Buffy vs Sabretooth?

[bcd90]

Who would win? I say Buffy because she is the slayer and he probably isnt too much for her to handle. Even if he does have a healing factor she could still knock him unconscious for a while. And if she had weapons she would win hands down.

[Majik1387]

Seeing as Buffy is accompanied by supernatural powers I'm going with her. And she's hotter too.

[aidol]

i think sabertooth.....buffy is pretty strong and can probably lift a couple of tons but sabertooth is way stronger and bigger....but then she is more flexible...i don't know i guess it goes to whoever is smarter and stronger..

[LEX]

Buffy

[Lobo]

I say Buffy could take him

[BATFREDDIE]

Um...sabretooth. If this were sabretooth vs. Faith it would be more of a competition.

[Harlekin]

Um...sabretooth. If this were sabretooth vs. Faith it would be more of a competition.
And why is that? Faith has no advantage over Buffy.

[LEX]

Yeah. Buffy put Faith into a coma, for Christ's sake. :confused:

[squeekness]

Sabretooth would eat Buffy for a light snack and look around for more. No contest.

[aidol]

How about Willow??? Sabertooth wouldn't be a match for her....remember that one time when she went crazy and had soo much power??? With her powers she can do anything to him. Who is Faith? What about that devil god that came to earth and needed blood from buffy's sister? Nah...she is a god, sabertooth would be peble that she'd walk over.

[ico]

Buffy has defeated much much much more powerful foes that Sabretooth. To be honest, movie Sabretooth (if thats who we're talking about) didn't even seem that strong.

I would definately go with Buffy. As proven in the show a good few times, brawn isn't always gonna win against her. The only time that ever was too much for her was the Turok-Han Vampire which was like, 10 times stronger than she was.

Remember, Buffy even went one on one with Glory, a HellGod, who was strong enough to punch a concrete block into chunks and dust, and held her own, and even overcame her a little sometimes.

[bcd90]

Just to be clear we are talking movie Sabretooth. But correct me if Im wrong, but cant Sabretooth heal?

[Majik1387]

How about Willow??? Sabertooth wouldn't be a match for her....remember that one time when she went crazy and had soo much power??? With her powers she can do anything to him. Who is Faith? What about that devil god that came to earth and needed blood from buffy's sister? Nah...she is a god, sabertooth would be peble that she'd walk over.

You mean when Willow went Dark Phoeix :)
http://gyrrrl.tripod.com/buffy/images/willow/willow_dark2.jpg

Faith
http://freespace.virgin.net/clive.walker1/images/faithcrossbow_331x495.jpg

[bcd90]

I wish there was someway I could watch this show again. They dont even play re-runs anymore.

[micky-fox]

Buy the DVD's. ;)

Buffy would thrash Sabretooth, hands down. As would Faith. And Faith has no advantage over Buffy. Nor does Buffy have advantage over Faith, they're both slayers, they have kicked eachothers asses over and over throughout the entire series (which I've watched about 6 times over :O). They just have different styles, and I think Buffy's style proves more effective, because she actually trains her strength to be able to harness it's potential more than Faith can.

Willow could thrash Sabretooth as well, dark magicks or none. She is a goddess, after all.

Buffy could kick the **** out of Wolverine too. :p

What about that devil god that came to earth and needed blood from buffy's sister? Nah...she is a god, sabertooth would be peble that she'd walk over.

Yeah, that was Glory. She was a hard-ass opponent to take down, even for Buffy. Glory would squash Sabretooth like a bug. I mean, she was at least at the same level as Buffy (strength wise). One punch sent Buffy from one end of an empty factory to the other...

[bcd90]

DVD's cost so much money and I only have 36 channels :( . And none of them play it.

Anyways, how come Buffy has super strength? Does it have to do with being a slayer? Do Slayers automatically get super strength?

[micky-fox]

DVD's cost so much money and I only have 36 channels :( . And none of them play it.

Anyways, how come Buffy has super strength? Does it have to do with being a slayer? Do Slayers automatically get super strength?

I'll answer that with a capitalized/italic/bold/underlined YES. :p

[November Rain]

i'm not sure about buffy but sarah michelle gellar's stunt double would kick the **** out of sabretooth...

[micky-fox]

i'm not sure about buffy but sarah michelle's stunt double would kick the **** out of sabretooth...

Yeah, okay... :confused:

[November Rain]

sophia crawford, top three baddest women on the planet

http://www.dragonsquay.com/SCAngel.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8109/stuntduo.jpg

[micky-fox]

sophia crawford, top three baddest women on the planet

http://www.dragonsquay.com/SCAngel.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8109/stuntduo.jpg

Wow, I love the pics. I was just confused because we're talking Buffy vs. Sabretooth who are both fictional characters, and then you referred to Buffy's stunt double being able to but not sure about Buffy being able to kick Sabretooth's ass. Fictionally speaking, everything the stunt double does is what Buffy can do. :p

[bcd90]

Besides Faith and Buffy, there was another Slayer, who got killed by the queen vampire girl (cant remember her name) Anyone remember? She hypnotized her and then cut her throat with her nails.

[November Rain]

i know but watching sarah michelle gellar fight makes me cringe, i don't want to associate anything she does in battle with anything sophia does...

:o

[LEX]

We're not talking about Sarah Michelle Gellar vs. Sabretooth. :confused:

[November Rain]

Besides Faith and Buffy, there was another Slayer, who got killed by the queen vampire girl (cant remember her name) Anyone remember? She hypnotized her and then cut her throat with her nails.kendra...

not sure about the spelling but that's how you pronounce it..

killed by prescilla, spike's ex...

[bcd90]

Thats right. I wish I could watch this show again.

Does anyone remember an episode about these freaky blue faced people called the gentlemen and they stole the peoples voices. That episode traumatized me because when I saw it I was in grade 4. Another episode that scared me was the one where this hospital monster whos eyes come out tries to kill buffy.

