2006-2007 NBA Thread

[Mister J]

Ray Allen had 54 and it hasn't been blasted all over SportsCenter? :huh:

[DBella]

Ray Allen had 54 and it hasn't been blasted all over SportsCenter? :huh:
The game just ended a couple of minutes ago. So maybe later? They better blast that all over SportsCenter, darn it!

Anyway, I'm gonna go watch kickboxing now coz I'm so happy I could kick someone. :up:

[Mister J]

Such beautiful violence. :heart:

[Mister J]

You don't see this every day...

Ref Suspended For Obscene Gesture, Language to Fans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2729622)

[Fran]

The game just ended a couple of minutes ago. So maybe later? They better blast that all over SportsCenter, darn it!

Anyway, I'm gonna go watch kickboxing now coz I'm so happy I could kick someone. :up:

Wow... just... awesome. :O:up:

You don't see this every day...

Ref Suspended For Obscene Gesture, Language to Fans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2729622)

ROFL.

[LastSunrise1981]

I was looking at the schedule for the Mavericks and they have some interesting games ahead of them.

Tomorrow: @Toronto
Jan 16: Houston
January 18: Los Angeles(Lakers)
January 21: Miami(The game that will definitely be a dogfight. Dallas was screwed over by the officials and you know they're looking for revenge on the 21st.)
January 23: @ Orlando
January 25: @ Chicago
January 27: Sacramento

Very interesting line up and I believe the toughest one will be Houston, Los Angeles, Orlando, and Miami. All of those games will be very tough and exciting more than likely.

But yes, how about them Mavs? Seems like the commentators and the opposing fans don't like talking about them, especially since they're on a winning streak and might end up with the best record in the West. I also read that Dirk rolled his ankle last night.

[Fran]

They'll beat Toronto, beat Houston, a toughie vs. the Lakers (although at home), beat Miami, beat Orlando, the Chicago one will be tough, beat Sacramento.

Is Dirk going to be out for any games or was it just a small injury?

[LastSunrise1981]

They'll beat Toronto, beat Houston, a toughie vs. the Lakers (although at home), beat Miami, beat Orlando, the Chicago one will be tough, beat Sacramento.

Is Dirk going to be out for any games or was it just a small injury?

He's expected to play tomorrow. But he returned last night after rolling it during the game and carried the Mavs to victory.

But seriously, he continues rolling his ankle and I'm surprised/thankful that it hasn't broke. Guess it's hard to not roll it with all those feet on the floor when going for a rebound.

I hope in the game against Houston, Dirk and T-Mac have another classic shootout with both reaching 50 points again.

[Fran]

That's a good possibility.

My poor Pistons are reeling... Chauncey's absence is being shown BIG TIME.

[Ben Urich]

Here's what I don't understand about the Magic game last night:
Okay, they're down 2. Dwight Howard is on the line with a chance to tie. He misses both free throws. Kobe gets the rebound. There are about 40 seconds left at this point.
SO WHY THE BLOODY HELL DID THEY WAIT UNTIL 20 SECONDS LEFT TO FOUL ANYONE?!?! :cmad:
And how does Darko blow a point-blank tip-in. If he made that, the game would have been tied and Dwight wouldn't have even been at the line. :cmad:

[Fran]

I'm glad we gave him to you :o:up:

[Ben Urich]

And you drafted him over Carmelo because....?

[Fran]

Touche :csad:

We also drafted him over Dwayne Wade, etc. :down

[Ben Urich]

Milicic is the new Bowie. :csad:

[Mister J]

I actually though Darko was going to be a player. A big man was a good outside shot and passing skills. Though he was a good rebounder at the international level, I thought'd he have to adjust to the physicality of the NBA, but I didn't see anything that would make him a bust.

Going to Detroit was a bad break for him, because LB doesn't play rookies. Him languishing away at the end of the bench and essentially being a characticure didn't help anything. He's been modest in Orlando, but even with improvement, I don't see him, reaching the level to justify where he was taken.

[Fran]

Yeah, Larry hated rookies, well, at least playing them at the start.

Flip tried to help Darko, but they ended up trading him.

[Mister J]

Milicic is the new Bowie. :csad:
Seems so. Bowie was actually productive and a viable big man. The problem was he we went ahead of that Jordan guy and the disparity was just too great. He did have a fair amount of injuries to deal with, while Darko just seems to suck.

[DarthRekal]

Here's what I don't understand about the Magic game last night:
Okay, they're down 2. Dwight Howard is on the line with a chance to tie. He misses both free throws. Kobe gets the rebound. There are about 40 seconds left at this point.
SO WHY THE BLOODY HELL DID THEY WAIT UNTIL 20 SECONDS LEFT TO FOUL ANYONE?!?! :cmad:
And how does Darko blow a point-blank tip-in. If he made that, the game would have been tied and Dwight wouldn't have even been at the line. :cmad:
did you see it ben... kobe dribbled the ball for a while then passed to smush..

darko actually was hustling that game just caught a bad break...
jameer actually had a good look i thought it was going in... we just got lucky...


and yeah why in the heck do you leave melo on the board???:huh:

[The Riddler]

rockets will win the 2006-2007 nba championship.

it's a lock, folks.

[DarthRekal]

rockets will win the 2006-2007 nba championship.

it's a lock, folks.
doubt it.. but i like your passion:up:

[Ben Urich]

Tonight, the Magic get the Suns.
Hello, losing streak. :csad:

[DarthRekal]

Tonight, the Magic get the Suns.
Hello, losing streak. :csad:
sorry ben.... you still atop the southeast ..no?

[Ben Urich]

sorry ben.... you still atop the southeast ..no?

Yeah, we have 1 game on the Wizards right now.
If we had beaten the Lakers last night, we'd have identical records. :o

[Ben Urich]

If the playoffs started today...
#8 Miami @ #1 Cleveland
#7 Pacers @ #2 Magic
#6 Bulls @ #3 Detroit
#5 Wizards @ #4 Raptors

#8 Denver @ #1 Dallas
#7 Minnesota @ #2 Phoenix
#6 Houston @ #3 San Antonio
#5 Los Angeles Lakers @ #4 Utah Jazz

[DarthRekal]

Yeah, we have 1 game on the Wizards right now.
If we had beaten the Lakers last night, we'd have identical records. :o
if we played in the east .. WE would have a better record:oldrazz: ..justplayin

but the wiz havent been as surreal as they used to be.. so maybe theyre leveling off ....just dont give it to the HEATIANS man im counting on you guys(all you eastern conference teams,except j) to keep them out of the show!:woot:

[Ghostvirus]

Well the bulls play Memphis tonight. I would like to think that they will winm but as Charles Barkley said that other night "The Bulls are an Enigma". Words have never been filled with more Truthiness.

rockets will win the 2006-2007 nba championship.



it's a lock, folks.


doubt it.. but i like your passion

Don't you mean dillusion?

[DarthRekal]

If the playoffs started today...
#8 Miami @ #1 Cleveland
#7 Pacers @ #2 Magic
#6 Bulls @ #3 Detroit
#5 Wizards @ #4 Raptors

#8 Denver @ #1 Dallas
#7 Minnesota @ #2 Phoenix
#6 Houston @ #3 San Antonio
#5 Los Angeles Lakers @ #4 Utah Jazz

i hate it!:cmad: if the heatians make the show... they get an easy road to the finals.. they can beat cleveland ..they can beat the magic..while the other good teams beat each other up and eliminate each other.... DAMN!:cmad:


mean while we can take the jazz..then we would have to face dallas..winnable but they are scary... IF big IF we get by them we get phoneix/san antonio..by that time we would be spent and done i believe

[Ben Urich]

The Heat won't make it past the first round, Shaq or not.

[Ghostvirus]

i hate it!:cmad: if the heatians make the show... they get an easy road to the finals.. they can beat cleveland ..they can beat the magic..while the other good teams beat each other up and eliminate each other.... DAMN!:cmad:


mean while we can take the jazz..then we would have to face dallas..winnable but they are scary... IF big IF we get by them we get phoneix/san antonio..by that time we would be spent and done i believe

Don't worry by the time you the playoffs come around Webber will have been well acustomed to the Triangle. In my opinion it will come down to the Suns, & Lakers in the west. Sadly the east is as open as the whore Blind_Fury slept with last night.

[Mister J]

All the buzz points to Macy signing with Detroit on Tuesday.

[DarthRekal]

i think he goes detroit too.. i really dont care one way or the other it'd be nice to have him..but he might get in the way too..

[Ben Urich]

He has no real incentive to sign with anyone else...
I mean, he could sign with the Lakers, but the west is (obviously) much more talented than the east...
If he goes to the Pistons, he's guaranteed a trip to AT LEAST the conference finals. Guaranteed.

Also, he'd have to convince Luke Walton to give up #4...

[Mister J]

Yeah, even when he mentioned Miami, I still didn't really care. He'll be a decent pickup, but it's not going to put a team over the top or give them some unbeatable edge. When has Webber ever made a real impact or shown up in the clutch? Between his history of disappearing in the crunch, being a complainer and his whole 'I want to go to a contender but I want to start' speak, I kinda just shrug my shoulders. Last time I saw Macy have help push a team towards title contention, Michigan was playing Kentucky in the 93 Final Four ...and we know how that eventually turned out. :woot:

[Ben Urich]

http://www.mppa.org/mppa/1993/jpegs/spt-acthm3.jpeg

:woot:

[Mister J]

The male cheerleader's face is priceless.

[Ben Urich]

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0112/nba_g_webber_gas_412.jpg

Chris Webber drives a Neon. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0112/nba_g_webber_gas_412.jpg

Chris Webber drives a Neon. :dry:

hey with the money he makes he needs to save on gas:dry:

[Ben Urich]

hey with the money he makes he needs to save on gas:dry:

Maybe he's borrowing Latrell Sprewell's car. :dry:
I mean, after all, Latrell has to feed his family. :o

[L.A.]

If the playoffs started today...
#5 Wizards @ #4 Raptors
Just to clarify the wiz would have homecourt because of there better record even though there the lower seeds. Seriously they need to change the rulez again. No team in the Atlantic have no business in the playoffs!!! They shouldnt be rewareded because there division sux!

