Rottentomatoes start to believe :)

[LadyVader]

I don't have to imagine that. I have seen the movie. I know it's good. I know it will come through. :)

That's why i really don't care about rottentomatoes. But I guess you can't see things my way becase you have not seen the movie.

[ultimatefan]

But the question is, why? LadyVader is referring to the most important aspect of a movie is personal enjoyment of said movie. Critical and financial success is only important for lame fanboy wars and pissing contests. I mean, what happens if you hate the movie and it goes on to make billions worldwide? If you hate the movie, does the financial success really matter to you?
I don´t care if the makes "billions", but I care that it´s successful enough to get a sequel. Positive reviews help to indicate if the movie has good word-of-mouth, and it´s important for the success of the movie. Again, of course it´s not an exact science and the exact numbers are not all that important, but it has its relevance.

[moviespud]

It is darkest just before the Dawn! Superman Will rise!:) :up:

There are still reviews to be printed from the major newspapers(Los Angeles Times for example)

[MoreCowbell]

Dont think I have no wories about storylines, acting and etc. My openion is based on what I saw.

But imagine if movie, which you have been waited since 80s, will bomb and get only negative reviews, what then?

This movie will not have succes and there will be no sequels.Well, X3 got 56% rating and it's done well $ wise. I imagine SR will do the same, but will do better beyond opening weekend because of word of mouth/ It's actually a good movie.

The reviews aren't negative... 17-3 is in our favor.

Plus DVD sales are just as important.

[Cinemaman]

I don´t care if the makes "billions", but I care that it´s successful enough to get a sequel. Positive reviews help to indicate if the movie has good word-of-mouth, and it´s important for the success of the movie. Again, of course it´s not an exact science and the exact numbers are not all that important, but it has its relevance.

Thanx, you have just said what I was trying to say :) :up:

[ultimatefan]

There´s a lot of positive reviews that weren´t posted yet. I´m confident the movie will be 80%-plus fresh, which, frankly, is more than any tentpole movie of this summer has been so far...

[kal-el2006]

is there a way to submit reviews youve seen to RT?

[Iceman]

82% on Tomatoes so far from 17 reviews. Very impressive start.

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

Dvd sales is another market , foreign sales anotehr makert , Domestic Sales another market , Network Television and cable another market and video games another market and they all add up in about 10 years.

The only one the studio cares about is Domestic , thats the money they recoup and helps them to producer other movies and produce sequals.

If superman Returns wants a sequal with a bigger budget , then superman returns has to cross 400 million domesticly , i mean no studio would green light a 400 million dollar movie if the first one only garner 200 to 300 million.

[WorthyStevens]

Hmm... 88% positive on the Unofficial Tomatometer. 30 positive reviews and only 3 negative reviews.

Nice.

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

And the positives range from B and A not everyone is calling this thing a Great movie

Ign , moviehole and others say it has moments that are very lackluster and some of the casting choices they don't agree on. If a review has a 3 stars and up its positive anything under 3 stars is negative.

I have actually took the time to read every review there and everyone says the same this movie is a Tribute.

[explode7]

How much stars does SR have Movieman.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

If a review has a 3 stars and up its positive anything under 3 stars is negative.

Sorry, but WRRROOOONNNNGGGG!! There are middle grounds in movie reviews.

[Speedball]

OMG!
It's at 78%
That son of a B****!

[Chris M]

Very positive far. Looking good.

[NeoQuaker]

The 4th negative review, which dropped the rating to 78%, says that SR is worse than all 4 of the Christopher Reeve Supermans (INLUDING 3 & 4). WTF? I want to kill these idiots. I'm still waiting for a sane critic to give SR a bad review.

[Speedball]

except for the cream of the crop, non of the other critics matter.
And the cream of the crop is at 100%

[MoreCowbell]

Sorry, but WRRROOOONNNNGGGG!! There are middle grounds in movie reviews.I believe he was speaking to RT scoring system...

[Fatboy Roberts]

METACRITIC, people.

Much more reliable.

[Michael Corleone]

The 4th negative review, which dropped the rating to 78%, says that SR is worse than all 4 of the Christopher Reeve Supermans (INLUDING 3 & 4). WTF? I want to kill these idiots. I'm still waiting for a sane critic to give SR a bad review.
Yeah say what you will about the film but I really doubt it was worse than 3 and 4. I'm still thinking this is a love it or hate film with critics. Besides that critic said Mel Brooks history of the world part 1 was dull and vulgar. That's blasphemous in my book.

Look I'm fine with critics not liking this film. But why can't any of them give a decent reason why. It's all this sort of hate coming through. If there are critics out there that find flaws in the film I want to know. But this guy asks where the right mix of CAMP and high adventure are? Really? CAMP? Come on. He also complains that "the american way" is gone and claims hollywood is unpatriotic? Really? Are we gonna pull that card? Why do I get the feeling this was one of the guys that were questioning Superman's sexuality a few weeks ago? Ah well...Ya know what? I'm looking forward to one bad review. One that points out the flaws in this film. The one that is a clear and well thought out counter point to the very positive reviews. Untill then I guess I have to watch this crap come out.

[Calendar Man]

except for the cream of the crop, non of the other critics matter.
And the cream of the crop is at 100%

Right...I'm guessing you will change your tune if it falls on Cream of the Crop...which it will since we know Ebert didn't like it much.

[Cinemaman]

Hey, why RT doesn't put positive reviews? Only negative :mad:

78%? WTF?!?!? :down

[LadyVader]

So far the negative reviews really don't inspire much confidence. To say that Superman Returns is worse then Superman 3 or 4 is just wrong.

[Cinemaman]

But why they didn't put new positive reviews? :confused:

[echostation]

it's strange... there are so many more positive reviews yet RT aint putting them up

[tkenji69]

I hope that the Chuck Oleary review isnt true... because he actually complained about the way the movie was filmed, the different digital camera that Singer used. He said that the tone was to dark and everything felt underwhelmed... said it would of been more appropriate for Batman... and that was my only complaint about Batman... all the action as Batman seemed to dark... left me wanting more.

[Naite22]

^you just know that's bull****!! Dont listen to that crap.

[kal-el2006]

i dont get it...unoffical tomatometer has 30 positive..and 5 negative..only 14 of the positive has been posted..why?

[CapBeerCino]

except for the cream of the crop, non of the other critics matter.
And the cream of the crop is at 100%

What's the cream of the crop anyway? I never knew...

[ultimatefan]

What's the cream of the crop anyway? I never knew...
It´s the most respected reviewers from the most important newspapers and magazines.