[November Rain]

everyone remembers the gentle men, they were iconic, probably best one off villains whedon has done (with sweet of course)

[LEX]

kendra...

not sure about the spelling but that's how you pronounce it..

killed by prescilla, spike's ex...
Drusilla

[November Rain]

ah correct...

i apologise.

[Sparta*]

Besides Faith and Buffy, there was another Slayer, who got killed by the queen vampire girl (cant remember her name) Anyone remember? She hypnotized her and then cut her throat with her nails.

That was Kendra

edit - oops, someone already answered that question lol my bad!

I guess fictional Buffy would win against fictional Sabretooth

[micky-fox]

Yes, it was a rather complicated form of events that allowed Kendra to be chose, and Faith in her stead. After Buffy was killed by the Master (the vampire king) Kendra was chosen in the brief 10 minutes or so it took Xander to bring her back. That allowed two slayers to exist in the same age. During the fight between Spike and Buffy, as Spike was trying to use Drusilla's sire (Angel) to ressurect her to her full health (demonic psychopath dangerous-ass vampire), the gang escaped, thinking Spike had not finished the ritual in time, with Angel still alive. None of them knew Spike and Drusilla had gotten out of the building alive.

During the second part of the season when Angel's soul was taken from him and he became his old evil vampiric self again sending him on a huge-ass killing spree, Buffy was battling her inner-demons over her lost lover (Angel). In the heat of the moment, she was fooled by Angel and was drawn into the Sunnydale cemetary to finish it with him once and for all. It was only then that he said "This isn't about you... it was never about you. And you fall for it every time!" and Buffy realised it was a distraction, and arrived back at the school library to find Kendra dead. Drusilla slit her throat after hypnotizing her... Faith was the next in line. So now Buffy and Faith co-exist together as slayers.

Should I continue? :p

Probably not...

[bcd90]

She obviously wasnt that good of a slayer if Drucilla killed her so easily.

[masterj]

Besides Faith and Buffy, there was another Slayer, who got killed by the queen vampire girl (cant remember her name) Anyone remember? She hypnotized her and then cut her throat with her nails.
Her name was Kendra. I liked her, reminded me of M alot lol. I always found it intruiging having multiple slayers. I liked the wya they portrayed the different styles and persoanlities. Buffy was level headed she used her emotions and control whereas Faith was all about emotion and Kendra had the emotional value of a sponge. Anyway Buffy would kick Sabes ass.

[micky-fox]

I liked the wya they portrayed the different styles and persoanlities. Buffy was level headed she used her emotions and control whereas Faith was all about emotion and Kendra had the emotional value of a sponge.

That about sums it up. Buffy knew to get the job done, but thought through the situation and got it done sensibly, the way her emotions were telling her to. In the words of Buffy: emotion = power. Her emotions are the source of her power, and that's the key to her being such a good slayer. Better than the rest. Faith was all kill-joy and got off on the high of staking vampires or killing demons. Kendra was too straight to the point. If it was a vampire, it dies. This didn't go down well with Buffy.

She obviously wasnt that good of a slayer if Drucilla killed her so easily.

Kendra was a very skilled slayer from Jamaica. She was definitely as strong as Buffy, but her mental condition was a get the job done at any cost... no mistakes kinda deal. She was in a battle with a few of Spike, Drusilla and Angel's minions when Drusilla entered all high and mighty. She waslked up to Kendra and (being a psychic) used her powers to hypnotize Kendra into a dream state, and it was in that state that she slit her throat with her pointer finger (she had sharp nails). :(

Psychic + Vampire + Schitzo = Dangerous-ass vampire *****.

[masterj]

It was no way for her to die though. I didn't mind her dying because we got Faith who is just the shiz but being killed by uncut cuticles? Not the most epic death of a slayer.

[PhoenixRising]

I have every season on box set DVD and ive watched the season on tv about 10-12 times. Buffy could kick Faiths ass. Buffy could kick Sabretooths ass. Glory could kick Buffy's ass if she didnt have the hammer of the God Slayer. And HELLO? Are you all forgetting about preacher boy Kaleb? He could take out Glory.

But overall.... WITHOUT WEAPONS.

Kaleb > Buffy > Glory > Faith > Urine > Sabretooth


Oh and Kendra was killed by Drusilla after being placed in a hypnotic trance. Prior to this she gave Buffy a stake which she fondly named. (I loved Kendra dying because that ***** tried to kill Angel..... *****.)


What Ive always wondered is.... Who became the new Slayer when Buffy commited suicide to save the world when Glory's long-tongued man-***** bled Dawn?

[Decay]

Since I like Buffy better I'd say Buffy would be the winner.

[ico]

What Ive always wondered is.... Who became the new Slayer when Buffy commited suicide to save the world when Glory's long-tongued man-***** bled Dawn?

There was no Slayer after Buffy, the line continued with Faith, not Buffy.
http://alyssaonline.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/slayerline.gif
It was because of Buffy being ressurected and re-gaining her power which caused the irregularity in the flow of the Slayer line, which the First Evil seized upon in its plan in S7.

Also, I wouldn't stick Caleb above Buffy and Glory below her. Glory was much much much more powerful that Buffy was. Buffy only had a chance against Glory because (a) Willow had drained a whole shed-load of Glory's power by restoring Tara's mind, (b) Glory came into contact with the Dagon Sphere which also drains her power and repels her and (c) Buffy had Olaf's hammer as a powerful weapon whereas Glory was going hand-to-hand. And even then with all that, Glory still put up a huge long fight. Glory is by far more powerful than Buffy was.

[masterj]

What Ive always wondered is.... Who became the new Slayer when Buffy commited suicide to save the world when Glory's long-tongued man-***** bled Dawn?
Since Faith is the next in line if Buffy died another slayer should not be called. However, in season 7 when Dawn thought she was a potential she said the only way for her to be a slayer is if Buffy died and seen as though nobody said no you're wrong it could suggest that another slayer may be called and that when Buffy sacrificed herseff another Slayer was called forth but was just never shown on camera.

