2006-2007 NBA Thread

[DarthRekal]

turn on TNT!..


kobe has 50 points and the fourth hasnt even started


ODOM from downtown


man its a massacre on the leagues "best" team!:wow::woot:

[DarthRekal]

garbage time!:woot:


just killin em!.. what a way to bounce back!


bring on the clips!:word:

[The Riddler]

kobe is just sav.

carmelo, wade, lebron are all fighting for 2nd best.

kobe is still the best offensive player in the league and when he's on fire, it isn't even close.

[L.A.]

Im going to the Lakers/Clippers game this saturday.

[Mister J]

Christ, Mamba.

30 in the 3rd. Damn.

[Ben Urich]

****ing Kobe :down

[Darkest Knight]

What did I say? Wade wasn't gonna do squat on the Pistons. He is nothing without Shaq freeing up lanes for him.

But my man 24K... 52 points in 3 quarters, still recovering from a bad knee. Now THAT is one bad mofo.

[Ben Urich]

Wade's assists have gone up.
I wonder how many Heat points he personally accounts for...

[Fran]

Da Pistons!!!! :up:

[L.A.]

Well here's another trade rumor Maggette for heat Posey and Walker :(
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/basketball/16136969.htm
I like Posey but he's no where near the level Maggette is and Walker is just straight up overrated. Bad trade for clips but good trade for heat if it goes down.

[Ben Urich]

Pffft.
Antoine Walker, Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury are all stiffs. :down

[L.A.]

Pffft.
Antoine Walker, Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury are all stiffs. :down
Yea Walker seems destined to be a Knick!

[Ben Urich]

Isaiah Thomas should have won GM of the Year last year... for good he did for the Magic. :up:

[Mister J]

Wade's assists have gone up.
I wonder how many Heat points he personally accounts for... He's been playing a lot of point lately with (Williams still on the mend). It seemed the only way to generate some offense.
Well here's another trade rumor Maggette for heat Posey and Walker :(
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/basketball/16136969.htm
I like Posey but he's no where near the level Maggette is and Walker is just straight up overrated. Bad trade for clips but good trade for heat if it goes down.
I'd hate to lose Posey, but they can have Walker.

[Ben Urich]

I used to want a Jason Williams Grizzlies jersey so bad. :csad:
He's probably my favorite white player in the NBA. :up:
Well, he or Pat Burke. :o

[Mister J]

NBA Wars: The Union Strikes Back

Union Gets On Ball, Files Unfair Labor Practice Charge (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2682848)

It must be a slow day, because I find this all extremely funny.

[DarthRekal]

What did I say? Wade wasn't gonna do squat on the Pistons. He is nothing without Shaq freeing up lanes for him.

But my man 24K... 52 points in 3 quarters, still recovering from a bad knee. Now THAT is one bad mofo.
i love you dk whoever you are!:yay:


that trade for maggette to the heat is scary the heat will be really good then :wow:

but the clips shouldnt do it they would suck:whatever: :cmad:

[DarthRekal]

I used to want a Jason Williams Grizzlies jersey so bad. :csad:
He's probably my favorite white player in the NBA. :up:
Well, he or Pat Burke. :o

its all about dirk baby!


or LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE! :woot:

heck i even like nash

and ivan drago er AK47

[Ben Urich]

NBA Wars: The Union Strikes Back

Union Gets On Ball, Files Unfair Labor Practice Charge (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2682848)

It must be a slow day, because I find this all extremely funny.

No, that's pretty hilarious

[LastSunrise1981]

Dallas wins their 12 straight. Come on people, talk about the Mavs. Are people finally taking them seriously again? :wow:

What's amazing is they won the game with Dirk virtually having an off night. Howard, Stackhouse, Terry, Johnson, George, Dampier, and Diop had some pretty good games today too.

Either way, Dallas makes it 12 straight. :woot: :woot:

[terry78]

Say what you will about Kobe, but he earns his paycheck.

[Ben Urich]

Yeah, the Mavs winning 12 straight is pretty ridiculous. They've gotta be the favorite to take the whole damn thing.

[Fran]

PISTONS WIN 8TH STRAIGHT!!!! 108-100!!!


over the Knicks. :dry:

[Ben Urich]

Damn, the Magic are blowing it in Portland.
We have no answer for Zach Randolph. :wow::csad:

[Ben Urich]

HILL AT THE BUZZER! :wow:
MAGIC WIN! :up:

[L.A.]

Getting ready to go to the Clips/Lakers game in about 30Mins!:D

[Ben Urich]

Don't look now, but the Magic are tied for the best record in the league. :huh:

[Ben Urich]

Here's a stat for you:
In home games, Gilbert Arenas shoots .491 from the floor and averages 33.1 points, but in road games, he shoots .284 and averages 18.7.
:huh:

[Ghostvirus]

Well the Bulls won there 4th in a row. I am not going to get to excited. They beat some pretty sub-par teams. If they can go 6 in a row beating Detroit then I will be impressed. Watching them play the Wiz. They do seem to have it together finally. Hopefully they do.

[Fran]

I highly doubt the Bulls will beat the Pistons.

[Ghostvirus]

I highly doubt the Bulls will beat the Pistons.

LOL! Your a cute kid.:cwink:

[Ghostvirus]

I screwed up. I thought they were playing Deroit soon. It turns out they have a pretty easy schedule for a while. With the exception of L.A. & Miami. If all goes well. By the end of the month Chicago should be 20-12.

[Ben Urich]

There's a cool little feature on NBA.com where an unidentified Eastern Conference GM says the only two players he'd ever trade Dwight Howard for are Dwyane Wade and LeBron James. :wow:
Smart man :up:

[Mister J]

Howard's beastly. He's probably already the League's best rebounder, his offense has picked up noticeably this year and he won't be 21 until next week.

[DarthRekal]

I screwed up. I thought they were playing Deroit soon. It turns out they have a pretty easy schedule for a while. With the exception of L.A. & Miami. If all goes well. By the end of the month Chicago should be 20-12.

which L.A. are you referring to???

not the LITTLE brother clips are you??:huh: :woot:


man we smashed them again

all this talk about how they are the better team they have yet to win a season series in two years:word:


but now our TRUE test comes... ROAD TRIP!:csad:

[LastSunrise1981]

I highly doubt the Bulls will beat the Pistons.

Anything is possible. The Bobcats just beat the Pistons.

[L.A.]

which L.A. are you referring to???

not the LITTLE brother clips are you??:huh: :woot:


man we smashed them again

all this talk about how they are the better team they have yet to win a season series in two years:word:


but now our TRUE test comes... ROAD TRIP!:csad:
On a side note did you see Livingston Blocked kobe Twice!!! I dont even think Kobe even scored on Livingston! Livingston the New Kobe Stopper!:up:

[Fran]

Anything is possible. The Bobcats just beat the Pistons.

Yeah, I know. Talk about a bummer :down

[L.A.]

Clippers blew out the east best team Orlando Magic:confused: Finally a Clipper win where they actually looked good playing! I like Livingston starting from now on, he really helped jumpstart the offense, not sure about Thomas even though he had a great game.

[Fran]

Without a doubt, by far the West is superior. Only Detroit and Cleveland and Orlando are real contenders for now.

The Heat possibly later on :o

[L.A.]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 5
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (2) Mavericks 12-4 Bold prediction: Mavs won't be going 78-4. Simply matching the club's longest-ever winning streak (14) is two road wins away. But they're an undisputed No. 1, right?
2 (1) Jazz 14-4 You can live with a 1-3 blip after a 12-1 start. Sloan's real issue is giving up two 50-point games in one month, which no NBA team had done since December 1990.
3 (8) Magic 13-5 Best in the East? A tidy 6-3 against the West? On a 59-win pace? Twenty-nine wins in their last 40 games counting last season's 16-6 finish? It's early, yes, but it's all true.
4 (3) Spurs 12-5 Not that they really need to look for silver linings, but Spurs are still unbeaten on the road with Manu in the lineup. So they're fine . . . as long as he's back soon.
5 (4) Suns 9-6 After Amare rumbles for at least 20-and-10 in four straight games, I think even the skeptics would agree: You'd welcome an 80-percent Amare on your team.
6 (8) Lakers 11-5 As stated last week: Who needs a smooth training camp? Not Kobe, who's shooting a career-best 49 percent from the floor and hushing all that It's A Clipper Town stuff.
7 (6) Pistons 11-6 Losing their streak in Charlotte wasn't the best. But Pistons' 11-1 record in six back-to-back sets is quite good, with 16 back-to-backs to go for a league-high 22 overall.
8 (5) Rockets 11-5 Rough week for T-Mac, who took painful shots to the hip and the head, but a healthy month for Rockets, who enjoyed their first 10-win November since 1996-97.
9 (9) Nuggets 10-5 Nuggets can't get too broken up about a home loss to Grizz when 'Melo's an All-Star lock already, J.R. might be Steal of the Summer and they're even outscoring Phoenix.
10 (16) Pacers 9-9 Disappointing as it was to lose a roadie at the buzzer to struggling Seattle, Pacers still have East's No. 4 record . . . when they've played only six home games.
11 (18) Bulls 7-9 Bulls have endured the hardest schedule in the league so far, as well as a national headband debate, but none of that has really set them back. What a conference.
12 (12) Warriors 9-8 Wins over Jazz and Spurs were special, but Warriors just played 11 of 12 at home and went 7-5. So they're behind last season's 12-6 pace, with several roadies forthcoming.
13 (13) Clippers 8-8 East aside, this is November's most disappointing team. Routing Orlando doesn't change fact that Clips are 0-6 on the road and have sunk to last in the Pacific.
14 (10) Cavaliers 10-7 I know they miss Hughes. I know nights like Saturday in Houston happen to everyone. But a 6-7 record in the East? With losses to Bobcats, Hawks and Knicks?
15 (14) Kings 8-7 Artest (uh-oh) says he wants more shots. Bibby is gamely playing hurt but shooting 35.1 percent, 26.8 on 3s. Maybe, just maybe, Kings should look for K-Mart first.
16 (17) Heat 7-9 For all the talk about how little help D-Wade's getting with Shaq out, Heat really can't ask for more from Haslem, who's averaging a healthy 13.4 ppg and 9.7 rpg.
17 (11) Hornets 8-8 Losing West and Peja would be a killer at any time. But losing both frontcourt starters early is especially rough, with 17 of Hornets' first 30 games on the road.
18 (15) Timberwolves 7-9 Not a good week overall, but an encouraging ending with Wolves' road win in Philly and my man Mike James, after a rough Nov., starting the new month strong.
19 (21) Nets 7-9 Figures. After my recent ode to J-Kidd in the Weekend Dime, he fails to score in double figures six times in seven games, five of them losses.
20 (23) Hawks 7-8 Woodson probably hasn't received enough credit for Hawks hovering around .500. But they'd be an even bigger story if they hadn't lost five games by five points or less.
21 (25) Raptors 7-10 Raps have already been West twice and play almost half their road schedule before Jan. 1. So maybe there is one Atlantic team that can live with its start.
22 (29) Bucks 6-10 Toughest week so far begins with news that Simmons might be out for the season. The response? Bucks stun Lakers and Warriors on the road and scare Suns, too.
23 (24) Wizards 6-10 Arenas has been held to 10 points or less three times . . . and Wiz are still the East's (and the league's) worst road team at 0-8. It's bizarre, not quirky.
24 (26) Grizzlies 4-12 Memories from any of those first-round sweeps are almost pleasant compared to looking at box scores without Pau and all the uncertainty surrounding the team's sale.
25 (28) Bobcats 5-12 Surely you expected Bobs to beat Pistons and favor them to topple Spurs again Wednesday. They're 4-1 against CLE, SA, NJ and DET, 1-11 against all others.
26 (20) SuperSonics 7-11 Just a hunch, but I'm struggling to picture the volatile Bob Hill -- seemingly railing about something new every day -- with Sonics next season. Wherever they are.
27 (19) Trail Blazers 6-12 Ouch. Sunday's loss to Hawks completed an 0-4 homestand for back-to-Earth, Roy-less Blazers, who are 2-10 since their 4-2 start and play their next six on the road.
28 (30) Knicks 6-13 Only in Gotham could this news be bad news, but Knicks -- who even Isiah admits play with 'fear' at MSG -- have only one roadie in the next 10 games.
29 (27) Celtics 5-10 On Wednesday AM, Celts led the Atlantic. By Friday PM, they had lost to Nets and Raps by a combined seven points. Now they have nine more road games this month.
30 (22) 76ers 5-11 Anyone remember that 3-0 start, which included a win at Orlando? If it feels like forever ago, that's because Sixers have only two wins in the 27 days since.