The latest negative review sounds like a plant from another studio... Worse than Supes III and IV? Gimme a break... I know, entitled to his opinion, yadda yadda... But sometimes these people don´t even sound like they seen the movie... I wouldn´t exchange only that extended clip of SR for all of III and IV...

[Heretic]

After the previews I've seen, this movie could punch my mom in the face and Id still like it more than Superman IV. Theres no way that review is an unbiased view.

[Jlandsw]

What's the cream of the crop anyway? I never knew...

You have For the Birds as your avatar!?!? Thats so awesome!!!

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

well one thing is a sure Superman Returns won't be getting TWo thumbs , up aparently Ebert doesn't like it and his review is gonna be coming up today or tomorrow

[Heretic]

I thought that whole fake Ebert review had already been covered to death here???

[Mr. Credible]

After the previews I've seen, this movie could punch my mom in the face and Id still like it more than Superman IV. Theres no way that review is an unbiased view.

funniest thing i've read all day.

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

its funny if someone doesn't like it he is biased ? or maybe its the fact that everyone is use to a different kind of superman , A post crisis superman . There is a reason they killed pre crisis superman just recently cause everyone hated that superman.

Also a good trailer editor could make UWE BOLL films look like OSCAR worthy praise ,don't let trailers fool you.

[Heretic]

are you trying to imply that Uwe Boll films arent Oscar worthy???

[Speedball]

are you trying to imply that Uwe Boll films arent Oscar worthy???
They aren't even Razzie worthy.

[Heretic]

Now you are just talking crazy-talk! Uwe Boll deserves a lifetime achievement award at the Razzies!

[CoGro]

METACRITIC, people.

Much more reliable.
These reactions take me back to TFN...

[Jlandsw]

Now you are just talking crazy-talk! Uwe Boll deserves a lifetime achievement award at the Razzies!

I 2nd that!!

[ultimatefan]

It´s starting to pick up again... It´s okay guys, Batman Begins started with 67% before it reached 83%, if 78% is the lowest SR gets, it´s gonna get a high rate in the end.

[Cinemaman]

79%, it is still need to be higher :(

Why they dont put more positive reviews?

[nosebleed.]

The 4th negative review, which dropped the rating to 78%, says that SR is worse than all 4 of the Christopher Reeve Supermans (INLUDING 3 & 4). WTF? I want to kill these idiots. I'm still waiting for a sane critic to give SR a bad review.

There are enough predisposed-to-love-it, fantasy-loving fanboys out there to almost guarantee a good to great box-office gross for Superman Returns

What a jackass.

This guy praises all the camp that was in the original Superman movies. That's what he says he misses. He wants a vibrant bright Superman movie that is full of camp...he's asking for the old Batman TV series. He also says Singer sold out when he went from Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil to direct the X-men movies, calling X2 "a bad, albeit profitable, movie".

Yeah...that pretty much tells us that if we are getting the opposite of what this guy wants then the movie should be pretty good.

[ultimatefan]

79%, it is still need to be higher :(

Why they dont put more positive reviews?
It will be. Patience is a virtue, grasshopper...

[Speedball]

"This is everything it should be. And if it doesn't work for you, I can't imagine what would."

God i love that quote.

[The Incredible Hulk]

tis rather odd there are so few reviews of this film comparatively speaking with it dropping in a mere 2 days

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Hmmm

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/?critic=all

86%

:up:

Hope those reviews get added soon.

[ultimatefan]

Some of these are not official tomatometer reviews. They don´t get added.

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

some of those people haven't even watched the movie yet lolololol

one dude said " i think this will be great" lolol

and yea those don't get added to the offical list

[Michael Corleone]

What exactly is the requirement for a review to be included? Honestly it doesnt seem to include some very obvious high profile critics but then its also got people I've never heard of.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Wow, I dig the reviewer who actually reviewed Superman Returns and a documentary about Gitmo TOGETHER, and then used the latter to prove how bad the former was. What a moronic reviewer!

[Michael Corleone]

Wow, I dig the reviewer who actually reviewed Superman Returns and a documentary about Gitmo TOGETHER, and then used the latter to prove how bad the former was. What a moronic reviewer!Agreed. Like I've been saying...I dont care if there are bad reviews but at least make a good argument. At least that's something I'm looking forward to with Ebert. He may not like the film but at least he usually gives good reasons why or why not a film works.

[Ita-KalEl]

Actually, there are 4 very positive reviews written by legit critics not yet included.

[Cinemaman]

81% and 7out of 10, not bad, but still I want more.

[Excel]

berardinellis has not yet been added

[Matt]

why do people care so much about Rottentomatoes? Especially Cinemaman after saying how much critics suck following the negative script review.

[ProductionMusic]

why do people care so much about Rottentomatoes? Especially Cinemaman after saying how much critics suck following the negative script review.

Why do you care that People care :confused:

[Cinemaman]

why do people care so much about Rottentomatoes? Especially Cinemaman after saying how much critics suck following the negative script review.

Matt, I hope someday you will get your real mind.

I had a sig with "Critics Are Not Always Right With Their Predictions".

Also, I hated Moriarty for script draft review.

And I care about RT, critical success and box office of movies, which I am going to see. As I what can I see, SR has success criticaly, we should now wait for box office numbers.

[WorthyStevens]

Hmmm

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/?critic=all

86%

:up:

Hope those reviews get added soon.

It's at 87% now. :up:

[Cinemaman]

It's at 87% now. :up:

Are you right? http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/?critic=columns

[GarudA]

Are you right? http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/?critic=columns

I think he meant that this one is at 87%

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/?critic=all

[antariksh]

SR will neither get the 90%+ rating critics gave to spider-man and spider-man 2 nor will it get the same kind of boxoffice spider-man and spider-man 2 did.


But i for sure will watch it on july 1st.

[Pickle-El]

SR will neither get the 90%+ rating critics gave to spider-man and spider-man 2 nor will it get the same kind of boxoffice spider-man and spider-man 2 did.


But i for sure will watch it on july 1st.

Just....disappear. No one needs your homophobic personality around here....and it's only a matter of time before you act here as you have on the X3 forums.

[ultimatefan]

Officially, RT is at 81% now and an average 7 rating, not bad at all. I bet it will improve till tuesday.

[user123456789]

Officially, RT is at 81% now...
:( :( :(

[FreeRadical]

81% for SR ? :(

Devil wears Prada is at 89% ? :confused:

I love Anna Hathaway, but come on.....WTF?

