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The Riddler
10-18-2006, 12:27 AM
i believe i made the prediction that farmar, though he would need a few game to get accustoemd to nba ball is a dynamic passer and playmaker and would make an impact in the nba.
"Kaman and his agent, Rob Pelinka, have declined to discuss how much they are seeking, but sources said the two sides would reach an agreement if the Clippers increased their proposal to $55 million over five years and included about $2.5 million in attainable performance bonuses. The current proposal includes bonuses, but they're considered difficult for Kaman to earn."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cliprep19oct19,1,964612.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
im telling you one of the bonuses has to be him cutting his hair. That must be the one "too difficult" for kaman to earn. lol.
Id be cautious about the 11 million dollar a year deal. They really have to calculate it out. TECHNICALLy i think it might work. I cant imagine they offered him their most they possibly could with their first offer...not many teams do that on their initial offer unless were talking max deals. So perhaps they left themselves some leeway. If so, then id say the clippers agree perhaps to 5 years 52 million or something like that.
If their first offer WAS the best...oh well. Plan B. I would not be mad at the clippers for NOT paying Kaman (as much as i like him) 55 million, just as i wasnt mad at the clippers for not paying Simmons 40 million or whatever he got (as much as i liked simmons). We havent missed simmons one bit, and with the cap room, draft picks, sofo, etc. etc. i dont think we would be crying our eyes out if we lost kaman. (unless he went to the lakers, whom we know dont have the money. )
DarthRekal
10-19-2006, 12:52 PM
CLIPS v LAKES tonigh!:woot:
nice prediction riddler hope its true!:word:
Mister J
10-19-2006, 01:02 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts Phoenix to top Miami in the Finals. I'm not real happy about that. I couldn't care less about them saying Phoenix will beat Miami. I just want them to stay away from all my teams after tabbing the Dolphins as a Super Bowl pick. Look at the carnage that's taken place since. :csad:
Ben Urich
10-19-2006, 01:24 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts Phoenix to top Miami in the Finals. I'm not real happy about that. I couldn't care less about them saying Phoenix will beat Miami. I just want them to stay away from all my teams after tabbing the Dolphins as a Super Bowl pick. Look at the carnage that's taken place since. :csad:
Srsly. :csad:
Dan LeBatard said on PTI yesterday that the Dolphins won't score more than 17 points in any game this season.
I have to agree. :csad:
LastSunrise1981
10-19-2006, 02:33 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts Phoenix to top Miami in the Finals. I'm not real happy about that. I couldn't care less about them saying Phoenix will beat Miami. I just want them to stay away from all my teams after tabbing the Dolphins as a Super Bowl pick. Look at the carnage that's taken place since. :csad:
Phoenix won't make it to the championships, and even if they did, Miami would beat them because Phoenix doesn't play defense and Miami would slow them down.
I think it's going to come down between Dallas/Phoenix for the West though.
Phoenix won't make it to the championships, and even if they did, Miami would beat them because Phoenix doesn't play defense and Miami would slow them down.
I think it's going to come down between Dallas/Phoenix for the West though.
How exactly are the heat going to slow down the suns? I cant think of one player on the heat that can slow down the suns other than wade. The only thing I can think is that Nash will run out of gas by the time he reach the finals which will probably happen if the suns make it that far.
LastSunrise1981
10-19-2006, 02:42 PM
How exactly are the heat going to slow down the suns? I cant think of one player on the heat that can slow down the suns other than wade. The only thing I can think is that Nash will run out of gas by the time he reach the finals which will probably happen if the suns make it that far.
You being a Laker fan should know how the Suns can be contained.
The Lakers proved that if you play a half-court offense and slow down the tempo you own the Suns. I think where the Lakers failed was they tried to run with them instead of keeping that same strategy.
Miami, as much as I hate them, know how to control a tempo and Riley was/is the king of making the opposing team play 48 minutes of slow grinding basketball.
You being a Laker fan should know how the Suns can be contained.
The Lakers proved that if you play a half-court offense and slow down the tempo you own the Suns. I think where the Lakers failed was they tried to run with them instead of keeping that same strategy.
Miami, as much as I hate them, know how to control a tempo and Riley was/is the king of making the opposing team play 48 minutes of slow grinding basketball.
Clippers tried to do same thing as well but damn those 3pt shots just killed the clippers and the Lakers! You forget one thing suns live and die from the 3pt line! But they live more often then they die! START THE ****ING SEASON ALREADY! Im PUMPED UP FOR TONIGHT GAME!
Mister J
10-19-2006, 03:11 PM
How exactly are the heat going to slow down the suns? I cant think of one player on the heat that can slow down the suns other than wade. The only thing I can think is that Nash will run out of gas by the time he reach the finals which will probably happen if the suns make it that far. Sunrise beat me to it, but if you get Phoenix in a half-court game, they crumble. The Heat are good at establishing the type of tempo that favors their play. I didn't pay much attention to the their series with the Clippers, but look at the way the Lakers and Mavs played them last year. When Mamba & Co. were at a deliberate pace they had the Suns' ass. It was when they got away from that co-op style of ball that Phoenix came back. The Suns were also more competitive than they should have been with Dallas until Dallas remembered they know how to play defense. You have a point with the 3's, but that has a way of catching up to you in the playoffs. It makes a nice regular season run, but to get a ring you need to be able to be able to functioning in shorter offensive sets too. For all the damage they can do on offense, they're more than willing to give you free reign on the other side of the ball. You can't beat the other upper echelon teams in the League like that. Phoenix will fall short this year for the same reason they fall short every year ...all they want to do is run and they don't play D.
I am looking forward to get all this under way though. That Lakes-Clips game is on TNT and will be checking it out ...at least until the guys who won't play this year get in.
Immortalfire
10-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Perhaps this year, I can finally get to my first game ever. I wanted to go as a child, but never did.
Ben Urich
10-19-2006, 03:45 PM
Perhaps this year, I can finally get to my first game ever. I wanted to go as a child, but never did.
My first NBA game was awesome. I played with my Batman and Penguin action figures and spilled Coke on the floor. :up:
Dad tells me that the game was between the Magic and the Hornets, but I don't actually remember any basketball taking place. :huh:
XwolverineX
10-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Who's kicking ass? The Canadian Raptors, f**ck yeah.
Ben Urich
10-19-2006, 03:50 PM
I still have a Vince Carter jersey. Asked for it for my birthday after he did this:
http://nba2k6rulz.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/vince-carter-between-the-legs.jpg
:wow:
EDIT: Yes, I know he plays for the Nets now. He's the name I most associate with the Raptors. Well, him and Damon Stoudemire.
Ghostvirus
10-19-2006, 03:56 PM
You all can debate about Miami all you want, but Chicago is the team in the East. I advise you all to sig this next sentence. Phoenix, & Chicago will be battling it out in June for the Championship.
Chicago is playing old school team play, defense first basketball. Phoenix also plays team ball. If anyone here really wants Integrity to be put back into basketball, then you should want these two teams to meet in the finals, & they will. Mark it.
Ben Urich
10-19-2006, 04:00 PM
I've got the Jazz and the Bobcats. :up:
You all can debate about Miami all you want, but Chicago is the team in the East. I advise you all to sig this next sentence. Phoenix, & Chicago will be battling it out in June for the Championship.
Chicago is playing old school team play, defense first basketball. Phoenix also plays team ball. If anyone here really wants Integrity to be put back into basketball, then you should want these two teams to meet in the finals, & they will. Mark it.
There offense is there biggest weakness but if they make the trade Maggette for Deng then ill put in my sig:o
Immortalfire
10-19-2006, 04:16 PM
My first NBA game was awesome. I played with my Batman and Penguin action figures and spilled Coke on the floor. :up:
Dad tells me that the game was between the Magic and the Hornets, but I don't actually remember any basketball taking place. :huh: LoL
DarthRekal
10-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts Phoenix to top Miami in the Finals. I'm not real happy about that. I couldn't care less about them saying Phoenix will beat Miami. I just want them to stay away from all my teams after tabbing the Dolphins as a Super Bowl pick. Look at the carnage that's taken place since. :csad:
lol..i love the SI jinx!:woot:
no ship for the heat this year... i put anything on it...sorry J i may be a little bitter but all aside i feel the heat just if the mavs had won..would be one hit wonders...
i think its pretty much a toss up in the west..all teams dont look INVINCIBLE and the east is the same .... i say bulls or pistons..but you can never count out the champs until they are OUT...
check out farmar tonight J
Mister J
10-19-2006, 04:30 PM
You all can debate about Miami all you want, but Chicago is the team in the East. I advise you all to sig this next sentence. Phoenix, & Chicago will be battling it out in June for the Championship.
Chicago is playing old school team play, defense first basketball. Phoenix also plays team ball. If anyone here really wants Integrity to be put back into basketball, then you should want these two teams to meet in the finals, & they will. Mark it.
Team ball means stopping the opposition with all the tenacity of a mediocre high school girls' team? :huh:
Dallas and San Antonio have a much better style of team play, because they do this little thing called 'playing defense'. As far as Chicago going to the Finals ...you mean the team who hasn't been out of the first round since the Glory Days? That Chicago? They'll certainly be better, but I don't see why the entire conference implodes in the wake of the addition of an aging defensive center and P.J. Brown. :dry:
DarthRekal
10-19-2006, 04:31 PM
i fergot about the cavs!...silly me... the wiz look good too....
honestly i'm starting to see alot of parity around the league
thank the lakers for that!
STUPID MITCH!:cmad: :csad:
Immortalfire
10-19-2006, 04:40 PM
Sports Illustrated predicts Phoenix to top Miami in the Finals. I'm not real happy about that. I couldn't care less about them saying Phoenix will beat Miami. I just want them to stay away from all my teams after tabbing the Dolphins as a Super Bowl pick. Look at the carnage that's taken place since. :csad: Oddly enough, two years past I picked a finals of Suns/Heat. It turned out to be Spurs/Pistons.
'05 Super Bowl I picked Colts and Seahawks, got one of 'em right. The only sporting final I picked spot on was in '04, I picked the Lightning to win the Stanley Cup.
Mister J
10-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Josh Howard Gets His Money; 4Y/40M+ (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2632299)
The Dallas Mavericks and Josh Howard on Thursday reached agreement on a four-year contract extension believed to be worth in excess of $40 million, team sources told ESPN.com.
The Mavericks and Howard were facing an Oct. 31 deadline to agree on an extension and prevent Howard from becoming a restricted free agent in July.
The new contract won't kick in until next season, with Howard scheduled to earn $1.7 million in the final year of his rookie contract.
Howard, who was eligible for a five-year extension, admitted in recent days he was "disappointed" with the slow pace of negotiations but also told ESPN.com earlier this month that he hadn't abandoned hope of securing a new deal before the Halloween buzzer.
"You never know," Howard said with a smile on Oct. 7.
It's believed the Mavericks, sensing the issue might linger with Howard all season, increased their offer in recent days to make it clear to the swingman how much they value him.
Howard has been Dallas' best player in training camp, showing little outward sign of being distracted by his contractual situation, but the absence of an extension before the regular season could easily have been perceived as another slight for a player who slipped to No. 29 in the 2003 draft.
Reaching terms with Howard means Mavericks owner Mark Cuban will have awarded new contracts to four of the biggest names in the organization since the Mavericks made their first trip to the NBA Finals in June: Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, coach Avery Johnson and Howard.
