Brando CG Demonstration

[J.Howlett]

Everyone, get thee to AICN to see this Quicktime demonstration. It's freaky.

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23646

[The Kid]

can anyone save it to their computer and up it on the youtube? I can't view any of the linked ones there.

[DorkyFresh]

wicked

[Zigno]

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/jor_el/jor_el_large.mov

[IKnowSomeJudo]

Hahaha, that's brilliant.

[Benstamania]

Wow.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Technology is a wonderful thing. ****ing incredible.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Holy ****. That was pretty impressive. I only wished they didn't use that creepy music, makes it sound like they're building a clone army of Brandos to take over the world or something. How about some nice Planet Krypton theme music as they do this? Nitpicky I know.

Still, that's damn impressive. Anyone who has seen the movie, does Brando...uh, Jor-el say more than this?

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I would imagine he does. I'm guessing that's just an insight into what it took just to get the face to match vocals. Pretty tideous work just for one line...

[Mr. Credible]

wow. that rocks.

[VideoGames]

That is very cool

[insaneMoViEgoer]

"you do not remember me."

i cant get it out of my head

[Naite22]

That's just amazing!!! Can't wait to see this **** on the big screen.

[Naite22]

Holy ****. That was pretty impressive. I only wished they didn't use that creepy music, makes it sound like they're building a clone army of Brandos to take over the world or something. How about some nice Planet Krypton theme music as they do this? Nitpicky I know.

Still, that's damn impressive. Anyone who has seen the movie, does Brando...uh, Jor-el say more than this?
Just because that music is used in this video clip, it doesn't mean (by far!) that it's the music used in the movie...

[The Kid]

bloody monkeys, now I really want to see it. can anyone tube this thing?

[ak.]

That's powerful stuff. Amazing. Should pack an emotional punch to see Jor El like that...wow.

[Matt]

This is morbid. Worse than having Vincent Price sell vaccums.

[Michael Corleone]

Amazing how well that worked. Now I'm not just looking forward to the film but I cant wait to get my hands on the DVD so I can see the fx work done. Granted I was before but now I really want to know more.

[Michael Corleone]

This is morbid. Worse than having Vincent Price sell vaccums.

How is this morbid?

[Fatboy Roberts]

don't get him started.

[Nivek]

don't get him started.

He's already here, doesn't take more than that to get him going...

[ToddIsDead]

That was a bit weird...

And that music was absolutely hypnotic.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Morbid?

I don't see how.....I mean, the footage and audio is actually Brando.

I mean, I'm playing the Godfather for the XBOX....and.....well....he's in there too.

[VideoGames]

Doesn't take more than that to get him going...

This was posted in the X Boards

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1664/x3advanceonesheetfinal1dc.jpg

lol

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Who's the guy in the middle and the two dudes in back?

[ToddIsDead]

Awesome poster. Perfectly reflects my feelings for the movie.

[VideoGames]

Who's the guy in the middle and the two dudes in back?

The guy in the Middle is Tom Rothman President of FOX & I think the guy in the light greenish shirt in the back is Hugh & not sure about the other guy

[Nivek]

The writer of The Hulk sequel/redux, Zakk Penn

[Superfreak]

I want a marlon brando/jorel computer interface, 5 years down the road for sure

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

Brando never wanted to return to Superman ever and if he was alive he would not be attach to the lost footage of Superman 2 the directors cut.

Brando didn't even memorise his lines and only did superman for money. Brando disliked the movie and once said he never even watched it or something to that extent.

The fact is Brando is in Superman returns cause he is dead had he been alive that would not be the case and singer should know that

[Nivek]

Your late and your act sucks, Movieman.

[Superfreak]

Brando never wanted to return to Superman ever and if he was alive he would not be attach to the lost footage of Superman 2 the directors cut.

Brando didn't even memorise his lines and only did superman for money. Brando disliked the movie and once said he never even watched it or something to that extent.

The fact is Brando is in Superman returns cause he is dead had he been alive that would not be the case and singer should know that

that all depends on who owns the footage, it's essentially the same as re-editing STM to make a new preview out of the old films (lets say for a dvd re release). They're just taking footage that they own, and are doing movie stuff to it. That's life.

and besides, Brando has achieved a measure of immortality, Palpatine and Vader would be so jealouse.