[DarthRekal]

Maybe he's borrowing Latrell Sprewell's car. :dry:
I mean, after all, Latrell has to feed his family. :o
maybe they should CARPOOL?:huh:

[Ben Urich]

maybe they should CARPOOL?:huh:

lol.
Spree comes out of his house all iced up, gold chains and ****, sits by the curb. C-Webb pulls up in his Neon. Marcus Camby gets out the passenger side door and Spree has to crawl into the back. Camby climbs back into the car, knees all in his face. :word:

[DarthRekal]

lol.
Spree comes out of his house all iced up, gold chains and ****, sits by the curb. C-Webb pulls up in his Neon. Marcus Camby gets out the passenger side door and Spree has to crawl into the back. Camby climbs back into the car, knees all in his face. :word:


bonzi wells is in the other passenger seat...:yay:

webber turns to camby and says..."I shoulda got an Aveo"

[Ben Urich]

bonzi wells is in the other passenger seat...:yay:

webber turns to camby and says..."I shoulda got an Aveo"

"Why didn't you get the Prius? That **** gets good MPG! :cmad:" *lights blunt*

[DarthRekal]

"Why didn't you get the Prius? That **** gets good MPG! :cmad:" *lights blunt*
hold up..TIMEOUT!....man you know how much those things cost????
i got kids to feed!...



LOL

[Ben Urich]

Halftime score:
Chicago 71
Memphis 38

:dry:

[Mister J]

Good god.

[Fran]

Holy ****.

[Ben Urich]

Ben Gordon has 21 points in 20 minutes. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

stupid grizzlies..why doesn ever play better against us:cmad: :cmad: :csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Well A Wins A Win.:dry:

http://dannymcdonald12.googlepages.com/rockin-mario.gif

[Ben Urich]

Damn, the Magic were able to pull close to the Suns... just couldn't close it out. :csad:
Where the hell was Dwight Howard? :huh:
Anyway, we hung tough with the Suns and Lakers on the road after they had both creamed us at home, so there's improvement... I guess? :huh:

[Mister J]

Heatians go to 4-1 on the West Coast swing with a big win over Utah. They were up by 22 at one point.

13 3's and 93% at the line? ...from Miami? ...really?

It was all looking good and they need to keep it up for ...Monday. :cmad: :up:

[Ben Urich]

I don't know who to root for on Monday.
The Lakers are.... the Lakers. :cmad:
And the Heat have killed the Magic more times than I can count. :cmad:

[Mister J]

Well A Wins A Win.:dry:


I just read that Wallace and Nocioni didn't even play tonight. :dry:

[Ben Urich]

It's hard to believe the Grizz were a playoff team last year, isn't it?

[Eddie Brock]

well, with the Eagles losing...my hope for the Philadelphia teams is completely sunk this year.....i don't even have the energy to say "maybe next year"

[DarthRekal]

I don't know who to root for on Monday.
The Lakers are.... the Lakers. :cmad:
And the Heat have killed the Magic more times than I can count. :cmad:
Lakers BABY!....



last tiem you we were on a good win streak and you beat us J..

Monday. it will be reversed....


You are gonna get SMASHED!:cmad:

[Ghostvirus]

WTF?:dry:

I stopped watching at the half to watch the Eagles/Orleans. I mean it was 38 71. Even Chicago couldn't blow that lead.

[DarthRekal]

Knee injury to keep O'Neal sidelined for Lakers rematch



HALLLELUJAH!:woot:

[Ben Urich]

Knee injury to keep O'Neal sidelined for Lakers rematch



HALLLELUJAH!:woot:

He wasn't going to do **** anyway. :o

[Mister J]

I was just reading up on that and it sucks. You guys' post defense is ripe for the picking. Prepare to feel the unbridled fury of Michael Doleac. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

I was just reading up on that and it sucks. You guys' post defense is ripe for the picking. Prepare to feel the unbridled fury of Michael Doleac. :dry:

thats what i mean BEN.. our post defense is as holy as the pope right now...he doesnt really have to do anything other than take up space....
noone could guard him....thats a relief cause... now we got a better shot :woot:

[Ghostvirus]

HOLY SH** 111-66 is the final score of the Bulls Grizzles!!

[DarthRekal]

HOLY SH** 111-66 is the final score of the Bulls Grizzles!!
LOL yeah grizz mailed it in

[Fran]

HOLY SH** 111-66 is the final score of the Bulls Grizzles!!

Good god. 45-point ass-whooping. Should have gone for 50 :o

[Fran]

I sure hope the Pistons get Chris Webber. Seriously.

I honestly think this could help propel the Pistons once again. Look what happened when the got Rasheed. Went on a monster streak, tied club win streak, and won the NBA Finals, upsetting a HEAVILY favored Lakers team. Some people thought he'd destroy the team.

But the key here is Joe Dumars. I believe he will straighten Chris up, and he can handle him. Flip didn't handle Ben too well, but he has another chance here with Webber.

I honestly hope the Pistons sign him. They are the frontrunner at the moment, and can offer him a lot: $$, many minutes, and an opportunity to regain some lost respect from his hometown area. There are still some bitter Michigan fans, mind you.

I believe that if the Pistons sign Chris Webber, this may give them the spark to make another run at a title.

[DarthRekal]

shaddup fran.. that is one of the worse losses in our history...:csad:


F**K we shoulda won that!:cmad:

[Ghostvirus]

I honestly hope the Pistons sign him. They are the frontrunner at the moment, and can offer him a lot: $$, many minutes, and an opportunity to regain some lost respect from his hometown area. There are still some bitter Michigan fans, mind you.

There are some in Indiana still pissed at him!!!:cmad: I went to everyone I knew, & told them that the Fab Five were going to beat North Carolina. What happens this douche can't count!:cmad: I hope he ends up in the seventh circle of hell. Or Dallas at least.:oldrazz:

[Mister J]

I sure hope the Pistons get Chris Webber. Seriously.

I honestly think this could help propel the Pistons once again. Look what happened when the got Rasheed. Went on a monster streak, tied club win streak, and won the NBA Finals, upsetting a HEAVILY favored Lakers team. Some people thought he'd destroy the team.

But the key here is Joe Dumars. I believe he will straighten Chris up, and he can handle him. Flip didn't handle Ben too well, but he has another chance here with Webber.

I honestly hope the Pistons sign him. They are the frontrunner at the moment, and can offer him a lot: $$, many minutes, and an opportunity to regain some lost respect from his hometown area. There are still some bitter Michigan fans, mind you.

I believe that if the Pistons sign Chris Webber, this may give them the spark to make another run at a title.
It's Chris Webber. :dry: It's looks very much like he'll be a Piston, but ...it's Chris Webber. :dry:

Webber's never been clutch (especially not when Sacramento was making their annual pilgrimage to get thumped by the Lakers in May). This is a guy who averages 20/10 over 14 years and he won't get into the Hall unless he buys a ticket. Great passer, nice outside touch for a big man, but he's giving you nothing in terms of defense or intangibles. If the Pistons make a run at the title, it'll be the usual suspects doing the heavy lifting. Webber may help, but he'll mostly be along for the ride.

People thought Sheed's temperament would destroy the team, but there was never a question about his on-court effectiveness and versatility. Wallace was a difference maker and that was noted. Macy's not the same type of impact player. Sheed was bringing way more to the table.

[batman44]

Mavs coming through again in a tight game against Toronto.

[LastSunrise1981]

Mavs coming through again in a tight game against Toronto.

Hell yes, a very close game and it was a true game with a lot of suspense and excitement. Very glad to see the Mavs coming through in the tough close games.

These are the games they'll be experiencing again when they get into the playoffs again and to the championships. This year they will win the 2007 NBA championship.

[DarthRekal]

mavs are looking real tough now guys.. i gotta say you guys are favored right now to go all the way...

[batman44]

Hell yes, a very close game and it was a true game with a lot of suspense and excitement. Very glad to see the Mavs coming through in the tough close games.

These are the games they'll be experiencing again when they get into the playoffs again and to the championships. This year they will win the 2007 NBA championship.


Yeah, this exactly the type of games I like to see Mavs play. It prepares them better for the playoffs:up:

[Ben Urich]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2731833

As expected, Chris Webber will sign with the Pistons on Tuesday.

[DarthRekal]

J called it...





7 more hrs till showdown at staples:cmad:


game faces ready....:cmad:

[Fran]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2731833

As expected, Chris Webber will sign with the Pistons on Tuesday.

I figured he'd do it. Yes! :)

[Mister J]

He really wants to improve his relationship with the Michigan community. They keep on babbling about it. I'm also hearing they're thinking of shipping Nazr out to clear more PT for Webber.

[Fran]

We need to get someone good in return for Nazr.

[Ghostvirus]

I figured he'd do it. Yes! :)

Good. by the time webber is done with them. They will just be another crappy team again. Then the bulls can sneak in for the kill:o

J called it...





7 more hrs till showdown at staples:cmad:


game faces ready....:cmad:

LAKERS V.S. HEAT SOMEBODYS....

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/ppauls/gifs/FootInDaAss.gif

[Ben Urich]

Someone on another board wondered how Chris Webber feels about taking a pay cut from the last time he played in Michigan. :woot:

[Mister J]

Someone on another board wondered how Chris Webber feels about taking a pay cut from the last time he played in Michigan. :woot:
That's pretty good. :D

I saw that gif above and I was like "What the hell does Ghost Rider have to do with this? :huh:" :o

[Ghostvirus]

The Heat are going to stick there foot up the Lakers a**! Work with me here J. It isn't cool if you have to explain it.:o

[Ben Urich]

The Heat are going to have to score more points than the Lakers tonight if they want to win this game. That means they have to make their shots. :madden:

[Mister J]

The Heat are going to stick there foot up the Lakers a**! Work with me here J. It isn't cool if you have to explain it.:o
I took a little bit for the image to fully load. I saw a skull and coloring that looked like flames and I'm giddy about the movie. It's not my fault. :o

I have liked the way Miami's played as of late. I don't know what the hell has gotten into Walker and Jason Williams played back-to-back games for the first time this season. Mamba and Crew are tough at home, but I feel a lot better about this than I would have 10 days ago.