Cubes and his checkbook strike again. He's done well to shore up Dallas' nucleus.
Ghostvirus
10-19-2006, 04:45 PM
Team ball means stopping the opposition with all the tenacity of a mediocre high school girls' team? :huh:
Dallas and San Antonio have a much better style of team play, because they do this little thing called 'playing defense'. As far as Chicago going to the Finals ...you mean the team who hasn't been out of the first round since the Glory Days? That Chicago? They'll certainly be better, but I don't see why the entire conference implodes in the wake of the addition of an aging defensive center and P.J. Brown. :dry:
Can say with absolute certainty that you didn't get a little frightened last year. Watching Chicago & Miami in the first round. I would venture to guess you can't.
When that series started I thought to myself. Well if Chicago can pull out just one game I will be happy. By the end of the series there was no doubt in my mind that Chicago was a center position away from Beating Miami.
I won't totally disagree with you on Phoenix they have alot of Weakness. Phoenix is more of a hope, but Chicago will be in the finals this year. I don't know if they will win. There are alot fo Young guys on that team, but they will be there.
The reason I was routing for Miami last year (after they beat my team) was because I really felt Shaq was running out of Desiel, & that this was his last shot. If Miami does make if back then it will be mostly luck.
There offense is there biggest weakness but if they make the trade Maggette for Deng then ill put in my sig:o
That is the beauty of this team. If you can stop the other team from scoring you don't have to score that much. I think you are going to see alot of games from Chicago where they are down at the half, & come back to win in the second half. Scoring is not as important to them as defense.
Mister J
10-19-2006, 05:01 PM
The only trepidation I had in the Heat/Bulls series was wondering when Miami would have all of their players available and Chicago would stop shooting 'lights out'. Coincidentally, those both happened in Game 5 which (along with Game 6) was a beatdown. OK, let's say they're missing a center. What's that accomplish? Ben (whose rebounds and blocks have decreased in each of the last 4 years) had Shaq in single coverage and Shaq put up 21.7/10.5 on him. What am I missing in terms of differences? Oh yeah, P.J. Brown. :dry:
Nobody makes an ascension from First Round bouncing to Title celebration in a year. There'll have to be some progression and growth as a team. Anyone who wants to see a Chicago championship this year would be better off watching the NFL or queuing up a copy of Learning to Fly (http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Fly-Champion-Chicago-Championship/dp/630533823X)
You all can debate about Miami all you want, but Chicago is the team in the East. I advise you all to sig this next sentence. Phoenix, & Chicago will be battling it out in June for the Championship.
Chicago is playing old school team play, defense first basketball. Phoenix also plays team ball. If anyone here really wants Integrity to be put back into basketball, then you should want these two teams to meet in the finals, & they will. Mark it.
Umm..
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Not gonna happen. Bulls will NOT make the finals.
That is the beauty of this team. If you can stop the other team from scoring you don't have to score that much. I think you are going to see alot of games from Chicago where they are down at the half, & come back to win in the second half. Scoring is not as important to them as defense.
There defense will be very good but I never seen Championship team without at least 20pt plus scorer. Yea you might say the pistons but the Pistons were a good offensive team you had Billlups, Hamilton, R-Wallace that can give you 20pt any given night. Bulls have none of that. I think the Bulls are just one move away from really being title contenders.
Ghostvirus
10-19-2006, 05:43 PM
MIster J, you are cool & all, but you are way underestimating what Chicago is bringing this season. Scoring is not everything. Chicago could only average 10 points a game this season, but if they hold everyone else to 9 points, then they win. Let me throw some statski's at cha.
Sat 22 @ Miami First Round L 106 - 111 0-1 B. Gordon 35 A. Nocioni 16
In this game only lost by 5. Big Ben would have made a difference here. He would have freed up more people to get to the basket.
Mon 24 @ Miami First Round L 108 - 115 0-2 A. Nocioni 30 T. Chandler 9
Again losing by a small margin. A defensive center would have made a huge difference in how this game turned out.
Thu 27 Miami First Round W 109 - 90 1-2 B. Gordon 24 A. Nocioni 9
19 points. How does a team with no super star win by 19 points? Tenaciousness! That will be the word for the Bulls this season. They do not stop until the game is over. I am sure you are thinking. Well one game winning by that much is just a fluke well..
Sun 16 @ Miami W 117 - 93 39-41 L. Deng 26 A. Nocioni 8
Sun 30 Miami First Round W 93 - 87 2-2 A. Nocioni 24 A. Nocioni 7
Again another win. I also notice something interesting. Nocioni is quite the presence in this series. I forgot about that. Not to mention Deng, Kirk, Gordon. All these guys are going to have much more room to do what they do best because of Ben's inside presence.
You can deny it all you want, but by the end of this season. Everyone will have to respect the Bulls again, & from the looks of it the Bears as well. I advise everyone to hang on. 2007 is going to be Windy! Who knows maybe even the Cubs will get a piece.
Ben Urich
10-19-2006, 05:46 PM
2007 is going to be Windy!
Because the Bulls are going to blow. :o
Ghostvirus
10-19-2006, 05:52 PM
I suppose it is debatable about them Winning the title, but they are most definately not going to blow!
DarthRekal
10-20-2006, 10:39 AM
J did you watch the game?????
farmar was on POINT again..i love this cat..i think he should start over smush..... he has energy...excellent court vision and already pretty good decision making...
the last play he was fouled...... but he did hold the ball too long
our scrubs almost beat the clips.... imagine when mamba comes back...
and the REAL CLIPS played the majority of the time...
god i hate that pinnock guy:cmad:
J did you watch the game?????
farmar was on POINT again..i love this cat..i think he should start over smush..... he has energy...excellent court vision and already pretty good decision making...
the last play he was fouled...... but he did hold the ball too long
our scrubs almost beat the clips.... imagine when mamba comes back...
and the REAL CLIPS played the majority of the time...
god i hate that pinnock guy:cmad:
Two of the clips 5 starters werent even playing:confused: And its exhibition?!
DarthRekal
10-20-2006, 10:48 AM
4 of the lakers 5 starters werent even playin..and lamar had like 10 mins
most of the people that played last night wont even be on the squad come november.....
4 of the lakers 5 starters werent even playin..and lamar had like 10 mins
most of the people that played last night wont even be on the squad come november.....
Again its exhibition!
Ghostvirus
10-20-2006, 10:49 AM
farmar was on POINT again..i love this cat..i think he should start over smush..... he has energy...excellent court vision and already pretty good decision making...
He shows alot of potential. But he really showed how green he is when held that ball for way to long. He should have passed it off to a experienced player, but hey rookie mistake.
When The Adulterer... I mean Kobe comes back. Him, & Farmar could be quite a combo down the road.
DarthRekal
10-20-2006, 10:59 AM
He shows alot of potential. But he really showed how green he is when held that ball for way to long. He should have passed it off to a experienced player, but hey rookie mistake.
When The Adulterer... I mean Kobe comes back. Him, & Farmar could be quite a combo down the road.
i can take adulterer..at least you didnt say rapist..:woot:
thats what im sayin im hyped over this cat..but you right he did hold it too long ..not to say he shoulda passed it but start the play earlier so if he missed we could tip or something..
and NOFX i know its exhibition..thats the point..why did the clips play their starters SIGNIFICANT minutes... they WANTED to win...our scrubs almost beat them ..thats my point
and NOFX i know its exhibition..thats the point..why did the clips play their starters SIGNIFICANT minutes... they WANTED to win...our scrubs almost beat them ..thats my point
Because were getting ready for regular season! The Clips beat the Suns with most of starters playing bigs mins you didnt see me going oh **** the clips going to own the suns this season!
One thing I hated about the game was the new no-tolerance rule! Damn were going to get some breaking records when it comes to technical fouls!
Ghostvirus
10-20-2006, 11:30 AM
One thing I hated about the game was the new no-tolerance rule! Damn were going to get some breaking records when it comes to technical fouls!
Like Reggie said. "There is no way I could play this game now!". I kept thinking of people like Rasheed Wallace. He is so screwed this year! I really don't see this rule lasting even a whole seaseon. Same with the new ball.
Mister J
10-20-2006, 12:15 PM
MIster J, you are cool & all, but you are way underestimating what Chicago is bringing this season. Scoring is not everything. Chicago could only average 10 points a game this season, but if they hold everyone else to 9 points, then they win. Let me throw some statski's at cha.
You can deny it all you want, but by the end of this season. Everyone will have to respect the Bulls again, & from the looks of it the Bears as well. I advise everyone to hang on. 2007 is going to be Windy! Who knows maybe even the Cubs will get a piece.
It's all good. It's not that I don't respect Chicago, it's just that I think that's a HUGE jump for a team to make. I think there'll undoubtedly be some growing pains. They'll make noise, but I think they top out at the Conference Finals. I'll be the first to man up and say I was wrong otherwise. For me to believe the Bulls are Championship calibur, I'd to have to believe that the cast they have around Wallace is as good as/better than Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, 'Sheed & Co. I can't do that right now.
J did you watch the game?????
farmar was on POINT again..i love this cat..i think he should start over smush..... he has energy...excellent court vision and already pretty good decision making...
the last play he was fouled...... but he did hold the ball too long
our scrubs almost beat the clips.... imagine when mamba comes back...
and the REAL CLIPS played the majority of the time...
god i hate that pinnock guy:cmad:
Yeah, I saw Farmar and there's some reason to make noise about him. He doesn't carry himself like a rookie. I'd start him over Smush (who had a rough night from the floor) too. Maybe not immediately, but certainly at some point affter he got his feet wet. First off, I can't take somebody named 'Smush' seriously. Secondly, Smush went in the tank in the playoffs. If I had another option I'd look towards it. Third, if the Lakers are going to make some noise this year and have a half-court offense as a viable option to go to at times (like they hinted at in the playoffs), Farmar is going to have to learn to play the big minutes with Mamba. He's got too much talent to just ride the pine and be brought along slowly. Give the boy all he can handle; Toss his ass in there and see what takes. It's a long regular season. Better to try to get all your pieces ready for the real stuff rather than get surprised when guys don't show up during 'winning time' (that's what your boy Magic used to call it :up:).
That third quarter was ugly and I really didn't expect to see that much action out of Brand, Mobley and Lamar. Good stuff last night. Although, I want some Mamba action. It's been too long.
One thing I hated about the game was the new no-tolerance rule! Damn were going to get some breaking records when it comes to technical fouls!
There were some quick Tech's called. I hope they're overcompensating for meaningless preseason games, so guys err on the side of caution when the real thing kicks off. It's going to be a long season otherwise and yes, 'Sheed is all kinds of screwed.
Like Reggie said. "There is no way I could play this game now!". I kept thinking of people like Rasheed Wallace. He is so screwed this year! I really don't see this rule lasting even a whole seaseon. Same with the new ball.
That ball sucks, but players will get used to it if they have to. I can't wait for the first crunchtime moment, where that thing flies out of someone's hand because it's slippery and all hell breaks loose. Tell me the testing for the new ball consisted of more than Reggie, his sister and a few others playing having a shoot-around for 25 minutes or so.
DarthRekal
10-20-2006, 01:35 PM
Because were getting ready for regular season! The Clips beat the Suns with most of starters playing bigs mins you didnt see me going oh **** the clips going to own the suns this season!
that might not be far off though:woot:
but yeah the zero tolerance sucks ARSE!:cmad:
too many whistles
Ben Urich
10-20-2006, 01:40 PM
I think the new rules with technical fouls are designed to protect younger, inexperienced refs from the abuse that veterans like Dick Bavetta and Ken Mauer are used to.