[MR. MOVIEMAN]

that isn't the case Brando was never paid for the footage in superman 2 ergo it could never be used while he was alive , its only happening now because he is dead and his estate gave the go ahead.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So.....blame his ****ing estate.......they're supposed to do what he would have wanted.....

[Gamma Ray]

Whoa! That's amazing! Great bit of footage at the end, too.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Just because that music is used in this video clip, it doesn't mean (by far!) that it's the music used in the movie...

You don't actually think I think that do you? I think not! I meant as far as the demonstration. The music they used was on the sinister side, and I had just woke up from a weird nap so seeing this vid with it's eerie music was very trippy and freaky for me, like I was still dreaming.

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Brando didn't even memorise his lines and only did superman for money.

For a self-declared movie man, your knowledge of Brando is quite limited and skewed.

First of all, he RARELY memorized his lines. It was his own method of method acting. He was notorious for this; he used to tape his lines to items in front of him hidden from camera's view during shooting. He felt this was his best way of conveying an emotion from a line, and considering he is considered one of the finest actors in the world, apparently he was correct.

In fact, it's rumored that some of his lines are taped to baby Kal-el's diaper in the scene when he sends his son off!

Second, he actually contributed to the Superman mythology..for the better. It was HIS idea to have the 'S' symbol on his own tunic as representative of his family or clan or what have you. That has now become through the comics and even TAS as established, and even obviously carries over to SR.

Who cares why he did Superman. It's one of the more memorable aspects of the first film, and his whole cosmic lesson to his son in the middle part before Clark becomes Superman is one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie.

[Superfreak]

So.....blame his ****ing estate.......they're supposed to do what he would have wanted.....

thank you, finally...

anyhow, whoever has the run of his estate is probably being well compensated. So, as a father, Brando is helping those he cares about (we assume they are those he left the estate to) from beyond the grave. As my beloved Hackman Luthor/Otis momment goes, 'What more could anyone ask'

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I thought his wife was running his estate.

[Havok85H]

In fact, it's rumored that some of his lines are taped to baby Kal-el's diaper in the scene when he sends his son off!

Actually, I had the great opportunity to have dinner with Tom Mankiewicz a few months ago--he said that Brando had his lines on cue cards. But Donner liked to play jokes on set, and Brando had claimed he didn't know the lines. So during a take, Donner mixed up the cue cards, and sure enough, Brando nailed every line. Donner just smiled at him after the take and called him a faker. haha it was a much better story when Mankiewicz told it. He told a few Brando stories, as well as some nice Christopher Reeve stories I hadn't heard before.

[Michael Corleone]

Brando is also on record as saying the reason he did Superman was because he wanted something his children and grandchildren could enjoy and watch him in. And yes Brando even had place cards with his lines on the desk and on the wall in The Godfather.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

And, hey....with this....even his great grand children will enjoy his work.,

[LostSon88]

The fact is Brando is in Superman returns cause he is dead had he been alive that would not be the case and singer should know that

I'm not entirely sure about that...I mean Mr. Brando DID record dialogue for "The Godfather: The Game".

Considering his willingness to participate in a videogame, it's possible he may had been open to "reprising" his role for Superman Returns, were he still alive.

[SingItWithMeNow]

why is this thing not working for me?

EDIT: Dont worry, got it through iTunes.

[buggs0268]

How is this morbid?
Yeah please dont get him started.

[buggs0268]

Brando is also on record as saying the reason he did Superman was because he wanted something his children and grandchildren could enjoy and watch him in. And yes Brando even had place cards with his lines on the desk and on the wall in The Godfather.
Yeah he was famouse for that. That was his method of acting. a lot of actors felt that he did it because he was too lazy to learn his lines, but it worked for him.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So.......anyone know just how much of Jor-El we see and hear in this flick? I'm guessing it's only left in the FOS and that one scene when Superman is in the sky contimplating.

[buggs0268]

Brando never wanted to return to Superman ever and if he was alive he would not be attach to the lost footage of Superman 2 the directors cut.

Brando didn't even memorise his lines and only did superman for money. Brando disliked the movie and once said he never even watched it or something to that extent.