[ico]

Since Faith is the next in line if Buffy died another slayer should not be called. However, in season 7 when Dawn thought she was a potential she said the only way for her to be a slayer is if Buffy died and seen as though nobody said no you're wrong it could suggest that another slayer may be called and that when Buffy sacrificed herseff another Slayer was called forth but was just never shown on camera.

This is not the case. Whedon has since admitted that this was an error on the writing team's part, they simply forgot.
Buffy's death would not active another Slayer. Infact, Buffy's death would put the Slayer line back to normal, as her being alive is disrupting the whole flow of its force.

[masterj]

This is not the case. Whedon has since admitted that this was an error on the writing team's part, they simply forgot.
Buffy's death would not active another Slayer. Infact, Buffy's death would put the Slayer line back to normal, as her being alive is disrupting the whole flow of its force.
O ok thanks. I thought it must be a mistake either that or what I thought before. Thanks for the correction. What I don't understand though is shouldn't Buffy have disturbed the slayer 'force' when she died the first time and not when she was ressurected by Willow?

[bcd90]

So why didnt Drucilla put Buffy in a trance and kill her? I had no idea that vampire was powerful enough to kill a slayer.

Sigh...I wish I could watch this show again.

[Abaddon]

She obviously wasnt that good of a slayer if Drucilla killed her so easily.


They couldn't get the actress' stunt double for the episode which is why her death was so underwhelming.

[Shadow_Knight]

Buffy is pretty strong but I think Sabertooth would win.

[ico]

They couldn't get the actress' stunt double for the episode which is why her death was so underwhelming.

Kendra's stunt double was there :confused: Kendra's stunt double is the same person who played Nikki, the 70's NYC Slayer in the flashback in the episode 'Fool For Love'.

EDIT: I found my source, the Buffy Guide named "Dusted";

5.07 Fool For Love: Did You Know?
April Wheeden-Washington (Nikki Wood) aldo doubled for Bianca Lawson (Kendra) in 2.21 "Becoming, Part 1." She recalls, "I had to teach [Lawson] to fight, I had to do her fight, and then I had to do six different fights in one day with all these different vampires. I was losing my mind that day." Even so, she wasn't called back to play Nikki in Buffy Season Seven.

[ico]

O ok thanks. I thought it must be a mistake either that or what I thought before. Thanks for the correction. What I don't understand though is shouldn't Buffy have disturbed the slayer 'force' when she died the first time and not when she was ressurected by Willow?

Buffy's first death and ressurection in Season One was indeed the time when she disrupted the flow of the Slayer line. Her then dying and then being ressurected yet again only disrupted it moreso. The affects of her two ressurections were not realised until Season Seven though.

[ico]

So why didnt Drucilla put Buffy in a trance and kill her? I had no idea that vampire was powerful enough to kill a slayer.

Sigh...I wish I could watch this show again.

Buffy and Drusilla never came up one and one with eachother, at least when Drusilla was fully recovered.
It seems that people of a strong mind were not as easily drawn by Drusilla. For example, when she tried to put Giles in a trance, it took much longer than it did when she did it to Kendra.
Maybe Kendra was just too much of a pushover, psychologically, as she never really thought for herself, just followed orders blindly.
I doubt Drusilla could put Buffy in a trance quite so easily. Afterall, Buffy has resisted the trance-like ability of The Master himself.

[Abaddon]

Kendra's stunt double was there :confused: Kendra's stunt double is the same person who played Nikki, the 70's NYC Slayer in the flashback in the episode 'Fool For Love'.

EDIT: I found my source, the Buffy Guide named "Dusted";


My mistake then. It might've been Landau's stunt double. It was news I'd read some time ago.

[masterj]

Buffy's first death and ressurection in Season One was indeed the time when she disrupted the flow of the Slayer line. Her then dying and then being ressurected yet again only disrupted it moreso. The affects of her two ressurections were not realised until Season Seven though.
Thanks.

[micky-fox]

Glory could kick Buffy's ass if she didnt have the hammer of the God Slayer. And HELLO? Are you all forgetting about preacher boy Kaleb? He could take out Glory.

So what exactly are you saying here? How do you know Caleb could take out Glory? This was never stated, and I doubt he could take her out if he tried. She was a god. Caleb was nowhere near being such a powerful entity until he and The First merged. Only then could he have been powerful enough to beat Glory. And even when he was at this level, Buffy took him down quite easily.

[bcd90]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?

[Abaddon]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?


I think you missed the whole point of Willow's character arc.

[ico]

Dark Willow was very powerful, why didnt she use dark magic, like she did to kill warren, to help defeat Glory?

Like Abaddon said, you've missed the entire point of the arc of Willow.
Her magic-addiction was used as metaphor for drug-addiction. Whenever she used dark magic after Season 6, she couldn't control it and it took over her, for lack of a better term.

[Abaddon]

Really I think the way is was presented in season 6 really muddled the story. Magic itself isn't evil. They shouldve made it clear that the problems only came from Willow using magic to control her friends,and eventually delving into darker magics to increase her power,instead of just saying she was "using too much". Marti Noxon is an idiot.:down

[masterj]

Willow initially did use dark magic against Glory. Ater Glory attacked Tara, Willow confronted her and attack her with various spells e.g flingin knives, paralysis. However, Willow's magic wasn't really effective and though it did hurt Glory, Willow would have ultmately have lost the fight if Buffy hadn't come to her rescue. At this time in the series Willow was growing in power btu was nowhere near enough power to harness the kind of magics she used as Dark Willow. Also the Hammer Buffy used in her fight against Glory belonged to Olaf the Troll.

[Abaddon]

Yeah,the writers made a mistake referring to it as the "Hammer of a God". Olaf had no god-like abilities.

