (dark knight) route and made it so he doesn't kill that many people. I think this would have pushed his struggle more between being a animal and being a hero. More death, hopefully the movie will have more :). Not innocents but military, soldier, ect.
2. The longer the movie, the more time they will have to breathe, especially considering all the story they need to go through, I hope the movie is closer to 2 hours, but I hear it is 106? Maybe a Director's Cut. It really depends on the pacing and the editing, might be fit, or it might just be Fox's way of putting more show times in the theater.
3. I hope Wolverine 2 is made and no matter how good the first one is, I hope it improves.
4. Oh and It would be nice to see Deadpool become who he is.
But I do want to make a point about Deadpool, because of all of you who are complaining. The point is this: most of you complaining, didn't know much about deadpool or even care before this movie, the reason you are making it such a big deal is because of the people who do care and are passionate about it. Deadpool did not become popular for this movie because of the comics, but because of the movie itself. Those of you who are hard core deadpool fans, I'm not aiming this towards you.

Congo Jack
04-10-2009, 04:27 PM
I liked Benioff's screenplay, looks to be far superior than the finnished film. Hopefully he's still up for writing some Wolverine comics.

chaseter
04-10-2009, 04:41 PM
Benioff's clones had me throwing up in my mouth.

Deaths Head II
04-10-2009, 04:42 PM
It's funny because I hated Benoiff's script but in a lot of ways it was better then the final one. A lot of the best lines were from it.

It still has the same problems, though. It feels more like an episode in Wolverine's past life then a movie about Wolverine as a character. But the fact they never showed how Stryker and Wolverine's relationship developed in the first place is a better approach then the final film, where they have no basis for any relationship whatsoever.

Congo Jack
04-10-2009, 05:34 PM
Benioff's clones had me throwing up in my mouth.
Oh yeah that bit was crap. Should have been fixed easily-enough though... a long and brutal fight with Wolverine and Sabretooth would have sufficed.

night0205
04-10-2009, 06:12 PM
I'm sorry but everything i've heard about benioff's script sounds...really bad. Clones, football? You people should be happy with the direction they took this movie, away from that. I don't think you people are really mad about the story of this movie, I think you are mad about specifics in the story. Deadpool, uh, well i can't really think of anything else. :)

Agent Muños
04-10-2009, 06:34 PM
The script is available online? Is there any differences to the movie?

night0205
04-10-2009, 06:40 PM
I don't remember seeing any clones or football players running around in the tv spots.

Deaths Head II
04-10-2009, 07:29 PM
I'm sorry but everything i've heard about benioff's script sounds...really bad. Clones, football? You people should be happy with the direction they took this movie, away from that. I don't think you people are really mad about the story of this movie, I think you are mad about specifics in the story. Deadpool, uh, well i can't really think of anything else. :)

The basic flow of the story is essentially the same though. The final script was better overall but Benoiff's script actually had a lot of stuff the final cut should have kept in like Wolverine becoming animal-like and hanging out with wolves after the Adamantium bonding process. I would make a list of the elements I strongly preferred they kept in, but I don't know if it would count as spoilers. I really didn't like Benoiff's script, but I feel they cut and kept some stuff they shouldn't have. Like they kept Agent Zero as a complete douche and Blob as a pointless cameo, but they reduced Dr. Hines' role.

Also, the best dialogue in the film came from the original script. There were plenty of good lines they should have used in the final film as well.

Munson: "I take it after this, Weapon X won't be walking through any metal detectors."

Stryker: "After this, Weapon X will walk wherever he wants."

night0205
04-10-2009, 07:55 PM
I would have liked to see Wolverine hanging with wolves and becoming more animal like. Like I said above, that is one thing I think should have been done to make the film stronger...pushing the envelope of Animal Vs. Hero. I agree, that from what I have "seen", take that as you will, that wolverine doesn't act or be tempted as much to be the animal he is in this movie. I always hoped that he would become more like that further on in the series...if Wolverine 2 is made. Or who knows, maybe reshoots will have more of his animal self...? If I was doin reshoots that's what I would try and focus on, and from what I have "seen" it seems to be the character arc that they are trying to focus on. It just needs to be stronger.

venom892
04-10-2009, 07:59 PM
Can someone point me towards this script?

danoyse
04-10-2009, 07:59 PM
night0205 - welcome to the forum, just wanted to post the rule regarding spoilers from the leaked workprint of the film, in case you missed it:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=322194

Just make sure you don't post spoilers from the workprint.

night0205
04-10-2009, 08:07 PM
;) gotchya

Retroman
04-11-2009, 09:47 AM
Fanboys are loving them Benioff. Oh really? :huh:

The person who wrote that is more than likley just trying to get people interested in the event.:hehe:

Ratcrawler
04-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Then Fox decided to make X-Men 4 disguised as a Wolverine movie.

That's funny because they made 3 Wolverine movies disguised as X-Men movies.

night0205
04-11-2009, 02:29 PM
That's funny because they made 3 Wolverine movies disguised as X-Men movies.

Ha ha...not funny. No you are exactly right.

