Can a Magneto movie hold it's own?

[ComicKoryn]

After looking through a few of these threads, I'm starting to worry if Magneto's tale is worth it. The problem stems from the actors who have played Magneto and Xavier, they are simply the best at what they do. It is nearly impossible to find any young actor today with that level of talent.

The second problem stems from searching for actors that look like young versions of Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart. Sure, it's easy to have flashbacks in the X-men movies where the young look-alikes only have a few minutes of screentime, but we're talking actors that will have to support the whole movie.

These two things coupled with a story that essentially documents a past not that many people were curious about to begin with (we're talking the mass populace, not comic book fans), will this movie be able to hold it's own?

[Avalanche]

I think the movie is capable of holding it's own. Magneto's story from past to present has a lot to cover however, and that's worries me. How will the handle a story that will focus on such a breadth of time.

[ZachToTheFuture]

i personally believe it is a waste of time and money to make a magneto movie

[X-Gal123]

While I would rather have an X4 I do believe that Magneto's movie can hold its own because there are many levels to Magneto. There were many roads that Magneto took to get to where he is today, like being in the concentration camp, working with Xavier and eventually adopting the policy that humans and mutants can never live peacefully together and becoming the villian we all know. So yes I do believe that this movie can hold its own.

[aidol]

no way...even though a very famous actor plays him there wouldn't be enough action in the movie....no one came to see x-men 3 to see magneto....they wanted to see wolverine and the phoenix saga play out.

[tgfy]

I don't think that a Magneto movie could hold it's own. I don't think the storyline has enough to offer to make a full length movie.

[chaseter]

Uh, obviously a Magneto movie can hold its own or they wouldn't be making it.

[aidol]

doesn't mean it will do good....look at Phat Girls....that movie sucked but they still made it!

[cardslinger]

There are more to movies than just action. This should be a drama with some action. If you knew more about the history of Magneto, you would know how awsome a movie about it could be.

[aidol]

yeah...but only the truly comic book people would come to see...normal people wouldn't want to watch a person's autobiography.

[Angamb]

I think this film will be great, and I want to see it more than the Logan one, that's for sure.

And if McKellen is in it, part of the audience will go to see it too, Be sure.

[Ratcrawler]

Hell yeah. We've already seen 3 goddamn Wolverine movies. I'd MUCH rather see this Magneto prequel. With all the superhero movies out there, a movie focusing on the evolution of one of cinema's greatest villains would be a breath of fresh air. Plus, it'd sPan the timeline from when mutants were just an urban legend to when they went public. We'd see how someone of extraordinary power loses faith in humanity. Plus I'd love to see Magda and the twins, young Xavier and Mystique.

Anybody who sez there's no story here is imaginatively impaired.

[WANNA_BE_MIGHTY]

Magneto most definately can hold his own movie. Not only that, but i think it should turn out better than Wolverine's movie if the writers know what they're doing. (sometimes i with they would just stick us experts in a room, and see if we can make a great super hero move.) Anyway, i think they should focus on his childhood first, replay the bit where he goes off to the holocaust, show how he developed his powers, incorperate all of his family in order, and most impartantly, they should have several monologues showing the drastic changes in in his philisophical viewpoint. if they do all of that, the only thing left will be to add some action, and find good actors for him and professor x.
I WISH THEY WOULD LET US MAKE THE SCRIPT. I THINK US NERDS COULD DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cardslinger]

yeah...but only the truly comic book people would come to see...normal people wouldn't want to watch a person's autobiography.
I don't think this is true. Most movies tell a story of someone's life. This would just be the story of Magneto. A character who has become well known by anyone who has seen the X-Men movies. Magneto is one of the greatest villains of all time. I think people would be intorested to see how he got the way he is. I know I am. This movie has the potential to be the best of the spin-offs. If done right, it should surpass the Wolverine movie. If not in box office take, then in critic acclaim.
IMHO

[chaseter]

doesn't mean it will do good....look at Phat Girls....that movie sucked but they still made it!
Monique was rockin it in Phat Girlz. That said I never watched it because:
a] my lunch was good and I didn't want to loose it.
b] I thoroughly enjoy my eyes and didn't want them to melt from my skull.

[whitecrawler-->]

it'd be awesome to have a magneto spinoff-more of the baddies i say an i think people who aren't comic bookers would come to find out more about why he is the way he is, include bits about Quicksilver an Scarlet witch in the adverts an i think even more people would come

[Sun_Down]

Of course a Magneto movie can hold its own, he's a great and dynamic character. I'm looking forward to this movie much more than the other spin-offs.

[logansoldcigar]

i think its certainly a risk on Fox's part, but for once it could be a risk that pays off. I think that magneto is something that would work better on a lower budget, as it should be about his story, and not so much about displays of the *ack* "mutant master of magnetism making merry mayhem".

[_BB_]

I see the Magneto as being a more drama, character driven film instead of an action flick, i doubt we'll see much action anyway apart from his childhood in the war and then a few scenes where he is using and developing his powers against humans, who hunt down mutants as more are being born so the fear and intolerance grows towards them. Yep, definately more drama than action which i dont have a problem with :up:

[batnkevlar]

Yeah, they need more emphasis on the story... I mean, make it like Schindler's List (just an example) or something... make it something people will talk about... make it multilayered, and full of philosophy... it can be made into an award winning movie if done right...

I mean, Magneto IS like Malcom X... they could kinda work offa that...

[GoblinScrier]

I would love to see Magneto as a film...especially if it did well, then it would give Fox a chance to make a movie based on comicdom's all-time greatest villain, Dr. Doom. Can you imagine a whole movie of Doom, Latveria, Doombots, etc. and of course whatever happens in the film to be the "driving plot."

[Duneboy]

Hell yeah! A Magneto film would be so it! Dr. Doom would be cool too I guess. How about Kang?

[_BB_]

Yeah, they need more emphasis on the story... I mean, make it like Schindler's List (just an example) or something... make it something people will talk about... make it multilayered, and full of philosophy... it can be made into an award winning movie if done right...

I mean, Magneto IS like Malcom X... they could kinda work offa that...


Thats the exact route id like them to go down :up:

[CrypticOne]

I think a Magneto film could hold its own. I mean come on, there is so much material with this guy. And also a good power to work with, I mean if I had a mutant power, I would Magneto's, its the best.

[Farren]

I say yes,

but I think it will need some TLC to be done right.

[daredevillogan]

I don't see MacKellan doing this film. I don't see it doing any kind of box office. Wouldn't they need "good guys" to battle him at some point? I also think the Jackman/Wolverine movie will gross maybe a little more than the Daredevil/Elektra movies but nowhere near Spider-Man or the XMen films.

[Vile]

I dont see how this movie could work.

What exactly is he supposed to do the entire film?

[By your Command]

I think it would definitely work, origin stories are always great (It worked for Superman, Spider-man) why not one of the coolest supervillains?, besides it's one of the closets chances we'll get to see more blue naked Rebbeca Romjim (If they choose to show how they met, which will just boost me to super-geek mode and make me come to this site everyday until the movie comes out).

[Sun_Down]

I dont see how this movie could work.

What exactly is he supposed to do the entire film?

Go from a child in a Auschwitz (sp?) to the greatest mutant supervillain in history? That seems like a fairly compelling story to me.

[cardslinger]

Go from a child in a Auschwitz (sp?) to the greatest mutant supervillain in history? That seems like a fairly compelling story to me.
Agreed:up: :up: :up:

[Image]

That's true, but I'm a little unsure. Then again, it's all in how the movie is done and who is doing it. I'm positive it can hold its own, if it is in the right hands.

[Fanticon]

No...this will ruin the X-men franchise....it is a waste of time and money that could be better applied to an X4. On a side note as a fan...I wouldn't mind getting a Magneto movie...I'd see it...but I still think its a mistake on behalf of the studio and those pushing for it to be made.

[Infinity9999x]

Can a Magneto movie hold it's own? Well really, I think it would be very, very tough. If it does do well, it's going to be in DVD sales. Heck, look at Batman Begins, that did fair, and it was Batman! He's very much more known then Magneto, and much more popular. Also, if Ian McKellen is not in it it's going to hurt it even more. Honestly, even though people hate to admit it, one of the big reasons X-men movies do so well is because of Wolverine. He's the most popular x-men character. I don't think there's a big box office for a movie about Magneto. I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't really see it.

[dutchmarvel]

I also vote for No,but tht is because i don´t know it also.

The problem that i have with it that some chacters in the X-men movie´s don´t get enough screentime. Of course there can making a Magneto movie,but the movie must have a conection with the earlyer X-men movie´s. If there yused some of them in this movie and some of them in the wolvarine movie,mabey it work better. For example i like to see Saber in Wolvarine.

Beside´s that,i realy don´t know what kind of story there want for Magneto and Wolvarine and also i haven´t seen X-men 3 yet.

[MARVELous M]

A Magneto film can turn out great if done right. While most X-men fans would be interested to see it, I cant see this movie being very successful at the box office.

[Cdawg751]

I think a Magneto film could hold its own. I mean come on, there is so much material with this guy. And also a good power to work with, I mean if I had a mutant power, I would Magneto's, its the best. Well Said My Man!:)

[neotheone]

The chess scene at the end of x-men 3 made it so everyone wanted to figure out how the heck did he get his powers

[walternewell]

A movie about a major Marvel Comics villain? Yeah, it just might work.

[Vile]

Go from a child in a Auschwitz (sp?) to the greatest mutant supervillain in history? That seems like a fairly compelling story to me.

Which would take roughly 4 and half minutes. Magneto's origin is great, yes, but hardly a peice of literary masterpeice. It's actually quite simple and dare I say cliche - like I said, I dont see him holding his own movie.

[Ebil Gig]

In my humble opinion, it does have a chance to do well at the box office if done well but I just don't think it can hold on it's own.It's pretty risky on the studios part.Superhero spins-offs(Like Catwoman & Elektra) have a reputation for tanking.But maybe it will be different since its a male lead.Yes, X-Men/Magneto fans will see this movie but fanboys don't make up the general public.

But like Fanticon said, this movie could possibly ruin the X-Men franchise.

[AirKnight82]

like I said in the other Magneto thread. It deepends on the story and characters involved in it, so if they **** on Magnetos past and not notice how many things he was there for then it will be crapolla! Hopefully they focus on the main past he has in WW2, Xavier, and him meeting the X-men for the first time and then him being responsible for crippling Xavier at the end of the movie, but all this in a flashback while he is getting his powers back, and recreating the brother hood with pyro, toad, blob, avalache and his son Quicksilver. thus a back story of his two children.

[Crimson_L]

I believe it would work, Magneto is a great character and he has a good history to work with.

[Mike059jig]

No it can't.....unless Ian and Patrick star in it this movie won't last at all.....
Magneto's opening scene in X1 was very powerful...Magneto's character work best in a team concept movie...on its own it will suffer immensely.....but Im wait to see how it turns out

[Kritish]

I doubt this concept will get off the ground.

[gamemiester]

in terms of story maybe because theres alot that can be done with magneto and ian mckellan is a great actor, however financially the movie wont do very good at all, it definatley wont break $250 million worldwide and most likely $200 either

[X-Maniac]

This movie could easily do well if written/directed appropriately. Magneto has a rich backstory in the comics, a hint at a strong backstory in the movies, and a nice backstory in the movie preqel comics.

His backstory is also the backstory of Charles Xavier, the origin of the school, the story of the first known mutants, and the dramatic split from Xavier and from his children.

There's plenty of material for a movie. Besides it could be bookended with an opening sene of X3's powerless Magneto relfecting back on his life and a closing scene of him geting his powers back courtesy of genetic tampering from a scientist like Sinister or even Carl Lykos (based in the Savage Land?).

Trust me guys, there is plenty of material for a Magneto movie.