[DarthRekal]

On a side note did you see Livingston Blocked kobe Twice!!! I dont even think Kobe even scored on Livingston! Livingston the New Kobe Stopper!:up:

lol i saw that ... good stuff by the youngsta ..trust MAMBA will remember it :woot:


WOOT lakers number SIX!:word:


pacers tonight !

[Mister J]

Oh, Mamba will definitely remember. Kirilenko put the clamps on him in the 4th in that game in Utah a while back (I think he only had 2 in the quarter) and he mentioned that #24 wouldn't forget it. Low and behold, Utah comes to the Staples Center a little later and it's the friggin' Mamba Show sponsored by the number 52. Livingston has no idea what he's done.

[Mister J]

This ought to bring in some good commentary... :hyper:

Sports Illustrated Honors Wade As Sportsman of the Year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/specials/sportsman/2006/12/04/wade.sportsman/index.html)

And guys, we've heard the "Finals were rigged" and "Wade for Best Actor" comments. They're played to death. Give us something new. I need you to reach deep and bring your true disdain for Flash to the forefront. Get creative. That 'he acts like Sasquatch threw him to the ground' remark that Sunrise had after the Pistons game was pretty good. Follow suit, let's keep it clean for the kids and go for it. :up:

[Ben Urich]

This ought to bring in some good commentary... :hyper:

Sports Illustrated Honors Wade As Sportsman of the Year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/specials/sportsman/2006/12/04/wade.sportsman/index.html)

And guys, we've heard the "Finals were rigged" and "Wade for Best Actor" comments. They're played to death. Give us something new. I need you to reach deep and bring your true disdain for Flash to the forefront. Get creative. That 'he acts like Sasquatch threw him to the ground' remark that Sunrise had after the Pistons game was pretty good. Follow suit, let's keep it clean for the kids and go for it. :up:


I was gonna post that earlier, but my computer was acting up. :cmad:

[L.A.]

Oh, Mamba will definitely remember. Kirilenko put the clamps on him in the 4th in that game in Utah a while back (I think he only had 2 in the quarter) and he mentioned that #24 wouldn't forget it. Low and behold, Utah comes to the Staples Center a little later and it's the friggin' Mamba Show sponsored by the number 52. Livingston has no idea what he's done.
Thats one way of looking at it, another way is that Kobe scored 40pts against the Clips the first game and Livingston remember it and stopped him in the next game!!!

[LastSunrise1981]

This ought to bring in some good commentary... :hyper:

Sports Illustrated Honors Wade As Sportsman of the Year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/specials/sportsman/2006/12/04/wade.sportsman/index.html)

And guys, we've heard the "Finals were rigged" and "Wade for Best Actor" comments. They're played to death. Give us something new. I need you to reach deep and bring your true disdain for Flash to the forefront. Get creative. That 'he acts like Sasquatch threw him to the ground' remark that Sunrise had after the Pistons game was pretty good. Follow suit, let's keep it clean for the kids and go for it. :up:

Good for him. Still doesn't change that I think he's an overrated player and was given calls for the championship. But hey, good for him that he won this Sportsman of the Year award.

Not that it means anything since it's not really another NBA title or an MVP title. If anything it's truly a worthless award much like their fanbase. :yay:

[Mister J]

Sunrise, that started a little weak, but the shot at the fanbase was a nice touch. :up:

In other news, can someone please explain Gilbert Arenas' Jekyll and Hyde performance between home and away games? It's like a +16 point differential in DC. Seriously, did that altitude-altering/hyperbaric chamber or whatever the hell training mechanism he has give him a mild dissociative identity disorder or something? :huh:

[LastSunrise1981]

Sunrise, that started a little weak, but the shot at the fanbase was a nice touch. :up:

In other news, can someone please explain Gilbert Arenas' Jekyll and Hyde performance between home and away games? It's like a +16 point differential in DC. Seriously, did that altitude-altering/hyperbaric chamber or whatever the hell training mechanism he has give him a mild dissociative identity disorder or something? :huh:

Thanks, I do my very best. :yay:

The streak ended in Washington. I didn't see how much Arenas scored or anything, but it was bound to end eventually for Dallas. I put Arenas in the same class as Wade. Both are extremely overrated and are exposed when tough defense is applied to them.

Oh by the way, I meant what I said about the Miami Heats fanbase. :cwink:

[Mister J]

Arenas went for 38. The streak ending isn't a big deal. I just want to know why the man plays like he's in a contract year at home and like he couldn't care less on the road. It no make the sense. :huh:

Yeah, I know how you feel about the fanbase ...bandwagon, didn't care until Shaq came aboard, maggots who can die. It's all very nice, but fanbases don't win games and championships...and neither do referees and commissioners. :woot:

[Ben Urich]

The Pacers are getting torched in Staples. Jeez, just fold the franchise. :down

[Mister J]

There's going to be a fire sale in Indiana at some point. They're just going to burn the village and start fresh ...kinda like what Ra's al Ghul wanted to do. :ninja:

[DarthRekal]

This ought to bring in some good commentary... :hyper:

Sports Illustrated Honors Wade As Sportsman of the Year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/specials/sportsman/2006/12/04/wade.sportsman/index.html)

And guys, we've heard the "Finals were rigged" and "Wade for Best Actor" comments. They're played to death. Give us something new. I need you to reach deep and bring your true disdain for Flash to the forefront. Get creative. That 'he acts like Sasquatch threw him to the ground' remark that Sunrise had after the Pistons game was pretty good. Follow suit, let's keep it clean for the kids and go for it. :up:

i saw this J check out the section where it shows what the people think they can post thoughts... nothing but a wade hate fest.. i thought it was only like that in LA ...good to see the FLASH IN THE PAN isnt just seen by us:woot:


p.s. i havent been around long enough to know you are a true fan of miami i will take your word for it J but god i hate the SHAQ jockers!:cmad:



in other news the lake show is keillin em...but MAMBA twists his ankle:wow::csad:


and mamba already has the MICHAEL REDD game in milwaukee marked

[Spider-Nerd]

david lee is nasty:)

[Darkest Knight]

My boy Kobe!!! Lakers!!! I hope they make a huge push this year... and to imagine, KG wants to play for them. SCARY!!!

[NewYorkSpider]

My boy Kobe!!! Lakers!!! I hope they make a huge push this year... and to imagine, KG wants to play for them. SCARY!!!

KG deserves to be on a winning team like the Lakers.

[Ben Urich]

The Magic win another close one out West. Are they for real? :huh::up:

There's going to be a fire sale in Indiana at some point. They're just going to burn the village and start fresh ...kinda like what Ra's al Ghul wanted to do. :ninja:

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they dumped Jermaine O'Neal and Baby Al Harrington. :csad:
As long as they keep Jeff Foster, I guess I'm happy :huh: He plays hard :up:

[Mister J]

i saw this J check out the section where it shows what the people think they can post thoughts... nothing but a wade hate fest.. i thought it was only like that in LA ...good to see the FLASH IN THE PAN isnt just seen by us:woot:


p.s. i havent been around long enough to know you are a true fan of miami i will take your word for it J but god i hate the SHAQ jockers!:cmad:



in other news the lake show is keillin em...but MAMBA twists his ankle:wow::csad:


and mamba already has the MICHAEL REDD game in milwaukee marked
I read through the comments last night. There's some good stuff in there. There were also some legitimate gripes though in favor of Roger Federer and Tiger Woods, both of whom are absolutely dominant in their respective fields. It's all good though. Every now and then, you just need something to laugh at and you can always count on something like this to illicit some straight comedy. Sports wouldn't be as fun without it.:woot:

Let me just say that I am not happy about this whole Mamba deal at all. For crying out loud, I can't very well refer to him as a selfish, egocentric ass (though supremely talented) if he keeps this up. I've had to actually refer to them as the Lakers, and not the Bryants, this year. What type of sick joke is this?! :cmad::csad:
My boy Kobe!!! Lakers!!! I hope they make a huge push this year... and to imagine, KG wants to play for them. SCARY!!! KG ain't going nowhere. He's constantly said he's not interested in leaving and McHale has constantly said he's not trading him.

Garnett Miffed At Rumors, Not Unhappy With Wolves (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2685714)
On Sunday, the former MVP squashed rumors of his discontent in Minnesota and suggestions that he'd be better off searching for a championship elsewhere.
"I've never said I [was] unhappy," Garnett said after the Timberwolves beat the Philadelphia 76ers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=phi) 95-84. "I don't know where y'all get that [expletive] from. None of y'all have asked me that."
The man's not happy about losing, but I've never seen anything other than media-based speculation about him putting on another uniform. It's been like that ever since they flamed out against the Lakers in the Conference Finals a few years back.

[Kipobe]

It's strange, when the Lakers had worse seasons last year and the year before, I was posting in the NBA thread way more. Now that they're doing pretty good I can't bring myself to talk about them on here.

:huh:

Regardless, let my undying love for them be known until the day I live no more! :cmad:

[DarthRekal]

dont worry kipobe im reppin for you!.. i got yer back!:word:

[L.A.]

Clips win against the heat! Two game winning streak! :eek: Livingston should start for the rest of the year! His play seems to help Mobley and Brand alot!

[Mister J]

Brand was a monster all night. Quick put-backs, hitting the J off the pick and roll, crashing the boards. He stopped a lot of the Miami surges down the stretch.

[L.A.]

Brand was a monster all night. Quick put-backs, hitting the J off the pick and roll, crashing the boards. He stopped a lot of the Miami surges down the stretch.
He's starting to play like the Elton Brand of last year!

[The Riddler]

rockets, mavs, spurs, lakers, jazz are my top 5 teams in the nba in no particular order.

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey Heat fans, see what happens when Wade doesn't get the calls? They lose and lose horribly. :woot:

I am happy the Mavs won last night too. :up: :up: :up:

[Ben Urich]

I think the Heat's losing has more to do with shooting 30% and not being able to stop Elton Brand than anything else. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

I think the Heat's losing has more to do with shooting 30% and not being able to stop Elton Brand than anything else. :o

And Wade not getting lame calls and acting as if Sasquatch threw him to the floor. I am glad to see that overrated piece of crap team and their fanbase lose games. :yay: :woot: :yay:

Go Dallas!

Speaking of which, did anyone see that ridiculously crazy bank shot that Dirk made? :wow:

[Fran]

Like I've said before, Dwayne Wade = Best Actor.

[Ben Urich]

And Wade not getting lame calls and acting as if Sasquatch threw him to the floor. I am glad to see that overrated piece of crap team and their fanbase lose games. :yay: :woot: :yay:

Go Dallas!

Speaking of which, did anyone see that ridiculously crazy bank shot that Dirk made? :wow:

Would you just get over it already? We get it. You don't like the Heat, you don't like Dwyane Wade, you need a Midol, etc.

[LastSunrise1981]

Would you just get over it already? We get it. You don't like the Heat, you don't like Dwyane Wade, you need a Midol, etc.

Nope. I will continue to say what I say and continue to believe what I believe. :) Hey, it's not my fault your Pacers are sucking ass. :yay:

[DarthRekal]

rockets, mavs, spurs, lakers, jazz are my top 5 teams in the nba in no particular order.