I don't know if they'll actually accomplish that, though. It's going to make games a lot less interesting - come on, someone out there has to have bought a ticket to a Pistons or Trail Blazers game just to see fi 'Sheed would do anything. Not only that, they'll make the breaks in the action longer and more frequent, which will disrupt the flow of the game.
Even more absurd is the report that David Stern wants to ban players from stripping their warmup clothes at the scorer's table and wants to assess delay-of-game penalties for players who enter games without their jerseys tucked in.
What the ****? :huh:
Holy **** have you guys seen this dunk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGaHpexp2-4
Ok predict the first 10 reg games of your favorite teams!
Clippers!
Wed 1 at Phoenix 10:30 PM Lost
Thu 2 Denver 10:30 PM Win
Sat 4 Phoenix 10:30 PM Win
Mon 6 Portland 10:30 PM Win
Wed 8 Dallas 10:30 PM Win
Sun 12 NO/3:30 PM Win
Tue 14 at Utah 9:00 PM Lost
Sat 18 Philadelphia 10:30 PM Win
Tue 21 at LA Lakers Win
Wed 22 Seattle Win
8-2! not bad!
Whats yours?
Immortalfire
10-25-2006, 08:51 PM
Stern: Leave your guns at home. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ami3lZcByd.0O.u33KJzwY68vLYF?slug=ap-stern-guns&prov=ap&type=lgns
Players: Party pooper! :cmad:
Jerry
10-25-2006, 10:48 PM
It's all good. It's not that I don't respect Chicago, it's just that I think that's a HUGE jump for a team to make. I think there'll undoubtedly be some growing pains. They'll make noise, but I think they top out at the Conference Finals. I'll be the first to man up and say I was wrong otherwise. For me to believe the Bulls are Championship calibur, I'd to have to believe that the cast they have around Wallace is as good as/better than Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, 'Sheed & Co. I can't do that right now.
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Well the Bulls have been going through growing pains, since Jordan left really. And thats about 8 years now. The past two years under Scott Skiles they have done a lot of growing up. The one thing that people said they didn't have was a big guy, a good big center. They have him now. I wouldn't really call it a huge leap. If you remember in the playoffs last year out of all the teams the Heat played in the postseason, the Bulls gave them the most trouble. Even the games they won weren't by blowing them out. And the starting lineups for the Bulls you can pretty much throw out the window. Skiles uses everyone of his players, just about all of them are equally important to the team. 2 or 3 guys won't be carrying the team. Its not and it won't be like the Bulls of the 90s.
I said it last year, and I can feel comfortable saying it again before this season. If the other teams in the Eastern Conference play with the determination, will and heart like the Chicago Bulls do, it wouldn't be portrayed as the weaker conference.
Ghostvirus
10-26-2006, 04:10 AM
Well the Bulls have been going through growing pains, since Jordan left really. And thats about 8 years now. The past two years under Scott Skiles they have done a lot of growing up. The one thing that people said they didn't have was a big guy, a good big center. They have him now. I wouldn't really call it a huge leap. If you remember in the playoffs last year out of all the teams the Heat played in the postseason, the Bulls gave them the most trouble. Even the games they won weren't by blowing them out. And the starting lineups for the Bulls you can pretty much throw out the window. Skiles uses everyone of his players, just about all of them are equally important to the team. 2 or 3 guys won't be carrying the team. Its not and it won't be like the Bulls of the 90s.
I said it last year, and I can feel comfortable saying it again before this season. If the other teams in the Eastern Conference play with the determination, will and heart like the Chicago Bulls do, it wouldn't be portrayed as the weaker conference.
Exactly! I have been saying this for a while. The bulls are a unit of role players, that do not stop attacking. They are like a pack of wolves, & this year they shall feast upon the flesh of the innocent!
However watching Wade play last night has kind of scared me. I get Jordanesque tingles watching him. He really does seem capable of scoring when he wants. Not only that though he actually plays team ball as well! Unlike Iverson:whatever: Thankfully we won't have to wait long to see the Bulls, & Heat play. Can't wait until the opener. Game On!
DarthRekal
10-26-2006, 10:19 PM
OMG stop with the jordanesque:cmad: :whatever:
miner was jordanesque...
kobe was jordanesque...
now wade is jordanesque...
get off!
i dont like jordan..but there will only be one... wade i like him alot.... but he is nowhere near jordan ..he gets alot of calls thats the closest he gets...lets see with this new travelling and palming rules how many trips to the line he gets now...and shaq is a shell of himself...sorry j i know heat are your team...i fully expect them to valiantly defend their title...but i do think alot of the fire... the agendas have been fulfilled and the players we know as the glove...employee number 8.. the deisel and white chocolate will rear their ugly heads again... and the bulls and cavs wont implode like the pistons did....
on the flip side i do thinkthis season is WIDE open alot of teams can sneak in and surprise..its prime for the taking...there is no ONE team that looks INVINCEable.... so theres alot of hope for all...:woot:
on the flip side i do thinkthis season is WIDE open alot of teams can sneak in and surprise..its prime for the taking...there is no ONE team that looks INVINCEable.... so theres alot of hope for all...:woot:
yup.
Mister J
10-26-2006, 11:28 PM
I can't stand allusions of any prominent player to one of the greats. There will never be a 'next' Jordan, Magic, Bird, Gervin, West or anybody else. Great players, past or present, stand out on their own.
I think the season is open. A few teams in the West outside of the usual suspects (SA, Dallas, Phoenix) have potential to turn some heads. The East is even more. Miami will have a moderate season and finish north of 50 wins, but (like last year) they won't truly step on the gas until the playoffs (I trust Riles to keep the ship right). Detroit, Cleveland and Chicago will be in the top half too and how it all shakes out will be interesting. I want to see what Orlando, Washington, Houston and both LA squads are gonna do. It's gonna be a good run this year.
DarthRekal
10-26-2006, 11:42 PM
oh most def i agree... i fergot about houston...they look pretty good on paper..... one cannot say that the west is the most dominant conference anymore... granted theres a few more teams that will have better records but the cream of the east looks to be astounding... i think riles will keep the heat focused...you think wade after he has been playin nonstop all year has that much gas left....?????
i cant wait for this season:wow:
Mister J
10-27-2006, 12:38 AM
Wade said the other day that he's tired; that his legs aren't fully rested. It's a long season though and he can pace his self until he's there. He can take a page out of Shaq's book and coast for a bit.
On a slightly related note, I'm looking for something more out of 'Toine this year. (Wow, that sounds weird when I think about it).
I'd still give the West the nod in terms of the better conference. Of course, all that could change depending on how things shake out.
Ghostvirus
10-27-2006, 03:47 AM
I didn't mean to make you all think that I was Comparing Wade to Jordan. There is no comparison. Jordan is that man. Always will be, but it I just meant that watching Wade stirs up familiar memories is all.
Erundur
10-27-2006, 06:34 AM
Go Wizards, hopefully there D will be better this year :(:up:
LastSunrise1981
10-27-2006, 08:35 AM
Did anyone hear Tony Parker guaranteeing that the Spurs will win the championship this season?
I'm not saying it won't and can't happen, but I think pretty much every team has the Spurs figured out already. I'd say the new teams to watch out for in the West is the Kings, Lakers, Rockets, Suns(obviously), and Dallas.
I believe Dallas will make it again this season, however, it's not going to be easy as it's ANOTHER 82 game season for them. Should be interesting.
DarthRekal
10-27-2006, 11:01 AM
andrew bynum!:wow: :woot:
The Riddler
10-27-2006, 11:23 PM
oh most def i agree... i fergot about houston...they look pretty good on paper..... one cannot say that the west is the most dominant conference anymore... granted theres a few more teams that will have better records but the cream of the east looks to be astounding... i think riles will keep the heat focused...you think wade after he has been playin nonstop all year has that much gas left....?????
i cant wait for this season:wow:
actually, you still can.
no team in the east, imo, can beat the mavs, spurs, rockets, suns, clippers besides the heat or pistons in a 7 game series.
The Riddler
10-27-2006, 11:26 PM
rockets are the nba's x-factor.
DarthRekal
10-28-2006, 03:29 AM
actually, you still can.
no team in the east, imo, can beat the mavs, spurs, rockets, suns, clippers besides the heat or pistons in a 7 game series.
thats a little over exaggerating dont you think? amare doesnt like the monster he was and the suns were pushed to the brink by both LA teams... and the clips gotta love them but theyre the clips if they are as good as last year i would be happy but surprised as well... the mavs shown their capable of folding and the spurs lets not go there ..they are our strongest representative..but lets just say one word...soft...
you are underestimated lebron and the bulls the east i think is also more physical....
Chris Kaman has signed a five-year, $52.5 million contract extension with the Los Angeles Clippers, according to source with knowledge of the negotiations.
The extension, which was agreed to and signed late Friday night, takes effect for the 2007-08 season and includes incentive clauses that could bring it to $55 million.
And it also includes a "trade kicker" that would give the center a 15 percent raise -- a maximum value of $7.5 million -- if he were dealt to another team. For Kaman, that's insurance he'll be staying in L.A., or at worst, compensated nicely if he's ever dealt.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2641609
Now they just need to extend dunleavy.
DarthRekal
10-29-2006, 09:10 PM
i still think kaman was being a little baby ..sure he had a point but if he was about the team...but maybe thats just me....
i think they will extend dinleavy .. sterling will get hanged if he doesnt
48hrs and counting...lets do this!
Isn't Kaman from Western Michigan University?
I think he is.
Isn't Kaman from Western Michigan University?
I think he is.
Central Michigan.
i still think kaman was being a little baby ..sure he had a point but if he was about the team...but maybe thats just me....
i think they will extend dinleavy .. sterling will get hanged if he doesnt
48hrs and counting...lets do this!
Im sooo glad they extended him I didnt want to wait next summer where teams(knicks) can offer Kaman a Max Contract.
Barring injury, third-year point guard Shaun Livingston is expected to start ahead of Sam Cassell, who is beginning his 14th season.
Although Cassell was slowed because of a strained left calf in the exhibition season, the move would be based on Livingston's strong play to this point.
Livingston has been the Clippers' point guard of the future since he was selected out of high school with the fourth overall pick in the 2004 draft, and it appears the future has arrived.
"Shaun has been great," All-Star power forward Elton Brand said Sunday after practice. "His passing, the way he's running the team, his post-up game … he's just exuding that confidence every day."
Cassell played in only three of eight exhibition games because of his calf injury, and the team training staff might instruct Coach Mike Dunleavy to limit Cassell's minutes in the opener.
With Cassell sidelined last season because of an injury, Livingston started and had 12 points and 13 assists with one turnover and seven rebounds in a 119-105 victory over the Suns. Livingston also led the team's strong effort on defense.
"I haven't decided what our starting lineup is going to be against Phoenix," Dunleavy said. "But I'm comfortable playing Shaun any amount of minutes."
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Quote:
When Bryant first showed up in Los Angeles, fresh out of high school, it didn't take West long to see where his mindset was.
"He thought he was the best player in the league," West said. "The one thing that has made Kobe very unique is you rarely see a kid with his kind of incredible dedication. With veteran players, he'd just want to maul them everyday, where most kids, particularly young kids, would defer to them. He would not."