[ultimatefan]

Like I said, guys, be patient, I trust it will get up some more.

[user123456789]

Like I said, guys, be patient, I trust it will get up some more.

yea.. no need to worry.

1 day folks, 1 day!

[Maze]

Like I said, guys, be patient, I trust it will get up some more.

Yup : 82 prct now :)

[CapBeerCino]

Yup : 82 prct now :)

Maze! where were you?

You have For the Birds as your avatar!?!? Thats so awesome!!!

:D I know! :p Lol thanx....

[Milkman95]

83%

[Angel Of Dark]

Yup : 82 prct now :)

nope 78%

[Superchan]

This is really annoying, the score keeps going up and down like that; is that normal?

[echostation]

it's at 80 percent now... this film won't even beat Batman Begins or let alone X-2 in terms of reviews sadly

[\S/JcDc\S/]

nope 78%

Why did you say nope? They only just now added the 2 negative reviews taking the score down. It was at 83% actually.

[Green Goblin 1964]

80%

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Yeah just hit 80. This thing has gone up and down 3 times in last 10 minutes

[DvilDog]

chill guys wait a week i bet it will be close to 90 if not above it a little. at least 89% is my best guesstimate

[Angel Of Dark]

Why did you say nope? They only just now added the 2 negative reviews taking the score down. It was at 83% actually.

BECAUSE when I wrotte it the score was 78

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It got a negative review because it doesn't have a pop pulse and has a long running time.

Huh

http://newyorkmetro.com/movies/reviews/17394/

Makes me want to see it even more :confused: :)

[dagobah]

It got a negative review because it doesn't have a pop pulse and has a long running time.

Awful. Just awful.

[GarudA]

Its now hit 79% and the Cream of the crop has hit 83%. This movie is geting alot negative reviews lately.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Check unofficial. A lot of good new reviews haven't been added

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Hmm a couple of the "negative reviews" appeared to be more positive than negative but ultimately got a rotten rating. That sucks.

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-et-superman27jun27,0,2078969.story?coll=cl-mreview

This one was not glowing but still not bad :confused:

[user123456789]

I hope its 80%+ by the end of all of this review crap.

[CConn]

Its now hit 79% and the Cream of the crop has hit 83%. This movie is geting alot negative reviews lately.Not really. BB only had 83% positive. And Sin City only got something like 78%.

As long as it doesn't drop below 70% or so, we're in for a pretty good movie.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

To me this positive fresh review seems more negative than the calendar live review

http://www.emanuellevy.com/article.php?articleID=2672

???

[echostation]

they need to add harry knowles review, cuz often time sthey do add his stuff... plus I don't see Latino Reviews on there which normally are plus some others

can anyone else point out solid reviews from pretty decent sources that haven't been put up yet?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

This person just thinks Superman is dumb, nobody can recognize Clark with the glasses is Superman.

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/060703crci_cinema

Yeah... Real smart :o

[\S/JcDc\S/]

they need to add harry knowles review, cuz often time sthey do add his stuff... plus I don't see Latino Reviews on there which normally are plus some others

can anyone else point out solid reviews from pretty decent sources that haven't been put up yet?

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/ny-etsuperman,0,3333568.story?coll=ny-homepage-mezz

[GarudA]

Its now at 78 and the cream of the crop is 77.

[CConn]

I have to say...this movie's getting some really idiotic negative reviews. I'm not just being a fanboy here - I mean, BB had some negative reviews that raised some pretty good points - but a lot of SR's negative reviews seem to be by people who don't like, and don't even understand the nature of Superman himself.

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I have to say...this movie's getting some really idiotic negative reviews. I'm not just being a fanboy here - I mean, BB had some negative reviews that raised some pretty good points - but a lot of SR's negative reviews seem to be by people who don't like, and don't even understand the nature of Superman himself.

Yeah, look at this quote for part of why she gave the movie a bad review

"Mind you, if Superman is such a paragon, how come he wants to save a species so universally dumb that not a single member of it recognizes him when he puts on a pair of glasses? http://www.newyorker.com/images/dingbat.gif"

That is an idiotic reason :rolleyes:

[\S/JcDc\S/]

From newsday review

"The ingenuity with which Singer's movie both reintroduces and extends the Superman saga is one of its many surprises. Another is that the relatively unknown Routh carries out his weighty legacy with such unassuming charm and grace. Bosworth's icy reserve may put you off at first, but (again surprisingly) she gradually finds her individual comfort zone. What's not in the least surprising is that Spacey takes hold of Luthor's persona as if he were genetically groomed to play the role."

[JBElliott]

Holey crap! I'm not a big fan of Singer and Routh vision, but I did figure the movie would sail along with 85% plus on the Tomato-meter!

[DvilDog]

I dont care about reviews. give it the money to make a sequel. its a d^^n hundred on my haddenmeter.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I have to say...this movie's getting some really idiotic negative reviews. I'm not just being a fanboy here - I mean, BB had some negative reviews that raised some pretty good points - but a lot of SR's negative reviews seem to be by people who don't like, and don't even understand the nature of Superman himself.

I agree with your well-said post. Seems people are basing their review around their own feelings for Superman himself, especially given the current cropping of superhero movies out there with their -- I guess you could say -- heavily flawed heroes. I understand that Superman is going to come across as maybe much less perceivably "relatable" in comparision to other superheroes because of his godlike powers, but that certainly doesn't mean you can't relate to him when you get down to his human-like emotions, flaws, and qualities.

They seem to be missing the point that despite all of Superman's powers, he still sometimes can't do the very thing we humans can do even without powers. As noted in the first movie:
"All those things I can do, all those powers..."

His powers sometimes are the cause of his feelings of guilt and continued feelings of alienation.

[Antonello Blueberry]

I have to say...this movie's getting some really idiotic negative reviews. I'm not just being a fanboy here - I mean, BB had some negative reviews that raised some pretty good points - but a lot of SR's negative reviews seem to be by people who don't like, and don't even understand the nature of Superman himself.
Should they to enjoy the movie? There's a whole world out there who thinks that superheroes are a childish fantasy and I do respect their opinion.

[phantom47]

its now at 76%

[SolidSnakeMGS]

OMG, a THIRD guy from New York doesn't like the film....hummmm....

[GarudA]

Its now at 76% and Cream of the crop is at 71%, its going down pretty fast.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Its now at 73% and Cream of the crop is at 71%, its going down pretty fast.

No it isn't....still 76/77.

[GarudA]

No it isn't....still 76/77.

It was 73 when I looked, but you are right it is 76 now and the cream of the crop is at 71 tho.