LAKERS!:woot:


we got a texas three step coming up ..SA Dallas then Houston..


gonna be tough:word:

[DarthRekal]

another lackadaisical( ben tell me if i spelled that right or not) performance

we cant keep EXPECTING to beat teams like that:cmad:

chris paul is the TRUTH though man :wow:

we cant sleep on the hawks tomorrow they are playing good ball

and last night was phil's loss ..cmon phil keep the guys motivated..shoulda sat out mamba..the rest of the crew woulda felt the pressure and stepped up(i hope)

[Ghostvirus]

Well the Bulls won there sixth in a row. Even though they have been playing sub-par teams. They look scarily like what I imagined in the beginning of the season. If they keep this up it could get windy in the NBA.

Nope. I will continue to say what I say and continue to believe what I believe. :) Hey, it's not my fault your Pacers are sucking ass. :yay:

Putting all those smiley's in with your now very annoying statements doesn't make you any less of a jerk off. I really hope you say some of the crap you spout here. Out in public, because anyone with any respect for the game would spit in your damn face, then proceed pummel the sh** out of you!

[LastSunrise1981]

Well the Bulls won there sixth in a row. Even though they have been playing sub-par teams. They look scarily like what I imagined in the beginning of the season. If they keep this up it could get windy in the NBA.



Putting all those smiley's in with your now very annoying statements doesn't make you any less of a jerk off. I really hope you say some of the crap you spout here. Out in public, because anyone with any respect for the game would spit in your damn face, then proceed pummel the sh** out of you!

Hardly. In the public no one messes with me and they know not to mess with me either. As long as they don't put their hands on me we're on good terms. You only wish someone would pummel the **** out of me, but guess what? It won't happen and it's not going to happen anytime soon, simply because people I socialize with and hang out with don't get pissy about me believing the finals were rigged.

I could walk up to a person right now and say the finals were rigged, and you know what they'd do? Nothing. They'd walk away and continue doing what they were doing.

Maybe that's what you should do instead of worrying about me. Or maybe worry about how sucky your Bulls are. :yay:

Anyone that has respect for the game would know exactly where I'm coming from. But hey, look on the bright side, Dallas will be there in the end while your sucky Bulls are struggling to maintain .500.

[Ghostvirus]

The fact that you believe that the game is rigged is not what is annoying for me. It is the fact that you say it everytime the Heat are mentioned. We all know what you think. Why keep harping on it? Quite frankly that is all you ever say. I have never read anything from you that shows that you have even the slightest bit of knowledge of basketball.

[Ghostvirus]

Hey Sunrise on January 25th The Bulls play Dallas. If you notice I sigged your little remark. We will see what happens in January Jr.

[L.A.]

TEAM (LAST WK) REC. BREAKDOWN
1 Dallas (1) 13-5 I'm willing to overlook the slow start in Washington and say the streak's alive at 14. That okay with everybody? No? Well, they're still No. 1 after cutting down the Nets.
2 Utah (2) 15-4 Note to Wolves, Mavs and Clips if you want to pick up a W on the Jazz this week, get out early. In all four losses this season, Utah trailed at the half.
3 San Antonio (3) 14-5 It's good to have Manu in action. The Spurs dropped two of four he sat, but blew out the Warriors and Bobcats in his two games back.
4 Orlando (4) 14-6 Orlando is one of only four East teams that are .500-plus vs. the West. Most impressive, though, is the Magic just went 4-1 on the road out west.
5 Phoenix (6) 10-6 Need convincing that Amare's feeling better? How 'bout 18.9 ppg and 10.6 rpg in 30.6 mpg over the last 10 games -- six of which were of the 20-10 variety.

TEAM (LAST WK) REC. BREAKDOWN
6 Detroit (5) 11-7 Think dropping a game at home to Portland smarts? Try hitting the road for a back-to-back with Dallas and Orlando this week.
7 L.A. Lakers (10) 12-6 What's more painful, Kobe's ankle or a look at the upcoming schedule? Lakers host the Spurs, visit the Rockets and Mavs, then return to Staples vs. the Rockets. Ouch.
8 Houston (9) 12-6 Not a good start to a lengthy road stay, losing at Minnesota Wednesday; seven of the next eight are away from the Toyota Center.
9 Denver (7) 10-6 It's one thing to only post 16 fourth-quarter points on the Grizzlies, but when you blow a 17-point lead to the Hawks, giving up 37 in the final period, you have to drop.
10 Cleveland (11) 11-7 Maybe Larry Hughes' absence isn't so big a deal, given how well Daniel Gibson played when given the start.
11 Golden State (8) 9-10 The team has three days to lick its wounds after a thrashing in Texas. It better bank a few home wins, though, because a lengthy road trip awaits next week.
12 Chicago (17) 9-9 Well, that whole headband controversy died down quickly. The Bulls haven't lost a game since Wallace first put it around his dome.
13 NO/Okla City (12) 9-8 Prior to dropping 105 points on the Lakers, the Hornets averaged a meek 84 ppg in five straight losses, including three sub-80 point games.
14 Indiana (14) 10-10 The Pacers get a chance to make up some ground in the Central with games at Cavs and Bulls, plus one vs. the Pistons this week.
15 L.A. Clippers (15) 9-8 Kaman and Co. look for their first road W Friday at San Antonio, where the Spurs have struggled. If not there, there's always a stop at Memphis the following night.
16 Washington (18) 8-10 It only took a franchise-record 14 triples and a visit to Madison Square Garden, but the Wizards finally picked up their first road win of the season.
17 Sacramento (13) 8-9 Since asking for more shots last Friday, Artest has hoisted … 0. A sore lower back has kept Artest out of the last three Kings losses.
18 New Jersey (16) 7-10 The wins over Atlantic Division foes, sandwhiched by a loss to Charlotte and a blowout by Dallas, leave me unimpressed. A win over Phoenix tonight could change that.
19 Minnesota (23) 8-9 Timberwolves are 1-4 in the second game of back-to-back sets. They go to Chicago Saturday after hosting Utah Friday.
20 Atlanta (21) 8-9 The Hawks, desperately in need of a healthy body or four these days, get a shot in the arm with the news Marvin Williams is cleared to play Friday.
21 Miami (19) 7-10 Considering the Heat is shooting only .300 as a team from three-point range for the season, maybe they should have taken a step in on a few of those 25 triple-tries vs. Clips.
22 Milwaukee (25) 7-11 The Bucks have yet to string together two straight wins this season, the longest stretch to open a season since 1993-94.
23 Seattle (22) 8-11 In eight wins this season, the Sonics are averaging 106.1 points, compared to the 95.9 ppg the team's putting up in 11 losses.
24 Portland (20) 7-13 Blazers can't be too down about an OT loss to Milwaukee. It's been a solid start to an East trip, with a win over Detroit and games at Pacers, Raptors, Sixers and Grizzlies to come.
25 Charlotte (29) 5-13 Welcome to the NBA, rook. Not many youngsters, Adam Morrison included, will light up Bruce Bowen and the Spurs two straight games.
26 Toronto (27) 7-11 The tough road schedule continues for the Raptors, who stop by Chicago, Miami and Orlando this week.
27 New York (26) 7-14 Seven of the next eight are at MSG, where the Knicks have a 2-8 record this season.
28 Memphis (30) 5-13 The Grizzlies almost gave up a second winnable game in a week, but, maybe having learned from Saturday's one-point loss to Heat, Memphis edged the Cs Wednesday.
29 Boston (28) 5-12 Celts have dropped six of seven, with a tough match against Phoenix Friday before stops at division rivals Nets, Knicks and Sixers.
30 Philadelphia (24) 5-12 That five-game skid could reach seven before the weekend's out. A game vs. Washington and a trip to Orlando await.

[LastSunrise1981]

Go ahead Maximum. Keep the quote, take a picture, and remember it. Even though Dallas lost to the Pistons tonight due to sketchy officiating in the end, the Bulls will never beat Dallas and Dallas will be contending for a championship while Chicago struggles to maintain .500. :yay: :yay:

[Fran]

MY Pistons beat YOUR Mavericks.

Sketchy officiating? :rolleyes: You're starting to sound like your team did after the NBA Finals last year.

The Pistons won because they played harder and earned it.

Enough with your stupid excuses.

[Mister J]

Now wait just a rootin'-tootin' minute! I'll be crossed six ways from Sunday if any team other than the Heatians is to be the beneficiary of favored officiating. Screw this, I'm getting Godfather Stern on the horn right now. We'll see about this. :cmad:

I, for one, am tired of the Mavericks constantly and blatantly being victimized by sketchy officiating. It offends my sensibilities to the core. I don't think they've truly lost a game since 2004. :dry:

Back to reality, what the hell was that in Jersey tonight? Did they bowl or actually play a basketball game? :wow:

[Mister J]

Take it for what it's worth (which admittedly isn't much right now) but the rumor mill is all a buzz with AI demanding out of the quagmire in Philly.

Bad Answer (http://www.nypost.com/seven/12082006/sports/bad_answer_sports_peter_vecsey.htm)

[LastSunrise1981]

MY Pistons beat YOUR Mavericks.

Sketchy officiating? :rolleyes: You're starting to sound like your team did after the NBA Finals last year.

The Pistons won because they played harder and earned it.

Enough with your stupid excuses.

Nope. It was sketchy officiating and it was obvious when Dirk was fouled on the three point line by Wallace and nothing was called. Dirk should've immediately went to the line for three and Tayshaun wasn't foul by Croshere as Tayshun initiated the contact with Austin having his arms in the air.

You're tired of the excuses? I'm tired of seeing the Mavericks get screwed by the officials.

By the way, the Pistons are not YOUR team. As you do not own them and do not play for them, just like the Mavs are not my team as I don't own them nor do I play for them either. I love the Mavs, so that makes me a fan.

[LastSunrise1981]

Now wait just a rootin'-tootin' minute! I'll be crossed six ways from Sunday if any team other than the Heatians is to be the beneficiary of favored officiating. Screw this, I'm getting Godfather Stern on the horn right now. We'll see about this. :cmad:

I, for one, am tired of the Mavericks constantly and blatantly being victimized by sketchy officiating. It offends my sensibilities to the core. I don't think they've truly lost a game since 2004. :dry:

Back to reality, what the hell was that in Jersey tonight? Did they bowl or actually play a basketball game? :wow:

That was a sucky ass basketball game. Where was the defense? That's why neither team goes anywhere because they both suck ass at defense and can't play a half-court setting.

Can't wait to actually see the Suns, Nets, Heat, and Pistons out of the race as they're all overrated.

[Fran]

Nope. It was sketchy officiating and it was obvious when Dirk was fouled on the three point line by Wallace and nothing was called. Dirk should've immediately went to the line for three and Tayshaun wasn't foul by Croshere as Tayshun initiated the contact with Austin having his arms in the air.

Okay, but what if this was reversed? You'd be flaming me for complaining too, saying "That wasn't a foul, the refs called a fair game, etc." But when the Mavs lose, "Oh no! It HAS to be the refs!" :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:

You're tired of the excuses? I'm tired of seeing the Mavericks get screwed by the officials.

Sore loser.

By the way, the Pistons are not YOUR team. As you do not own them and do not play for them, just like the Mavs are not my team as I don't own them nor do I play for them either. I love the Mavs, so that makes me a fan.

I didn't mean it like that, you're just reaching here.

[Fran]

Can't wait to actually see the Suns, Nets, Heat, and Pistons out of the race as they're all overrated.

Now you're just plain cocky here, and you're taking another shot at me.

The Pistons aren't overrated!! ALL the analysts thought they would hover around .500, and not give Cleveland a tough time at all. The Pistons are competing for the Central, and not letting idiots like you bring them down.

[LastSunrise1981]

Okay, but what if this was reversed? You'd be flaming me for complaining too, saying "That wasn't a foul, the refs called a fair game, etc." But when the Mavs lose, "Oh no! It HAS to be the refs!" :whatever::whatever::whatever::whatever:



Sore loser.



