Younger Versions of.....

[Retroman]

I was reading this article on the revolutionary new deaging effects that were featured in X-Men The Last Stand's opening sequence. This could be a good thing for future sequels if they want to shoot any type of flashback with Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson etc. in BB2 or 3. Anyone else agree?

http://www.fxguide.com/article357.html

[Rynan]

Let me tell you now.

Young Magneto distrubed the **** out of me. I don't want to see anymore of that tech. anytime soon.

[Retroman]

It was disturbingly good in my opnion. Do you know how many people didn't even know that it was an effects shot?

[ampersand]

I thought it was just makeup when I first saw it. Looking at the stills though, they did an amazing job.

[Dcknight]

i tought they looks like Dolls

[Steelsheen]

i thought that FX rocked :up:

[Nathan]

Looked a little like plastic, but still amazing.

[Cinemaman]

I hated that scene. It was terrible. I wanted to go from the theatre.

Magneto looked Meh to me.

[DV8]

It was disturbingly good in my opnion. Do you know how many people didn't even know that it was an effects shot?

Holy ISH!!! I thought it was camera trickery and makeup . . . especially since Mags was wearing a turtleneck . . . I thought they were using that to hide his jowels . . . this is really amazing!!

One of my pet peaves is how in every movie that you see a flashback sequence, you can tell the actor is just in makeup . . . I was really amazed at how young they made these guys look, but later in the movie, I was looking at Magneto and thought . . . "how did they hide his jowels and wrinkles so well"

[Nightwing]

There was a rumor months ago, that both the second and third film would be shot back to back like the Pirates of the Carribean sequels. It would be a good way to keep the actors young, particularly Bale if he wanted to return for a fourth. As well as Caine, Oldman, Freeman, etc. I honestly don't think that makup effects are needed. In Begins when Alfred is with Bruce before Rachel comes for Joe Chill's trial, both Bale and Caine looked young enough considering that was before he began traveling.

[Black Panther]

There was a rumor months ago, that both the second and third film would be shot back to back like the Pirates of the Carribean sequels. It would be a good way to keep the actors young, particularly Bale if he wanted to return for a fourth. As well as Caine, Oldman, Freeman, etc. I honestly don't think that makup effects are needed. In Begins when Alfred is with Bruce before Rachel comes for Joe Chill's trial, both Bale and Caine looked young enough considering that was before he began traveling.

I agree. Caine looked great in that scene, and it was a bit noticable how he differed from his past to current age, even though he didn't have that much dye in his hair or anything. And Bale almost looked like he was in his 20's. :up:

[DV8]

I wonder how much this treatment costs in regards to a CGI budget . . . depending on that, they could film a whole dam movie w/ Ra's as a younger man . . .

[kytrigger]

I was reading this article on the revolutionary new deaging effects that were featured in X-Men The Last Stand's opening sequence. This could be a good thing for future sequels if they want to shoot any type of flashback with Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Liam Neeson etc. in BB2 or 3. Anyone else agree?

http://www.fxguide.com/article357.html

I loved that technology used in X3 and think it could definately be a good idea if they use more flashbacks in BB2. The only thing I would worry about is that Nolan seems pretty against using CGI or atleast using as little as possible.

[Aiden]

I think it was good that X3 used that kind of technology because now film-makers have seen that it works and looks good, they might use it. Seeing Michael Caine reduced to his younger days would be awesome

[Steelsheen]

well Bale is lucky enough to get good genetics from his folks, so he may not really need that kind of VFX to make him look young. :D

in truth Bale has aged little since he hit puberty. he just got taller, lost the baby fat around the face and thats it :p.

[lujho]

They didn't even try to make Alfred look younger in the earliest scenes (when Bruce is a child) - I thought that was damn lazy. Not that would have expected a full CGI job but they didn't even do anything with hair, make-up or lighting.

They at least changed Gordon's hair colour.

Would have been great if they'd had the technology to really make them look 20 years younger - but if they did it in a sequel it would be very jarring because it wouldn't match what was in the first.

[AnimeJune]

I thought it was just makeup when I first saw it. Looking at the stills though, they did an amazing job.It wasn't just makeup? What did they do?

[kytrigger]

It wasn't just makeup? What did they do?

It was all done with computers, no de-aging makeup was used at all. And the scary thing is that they could go even younger. That's why there are rumors thta it will still just be Ian Mckellan in the Magneto prequel and they will just use this technology.

[Aiden]

It was all done with computers, no de-aging makeup was used at all. And the scary thing is that they could go even younger. That's why there are rumors thta it will still just be Ian Mckellan in the Magneto prequel and they will just use this technology.I thought Patrick Stewart looked a bit like a mannequin. You can't blame the FX houses, they only had like 6 weeks to do them...:(

[Cobblepot]

I'm thinking "The Hobbit".

[Shoemeister]

I for one think the technology is astonishing. When I first saw that scene in the theatres, I initially thought "Make up? Is that make up? Holy crap!"