Along those lines, West said there are times when Gay is going to have to break from his character and become more selfish and look to take over games. An example was in the Grizzlies 112-89 preseason loss at Orlando, West was on hand as Gay scored nine points, but took just six shots.
"You'd like to see him busier," West said. "Frankly, they had guys guarding him that couldn't guard him. He's just one of those very unselfish kids and some nights when things aren't going well for you, especially in an exhibition game, you'd like to see those kids step up there and shoot a lot of shots that other people have a difficult time getting."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-cliprep30oct30,1,437279.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true
Ultimate_Superman
10-30-2006, 12:20 PM
Well this year I expect the Wizards to go all the way and for the LA Bryants to do poor once again.
I just saw a D-Wade commercial...
...I want to shoot him in the head with a BB gun :csad:
Ghostvirus
10-30-2006, 03:58 PM
WTF!?!? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6119642)
Would some one please give all the men in America back there balls. The crowd is supposed to f***ing heckle! That is what they do!! AHHH!!! Apperantly Motumbo can block shots. Just not instults. Pansy!!!:cmad: :whatever:
LastSunrise1981
10-30-2006, 04:44 PM
WTF!?!? (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6119642)
Would some one please give all the men in America back there balls. The crowd is supposed to f***ing heckle! That is what they do!! AHHH!!! Apperantly Motumbo can block shots. Just not instults. Pansy!!!:cmad: :whatever:
Yeah, but racism is wrong. If that fan is calling Mutumbo the b word and other racial slurs, Mutumbo had every right to confront him and punk him out.
The Clippers rank first in the NBA in new season tickets sold, and are among the top teams in renewals and total season tickets, according to the league.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-cliprep30oct30,0,5331386.story?coll=la-home-sports
DarthRekal
10-30-2006, 06:47 PM
Well this year I expect the Wizards to go all the way and for the LA Bryants to do poor once again.
poor? ahahahaha we missed the playoffs what twice in the last twenty yrs..
its a small miracle when the wiz get in :woot:
LA BRYANTS..FTW!:yay:
LastSunrise1981
10-30-2006, 07:28 PM
Apparently the prediction is that the Mavs will face the Cavs in the 2007 NBA Finals.
I do, however, believe the Mavs will win the West and go to the Finals again in the end. I think it'll be a rematch between the Mavs and Heat for 2007.
Ben Urich
10-30-2006, 07:35 PM
I hope Kobe Bryant dies in a plane crash. :up:
Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh.
I hope he suffers a career-ending injury. :up:
LastSunrise1981
10-30-2006, 07:37 PM
I hope Kobe Bryant dies in a plane crash. :up:
Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh.
I hope he suffers a career-ending injury. :up:
Both are very harsh man. But you're being sarcastic I assume? :yay: :cwink: :oldrazz:
Ben Urich
10-30-2006, 07:38 PM
Both are very harsh man. But you're being sarcastic I assume? :yay: :cwink: :oldrazz:
No. I seriously hate the guy.
Well the rookie rankings are out!
1. Marcus Williams, G, New Jersey
The Nets have been seeking a backup point guard who can maintain the pace when Jason Kidd takes a seat. Williams fell into their laps at No. 22 at he's exactly what they've been looking for.
2. Rajon Rondo, G, Boston
Rondo put up strong numbers across the board, most impressive might be his 4.33 assist/turnover ratio, leading all rookies and tied for third across the league.
3. Brandon Roy, G, Portland
Roy started seven of the Blazers' eight games in the preseason and led all rookies in minutes, solidifying his status as the favorite to win Rookie of the Year honors.
4. Steve Novak, F, Houston
This guy can shoot and could be a perfect complementary player for Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady, as long as his defensive deficiences aren't bad enough that Jeff Van Gundy is willing to give him the burn.
5. Rudy Gay, F, Memphis
With Pau Gasol out, Gay will be asked to provide the Grizzlies with some scoring punch. Other than Roy, he's the only rookie to start more than half (five of eight) of his team's games in the preseason.
6. Paul Millsap, F, Utah
Millsap not only led the rookies in rebounds for the preseason. He was sixth best board man among all qualified players and second in rebounds per 48 minutes.
7. Tyrus Thomas, F, Chicago
Thomas had some impressive moments in the preseason, but Scott Skiles is not sure the rookie is ready for the NBA, expressing concern about the pace that Thomas plays, which is interestingly "too slow."
8. Shelden Williams, F, Atlanta
After Marvin Williams broke his hand, Shelden Williams started the final game of the preseaon for the Hawks. He looks to be a force on the boards, picking up one of four rookie double-doubles this preseason.
9. Adam Morrison, F, Charlotte
Morrison struggled with his shot a bit, but he did have a couple of strong games. He'll probably start the season coming off the bench, but he will be asked to carry a heavier load than most rookies.
10. Alexander Johnson, F, Memphis
Johnson will get opportunities to play with Pau Gasol out. He has shown that he can be an active body down low, something the Grizzlies will need to stay afloat until their All-Star returns.
http://www.nba.com/rookies/rankings.html
No love for Maurice Ager, Paul Davis, or Shannon Brown :huh:
:down
The Riddler
10-30-2006, 11:01 PM
i agree with steve novak's placement on the list.
he's already the best pure shooter in the nba.
i agree with steve novak's placement on the list.
he's already the best pure shooter in the nba.
That means nothing to Van Gundy if he cant play D!
The Riddler
10-30-2006, 11:02 PM
I hope Kobe Bryant dies in a plane crash. :up:
Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh.
I hope he suffers a career-ending injury. :up:
why would you want arguably the most talented scorer in league history to get injured?
kobe isn't better than jordan overall, but as a scorer, his shooting, both inside and outside, are better than jordan.
The Riddler
10-30-2006, 11:04 PM
That means nothing to Van Gundy if he cant play D!
yeah, well he needs to bulk up and improve defensively.
but just spreading the floor and providing lights out shooting is almost reason enough to start him.
rumor is that he is under consdieration for starting...
Mister J
10-30-2006, 11:32 PM
Knicks Waive Veteran Rose From Crowded Backcourt (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2643257)
NEW YORK -- Jalen Rose was waived Monday by the New York Knicks, leaving their roster one below the regular-season maximum of 15.
The 12-year NBA veteran, who was scheduled to earn $16.9 million in the final season of his contract, will receive about $14.5 million under terms of the buyout, ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan has learned.
The 33-year-old Rose averaged 12.7 points in 26 games for the Knicks last season after being acquired in a February trade with the Toronto Raptors. But there didn't appear to be a place for him this season after New York signed swingman Jared Jeffries over the summer and drafted Renaldo Balkman with its first pick.
Rose was a nonfactor in the preseason, playing in only four games and going scoreless in 31 minutes.
With Jeffries hurt, Quentin Richardson will likely start at small forward, with Balkman backing him up. New York opens the regular season at Memphis on Wednesday.
Rose becomes the second New York player with an expensive, expiring contract to leave during the preseason. The Knicks previously waived forward Maurice Taylor, who has since joined the Sacramento Kings.
So Rose gets the boot like Maurice Taylor did. Somebody remind who it was that signed these poorly-fitting pieces at exorbitant prices. Oh yeah, it was the same guy whose now the coach. God, this is going to be fun to watch.
Knicks Waive Veteran Rose From Crowded Backcourt (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2643257)
So Rose gets the boot like Maurice Taylor did. Somebody remind who it was that signed these poorly-fitting pieces at exorbitant prices. Oh yeah, it was the same guy whose now the coach. God, this is going to be fun to watch.
I hope the Clips get him!
DarthRekal
10-31-2006, 10:50 AM
I hope Kobe Bryant dies in a plane crash. :up:
Okay, maybe that's a bit harsh.
I hope he suffers a career-ending injury. :up:
pure class:up: ...
hater!:cmad: :whatever:
it's time gentleman i know i talk alot of mess...
but good luck all of yall..may the best team win...
LETS GO LAKERS!
Don't know about you, but this is my kind of season: W-I-D-E open. The Miami Heat start out in the top slot, as all defending champions do here, but few ESPN experts are picking them to repeat and even the league's general managers, in their annual survey, rated Miami as merely No. 3 among title favorites in 2007, behind San Antonio and Dallas.
The truth? Nobody knows. The Heat? The twin titans from Texas? Phoenix? After last spring's anything-can-happen playoffs, you can make a passionate argument for any of those teams winning it all ... and throw in Detroit, Chicago and Cleveland from the Central if you really want to get wild.
All of which ranks as a beautiful thing in the eyes of the committee. I've never understood what was so compelling about the Bulls winning six titles in an eight-season span. Isn't it better this way, when so many teams have legit championship hopes and so many outcomes are possible?
That's just one more topic for debate as you peruse the opening night edition of ESPN.com's NBA Power Rankings, which have moved to their usual Monday slot and will continue weekly through the regular season.
2006-07 Power Rankings: Preseason
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Heat 52-30 Like we said, this is where defending champs always start. Not that my Heat really care. They could go 41-41 and what, really, could the committee say to hurt them?
2 (2) Mavericks 60-22 Not since Detroit in 1989 has the losing team in the NBA Finals recovered from the disappointment to win it all the following June. But I'm guessing Mavs don't know that.
3 (3) Spurs 63-19 I'm sure they'll be as good as ever, but I can't subscribe to the ''Spurs always win in odd years'' theory. I know about '99, '03 and '05, but how do you explain 2001?
4 (4) Suns 54-28 Amare's limitations are not the problem. The bigger problem is still the West: Suns probably have to beat Mavs and Spurs just to get to the Finals.
5 (5) Pistons 64-18 As if they didn't have enough to do already, after last spring's unraveling, now those Big Ben-less Pistons have to lift Motown out of its World Series gloom.
6 (6) Bulls 41-41 No team in the East is deeper and no team in the league is better defensively. Which is another way of saying that the first 50-win season since MJ's retirement beckons.
7 (8) Clippers 47-35 Now the team needs to take a cue from Kaman's new contract figure and win at least 50 games. Clips have never been able to say this, but nothing less is acceptable.
8 (7) Cavaliers 50-32 Experience might make them a better playoff bet than Chicago, but Bulls' superior defense and depth tells me Cavs are looking at the tougher regular season.
9 (10) Hornets 38-44 I'm telling you right now. Even with Amare and Dajuan Wagner in play, Peja would be the league's Comeback Player of the Year if the award existed. You'll see.
10 (13) Warriors 34-48 I'm not budging from my Nellie Playoff Guarantee ... but Warriors, just to be safe, better capitalize on an early gift that has them playing 13 of 17 at home to start.
11 (11) Nets 49-33 Vinsanity is playing for a new contract, yes, but the best thing going here right now is their division. Luckily for Nets, they couldn't lose the Titanic if they tried.
12 (9) Rockets 34-48 Can they stay healthy? Can they live up to the runaway, elite-team expectations even if they do? Two legit questions facing Rockets after a bumpy preseason.
13 (14) Nuggets 44-38 It's a weak division, true, but Nuggets won't run unopposed in the NW. Their margin of error is slim if Utah is really as dangerous as some scouts keep telling me.
14 (15) Jazz 41-41 Someone needs to investigate this further: Are Jazz doomed to injuries now because Stock and Malone so consistently avoided them? This season should tell us.
15 (18) Wizards 42-40 There's plenty of time to assess Washington's place in the East pecking order. First things first: Isn't Captain Quirk a better nickname for Arenas than Agent Zero?