I didn't mean it like that, you're just reaching here.

If the Pistons were screwed over by officiating I would probably agree with you. If it was obvious that the Pistons were screwed over I'd more than likely join your cause to scream, yell, and ***** about how sketchy the officating is in the NBA.

The fact is the Mavs were screwed last night. Dirk went to the three point line, shot the ball, and was fouled hard by Rasheed and nothing was called by the zebras. Personally I feel Stern has it in for the Mavericks and doesn't want to consider the thought of handing a trophy to Cuban.

I've said once and I'll say it again, the league is corrupt organization and it is a conspiracy against the Mavericks to keep them away from the championship.

[LastSunrise1981]

Now you're just plain cocky here, and you're taking another shot at me.

The Pistons aren't overrated!! ALL the analysts thought they would hover around .500, and not give Cleveland a tough time at all. The Pistons are competing for the Central, and not letting idiots like you bring them down.

When you resort to name calling it shows you don't have an argument and can't handle the truth. :yay:

[Fran]

I'll just let you pretend you're always right, I don't feel like arguing anymore.

[Fran]

The fact is the Mavs were screwed last night. Dirk went to the three point line, shot the ball, and was fouled hard by Rasheed and nothing was called by the zebras. Personally I feel Stern has it in for the Mavericks and doesn't want to consider the thought of handing a trophy to Cuban.

I've said once and I'll say it again, the league is corrupt organization and it is a conspiracy against the Mavericks to keep them away from the championship.

I agree with you somewhat on that part. The regular season doesn't matter once the playoffs hit, don't worry yet. I still think the Mavs are going to win it (SHOCKER, huh?).

I believe that the league pretty much gave the title to the Heat. I mean, the refs handed them the East title and then the NBA title.

I remember Cuban yelling at Stern after Game 5, "**** you! **** you! YOUR LEAGUE IS RIGGED!"

And I still agree with him. But, the Heat won't win it this year, they just don't have it.

[DarthRekal]

Now wait just a rootin'-tootin' minute! I'll be crossed six ways from Sunday if any team other than the Heatians is to be the beneficiary of favored officiating. Screw this, I'm getting Godfather Stern on the horn right now. We'll see about this. :cmad:

I, for one, am tired of the Mavericks constantly and blatantly being victimized by sketchy officiating. It offends my sensibilities to the core. I don't think they've truly lost a game since 2004. :dry:

Back to reality, what the hell was that in Jersey tonight? Did they bowl or actually play a basketball game? :wow:

nash and kidd!:wow:


and mr j? i like the mask avy better!

[DarthRekal]

let's hope the embarrassment rule applies today

[Mister J]

I believe that the league pretty much gave the title to the Heat. I mean, the refs handed them the East title and then the NBA title.

I remember Cuban yelling at Stern after Game 5, "**** you! **** you! YOUR LEAGUE IS RIGGED!"

And I still agree with him. But, the Heat won't win it this year, they just don't have it.
How can you remember something that never happened? Cuban didn't say a word to Stern after Game 5. Beyond that, he thinks the possibility of the League being rigged is nonsensical and insulting.

From Cubes' blog, posted after Game 5.
http://www.blogmaverick.com/2006/06/20/the-nba-is-rigged-please/
Im used to getting emails from fans claiming the NBA is this or that. The NBA wants a team to win based on market size. The NBA doesnt want me to win because the league doesnt like me. So and so has money on the game. The NBA makes more money when the series goes 7 games.

Its all nonsense. Any prudent, rational person can easily see it. The games are not rigged. Thats a complete insult to the players on the court and the incredible amount of effort they put into preparing for and playing the games. All 82 regular season and post season games. The NBA couldnt rig the games if it wanted to. And it doesnt want to. Its that simple Two other things. Apparently the Miami Herald is reporting i screamed at the NBA comissioner after the game the other night. Didnt happen. Didnt say a word to the man. Not a single word. And that was absolutely by intention.

Apparently this "reporter" has written he has several "sources". Well they must be the same sources the tabloids use to find two headed babys and aliens, because it didnt happen.


nash and kidd!:wow:


and mr j? i like the mask avy better! That game sounds outta control. I wanna catch a replay on morbid curiosity alone. Everybody knows Phoenix couldn't stop a group of little old ladies from crossing the street, but this is ridiculous. Apparantly, it's contagious.

Opinion on the avy is noted. It's all about the theme songs. That damn Mighty Hercules tune is catchy. :word:

[Fran]

Mister J, I heard that from somewhere.

Don't flame me for it...

[Fran]

Pistons 87 Magic 83 FINAL

Pistons are now .5 games behind the Magic for best record in the NBA. They're starting to realize what kind of team they are, and it's showing.

Well done, Detroit :up: :woot:

[Mister J]

Mister J, I heard that from somewhere.

Don't flame me for it... Never the flamage ...even for a State fan. :cmad: :cool:

[Fran]

:heart:

[L.A.]

Allen Iverson ASKED TO BE TRADED???!!! :mad:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12082006/sports/bad_answer_sports_peter_vecsey.htm

[Mister J]

Allen Iverson ASKED TO BE TRADED???!!! :mad:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12082006/sports/bad_answer_sports_peter_vecsey.htm
Take it for what it's worth (which admittedly isn't much right now) but the rumor mill is all a buzz with AI demanding out of the quagmire in Philly.

Bad Answer (http://www.nypost.com/seven/12082006/sports/bad_answer_sports_peter_vecsey.htm) :mad:

Stop trying to steal my rumor mill thunder. We might be able to work something out regarding the lightning, but the thunder stays mine, dammit.:cmad::ninja:

[L.A.]

LOL! Ok! But the teams that could possible get A.I. are the Clips, Nuggets, T-Wolves, Knicks, Warriors, Celttics, Pretty much any team thats not contending right now:D

[Mister J]

I'd leave the Knicks off that list. Billy King can't be silly enough to take the contract and headaches that are Francis (who is out indefinitely with knee tendinitis), Marbury or any of the other horrible pieces on that team. I've heard the Kings' name in the mix too since Bibby can opt out of his contract. Who knows how it'll go down, but it's going down. When the team Chairman says "We'll trade him" and answers "probably" to being asked if Iverson has played his last game in Philly, you know the times are a'changin'.

AI in Minnesota is intriguing.

[Mister J]

Jeez beasties, Heatians. I know it's the tail end of a back-to-back and the cap to a 4-game road swing, but how do you give up 35 to JR Smith in three quarters? :huh:

I had to put up with way too much Earl Barron in the game tonight. Seriously, Earl Barron. Wade was bringing 21 and 14 at the end of the third, but with the game in striking range, sits out damn near the whole fourth with pain from an abscessed tooth? First AI, now Flash. Why can't these boys brush and floss properly.

Yeah, it's early ...plenty of time, whatever. Dammit, I need the Big Man to get healthy. :csad:

edit: Goddamn. Andre Miller dropped 20 assists. :eek:

[Ben Urich]

****in' Pistons. :down:cmad:

[Mister J]

They ruined Dwight Howard's birthday. :ninja:

Detroit hit their stride sooner than I thought. I know Afro Man doesn't make the world go around, but they upped the ante o perimeter D and when they do funnel things to the middle (like before), it's still kinda clicks. I know Nazr ain't that good, so it must mean the 'Sheed is picking it up on the post and helpside. Where's farmerfran? I'm sure he's seen more of them than I have. I don't see Ahmad Rashad anywhere and I need the inside scoop.

They better re-sign Chauncey's ass too. I don't think there's anyway he doesn't opt out after this year (it seems to be all the rage with the cool kids). Joe D is gonna have open the purse strings and bit the bullet 'cause losing Billups will be a death knell.

Has anybody ever had a better second half career than Chauncey? It's ridiculous. This is the same guy who flopped out of Boston, Denver, Toronto and Minnesota ...in 5 seasons. He has a decent first year in Detroit, Larry Brown hits the scene next year, they have a tense relationship because LB is demanding on his point guards, it all works and the whole damn paradigm shifts. This dude is now a legit star, clutch player and the key cog in a championship run. It's bat**** crazy. Vegas should make odds on this type of thing.

[Ghostvirus]

Well the Bulls won there seventh in a row. They play the Wolves tonight. *fingerscrossedfor eight in a row*

Sidebar: Paxson, Skiles! We want Iverson. I don't know how you could possibly do it, but make it happen damnit!:ninja:

[Fran]

****in' Pistons. :down:cmad:

:) :heart:

[Fran]

They ruined Dwight Howard's birthday. :ninja:

Detroit hit their stride sooner than I thought. I know Afro Man doesn't make the world go around, but they upped the ante o perimeter D and when they do funnel things to the middle (like before), it's still kinda clicks. I know Nazr ain't that good, so it must mean the 'Sheed is picking it up on the post and helpside. Where's farmerfran? I'm sure he's seen more of them than I have. I don't see Ahmad Rashad anywhere and I need the inside scoop.

They better re-sign Chauncey's ass too. I don't think there's anyway he doesn't opt out after this year (it seems to be all the rage with the cool kids). Joe D is gonna have open the purse strings and bit the bullet 'cause losing Billups will be a death knell.

Has anybody ever had a better second half career than Chauncey? It's ridiculous. This is the same guy who flopped out of Boston, Denver, Toronto and Minnesota ...in 5 seasons. He has a decent first year in Detroit, Larry Brown hits the scene next year, they have a tense relationship because LB is demanding on his point guards, it all works and the whole damn paradigm shifts. This dude is now a legit star, clutch player and the key cog in a championship run. It's bat**** crazy. Vegas should make odds on this type of thing.

Billups has just been amazing with this team. Nothing short of it.

I haven't watched too many Pistons games... the majority of them aren't on Fox Sports Net anymore for some stupid reason :huh:

I think all talk about them being overrated should be stopped for now.

[Eddie Brock]

it really, really sucks to see Allen Iverson go.....
but the Sixers aren't getting any better...

[L.A.]

it really, really sucks to see Allen Iverson go.....
but the Sixers aren't getting any better...
Reports have a number of teams interested, including Minnesota, Denver, Boston, Indiana and the Clippers.

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17572750&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=32095&rfi=6

[Ben Urich]

I saw a helluva game tonight. Magic/Sixers. The Sixers played hard and made over half their shots, but we played strong D down the stretch. :up:
Dwight Howard is a beast. :wow::up:

Reports have a number of teams interested, including Minnesota, Denver, Boston, Indiana and the Clippers.

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17572750&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=32095&rfi=6

I'm pretty sure George Karl went on the record as saying the Nuggets aren't interested.
If he goes to the Pacers... oh dear. :csad:

[L.A.]

I saw a helluva game tonight. Magic/Sixers. The Sixers played hard and made over half their shots, but we played strong D down the stretch. :up:
Dwight Howard is a beast. :wow::up:



I'm pretty sure George Karl went on the record as saying the Nuggets aren't interested.
If he goes to the Pacers... oh dear. :csad:
Thats what all the teams are saying!:confused: I think its BS! Who wouldnt Iverson on there team and besides you can get him cheap now like how Jersey got Carter pretty much for free.

[Ben Urich]

Who wouldnt Iverson on there team

Teams who want to win a title. :o

[L.A.]

Teams who want to win a title. :o
Exactly, which is why he's coming to the Clips! :up: :cool:

[Stringer]

So let me guess; T-Mac's done for the season?

[L.A.]

So let me guess; T-Mac's done for the season?
He's injured again?

[Darkest Knight]

He had back spasms again, he'll be ready for L.A. he said. Back spasms have ruined this kid's career. He had so much promise. Only dude who had a legit shot at challenging Kobe.

[The Riddler]

the rockets need t-mac healthy to get far.

but yao is clearly the team's leader now.

the man is playing mvp caliber basketball.

[Eddie Brock]

Reports have a number of teams interested, including Minnesota, Denver, Boston, Indiana and the Clippers.