[RedIsNotBlue]

OMG, a THIRD guy from New York doesn't like the film....hummmm....

Yeah its crazy that more than two people from New York will not like the movie. :o

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Yeah its crazy that more than two people from New York will not like the movie. :o

No, it isn't crazy. Just odd that 3 seperate publications from New York would not like the film.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Why is it odd?

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Why isn't it odd?

[Michael Corleone]

Ya know it's kinda pointless watching this so closely. It's going to fluctuate for most of the week. It's going to go up and down constantly so everyone dont get too flustered just yet.

[Michael Corleone]

No, it isn't crazy. Just odd that 3 seperate publications from New York would not like the film.

Wonder if their opinions would have changed if the film was shot in NYC.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Why isn't it odd?

3 people saw the movie and just didn't love it. Where is the odd part? :confused:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

3 people saw the movie and just didn't love it. Where is the odd part? :confused:

You wouldn't happen to be related to explode7, now would you?:)

Anyway, I already explained about as simply as humanly possible why I thought it to be a little odd. And I still think it. The ONLY 3 reviewers from NY and they're all negative? I didn't say it was a conspiracy or a plot or anything, I just noted that it's weird.

[RedIsNotBlue]

And I said I don't see the weirdness.

[The Riddler]

Yeah, look at this quote for part of why she gave the movie a bad review

"Mind you, if Superman is such a paragon, how come he wants to save a species so universally dumb that not a single member of it recognizes him when he puts on a pair of glasses? http://www.newyorker.com/images/dingbat.gif"

That is an idiotic reason :rolleyes:
that wasn't a reason to why she gave it a bad review; that was simply a mocking rhetorical question.

[JBElliott]

Idiotic reviews? I don't think so. I read the reviews from the NY Times, the New Yorker and the guy who does reviews for Fresh Air and they seemed to have well reasoned and well written reviews that were far from idiotic.

It looks like you'll have to settle for a Tomato-meter in the mid 70's and a decent box office haul. Not bad at the end of the day. Not that I'm a big backer of the Singer/Routh product, but still it's going to do okay.

[kal-el2006]

Idiotic reviews? I don't think so. I read the reviews from the NY Times, the New Yorker and the guy who does reviews for Fresh Air and they seemed to have well reasoned and well written reviews that were far from idiotic.

It looks like you'll have to settle for a Tomato-meter in the mid 70's and a decent box office haul. Not bad at the end of the day. Not that I'm a big backer of the Singer/Routh product, but still it's going to do okay.

far from idiotic..well written?? are u serious? with a str8 face...:eek:

"Mind you, if Superman is such a paragon, how come he wants to save a species so universally dumb that not a single member of it recognizes him when he puts on a pair of glasses?" from the new yorker..which u say is well "written" these negative critics make me laugh..its like its there tryin to find small stuff to nitpick..with NO exact reasoning behind it

[The Riddler]

far from idiotic..well written?? are u serious? with a str8 face...:eek:

"Mind you, if Superman is such a paragon, how come he wants to save a species so universally dumb that not a single member of it recognizes him when he puts on a pair of glasses?" from the new yorker..which u say is well "written" these negative critics make me laugh..its like its there tryin to find small stuff to nitpick..with NO exact reasoning behind it
stop using that quote.

that isn't a reason as to why it was rated poorly.

[GarudA]

far from idiotic..well written?? are u serious? with a str8 face...:eek:

"Mind you, if Superman is such a paragon, how come he wants to save a species so universally dumb that not a single member of it recognizes him when he puts on a pair of glasses?" from the new yorker..which u say is well "written" these negative critics make me laugh..its like its there tryin to find small stuff to nitpick..with NO exact reasoning behind it

Hey are you not the person who also posts here? http://boxofficemojo.com/forums/viewtopic.htm?t=49251&start=5490&sid=df1a0b3178dd123b75ba43dc1267aaff

[kal-el2006]

naw..diffrent guy wit the same name big k..small k

[Spirit4ever]

While reading that boxofficemojo, I can't believe the astonomiacl record held by the Titanic (even though i hear that Gone With The Wind is still the biggest box office hit if you go by inflation) What was it thaty made so many people go see the Titanic. I seen it on dvd, and while it's ok, I just couldn't figure out the hype. Same with the Pirates of the Caribbean. It was a nice film, but nothing to go over board for, in my opinion.

[charl_huntress]

I can't believe that this RT thing matters so much? I had never heard of it before coming here, and I don't really understand it's importance now. Is it like some foolproof indicator of success? I really don't understand why everyone is focused on this, and I'm asking out of curiosity not to be cute or sarcastic.

[Jlandsw]

I can't believe that this RT thing matters so much? I had never heard of it before coming here, and I don't really understand it's importance now. Is it like some foolproof indicator of success? I really don't understand why everyone is focused on this, and I'm asking out of curiosity not to be cute or sarcastic.

It is all of the critics reviews for a movie combined into a final "grade" or "average". Usually pretty accurate too.

[charl_huntress]

It is all of the critics reviews for a movie combined into a final "grade" or "average". Usually pretty accurate too.

Pretty accurate in what? It seems that it would be accurate of the percentage of people who like it, not rather the movie is good. Someone explained what RT is a while ago, but I just don't get what's so important about it that it's watched this closely.

[Jlandsw]

While reading that boxofficemojo, I can't believe the astonomiacl record held by the Titanic (even though i hear that Gone With The Wind is still the biggest box office hit if you go by inflation) What was it thaty made so many people go see the Titanic. I seen it on dvd, and while it's ok, I just couldn't figure out the hype. Same with the Pirates of the Caribbean. It was a nice film, but nothing to go over board for, in my opinion.

I think the reason Titanic did so well is because it was a historic event, and alot of teachers probably wanted to take their students to see it as a class field trip. Imagine how many schools probably went to see that movie!

[charl_huntress]

What was the rating for Titantic because I hate that movie.

[CoGro]

I think the reason Titanic did so well is because it was a historic event, and alot of teachers probably wanted to take their students to see it as a class field trip. Imagine how many schools probably went to see that movie!
Or maybe it was because the demographic it appealed to was anywhere from 5-85, including the 12-25 year old women who saw the film 30 times because of Leonardo Dicaprio.

[Mike059jig]

79% and still hoping for 85% or a little higher for SR....Titanic was a great movie...I watch it up to when the iceberh hit..after that clion deon song really makes the movie too sad and unbarely to watch...