[micky-fox]

It wasn't his to begin with... it originally belonged to a god.

And as for Willow, she only went haywire after the Glory deal. Her relationship with Tara was slowly spiralling out of control due to her magic addiction. She tried to in turn use magicks to heal this problem... Tara found out... she left Willow and Willow went into a depression state. It wasn't until she turned Amy back into a human (formerly a rat, since season 2. Willow never knew how to do it) during this state that she began to become seriously addicted... I mean drug-type deal. Upon Amy's return, Amy wanted to go out and have a blast (she's a witch also) with her powers. Willow got dragged along. It started out with simple things... transfiguration in public areas... conjuring, etc. Until Amy told Willow about a powerful Warlock dwelling in Sunnydale who fuels witches with power, which acts like a drug high and gives you a complete amount of magicks and energy. Willow soon got addicted to it. It was during this phase that Willow took Dawn out to 'go to a movie' and stopped off at Wrack's dwelling (the warlock) and got a fuelling of magicks and lost control... which resulted in Willow and Dawn having a car accident and being assaulted by a demon. Buffy knew something had to be done, so did Willow. Willow went cold turkey...

After Willow and Tara got back together... and everything was going great with them, Warren (little psycho nerd... Buffy's 'arch-nemesis...is) came rocking up to Buffy's place, and shot Buffy in the chest, then ran off still firing random shots behind him. One of them shot through the window upstairs and killed Tara. Willow invoked all the power she could at that moment and summoned the god Osiris to request he bring her back (Willow had to do a complete ritual in season 5 to do this... this shows how much more powerful she has become). Osiris denied her request and Willow got mad... she screamed at him and channeled a form of magickal energy and banished Osiris (he even screamed "Ahh!"). She asked Xander who had done all of this to Buffy (in the ambulance) and especially Tara. Not like she wasn't powerful enough at the time... she went to the Magic Box and blew the door open (the lights smashed as she walked past them) and absorbed the knowledge and power from every single black arts book the shop held, which turned her hair black and sent her on a murdering spree (to kill Warren and his two comrads).

That's my input. :p

[Abaddon]

It wasn't his to begin with... it originally belonged to a god.

When was that mentioned?They made it clear that he drew his strength from the hammer itself.

And as for Willow, she only went haywire after the Glory deal. Her relationship with Tara was slowly spiralling out of control due to her magic addiction. She tried to in turn use magicks to heal this problem... Tara found out... she left Willow and Willow went into a depression state. It wasn't until she turned Amy back into a human (formerly a rat, since season 2. Willow never knew how to do it) during this state that she began to become seriously addicted... I mean drug-type deal. Upon Amy's return, Amy wanted to go out and have a blast (she's a witch also) with her powers. Willow got dragged along. It started out with simple things... transfiguration in public areas... conjuring, etc. Until Amy told Willow about a powerful Warlock dwelling in Sunnydale who fuels witches with power, which acts like a drug high and gives you a complete amount of magicks and energy. Willow soon got addicted to it. It was during this phase that Willow took Dawn out to 'go to a movie' and stopped off at Wrack's dwelling (the warlock) and got a fuelling of magicks and lost control... which resulted in Willow and Dawn having a car accident and being assaulted by a demon. Buffy knew something had to be done, so did Willow. Willow went cold turkey...

After Willow and Tara got back together... and everything was going great with them, Warren (little psycho nerd... Buffy's 'arch-nemesis...is) came rocking up to Buffy's place, and shot Buffy in the chest, then ran off still firing random shots behind him. One of them shot through the window upstairs and killed Tara. Willow invoked all the power she could at that moment and summoned the god Osiris to request he bring her back (Willow had to do a complete ritual in season 5 to do this... this shows how much more powerful she has become). Osiris denied her request and Willow got mad... she screamed at him and channeled a form of magickal energy and banished Osiris (he even screamed "Ahh!"). She asked Xander who had done all of this to Buffy (in the ambulance) and especially Tara. Not like she wasn't powerful enough at the time... she went to the Magic Box and blew the door open (the lights smashed as she walked past them) and absorbed the knowledge and power from every single black arts book the shop held, which turned her hair black and sent her on a murdering spree (to kill Warren and his two comrads).

That's my input. :p


Do you do wikipedia entries?I already knew all that..:confused:

Also,Amy became a rat in season 3.

[masterj]

And she breifly turned human in season 4.

[micky-fox]

When was that mentioned?They made it clear that he drew his strength from the hammer itself.

Yes, he drew strength from the hammer, because he was strong enough to wield it. It was a heavy hammer, and with it, he could cause a hell of a lot of damage. I know it once belonged to a god because it's common sense. Olaf isn't a god... he's a troll, formerly human. And it was commonly referred to as the weapon of a god.

Do you do wikipedia entries?I already knew all that..:confused:

Nah, no Wikipedia entries... just felt like writing it out to inform those who didn't know. ;)

Also,Amy became a rat in season 3.

Ah, yes. Quite right. My mistake. :)

[micky-fox]

And she breifly turned human in season 4.

One of my favourite scenes in the series. 'Something Blue' was a fantastic episode. :)

Willow: "First she's a perfectly normal girl-"
[Amy changes into human form again.]
Willow: "Then... she's a rat."
[Amy's a rat again.]

I also love...

Buffy: "So, Amy... how have you been?"
Amy: "Rat... you?"
Buffy: "Dead."
Amy: "Oh."

:p

[bcd90]

Has anyone seen that episode with the hospital monster? I saw it when I was in grade 4 and I nearly had a heart attack. I cant remember the plot of that episode but apparently only sick kids can see this monster and his eyes do something weird.

[ico]

Has anyone seen that episode with the hospital monster? I saw it when I was in grade 4 and I nearly had a heart attack. I cant remember the plot of that episode but apparently only sick kids can see this monster and his eyes do something weird.