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17572750&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=32095&rfi=6
i know, i know.....but it'll suck to see Iverson go.....
granted, i'm not ignorant, i know that the reason we haven't gotten that title is because Allen is too hard to "accesorize", so to speak
but that's because the guy is such a high-caliber player that the ball HAS to be in his hands for a mediocre team (such as Philly) to win

[Ghostvirus]

That article that what the Sixers are looking for is a high draft pick. The Bulls do have the first round option from the knicks. They could use that plus some other uhhmmm stuff. Ahh f**k it! they ain't geting him. I am freaking dreaming.

[Mister J]

SportsCenter just reported that the 76ers spent today evaluating trade offers for Iverson and might deal him as earlier as tomorrow night. They mentioned Minnesota and Denver not really being in contention and the lead teams as the Celtics, the Hornets, the Mavericks, the Knicks and possibly the Lakers.

[Fran]

The Mavericks don't need A.I., nor should they want him.

The Lakers... interesting.

[L.A.]

Who the lakers have that Philly wants? I know they want expiring contracts. Mckie and Mihm have expiring contracts but is that what Philly wants?

[Mister J]

I was surprised to hear their name, but apparently they can offer comparable salaries to make it work. Iverson's style of play really doesn't seem to fit in Dallas. He NEEDS to have the ball the majority of the time and Dallas plays more fluid, cooperative type game. AI is a great player and I think he's versatile enough to fit in anywhere, but it would seem odd to have the type of change that move would necessitate.

This article talks about some of the particulars of the general trade scenario.

Source: Iverson Could Be Traded As Early As Monday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2693389)

[L.A.]

I just check trade checker and the Lakers could trade Brown, Mihm, and Mckie for A.I straight up. I think the Lakers might have to add a 1st round pick to sweeten the pot. But still after all that I think the Clips have a better offer with Livingston and Maggette.

[DarthRekal]

and showtime version 2.0 keeps rollin!:wow:

took out the spurs next up the mavs.. kobe OWNS the mavs..:woot:

about the AI .. trade ..i would take him


but untouchables would be lamar, luke, farmar and kwame..and Y'all know the mamba aint going anywhere .... trade bynum and whoever else.. i would like to keep mo evans too but for AI he could be dealt

[L.A.]

Lakers would have to give up Brown because of A.I huge contract.

[DarthRekal]

naw we could make it work without brown... cook has a big contract.. we could find ways

[Ghostvirus]

*runs off to pray that A.I. ends up in Chicago.*

[L.A.]

naw we could make it work without brown... cook has a big contract.. we could find ways
Than the lakers would have to trade at least 4-5 players? I dont think thats what Philly wants, there's better offers! Like the Clips with Maggette/Livingston for A.I. :D

[L.A.]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 6
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (5) Suns 13-6 Five straight double-doubles for Nash, seven in eight games for Amare and three seasons in a row that Suns have had a win streak of at least 10 games. Ho hum.
2 (4) Spurs 15-6 Top spot was all theirs if Spurs had handled Lakers. The consolation: Manu is back and, easing into it after a back injury, has scored 45 points in his last 44 minutes.
3 (1) Mavericks 14-6 Mavs can deal with a short stay at No. 1. What they're really after is two 20-point scorers every night. Mavs are 7-1 when that happens and 7-5 when it doesn't.
4 (2) Jazz 15-5 To get that elusive 1,000th victory -- and make the story go away -- all Sloan needs is a Boozer double-double. Jazz are 13-1 when Boozer gets one, 2-4 when he doesn't.
5 (6) Lakers 14-6 We repeat: Who needs a smooth training camp? Kobe's Lakers couldn't have finished their forever stay at Staples (16 of 20 games) any stronger, roughing Spurs up.
6 (7) Pistons 13-7 You can't just gloss over losses to Bobcats and Blazers. But you also can't ignore the vintage Dee-troit Bas-ket-ball at Dallas and Orlando in a back-to-back road sweep.
7 (8) Rockets 14-6 Rockets aren't getting too carried away with their fine start. Not with four other teams in the West playing .700 ball, Phoenix right there and T-Mac's back ailing anew.
8 (3) Magic 15-7 Best in the East? OK, maybe not yet. But you can live with a home L to the vets from Detroit, even in a statement game, when D-Howard turns a mere 21 that same night.
9 (18) Timberwolves 10-9 The mere possibility of hooking up with AI appears to have sparked KG, judging by the two huge games he strung together (win vs. Jazz, win at Bulls) after the news broke.
10 (11) Bulls 10-10 An easier schedule certainly helped, but it was still impressive to see Bulls respond to Headbandgate with a 7-0 burst in which they averaged (no joke) 106.4 ppg.
11 (13) Clippers 10-9 Clips are no longer the only team without a road W after conquering Memphis. But no team that started 0-7 on the road has reached the playoffs since Suns in '96-97.
12 (14) Cavaliers 12-7 Facts are facts: Cavs are 7-2 with Hughes and 5-5 without him. So they welcome a healed Hughes back excitedly, whether or not he's a perfect fit next to LeBron.
13 (9) Nuggets 11-7 Nuggets' next four are all away and all in the East. They don't mind, either, because they've been much better on the road, as Pepsi losses to Hawks and Grizz suggest.
14 (12) Warriors 10-11 Those two no-shows in Texas were hideous, but an 0-5 skid in games decided by five points or less hurts worse, including Sunday's fall-from-ahead loss in Seattle.
15 (10) Pacers 11-11 After the last few years, Pacers are used to big letdowns by now. But the Jackson-Carlisle blowup strangely followed Jack's first two 20-point games this season.
16 (16) Heat 8-11 Heat have quietly won four of their past six games, three of those coming on the road, and somehow begin the new week at No. 8 in the East. What a conference.
17 (24) Wizards 9-11 Much, much better. Wiz throttled Dallas, won their first two roadies (in a row, even) and finally saw some consistency from Arenas (four straight games of 30-plus).
18 (26) SuperSonics 10-11 More Ray Allen confusion. To go with that hard-to-believe percentage from 3-point range -- just .312 -- Sonics are 3-0 since Allen went down with an ankle problem.
19 (15) Kings 9-10 Eight wins in November, Muss said, was ''a good month for us.'' But December? Until Joe-less Hawks came to town, it was a winless month for banged-up Kings.
20 (17) Hornets 9-10 If you're looking for teams praying Wolves don't get Iverson, the line starts right here, now that Bobby Jax has joined D-West and Peja on the list of unavailables.
21 (22) Bucks 8-12 Honestly? When I checked Bucks' record and saw they were only four games under .500, I was a bit surprised. With the injuries and such, it feels like more.
22 (27) Trail Blazers 8-14 The anti-Bucks. Blazers have won just two of nine but it seems like more, especially with Randolph up to six 30-point, 10-rebound games, after just two last season.
23 (20) Hawks 8-11 West Coast trip ended with a thud in Sacto, but Marvin W. is back and Hawks, who didn't have four road Ws last season until Feb. 1, are there already.
24 (24) Grizzlies 5-15 The word Jerry West likes to use is impossible. Not just to describe trying to win without Pau, but also the schedule Grizz have faced while Pau's been out injured.
25 (19) Nets 7-12 The lesson from that epic loss to Phoenix? Push the pace, Nets. They're (ugh) 1-9 when held below 100 points, which only adds to L-Frank's increasing woes.
26 (21) Raptors 7-13 A home win over Zach-less Blazers, tipping off at 10 a.m. Portland time, would have put Raps in first place in the Atlantic. But Bosh couldn't go and they couldn't get it.
27 (28) Knicks 8-14 A 2-2 start to a six-game home stand, all against sub-.500 teams, doesn't sound like much ... until you remember that Eddy Curry's Knicks were 1-6 at MSG before that.
28 (29) Celtics 6-13 Here's a question you probably wouldn't have heard a week ago: Does Doc, with Ainge's vote of confidence, now have more security than any coach in the Atlantic?
29 (25) Bobcats 5-15 Tough to enjoy Sean May's resurgence during a Spurs-Rockets-Suns home stand ... and with Okafor slowing a bit ... and with Morrison mired in a 4-for-34 slump.
30 (30) 76ers 5-14 So what will happen first? A win to snap the league's longest active losing streak? Or an Iverson trade? Answer is ... you tell us. But we're leaning toward the W.

[Fran]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2694335

NBA commissioner David Stern, in a stunning reversal, has decided to shelve the new microfiber composite basketball after just a few months of use and switch back to the old leather model for all games starting Jan. 1, according to sources close to the situation.

The decision will be formally announced by the league Tuesday, sources told ESPN.com.

Despite an avalanche of player complaints about the new synthetic model from the first day of training camp in October, skepticism was high among players that Stern would consent to a change during the season. But with a number of prominent players complaining of cuts on their hands caused by the new ball's high-friction cover -- Phoenix's Steve Nash and New Jersey's Jason Kidd among them -- Stern was forced to concede that an in-season swap was unavoidable with the new ball inflicting injuries.

Thank God :up: :up:

[Eddie Brock]

all i can say to you guys is, good luck with Iverson
i love the guy, and watching him go is the single saddest moment in sports history in my lifetime (and i had to endure that Patriots/Eagles Super Bowl)
but he does carry some baggage, and it's hard to build a team around him
hence our problems in Philly...

[rdh007]

Someone on sports talk radio (can't remember who) was making the point that Stern always seems to come up with some sort of rule change or gimmick to get some free publicity for basketball at the beginning of the season when it's up against football. Last year it was the dress code, this year it's the fake ball.

[Mister J]

I'm glad they'll be getting rid of that thing. Hardly anyone seemed to like it and I don't think the League should unilaterally introduce a new ball, without any input from the players.

[NewYorkSpider]

They are going back to the old ball. LMAO! I knew it wouldn't last.

[Eddie Brock]

we should restart the season
those first games were rigged by the ball

jk, but how funny would that be?

[Ben Urich]

But shooting percentages are up....? :huh:
But yeah, the players are complaining that it's tearing up their fingers, so I guess it's a good move. I mean, Steve Nash, usually a reserved guy, spoke out against it.

[Immortalfire]

Goodbye to the fake basketball.

[L.A.]

Yes the new ball is the reason why the clips are struggling!!! I say restart the season again! :mad:

[Eddie Brock]

maybe we can ignore this "trade Iverson" nonsense if we restart.....right?

[Fran]

The Clips just suck, that's all. :)

[Ben Urich]

They cleaned his locker out today, even removed his nameplate.
Hegone.

[Eddie Brock]

They cleaned his locker out today, even removed his nameplate.
Hegone.
i know
and they slapped him on the IA list

yay! i made a sig! lol

[NewYorkSpider]

I say trade Iverson to Minnisota for KG. Both are unhappy where they are. It seems like a decent trade to me.

[Eddie Brock]

I say trade Iverson to Minnisota for KG. Both are unhappy where they are. It seems like a decent trade to me.
i don't know, it shouldn't be about getting a star player, because Philly's gonna suck anyway
they should focus on the draft

[Ben Urich]

KG has said repeatedly that he's happy in Minnesota and doesn't want to be traded.
If anything, the Wolves will trade Randy Foye and some random stiffs to Philly for Iverson and just pair the two together, although that rumor has cooled off a bit.

[NewYorkSpider]

If anything trade him somewhere so they get a decent draft pick. That way they can pick Ohio State's Greg Oden.

[Mister J]

I say trade Iverson to Minnisota for KG. Both are unhappy where they are. It seems like a decent trade to me.
KG's not unhappy in Minnesota. He's unhappy with losing. He doesn't want out, he wants help.

I'd like to see he and AI paired up. Although, Minnesota's name seems to be falling as a prospective landing spot for Iverson everytime some more news breaks.

[Eddie Brock]

If anything trade him somewhere so they get a decent draft pick. That way they can pick Ohio State's Greg Oden.
exactly!
one thing Philly has been lacking is a strong C/PF presence in the blocks
that's why we SUCK at rebounding

[L.A.]