[charl_huntress]

79% and still hoping for 85% or a little higher for SR....Titanic was a great movie...I watch it up to when the iceberh hit..after that clion deon song really makes the movie too sad and unbarely to watch...

79% for Titanic...well than it looks like SR is still on the right track. I don't follow this, but I thought someone said earlier it was like at 70-something%. Titanic is still the highest grossing movie of all time, right? So, a seventy something rating doesn't sound bad.

As for Titanic the movie, I love romantic movies. I love romance novels, but that movie was so full of saccharine garbage I left with cavities and high blood pressure. I can't stand that movie, and the Dion song just added the marachino cherry that finally made me vomit. After I watched that movie I felt sick to my stomach:O

[Mike059jig]

Awww man It can't be that bad.....Its a good film but not one of my favorites...To tell you the truth I actually like the movie because I get to see the ship:D......I love the ship and when its splits in two and how each part sinks

[charl_huntress]

lol...not enough of an incentive for me to like the movie.

[charl_huntress]

double post

[user123456789]

It was 73 when I looked, but you are right it is 76 now and the cream of the crop is at 71 tho.

what does cream of the crop mean?

[Speedball]

Awww man It can't be that bad.....Its a good film but not one of my favorites...To tell you the truth I actually like the movie because I get to see the ship:D......I love the ship and when its splits in two and how each part sinks

LOL, when my mom got the tapes, I only watched the second one. I liked watching the ship sink, and your right, it really isn't THAT bad.

[Mike059jig]

The Major Reveiws..I guess

[CConn]

Should they to enjoy the movie? There's a whole world out there who thinks that superheroes are a childish fantasy and I do respect their opinion.They should at least be open to whichever interpretation is presented in the film. They should also judge a film on it's own merits rather than their own personal feelings of a character.

[skruloos]

Pretty accurate in what? It seems that it would be accurate of the percentage of people who like it, not rather the movie is good.
Good is a completely subjective term. What RT does not do is tell you if you'll like a movie. What it will tell you is how many people it resonated with and how a consensus of people rate it. If 80% of people rate the movie highly, chances are it has something to do with quality. The chances of 80% of people simply having the same preferences is pretty slim.

The fact that RT usually has a lot of reviewers is important. The larger the user base polled, the greater range of interests and a better reflection of general society.

[user123456789]

The Major Reveiws..I guess
was that a response to my question?

cream of crop = major reviews?

[Maze]

nope 78%


It was at 82.

[charl_huntress]

Good is a completely subjective term. What RT does not do is tell you if you'll like a movie. What it will tell you is how many people it resonated with and how a consensus of people rate it. If 80% of people rate the movie highly, chances are it has something to do with quality. The chances of 80% of people simply having the same preferences is pretty slim.

The fact that RT usually has a lot of reviewers is important. The larger the user base polled, the greater range of interests and a better reflection of general society.

I understand what you are saying, and you actually said what I was trying to say...just better:)

That's really all I think RT is...a general consensus of people's likes and dislikes. I mean, that is all a review is...someone's opinion of what they like and don't like.

A 70% rating sounds good to me, but what do I know:)

[hpwiz89]

It's at 78% right now I hope it goes highr later with more positive reviews.

[Tony Stark]

Looks like the bad reviews are starting to pour in. I'm usually leery of early reviews because they're usually written by studio shills, to generate buzz.

I noticed the Cream of the crop reviews are only 71% and it doesn't even include Ebert's review who gave it only 2 stars.

[Cinemaman]

I cant understand what is happening with SR :mad:

Now it has f***ing 78%, why they dont odd new positive reviews? :down

Even cream of the top has only damn crappy 72% :mad:

I still hope for 85% :(

[kal-el2006]

either way...there is more positive reviews than negative

official: 39 positive 11 negative 78%
unofficial: 56 positive 12 negative 83%
cream of crop: 13 positive 4 negative

i'd say its alot more positive outweighin the negative...

[Tony Stark]

Don't ever believe early reviews from any critic. They are usually paid positive reviews by the studio. The bad reviews are coming in now, which tells you this film is not all it's cracked up to be.

Having read the novelization, the reviews seem to match what I thought about the plot.

I'll probably enjoy it. Heck I enjoyed Fantastic Four, so I'm sure I'll enjoy this, but I think it's expecting too much at this point for this to be up there with Batman Begins or Spider-man 2.

[Cinemaman]

Don't ever believe early reviews from any critic. They are usually paid positive reviews by the studio. The bad reviews are coming in now, which tells you this film is not all it's cracked up to be.

Having read the novelization, the reviews seem to match what I thought about the plot.

I'll probably enjoy it. Heck I enjoyed Fantastic Four, so I'm sure I'll enjoy this, but I think it's expecting too much at this point for this to be up there with Batman Begins or Spider-man 2.

What? :confused:

Are you kidding? All those negative reviews were using stupid aspects like poor cast and etc.

While AICN, Variety, Time Magazine, Hollywood Reporter, Newsweek and others loved it.

[skruloos]

Don't ever believe early reviews from any critic. They are usually paid positive reviews by the studio. The bad reviews are coming in now, which tells you this film is not all it's cracked up to be.
You do realize that 3 bad reviews surfaced around the same time as the early positive ones. And also that along with the negative reviews, positive ones have also been rolling in.

And of course negative reviews are coming in. No movie is perfect. I would have been surprised if the film never got bad reviews.

[echostation]

Ebert just killed this film's chances of really going high with the critics

**** this won't even Beat X-men or X-men 2 let alone Batman Begins... this is pretty damn disappointing, it's like Singer took a step backwards critically

[kal-el2006]

lol u get all that because of one review..yet there are more positives than negative reviews.. really going high wit the critics? there is more positive reviews..for every negative review there is 5 more positive ones..ahh one more day..cant wait

[user123456789]

ugh 12 rotten

[Cinemaman]

Damn, only 76%, worser than I thought :down

[RedIsNotBlue]

Chill out. That percentage is going to be changing alot this week.

[ultimatefan]

Yeah, it´s still 35 reviews, theres time to change. Must be noted that no tentpole blockbuster movies this summer so far have been above 80%.

[Milkman95]

^That's true...........

[Cinemaman]

77% now.

[Milkman95]

Hopefully it ends up around BB's percentage, but if it doesn't, oh well. Like Ultimate said, it's still higher than X3 and Da Vinci Code, which did well despite X3's record breaking second weekend drop.