Yeah that's a Season Two episode named "Killed By Death". One of the coolest monsters ever in the show, methinks.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/placed/052705kindestod_04.jpg

[Abaddon]

Wasn't too impressed with that ep. and the Freddy rip-off. The last scene with the picture almost made up for it though.:up:

[masterj]

I would vote that one of the scarier episode in the series. Hush, Killed by Death and the Wish. I hate the scene in the Wish where the Chinese girl is put on the conveyor belt.

[Abaddon]

It was pretty funny.

The whole episode was filled with some great "Holy S**t!" moments.

[micky-fox]

'Hush' has got to get my praise for scariest episode. 'Killed by Death' comes in second for me. They both freaked me out... not horror-ish, but freaky nonetheless. :p

[ico]

To be fair, none of the episodes of Buffy ever scared me or freaked me out at all. But then, I had watched so many horror movies by the time Buffy started that I was pretty much desensitized.

Nevertheless, The Gentlemen are badass. My brother is terrified of them :p Doesn't help that I have three 12" figurines of them in my room

[LEX]

Hush was an AMAZING episode. It was robbed of its Emmy. :o

It's definitely my favourite Buffy episode with The Body, OMWF, Chosen and Becoming Part 2 behind in the Top 5. Honorable mention: Grave:up:

[aidol]

no way would caleb take out glory....Glory is a freaken god! A GOD!! Enough said!

[ico]

I have mostly found that the episodes that were raved about were never my favourites; The Body, OMWF, Becoming. It's always the episodes the people really tend to overlook that I am really drawn to and re-watch a lot.

[bcd90]

I like the dark willow episodes. And I like episodes with glory in it. In general I like all Buffy episodes.

Anyways, now to my question. Why did Willow want to destroy the world?

I think Dark (movie) Pheonix should have been made like Dark Willow. She should have had the same evil sarcasm.

[Majik1387]

I like the dark willow episodes. And I like episodes with glory in it. In general I like all Buffy episodes.

Anyways, now to my question. Why did Willow want to destroy the world?

I think Dark (movie) Pheonix should have been made like Dark Willow. She should have had the same evil sarcasm.

Someone trying to kill Buffy accidentally killed Tara, Willow's girlfriend. Willow went kind of crazy.

[micky-fox]

Someone trying to kill Buffy accidentally killed Tara, Willow's girlfriend. Willow went kind of crazy.

That sums it all up. The magicks took hold of Willow.

Hush was an AMAZING episode. It was robbed of its Emmy. :o

It's definitely my favourite Buffy episode with The Body, OMWF, Chosen and Becoming Part 2 behind in the Top 5. Honorable mention: Grave:up:

'Hush' was definitely a fantastic episode. 'The Gift' also falls into my list. An amazing episode. It summed up season 5 perfectly. You have very similar favourites to mine, Lex.

1. Chosen.
2. The Gift.
3. The Body (Sarah's acting was incredible).
4. Becoming Part 2 (Once again, go Sarah!).
5. Once More With Feeling.

All of those I could watch over and over again... :up:

Hell, I could watch them all over and over... :p

[LEX]

'Hush' was definitely a fantastic episode. 'The Gift' also falls into my list. An amazing episode. It summed up season 5 perfectly. You have very similar favourites to mine, Lex.

1. Chosen.
2. The Gift.
3. The Body (Sarah's acting was incredible).
4. Becoming Part 2 (Once again, go Sarah!).
5. Once More With Feeling.

All of those I could watch over and over again... :up:

Hell, I could watch them all over and over... :p
Yup.

All this Buffy talk is tempting me to go on a Buffy-a-thon again. Last time I went on one, I spent over 100 bucks just to rent all the seasons.

Or I'll just rent the ones with my favourite episodes in them.

[Abaddon]

I like the dark willow episodes. And I like episodes with glory in it. In general I like all Buffy episodes.

Anyways, now to my question. Why did Willow want to destroy the world?



As has been said Willow went nuts when Tara was killed. She sought out the dark magics and used them to avenge her death. She killed Warren,but by then she was so high on grief she wanted to make everyone even remotely associated with him pay(Warren's partners in crime- Johnathan and Andrew,who really had nothing to do with it). Giles showed up to stop her with some magic of his own that he was granted by some powerful witches,and Willow basically sucked it all out of him. She'd absorbed so much power that she could feel,not only her own pain,but everyone else's. She wanted to make it stop so tried rasing some sort of mystical effigy so that she could incinerate the earth and "take away" everyones pain. The story itself is fine,but I thought the execution was pretty shoddy.

[masterj]

My favorite episodes have to be Anya, OMWF, Primeval, Restless and Living Conditions. I also love the whole Glory arch. Least favourite has to be Chosen. It was touching the way Anya decided to stay and fight as a true hero. Her death sucked though, what kinda closure was that?

[Abaddon]

None whatsoever. Worst character death ever.:down

[micky-fox]

Anya was one of my favourite characters and the ending would have beenso so much better if she was still alive. I didn't get why they would want to kill her off like that... and in such a brutal and unneccesary way.

[Abaddon]

I hated her death,and what bothered me even more was how she was completely disregarded afterward. Xander has one brief moment with Andrew then goes and makes some jokes about there being no shopping malls and what they should do next. Poorly done.:down

[micky-fox]

Yes, indeed. It's like no-one except Xander even acknowledged that Anya wasn't there...

Dawn: Yeah Buffy, what do we do now?
[Buffy smiles slightly.]
Buffy: Wait... where the hell is Anya?

[masterj]

Anya was the most original and fun character and she came across as a true hero in the end. I found her death unjustified and it added nothing to the plot. What peed me off more though was everyones lack of care. This woman has been firends with them for nearly 4 years and they just forget about her. I also hated the death of Amanda one of the potentials. I know they were trying to show the cruelty and savageness of the Turak vamps but why not kill Kenedy.