16 (19) Magic 36-46 Can't believe it's been a decade since Shaq bolted. But the natives are finally giddy again with Dwight and Darko filling that crater-sized void Shaq left behind.
17 (16) Pacers 41-41 Artest is a (painful) memory, but the same question marks linger: Can Pacers forge the chemistry and find the locker room leadership they still lack?
18 (17) Bucks 40-42 I'm not sure they can match last season's 17-11 start -- pretty sure they won't, actually -- but getting Bogut back so early means it's already a good start.
19 (12) Lakers 45-37 With Kobe's camp participation limited, Phil participating even less and Kwame lost to injury, Lakers are well on their way to filling their Hollywood drama requirement.
20 (20) Timberwolves 33-49 Who do you believe? The unnamed GM who picked Wolves to win it all in a league survey? Or ESPN's 10 Dime participants, none of whom has Minny in the playoffs?
21 (24) Raptors 27-55 It's safe to say Raps won't match their exhibition record by starting 7-1, not with nine new players. But they won't repeat last season's 0-9 nightmare, either.
22 (21) Kings 44-38 Muss himself said earlier this month that a good start was crucial. After the new coach's travails and Bibby's thumb injury, is a good start even possible?
23 (23) Grizzlies 49-33 Why such despair over one injury? Because even if Pau is back ahead of schedule in December, it's not like he'll instantly have his timing and sharpness.
24 (22) Celtics 33-49 Dedicating the season to Red was the only appropriate response. Now we'll see if these Celts, with five rotation players 21 or younger, can handle that responsibility.
25 (25) Knicks 23-59 Isiah's recent rant against our own Greg Anthony suggests that pressure is getting to him now -- before a game has even been played -- more than it ever did as a player.
26 (29) 76ers 38-44 Pains me to point this out, since I'm a bigger Iverson sympathizer with each passing year, but if KG can miss the playoffs twice in a row, AI's team certainly can.
27 (26) SuperSonics 35-47 Swift doesn't make it to opening night and Wally Walker departs way too late, after years of damaging decisions. It's never been tougher to be a Sonics fan.
28 (27) Hawks 26-56 Really didn't want to start the season dredging up the whole Chris Paul saga, but it's hard to ignore it when Marvin Williams isn't even available to try closing the gap.
29 (28) Bobcats 26-56 Since mid-September, MJ has seen more of the British Isles (Ryder Cup and a Brand Jordan tour stop in London) than Bobcats. That would bother me.
30 (30) Trail Blazers 21-61 Will Blazers win enough games to make Brandon Roy a viable Rookie of the Year candidate? Hard to see how, putting a crimp in that catchy Roy For ROY campaign.
DarthRekal
10-31-2006, 01:30 PM
obviously they are not going off of preseason..understandable...
but the potential is still there for the lakers....:woot:
19th???:cmad: :csad: :cmad:
The Pistons are interesting in signing Jalen Rose.
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 02:45 PM
why would you want arguably the most talented scorer in league history to get injured?
kobe isn't better than jordan overall, but as a scorer, his shooting, both inside and outside, are better than jordan.
Because he's a smarmy, selfish, egocentric douchebag who should have been aborted. :down
Knicks Waive Veteran Rose From Crowded Backcourt (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2643257)
So Rose gets the boot like Maurice Taylor did. Somebody remind who it was that signed these poorly-fitting pieces at exorbitant prices. Oh yeah, it was the same guy whose now the coach. God, this is going to be fun to watch.
Isaiah would rather have Steve Francis than Jalen Rose? :huh:
Erundur
10-31-2006, 03:54 PM
15 (18) Wizards 42-40 There's plenty of time to assess Washington's place in the East pecking order. First things first: Isn't Captain Quirk a better nickname for Arenas than Agent Zero?
WTF? :confused:
Equint77
10-31-2006, 04:32 PM
i have no idea what to expect...I just figure it can't be worse than last year....
I miss ewing. :(
Mister J
10-31-2006, 07:26 PM
Those are some big ass rings Miami just got. Those things would give a normal-sized man a cramp.
1 (1) Heat 52-30 Like we said, this is where defending champs always start. Not that my Heat really care. They could go 41-41 and what, really, could the committee say to hurt them?
I think they couldn't care less. Miami will look disinterested again at times this season, but still win the division and gear it up around April. I just want everybody to stay healthy and maybe get something from Dorrell Wright or some other surprise outside of the core guys.
There is no way the Heat will repeat.
Especially with the ass-whoopin the Bulls are giving them!!! :wow:
Mister J
10-31-2006, 08:25 PM
There is no way the Heat will repeat.
I heard it all last year. Talk to me in April, when the real stuff starts.
Especially with the ass-whoopin the Bulls are giving them!!! :wow:
I expected them to come out flat, but it is a bit uglier than unexpected. On the other hand, they got blown out by higher-calibur teams throughout last season. *shrugs*
The Heat have the same team from last year. No huge/significant changes. Other teams have gotten stronger. The Suns are freakin' dangerous this year.
I'm not trying to turn into a GR87-ish person, but watch out for the Pistons. Critics are putting them on the backburner, and no one is giving them a chance. Look what happened to the Lakers in '04.
The Riddler
10-31-2006, 08:32 PM
I expected them to come out flat, but it is a bit uglier than unexpected. On the other hand, they got blown out by higher-calibur teams throughout last season. *shrugs*
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH.
heat will drop off big time this year, but i never knew they'd only manage 30 points in two quarters on opening night...
The Riddler
10-31-2006, 08:33 PM
The Heat have the same team from last year. No huge/significant changes. Other teams have gotten stronger. The Suns are freakin' dangerous this year.
I'm not trying to turn into a GR87-ish person, but watch out for the Pistons. Critics are putting them on the backburner, and no one is giving them a chance. Look what happened to the Lakers in '04.
suns are very dangerous.
houston is very dangerous.
clippers are dangerous.
utah is dangerous.
you have so many contenders out west, but only detroit, miami, cleveland and chicago out east.
So far, a very crappy opening by the defending champs :o
Mister J
10-31-2006, 08:43 PM
I'll have to be the last Doubting Thomas around on the Suns. I refuse to put any championship stock in a team that thinks of defense as an afterthought.
I haven't seen anyone flat out disrespect Detroit. Most of the outlets I've seen have them winning the division and contending in the conference (though not many tab them for a title). The knocks that I've heard against them are inquiries asking what type of team they'll be after losing Wallace, even with the other core guys still there. That's a fair question. The last time we saw Detroit they were imploding on defense. Now the centerpiece of that hallmark defense they used to compete at a championship level is wearing another uniform and they're talking of playing more up tempo offense. It makes sense that people wanna see 'this' Detroit before giving them the early praise they've received in prior seasons. I'd have rather seen them on TV tonight instead of Miami.
Here's another award the experts forgot:
BEST ACTOR
Dwayne Wade, Miami Heat, for his performance in the 2006 NBA Finals.
Mister J
10-31-2006, 08:55 PM
Yeah, that award was a close call. Whoever impersonated the Detroit Pistons in last year's playoffs got some serious consideration.
LOL... NOT. :cmad:
That was a case of hunger. The Pistons just thought they could slack off and still win it all, and the Heat proved them wrong.
Mister J
10-31-2006, 09:00 PM
I thought the close call against the Cavs would have been a wakeup call, but they looked lazy against Miami too.
That's the problem J, it SHOULD have woken them up. Especially after that amazing Game 7, I really thought they were back.
After going down 3-1 to the Heat, I really thought they could come back, but they would have had to play perfectly. Coming out in Game 5 and winning big-time, I thought the Pistons could do it, because the Heat sure as hell didn't want to come back to Detroit for Game 7.
Equint77
10-31-2006, 09:03 PM
LOL... NOT. :cmad:
That was a case of hunger. The Pistons just thought they could slack off and still win it all, and the Heat proved them wrong.
that's not a good attribute for a team to have.
especially in the playoffs....
Yeah, I know E, I know. It was really disappointing, when I knew it, and they just couldn't realize it.
Having the best record doesn't guarantee **** in the playoffs. Once late April hits, the record starts at 0-0 all over again.
Equint77
10-31-2006, 09:08 PM
Yeah, I know E, I know. It was really disappointing, when I knew it, and they just couldn't realize it.
Having the best record doesn't guarantee **** in the playoffs. Once late April hits, the record starts at 0-0 all over again.
i'm one of those who think the Pistons are gonna slip.... Flip Saunders wants to open up the offense to compensate for the slip in defense (which started last year and is even now more evident with Ben gone)...
The Riddler
10-31-2006, 09:41 PM
pistons, heat will both drop off this year.
Good lord, it's a 40-point Bulls lead.
Bulls 108, Heat 66 FINAL.
Wow, I really thought this would be, like, a 1-point win by either team. The worst opening loss by a defending champ by 27 points more than the 82 Lakers, who lost by 15 to Golden State.
Mister J
10-31-2006, 09:46 PM
Wow. A 42 point L. That's gotta be a defending champion record. I thought the Heat would drop it, but yowsers.
Between this and no Mamba tonight, it's quite the lackluster season debut.
Lackluster? More like extremely disappointing.
Refresh my memory... did the Lakers really get into the playoffs last year?
That is horrible that I can't remember. :(
Jerry
10-31-2006, 09:54 PM
Wow was that a ****ing Globetrotters game or what? Da Bulls DESTROYED the Washington Generals, I mean Miami Heat. Bulls may have the deepest team in the league. 50 points off the bench. Da Bulls a Bulls a Bulls a Bulls! Captain Kirk signs 5 year ext. with Bulls.
That came out of nowhere :dry:
Jerry
10-31-2006, 10:00 PM
Captain Kirk= Chicago Bulls team captain Kirk Hinrich. He signed a 5 year deal today with the Bulls.
I think I know who "Captain Kirk" would be, in an NBA thread, with a post referring to the Bulls.
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:09 PM
Go Pacers. :up:
Go Pacers. :up:
:o, sorry to hear that Ben.
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:11 PM
:o, sorry to hear that Ben.
Reggie Miller ftw. :up:
http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/m/miller_reggie/2000_0611lakers.jpg
And yes, I know he's retired.
EDIT: I hate that they got rid of those uniforms. The new ones, like most other uniforms in the NBA, are boring. :down
Tayshaun Prince, FTB.
(For the block!) Ownt.
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:13 PM
Hahaha, I ****ing hate the Pistons.
(I was a Magic fan.)
The only team I hate is the Heat.
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:18 PM
I don't really hate the Pistons anymore. :o
I will always hate the Los Angeles Lakers. And, although I have nothing against them now, I hated the Bulls when Jordan was around. ****er pushed Bryon Russell. :down
The Jazz won that series. :down
NEVER DISS MICHAEL JORDAN.
Never.
:down :o :mad: :cmad:
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:24 PM
****ing Antichrist, that guy. I have no respect for him :down
John Stockton and Karl Malone, however... :up:
I gotta give credit to Stockton for wearing those grape-smugglers.
Tangled Web
10-31-2006, 10:27 PM
Reggie Miller = good
MJ = Booo.
Reverse those two, and you have my opinion. :o
Ben Urich
10-31-2006, 10:31 PM
Reggie Miller = good
MJ = Booo.
I like you :up:
I'd love to stay and argue, but I gotta skip class tomorrow morning.
Good night everyone :up:
The Riddler
11-01-2006, 12:45 AM
hahahahahah.
i made so much money today.
lakers and bulls = $$$$$.
my impressions of the first 2 games:
-it's early, but the heat will decline; they are too old and not deep enough.