The fact is Brando is in Superman returns cause he is dead had he been alive that would not be the case and singer should know that
No. he would ahve agreed to it had teh Salkind's paid him. It was during the shooting that he found out he was not getting paid and the Salkind's told Donner that they were scrapping Brando's lines in 2. That was one of the things that started the Donner/Salkind fued. Had they paid him his fee and the legal bills then he would have consented to be in 2. But the Salkinds already had their Superman 2 and they didn't need to do it. The younger Salkind knows that with Returns coming out, and this being released about the time returns is released in DVD, he will make boatloads of money.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

From what I know, budeting was a huge problem with the first 2 films.

[arty2]

Very, very cool!! Wish they could manipulate audio the same way, I mean if they did couldn't they create more dialogue?

[Zakk Sabbath]

Very, very cool!! Wish they could manipulate audio the same way, I mean if they did couldn't they create more dialogue?

Scary. What's to say we won't see another movie with Christopher Reeve in a couple years?

[MaskedManJRK]

While I'm still not too sure it's morally the good thing to do, I have to admit, it's a very interesting process they're going through.

[Cinemaman]

It was amazing to see how they were doing that :up:

Great work.

[Steelsheen]

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/jor_el/jor_el_large.mov

is there a way to upload this on YSI or something? it wont play unless there's QT on the pc.

[Cinemaman]

Can somebody give me link where I can download it on my PC???

I was trying to do that with raincloud link, but there is only sound.

[The Kid]

Youtubed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7v27XtgQg

enjoy

[Gold Samurai]

wow.......freaky and really awesome at the same time

we've come along ways from "forrest gump" with the JFK interaction

and star wars episode 3 with Peter Cushing

On the new dialogue, I think they'd have to find a voice actor who sounded like brando.


the face could be widened a bit and the hair look too perfect, there's no strands of hair sticking out


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5996/test8xp.jpg

[StarvingArtist]

Dude, this is so effin' cool. I think the technology could still use some refining though; that vid doesn't really make me buy the CG head as a convincing human likeness (the lip movements look wierd.) It's likely just a rough test though. Can't wait to see what it really looks like :)

[Cinemaman]

Youtubed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-7v27XtgQg

enjoy

But how can I download it on my PC???

With QT version.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Morally? What'd be the issue morally?

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

That is an awesome peice of cg..even from beyond the grave..he still can be jor'el

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

That is an awesome peice of cg..even from beyond the grave..he still can be jor'el

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, in a way, he's the best fit to be Jor-El.

[CGHulk]

But how can I download it on my PC???



With QT version.
Here's a direct link from WB, you can save it to your hard drive! :)
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/jor_el/jor_el_large.mov

[Brian Braddock]

That footage was simply................amazing (or 'Super', if you will).


:up:

[Captain Villa]

Amazing.

[Matt]

He's already here, doesn't take more than that to get him going...

Actually, I'm not. I've already been over it numerous times. I think it is wrong, you don't. Someone has a different opinion then the all mighty Nivek. Deal with it. Here's an idea, why don't you save your snide comments next time and actually debate the issue instead of acting like some pompus, high horse jerk.

Nivek's comeback: "Oh the irony that you called me a high horse jerk" or something to that extent. So predictable.

Nivek's comeback to that: "I'm predictable? Here is why you're predictable".

See how boring this has become Nivek? So how about you just learn that people have GAAAAAAAASP different opinions than you and move on (here it comes...something about me telling people about differing opinions)

[Matt]

Morbid?

I don't see how.....I mean, the footage and audio is actually Brando.

I mean, I'm playing the Godfather for the XBOX....and.....well....he's in there too.

Primary difference: Brando signed his image rights over to the makers of The Godfather game and if I'm not mistaken actually did some of the voice work, as opposed to using his last 30 years legally keeping the footage from being shown.

[buggs0268]

wow.......freaky and really awesome at the same time

we've come along ways from "forrest gump" with the JFK interaction

and star wars episode 3 with Peter Cushing

On the new dialogue, I think they'd have to find a voice actor who sounded like brando.


the face could be widened a bit and the hair look too perfect, there's no strands of hair sticking out


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5996/test8xp.jpg
They did not insert Peter Cushing into 3. That was an actor that looked like him. They thought they were going to have to do it, but found an actor that fit the bill.

[Syncos]

the face could be widened a bit and the hair look too perfect, there's no strands of hair sticking out


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5996/test8xp.jpg

I'm sure they COULD have perfected it. But what's the point, they knew the scene, and since they were distorting his face in that crystal anyway, i'm sure It wouldn't be noticable.