Arenas hit another GW 3. This time to beat Utah. He dropped 51 and just got a bit scarier. :ninja:
The Heat are going to have to score more points than the Lakers tonight if they want to win this game. That means they have to make their shots. :madden:
BOOM! :huh:

[Fran]

No, dude, it's text

[Ben Urich]

Arenas hit another GW 3. This time to beat Utah. He dropped 51 and just got a bit scarier. :ninja:

Damn. :wow:
Mehmet Okur scored 38. :huh:

[Eddie Brock]

When the Heat play the Lakers, one team is gonna play better than the other.

[batman44]

Spurs lose to the Bulls, 99-87.

[L.A.]

Damn games were sooo early today.

[L.A.]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 11
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT
1 (1) Mavericks 31-8 As if a 31-4 record since that 0-4 start isn't gaudy enough, check this out: Dirk is shooting .525 and averaging 30.8 ppg since switching back to the leather ball.
2 (2) Suns 28-8 What's wilder? Suns going 27-3 since that 1-5 start? Or Suns establishing a 64-18 pace and still trailing Mavs by 1 ½ games for the league's best record?
3 (5) Rockets 25-13 OK, OK. If you're going to exclude the game in which Yao played just six minutes and got hurt, Rockets have only two Ls (in 11 games) without him, not three.
4 (7) Spurs 27-11 Don't waste your time. You can't convince me that Spurs' best week since November, including a total shutdown of Wiz, wasn't a direct response to their drop here to No. 7.
5 (4) Lakers 24-13 Did they get too much credit? After halting Mavs' 13-game win streak minus Odom and Kwame, how did Lakes go to Memphis and Houston and lose by 10 and 25?
6 (6) Cavaliers 23-13 Gruesome as Phoenix was, Cavs are thanking Mr. Schedule Maker. They'll wind up playing five of the seven West teams with losing records on this seven-game trip.
7 (3) Jazz 24-13 Make that 12-12 since its 12-1 start and three 50-point games surrendered: Redd, Kobe and now Ray Allen. Hence Utah finally loses its longstanding top-five status.
8 (11) Timberwolves 19-16 New year, new lease on life for KG? With Blount and Foye surging, too, Wolves are 6-1 in 2007 and would have been 7-0 if not for that one-point home L to Clips.
9 (20) Wizards 20-16 Don't really want to believe there's a connection, but the numbers make you wonder: Arenas is shooting .310 from the floor (23 for 74) since his birthday extravaganza.
10 (12) Pacers 20-17 The good news: Pacers are unbeaten in '07 except when they play Dallas. The bad news: Pacers had chances to beat mighty Mavs twice and imploded both times.
11 (9) Bulls 21-17 When does a 111-66 win feel empty? When A) you're playing Memphis and B) you've lost five of the previous six games, having blown big leads in four of them.
12 (10) Pistons 21-14 Pistons have to wait until Tuesday before we see any new blood on the roster, but this already looks official: Chauncey is basically irreplaceable. Agreed?
13 (13) Magic 22-16 Road losses to Lakers, Suns showed young Magic can play with top teams. The trouble is beating them: Orlando has one win over a winning team since its 13-4 start.
14 (20) Heat 17-19 Maybe Heat are trying their hardest to convince Riley to rush back from hip surgery . . . or maybe this 4-1 trip simply proves they feel liberated by Riles' absence.
15 (16) Raptors 17-21 Raps are a modest 4-3 since Bosh's return. But they've done the Atlantic proud this month -- no easy trick, remember -- with home near-misses against Suns and Mavs.
16 (17) Nuggets 18-17 How much is Melo missed? In this favorable stretch of schedule, Nuggets are just 4-8 with Iverson. They might pay for it at season's end, with 13 of final 18 on the road.
17 (14) Warriors 18-20 Warriors haven't slipped more than two games below .500 all season. But that might be coming soon judging by their last three games . . . losses by 23, 15 and 20.
18 (21) Clippers 17-20 The lackluster play has lasted so long that you have to wonder: Do Clips have to make a trade so everyone on the team will stop waiting for one?
19 (22) Nets 16-20 After their 5-2 rebound, Nets play 11 of their next 15 on the road. Yet you suspect they won't mind the part about getting some distance from the NYC tabloid circus.
20 (15) Bucks 16-20 With Redd, Villanueva, Simmons and now Mo Williams all sidelined by injury, you could call them Hornets East. Which isn't what Bucks were going for, obviously.
21 (26) Bobcats 12-23 Now that we finally know whose team this is -- Matt Carroll's, apparently -- Carroll can't miss and Bobs have won 5 of 7, beating Lakers/Pacers/Pistons along the way.
22 (28) Hornets 14-22 First it was a blizzard of season-wrecking injuries, then an actual blizzard. The poor denizens of OKC haven't exactly been rewarded for their fervent Hornets support.
23 (19) Knicks 16-22 It was a short stay in the teens, true, but Knicks left us no choice by responding to our praise by giving up 126 at home in a heavy loss to banged-up Bobcats.
24 (23) Trail Blazers 15-23 Maybe Blazers illustrate Sacramento's struggles better than anyone. Portland's only two wins in 2007? Home and home against Kings. Otherwise? Blazers are 0-6.
25 (24) SuperSonics 14-25 As if the race for All-Star spots wasn't deep enough, Ray Allen rings up 54 to A) overshadow a reborn Collison and B) put one more name in the West hopper.
26 (18) Kings 14-20 Yikes. Remember when Arco Arena scared people? Now it's Kings themselves who look skittish: 1-4 at home in 2007 and 10-11 overall with four straight Arco defeats.
27 (27) 76ers 10-27 Sixers have played a league-low 13 games at home. Of course, given what the roster looks like these days, you don't hear many Philly folks pining for them.
28 (29) Hawks 11-23 When someone reminds you that Phoenix gets Atlanta's No. 1 pick unless Hawks finish in the lottery's top three, this 3-14 slide becomes three times as troubling.
29 (30) Grizzlies 9-29 Life is naturally better with Gasol, but not exactly worlds better. Grizz went 5-17 without him and are just 4-12 with the Spaniard back from his foot injury.
30 (25) Celtics 12-24 We're running out of things to say about woebegone Celts, probably because they're running out of players and starting four guys who didn't play college ball.

[Ben Urich]

The Bulls wore black at home. :dry:
Okay, I know the Lakers wear white (instead of gold) for holiday and Sunday home games, but seriously, what the hell? :huh:

http://www.nba.com/media/HinrichSASrecap300.jpg

[Mister J]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 11
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT

14 (20) Heat 17-19 Maybe Heat are trying their hardest to convince Riley to rush back from hip surgery . . . or maybe this 4-1 trip simply proves they feel liberated by Riles' absence.

...or maybe this 4-1 trip has a little bit to do with Dwyane Wade coming back from injury at the start of the winning streak. ****ing Mark Stein. :whatever:

[Ghostvirus]

The Bulls beat the Spurs. WTF!!! I don't get these guys. One day they play like champs. The next they lose to crap teams. Again WTF!!!

[Mister J]

The Bulls beat the Spurs. WTF!!! I don't get these guys. One day they play like champs. The next they lose to crap teams. Again WTF!!!
Careful, they play Milwaukee Wednesday. :ninja:

And no Duhon or Afro Man today. Hinrich locked Tony Parker up.

[DarthRekal]

carnage really hates us eh?

its cool .. 14 ships is an armada.. you can have the 90's we got three decades:woot:


J ..it's ON!


2 and half more hrs..


who in the heck decides to nationally televise the suns/grizzlies

and NOT

the wiz/jazz

or even
the
bulls/spurs????


what the heck????:cmad:

[DarthRekal]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 11
5 (4) Lakers 24-13 Did they get too much credit? After halting Mavs' 13-game win streak minus Odom and Kwame, how did Lakes go to Memphis and Houston and lose by 10 and 25? .
umm yeah.. i still think even 5 is too high.. but i'll take it..


i too think marc stein i doesnt know squat J...


when we were really ballin he had us 12th

now that we are sucking he has us 4th???:huh:

[Ben Urich]

I just filled out my All-Star ballot. :o

Eastern Conference
PG - Dwyane Wade
SG - Gilbert Arenas
SF - Caron Butler
PF - Jermaine O'Neal
C - Dwight Howard

Western Conference
PG - Allen Iverson
SG - Ray Allen
SF - Kevin Garnett
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Yao Ming

:up::up::up:

[Ghostvirus]

carnage really hates us eh?

its cool .. 14 ships is an armada.. you can have the 90's we got three decades:woot:


J ..it's ON!


2 and half more hrs..


who in the heck decides to nationally televise the suns/grizzlies

and NOT

the wiz/jazz

or even
the
bulls/spurs????


what the heck????:cmad:

By proxy the Bulls have had your last three as well. Simply because if it wasn't for Jackson you wouldn't have won:o

I don't hate the Lakers they are in my top five teams to watch. I just don't like Kobe, & I am wise in the art of Shaq, so desciding who I root for between the 2 are easy.

[DarthRekal]

why in gods name did you vote for YAO???


he already has a BILLION votes... make a statement man..vote american!:oldrazz:


in retaliation to your ballot i voted twice for kobe

and NONCE for dwight..


you know i would never vote for dwyane:cmad:

[Eddie Brock]

2006-07 Power Rankings: Week 11
RANK (LAST WK) TEAM REC. COMMENT

27 (27) 76ers 10-27 Sixers have played a league-low 13 games at home. Of course, given what the roster looks like these days, you don't hear many Philly folks pining for them.
the Sixers aren't #30? that's suprising....

[DarthRekal]

By proxy the Bulls have had your last three as well. Simply because if it wasn't for Jackson you wouldn't have won:o

I don't hate the Lakers they are in my top five teams to watch. I just don't like Kobe, & I am wise in the art of Shaq, so desciding who I root for between the 2 are easy.

then by this statement alone..JORDAN is NOT the greatest...


and no the last three are not yours...

by this rationale..

last years ship was also ours:huh:


our center and coach?