The Clips just suck, that's all. :)
Were better than 85% of the teams in the eastern conference!!!:cool:

[Eddie Brock]

Were better than 85% of the teams in the eastern conference!!!:cool:
the Atlantic Conference is absolutely terrible
and that's an understatement

[L.A.]

If im Billy King I would get the possible offer and right now it doenst get better than Livingston and Maggette!!!

[NewYorkSpider]

KG's not unhappy in Minnesota. He's unhappy with losing. He doesn't want out, he wants help.

I'd like to see he and AI paired up. Although, Minnesota's name seems to be falling as a prospective landing spot for Iverson everytime some more news breaks.

Yeah, i keep hearing Lakers, Bulls, Clippers, and Knicks. The list goes on and on. He and KG teaming up would be an awsome pair.

[L.A.]

the Atlantic Conference is absolutely terrible
and that's an understatement
Your right, its probably about 95%!!!

[Eddie Brock]

If im Billy King I would get the possible offer and right now it doenst get better than Livingston and Maggette!!!
you just want AI!

[NewYorkSpider]

I can't believe no team is over .500 in that division.

[Fran]

The East, compared to the West, is just a laughingstock.

[Eddie Brock]

I can't believe no team is over .500 in that division.
well...it's all that damn ball's fault!
lol

[L.A.]

you just want AI!
Yes I want A.I. but im not sure if we should give up livingston for him. I still think Livingston will be a great PG and I still believe in him. but I think hoopsworld said it best! "
The best trade for the Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_19832.shtml#): Iverson to the Clippers for Shaun Livingston (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_19832.shtml#), Corey Maggette and either Cuttino Mobley or Tim Thomas.
The reason this one would be so appealing to the Sixers (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_19832.shtml#) is Livingston, the silky 6-7 point guard who is still improving and is only 22 years old. He's the anti-Iverson in that he won't dominate the basketball and will get his teammates involved, and the Sixers still have some players remaining for Livingston to get the ball to.
Maggette is young enough (27) to remain intriguing. As long as he can stay healthy he is going to constantly attack the basket and get to the foul line for easy points. He's also athletic and can run the floor with the best of them.
Mobley or Thomas would only be necessary to make the deal work financially, but Mobley is a Philadelphia native who is still productive, while Thomas attended Villanova and spent his first two seasons in Philly.
The 76ers might need a draft pick tossed in (maybe a 2008 pick to coincide with the eventual departure of Chris Webber) and would have to be convinced that the core of Livingston, Maggette, Andre Iguodala, Kyle Korver, Samuel Dalembert and Willie Green is good enough to compete in the Eastern Conference while they look for a big man in the next two drafts. At the very least the Sixers will have plenty of attractive swingmen to move elsewhere and complete their team with different parts. "

http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_19832.shtml

[NewYorkSpider]

well...it's all that damn ball's fault!
lol

I guess we have too blame everything on the ball. :cwink:
lol

[LastSunrise1981]

Damn, the Jazz straight out punked the Mavs tonight. :csad: :wow:

Hopefully Dallas will play smarter and better this Wednesday against the Lakers.

[Ghostvirus]

Wells Stern's switching balls. on Jan. 1st.
http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2694335&name=FPT-2694335-121224&srvc=sz

[Stringer]

^About freakin time

[The Riddler]

rockets versus lakers twice this week!

gonna be a good matchup, though t-mac is probably out.

who to root for?

[NewYorkSpider]

Did anybody see the guy at halftime where he hit a half-court shot during the Clippers and Spurs game? Lucky Bastard.

[L.A.]

Did anybody see the guy at halftime where he hit a half-court shot during the Clippers and Spurs game? Lucky Bastard.
The Clips could use that guy!:( but A.I would be better.

[NewYorkSpider]

The Clips could use that guy!:( but A.I would be better.

Poor Clippers. They need a star player like A.I. Something to at least give the team a spark. My Cavs lost tonight.:csad:

[L.A.]

Warriors,Celtics and TWolves trying to get Charlotte,Bulls,Dallas and Clippers involved in 3 way deals for Iverson. All 2 way deal offers have been submitted. The 3 way or higher deals that teams are trying to concoct are due by noon today. Its either today or Friday....depending on if any players that were signed in the offseason are in the deal.

The Clippers DID NOT offer Shaun Livington, but did offer maggette.
The Celtics DID NOT offer Jefferson or Green or Gomes in their offer.
The Warriors DID NOT offer Monta Ellis but offered Baron..to which the Sixers quickly said no thanks.
The Pacers DID offer Tinsley and SJax in a package to which we said no.
The Grizz dropped out of the running.
Dallas was never in the running.
Orlando was never in the running.
While Webber could be moved near the trade deadline, he will not be moved now.
Sixers are trying to include Dalembert in the Iverson deal, but its NOT a deal breaker.

The Sixers rank the two way offers they received in the order of:
Kings
Celtics
Clippers
Celtics
TWolves
Pacers
Warriors


If a three way offer doesnt satisfy them by noon today.....they plan to accept the Kings offer of Bibby,Garcia,Williamson,#1 for Iverson,Ollie

[Mister J]

Interesting. I hear Iverson favors Minnesota and Boston, but I don't think that'll factor into the decision much. Maybe this thing gets wrapped up tomorrow.

Rockets Lose McGrady Indefinitely With Back Spasms (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2695188)
Lakers' Odom Sprains Knee; Could Miss A Month (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2695675)
Heat's Wade To Miss At Least One Game After Oral Surgery (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2695329)

Can't say I'm really surprised about T-Mac. His damn back is going to kill his career. Who knows how long he'll be out. The Odom thing is real jacked up. Lamar had finally found his role in the system and the results on the court were undeniable. The Wade deal isn't anywhere the other news, but that's likely to be an ugly game in Phoenix tomorrow.

[L.A.]

The A.I trade is postponed until the 15th...

[L.A.]

The Clippers are willing to include Maggette as the centerpiece of a proposal for Iverson — the NBA's most valuable player in 2001 — and another of Philadelphia's perimeter players who could contribute in the Clippers' rotation, the team sources said. The 76ers, however, are determined to acquire Livingston in a trade — and that's a deal-breaker for the Clippers.

The Clippers have told the 76ers that Elton Brand, Chris Kaman and Livingston are not available. But other team members were included in the discussions.



Quote:
In the off-season, the Clippers rejected the 76ers' proposal of trading Iverson for Maggette and Livingston, and Clippers officials Tuesday reiterated their unwillingness to send the fourth-year, 6-foot-7 point guard to Philadelphia, even for a four-time league scoring champion. The Clippers plan to offer Livingston a multiyear contract extension in the summer.

[DarthRekal]

dang losing lamar is gonna hurt real bad.. we be lucky to go .500 on this roadtrip filled month :csad:


hurry back lamar


we need a big game tonight we almost gave it up last night :wow:

[Mister J]

Bill Simmons has an excellent article over at ESPN.com about the whole Iverson thing.

Don't Question the Answer (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061213)

[Ghostvirus]

Mister J - Have you heard that Miami is pulling in as dark horse to actually get Iverson. I can't imagine why anyone would want to give one team Iverson, Wade, & Shaq. Jesus! I cry just thinking about it.

[Mister J]

I did hear rumblings of it, but I don't put too much stock into it. I'd love it if it were to happen (as should anybody if AI goes to their team), but Miami has cap issues and I think that damn Mitch Kupchak took all the decent draft picks for a while. I just don't see it. Although, Riley has been attributed in saying the with the development of Dorrell Wright and Jason Kapono, it gives some flexibility in the frontcourt. Who knows how this thing will play out.

[Ben Urich]

The Magic lost at home to the Raptors, who were without Chris Bosh. They've lost 4 of their last 5 and haven't scored over 100 in 11 games. :down
What the ****, guys? Seriously. :huh::csad:

Can't say I'm really surprised about T-Mac. His damn back is going to kill his career. Who knows how long he'll be out.

No kidding. Once, when Doc Rivers was coaching the Magic and was asked about T-Mac, he said something like "back injuries never go away. Feet and hands heal, you can have surgery for that... but I've been in this league for a lot of years and I've never known anyone whose back problems just went away."

[LastSunrise1981]

Who said Kobe owns the Mavericks now? Mavericks won tonight against the Lakers. Please, don't use the Lamar Odom being gone excuse. You'd be just as happy if the Lakers beat the Mavs without Dirk, Terry, or even Howard.

A great and much needed victory after losing to Detroit and Utah.

[Erundur]

sweet Wizards over the Nuggets 120 to 91 :up::D:cool:

[DarthRekal]

Who said Kobe owns the Mavericks now? Mavericks won tonight against the Lakers. Please, don't use the Lamar Odom being gone excuse. You'd be just as happy if the Lakers beat the Mavs without Dirk, Terry, or even Howard.

A great and much needed victory after losing to Detroit and Utah.

kobe still owns the mavericks! 33 pts 9-18 shooting pretty much owned! if we get one more teammate to show up its a w!( can you say LAMAR?)

Lamar being gone an excuse??!?!??! you know damn well thats L in your column if odom plays ahahahahh take your one win..
but for someone who cries refs controversy you sure dont mind that we got hacked in the paint all night and got nary a call

while howard and dirk get breathed on and whistles away!:word: :ninja: (it didnt matter much and i'm not using it as an excuse we woulda lost anyway, but call it like it is)

god lastsunrise i used to think you were credible and mister j was just a homer but i see now that i was wrong.....

haterade swims through your veins(i fergot you cant lose with class i shouldnt expect you to win with class either) and j is an honest guy

i hate the mavs not cause they are good but they have so much heart and fire i LOVE j terry and josh howard... but god do they fold where was this last year in the finals?

[Ghostvirus]

kobe still owns the mavericks! 33 pts 9-18 shooting pretty much owned! if we get one more teammate to show up its a w!( can you say LAMAR?)

Lamar being gone an excuse??!?!??! you know damn well thats L in your column if odom plays ahahahahh take your one win..
but for someone who cries refs controversy you sure dont mind that we got hacked in the paint all night and got nary a call

while howard and dirk get breathed on and whistles away!:word: :ninja: (it didnt matter much and i'm not using it as an excuse we woulda lost anyway, but call it like it is)

god lastsunrise i used to think you were credible and mister j was just a homer but i see now that i was wrong.....

haterade swims through your veins(i fergot you cant lose with class i shouldnt expect you to win with class either) and j is an honest guy

i hate the mavs not cause they are good but they have so much heart and fire i LOVE j terry and josh howard... but god do they fold where was this last year in the finals?

Could the Mavs be the Colts of the NBA?!?!:wow: :ninja:

[Ultimate_Superman]

sweet Wizards over the Nuggets 120 to 91 :up::D:cool:The Wizards are doing good but they can be so much better

[L.A.]

TEAM (LAST WK) REC. BREAKDOWN
1 Phoenix (5) 15-6 Sure, the Suns have only beaten two teams with a record better than .500 on their 12-game streak, but no slip-ups — even on the road for four — is impressive no less.
2 San Antonio (3) 17-6 The Spurs are big winners of late. For the first time in franchise history, they won three straight games by 20-plus, then repeated the feat vs. the Clips after a loss to Lakers.
3 Utah (2) 17-5 Congratulations, Coach Sloan. It's been 22 seasons in the making, but now you can focus on win No. 1,002 on Friday vs. Sacramento.
4 Dallas (1) 15-7 Since rattling off 12 straight wins, the Mavs cooled before last night's win over L.A., dropping three of five, while posting only 91.0 ppg on 42 percent shooting.
5 Detroit (6) 13-8 It's a pretty simple concept, really: Move the ball and good things happen. Detroit is 10-2 when it registers 20-plus assists in a game; 3-6 when it doesn't.