[masterj]

Just found something wierd. Dania Ramirez who played Callisto was also potential slayer Carridad in Buffy. She is first seen in 'Dirty Girls' and survives the final battle apparantly.

[Marvel Man]

Buffy would kick Sabretooth's butt!...

I MISS BUFFY, and i Miss Faith Too! Faith was my favorite Character and was the hottest!

[ico]

masterj, yup Callisto was in Buffy. She was also in the 'fantasy' that Xander had with the Potentials were they wanna have sex with him and then they're all having a slow motion pillow fight *rolls eyes* hee

[Marvel Man]

Yes, indeed. It's like no-one except Xander even acknowledged that Anya wasn't there...

Dawn: Yeah Buffy, what do we do now?
[Buffy smiles slightly.]
Buffy: Wait... where the hell is Anya?

OMG I could soo picture Sara saying that and it makes me crack up. Yeah I am like a Buffy God, lol i have been a fan since i was in like 2nd grade when the first season came out. My favorite season is three cause it has faith, my least favorite is season 4 i thought the season as a whole was stupid, and the season finale was just stupid. I say they should of dumped the season finale and had the showdown with Adam be the season finale. All i remember from that one is the cheese guy.

Yu know what? they should make a Buffy Scene it game.

[Sloth7d]

Uh....wasn't this thread supposed to be about Buffy vs Sabretooth?
And in any case I see Sabretooth putting her into a coma.

[Marvel Man]

Uh....wasn't this thread supposed to be about Buffy vs Sabretooth?
And in any case I see Sabretooth putting her into a coma.

That would be a big fat NO. I see Sabretooth having at most the strength of Olaf and she took him down easily.

[masterj]

I see Buffy sleeping with him lol. She has a thing for fangs and claws.

[Sloth7d]

That would be a big fat NO. I see Sabretooth having at most the strength of Olaf and she took him down easily.
But it's not just Sabretooths strenth you have to take into account. You must factor in his visciousness, his adamatium skeleton, his healing factor, his animal like senses, his co-op assassin training and skills, also that he is so aggressive in nature that he would kill someone for accidentally bumping into him(much less someone whos trying to fight him. The only way Buffy could beat him is if she came super prepared and used the help of her friends, which would= an unfair fight.

[Marvel Man]

But it's not just Sabretooths strenth you have to take into account. You must factor in his visciousness, his adamatium skeleton, his healing factor, his animal like senses, his co-op assassin training and skills, also that he is so aggressive in nature that he would kill someone for accidentally bumping into him(much less someone whos trying to fight him. The only way Buffy could beat him is if she came super prepared and used the help of her friends, which would= an unfair fight.

In a fight though she could knock him out, plus her reflexes are very well and they have about the same strength.

[Sloth7d]

In a fight though she could knock him out, plus her reflexes are very well and they have about the same strength.
I seriously doubt that. Especially since many characters in Marvel way stronger than Buffy have trouble knocking him out. Just going with the facts man, but Buffy still is one of my top favorite shows to this day.

[Majik1387]

I seriously doubt that. Especially since many characters in Marvel way stronger than Buffy have trouble knocking him out. Just going with the facts man, but Buffy still is one of my top favorite shows to this day.

I'll say again:
Seeing as Buffy is accompanied by supernatural powers she would win. And she's hotter too. :)

[Sloth7d]

I'll say again:
Seeing as Buffy is accompanied by supernatural powers she would win. And she's hotter too. :)
But if Buffy fights Sabretooth one on one she would lose.

[Marvel Man]

I'll say again:
Seeing as Buffy is accompanied by supernatural powers she would win. And she's hotter too. :)

Exactly^^! But Faith is way hotter than Buffy! Especially when they break her out of jail in Angel she looked great in those episodes

[Sloth7d]

Exactly^^! But Faith is way hotter than Buffy! Especially when they break her out of jail in Angel she looked great in those episodes
Either way, one on one Buffy would get murdered by Sabretooth.
Sure she may win a beauty padgent over the crazed killer, lots of people would. But I just don't see how in a one on one fight Buffy would win. Sabretooth would mutilate her.

[Majik1387]

But if Buffy fights Sabretooth one on one she would lose.

Seeing how many demons and monsters she's defeated on her own, all stronger than Sabretooth plus their evil powers, I'm gonna have to say no. Buffy woud win.

And yes Faith is way hotter than Buffy which is why she's my favorite slayer.

[Sloth7d]

And most of those demons always had a major weakness with their powers. But Sabretooth has none. And a spike to the chest would only make him laugh.

[Marvel Man]

And yes Faith is way hotter than Buffy which is why she's my favorite slayer.

Mine too lol i love Eliza Dushku!

Buffy will win hands down, She's defeated a God (with help i admit), a Troll (about the same strength as Sabertooth), and loads of other demons.

[Majik1387]

And most of those demons always had a major weakness with their powers. But Sabretooth has none. And a spike to the chest would only make him laugh.

Though a spike is her signature weapon, she has more than that. And again, even if Sabrettoth has no weaknesses, she is still accompanied by magic which would help her.

[Sloth7d]

Mine too lol i love Eliza Dushku!

Buffy will win hands down, She's defeated a God (with help i admit), a Troll (about the same strength as Sabertooth), and loads of other demons.
These events still do not explain how she could beat Sabretooth: A guy who faught and killed stronger people than her. A guy with a healing factor that makes her healing factor look like nothing. A man with a skeletal structure made of unbreakable metal. A man who doesn't hesitate to kill and won't make an exeption for her. A man with the skills of a leathal assassin and other military related combat skills. A man with animal senses and nature to match.
In the end, Buffy could not win one on one.

[Sloth7d]

Though a spike is her signature weapon, she has more than that. And again, even if Sabrettoth has no weaknesses, she is still accompanied by magic which would help her.
Like I said- one on one. Buffy would lose. And I know Buffy has more than a stake, I saw the entire series from beggining to end. But I don't see how most of those weapons would help.But any way with help yeah she would win.