GAWD i hate shaq....

dont get me wrong if kobe wasnt a laker id hate him more..

but shaq dissed LA and that cannot be forgiven

[Ben Urich]

why in gods name did you vote for YAO???


he already has a BILLION votes... make a statement man..vote american!:oldrazz:


in retaliation to your ballot i voted twice for kobe

and NONCE for dwight..


you know i would never vote for dwyane:cmad:

I voted for Yao because, up until his injury, he was arguably this year's top MVP candidate. :up:
And you can't tell me there's a center in the East more deserving than Dwight Howard. :o
Then again, the same might be said for Kobe, but he's going to get in anyway so it doesn't matter as much.

[DarthRekal]

I voted for Yao because, up until his injury, he was arguably this year's top MVP candidate. :up:
And you can't tell me there's a center in the East more deserving than Dwight Howard. :o
Then again, the same might be said for Kobe, but he's going to get in anyway so it doesn't matter as much.

i voted for michael doleac in the east ..

when you vote for kobe ..i vote for dwight( i love the dude by the way)

but its principality!...:oldrazz:


and YAO is gonna get the vote anyway...

[Mister J]

i voted for michael doleac in the east ..


You guys' post defense is ripe for the picking. Prepare to feel the unbridled fury of Michael Doleac. :dry:

:ninja:

[DarthRekal]

:ninja:
i recognize the FERVER that is..

tha DOLYAK!:wow:


i wanted to vote for someone on your team cause i cant do you(my boy) like that...

so i chose the best man for the job..:oldrazz:

[DarthRekal]

CMON GRIZZLIES!:yay:

[Fran]

ANNOUNCEMENT

farmerfran, along with another user (I am accepting volunteers, etc.), will host the 2007 NBA Playoff Pool.

Think of this as a teaser trailer. :)

[DarthRekal]

ANNOUNCEMENT

farmerfran, along with another user (I am accepting volunteers, etc.), will host the 2007 NBA Playoff Pool.

Think of this as a teaser trailer. :)

lol..its pretty early!!!...

teaser?? LOL:woot: :up:

[L.A.]

Damn what to do, watch 24 tonight's episode or the Lakers vs the Heat

[Ben Urich]

Suns 76, Grizzlies 72 at halftime. :wow:

EDIT: ****, the Heat game is in LA. The Lakers will be wearing white because it's a holiday.
This hardly ever happens. I might have to go watch. :csad:

...and root for nobody! :cmad:

[DarthRekal]

Suns 76, Grizzlies 72 at halftime. :wow:

EDIT: ****, the Heat game is in LA. The Lakers will be wearing white because it's a holiday.
This hardly ever happens. I might have to go watch. :csad:

...and root for nobody! :cmad:


umm ben ..it was that way last year:dry:

Damn what to do, watch 24 tonight's episode or the Lakers vs the Heat
NOFX..i'm tivo'ing 24 and watching the game

sides the episodes for 24 are already OVER THE NET..they'v been for a week

[Ben Urich]

umm ben ..it was that way last year:dry:

This is the first year I've followed basketball since, like, 2003. I wouldn't know. :o

[DarthRekal]

This is the first year I've followed basketball since, like, 2003. I wouldn't know. :o
what the?

you acted like you've been following for a while..

why the HIATUs(sp)???:huh:

[Ben Urich]

what the?

you acted like you've been following for a while..

why the HIATUs(sp)???:huh:

I stopped after the Magic traded T-Mac. :o

[DarthRekal]

The Magic started playing well again. :o
ahaahh ..well i survived the 05 season ... and a couple of horrid seasons in the 90's... i never jump ship.. have faith young padawan:word:

[Ben Urich]

I was going through my jerseys the other day, before I left for college, and here's what I found:
http://image.bizrate.com/resize?sq=160&uid=437098649&mid=22930
http://www.rareairshoes.com/images/Vince_Carter_Purple_Champion_Jersey.jpg
http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/84/92/61a6_1.JPG
http://i12.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/82/bf/2ae4_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/mtalley4/a1147.jpg
http://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/04/ce/8e_2.JPG

Yeah, that's right; I had a #12 jersey for Culpepper. He only wore it for his rookie season, and he never threw a pass. :word:

[Fran]

I have:
Marshall Faulk
Steven Jackson
Drew Stanton
Maurice Ager
Detroit Tigers
Steve Yzerman
jerseys.

[DarthRekal]

i got

KOBE
SHAQ
MAGIC


going to get a LAMAR

nothing but lakers..

man its been a tough BBALL LIFe for you ben eh?

[Ben Urich]

Detroit Tigers? :huh: Just the logo on the front? :huh: I'm not making fun of you or anything, just curious. :o

man its been a tough BBALL LIFe for you ben eh?

Except for the Yankees, none of my favorite sports teams have won anything. :csad:
I mean, think about it: my favorite basketball players growing up were Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, and John Stockton. :csad:

[Fran]

Detroit Tigers? :huh: Just the logo on the front? :huh: I'm not making fun of you or anything, just curious. :o

Yeah... at my work (Dunham's Sports), they sold Tigers jerseys with no name on the back. Kinda sucked. But while they had the WS run, we could buy one item and get 50% off of it, for one day. I bought a Tigers jersey.

Oh, add a white and a red Ben Wallace jersey to my list. :o

[DarthRekal]

Except for the Yankees, none of my favorite sports teams have won anything. :csad:
I mean, think about it: my favorite basketball players growing up were Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, and John Stockton. :csad:
what about football...
if you like the dolphins ..you have had the GREATEST TEAM in history:huh:

[DarthRekal]

Yeah... at my work (Dunham's Sports), they sold Tigers jerseys with no name on the back. Kinda sucked. But while they had the WS run, we could buy one item and get 50% off of it, for one day. I bought a Tigers jersey.

Oh, add a white and a red Ben Wallace jersey to my list. :o
dont forget to add that sunbathing suit in your avy!:oldrazz:

[Ben Urich]

Yeah... at my work (Dunham's Sports), they sold Tigers jerseys with no name on the back. Kinda sucked. But while they had the WS run, we could buy one item and get 50% off of it, for one day. I bought a Tigers jersey.

Oh, add a white and a red Ben Wallace jersey to my list. :o

Not bad. :up: I think my dad has a Yankees one like that. And an authentic Jeter one. :word:
He also gets the tshirts with the players' name on the backs. They're okay, I guess, but the Yankees don't have last names on their actual uniforms :huh:

what about football...
if you like the dolphins ..you have had the GREATEST TEAM in history:huh:

They haven't done **** since I've been alive. :csad:
Daunte Culpepper will lead them to the promised land next year. :word:

[DarthRekal]

Not bad. :up: I think my dad has a Yankees one like that. And an authentic Jeter one. :word:
He also gets the tshirts with the players' name on the backs. They're okay, I guess, but the Yankees don't have last names on their actual uniforms



They haven't done **** since I've been alive. :csad:
Daunte Culpepper will lead them to the promised land next year. :word:
dodgers dont have names on the backs either..i think they are changing this year..im gonna get a NOMAR...

dolphins were good during the marino years... just never got over the hump... well im not too sure about daunte.. but the dolphins are setup to be pretty good next year

[Ben Urich]

The Suns are up 20 on the Grizzlies with a little over a minute to play... and all their starters are in.... :huh:
No wonder Jalen Rose can't get any playing time. :whatever:

[DarthRekal]

GAMETIME!!!!!!!!!!!! yo.. i will see you guys after..unless they lose then i will go into hiding:ninja:


LOL

[Eddie Brock]

I was going through my jerseys the other day, before I left for college, and here's what I found:
http://image.bizrate.com/resize?sq=160&uid=437098649&mid=22930
http://www.rareairshoes.com/images/Vince_Carter_Purple_Champion_Jersey.jpg
http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/84/92/61a6_1.JPG
http://i12.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/82/bf/2ae4_1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/mtalley4/a1147.jpg
http://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/04/ce/8e_2.JPG

Yeah, that's right; I had a #12 jersey for Culpepper. He only wore it for his rookie season, and he never threw a pass. :word:
i have:

McNabb authentic
McNabb cheap ripoff (doesn't even have the numbers on the shoulders)
Iverson Sixers
Webber Sixers
Iguodala
Kidd semi-authentic
Jameer Nelson St. Joes

[DarthRekal]

okay wades good and all..


but we are up ten in the first ..
then everytrip down the court for the heat there was a foul...:huh:

then all of the sudden we are up four....


cant touch wade???


and luke got thrown into the bleachers andits a no call????


how many steps does it take to get to the center of the key in the nba..?
wade lets find out..ONE ..TWO..THRRRRREEEEEE:cmad:




i'm just saying call it on both sides....i saw wade kick someone and wade went to the line....what the?
and you cant say its not true cause even the other heat members like posey mourning and walker who are driving into the lane arnet getting calls



ARGH this is pissing me offf............

other than that....

VLAD YOU SUCK you're a waste of money!!!!!!!!!:cmad:

[Ben Urich]

Just a few thoughts -
James Posey is on fire.
That ball fake Kobe gave late in the first quarter was ridiculous.
Brian Cook cannot be stopped. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

which one ben...? he had two good ones...



Yall know i Love GA..

but he is having a similar season Kobe had last year.. and all of the sudden he is the leading candidate for MVP..

Mamba was never even in the discussion last year?:huh:

[Fran]

Who's winning?

[DarthRekal]

Who's winning?

it doesnt matter im pissed:cmad:


we are by two:cmad:

[DarthRekal]

okay that mess at the end of third was our fault..slopppy basketball..:cmad:

gawd why cant we keep a lead:cmad:

[Fran]

Did the Heat lose? :)

[batman44]

Lakers win in overtime against the Heat, 124-118.

[Fran]

Thank God :up:

[DarthRekal]

Did the Heat lose? :)
yes my glorious friend..

yes they DID!:woot:


man i was numbe all game..

wade 13 trips to the line

the entire lakers squad 19?????:huh:


kobe only had three trips:huh:


oh well im just glad we won..man i used to like wade... now he's just being spoonfed to us...


J to be fair..that foul (offensive) on wade when he drove in wasnt a foul..i didnt see it..that was a bs call...



Kobe: this win was for the make-a-wish foundation kids

[Mister J]

Christ. How many 3's can you give up? Brian Cook with 25? Not much you can do when the role players step up like they did tonight.

Damn. :down

[DarthRekal]

Christ. How many 3's can you give up? Brian Cook with 25? Not much you can do when the role players step up like they did tonight.