-bulls are VERY deep, and are extremely dangerous, especially in the east.
-suns are NOT real contenders; they have weak perimeter defense and a NONEXISTENT interior defense.
-amare can be back to 100% like he was when he was a rookie and that still won't make him a great player. he has no defense whatsoever, and he has little to no knowledge of the game. also, that's besides the point since he seems FAR from 100%.
-lakers will be better than expected this year; WILL make playoffs.
-andrew bynum is going to be a great player if he can continue to improve.
-jordan farmar is the truth.
Immortalfire
11-01-2006, 08:24 AM
Geesh, the Heat's championship rings are freakin massive :wow:
Season starts for my guys tonight..whoopee
http://www.secointernational1.com/seco2006/images/hawks_logo.jpg
Knicks season starts tonight :)............:dry:
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 09:28 AM
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/basketball/nba/10/31/heat.rings.ap/T1_1031_ceremony.jpg
:wow:
DarthRekal
11-01-2006, 10:43 AM
hahahahahah.
i made so much money today.
lakers and bulls = $$$$$.
my impressions of the first 2 games:
-it's early, but the heat will decline; they are too old and not deep enough.
-bulls are VERY deep, and are extremely dangerous, especially in the east.
-suns are NOT real contenders; they have weak perimeter defense and a NONEXISTENT interior defense.
-amare can be back to 100% like he was when he was a rookie and that still won't make him a great player. he has no defense whatsoever, and he has little to no knowledge of the game. also, that's besides the point since he seems FAR from 100%.
-lakers will be better than expected this year; WILL make playoffs.
-andrew bynum is going to be a great player if he can continue to improve.
-jordan farmar is the truth.
was that a GREAT NIGHT or what!:woot:
no mamba...no problem!...
andrew "the business" bynum!.... jordan farmar..mo evans ..and Lamar "drop 34 on them" Odom!...OMG..... hope this isnt a fluke... we will be contending for the pac division title this year if this keeps up......
i heart DA BULLS!:up:
p.s. J that was a record
Erundur
11-01-2006, 11:20 AM
The only team I hate is the Heat.
Agreed :up:
Wizards over Cavaliers tonight!
LastSunrise1981
11-01-2006, 11:44 AM
The Lakers proved that if you slow down the Suns and make them play a slower tempo the Suns fold quickly.
It was lovely watching the Heat get blown out by 42 points. Now, if only EVERY team would do that to them. :yay:
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 11:48 AM
I changed my avatar to commemorate the start of the NBA season. :up:
Knicks season starts tonight :)............:dry:
And thats where it ends...
Equint77
11-01-2006, 12:25 PM
lol... i don't get all the heat hate... they won the championship... let them live.
I stopped hating Miami and Riley years ago.... and I respect Dwayne Wade too much to even say anything mean.
Equint77
11-01-2006, 12:29 PM
And thats where it ends...
this from a guy who's team was a bottomfeeder for 20 plus years. :huh:
Sports is a cycle... only few teams have consistant success over the years. The Celtics went through it.. the Bulls...the Mavs... The Twolves.... The Clips.... they've all been at the bottom at one point or another and managed to gain respectability over time..
I have no idea where the Knicks are going... and more than anyone I wish I did... but I know for one thing.... whether they win 23 games again or manage to lose even more this year (if possible)... it's still not gonna change my feelings for them.
And that's real talk....
Jerry
11-01-2006, 02:48 PM
Currently the Bulls are leading their league in scoring and defense.....just like the Bears. god its a good day in Chicago.
this from a guy who's team was a bottomfeeder for 20 plus years. :huh:
Sports is a cycle... only few teams have consistant success over the years. The Celtics went through it.. the Bulls...the Mavs... The Twolves.... The Clips.... they've all been at the bottom at one point or another and managed to gain respectability over time..
I have no idea where the Knicks are going... and more than anyone I wish I did... but I know for one thing.... whether they win 23 games again or manage to lose even more this year (if possible)... it's still not gonna change my feelings for them.
And that's real talk....
You finally made a post that I can respect! Good luck with those knicks...
Equint77
11-01-2006, 02:59 PM
You finally made a post that I can respect! Good luck with those knicks...
Green Day can still go suck a deck.. :woot:
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 03:09 PM
The Magic play tonight.
I'm tempted to watch, even though I haven't given a damn about basketball since Reggie retired. :huh:
Dwight Howard ftw :up:
Green Day can still go suck a deck.. :woot:
As long as they dont sux dick! Unless it mines of course...
Equint77
11-01-2006, 03:18 PM
As long as they dont sux dick! Unless it mines of course...
it would be appropriate.. Billy Jo = BJ
****ing sick. :cmad:
Teh Pistons play tonight... against the Bucks at Detroit.
Pistons FTC (For The Championship!)
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 07:26 PM
The Magic lead the Bulls by 20 at the half. :wow: :huh:
So, by the transitive property, the Magic beat the Heat. :up:
Pistons down by 10 :csad: to the FREAKING BUCKS?!?!
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 08:07 PM
Hahahahaha the Bucks. :woot:
Immortalfire
11-01-2006, 08:45 PM
The season of suckage begins for my Hawks once again, sigh. Why do I put up with this?
The season of suckage begins for my Hawks once again, sigh. Why do I put up with this?
Your getting Greg Oden next year! WTF you gotta be complaining about???
The Riddler
11-01-2006, 09:26 PM
orlando magic look very good.
yao ming is by far the best center in the league.
he's in foul trouble, but he has 14 pts, 5 rebs in 11 minutes...
Now I'm starting to miss Ben. :mad:
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Dwight Howard is a ****ing monster. 27 points on 9/12 shooting, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks in 33 minutes.
The Magic shot 59% from the field. :wow:
If there's a bad spot, it's the turnovers. Jameer Nelson committed 5 and only dished 3 assists; clearly not his best effort. The Magic are young, so they are going to play sloppily at times, but they really need to do some growing up this season if they are to be taken seriously.
Now I'm starting to miss Ben. :mad:
I'm flattered. :heart:
No, Wallace wasn't a factor tonight. 4 points and 5 boards in nearly 30 minutes of playing time.
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 09:38 PM
Jesus effing God, Michael Redd went nuts. :wow:
37 points on 14/22 from the field?! Are you ****ing kidding me?
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Steve Francis fouled out after going 0-6 with 5 assists and 5 turnovers in 32 minutes. :woot::up:
Damn Clippers, Lakers and Lost are on right now:( WTF am I suppose to watch?:o
Mister J
11-01-2006, 09:52 PM
The Cavs are going to be a force if Larry Hughes can stay healthy. 27 pts. (11-15), 9 rebs, 5 asst. I didn't see the game, but I'd bet on his D contributing to Arenas' poor night from the field.
@ Dwight Howard: Damn. :wow:
Stringer
11-01-2006, 09:54 PM
What up guys?
stl's own Larry Hughes dominating tonight:up: He's looking good, hopefully he can stay healthy.
Ben Urich
11-01-2006, 09:58 PM
Q Richardson is having a monster game. 5/5 from 3-point range. :wow:
C'mon, Grizzlies!
EDIT: Carlos Boozer has 22 points and 18 rebounds at the beginning of the fourth quarter. :wow::wow:
Erundur
11-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Damn both the Bulls and Wizards lost tonight :down
Mister J
11-01-2006, 10:06 PM
Two techs and an ejection for 'Sheed tonight. I wonder if Vegas had odds on this.
Immortalfire
11-01-2006, 10:11 PM
Not long ago I chewed over ending my Hawks fandom, and pulling for someone else if/when I finally had it with 'em. I had always had a semi-following of the Spurs, mainly because David Robinson is my favorite player of all time. Then it might have been the Heat, because of being another southeast team.
I dunno what to do.
Jerry
11-01-2006, 10:12 PM
Its been a weird start of the NBA season.
I think with the Kobe injury helps the lakers, especially Odom!
The Riddler
11-01-2006, 10:43 PM
rockets look very sluggish.
battier played like crap and they missed 14 free throws.
yao is still unstoppable, but the rockets need to play a much tighter game for them to get far.
It's gonna be a rough year for Rasheed.
I blame it all on the new synthetic ball! :cmad:......:csad:
Ultimate_Superman
11-02-2006, 09:37 AM
The Wizards could have won last night but they gave the game away they let me down.
I'm watching SC right now, and EVERYONE they had on there, NBA players and coaches, hates the new ball.
This is gonna be an odd season.
Q Richardson is having a monster game. 5/5 from 3-point range. :wow:
C'mon, Grizzlies!
EDIT: Carlos Boozer has 22 points and 18 rebounds at the beginning of the fourth quarter. :wow::wow:
Knicks won and jesus what a way to start the season. That game never shouldve gone to OT tho. And Q Rich 31 and 9 :up:
DarthRekal
11-02-2006, 10:25 AM
i know it only two games in but i may never get a chance again...
BEST RECORD IN THE LEAGUE!...
ATOP THE PACIFIC DIVISION!:wow: :woot:
LAKERS LOOK GOOD!....
TURIAF...BYNUM...FARMAR... EVANS... WALTON...
ODOM!!!!!!!!! my boy!!!!!!!!
i have to admit i am a bit scared of mamba coming back..he might eff with the chemistry..but if he doesnt..... 82-0 BABY!..LOL
DarthRekal
11-02-2006, 03:58 PM
i got a good feeling about odom this year....all star baby!
Ben Urich
11-02-2006, 05:47 PM
I kinda want to feel one of the new balls (omfg lolz I said balls) to see what the big deal is about.
Mister J
11-02-2006, 08:53 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Odom does when Ol' Veinti-Cuatro comes back. I've think the Triangle is perfect for Lamar's game. He has to touch the ball often or he has a tendency to drift. There aren't a lot of meaningful touches when playing with The Artist Formerly Known as Ocho. LA does too much standing around and watching and needs to incorporate a more cooperative approach to their offense. That means the Deadly Viper is going to have to come off some shots for the greater good. They'll hit the ceiling a whole lot quicker with him gunning away for 35 every night. Lamar really should be kicking ass in that system. He can handle the ball, creates matchup problems, likes to post up and has good court vision. Big Chief Triangle is gonna have to find a way to make that happen (i.e., get Bean to get over himself).
i got a good feeling about odom this year....all star baby!
All I can say is, its about ****ing time!
DarthRekal, 82-0, eh?
I'll bet you on it :ninja:
Immortalfire
11-02-2006, 09:51 PM
Spurs win :up:
What a great game against the Clips/Nuggets! Tim Thomas was on fire!!! Cassel with 35!!! Who says he's slowing down!
DarthRekal
11-03-2006, 10:27 AM
sorry to burst your bubble NOFX... it was a good game by the clips..but without the refs "tight whistles" nuggs win that game...guarantee you melo makes a clutch shot......
farmerfran i was being fecetious(sp).....
i agree totally J... i said i am kinda scared of how mamba will incorporate himself with these guys..but if we get the mamba that we had the first four games of the PHOENIX series...LOOK OUT LEAGUE!:wow:
sorry to burst your bubble NOFX... it was a good game by the clips..but without the refs "tight whistles" nuggs win that game...guarantee you melo makes a clutch shot......
That game reminded of game 1 last year in the playoffs where Clips won by 1 and Melo had two chances to win the game but missed both times. No Melo has yet to be Clutch against the Clips!