TEAM (LAST WK) REC. BREAKDOWN
6 L.A. Lakers (7) 15-7 Good news: Kobe's saying his knee is 100 percent. Bad news: Lamar's is keeping him out until mid-January.
7 Orlando (4) 15-9 After a strong showing out west, the Magic come home and drop three of four at the newly named Amway Arena? Time to turn things around as eight of the next 11 are there, too.
8 Houston (8) 14-7 No lead is safe in the NBA, just ask the Rockets reserves who led Houston back from a 27-point hole vs. the Lakers to nearly steal the game Tuesday.
9 Chicago (12) 12-10 Winning nine of the last 10 is nice. Ben Wallace's play over the last five — and especially last night — is better.
10 Denver (9) 12-8 Nuggets have dropped two of three on the road, with stops at Boston and New York awaiting this week.
11 Cleveland (10) 13-8 Welcome back, Larry. Making his first start since turning his ankle a month ago, Hughes picked Brevin Knight's pocket to preserve the Cavs win Wednesday.
12 Minnesota (19) 10-10 The Wolves streak ended at four games with a trip to San Antonio; the team hasn't won five straight in more than a year.
13 Golden State (11) 11-11 Trade winds swirl around Oakland, but, if Chris Mullin is to pull the trigger on a deal, he might want to hang on to this kid, whose torn it up the last month — especially in Ws.
14 Indiana (14) 12-12 It's a tale of two teams for the Pacers, who are 7-2 at home — including five straight Ws — this season and 5-10 on the road. Home games vs. the Knicks and Jazz await.
15 L.A. Clippers (15) 10-11 What next for NBA.com blogger and Clips big man Chris Kaman? First a hamstring, then an ankle and this week food poisoning all have kept him off the court.
16 NO/Okla City (13) 10-10 The Hornets are headed home to New Orleans for two this week, but home probably won't prove to be too comfortable with Spurs and Mavs visiting.
17 Washington (16) 10-11 The Wiz seem to have the ship righted since a 4-9 start to the season. Arenas and Co. picked up two straight road wins — their first -- and routed Dallas and Denver.
18 Portland (24) 10-14 Roy, once a front-runner for the ROY, could return as early as Friday vs. the Clippers or next Wednesday vs. Houston.
19 New Jersey (18) 9-12 The barnburner with Phoenix must have lit a fire under Jason Kidd, who has posted three triple-doubles in the past four games, giving him 80 for his career.
20 Miami (21) 9-12 Shaq's now saying it could be early January before he returns, which is okay as long as the Heat continues to play .500 ball.
21 Sacramento (17) 9-11 I'm warning y'all, don't look at this. Losers of six-of-seven in December, the Kings have a tough slate of games this week.
22 Milwaukee (22) 9-13 Wednesday's nine-point outing at New Jersey snapped a streak of 101 straight games in which Michael Redd posted double figures.
23 Seattle (23) 10-13 Think the Sonics could have used Ray down the stretch of the Bucks loss? The team couldn't score in the final 90 seconds nor get a game-winning try off at the buzzer.
24 Boston (29) 8-13 Iverson in green — as slim as the chances may have become — would instantly vault the Cs even higher than the team's three straight Ws have.
25 Atlanta (20) 8-13 J.J.'s missed three straight, but could be back Friday at Memphis or Saturday vs. the Bulls.
26 New York (27) 9-15 Zeke has the entire season to do something … well, presumably something better than the .375 winning percentage the team's currently demonstrating.
27 Toronto (26) 8-14 Top pick Bargnani delivered the club just its third road win all season, in his best outing as a pro, by drilling all four fourth-quarter triple tries.
28 Memphis (28) 5-17 The light at the end of the tunnel just got brighter, with Pau Gasol telling NBA.com he's hoping to be back on the court this week.
29 Charlotte (25) 5-16 Waiting to see rookie Adam Morrison? Tonight's the night as the team hosts Orlando on TNT at 7 ET. Bad news is the Bobcats have lost each of the last three at home by 20-plus.
30 Philadelphia (30) 5-16 A win this week doesn't look too promising; Stops at Dallas and San Antonio await, as does a visit from the Pacers.

[DarthRekal]

i aint gonna lie its gonna be rough without lamar.. kobe is the man and all but the offense and team chem is running thru LO..

id be happy to go .500 without him...:csad:

hopefully if luke steps up and kinda fills the role we should be alright ...

[Ultimate_Superman]

Kobe is a one man team and always will be I am not fooled by him passing the ball lately. Very soon they will become the LA Bryants again. Hell they would have became them on Christmas if not for Shaq being hurt.

[Fran]

I really wouldn't listen to LS1981, he's just cocky. Nice sig, M_C :up:

[DarthRekal]

Kobe is a one man team and always will be I am not fooled by him passing the ball lately. Very soon they will become the LA Bryants again. Hell they would have became them on Christmas if not for Shaq being hurt.

you will see too...

all you will see... jordan didnt learn the "team" game til around the same age kobe is... it's called maturation....


*crosses fingers hopes kobe doesnt jack up 72 shots next game(unless the ALL go in:woot: )*

[LastSunrise1981]

I really wouldn't listen to LS1981, he's just cocky. Nice sig, M_C :up:

I am not cocky at all. Rekal said Kobe owned the Mavs and that the Lakers would destroy the Mavs, so I called him out on it after Dallas won the game afterwards.

M.C. will take that sig down when Dallas beats Chicago.

[Fran]

Well, you're a little too, let's say, "excited." Last time I checked, the Mavs were second in the division :huh:

I'm not bragging to no end about my Pistons (who seem to be overrated according to your wise :rolleyes: observations), but are giving Cleveland a tough time.

[Ben Urich]

Injuries are killing the Magic.
We dropped one to Charlotte. Keyon Dooling was our leading scorer and Darko Milicic lead us in assists :huh:
We let Andrea Bargnani have a career game last night and let Sean May have one tonight. Adam Morrison had 22 off the bench.
****in' a. :csad:

[LastSunrise1981]

Well, you're a little too, let's say, "excited." Last time I checked, the Mavs were second in the division :huh:

I'm not bragging to no end about my Pistons (who seem to be overrated according to your wise :rolleyes: observations), but are giving Cleveland a tough time.

I can't be happy because my favorite team is winning? What logic. :whatever:

[Fran]

I can't be happy because my favorite team is winning? What logic. :whatever:

I never said "Don't be happy because your team is winning," did I? :whatever:

The problem I have with you is that you call the Pistons overrated, when they have exceeded expectations :huh:

[LastSunrise1981]

Mavs win again tonight. Obviously it wasn't much of a match against a Sixers team without Iverson or Webber.

Still a win is a win.

[Eddie Brock]

all tonight did was show me what the Sixers will look like for the next 2-3 years till a star emerges

[Mister J]

...or until King resigns. He's horrible. King should be thankful for the presence of Rob Babcock and Isiah Thomas as GM during his tenure to distract from his futility.

[Ben Urich]

Lakers are battling back against the Rockets. :csad:

[Eddie Brock]

...or until King resigns. He's horrible. King should be thankful for the presence of Rob Babcock and Isiah Thomas as GM during his tenure to distract from his futility.
ha! "resigns"! after this season, people will be calling for his head! he'll be run out of this town!

[L.A.]

What a game???!!!

[Ben Urich]

This has been a fantastic game. :up:
Let's hope the Rockets pull it out. :up:

[Mister J]

I'm with you guys. This is ****in' great.

edit: Goddamn, Mamba. :wow:

[Ben Urich]

As much as I hate Mamba.... that reverse jam was pretty impressive. :csad::up:
Rockets in a heap of trouble. :csad:

[NewYorkSpider]

Just turned it over to the game. What's been happening?

[Ben Urich]

Just turned it over to the game. What's been happening?

The Lakers were down 21 earlier and are now gonna win. :csad:
Smush Parker is on fire. :huh:

[NewYorkSpider]

The Lakers were down 21 earlier and are now gonna win. :csad:
Smush Parker is on fire. :huh:

Interesting. It looks like Kobe is on fire too. 51 points.

[Ben Urich]

Wow.
The Rockets manage only 2 points in the second overtime.
They've gotta feel ****ty. :csad:
Did you see that loss at Golden State last night? Yao attempting a game-winning fadeaway 3 at the buzzer? :huh:

[The Riddler]

the reason yao takes the game winner: his team is a bunch of scrubs.

yao is playing mvp caliber basketball and is a lot like kobe was last year, in a sense: a one man team.

since when does a center always take the game winner?

t-mac needs to return, but bonzi looks good in his limited play.

if the rockets can get healthy a few games before the playoffs, their team will be loaded.

yao, t-mac, bonzi, along with luther head emerging.

t-mac is the key; yao is the leader but he needs help.

[Ghostvirus]

The Bulls won again last night. Wallace had 27 rebound, 10 Points, & 6 Assists. wow!

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't see why everyone is so hung up on the Lakers. Kobe is a talented player for sure, but in the end, all of that scoring isn't going to save the Lakers from elimination come playoff time.

Spurs or the Mavericks will be the ones to take them out.

[Ben Urich]

The Bulls won again last night. Wallace had 27 rebound, 10 Points, & 6 Assists. wow!

27 boards? :huh:
Goddamn! :wow:

[DarthRekal]

relax with all the haterism sunrise.. have you watched any lakers games besides the mavs one...?

they are playing team ball!.. good team ball.. and at times the defense can be stifling.. we beat the spurs by thirteen

have overcome 20 pt defecits in the third qtr on more than one occasion...

and if lamar was playin that game y'all lose bet the house on it..

we were coming off a back to back and the emotional drain along with sudden change in both defensive and offensive flow equate to confusion... we were never able to overcome your offensive onslaught... next time we meet will not happen again and after last year.. i seriously doubt the mavs heart... i seen kobe rip it out of dirk more often than not....

okay maybe i'm being a bit biased ..point is that wasn't our full strength squad physically and mentally.. and yes ODOM makes that much difference
stop hating...

kobe's dunk was ill.. but the pass that kwame blew was better!

and thats my point its not just the kobe's anymore

it's showtime version 2!

and glad to see you root for us ben :woot:

i'm not sayin we will win it all this year .. i know in a series the spurs, suns and yes the mavs have TOO many weapons and our squad is still too young.. but give us a another year we have a shot at the OBrien for sure

[The Riddler]

can anyone tell me with a straight face that yao isn't the best center in the league?

i remember last year when i said that a lot of you fools didn't respect the fact.

there is no longer any denying that fact.

the only thing i can ask for is that the nba refs start officiating him fairly. kwame and bynum were all over him, shoving him with two hands consistently and pushing him on shots.

nba refereeing is one of the worst aspects of the game.

[L.A.]

When Greg Oden comes out next year he will no longer be the best!!!

[Ben Urich]

can anyone tell me with a straight face that yao isn't the best center in the league?

i remember last year when i said that a lot of you fools didn't respect the fact.

there is no longer any denying that fact.

the only thing i can ask for is that the nba refs start officiating him fairly. kwame and bynum were all over him, shoving him with two hands consistently and pushing him on shots.

nba refereeing is one of the worst aspects of the game.

Kwame clearly fouled Yao on that one baseline jumper, but Yao also caught a break on a blocked shot that should have been goaltending.
But yeah, you'd think after 5 years he'd start getting some of those calls.

When Greg Oden comes out next year he will no longer be the best!!!

Just keep telling yourself that. :o

[LastSunrise1981]

can anyone tell me with a straight face that yao isn't the best center in the league?

i remember last year when i said that a lot of you fools didn't respect the fact.

there is no longer any denying that fact.

the only thing i can ask for is that the nba refs start officiating him fairly. kwame and bynum were all over him, shoving him with two hands consistently and pushing him on shots.

nba refereeing is one of the worst aspects of the game.

That's exactly what I've been saying, but of course, I'm doing nothing but whining when I talk about how horrible the NBA officiating is.

The Lakers have had the ultimate fortune of having almost all of their games at home in Staples.