Damn. :down
yall still almost beat us..

what did toine drink tonight???:wow:

[Mister J]

yall still almost beat us..

what did toine drink tonight???:wow:
I think Riley finally got to him by challenging his pride. That body fat nonsense was paper thin and if he and Posey wanted to challenge it through the Union, I'm fairly certain they would have won. Whatever, as long as it gets everybody on the same page.

Hate to take the L, but I gotta dap yall up. Everybody was stepping up when needed and the Lakes took it.

On the bright side, I am hoping when Miami takes the court on Thursday, back at the Triple A, we might have a different starter at center. :trans:

[DarthRekal]

I think Riley finally got to him by challenging his pride. That body fat nonsense was paper thin and if he and Posey wanted to challenge it through the Union, I'm fairly certain they would have won. Whatever, as long as it gets everybody on the same page.

Hate to take the L, but I gotta dap yall up. Everybody was stepping up when needed and the Lakes took it.

On the bright side, I am hoping when Miami takes the court on Thursday, back at the Triple A, we might have a different starter at center. :trans:
i think if shaq even just suits up a little we lose that game...

flash is really fast:wow:


thanks for the daps..
man at first when we played you on christmas i was like man yall just caught us at the right time..it was a fluke loss

but your bench is stepping up.. ou guys are starting to look scary again....
:wow:


yeah our role players stepped up... but we had to fight tooth and nail... i was complaining about the officiating in the first half but it settled down in the second.. there were spells where we just played horrible and yall were balling..ultimately the fourth qrtrs and ot were pretty evenly officiated..


good game man

had my heart racing....:ninja:




EDIT: i was right about THE DOLEAC! ...

[Ultimate_Superman]

I like the way the Wizards are playing and all but they need to start playing some D that way we can cut out all these buzzer beater shots. I mean thats great and all for the reg. season but for the playoffs they are going to need more.

Also why is the NBA Jam cheat code on for GA? :D

[Ben Urich]

Damn, that was a helluva game last night. :wow:
That steal Jason Williams made... poking it away, saving it from going out-of-bounds, then getting the pass and streaking in for the layup... wow. :wow:
What pissed me off was a guy watching the game next to me said, "Holy ****, Jason Williams, that dude used to be such a n-----." And that pissed me off, especially considering the holiday yesterday. :cmad:

[Milkman95]

Well, Chris Webber is officially a Piston and is coming home. Let's hope he can provide the spark this team needs. It will also help that Mr. Big Shot will back be within the next few games.........

[aptget]

I dont know if any of you saw the Wizards game yesterday
Arenas is just a beast
He did it again, he made the 3 at the buzzer and just turned around
didnt even watch it go in
he just threw his hands up
EDIT- http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/news/arenas_51_070115.asx

[Ben Urich]

Chris Webber will wear #84 for the Pistons. He is, to my knowledge, the only player this season to wear that number. Actually, I can't think of any recent NBA player who's worn a number in the 80s. :huh:
http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C4&Date=20070116&Category=SPORTS03&ArtNo=70116037&Ref=AR

[Fran]

He's special. :o:up:

[DarthRekal]

84??? what the heck??:huh:

[Ben Urich]

I guess he thinks he's Randy Moss..? :huh:
Although Moss wears #18 now. :o
Best number in NBA history: Scot Pollard - 62
http://www.nba.com/media/pacers/pollard_1024.jpg
(linked to picture because it's wallpaper-sized)

Honorable mentions to Gheorghe Muresan and Vladimir Radmanovic, both of whom wore #77.

What did Manute Bol wear? I can't remember. :csad:

[DarthRekal]

what about rodman's 94?

[Ben Urich]

what about rodman's 94?

*91, and yeah, that's a pretty sweet number. :up:
Oh, and George Mikan: dude rocked 99 way back when:
http://www.hr/darko/gif/mikanp.jpg
:up:

[DarthRekal]

mikan's the man..you sure it was 91????


hmmm

didnt artest just sport a 94?:huh:

[DarthRekal]

yeah your right it was 91


check this one

http://www.halloffamememorabilia.net/images/products/SSG-DR-AJLmed.jpg

[Ben Urich]

Yeah, Rodman was 91.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/5842/rodman/rodman-three.jpg
Artest wears 93 now. He wore, ****... I think he was 91 when he was in Indiana. He changes his number everywhere. 5 in Chicago; 5, 15, 23, 91 (I think?) in Indy; and now 93 in Sacramento.
Radmanovic changes, too. 77 in Seattle, 7 with the Clippers, and now 10 with the Lakers. Which one is not like the others? :huh: You get one guess. :o

EDIT: ****, that 73 Rodman jersey is sick. It might even outdo Scot Pollard's 62:
It's an odd number
Both the digits in it are odd.
Dennis. ****ing. Rodman.

[DarthRekal]

Artest wears 93 now. He wore, ****... I think he was 91 when he was in Indiana. He changes his number everywhere. 5 in Chicago; 5, 15, 23, 91 (I think?) in Indy; and now 93 in Sacramento.
Radmanovic changes, too. 77 in Seattle, 7 with the Clippers, and now 10 with the Lakers. Which one is not like the others? :huh: You get one guess. :o
artest ..changed his number cause he wanted to wear EVERY SINGLE number of the bulls dynasty roster

[Ben Urich]

artest ..changed his number cause he wanted to wear EVERY SINGLE number of the bulls dynasty roster

Probably a good thing the Bulls dumped him, then. :up:

[Ben Urich]

At halftime, it was Hornets 38, Magic 33. :dry:
The Grizzlies scored more than those two teams combined for more than that in the first half yesterday. :dry:

[Ghostvirus]

Fun Question:

Why did Rodman Choose No. 91? Was it because:

A. It was the first two numbers of the number for Emergency?

B. If you add 9+1 they equal his number on the Spurs?

[The Riddler]

the houston rockets are the champs this year.

[Ben Urich]

T-Mac is going nuts tonight. The way he's playing, he might hit 60. :wow:

[Eddie Brock]

i wish Iguodala would change back to 4 (i know he won't but..)
i bought his jersey pre-Webber so i have a #4 Iguodala jersey and it feels so wrong

[Ben Urich]

I didn't know they made Iguodala jerseys :huh:
When I went to the Magic/Sixers game last month, I saw this 8-year-old kid wearing a Rodney Carney jersey. :dry:

[Eddie Brock]

I didn't know they made Iguodala jerseys :huh:
When I went to the Magic/Sixers game last month, I saw this 8-year-old kid wearing a Rodney Carney jersey. :dry:
well who else can they make now?
they make everyone
Iguodala, Korver, Carney, i even saw Dalembert somewhere
but i bought Iguodala's when he was #4 so it looks like i'm wearing a Webber jersey

[LastSunrise1981]

the houston rockets are the champs this year.

Nope, not going to happen. It's going to come down to Phoenix/Dallas for the West.

Houston will not win another championship for a very, very long time I'm afraid. I appreciate your passion though. :up: :up:

[DarthRekal]

Nope, not going to happen. It's going to come down to Phoenix/Dallas for the West.

Houston will not win another championship for a very, very long time I'm afraid. I appreciate your passion though. :up: :up:
unless san antonio plays like we know they can.. i dont see ANYONE beating the mavs this year...

btw..did you see horry's dunk last night:wow: ..i love roB!

Lakers got a window of two to 3 yrs... 4 yrs MAX!..if they dont win one then..then kobe will never have one POST SHAQ:cmad:

[Eddie Brock]

you know what i just realized?
barring some miracle...a Philadelphia sports team won't have won a championship for 24 years...almost a quarter-century

and who was the last winner? the '82-'83 Sixers of course...courtesy of Dr. J!

[DarthRekal]

you know what i just realized?
barring some miracle...a Philadelphia sports team won't have won a championship for 24 years...almost a quarter-century

and who was the last winner? the '82-'83 Sixers of course...courtesy of Dr. J!
dont say that.. any given year in the NFL and MLB

you could have a surprising team

see:steelers,marlins,red sox,white sox,ravens



and yes those darn 83 finals!:cmad:

dont remind me of the season of FO FO FO

that was that our expense:cmad:


and i believe you should thank MOSES for that:woot:

[Ben Urich]

well who else can they make now?
they make everyone
Iguodala, Korver, Carney, i even saw Dalembert somewhere
but i bought Iguodala's when he was #4 so it looks like i'm wearing a Webber jersey

Mo Cheeks might as well put a uniform on. He'd be good for 8 and 8 each night. :dry:

Nope, not going to happen. It's going to come down to Phoenix/Dallas for the West.

Houston will not win another championship for a very, very long time I'm afraid. I appreciate your passion though. :up: :up:

I don't know about very very very. Yao was in the thick of the MVP race before he got hurt, and T-Mac is a huge scoring threat. Shane Battier is a reliable defender and an okay shooter. They've got a chance. :up:

btw..did you see horry's dunk last night:wow: ..i love roB!

Won't that asshat just retire already?! :cmad:

[Eddie Brock]

Mo Cheeks might as well put a uniform on. He'd be good for 8 and 8 each night. :dry:
heh.....oh God i hate re-building years...

[LastSunrise1981]

unless san antonio plays like we know they can.. i dont see ANYONE beating the mavs this year...

btw..did you see horry's dunk last night:wow: ..i love roB!

Lakers got a window of two to 3 yrs... 4 yrs MAX!..if they dont win one then..then kobe will never have one POST SHAQ:cmad:

Rekal, I'm going to say that I believe the Lakers could get the Spurs in a 7 game series now. It's going to come down to either Phoenix/Dallas this year or Dallas/Los Angeles.

[DarthRekal]

Rekal, I'm going to say that I believe the Lakers could get the Spurs in a 7 game series now. It's going to come down to either Phoenix/Dallas this year or Dallas/Los Angeles.
yeah right now proll but come crunch time..they are like the pats of the NBA..you can never count them out..

I still think INEXPERIENCE will plague us at the end.....DALLAS has more veteran leadership and is FAR deeper than the LAKERS..
too many weapons and when yall play Defense you're practically unstoppable

[LastSunrise1981]

Mavericks win tonight and have a game against the Lakers this Thursday.

Glad to see the Mavericks are motivated this season and are winning games that are winnable. Hopefully on Thursday they can pick one up against the Lakers.

[The Riddler]

Nope, not going to happen. It's going to come down to Phoenix/Dallas for the West.

Houston will not win another championship for a very, very long time I'm afraid. I appreciate your passion though. :up: :up:

when yao comes back, the only team that can beat teh rockets in a 7 game series is the suns and mavs.

but the rockets have a much better shot against the mavs then the uptempo style of the suns.

[Ghostvirus]

when yao comes back, the only team that can beat teh rockets in a 7 game series is the suns and mavs.

but the rockets have a much better shot against the mavs then the uptempo style of the suns.

I think you are seriously underrestimating Utah, LA.

[DarthRekal]

when yao comes back, the only team that can beat teh rockets in a 7 game series is the suns and mavs.

but the rockets have a much better shot against the mavs then the uptempo style of the suns.
Tmac goes out of the game again with back problems??:huh:


no knock on the rox but they cant stay healthy

[Ben Urich]

I think you are seriously underrestimating Utah, LA.

Utah is the Orlando of the west. Both teams got off to hot starts, but have cooled off recently and are likely to make early playoff exits because of inexperience and the lack of a go-to guy.

[Ben Urich]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891

The Pacers have traded Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Josh Powell to the Warriors for Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod.

So we lose our second- and third-leading scorers and get... Mike Dunleavy. :dry: :dry: :dry:

[Ben Urich]

http://www.nba.com/media/celtics/AWalker_170_050225.jpg

Antoine Walker wore 88 for a while with the Celtics. Damn. :csad: I was hoping Chris Webber was making some sort of history by wearing 84. :csad:

[Fran]

That trade... sucks. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891

The Pacers have traded Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Josh Powell to the Warriors for Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod.

So we lose our second- and third-leading scorers and get... Mike Dunleavy. :dry: :dry: :dry:
WOW... thats pretty stupid...al and stephen might blow up..man the warriors got SERIOUS good..:wow:


this will make JO bounce for sure

[DarthRekal]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733976


what the hell:huh: :cmad: :wow:


LOL its funny and disturbing at the same time...
man stay out the HEADLINES guys!:cmad:
just proves odom is a good man..im loving htat guy more and more

[Ben Urich]

WOW... thats pretty stupid...al and stephen might blow up..man the warriors got SERIOUS good..:wow:


this will make JO bounce for sure

Some are saying the deal was made to make Jermaine O'Neal happier. He and Al Harrington had to share the low-post scorer role. Now, it's all O'Neal. I don't really buy that, especially since the only reason the Pacers re-acquired Harrington is because O'Neal asked them to.

Stephen Jackson isn't ever going to do anything, though. He's too inconsistent. Plus, the Warriors are already set at the 2 with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson. I doubt Jackson will see enough playing time to make him happy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733976


what the hell:huh: :cmad: :wow:


LOL its funny and disturbing at the same time...
man stay out the HEADLINES guys!:cmad:
just proves odom is a good man..im loving htat guy more and more

lol, yeah I just read that. I'm trying to picture it in my head and I can't stop laughing. :woot:

[DarthRekal]

Some are saying the deal was made to make Jermaine O'Neal happier. He and Al Harrington had to share the low-post scorer role. Now, it's all O'Neal. I don't really buy that, especially since the only reason the Pacers re-acquired Harrington is because O'Neal asked them to.

Stephen Jackson isn't ever going to do anything, though. He's too inconsistent. Plus, the Warriors are already set at the 2 with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson. I doubt Jackson will see enough playing time to make him happy.



lol, yeah I just read that. I'm trying to picture it in my head and I can't stop laughing. :woot:
dont know man cant jackson play the three??? i know j rich can ..
then al at the four???

thats ALOT of scoring.. they will be the NEW MAVS(pre lil general):wow:


about the lakers article..thats pretty stupid..but it is funny..

A FRICKIN CAKE:wow: :woot:

[DarthRekal]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!:wow: guys please watch sportscenter tonight..

MAMBA just screensavered DUNCAN!:wow: :wow: :wow:

[L.A.]

I heard it but I didnt get a chance to see it yet:(

[L.A.]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2733891

The Pacers have traded Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Josh Powell to the Warriors for Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod.

So we lose our second- and third-leading scorers and get... Mike Dunleavy. :dry: :dry: :dry:
Im glad this trade happen because I didnt want Dunleavy with the clips.

[Ben Urich]

Ronny Turiaf is clutch. :dry:

[DarthRekal]

wow tough ROAD win:woot:

i hate the $terns(spurs) just slightly less than i hate the HEAT

next up dallas ..
IN DALLAS

gonna be tough again...:csad:


check out sportscenter guys..

kobe has two mean dunks tonight!
one oop from smush
one poster of duncan:wow:

[DarthRekal]

Ronny Turiaf is clutch. :dry:
believe it or not..
he is
he makes free throws late and shots
he's not afraid to shoot with the game on the line...
:word:



edit:

ben i've been wondering this from the start
did you pick your SN for BENO UDRIH?????
it's eerily similar

[Mister J]

I want Mamba to change his number back.

[DarthRekal]

I want Mamba to change his number back.
LOL so he could be the ballhog mamba again?:oldrazz:

[Ghostvirus]

The Bulls won again tonight. They face Utah on saturday.

- That was pretty funny about the cake.

I was watching PTI when they talked about the trade. They said that trade could have happend because of the way the Hoosiers don't like the way Jackson & Harrington conducted themselves. I can kind of see that. Indiana has some pretty traditional feelings towards B-Ball. Then again we did have B-Knight.:dry:

[Ben Urich]

From Bill Simmons:
In a related story, the Suns are 26-2 in their last 28 games. Here were their two losses:

Dec. 22: They lose to the Wizards in OT (144-139) in a game that Arenas tied with a 3-point play in regulation, then Nash missed a wide-open 3 that could have ended it.

Dec. 28: They lose in Dallas by two (101-99) when Nowitzki made a jumper with 0.1 seconds left.

With two reasonable breaks (Nash making the 3-pointer, Nowitzki missing the jumper), the Suns could be working on a 28-game winning streak right now. I've mentioned that to three people over the last 48 hours and all of them said the same thing: "Wait a second ... whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????"

It's true. You can look it up.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070117

A potential 28-game winning streak. Damn. :wow:

[Ghostvirus]

^but yet they have such a horrible weakness. Riiiggghhttt:whatever: I there weakness is truly that bad, but they have gone 26-2 with a potential 28 game winning streak. Then I dub the Suns The Superman of the NBA. The Suns will win the title this year.

Suns V.S. Bulls NBA Championship. Simple as that.

[Ben Urich]

It doesn't matter who comes out of the East. Any of the top 5 teams in the West - alphabetically: Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix, San Antonio - and potentially the 6th (Utah) would take any East team to school. They'd win in 5. Simple.

Right now, though, Detroit should be the favorite. Cleveland is on top right now, but there's only so much one LeBron can do. Orlando and Chicago are still a year or so off. The only team that can really challenge Detroit is Washington.

[DarthRekal]

did you see D wades shot:wow:


man!...i try to hate the guy but he is damn good....


Thanks for the confidence Ben.. but i dont hink this year is our year..

GOD i hope it IS... but i think we're at least a year away...
thing about winning streaks is
you dont have to play the same team twice...
in SERIES..the ball slows down you HAVE TO PLAY SOME SEMBLANCE OF DEFENSE..the right coach will make the RIGHT ADJUSTMENTS..we had them on the ropes last year and we weren NEARLY as deep as this year..
we basically had a 6 man rotation last year...


P.s. man i didnt know how big the win was last night...
people are wooing us everywhere also we are now currently only a HALF GAME back of the THIRD spot in the west:wow:

WOW!


furthermore i fully expect an L today the mavs are strong and we never play well in back to backs let alone on the road..
a win today would BOOST our morale to the heavans...cmon LAKERS

[Ben Urich]

After watching the first three quarters of the Heat/Pacers game - and I never thought I'd say this - Mike Dunleavy can't get here soon enough. :dry:

[L.A.]

After watching the first three quarters of the Heat/Pacers game - and I never thought I'd say this - Mike Dunleavy can't get here soon enough. :dry:
He might not be there that long:(

According to three NBA executives, the Pacers are now in talks to move Dunleavy to the Los Angeles Clippers for dynamic swingman Corey Maggette. Indiana has been after Maggette since last season when they were looking to trade Ron Artest.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/16487512.htm

[Ben Urich]

He might not be there that long:(

According to three NBA executives, the Pacers are now in talks to move Dunleavy to the Los Angeles Clippers for dynamic swingman Corey Maggette. Indiana has been after Maggette since last season when they were looking to trade Ron Artest.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/sports/16487512.htm

It's just as well. Ike Diogu is really the best part of that deal. :o

[DarthRekal]

:csad: After watching the first three quarters of the Heat/Pacers game - and I never thought I'd say this - Mike Dunleavy can't get here soon enough. :dry:
yeah the pacers look BAD right now

wow nofx..nice scoop


that would nice for Indiana i think maggete would fit perfectly there..


on the flip
i guess mike wants his son there badly eh?

but the clippers will be hella BIG

[Ben Urich]

I don't know why I said Dunleavy... bastard put the nail in the coffin back in December when the Warriors played the Magic. He banked in a three as the shot clock expired late in the fourth quarter and really took the wind out of the Magic's sails. :cmad:

[L.A.]

Its not that I dont like Dunleavy as a player, I just dont want his huge contract on the clippers! I mean whats he's getting like 17 Million a year??? Thats All star money and he is not an allstar!

[Mister J]

From the San Francisco Chronicle:
Dunleavy was a mistake from the start.

"He can't get his own shots," a very knowledgeable NBA person told me when the Warriors drafted Dunleavy with the No. 3 overall pick. "He might become an effective role player on a good team, but he's not going to carry your franchise."

And he didn't. It was the other way around.

He is a shooting forward who doesn't shoot that well.

"An NBA shooter usually misses long or short," another NBA insider told me. "Dunleavy misses left and right."

(As reader Richard Bittner noted, "He has to be the only coach's son in the history of basketball who can't shoot.")
Ouch.