[The Caped Knight]

Wow that's awesome . I can't wait to see Brando in RETURNS .

[Mentok]

Thats was sweet :up:

[CGHulk]

wow.......freaky and really awesome at the same time

we've come along ways from "forrest gump" with the JFK interaction

and star wars episode 3 with Peter Cushing

On the new dialogue, I think they'd have to find a voice actor who sounded like brando.


the face could be widened a bit and the hair look too perfect, there's no strands of hair sticking out


http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5996/test8xp.jpg
I was thinking about Forest Gump too! :) :up:

[OneKnight]

They did not insert Peter Cushing into 3. That was an actor that looked like him. They thought they were going to have to do it, but found an actor that fit the bill.

Correct. It was actor Wayne Pygram who played Tarkin in Episode III.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3795/comparison7tq.jpg

[Super_Child]

wow that was amazing the model ones finished looked 100% real.

[scifiwolf]

Well, seeing how Jor-el is a computer-animated likeness of a dead man anyway, it's very appropriate that the actor who plays him is a computer-animated likeness of a dead man.

[Superfreak]

I want a talking Jor'el head on my desktop

[WhatsHisFace]

that isn't the case Brando was never paid for the footage in superman 2 ergo it could never be used while he was alive , its only happening now because he is dead and his estate gave the go ahead.
You idiot. The footage he did for Superman 2 was shot when he was doing Superman 1, much like most of Superman 2 itself.

"Yeah, I'm Marlin Brando and I lived for twenty years after Superman 2 was made, but I won't ask for the money." :rolleyes:

Wow, you're real bright, moron.

[scifiwolf]

You idiot. The footage he did for Superman 2 was shot when he was doing Superman 1, much like most of Superman 2 itself.

"Yeah, I'm Marlin Brando and I lived for twenty years after Superman 2 was made, but I won't ask for the money." :rolleyes:

Wow, you're real bright, moron.Ouch. Burn.

[WhatsHisFace]

Sorry, I just get a little touchy when people blatantly lie for no other reason than to annoy others.

[scifiwolf]

Lol- I agree with ya 100% on that.

[jrd550]

Everyone, get thee to AICN to see this Quicktime demonstration. It's freaky.

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23646


It's freaky cool man - freakin awesome.

[DeFett]

This is up on podcast on iTunes if anyone is interested.

[Katsuro]

Sorry, I just get a little touchy when people blatantly lie for no other reason than to annoy others.

Who the hell says he's lying to annoy you? Ever think he might just be misinformed? No need to be a total jerk.

[DorkyFresh]

he hangs out at the games forum all the time where they're allowed to call each other names. i'm not sure he knows that there's a level of maturity that's required to post in this forum...hehe

[Chris M]

You idiot. The footage he did for Superman 2 was shot when he was doing Superman 1, much like most of Superman 2 itself.

"Yeah, I'm Marlin Brando and I lived for twenty years after Superman 2 was made, but I won't ask for the money."

Wow, you're real bright, moron.
Actually there's a fair bit of truth to what he said.

Although Brando shot all his scenes during STM, some footage was intended for S2. However when WB decided to proceed with S2 the Salkinds weren't going to pay Brando an additional amount for appearing in the 'extra' film.

Under most contracts, the studio is required to pay the actor if he/she appears in a film regardless of when the footage was shot (eg: the actors who played Johnny and Kreese in Karate Kid II were paid even though they filmed their scenes during KKI. This agreement was upheld. Brando demanded a substantial sum. The Salkinds refused. Jor-El was cut from S2.

[DV8]

Dammit!!! I can't see it . . . does anyone know if this footage will be shown in any of the upcoming specials?

[KrypJonian]

Awesome. Amazing. That's all.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Primary difference: Brando signed his image rights over to the makers of The Godfather game and if I'm not mistaken actually did some of the voice work, as opposed to using his last 30 years legally keeping the footage from being shown.

But, didn't he die like a decade before the game was even made??

[ToddIsDead]

But, didn't he die like a decade before the game was even made??
I could be wrong, but I think Brando only died like two years ago.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Oh okay, I honestly thought he died before then.

Although....how long was the game in production for? It was just released this year.