[Arkady Rossovich]

No,i dont really think a story about Magneto will be any different.I can imagine some fans prefer to see just the X-Men,not a solo on Magneto.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Trust me guys, there is plenty of material for a Magneto movie.

Agreed.

I just don't see the flick doing great business at the box office, though.

[Fried Gold]

Uh, obviously a Magneto movie can hold its own or they wouldn't be making it.Yeah, but they also made Elektra.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Yeah, but they also made Elektra.

Zing. :D

[X-Maniac]

No,i dont really think a story about Magneto will be any different.I can imagine some fans prefer to see just the X-Men,not a solo on Magneto.


Well, the movie would feature other characters, perhaps even the young X-Men, so it wouldn't just be a Magneto solo movie. In the prequel comic for X1, it was Magneto who discovered Cyclops, so there is chance for other characters to appear.

But calling it 'X-Men: Origins' might be a better choice for marketing purposes than calling it 'Magneto' or something without an obvious link to X-Men.

[TNC9852002]

Anyone who knows X-Men SHOULD know Magneto...

-TNC

[Mysterio]

Go from a child in a Auschwitz (sp?) to the greatest mutant supervillain in history? That seems like a fairly compelling story to me.Exactly. The persecuted becomes the persecutor. In a sense, he becomes no different than Hitler. That's quite a twist.

[ang_hulk]

voted no because its true,marvel really never gave him his own comic book let alone his own film.if its packed with other characters and involved him assembling a brother hood and stuff them mabey it would work but other then that were looking at a good chance of 20 mill tops if its a good movie.

[KingOfDreams]

I think it could, but it easily couldn't as well. This isn't a sure hit. But I'm more worried that the Ant-Man movie can't hold it's own.

[Havok83]

Im really not interested in a movie about Mags

[Angamb]

Is sure that this film won't be a success like Spiderman, Pirates, Harry, and even the x-films, but could have a decent box-office, according to its budget/production scale.

[BMM]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect this movie to be as successful as any of those movies.

[storm-x-fan]

I voted for NO.

[X-Maniac]

It has the potential to be a good movie. No-one's expecting or wanting a bridge-moving summer blockbuster.

But it has potential for good characterisation, great backstory and some excellent power displays and action scenes. It also has potential to use characters not yet seen in the franchise (Magneto's kids -- Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, for instance).

As long as it respects the Magneto storyline so far --- him being a kid in 1944. Also, in X1 Magneto says 'we have made the first move' when Sabretooth returns empty-handed from Canada and Xavier also implies they haven't yet gone up against Magneto or been involved in large-scale, significant activities. So any Magneto activities prior to the events of X1 would be covert or things that were not directly/publicly known to have been caused by Magneto. But Magneto already has that name in X1 (Xavier: 'He became Magneto'), so he evidently has been operating with that name for some time....

I think this could turn out to be a great project if Mr Goyer does his research, respects the previous X-movies and assembles a good creative team.

[Mr. Socko]

They are seriously trying to milk this franchise as much as possible.


Only reason I'm the slightest bit interested in a Magneto film is because of Sir Ian McK who may not even be in it.

[iron_spartan]

The movie will hold its own.

[iron_spartan]

The movie will hold its own.

[Cyrusbales]

A Magneto movie CAN hold it's own and be good, however THIS Magneto movie may be another matter....

[Argyle of Sock]

As of right now I'm really excited for this movie and until anything is released that makes me believe differently I say it's going to be awesome.

[Mother_Askani]

No. Magneto is an okay character who interests X-geeks, but doesn't have the type of mass appeal needed to succeed at the box office.

Prequel type stories are doomed to fail since everyone already knows what happens.

I've also read that the script for Magneto was written by someone who never read the comics and wrote it based off the movies. That makes it even worse since it's likely to not follow the continuity of the comics and make the film franchise and even bigger mess.

A big thumbs down from me.

[Vile]

Im really not interested in a movie about Mags

Neither is anyone else.

[jrd550]

It can, and will do well.