[Ben Urich]

Dunleavy is making $7,038,416 this season. :o

[Ben Urich]

The Pacers are within six.
I guess I shouldn't have given up the TV. :csad:

[DarthRekal]

that was LUCK!:wow:

[Ben Urich]

Jesus, now they're within 1?!
****. :csad:

[Mister J]

Absolutely disgusting way to close out the game for Miami.

Seriously. Jeff Foster? :huh:

[L.A.]

Dunleavy is making $7,038,416 this season. :o
With 5 yrs left and its going up every year.:(

[Ben Urich]

In a sick, selfish way, I'm glad they ended up losing. I mean, if they had won, I'd be the biggest loser ever. I did 3 or 4 hours of homework this afternoon so I could relax and watch the game tonight, then watched the first 3 quarters and decided the game was over and turned it off. It's not every day your favorite team claws back from a 14-point deficit to beat the defending champions... and today wasn't that day either. :up:

[DarthRekal]

okay ben are you a pacers fan or a magic fan?

[DarthRekal]

LOL @ Jerry Stackhouse singing the national anthem..

Kudos JERRY:woot:

[Ben Urich]

okay ben are you a pacers fan or a magic fan?

Both. :huh:

[DarthRekal]

Both. :huh:
what happens when they play each other?:huh:

[Ben Urich]

what happens when they play each other?:huh:

When Reggie played, I wanted the Pacers to win those games. Hell, a few years ago I went to the then-TD Waterhouse Centre for a Magic/Pacers game with a sign that said "REGGIE FOR PRESIDENT!!!" I wore my blue custom Pacers jersey and used my Miller jersey as a cape. :up:

But now, I root for the Magic. :o

[DarthRekal]

:cmad: SLOPPY SLOPPY second qrtr:cmad:


JOHNSON.... is a beast:huh: he walked on that last shot


too many rebounds for the mavs and too many open looks...

we are playing REALLY ugly and our offense LOOKS confused..

i hate this they show up cause they win in san antonio and think its okay to just put up an "effort" and call it a day...:cmad:

[Mister J]

From the Daily Dime:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-070118
And before we get to a dissection of Webber's game, including the flat arc on his jumper, his slow feet on defense and the absence of anything remotely resembling a sprint from a pair of legs that had been resting for nearly a month, we're going to change the subject to what appears to be a growing note of discord and disharmony -- aw, heck, let's just call it hate -- between Rasheed Wallace and coach Flip Saunders.

At one point late in the third quarter during a timeout, nearly everyone on the Pistons' bench turned and stared at Sheed as he prematurely broke from the huddle and walked to the scorers' table to await the resumption of play.

Now Wallace has been doing this for years, but on this occasion, judging from the looks on the Pistons' faces, there was more to it. Webber even walked over and said something to Wallace, who replied with a shake of the head and the type of disgusted look you get from someone who doesn't want to be told to calm down or to make peace.

And when the fourth quarter came, Wallace was once again unable to control himself, drawing a technical foul with five minutes remaining for continuing to argue a foul call, ultimately earning himself a seat on the bench for the final 2:27 as Saunders went with a closing lineup of Chauncey Billups, Antonio McDyess, Carlos Delfino, Lindsey Hunter and Tayshaun Prince. That move left a gaping hole in the Pistons' interior defense, and the Jazz exploited it by scoring three of their final four buckets in the paint (where they scored 58 points) to stay ahead the rest of the way.

"You know, we've got to be smarter. We've got a lot of games that we've given points away with technical fouls down the stretch, and we've got to bite our lip. I'd say in most games where we've gotten technical fouls, we've lost. And in games we haven't gotten them, we've probably won. And in close games, you can't afford that. You just have to bite your lip and let it go, and we're not doing that," Saunders said.

It should be noted that Saunders made that comment unsolicited as he closed his postgame press conference.
This has been building for a while between Sheed and Flip. I've read where they were even considering trading him.
*cues ominous music* :ninja:

About this Webber thing; When the news of a buyout came up, I figured it was a smart move. Macy simply wasn't part of the future in Philly. Of course, my thoughts on the matter were based on the assumption that the buyout would be a wee bit less than 86 cents on the dollar. Webber's got to be grinning like an idiot about this. He gets out of a horrible situation in Philly, 37M or so out of 43M that he was owed over two years and the ability to pick which title contender he signs with. Are you telling me the Sixers couldn't have just locked his ass at the end of the bench and used some leverage to get better terms. I'm not sure if there aren't some salary cap implications that I'm not aware of, but this looks bad, even for Billy King.

Also, after reading Bill Simmons' (whose opinions and views are usually in line with mine) recent column on the Suns, I'm officially a bit more scared. They'll never be a defensive stalwart, but they at least make an occasional attempt on D. They've got a few guys who can defend (though not with nearly enough regularity to be noteworthy). However, their offense is utterly ridiculous. 51% shooting? ...as a team? ...are you ****ing kidding me? Toss in 40% from 3, 81% from the line and 111 pts/game and it's a video game brought to life. If you can get them in the halfcourt, they're in trouble, but how friggin' hard is that going to be? I'm happy to rag on Phoenix because of the defensive deficiencies, but maybe I'm being a bit too dismissive. If Nash hits an open 3 and Dirk misses a long J with 0.1 seconds left, these bastards are riding a 29-game winning streak. WTF? No, really ...WTF? I refuse to crown their asses until they show me they aren't who I think they are, but they've got my attention.

[DarthRekal]

LAKERS are getting theirs ASSSSSSSSSSES handed to them:csad:

they should just stop playin its going on thirty points:csad:

i hate the lakers always one good game one TERRIBLE game...:cmad:

oh well sig already changed

[L.A.]

damn its a good thing the tvu player not working ;)

[DarthRekal]

damn its a good thing the tvu player not working ;)
you dont get TNT?..


tune in on the radio..well maybe not this game but others

[batman44]

Goodness, the Mavs are KILLING the Lakers.

[DarthRekal]

Goodness, the Mavs are KILLING the lakers.
yeah ..dallas has WAAAAY too many weapons and are really tough at home..

props to them they are just takin us to the woodshed...
no excuses just a good old fashioned beating..
hopefully we can learn at least SOMETHING from this:csad: :csad: :cmad: :csad:

[LastSunrise1981]

Great win, but it would be nice if they played like this in Staples. Dallas always seems to beat the Lakers in Dallas, but have the hardest time winning at Staples.

Either way it's a great win. I wish Ernie, Kenny, and Charles would stick to talking about serious basketball instead of acting like morons. :csad: :cmad:

I truly believe Dallas is coming out of the west and will win it all this year.

[L.A.]

you dont get TNT?..


tune in on the radio..well maybe not this game but others
Oh it was on but for some reason it lost signal when the game was a blowout;) Must have been a Laker Fan:D

[LastSunrise1981]

From the Daily Dime:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dailydime-070118

This has been building for a while between Sheed and Flip. I've read where they were even considering trading him.
*cues ominous music* :ninja:

About this Webber thing; When the news of a buyout came up, I figured it was a smart move. Macy simply wasn't part of the future in Philly. Of course, my thoughts on the matter were based on the assumption that the buyout would be a wee bit less than 86 cents on the dollar. Webber's got to be grinning like an idiot about this. He gets out of a horrible situation in Philly, 37M or so out of 43M that he was owed over two years and the ability to pick which title contender he signs with. Are you telling me the Sixers couldn't have just locked his ass at the end of the bench and used some leverage to get better terms. I'm not sure if there aren't some salary cap implications that I'm not aware of, but this looks bad, even for Billy King.

Also, after reading Bill Simmons' (whose opinions and views are usually in line with mine) recent column on the Suns, I'm officially a bit more scared. They'll never be a defensive stalwart, but they at least make an occasional attempt on D. They've got a few guys who can defend (though not with nearly enough regularity to be noteworthy). However, their offense is utterly ridiculous. 51% shooting? ...as a team? ...are you ****ing kidding me? Toss in 40% from 3, 81% from the line and 111 pts/game and it's a video game brought to life. If you can get them in the halfcourt, they're in trouble, but how friggin' hard is that going to be? I'm happy to rag on Phoenix because of the defensive deficiencies, but maybe I'm being a bit too dismissive. If Nash hits an open 3 and Dirk misses a long J with 0.1 seconds left, these bastards are riding a 29-game winning streak. WTF? No, really ...WTF? I refuse to crown their asses until they show me they aren't who I think they are, but they've got my attention.

I'm not and have never been sold on the Suns. I truly believe they'll the definition of what an overrated team is about. I've said once, and I'll say it again, Phoenix is a great team when it comes to the regular season since teams aren't putting all of their energy into stopping them.

Come the playoffs? I bet if they face the Jazz or the Lakers in the First Round they'll get bounced out in a heartbeat. Phoenix will never, ever win a championship until they get used to a half-court offensive/defensive setting.

[Mister J]

Utah's got a big PG who can body up Nash enough to slow him down and a frontcourt that's proficient on the glass (one of the bet in the league) and can limit their fast break opportunities. They've hung two losses on Phoenix already and I like their chances in a best of 7.

Seeing Phoenix mentioned as having anything other than a puncher's chance concerning a title violates all kinds of premises that I've come to regard for teams going through the playoffs. This just can't happen. I'm at the point where I'm about to stop reading articles glorifying them. The consternation is too much.

[DarthRekal]

we are NOT facing the suns this year in the first round..


currently we are the 4th seed:woot:

and could move up when kwame and lamar come back:wow:

[Ben Urich]

There was a rumor that the Magic were gonna trade Grant Hill and JJ Redick to Seattle for Ray Allen.
Make that ****ing deal! Jesus!
But no, the Magic deny the rumor. Morons. :whatever:

[DarthRekal]

yeah right..... Ray Allen for Grant and JJ.. the sonics weill get screwed

[L.A.]

yeah right..... Ray Allen for Grant and JJ.. the sonics weill get screwed
If Allen in the market, he needs to get his azz in Clipper town! We can offer him Maggette and two first round picks!

[Mister J]

Dammit, Miami. :cmad:

Piss poor shooting from the field and the line tonight. That should have been a W. :down

edit: Flash had 3 free throws with 2.1 seconds left, but missed one and it went to OT. :csad:

[L.A.]