[DarthRekal]

yeah he was roughed up last night...

but kobe was the other night against the mavs and nothing happened so any given night i guess its what officiating crew you get


and sunrise sheesh man get off the hate wagon..
yeah we been at home but everybody gets 41 home games..

you still gotta win them

[LastSunrise1981]

yeah he was roughed up last night...

but kobe was the other night against the mavs and nothing happened so any given night i guess its what officiating crew you get


and sunrise sheesh man get off the hate wagon..
yeah we been at home but everybody gets 41 home games..

you still gotta win them

I've never been sold on the Lakers. Granted, Kobe is a talented player who is fun to watch when he catches fire, but all in all he's still a selfish player who wants the glory to himself.

I know it's eating at him inside that Shaq won a fourth ring without him, but then again, that's eating up inside of me too. :cmad: :csad:

You still have to win them but it's alot easier to win at home than it is to go out on the road and face tough teams on their home floor.

[DarthRekal]

tell that to the knicks and the likes.. NBA game is an NBA game and win you win against the likes of UTAH,PHOENIX,SAN ANTONIO, HOUSTON

those arent EASY home games ask anyone in the league..
and dont judge this latest road swing we are about to embark on as a true test.. wait til we have lamar then decide ...i'm not tryin to recruit you..i'm just sayin stop bashing every chance you get i get it you think kobe's a ballhog even though he's lead the team in assists four about the last 6 yrs..yes even when shaq was here... one of the most famous plays in laker lore is an ASSIST to shaq.. and if they kept track of passes made to teammates whose then said teammates bricked the shot he would lead the league in such a stat

be fair is all and stop hating.. if you had the same home heavy schedule and won most you'd be on cloud nine ...

[Ben Urich]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=261216018

10 players ejected with about a minute to play during the Nuggets' win over the Knicks at the Garden. :wow:
That was a nasty foul... and DAMN, Jared Jeffries is STRONG! :wow:

[Mister J]

I have seen it yet but you can best believe Godfather Stern is gonna bring the hammer down all kinds of hard on this. I just shake my head at this every time it happens ...then I usually laugh at the carnage. Some serious fines/suspensions are coming out of this.

[Stringer]

Yeah Carmelo may be out for awhile, but man he did some damage to Collins. He dropped him with that punch.

[Mister J]

OK. What the hell was Nate Robinson's little ass doing in the middle of all this? :whatever:

Damn. All 10 players on the court got tossed? I thought somebody came off the bench.

[Lobo]

what a mess at the Garden :( and that was a cheap shot by Melo, I kinda wanted see Jeffries get over to him :O

[Stringer]

Ah Collins left himself open for it. You dont get in someones face talking stuff with no kind of defense up whatsoever. Youre just begging to get rocked, which is what happened lol

[Ghostvirus]

WOW! The whole nugget team may have just screwed themselves out of getting Iverson. I mean you can't trade players that have suspensions right?

[Mister J]

Ah Collins left himself open for it. You dont get in someones face talking stuff with no kind of defense up whatsoever. Youre just begging to get rocked, which is what happened lol
That's pretty much the rule. You don't run up on someone like that to talk.

[L.A.]

Anybody got a video link?

[cyborg ninja 14]

Compared the the Palace of 04', tonights brawl seems weak in comparison:o

[L.A.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHI2HYE2J0A

[Ben Urich]

Anybody got a video link?

It's on the link I posted. :o

[Mister J]

Carmelo looked like a real punk, tossing a sucker punch and then backpedaling like he was dropping off in a Prevent defense. :down

[Ben Urich]

Apropos of nothing, but the Spurs have got to change their uniforms. :down

Carmelo looked like a real punk, tossing a sucker punch and then backpedaling like he was dropping off in a Prevent defense. :down

Stern should really make an example of him. 10 games, please.

[Mister J]

Something like that would be deserved. It's not even a situation that can be described as 'heated'. That was a calculated move. He even backed off for a while and then sneaked his way back into range. That's bush league.

[The Riddler]

When Greg Oden comes out next year he will no longer be the best!!!
oh please.

oden isn't even dominating in college.

sure he's doing very well, but he isn't totally dominating college kids.

once he gets into the nba, he's gonna have to adjust like everyone else has.

also, success is not guaranteed, no matter how much hype you get.

[L.A.]

Hey hype is everything!!! Oden has almost the same hype as Lebron James did when he was in high school!!! He will be the best center next year!!! You can quote me on that!

[Ben Urich]

Hey hype is everything!!!

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/bowie0916.jpg

Sam Bowie disagrees. :o

[L.A.]

I meant Superherohype dammit!:mad:

[NewYorkSpider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHI2HYE2J0A

Holy Crap!!!:wow: I heard about this tonight, but didn't see it.

[L.A.]

Damn just saw the live game of it and man was that smack loud:D Melo running like a lil ***** he is!!!

[Darkest Knight]

Nate Robinson got sonned, like the lil biatch he is.

[LastSunrise1981]

Mavericks won again last night. :up: :up: I am very happy about the wins even though they were against subpar teams.

That brawl between Denver/New York was nothing. But Carmelo should've gotten his ass kicked.

[Ben Urich]

I think Isaiah Thomas had a point. In the postgame press conference, he was asked what he said to Carmelo at midcourt after the brawl. He basically said that the Nuggets were up 20 points with 2 minutes to play and the Knicks had no chance of winning. So he wondered what Carmelo and Marcus Camby were doing on the floor in the first place.

[Mister J]

There's a certain validity to that, but it's still no invitation for thuggery. If they were pissed at getting embarrassed like that, then they should have played harder. Man up and embarrass their ass the next time you play. Settle it within the context of the game. Carmelo deserves the worst punishment, but the idiot who tried to bulldog Smith on the breakaway and that idiot Nate Robinson should get the most severe suspension/fine after that.

Seems like lazy ass officiating too. There's no way all 10 players who were on the court did enough to all warrant getting tossed. Some of those guys were just standing around and/or trying to diffuse the thing, which seemed to be happening until the League's leading scorer/MTV VJ-marrying wonder pulled a ***** move.

edit: Nuggets officials are saying Thomas told Anthony that it wouldn't be a good idea to go into the paint. If it turns out that Isiah instructed the Knicks to make a hard foul, Stern should drop the hammer on his ass too.

[Mister J]

WOW! The whole nugget team may have just screwed themselves out of getting Iverson. I mean you can't trade players that have suspensions right?
This is as best an answer as I could find. Last I heard, the Nuggets were the slim leader over Minnesota and Boston, with a couple of other teams as dark horses. I know the Sixers want to get this done as soon as possible. It might factor in.
Can players be traded while serving a suspension?
This is a pertinent question given Denver's well-chronicled pursuit of Allen Iverson.
The answer?
It appears to be, in the words of one Western Conference executive reached Saturday night, "a gray area."
It's believed that there is no language in the NBA's operations manual that specifically deals with teams' ability to trade a suspended player. The teams would likely require special permission from the league office if a player suspended for his actions Saturday night is needed by the Nuggets to complete an Iverson trade in coming days.

[Memphis Slim]

What do you guys think of this??



Bob Kravitz
Oden should (and next year will) be playing at the professional level
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Heaven forbid Greg Oden gets hurt. Heaven forbid the Next Great Big Man falls the wrong way, tweaks one of those precious knees, sees the chance to take care of himself and his family for generations to come undercut by one unfortunate move.
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Big man: Greg Oden dominated Saturday in his third game for Ohio State despite still wearing a cast on his right hand. - MATT KRYGER / The Star

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Will the NBA and commissioner David Stern, who took away any choice Oden might have had to eschew college and go straight to the NBA, set up a fund to ensure him financial freedom for the rest of his days?
Let me offer an answer there:
No.
A couple million times, no.
"I don't know how you can take a young man's right to make a living away,'' said Jack Keefer, Oden's Lawrence North High School coach, as he watched Oden's Ohio State Buckeyes blow out Cincinnati in the Wooden Tradition on Saturday at Conseco Fieldhouse. "It's one thing in football; nobody's ever shown they can go from high school to the pros and be successful. But it's been proven in basketball, over and over again, that a kid can go from high school to the NBA with no problem.
"Greg should have had that right.''
Just like Kobe Bryant and LeBron James and Jermaine O'Neal. Just like Kevin Garnett and Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire. Just like the multitudes of high-school graduates who make the leap without turning into Leon Smith or Korleone Young, two troubled souls who likely would have struggled whether they'd spent 10 minutes or 10 years in college.
How come nobody ever rolls out the cautionary tale of Chris Marcus, the 7-footer who was bound for the NBA before a knee injury suffered at Western Kentucky destroyed his basketball career?
As great as it was to see Oden perform at the next level Saturday afternoon, as inspiring as it was to see him dominate Ohio State's game against Cincinnati with his right hand in a cast and his conditioning still an issue after playing just three games since his hand injury, it was impossible to avoid the obvious question:
What the heck is he doing out here playing college basketball?
While Buckeyes coach Thad Matta benefits, while Ohio State benefits by selling out all its Big Ten games at its new arena, while TV benefits from showing Oden's -- and Mike Conley's -- homecoming, Oden gets . . . what, exactly?
Heaven forbid he gets hurt. Because he belongs in the NBA. He belongs in the NBA right now, and not because he's an 18-year-old who happens to look like he's 38. Ask any scout, and he'll tell you Oden would have been the first pick in the NBA draft after his junior year of high school.
"He knows he's ready,'' Keefer said. "When he went to watch the U.S. Olympic Team practice in Las Vegas (this summer), he came back and for the first time, he said, 'Coach, I really think I'm as good as some of those guys.' That's the first time I've ever heard him saying something like that."
For years, Oden has been telling basketball people not only what he believed, but what they wanted to hear. That he wanted to attend college, that he required a year or two of physical and emotional maturation. And he wasn't being disingenuous. He was the most self-effacing mega-talent you could ever come across.
But he hurt that right hand in the latter part of his senior year of high school. And his tenor changed.
What if that had been a more serious injury? What if it had been a knee?
Suffice to say, he is a one-year-and-done proposition in Columbus.
"If there was any doubt about that, once he hurt his hand (in the high school sectionals last year), that chased away any doubt,'' Keefer said. "That injury definitely scared him. And I understand that. The risks are just too high.''
For now, Oden is approaching his college career the way everybody expected he would. He's taking every day seriously, on the court and on campus. Given the choice, he would have gone to the NBA rather than college -- don't believe otherwise -- but he's not on campus simply taking up space until Stern calls his name.
"He's putting the time in; he's putting the effort in,'' Matta said.
You wonder, though, how much better is he going to get playing against teams such as Cincinnati, which doesn't have a single player who can compete with Oden in the post?
There will be a huge game next week, Ohio State and defending national champion Florida, and Oden won't be able to make the Gators' offense disappear simply with his overarching presence.
By and large, though, he's out of his league here in college.
He belongs in the NBA.
He belongs there now.

[DarthRekal]

wtf!?? IS UP WITH THOSE GOD AWFUL UGLY WIZARDS UNI'S???:huh:

[Fran]

Pistons #1 seed in East at 15-8.

Pwnt.

[L.A.]

I think there cute:confused:

[Ben Urich]

wtf!?? IS UP WITH THOSE GOD AWFUL UGLY WIZARDS UNI'S???:huh:

They seriously need to go. :down

[DarthRekal]

lakers look asleep... no d

and the wiz look energetic

i feel an L coming on

this is why we miss Odom

when kobes on the bench everyone else gets lethargic:o

[LastSunrise1981]

lakers look asleep... no d

and the wiz look energetic

i feel an L coming on

this is why we miss Odom

when kobes on the bench everyone else gets lethargic:o

Sure, blame everything on everyone else. Nothing is ever Kobe's fault. :o

I thought Kobe was supposed to make everyone better? :huh:

[Ben Urich]

I think Kobe tops my list of athletes who need to die. :down

[DarthRekal]

here you go.. read the post fool

kobe sat on the bench ..which means he cant hog the ball,make plays or score.. let alone assist play defense or energize the other players



now with that said the lakers were down by three when he sat down now then they were down by 12 at the half..how is that kobe's fault..


stop drinking the haterade... it only proves my point more:whatever: