View Full Version : should jean,cyclops, pro x be brought back?
phillip phonix
06-19-2006, 04:15 AM
should jean,cyclops, pro x be brought back if so how could they be
FaT_tONle
06-19-2006, 09:54 AM
ALready got mad threads about this so don't start new ones... cyclops yes... prof X's mind (in like a computer or a body) yes... Jean... NO!!!
cornernat
06-19-2006, 10:58 AM
yes to all, case closed
JeanGrey12
06-19-2006, 02:12 PM
yes to all, case closed
second that. i love all three of their characters and jean is my fav!:xmen:
Hitch-Hiker
06-19-2006, 05:01 PM
No to Jean and Cyclops, because it'd just be stupid, but seeing as Prof X's conscious mind is alive and well, there's no reason for him not to feature.
Sun_Down
06-19-2006, 05:19 PM
No to all, case closed.
Storm X
06-19-2006, 05:40 PM
No to Jean- Killed in the second movie, brought back in the third, killed in the third, brought back in the fourth. Oh no! People would laugh at the X-MEN franchise, huge disrespect to the characters. A definite no!
No to Cyke- Even though we did'nt really see him die, he just was'nt an interesting character in the movie and didn't play an important part. So why bring him back when we can have some other great characters in the film. No to Cyke, sorry Cyke.
Maybe to Prof. X- I dont know about a Proffesor X in a different body, but if done right they could give him a small part in X4 that would just significantly show him in a new body, let the X-MEN know he's in a new body, just not have alot of screen time. I'd give him the ammount of screentime Colossus had in the third film. So a maybe to Proffesor X (if done right) If not done right, then let's not bother and waste money.
FaT_tONle
06-19-2006, 06:12 PM
No to Jean- Killed in the second movie, brought back in the third, killed in the third, brought back in the fourth. Oh no! People would laugh at the X-MEN franchise, huge disrespect to the characters. A definite no!
No to Cyke- Even though we did'nt really see him die, he just was'nt an interesting character in the movie and didn't play an important part. So why bring him back when we can have some other great characters in the film. No to Cyke, sorry Cyke.
Maybe to Prof. X- I dont know about a Proffesor X in a different body, but if done right they could give him a small part in X4 that would just significantly show him in a new body, let the X-MEN know he's in a new body, just not have alot of screen time. I'd give him the ammount of screentime Colossus had in the third film. So a maybe to Proffesor X (if done right) If not done right, then let's not bother and waste money.
I agree... you have to be practical with movies... sorry fanboys... but there just ain't no way to do it... go find a comic to read if you want to see dead ppl coming back but it can't work on the big screen.
Logan Howlett
06-19-2006, 06:17 PM
I think everyone who Jean killed could be brout back simply by saying they are trapped in the astral plane, or that their matter was just transported by Jean to some other place. I mean their attoms just kind of flew off into the air, and could easily be placed somewhere else like nightcrawlers teleportation. I mean for a chick who can "do anything she thinks" I'd say its plausable, and Prof X will figure a way to find them.
Angelus7181
06-20-2006, 09:23 AM
Yes to all of them!
I can see Jean coming back for X5 or X6... As the true Dark Pheonix ressurected where she unleashes hell on the x-world, finally having the chance to see the whole team take her on but not killing her at the end some how bringing Jean back for good.
Cyclops should come back as a cliffhanger in X4, his return could be explained in X5.
Professor X... could simply turn out implanting his mind before the Phoenix scraped him to the body we saw after the credits which could be a clone or a twin of Professor X.
Characters like these always come back!
JeanGrey12
06-20-2006, 09:30 AM
Yes to all of them!
I can see Jean coming back for X5 or X6... As the true Dark Pheonix ressurected where she unleashes hell on the x-world, finally having the chance to see the whole team take her on but not killing her at the end some how bringing Jean back for good.
Cyclops should come back as a cliffhanger in X4, his return could be explained in X5.
Professor X... could simply turn out implanting his mind before the Phoenix scraped him to the body we saw after the credits which could be a clone or a twin of Professor X.
Characters like these always come back!
good ideas :O
Drago
06-20-2006, 09:14 PM
People are going to hate me for saying this, but "no" to all. If this were a never-ending world like the comics or the animated shows where stories go on forever, fine, but not in the movieverse. In my opinion, it would push the issue of realism too much, plus it would throw out any potential for focusing on other characters.
I say bring them back in flashbacks- for example Scott being recruited, rising to leader, or meeting Jean.
roguephoenix
06-21-2006, 04:05 PM
just as long as jean is back i don't care who comes back or doesn't. i doubt it though, unless they bring her back as a teen. very feasible and works with the story for x4
Fallen Sky
06-21-2006, 05:54 PM
Yes to Professor X because his ressurection was hinted at already at the end of X3, and yes to Cyclops because his death was never really confirmed, only assumed.
I'm torn on Jean...I don't want X3 to stand as the prime Phoenix story, but I don't want her coming back every film. If they are planning on bringing her back, they should hold it off for a few movies.
Mike059jig
06-21-2006, 06:05 PM
I would like them back..But Jean is dead and should stay that way,It will make it too comicbooky if she is brought back...Professor X is back already...As for Cyclops,As much of fan I am,I see nothing in the future for this character in other movies...since he was killed in his story line, the pheonix saga, what use does he have in other stories if they gonna do that...NO to Jean, NO to Cycylops...(Although it could take a great writter to alot of explaination for the death) As for now its No to Jean and Cyclops.. and Professor X is already not dead...
jusblaze21
06-21-2006, 06:23 PM
Of course they should.