Wow what a shot by Mike James:eek:

[Ben Urich]

yeah right..... Ray Allen for Grant and JJ.. the sonics weill get screwed

Like I give a damn about what it does for the Sonics.
I mean, they'd get Grant Hill's expiring contract and one of the greatest scorers in college history.

[Ben Urich]

Oh man, Rekal, I'm not posting this to bust on you, but....
http://espn.go.com/photo/2007/0119/nba_g_howard_268x400.jpg
The expression on Andrew Bynum's face here is just priceless. :woot:
And yes, I know you ended up winning the game. But damn, that's a funny picture. :up:

[Ghostvirus]

Utah's got a big PG who can body up Nash enough to slow him down and a frontcourt that's proficient on the glass (one of the bet in the league) and can limit their fast break opportunities. They've hung two losses on Phoenix already and I like their chances in a best of 7.

Seeing Phoenix mentioned as having anything other than a puncher's chance concerning a title violates all kinds of premises that I've come to regard for teams going through the playoffs. This just can't happen. I'm at the point where I'm about to stop reading articles glorifying them. The consternation is too much.

I really don't get the hate for Pheonix? I mean you can't go on that many big winning streaks with that big of a so called weakness. I think that they just looks like they have weak defense because they are in a conference that is great.

If this team was on the east coast. You all would be saying it would be a lock for them to be in the finals. *scratches head* I really don't get the hate

[Mister J]

I really don't get the hate for Pheonix? I mean you can't go on that many big winning streaks with that big of a so called weakness. I think that they just looks like they have weak defense because they are in a conference that is great.

If this team was on the east coast. You all would be saying it would be a lock for them to be in the finals. *scratches head* I really don't get the hate
Their defensive shortcomings are a weakness. Playoff basketball is usually played in different tone that what happens in the regular season. The game is officiated a bit differently, scoring comes down a little and you often see more halfcourt sets. Look at how the Suns struggled in the first two rounds last year before Dallas took them out. Both series (against lesser teams) went to 7 and for all intents and purposes, The Lakers (a team who they destroyed in the regular season) should have beaten them in the first round. The Suns were in big trouble any time the game was played at a more deliberate pace, which happens often in the playoffs.

The regular season doesn't guarantee anybody a thing. Phoenix finished with the top record in 05 and the 3rd best last year and both times they got dusted by teams who D'ed up and proved they could operate in the halfcourt. What conference they're in has nothing to do with it. Scoring is nice, but you need to be able to stop somebody come May/June. Practically all of the articles I've read about Phoenix this year reference at least somewhat improved play on the defensive side, which will be critical for any real success. Even with that said, I'm still not convinced their style of play can get it done when it counts. We've seen the flashy run-and-gun Suns flop out of the playoffs for the same reason. I'll need to see cause for change in the postseason. It's not hate, it's a belief that a team who regards defense as an afterthought isn't going to take the trophy.

[Ben Urich]

If the Suns lose to anyone, it'll be because they can't rebound.

[Mister J]

Their rebounding is fine. They're overall number is in the middle of the pack, but they're 2nd in the league in defensive rebounding. They don't get a lot of offensive rebounds because they shoot 50%; there aren't many rebounds to get on that side of the glass.

[L.A.]

If the Suns lose to anyone, it'll be because they can't rebound.
I think the Suns biggest weakness is actually Steve Nash Stamina. What's he playing like 36 mins a game! It will be 40 mins + come playoff time!Last year he just looked exhausted by the time he got the WCF! I dont blame since he just played back to back 7 game series with the Clips and Lakers. If he can some how keep his pace without running out of gas, than they are the fav's to win it all!

[LastSunrise1981]

The Suns are the Mavericks of 2002-2003. They feel they can outscore an opponent into submission on any given night. While it's true that it works in the regular season, come the playoffs, it's another story as no teams are really running and gunning at that point.

Teams in the playoffs are playing that half-court, slow, and grinding 48 minute offensive/defensive settings where fast breaks are extremely rare. The Lakers practically exposed the Suns in the series, however, they went away with what was making them own the Suns and decided to play the fast break game.

Anytime a team tries to run with the Suns they'll lose. But make the Suns play defense, play tough slow physical defense, and make them set up their offense rather than running and you'll own them.

That's why if the Suns face the Jazz or the Lakers First Round this year, they'll get trounced very quickly. Until they play defense and learn to play in a half-court setting they'll never get to a championship.

Defense gets to and wins championships.

[Ben Urich]

The thing with the Suns is that they dictate the pace of the game. Right now they're my favorite to win the title, with Dallas trailing by just a hair.
Gilbert Arenas is still the MVP, though. :o

[DBella]

There was a rumor that the Magic were gonna trade Grant Hill and JJ Redick to Seattle for Ray Allen.
Make that ****ing deal! Jesus!
But no, the Magic deny the rumor. Morons. :whatever:
For real? Allen can't leave the Sonics! I won't let him!!

Oh... read the last bit of your post. Phew! :up:

Btw, Sonics had one of their biggest win last night. They beat the Bucks 99-72.

[Ghostvirus]

There are 2 things that are gauranteed this year:

1. The Suns will be in the finals. (Correct me if I am wrong they did take Dallas to seven games. Again you can't have that big a weakness, & compete that well. I dare anyone to tell me that if they had Staudamire last year. They wouldn't have been in the finals.)

2. Sunrise will be B***ing about forementioned Suns making the finals.

[DarthRekal]

Suns will NOT go to the finals!!!!..


write it down, take a picture ... do whatever you want...

they will not make it.....

[Mister J]

They lost to Dallas in 6 last year and it wasn't that close. Dallas ran with them and lost the first game. Then Avery reminded them that they actually could play defense and the Mavs took 4 out of the next 5, which were all games played at a more deliberate pace than the first.

And Amare wouldn't have made any more difference than he did when he was there in 2005 and the Spurs whipped Phoenix in 5 in the WCF. They couldn't play a bit of defense.

[L.A.]

They lost to Dallas in 6 last year and it wasn't that close. Dallas ran with them and lost the first game. Then Avery reminded them that they actually could play defense and the Mavs took 4 out of the next 5, which were all games played at a more deliberate pace than the first.

And Amare wouldn't have made any more difference than he did when he was there in 2005 and the Spurs whipped Phoenix in 5 in the WCF. They couldn't play a bit of defense.
I like to add Raja Bell was injured for most of that series and that dude was playing like an All-Star last year's playoffs!

[DarthRekal]

of course the lakers would be losing to the hornets...:cmad:


never fails... crappy team..crappy play... CMON guys... GROW UP:csad:

[Ghostvirus]

Suns will NOT go to the finals!!!!..


write it down, take a picture ... do whatever you want...

they will not make it.....

I detect a hint of fear.:cwink:

I have written it down. I can't take a picture yet. But I will have one for you sometime around June. I will ask Kobe to take one. He will have alot of free time on his hands then.:o

The reason why I pick the Suns over the other teams.

1. Spurs are getting to old. No one wants to admit it, but it about time to start rebuilding there.

2. Dallas choked big time last year. Until proven other wise they are chokers.

3. Lakers aren't deep enough. Come playoff time they will rely heavily on Kobe. We all saw how that turned out in Game 7 against Pheonix.(I don't care how far down you are. You don't leave until the game is finished, or you are injured simple as that!)

As you can clearly see just by the Rankings there is Dallas, & Pheonix. Then there is everybody else. If Dallas most notably Dirk doesn't choke & the Cuban circus doesn't come back this year. It will be an interesting showdown, & Dallas could pull it.

I know that everyone disagrees with me, & that is cool. Not the first time, but you can't dismiss how much they are dominating. Plus with all the hate they are getting. You also can't dismiss the danger of a team that has something to prove. Remember Miami?

I think we can all agree that ain't nobody winning a ship in the east. Not this year anyway.:ninja:

[LastSunrise1981]

I like to add Raja Bell was injured for most of that series and that dude was playing like an All-Star last year's playoffs!

No excuses. Phoenix managed to take certain teams to the limit and their lack of defense constantly exposes them.

Now, granted they did beat Dallas in the playoffs the first time. That was due to the fact that Nash had something to prove to Mark Cuban for letting him go, which ultimately was his revenge against Dallas in the end.

However, as I have said, when Phoenix is forced to play a half-court setting where defense is the key and the offense has to be set up in an intelligent/calculating fashion they end up folding quicker than Webber did in 2002 against the Lakers.

Phoenix MAY make it to the Western Conference Finals. But if their First Round match is against the Lakers or the Jazz? They're going to receive an early exit.

[LastSunrise1981]

I detect a hint of fear.:cwink:

I have written it down. I can't take a picture yet. But I will have one for you sometime around June. I will ask Kobe to take one. He will have alot of free time on his hands then.:o

The reason why I pick the Suns over the other teams.

1. Spurs are getting to old. No one wants to admit it, but it about time to start rebuilding there.

2. Dallas choked big time last year. Until proven other wise they are chokers.

3. Lakers aren't deep enough. Come playoff time they will rely heavily on Kobe. We all saw how that turned out in Game 7 against Pheonix.(I don't care how far down you are. You don't leave until the game is finished, or you are injured simple as that!)

As you can clearly see just by the Rankings there is Dallas, & Pheonix. Then there is everybody else. If Dallas most notably Dirk doesn't choke & the Cuban circus doesn't come back this year. It will be an interesting showdown, & Dallas could pull it.

I know that everyone disagrees with me, & that is cool. Not the first time, but you can't dismiss how much they are dominating. Plus with all the hate they are getting. You also can't dismiss the danger of a team that has something to prove. Remember Miami?

I think we can all agree that ain't nobody winning a ship in the east. Not this year anyway.:ninja:

Dallas lost because of horrible officiating, phantom calls, and a love affair that Stern has with the Heat/Wade. Yes, I said it and I'll stand by those words until I'm proven wrong.

You compare Miami to Phoenix? You do realize that Miami can play defense right? Miami knows how to play a half-court setting, they know how to set their offense up for 48 minutes, and they don't have a point guard that wears himself out in key situations.

If Miami were to face Phoenix in the Finals I can guarantee you that Miami would win it.

By the way, why are you so concerned with Dallas, Miami, and Phoenix? Your team isn't going to be anywhere near a championship again for a long time.