Just go enjoy the film

[Naite22]

Every one are saying that the pacing is off in the begining of the film, and that's a bit sad! Already there I just KNOW that it's because they rush Clark waaay to fast to Metropolis... Because they've cut a lot of the Farm scenes out... WHY, OH WHY??? It's not good. They say that everything happens too fast?? I dont know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but the way reviewers has described it, it's definitly bad. thoughts?

[RedIsNotBlue]

They had to cut some things the movie is already at an ass numbing length. Hopefully we will get an extended version on dvd.

[Naite22]

They had to cut some things the movie is already at an ass numbing length. Hopefully we will get an extended version on dvd.
There wont be an extended version, acording to Singer. People are saying, dont worry, the deleted scenes will be on the dvd. Ok, first off, you dont know that for sure. Secondly, that's just not good enough! I wanted my first experience in theater to have been the best possible, and I was looking so forwards to those farm scenes.
Of course they have to cut some things, but OBVIOUSLY the kent farm scenes were IMPORTENED, and that shows, seeing how people are saying that everything happens way to fast in the begining. The deleted scenes from the kent farm is a direct result of that, why do people try to get around this??? Yes, the movie is long, but still the pacing is off in the begining, and it didn't have to be that way.

[RedIsNotBlue]

Lol I am not "trying to get around" ****. I am just telling you that some things were probably cut to keep the length down.

[Naite22]

Lol I am not "trying to get around" ****. I am just telling you that some things were probably cut to keep the length down.
Well, if that ruined a more beautiful pacing begining, then they shouldn't have cut it out..

[Tony Stark]

What? :confused:

Are you kidding? All those negative reviews were using stupid aspects like poor cast and etc.

While AICN, Variety, Time Magazine, Hollywood Reporter, Newsweek and others loved it.

Well first off, I discredit just about any review from Harry Knowles. AICN has some good production reports from their site, and inside scoops but their reviews are just idiotic. Most of the "reviews" look like a 3rd grader wrote them.

Second of all, I'm not talking about the cream of the crop reviews (which are only about 70% BTW), I'm talking about the early positive reviews from people you've never heard of. They are just shills for the studio and are often paid to give positive reviews by the studio.

[Cinemaman]

Well first off, I discredit just about any review from Harry Knowles. AICN has some good production reports from their site, and inside scoops but their reviews are just idiotic. Most of the "reviews" look like a 3rd grader wrote them.

Second of all, I'm not talking about the cream of the crop reviews (which are only about 70% BTW), I'm talking about the early positive reviews from people you've never heard of. They are just shills for the studio and are often paid to give positive reviews by the studio.

Hey, I know who you are. You are one of these Marvel fanboys who do come every day and bash SR, because it is better movie than X3 and will make higher numbers :mad:

There also were negative reviews, and they came with positive. You should realize that it is real, that most of critics loved or liked it.

[Pickle-El]

Hey, I know who you are. You are one of these Marvel fanboys who do come every day and bash SR, because it is better movie than X3 and will make higher numbers :mad:

There also were negative reviews, and they came with positive. You should realize that it is real, that most of critics loved or liked it.


Stop being so defensive about EVERYTHING Superman Returns.....Geez. Chill out, Man.

[bingy13]

Chuck O'Leary's review is probably one of the most extreme of any of the reviews out there so far. I'm sorry... but there isn't any way that this will be worse than Superman IV. Only about 10 movies all time are worse than Superman IV.

http://www.fulvuedrive-in.com/review/3931/Superman%20Returns%20(Theatrical%20Film%20Review)

[bingy13]

Double post ooopps...

[kytrigger]

Chuck O'Leary's review is probably one of the most extreme of any of the reviews out there so far. I'm sorry... but there isn't any way that this will be worse than Superman IV. Only about 10 movies all time are worse than Superman IV.

http://www.fulvuedrive-in.com/review/3931/Superman%20Returns%20(Theatrical%20Film%20Review)

Oh well. Every single big movie will have at least one review that doesn't just dislike the film, but HATES it. It's inevitable. Just hope you got this out of the way, and no more come out.

[DV8]

The last time I looked, it was at an 82% . . . a better percentage than Fight Club, which is one of my faves of all time . . . .

[skruloos]

Well, if that ruined a more beautiful pacing begining, then they shouldn't have cut it out..
Or what if the pacing WAS off with the scenes in there? What if it dragged in the first half of the movie? It's not like the WB did a Fox on Singer and said he HAD to cut parts of the movie out. He has final cut so him excising that stuff was solely because it was for the benefit of the pace of the film. It happens.

[Tony Stark]

Hey, I know who you are. You are one of these Marvel fanboys who do come every day and bash SR, because it is better movie than X3 and will make higher numbers :mad:

There also were negative reviews, and they came with positive. You should realize that it is real, that most of critics loved or liked it.

Dude, you need to get a clue. Go do a search on my username and look at the stuff I wrote about X3.

X3 sucked big time. They totally screwed that one up. Worst Marvel adaptation IMO.

I don't give a crap about higher numbers. X3 made more money than Batman Begins, but everyone knows which was the better of those two films.

Also FYI, the first two Superman films, happen to be among my favorites.

[Excel]

cinemaman is so much like i was lats year with batman;hes even obbsessed with box office too :p

[Heretic]

I'm as excited about this movie as I ever have been for a film...

The ONLY things that could ever top this in my Geekometer is a well made, non cheesy GI Joe film, or Madman...neither of which is ever likely to occur.

[hpwiz89]

78% that sucks I thought it would be highr I guess some people really hate Superman.

[phantom47]

^I dont think they hated i think they just felt the same way I did, there were some moments that should have been great but felt underwhelmed and some acting could have been better

[ultimatefan]

The current average rate is 7,3, that´s not bad, it´s a little below Batman Begins, I believe.

[WorthyStevens]

Superman has a Certified Fresh seal now. :D

And also, the fresh rating percentile right now is right on par with Sin City's. :up:

[FCEEVIPER]

It won't have a better final rating than Begins, but SR should end up with a good rating.

Around 68-73% IMO.

[Mike059jig]

It should finish at 80% or a little higher...thats pretty good..two of the biggest newspapers in NYC gave it 4 stars and 3 1/2 stars out of four and its all over the front page

[Ita-KalEl]

Yes it's good :)

[kal-el2006]

Certified Fresh: 80 positive reviews...and 22 negatives...outweighin the bad
im there tomorrow! cant wait.

[Spare-Flair]

79% is too fresh for it IMHO.

[Sevb30]

I recall Revenge of the Sith finished with 82 percent good reviews.

[Cinemaman]

79%, damn.