DarthRekal
11-03-2006, 01:30 PM
That game reminded of game 1 last year in the playoffs where Clips won by 1 and Melo had two chances to win the game but missed both times. No Melo has yet to be Clutch against the Clips!
point taken :woot:
DarthRekal
11-03-2006, 04:17 PM
sonics tonight....
will kobe play???
how will the lakers gel???
another episode of the YOUNG and the LOSSless:woot:
Immortalfire
11-03-2006, 08:44 PM
Hawks beat Knicks :D
DarthRekal
11-03-2006, 10:12 PM
OMG!:wow:
lakers up by 20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:
mamba and the snakepit!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow::woot::yay:
watch out league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dang sonics comeback only up by twelve:cmad:
Immortalfire
11-03-2006, 10:14 PM
Mt. Mark Cuban will erupt soon. What a jackass. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ap_bl.MdR6vdUDvG_FfQFXe8vLYF?slug=aw-cuban110306&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Ghostvirus
11-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Bulls Lose Again!!!! Ahhh!!!! How The F**k Do You Beat The Champs By 40 Then Lose To The Magic, & Kings!!!!
WTF!!!:cmad:
DarthRekal
11-04-2006, 12:09 AM
ronny turiaf is a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!:wow:
:wow::wow::wow::wow::wow:
lamar for all star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
walton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
farmar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kobe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bynum!!!!!!!!!!!!
the road to 82-0 is still in tact!!!!!!!!!:woot:
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 12:10 AM
Wow.
Ronny Turiaf (who?) gets away with hacking both Chris Wilcox and Rashard Lewis under the basket on a key Seattle possesion. Unbelievable. :whatever:
I seriously hope the Lakers' plane crashes and burns. **** Kobe, **** Turiaf, **** Odom, **** all of those egocentric clowns. :down
DarthRekal
11-04-2006, 01:14 AM
LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3-0
dang mamba 23
odom 28
walton 20
beautiful baby....
wah wah ben .... go cry about the yanks:whatever:
LETS GO LAKERS!
LastSunrise1981
11-04-2006, 11:09 AM
LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3-0
dang mamba 23
odom 28
walton 20
beautiful baby....
wah wah ben .... go cry about the yanks:whatever:
LETS GO LAKERS!
Sounds like Kobe has actually grasped the team concept? Took him long enough.
LastSunrise1981
11-04-2006, 11:12 AM
Mt. Mark Cuban will erupt soon. What a jackass. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ap_bl.MdR6vdUDvG_FfQFXe8vLYF?slug=aw-cuban110306&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Hmm, we'll see if he can do it. However, I think the rule is stupid and since it pertains to all players I expect all players to be fined, suspended, and the same goes for owners and coaches.
Part of me feels that this is proof the league is fixed. Seriously, this is like a WWE feud between Cuban and Stern.
CrypticOne
11-04-2006, 11:37 AM
I opened my front door this morning to find that the Nuggets won there home opener. When I opened my newspaper to the Sports section, I was very dissapointed. The Nuggets lost in a really close game again. There is not really mush to say about it, just that the Nuggets need to think about what they are doing and step it up!
Mister J
11-04-2006, 11:41 AM
OK, if Mamba is going to start playing team ball, this is seriously not good. I thought Lamar was ready to step his game up for real coming off that last season in Miami and some Mamba co-op could make the Lakers one of those dangerous sleeper teams in an already loaded West.
Jalen Rose chose to sign with Phoenix. Just what the Suns need; another perimeter player. I hoped he'd come down to play with the Heatians, the allure of running and gunning without having to worry about defense is pretty strong. I still say Phoenix isn't doing anything but waiting to come up short in the playoffs ...again.
The Rasheed Wallace Rule is kicking ass this year. 'Sheed, Bibby and Melo have all been bounced from games. It's ridiculous. The League has babied refs as long as I've been watching games, but they finally gave them Similac and pacifiers this year. I don't like techs at all, but the old rule was fine; just T somebody for seriously crossing the line. Now it's just silly.
Season Games Technicals
2006-07 17 30
2005-06 20 11
2004-05 19 18
2003-04 18 12
2002-03 20 15
Adverse reactions to calls are a part of the game. Get over it. :whatever:
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 12:19 PM
wah wah ben .... go cry about the yanks:whatever:
Maybe the plane will crash into your grandma's house. :up:
DarthRekal
11-04-2006, 12:49 PM
OK, if Mamba is going to start playing team ball, this is seriously not good. I thought Lamar was ready to step his game up for real coming off that last season in Miami and some Mamba co-op could make the Lakers one of those dangerous sleeper teams in an already loaded West.
Jalen Rose chose to sign with Phoenix. Just what the Suns need; another perimeter player. I hoped he'd come down to play with the Heatians, the allure of running and gunning without having to worry about defense is pretty strong. I still say Phoenix isn't doing anything but waiting to come up short in the playoffs ...again.
The Rasheed Wallace Rule is kicking ass this year. 'Sheed, Bibby and Melo have all been bounced from games. It's ridiculous. The League has babied refs as long as I've been watching games, but they finally gave them Similac and pacifiers this year. I don't like techs at all, but the old rule was fine; just T somebody for seriously crossing the line. Now it's just silly.
Season Games Technicals
2006-07 17 30
2005-06 20 11
2004-05 19 18
2003-04 18 12
2002-03 20 15
Adverse reactions to calls are a part of the game. Get over it. :whatever:
good post:up:
the sheed rule is teh sux!:cmad:
games are longer ... the refs now feel they can call whatever they want... david stern is now omnipotent..we need to be calling for his head...:cmad:
especially when stars start disappearing
just what we need another scorer on the suns..damn!...bu i do think you're right j they will come up short...
and watch out for SHOWTIME version 2.0:woot:
ben urDICH.. i wont even dignify that with a response ..talk to me when you mature
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 01:23 PM
You're right, I shouldn't wish for the plane to crash into your grandma's house. Mybad.
Should be your house instead.
Equint77
11-04-2006, 01:53 PM
i hate that new zero tolerance rule... the refs are out of ****ing control calling T's on people who normally don't get technicals.
it also ****s up the flow of the game.
LastSunrise1981
11-04-2006, 02:47 PM
i hate that new zero tolerance rule... the refs are out of ****ing control calling T's on people who normally don't get technicals.
it also ****s up the flow of the game.
It's not going to last long. They have to understand that the game is emotional and the players are going to yell, scream, pout, and so forth if they feel they're being targeted or were called wrongly for a foul.
I believe it won't last the entire season, because players aren't going to be able to keep their cool, and it will most likely result in players fighting with each other if they can't vent their frustrations.
Equint77
11-04-2006, 02:51 PM
It's not going to last long. They have to understand that the game is emotional and the players are going to yell, scream, pout, and so forth if they feel they're being targeted or were called wrongly for a foul.
I believe it won't last the entire season, because players aren't going to be able to keep their cool, and it will most likely result in players fighting with each other if they can't vent their frustrations.
Kenny Smith made a good observation the other night... he said it's hypocritical to tell players not to react to calls...when the coach is telling them to show emotion during the game in form of intensity.
By the way... can anyone tell me what in the hell is wrong with Ernie Johnson? First he has that mound growing on his face last season and now he's completely bald.
If he's sick... shouldn't he be staying the **** home????
The Riddler
11-04-2006, 03:17 PM
Wow.
Ronny Turiaf (who?) gets away with hacking both Chris Wilcox and Rashard Lewis under the basket on a key Seattle possesion. Unbelievable. :whatever:
I seriously hope the Lakers' plane crashes and burns. **** Kobe, **** Turiaf, **** Odom, **** all of those egocentric clowns. :down
you're a moron.
the only playe who has an ego is kobe, and rightfully so.
lamar odom just had his young son die and i don't think has ever done anything to frown upon.
urich, your anti-laker comments are in poor taste and especially grating.
Equint77
11-04-2006, 03:47 PM
lol..... i love how plane crashes manage to find a place in the NBA thread.
By the way... can anyone tell me what in the hell is wrong with Ernie Johnson? First he has that mound growing on his face last season and now he's completely bald.
If he's sick... shouldn't he be staying the **** home????
LOL! I was like WTF he has Cancer too!:o
Equint77
11-04-2006, 03:49 PM
LOL! I was like WTF he has Cancer too!:o
he's starting to turn into gollum. :huh:
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 04:13 PM
lamar odom just had his young son die
Oh so sad, maybe I should root for the Lakers now. :whatever:
Tangled Web
11-04-2006, 04:15 PM
Jordan Famar is kicking ass with the Lakers.
I really love the Lights Out the Lakers do. Like the old days.
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 04:17 PM
I really love the Lights Out the Lakers do. Like the old days.
I'll give them that much. The court looked really cool last night. :up:
The refs' heads are growing. :o
Equint77
11-04-2006, 05:35 PM
after 60 years.... the refs are finally venting those years of fan, player and coach abuse.
**** those zebras.
Immortalfire
11-04-2006, 06:43 PM
http://www.polarbearrepublic.com/images/sasha/NBA/Celtics/newuniforms.jpg
Equint77
11-04-2006, 06:46 PM
I think those whores are what finally killed Red Aurbach.. :(
LastSunrise1981
11-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Jordan Famar is kicking ass with the Lakers.
I really love the Lights Out the Lakers do. Like the old days.
I was wondering what happened with those lights. At first I was thinking a power outage had happened.
How long does everyone think this "zero tolerance" rule is going to last in the NBA?
Finally a clipper game I can see on tv tonight! Clips Vs. Suns again!
I haven't been able to see teh Pistons yet.
Work Wednesday, then Borat on Friday.
DarthRekal
11-04-2006, 09:42 PM
Jordan Famar is kicking ass with the Lakers.
I really love the Lights Out the Lakers do. Like the old days.
hey tangled we finally agree on something ..i'm loving the FORUMesque ..lights out!:word:
i like the celtic girl on far right!:wow:
only thing i like about the celts(besides paul pierce)
Ben Urich
11-04-2006, 10:04 PM
How long does everyone think this "zero tolerance" rule is going to last in the NBA?
Not too long. Maybe another season or two. The Players' Association will complain and appeal and pressue the league to change the rule.
Pistons win again!!! YAY!!!
Now a four-game road trip.
Yea baby Clips win and approve 2-1 while the suns go down 1-3:D
The Riddler
11-05-2006, 12:39 AM
the rockets crush the mavs, improve to 1-1.
yao, as i have said all along, is by far the best center in the nba.
Tangled Web
11-05-2006, 01:45 AM
Watching the Clipper game vs. watching the Lakers the other night was crazy.
Staples is really really well lit. On ESPN classic you could see the Lakers from the Backtobacktoback era was in a very bright Staples. Then on the same network if you watch a game with Kareem and Magic you could see a nice dark and mysterious GWF.
I'm glad that this year the Lakers are moving towards the latter.
I'd love to see Pauley Pavillion go lights out for a few games.
Immortalfire
11-05-2006, 03:34 PM
Hawks beat the Magic :)
Ben Urich
11-05-2006, 03:56 PM
Hawks beat the Magic :)
Wow. Not even close. :csad:
Only 11 points in the first quarter. Ouch.
At least Carlos Arroyo had a good game. 22 points off the bench on 9-9 shooting. :up:
EDIT: Zaza made the Magic pay for not protecting him in the expansion draft - 17 points. Got Dwight into foul trouble.