[bullets]

i would go see it , you would go see it but most mainstream audiences wont

[Magneto]

It can defanetly hold a movie, I'd like an X4 just as much, but I still can't wait

[Faded To Deaf]

Mags is an interesting character, there so much you can do with his origin and theories. Here's hopin' they get it right.

[Angamb]

and if the movie includes Xavier, Beast, Mistique.... more possibilities to work.

[Rac]

If the movie is anything like the little scene in the comics where Xavier encounters another telepath in Cairo I'm in. :up:

[woahwoahwoahwha]

I love the series, but I don't think I'd be too interested in seeing a Magneto spinoff.

[JeetKuneDo]

If the opening scene in the first X-Men movie is any indicaton...hells yes!

And so few movies deal with bad guys as the main character. (Western bad guys mostly.) It has a chance to really stand out from the crowd if done right. (I wish Marvel was doing it.)

[Angamb]

I'm agreed.

I imagine the movie in the tone of that opening scene, and wow, it could be a really good movie, eh! definetly.

And just adding more mutans, and some familiar faces will make the movie perfect (that tone, drama and some action = perfect combination)

[AlterEgo]

I'm not even going to see it, Magneto - no action, anything interesting

So No.

[Anubis Raptor]

IMO, X-Men Origins: Magneto is a huge oppurtunity to start off an era of movies about super villains. I am very optimistic about this film and I can see it being very successful.

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[Angamb]

I'm not even going to see it, Magneto - no action, anything interesting

So No.

who has said there won't be action? hehe

[Metal Spidey]

I guess, as long as they don't make it too gloomy.

[Faded To Deaf]

I disagree, I would love to see a gloomy film about Nazi's, the cold war and a great villain. After all Magneto holds some respect as a Bad Guy at least on some level, so it should be him descending into darkness. I see too many hero movies, make it a Evil guy's film. A hero to mutants though, I really didn't like Magneto sacrificing Rogue as his pawn, even though it makes him appear smarter.

[Angamb]

definetly, this movie has to be dark and serious, not a simple summer movie.

The character and the x-men universe deserve certain respect.

[IRON_Lad]

I totally agree DD

[katie_girl09]

Would a Magneto movie be able to hold its own? Probably.
Should it be made? Probably... not.
Would I see it? No.

[Microchip]

Wrong, you can't make that claim until they actually make the movie. If it turns out to look really really good, would you still not see it, based on the principle you said you wouldn't before the script was completed and the cameras started rolling? I doubt it.

This movie could be a good one, it'd probably need a lot more drama and a little more runtime than the X-Men movies have got so far though.

[ChaoticPsylocke]

i personally think that no one really has much of an urge to see magneto's childhood!

they should focus on the first class idea, and incorporate bits of magneto's past into it. that movie can still deal with him a lot, but not be confined to just his story.

[katie_girl09]

Wrong, you can't make that claim until they actually make the movie. If it turns out to look really really good, would you still not see it, based on the principle you said you wouldn't before the script was completed and the cameras started rolling? I doubt it.
Don't tell me what I would and would not see:o. As much as I love Magneto, I have absolutely no interest in going to see a movie about him in theatres. I would rather see spin-offs from many other characters, personally.

[Deaths Head II]

I didn't have an interest in seeing Wolverine until I saw the trailers.

Never say never.

[Deaths Head II]

I didn't have an interest in seeing Wolverine until I saw the trailers.

Never say never.

[Charlie No-One]

I think Magneto would make an amazing film. I agree it should have a serious tone though rather than summer blockbuster. There should be action though.

[Lightning Strykez!]

Can it hold its own? Hell no...not with the studio it's licensed with at this time. I mean, is there really any desire to see a Magneto film? Who wanted to see Elektra??

[X-Maniac]

If the film also showed some of Xavier's past, then it could be very interesting...


Charles Xavier was a mutant, a telepath who could read minds and in turn control them. (Xavier was born about 1933, and fought in the Korean war.) Crippled by an accident, in the sixties he formed "Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters", to train those who are born mutants in the use of their abilities. These became known as the X-Men.