[Jlandsw]

It should finish at 80% or a little higher...thats pretty good..two of the biggest newspapers in NYC gave it 4 stars and 3 1/2 stars out of four and its all over the front page

Newsday gave it 4 stars!!!! :supes:

And it's at 76% now. WTF, I haven't even seen it yet and I'm sure it deserves an 85% or above!!!!!!

[GarudA]

I think it is slowly sinkin, I think it will end in the 70-80%.

[Spare-Flair]

Even the devil wears prada has 84%!

[FCEEVIPER]

Cream of the crop at 73%...

[FCEEVIPER]

Even the devil wears prada has 84%!
Can you blame them, Anne Hathaway is hot! :D

[Spare-Flair]

Can you blame them, Anne Hathaway is hot! :D

Cast her as Lois Lane! Quick! Black hair! No giant forehead! Ambitious and spunky! Hot! :) :) :) :) :) :)

[Cinemaman]

76%, still low to me :(

I hope at the end of this week it will get 80%.

[ultimatefan]

I´m a bit disappointed the score didn´t reach 80% and that it got bad reviews from Ebert and NYT, but that score is relative anyway, the average rate is more accurate and it says 7,2, which ain´t bad at all. It has a certified Fresh, which is pretty good. The most important is, people seem to be responding positively to the movie. Fans are enjoying it, the audience is enjoying it. That´s what matters.

[GarudA]

76%, still low to me :(

I hope at the end of this week it will get 80%.

Yes it is low, compared to BB and the Spiderman movies.

[Tony Stark]

Yes it is low, compared to BB and the Spiderman movies.

IMO, it's not as good. It's ok but not great. If Superman 1, Spider-man 2 and Batman Begins are the gold standard, this movie is probably ranked with Daredevil.

[imdaly]

...the average rate is more accurate and it says 7,2, which ain´t bad at all...

7.2/10 = 72%, which is lower than the Fresh-o-Meter's 76%, actually...

[ultimatefan]

7.2/10 = 72%, which is lower than the Fresh-o-Meter's 76%, actually...
But that´s how usually goes, often the rate is actually MUCH lower than the fresh-o-meter.

[Stupidnewb]

7.2/10 = 72%, which is lower than the Fresh-o-Meter's 76%, actually...

Those two numbers aren't even the same thing. It's the average "rating" of a film. The tomatometer % is the % of how many people "liked" it. If a reviewer gives a film a 6/10 or higher, then it means they liked it and it counts as "fresh" on the tomatometer. They then get the % by dividing the total number of fresh reviews by the number of total reviews. 100 reviewers could give a movie a 6/10 and it would still get 100% on the tomatometer.

The average rating combined with the tomatometer can tell you a lot about a movie. Revenge of the Sith has 82% and Batman Begins has 83% yet Sith has an average rating of 7.3 while Batman Begins has a 7.7. More people reviewed Batman Begins as a better film and with less bias (which should have been expected). Revenge of the Sith had plenty of reviews around the 6/10 rating but the reviewers gave it that extra push into 6+ territory just because it's Star Wars and the last film.

[kal-el2006]

111 positive..35 negative..i'd say thats pretty damn good.

[explode7]

Thanks stupid I didn't know that:up:

[Weadazoid]

Just talked to 3 people who saw the 10 Pm's.... They siad the movie is very slow and they were not impressed.


Sad

[terry78]

Currently at 76% now.

[user123456789]

76%... ok nice... I'm hoping for 80%+.

[imdaly]

Those two numbers aren't even the same thing. It's the average "rating" of a film. The tomatometer % is the % of how many people "liked" it. If a reviewer gives a film a 6/10 or higher, then it means they liked it and it counts as "fresh" on the tomatometer. They then get the % by dividing the total number of fresh reviews by the number of total reviews. 100 reviewers could give a movie a 6/10 and it would still get 100% on the tomatometer.

The average rating combined with the tomatometer can tell you a lot about a movie. Revenge of the Sith has 82% and Batman Begins has 83% yet Sith has an average rating of 7.3 while Batman Begins has a 7.7. More people reviewed Batman Begins as a better film and with less bias (which should have been expected). Revenge of the Sith had plenty of reviews around the 6/10 rating but the reviewers gave it that extra push into 6+ territory just because it's Star Wars and the last film.

Exactly. That's what I was meaning. I was just saying that I think a higher score on the Average Rating would mean more than the Tomatometer rating. So pointing out that the Average rating is lower than the Tomatometer (which is dropping), isn't such a great thing to point out.

[Spare-Flair]

Exactly. That's what I was meaning. I was just saying that I think a higher score on the Average Rating would mean more than the Tomatometer rating. So pointing out that the Average rating is lower than the Tomatometer (which is dropping), isn't such a great thing to point out.

So we avoid the truth? It's only not a good thing to point out if you believe the film deserves better and should look better to others but many of us don't think it deserves such high accolades.

[imdaly]

So we avoid the truth? It's only not a good thing to point out if you believe the film deserves better and should look better to others but many of us don't think it deserves such high accolades.

Nononono. You misunderstand me. I'm one who doesn't see anything special about the Supes movie either. The person who I originally was talking to was saying he was disappointed that it wasn't any higher, but then referred to the (lower) Average Rating and said that that "wasn't bad at all". My first comment was just stating that, if you're trying to make yourself feel better about a score, pointing out the lower score (which is more accurate) isn't helping the cause.


...that clear enough? :) We're on the same side, dude.

[kal-el2006]

127 positive 40 negatives in critics tomatoe..this is crazy. users at 88 %

[Spare-Flair]

Nononono. You misunderstand me. I'm one who doesn't see anything special about the Supes movie either. The person who I originally was talking to was saying he was disappointed that it wasn't any higher, but then referred to the (lower) Average Rating and said that that "wasn't bad at all". My first comment was just stating that, if you're trying to make yourself feel better about a score, pointing out the lower score (which is more accurate) isn't helping the cause.


...that clear enough? :) We're on the same side, dude.

nice :) high-five. :)

[The Riddler]

not 80%?

i'm surprised.

[explode7]

How much did spiderman 1 or 2 had at tomato meter???

[Sevb30]

Spider-Man 1 final tomato meter, 89 percent
Spider-Man 2 final tomato meter, 93 percent

Revenge of the Sith final tomato meter 83 percent

[explode7]

No I mean the positives vs the negatives.

[Sevb30]

Still, getting 75 some percent of people to like anything is NO easy task. I honestly don't think it would do any better, as some people have a lot of baggage and heart for the Reeve films, that nothing new could ever match.