Decay
06-22-2006, 05:37 AM
It would be nice to see them alive again but bring Jean to life from the grave would be kinda weird...
JeanGrey12
06-22-2006, 07:15 AM
It would be nice to see them alive again but bring Jean to life from the grave would be kinda weird...
idk. i think it actually would make sense to bring her to life again (not just because im a fan). i mean she's the phoneix...
If Cyclops died, who knocked Jean unconcious at the lake? Sorry, Cyclops death is purposefully unconfirmed. They can say he's dead all they want, but no one can confirm that, and there's no reason someone can't have him just walk up in any sequel with any more explanation than "I was thrown into the woods when Jean took over for a split second."
Professor X isn't dead anymore... why this new body sounds like Patrick Stewart is anybody's guess... I think Cassandra Nova had some similar birth defect or something... I can't remember.
Jean... well... only if we find out that the Phoenix is more than just her subconcious, then it could bring her back. Otherwise. She's extremely dead with no remedy... except transporting her mind into some teenage girl somewhere. Named Rachel. Which acutally could be cool...
Darthkush
06-22-2006, 10:30 AM
no to Jean, Xavier is already still alive, and Cyclops yes because we never saw a body or an disintegration or anything.
ntcrawler
06-22-2006, 10:57 AM
If Cyclops died, who knocked Jean unconcious at the lake? Sorry, Cyclops death is purposefully unconfirmed. They can say he's dead all they want, but no one can confirm that, and there's no reason someone can't have him just walk up in any sequel with any more explanation than "I was thrown into the woods when Jean took over for a split second."
Jean... well... only if we find out that the Phoenix is more than just her subconcious, then it could bring her back. Otherwise. She's extremely dead with no remedy... except transporting her mind into some teenage girl somewhere. Named Rachel. Which acutally could be cool...
Got that right about Scott. It has never been established that he died, and no evidence given. What little we see happening at the end of the Alkali Lake scene is clearly a different effect than the one used when Phoenix is destroying people later in the film. Same deal in the book. Wolverine comes to his own conclusion and presses that thought into others, especially Jean who acts like she's trying to deny it and then gets agitated when Wolverine insists. More than likely there was an accident and he got psy-blasted into the woods, and could be wandering lost and blind around Alkali Lake without his glasses. This isn't coincidence, people
EnSabahNur
06-23-2006, 11:31 AM
I want Cyclops and Xavier is allready back... I'm gonna post my idea for the next two movies in a bit.
Decay
06-23-2006, 12:23 PM
idk. i think it actually would make sense to bring her to life again (not just because im a fan). i mean she's the phoneix...
Yeah...but think about. Jean died in X2 then she came back to life in X3 then she died again. And she will rise again in X4??????
What would the audience think, I mean the ones that are not X-men fans?
ntcrawler
06-23-2006, 11:08 PM
Yeah...but think about. Jean died in X2 then she came back to life in X3 then she died again. And she will rise again in X4??????
What would the audience think, I mean the ones that are not X-men fans?
I'll tell you what they would think:
OOOOOH LOOK! SPECIAL EFFECTS PRETTY!!!
FIGHING SCENES PRETTY!!!
WOLVERINE PRETTY!!!
Knowing how some people have a short attention span they probably wouldn't remember what happened in the previous movie unless it was played out to them with flashback scenes or explained using pie charts and sock puppets. Besides,
The plot, storyline, character development and nuances are for us :)
cardslinger
06-24-2006, 10:02 AM
Xavier should and will come back. Cyclops could possibly come back. It would take a lot of explenation though. It would need to include Sinister somehow. As for Jean, I don't think she should come back, as much as I love her. People would think it was rediculous for her to return again. They should bring her back in X6 if they must bring her back.
JeanGrey12
06-24-2006, 03:02 PM
Yeah...but think about. Jean died in X2 then she came back to life in X3 then she died again. And she will rise again in X4??????
What would the audience think, I mean the ones that are not X-men fans?
haha true.
Lightning Strykez!
06-24-2006, 07:55 PM
Xavier? Yes.
Scott? Yes.
Jean? No (her return would make the whole thing a joke since she would've "died" at the end of two films straight--the concept is played now).
gambitfire
06-24-2006, 08:03 PM
Bringing back Xavier is enough Bringing back Scott seems like overkill.
As much as i would love to see Scott back the movies can't have certain things that the comic books have i.e. Constant Death and resurrection.
Although they can be overwhelmingly exagerated *cougsWolverine'shealingability* :D
They should bring in Mr. Sinister as the villain and have all 3 brought back. :)
Speedball
06-24-2006, 11:13 PM
Jean- No, at least not in the next few movies.
Scott- Yes, His survival should ave to do with Sinister
Xavier- He already is back, just in a new form.
Angamb
06-25-2006, 08:38 AM
Only Charles. Although Scott deserved more and better, but no more death characters returning.
I think when Charles returns to the X-Men (as it is already revealed that he's alive in some form), he should bear the news that he somehow knows that Scott's not really dead (didn't see him in Astral Plane, whatever). This could set up Sinister holding Scott hostage and the X-Men retrieving him.
Majik1387
06-25-2006, 04:13 PM
Not right away. Prof X could come back in whoever's body it was at the end of X3. Scott could come back sooner, maybe X-5 or X-6. Jean, as much as I love her, I'm gonna have to say no unless in flashbacks. Even though the Phoenix Saga was butchered, it would be too unrealistic for her to keep on coming back moviewise.
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