[masterj]

Decapitation is an option Buffy likes to use and I'm pretty sure he can't grow a head back.

[Sloth7d]

How would she decapitate his head?

[masterj]

With an axe and PMT.

[Majik1387]

Pmt?

[masterj]

Premenstral Tension

[Majik1387]

oh.

[Sloth7d]

With an axe and PMT.
Adamatium skeleton>some pathetic axe
It might cut his meat but it will never fully cut through his skeletal structure and thats assuming that she hits him.
Sabretooths reflexes>Buffy swinging an axe
I see Sabretooth knocking it out of her hand or knocking her away causing it to fall out of her hand.

[masterj]

Well if this ever happened seen as Buffy is more popular she'd win much like Hulk vs Superman. Superman is more popular so the writers make him win. Same would hold true for Buffy.

[Marvel Man]

Adamatium skeleton>some pathetic axe
It might cut his meat but it will never fully cut through his skeletal structure and thats assuming that she hits him.
Sabretooths reflexes>Buffy swinging an axe
I see Sabretooth knocking it out of her hand or knocking her away causing it to fall out of her hand.

Whatever this is an opinionated thread and you believe what you beileve and were jsut saying Buffy dont have to kill him but she can knock him out, like Wolverine did and Buffy is more likely stronger than him.

[Majik1387]

Well if this ever happened seen as Buffy is more popular she'd win much like Hulk vs Superman. Superman is more popular so the writers make him win. Same would hold true for Buffy.

I agree popularity would play a point but I don't think that would be the deciding factor. And Superman beat Hulk because that's what would happen if the two faced off.

[Sloth7d]

Whatever this is an opinionated thread and you believe what you beileve and were jsut saying Buffy dont have to kill him but she can knock him out, like Wolverine did and Buffy is more likely stronger than him.
Sabretooth has faught and killed people ALOT stronger than Buffy. He has been thrashed in the face several times by people stronger than Buffy and never rendered unconscious. Infact I never have seen a fight where Sabretooth is knocked out by brute strenth alone. And when was the last time you saw Wolverine knock Sabretooth out? (with exeption of that bogus movie) It's been a long time since Wolverine won a fight with Sabretooth.

[Abaddon]

Buffy would win,but Sabretooth would horribly mutilate/kill some of her friends in the process.:o

[micky-fox]

Buffy would win,but Sabretooth would horribly mutilate/kill some of her friends in the process.:o

Not another Angel deal? :p

Haha. Buffy would thrash Sabretooth. She's taken on the right hand man of The First and defeated him, whilst he was infused with the power of The First itself. We're talking about a girl infused with supernatural powers giving her incredible amounts of speed, agility and of course, strength. A girl who can send multiple uber-vampires (with skeletal structures so tough that staking them would be like driving wood through solid steel) ten feet into the air with a single swing of a scythe, not to mention, decapitate and impale them whenever she feels like it. A girl who has risen from the dead twice and survived being impaled through the stomach on multiple occasions... Sabretooth has a healing factor ten times better than hers, yes... but if she can survive being impaled with a simple 'slayer heals faster' gift, what does that say about her? She doesn't need an adamantium skeleton to survive being impaled. She is an expert gymnast with incredible speed to boot... she would slaughter him.

[masterj]

Also Buffy never works alone. Sure she may fight alone but her firends are always there for her. You may say it is just Buffy alone we are discussing but Buffy never is alone. Her friends are always there which make her so much stronger than any other slayer.If not in the fray of battle than working behind the scenes, making a spell to help her or fending off other evils. It's what makes Buffy so strong. The total of the parts is stronger than parts individually and this is what makes the gang so strong. Buffy has the physical strength, Willow and Tara have the mystical abilities, Giles has the intelligence and Xander, Dawn and Anya are the heart. Together they could take out anyone and Sabretooth is nothing on some of the foes they have fought.

[Abaddon]

All she'd need is Willow to win. One-on-one,Sabretooth would do horrible things to her.


Not another Angel deal? :p

Haha. Buffy would thrash Sabretooth. She's taken on the right hand man of The First and defeated him, whilst he was infused with the power of The First itself. We're talking about a girl infused with supernatural powers giving her incredible amounts of speed, agility and of course, strength. A girl who can send multiple uber-vampires (with skeletal structures so tough that skating them would be like driving wood through solid steel) ten feet into the air with a single swing of a scythe, not to mention, decapitate and impale them whenever she feels like it. A girl who has risen from the dead twice and survived being impaled through the stomach on multiple occasions... Sabretooth has a healing factor ten times better than hers, yes... but if she can survive being impaled with a simple 'slayer heals faster' gift, what does that say about her? She doesn't need an adamantium skeleton to survive being impaled. She is an expert gymnast with incredible speed to boot... she would slaughter him.

I wouldn't reference any of the events from "Chosen". Everything in the episode was absurd,and unless Buffy attempts to win by using continuity errors and plot holes,then it aint happening.:rolleyes::down






that ":rolleyes:" isn't directed at you btw.:o

[bcd90]

I just saw a Buffy episode, I think it was called selfless. And its Anya being a vengeance demon. I have a lobg list of questions.

1) Where did that spider come from?
2) What does a vengeance demon do?
3) Is there a way to kill a vengeance demon?
4) Why did Willow tell that innocent girl to shut up?

[Abaddon]

I just saw a Buffy episode, I think it was called selfless. And its Anya being a vengeance demon. I have a lobg list of questions.

1) Where did that spider come from?
Anya summoned it. The girl wish they knew what it felt like to have their hearts ripped out,so anya summoned the spider demon to do just that.

2) What does a vengeance demon do?
They're like a genies. Basically a vengeance is granted the ability to harness powerful magics,through the use an amulet, in order to grant wishes. Anya specialized in avenging wronged women.