Xavier implied that he got his abilities as a result of his parents' exposure to radiation. That was a half-truth. Though that might have aided the process, the truth is that he was inclined that way...through his mother.

The woman Stan Lee called "Sharon Xavier", Professor Xavier's mother, was actually an Englishwoman. Her full name was Anne Sharon Wainwright Xavier, and she was the son of Dr. Thomas Wainwright and Inga, a Swedish woman, and sibling to Tom, an architect, and the very "odd" John Wainwright.

Inga was the sister of Sven Nelson, father of Kent Nelson. Sven Nelson's mother was Inga Stjarnhelm, sister to Sven Stjarnhelm, who was Matt Helm's grandfather.

Odd John---whose life was chronicled by Olaf Stapledon---was a mutant who was the next stage in human evolution, with an intellect as far beyond ours as ours is from an ape's, with limited telepathic powers and other abilities. The telepathic ability seemed to have been magnified in his nephew, Professor Xavier, and the brillance was a bit more muted, but still wonderful, in his more normal-appearing nephew.

"Odd John" formed a colony of his kind, free from humans...and the entire colony of superhumans were destroyed by the Great Powers in a bombing raid, in 1928. It may be the memory of his uncle's tragic demise, and the death of practically all those who were the next step in evolution, that caused him to gather all those who were genetically different under his wing, to learn how to coexist with normal humans.
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[Lightning Strykez!]

I just don't believe there's a craving for a Magneto film right now. Studios need to make films for people, not just merely for profits.

[X-Maniac]

I just don't believe there's a craving for a Magneto film right now. Studios need to make films for people, not just merely for profits.

Well, I'd like to see it and I'm not thinking profit, so i don't know what the hell you are going on about. How can fans who want this be profit-driven?

[chaseter]

X3 and Wolverine were profit driven and mediocre films resulted. If they make Magneto a 90 minute summer fx fest then I will pass. I wanted this movie before I saw Wolverine but now I am hesitant because it will probably be a mediocre movie.

[Deaths Head II]

Well the reviews on the script I saw were actually positive while most of the reviews on the Wolverine script were pretty negative. I think it might have a chance to be good if they actually make it.

[katie_girl09]

X3 and Wolverine were profit driven and mediocre films resulted. If they make Magneto a 90 minute summer fx fest then I will pass. I wanted this movie before I saw Wolverine but now I am hesitant because it will probably be a mediocre movie.
Holy jeez, dude. They've barely done anything with it yet and you're already saying its gonna suck. How about actually watching the movie before you pass judgement?

[Deaths Head II]

Why would they not take that approach with Magneto all of a sudden if they're taking it with every other film they're making?

[goh78]

No. And Goyer is a sh--ty director to boot. But knowing Fox, it'll be Magneto's origin with cameos from Prof X, Jean Gray, Cyclops, Logan, and The Fantastic Four.

[katie_girl09]

Why would they not take that approach with Magneto all of a sudden if they're taking it with every other film they're making?
Is that directed at me?

[Deaths Head II]

Is that directed at me?

Yep.

[katie_girl09]

How about giving the movie a chance before judging it? Hmmm? Something different could happen this time. Fox does not always make bad movies. How about judging a movie as a movie alone rather than based on who is producing it. Seems like common sense to me.

[Duneboy]

Ya it's gotta be done right. Please, no Goyer!! Magneto's an awesome character & if there's gonna be a film made he deserves no less. Please don't f*** this one up!:ikyn

[Deaths Head II]

How about giving the movie a chance before judging it? Hmmm? Something different could happen this time. Fox does not always make bad movies. How about judging a movie as a movie alone rather than based on who is producing it. Seems like common sense to me.

It seems like common sense that a movie made by a director who always directs bad movies under a studio that frequently makes bad movies is more likely to be a bad movie then a good one. And it doesn't seem crazy to have the first impressions of such a film being made to be a negative one.

I would rather set my expectations low with a Fox film and be pleasantly surprised. If you expect the worst you can't be disappointed.