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-11-2009, 09:09 PM
Ha ha...not funny. No you are exactly right.

Nah, he's really not.

As far as the original script?

Football player bullies, Sabretooth clones, Wolverine running around with wolves? Wow, that script sounded really awful.

Ratcrawler
04-11-2009, 09:44 PM
I wouldn't have minded Wolvie with Wolves.

Deaths Head II
04-11-2009, 09:53 PM
Wolverine running around with wolves? Wow, that script sounded really awful.

:dry:

chaseter
04-11-2009, 10:05 PM
Wolverine getting his name the way he did in this movie was awful:o

Nell2ThaIzzay
04-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Wolverine getting his name the way he did in this movie was awful:o

Well, I'll give you that too. That wasn't exactly a highlight of the film.

Project862006
04-11-2009, 10:23 PM
i liked how he go the name it was more sentimental

Deaths Head II
04-11-2009, 11:31 PM
I liked how he got his name too. I thought it was an interesting approach, even if it could have been handled a bit better.

chaseter
04-12-2009, 01:53 AM
His name isn't meant to be a sweet bed time story:o And, any sentimental moments attached are lost due to how they handled Silver Fox.

danoyse
04-12-2009, 02:06 AM
Ahem...let's watch the spoilers, please.

chaseter
04-12-2009, 02:10 AM
???

danoyse
04-12-2009, 02:16 AM
I think it's pretty self-explanatory.

chaseter
04-12-2009, 02:18 AM
They said it was sentimental and I said it wasn't meant to be sweet?

night0205
04-12-2009, 05:03 AM
I want to see Wolverine get his name by randomly killing hundreds of people with his claws...in a dark forest 0_0...because of Bloodlust!!! And people will be like...wow that guy kills like a frickin Wolverine!!!

danoyse
04-12-2009, 12:05 PM
They said it was sentimental and I said it wasn't meant to be sweet?

It was directed towards the overall discussion of the workprint. Not your comment.

chaseter
04-12-2009, 01:20 PM
Woman...you confuse me.

chaseter
04-12-2009, 01:22 PM
I want to see Wolverine get his name by randomly killing hundreds of people with his claws...in a dark forest 0_0...because of Bloodlust!!! And people will be like...wow that guy kills like a frickin Wolverine!!!
WTF dude no? I want to see Wolverine raised by Wolverines and then out attacking people that get to close to him!

Wolverine gets his name for a reason. If he was a fufu love machine then his name would be Unicorn.

venom892
04-12-2009, 01:41 PM
Can someone point me towards this script?Well?

Retroman
05-05-2009, 05:23 PM
Benioff is holding a Q&A tonight at The Henry Art Gallery (University of Washington) in Seattle, Washington. It costs 45 bucks for those who are interested!:wow:

I wonder what he'll make of the final movie because judging by the script review of his earlier drafts they've made lots of alterations.
Source:http://thewarrenreport.com/?p=7011

There's a video (available here (http://thewarrenreport.com/?p=7129)) with some clips from the Q&A in which Benioff is quite relaxed and funny.Unfortunately they didn't include any of the Wolverine tidbits except this one in a seperate article.

Who’s afraid of the big bad WOLVERINE?


Written by Warren on April 30, 2009 – 10:42 pm
Fox is huffing and puffing because you, dear movie-lovers, blew the house for X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE. (Pigs!) The studio is convinced that early, pirated downloads of the movie will topple this tentpole as if it were a straw-built shack. Now, I don’t doubt the box office for the fourth film in the mutant franchise may underwhelm, but that may have more to do with its content than its premature leakage. Even credited screenwriter David Benioff sounded doubtful about the movie’s merits when I interviewed him for Words & Wine.
http://thewarrenreport.com/?p=7176

sniktsnakt
05-05-2009, 06:03 PM
How hard is it to write a good screenplay? I mean, seriously?

Ratcrawler
05-05-2009, 07:10 PM
The name origin actually wasn't that bad. I mean it had some depth to it. It was one of the things I liked about this movie. The fable fit his character perfectly.

Incidentally, I always thought Sabretooth's name should have been Cougar because in nature, Cougars and Wolverines are hereditary enemies and will fight to the death. Plus it rolls off the togue better and Victor's teeth aren't 7 inches long. Who knows; if that were the case, Cougars might not be synonymous horny older women today.

The Guard
05-05-2009, 07:11 PM
I kind of prefer the name Wolverine coming from, you know, the nature of wolverines, not the nature of Logan getting "tricked". So now, for all time, he's Wolverine, not because he is feisty, brutal, and short (ok, Jackman makes this one difficult), but because he was tricked. Yeah. That makes sense.

:).

Ratcrawler
05-05-2009, 07:15 PM
Yeah, but there are lots of of fearsome clawed animals out there. Moles, COUGARS...Therizinosaurs...
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/HumanitysBane/Dinos%20and%20prehistoric%20creatures/Therizinosaurus1.jpg

Weaviles...
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k371/OminousEclipse/Weavile/Weavile-Clash.gif