The Riddler
11-05-2006, 04:42 PM
i think orlando is overrated.
i myself thought they were a little better than they have shown.
Erundur
11-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Wizards over the Celtics Me Happy :)
Will the real Tracy McGrady please stand up? What happened to this guy? I know it's still early in the season but did he leave his game in the offseason? This IS the real T-Mac. Or should I say Slow-Mac? I'm telling you, this guy's athleticism has somehow vanished. I cannot believe how unathletic he looks. If his jump shot's off he can't score to save his life. I'm NOT exaggerating. I saw 50 something games of the exact same T-Mac last season and ALL of his struggles were attributed to the back troubles. Well, he ain't injured NOW and he looks NO better than last season. Worse, in fact. T-Mac cannot take it to the basket AT ALL. He has no first step. He can't explode. His hops are gone. He runs the floor like Yao Ming. Like last season he's also still carrying more pounds than necessary and he seems to like being 'BIG'. Houston is STUCK with this guy. Their GM IMO has to start thinking of trading him at the AS break. This is the 2nd straight season where T-Mac physically has looked like a shell of his former self and his confidence is at an all time low. Even if he regains his touch he still won't be anything like his old self due to severely diminished athletic ability. Trade him while his stock's still high for another star player. Somebody has to be available by mid-season.
The Fall of Tracy McGrady :(
Problem = NBA Live 07 cover athlete (that game sucks @ss :o)
Solution = Trade.
DarthRekal
11-05-2006, 10:14 PM
HORRIBLE game!:cmad::csad:
too many turnovers... no intensity..... no lamar = no win:csad:
and where was the d!!!!!!!!:huh:
oh well we cant win them all..... lets pick it up against the wolves
DarthRekal
11-05-2006, 10:18 PM
we were down by 25!:wow:
lol no only down by 12.... could it ??????:huh::wow::huh::wow:
DarthRekal
11-05-2006, 10:32 PM
now is it over???:huh::csad:
Stringer
11-05-2006, 11:52 PM
Will the real Tracy McGrady please stand up? What happened to this guy? I know it's still early in the season but did he leave his game in the offseason? This IS the real T-Mac. Or should I say Slow-Mac? I'm telling you, this guy's athleticism has somehow vanished. I cannot believe how unathletic he looks. If his jump shot's off he can't score to save his life. I'm NOT exaggerating. I saw 50 something games of the exact same T-Mac last season and ALL of his struggles were attributed to the back troubles. Well, he ain't injured NOW and he looks NO better than last season. Worse, in fact. T-Mac cannot take it to the basket AT ALL. He has no first step. He can't explode. His hops are gone. He runs the floor like Yao Ming. Like last season he's also still carrying more pounds than necessary and he seems to like being 'BIG'. Houston is STUCK with this guy. Their GM IMO has to start thinking of trading him at the AS break. This is the 2nd straight season where T-Mac physically has looked like a shell of his former self and his confidence is at an all time low. Even if he regains his touch he still won't be anything like his old self due to severely diminished athletic ability. Trade him while his stock's still high for another star player. Somebody has to be available by mid-season.
Dont worry about T-Mac buddy, he'll be ok. Its a long season.
Ben Urich
11-06-2006, 12:11 AM
T-Mac's back will never be 100%. Back injuries never fully heal.
Can't say that I'm sorry. Dude did two things for Orlando: Diddly and Squat. :o
The Riddler
11-06-2006, 12:35 AM
t-crap isn't helping the rockets at all.
the rockets are clearly now yao's team, and t-crap needs to stop jacking up bricks if the rockets hope to get far.
either that or yao needs to stay out of foul trouble. he got into early foul trouble in both the utah and new orleans games which they both lost. in fact, yao only played 4 minutes in the entire first half.
coincidence? i think not.
There's nothing quite like those anything-seems-possible early days in the NBA Power Rankings.
A combined 1-4 record for the two titans who met in the NBA Finals and several more Week 1 surprises from teams down low have given the rankings an immediate jumble. We're already struggling to identify a clear-cut No. 1 -- given that our eventual choice, San Antonio, lost its home opener -- but that means there's no shortage of Cinderellas ... starting with New Orleans/Oklahoma City and Utah.
The Hornets and Jazz, two of the league's three remaining unbeatens, have taken up unexpected residence in the top five. It's difficult to imagine that they'll be staying up there long, but you can argue otherwise
2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 1
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (3) Spurs 2-1 Winning in Big D and signing an athletic wing prospect (Flight White) so late gives SA plenty to offset what LeBron did to Duncan (and everyone else) Friday night.
2 (9) Hornets 3-0 At least one Western Conference upstart out there had shoulders broad enough to handle lofty expectations from the committee. Take notes, Warriors.
3 (14) Jazz 3-0 This should be fun: Jazz swept Pistons last season as a non-playoff team and play host to them Monday after a start that had made them darlings of scouts everywhere.
4 (8) Cavaliers 2-1 Honestly? The sight of Sean May rejecting LeBron at the rim -- and then looking down at him with a dismissive glare -- shocked me more than LBJ posterizing Duncan.
5 (5) Pistons 2-1 The only consolation for Pistons after their opening-night debacle -- a small one, granted -- is that all four of last season's final four teams lost their first game.
6 (2) Mavericks 0-2 A few folks in Mavsland warned the committee to expect a slow start from the reigning West champs. Guess they knew what they were talking about.
7 (1) Heat 1-2 Didn't expect them to stay up here long, not after winning it all without ever reaching No. 1. But I didn't expect Heat to lose interest by halftime on Opening Night.
8 (7) Clippers 2-1 More evidence it's a new day in Clipperland: Dunleavy's lads suffered one understandable loss in three games and folks are still asking What's wrong?
9 (19) Lakers 3-1 After a nightmarish preseason, who saw this coming? They're 1-1 with Kobe playing and 2-0 with Odom, Bynum, Turiaf and Walton running the operation.
10 (11) Nets 1-1 Nets' start is best summed up by two words: Weird scheduling. They'll play only four games in the season's first 11 days . . . with two of those against Miami.
11 (4) Suns 1-3 Opening up 4-5 last season, that was a bad start. Blowing big leads on the road (Lakers) and at home (Utah) adds up to a full-fledged worrying start.
12 (6) Bulls 1-2 After torching Miami, Bulls should have flown in Kareem to give the same speech he gave Magic after his first NBA game: Stop celebrating. There are 81 more of these.
13 (18) Bucks 2-1 You know us. Winning in Detroit on Opening Night was a big team step . . . but all we really care about is our man Redd shredding Pistons for 37.
14 (12) Rockets 1-2 Rockets are 1-1 in their division after going 1-15 vs. Southwest last season. But just when T-Mac's back seems fine, his new problem (free throws) persists.
15 (15) Wizards 1-1 Arenas told us he's ''going to do a documentary on myself . . . just to see how quirky I really am.'' Isn't wearing a boxing robe to the home opener a decent hint?
16 (26) 76ers 3-0 Guess this also isn't the season that Iverson, now 31, slows down. AI and new sixth man Korver have been deadly in one of the most surprising starts anywhere.
17 (17) Pacers 2-1 The impact newcomer in Indy is . . . Darrell Armstrong? Our man DA just posted back-to-back, double-digit scoring games after registering two all season in '05-06.
18 (20) Timberwolves 2-1 Told you Wolves had a great rookie. What we didn't tell you is that his name, in Week 1, would be second-rounder Craig Smith (who?) and not Randy Foye.
19 (13) Nuggets 0-2 'Melo apologized for his opening night ejection and took the blame for both losses. I wouldn't worry about him, in other words. I'd be worried about Utah.
20 (10) Warriors 1-2 It's too early in the game to say Sports Guy was right and we were wrong about these guys. A deserved drop, but no panic buttons pressed here . . . yet.
21 (16) Magic 1-2 First they pounded Chicago. Then Magic pulled a Chicago and lost their focus after hearing everyone gush about how good they looked in their first game.
22 (22) Kings 1-2 We can't help but root for Ron-Ron, but we say this for his own good: Stop shooting. Eighteen hoists a game, three more than Kev Martin, when he's at 28.3 percent?
23 (28) Hawks 2-1 The story, for once, is not that they passed up Chris Paul. The story is that Hawks, like Paul's Hornets, are a first-place team. Someone photocopy the standings.
24 (29) Bobcats 1-2 Beating Cavs was a big moment, but the most encouraging development is Okafor's fine start (13.0 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.3 bpg) after a worrying preseason (7.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg).
25 (30) Trail Blazers 2-1 A rare mistake from the committee: Roy is wowing folks already and will remain the ROY favorite in a lot of precincts even if Blazers don't win two out of every three.
26 (21) Raptors 1-2 No shame in losing two out of three given Raps' schedule so far. The distressing part is hearing about Bosh and Tim Duncan trading plantar fasciitis stories.
27 (27) SuperSonics 1-2 If this really is Sonics' last season in Seattle, the minimum requirement is beating out Portland in the Pacific NW standings. Yet somehow they're already playing catch-up.
28 (23) Grizzlies 1-2 Little Kyle Lowry's 10 rebounds in his first NBA game. Rudy Gay's 21-point debut. Hakim Warrick's coming-out party. Pau-less Grizz ain't laying down, that's for sure.
29 (25) Knicks 1-2 For a couple nights at least, Knicks were over .500 for the first time since early January 2005. Of course, Isiah easily could be 0-3 right now.
30 (24) Celtics 0-3 If you're tempted to say Celts never would have started 0-3 under Red, be advised that it did happen . . . once. In '50-51, Red's first season in Boston.
DarthRekal
11-06-2006, 04:20 PM
i thought being ranked 9 on BSPN's power rankings was crap..until i saw CNNSI's..13??:huh: :wow: :cmad:
The Riddler
11-06-2006, 05:55 PM
rockets pissed me off the first week.
two bad performances, and one dominating one. :cmad:
DarthRekal
11-07-2006, 04:14 PM
SHOWTIME ..tonight..
cmon lamar!
LastSunrise1981
11-07-2006, 04:21 PM
0-3 start for the Dallas Mavericks. :csad:
Ghostvirus
11-07-2006, 04:57 PM
0-3 start for the Dallas Mavericks:csad:
Perhaps Stern's power is beyond even your understanding, or perhaps the Mavs aren't as good as you thought they were. Perhaps.
Soundwave
11-07-2006, 08:38 PM
Perhaps Stern's power is beyond even your understanding, or perhaps the Mavs aren't as good as you thought they were. Perhaps.
My Mavs will be okay. I'm not ready to ush the panic button yet. Suns and Heat are also off to slow starts. All of these teams will be in the title hunt in the end. It's way too early in the season.
DarthRekal
11-07-2006, 10:43 PM
why couldnt we be playing the mavs early???
Mamba ownz the mavs!:woot:
we're up right now on the wolves..i know its not saying much .. but a dub is a dub
LastSunrise1981
11-07-2006, 10:49 PM
Perhaps Stern's power is beyond even your understanding, or perhaps the Mavs aren't as good as you thought they were. Perhaps.
Don't worry, in the end Chicago won't be anywhere near the championship. :)
I still hold my prediction that it's Dallas/Miami in a championship rematch.
Immortalfire
11-07-2006, 10:55 PM
Hawks beat LeBron and company, woot :up:
The Riddler
11-07-2006, 10:55 PM
rockets look sluggish, but they pulled out a win.
they have 3 upcoming very winnable games; they can push their record to 5-2.
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