[imdaly]

Spider-Man 1
178 Positive
21 Negative
89% Fresh
7.6/10 Average Rating

Spider-Man 2
206 Positive
16 Negative
93% Fresh
8.2/10 Average Rating



Superman Returns (So far)
128 Positive
40 Negative
76% Fresh
7.2/10 Average Rating

[Sevb30]

Spider-Man 178 FRESH, 21 ROTTEN
Spider-Man 2 206 FRESH, 16 ROTTEN
Revenge of the Sith 191 FRESH, 43 ROTTEN

SUPERMAN RETURNS 128 FRESH, 40 ROTTEN (currently)


SR currently has more than 3 good reviews for every one bad review, so don't feel bad.

Not that it matters, critics don't dictate what I like.

[The Riddler]

damn, spider-man 2 was such a well reviewed film.

[explode7]

WOW. Just WOW. Spiderman had far less negatives than superman.

[Sevb30]

Spider-Man didn't have a popular set of live-action films in the past that people loved either. I assure you, 20 or so years in the future people will long for the Toby Maguire days of Spider-Man just as many long for the Chris Reeve days of Superman.

[imdaly]

Also, according to Rottentomatoes.com:

Superman: The Movie
37 Positive
2 Negative
95% Fresh
8.1/10 Average Rating


Superman II
23 Positive
5 Negative
82% Fresh
7.3/10 Average Rating


Superman III
8 Positive
27 Negative
23% Fresh
4.2/10 Average Rating


Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
2 Positive
21 Negative
9% Fresh
2.9/10 Average Rating


Now, granted there weren't as many reviews for these films, so the numbers won't be as accurate, but still gives a pretty good look at how the original movies fared.

[Sevb30]

There are a lot more reviewers these days than in the 70s and early 80s.

[Mr. Credible]

superman IV the quest for peace got 2 good reviews?!?


wow. nostalgia goes a long way.

[The Caped Knight]

Spider-Man 178 FRESH, 21 ROTTEN

Spider-Man 2 206 FRESH, 16 ROTTEN

SUPERMAN RETURNS 128 FRESH, 40 ROTTEN (currently)



BATMAN BEGINS 192 FRESH, 38 ROTTEN

[Mike059jig]

The user Review are pretty High though!!!!89%:)

[Big Lob]

Yuck. I don't think Spiderman 1 deserved such a high rating. Green Goblin trying to force Spiderman to join him. Just a strange plot. Oh well.

[Robin91939]

HARRY KNOWLES' review was great. Very positive, I hadn't read it until now...I think it's two weeks old...but better than Moriarity's.

-R

[Merkel]

It's beyond me why Spiderman was as well reviewed as it was.

[FCEEVIPER]

Now at 75% and COTC at 72%.

[kal-el2006]

critics 76 % 136 positive 46 negative..users at 88%
interesting..considerin people sayin its a "flop" which it isnt

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It's too soon to make such a call. Evil fanboys are mean. lol.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[kal-el2006]

hmm they added one each

[FCEEVIPER]

COTC at 73% now. :)

[antariksh]

critics 76 % 136 positive 46 negative..users at 88%
interesting..considerin people sayin its a "flop" which it isnt

FLOP at boxoffice NOT reviews.

[BMM]

COTC at 73% now. :)

If that's supposed to be POTC: Dead Man's Chest . . . I just checked and it was at a 58% critic rating and a 72% user rating.

[FCEEVIPER]

If that's supposed to be POTC: Dead Man's Chest . . . I just checked and it was at a 58% critic rating and a 72% user rating.
No, I was talking about Superman Return's "Cream Of the Crop" ratings. It went up one point. :)

My bad. :D

[FCEEVIPER]

FLOP at boxoffice NOT reviews.
Only time will tell if its a flop, damn the movie has like 5 more months to go until its completely out of theaters.

[Dark Knight]

FLOP at boxoffice NOT reviews.


It'll make it's money....just because it didn't explode the first weekend....doesn't mean it's a flop at BO.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Wow, a 53% cream of the crop rating for POTC2, while Superman remains at a pretty good 75%.

[FCEEVIPER]

Wow, a 53% cream of the crop rating for POTC2, while Superman remains at a pretty good 75%.
...Went up a point, now at 76%. :up:

Cream Of The Crop' holding steady at 73%. :up:

Users' rating at 83%. Another: :up: :D

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/

[casketmouth]

...Went up a point, now at 76%. :up:

Cream Of The Crop' holding steady at 73%. :up:

Users' rating at 83%. Another: :up: :D

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_returns/

It will NEVER do better than Batman Begins when people start watching it again to find nothing but a void created in their minds.

The movie is very boring. I mean boring. no one wanted to sit through that again.

[GreenKToo]

76% and 82% now.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Wow, a 53% cream of the crop rating for POTC2, while Superman remains at a pretty good 75%.Critics don't pay the bills, movie goers do.

[Eteric]

It will NEVER do better than Batman Begins when people start watching it again to find nothing but a void created in their minds.

The movie is very boring. I mean boring. no one wanted to sit through that again.

I haven't been able to watch Batman Begins more than 3 times.

Superman Returns > Batman Begins IMO.

[Octoberist]

Batman Begins > Superman Returns

IMO :)

[casketmouth]

I haven't been able to watch Batman Begins more than 3 times.

Superman Returns > Batman Begins IMO.

LOL...doesn't matter what you think...the world has chosen. Superman is for kids, batman is more mature and that's why it got two thumbs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up!!!!!!!!!

[Cinemaman]

Looks like critics liked it :up:

[SolidSnakeMGS]

LOL...doesn't matter what you think...the world has chosen. Superman is for kids, batman is more mature and that's why it got two thumbs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up!!!!!!!!!

LOL, I didn't get the memo from The World stating it's decision. I hate being left out...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Congrats, you get a three rolley-eyes rating!

[FCEEVIPER]

Critics don't pay the bills, movie goers do.
But its always nice to get that nod from the critics. :)

[Galactical]

critics don't matter unless they give a film a good rating.

[FCEEVIPER]

critics don't matter unless they give a film a good rating.
It does to I.

[Sardaukar]

I'm actually surprised this film managed to get even 76%.

[casketmouth]

I'm actually surprised this film managed to get even 76%.

so am I...REALLY surprised.

[Mike059jig]

It deserved the reviews it got It was no surprise....what suprise me is thats it so low..I mean It started off real high when the first reviews came in..then slowly declined..

[CapBeerCino]

Wow, a 53% cream of the crop rating for POTC2.

Way too much if you ask me...