I later found out that it was in fact this technology you mentioned and I was shocked. I think it looks great and is truly revolutionary for movie making.

Nolan doesn't like to heavily utilize CGI, that's true, but something like this has nothing to do with explosions or people flying or spaceships, it has to do with the enhancement of an image. I certainly see no problem in that. If he thought a scene needed it, I say go for it.

[Katsuro]

McKellan talked about this procedure in an interview before X3 came out, it sounds quite interesting. They actually filmed those scene completely normal, no make up or hair dye or anything. All the de-aging you saw was done on a computer. Fascinating, isn't it?

[Retroman]

I thought Patrick Stewart looked a bit like a mannequin. You can't blame the FX houses, they only had like 6 weeks to do them...:(
Imagine what they can achieve with more time?

[Retroman]

I'm thinking "The Hobbit".
Oh yeah, forgot all about that. I guess this could save Peter Jackson an extra headache with recasting.

McKellan talked about this procedure in an interview before X3 came out, it sounds quite interesting. They actually filmed those scene completely normal, no make up or hair dye or anything. All the de-aging you saw was done on a computer. Fascinating, isn't it?
It is indeed. I imagine that at some point they'll feat. some type of flashback with Alfred, Bruce's parents, Ras etc. in the sequel(s) and this technology will be an excellent solution to the aging facture.

[Steelsheen]

I'm thinking "The Hobbit".

my exact thoughts.

so long as Ian Holm stays fit enough to run around for those closeups, The Hobbit doesnt have the time preassure to get done anymore due to casting issues. and if Ian cant do simple stunts due to his age, the can always adopt what they did in Star Wars and hire another actor to do the stunts and paste Holm's head onto him :p.

[Ronny Shade]

Oh yeah, forgot all about that. I guess this could save Peter Jackson an extra headache with recasting.


It is indeed. I imagine that at some point they'll feat. some type of flashback with Alfred, Bruce's parents, Ras etc. in the sequel(s) and this technology will be an excellent solution to the aging facture.
Christian Bale did an excellent job looking like he was just out of college just by his haircut and demeanor.

and Ra's doesn't age.

[batmaluco]

Christian Bale did an excellent job looking like he was just out of college just by his haircut and demeanor.

and Ra's doesn't age.
Neither (the great) Michael Caine.
:p

[Ronny Shade]

apparently

[AnimeJune]

Imagine what they can achieve with more time?Yeah - it could mean that actresses over 40 can finally start getting some decent work!

[lujho]

I'm thinking "The Hobbit".

Oh, yes, absolutely. Ian Holm circa 1980 as Bilbo. Perfect. I really, really hope they do that rather than re-cast.

You wouldn't need to bother with Gandalf though - he'd be around the same age anyway.

[Ronny Shade]

wouldn't it be expensive to do it for a whole movie?

[lujho]

and Ra's doesn't age.

But Liam Neeson does, and that's where the de-aging tech comes in.

[Ronny Shade]

But Liam Neeson does, and that's where the de-aging tech comes in.
not really necessary for the next 2 films....later on, yeah.

[lujho]

wouldn't it be expensive to do it for a whole movie?

Yeah, but you'd only do it for a really big movie. Or if it was a more modest movie where it was the only major effect.

[Ronny Shade]

I could see them doing it for a Buffy movie, since Boreanaz and Marsters are getting a wee old.

[The Batman]

I dont think oldman or neeson need it, because i dont think theyd be in flashbacks. Alfred maybe

[Retroman]

Maybe something involving Morgan Freeman?

[Ronny Shade]

I'd love to see what this history between Alfred and Lucius is.

[The Batman]

ah, yes. i forgot lucius had history with the waynes....

[Ronny Shade]

That line...."Lucius" that's all Alfred said, that had SO MUCH FRIKKIN SUBTEXT. It was beautiful.

[The Batman]

yeah. it was just the way they spoke to each other. you knew the two have history.

[Ronny Shade]

It sounds like I'm seriously pitching this idea now, but what if Lucius dies and they have a bunch of flashbacks about him and Alfred surrounding it.


That could be too much. More fit for a TV show episode...you know when a character has an important moment, they devote the whole episode to him/her.

[AnimeJune]

I could see them doing it for a Buffy movie, since Boreanaz and Marsters are getting a wee old.As are Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry. ;)

[Isildur´s Heir]

Looked a little like plastic, but still amazing.
Exactly, specially around the mouths.
But, that kind of technology will only get better with time :up:

[Ronny Shade]

As are Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry. ;)
Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry aren't playing ageless vampires.


If Bettany doesn't get joker I could see him playing a really young Alfred.

[Timstuff]

LOL, the opening scene from X3 was awesome, I was freaked out when I saw it. :D

Somehow, I get the feeling ILM is going to be making use of this technique in Indiana Jones 4... A lot. :o