3) Is there a way to kill a vengeance demon?
They're harder to kill than the average demon. It's easiest to just destroy their power center(the amulet) which would undo their wishes and make them human again.

4) Why did Willow tell that innocent girl to shut up?
It was to show that Willow still had her dark side,and that it could occassionally resurface whenever she used magic.

[bcd90]

So Anya dies in the last episode? How? I thought vengeance demons dont die.

[Abaddon]

I thought you saw the Selfless episode.:confused:

[bcd90]

I thought you saw the Selfless episode.:confused:'

I did, she didnt die in that one. I mean in the last episode called "chosen" I heard she dies.

[Abaddon]

At the end of Selfless,Anya is no longer a vengeance demon

[bcd90]

At the end of Selfless,Anya is no longer a vengeance demon

Oh, now I now what you are talking about. I got confused there. But how does Anya died in the episode "chosen".

[Abaddon]

watch the episode and see.:o;)


its very disappointing though.

[bcd90]

watch the episode and see.:o;)


its very disappointing though.

I dont have the seasons :mad:

[Abaddon]

then do something about it.:mad:

[Majik1387]

I dont have the seasons :mad:

youtube it.

[Abaddon]

they only have a handful of full episodes.

[Marvel Man]

Oh, now I now what you are talking about. I got confused there. But how does Anya died in the episode "chosen".

she gets sliced in 2 pratically by a Bringer

[bcd90]

I downloaded chosen. But it was kind of dark and I couldnt make out what was happening. But I caught bits and peices of it. Ok so...

1) Now all girls who have the potential to be slayers are slayers?

2) So that makes Buffy not the chosen one any more?

3) Is the gateway between hell and earth (hellmouth) officially closed?

4) Did all of sunnydale die?

5) What happened to Willow

6) Why did no one care about poor Anya?

[Abaddon]

I downloaded chosen. But it was kind of dark and I couldnt make out what was happening. But I caught bits and peices of it. Ok so...

1) Now all girls who have the potential to be slayers are slayers?

Yes.

2) So that makes Buffy not the chosen one any more?

Nope. Now there are various chosen ones.

3) Is the gateway between hell and earth (hellmouth) officially closed?
Only the one in Sunnydale.

4) Did all of sunnydale die?

Everyone pretty much left town before it happened.

5) What happened to Willow

What do you mean?
6) Why did no one care about poor Anya?
Bad writing,and not enough time in the show.

[bcd90]

What I mean by what happened to Willow. Her hair turned blonde and she said she was a goddess. Maybe it was nothing, not sure.

And another question. Does everyone in the world know that things like deomons and vampires exist? If there are more gateways to hell, then once people see these things do they ever forget? For example, when those blue faced people called the gentlement came to Sunnydale, did they forever remember that night where freaky looking people came to kill certain people? And I thought Buffy was the only Slayer. But how can that be if there are various hellmouths?

[Abaddon]

What I mean by what happened to Willow. Her hair turned blonde and she said she was a goddess. Maybe it was nothing, not sure.

It was the power surging through her that made her into "white willow",not that it any makes sense. It was just to show that Willow was powerful,and wouldn't "go evil" whenever she used magic.

And another question. Does everyone in the world know that things like deomons and vampires exist? If there are more gateways to hell, then once people see these things do they ever forget? For example, when those blue faced people called the gentlement came to Sunnydale, did they forever remember that night where freaky looking people came to kill certain people? And I thought Buffy was the only Slayer. But how can that be if there are various hellmouths?

I think they just chose to ignore those things.

[ico]

And another question. Does everyone in the world know that things like deomons and vampires exist? If there are more gateways to hell, then once people see these things do they ever forget? For example, when those blue faced people called the gentlement came to Sunnydale, did they forever remember that night where freaky looking people came to kill certain people? And I thought Buffy was the only Slayer. But how can that be if there are various hellmouths?

It's pretty much established in the very first episode when Giles said that people have a tendency to rationalise what they don't understand. So most of the civilians who may have spotted The Gentlemen or a demon of some sort have probably brushed it off as being a person in a mask or just a deformed looking crazy. Afterall, it's easier to believe than demons and monsters.

[bcd90]

How come it took them all so long to realize that Glory shared a body with Ben? And all they had to do was kill Ben to kill Glory.

[Abaddon]

There was a spell that kept anyone from remembering Ben shared a body with Glory. And even then Ben was innocent,they'd have no right to kill him.

[bcd90]

Oh, I see


Random question: How do I get a picture underneath my name? I see you have pyro. How do I get a moving one as well?

[Abaddon]

You need at least 300 posts(I think).

edit: Here you go http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137235

[bcd90]

Question:

In the third season why is the master back. Didn't she defeat the master at the end of season one.

Why is Anyanka bad in season 3?

I haven't seen alot so alot of detail would be appreciated. Or else I'll get confused.

Edit: and when Giles destroys the alternate reality Anyanka created why is Vampire Willow still in the season.

[Abaddon]

Question:

In the third season why is the master back. Didn't she defeat the master at the end of season one.

Why is Anyanka bad in season 3?

I haven't seen alot so alot of detail would be appreciated. Or else I'll get confused.

Edit: and when Giles destroys the alternate reality Anyanka created why is Vampire Willow still in the season.

It's best if you watch the seasons in order.

The Master came back in season 3 because Anyanka granted Cordelia's wish that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale. As a result the Master succeeded in the Harvest and was freed,since Buffy wasn't around to stop him. Anyanka is bad in the sense that she's a powerful demon and her abilities cause alot of damage,but she feels completely justified in what she does,which is avenging scorned women. Vampire Willow showed up because she was plucked out of her reality before Giles presumably erased that reality.

[ReptileOrion]

Buffy would own Sabretooth. Nuff said

[Sloth7d]

^No. No! and Hell no!
Sabretooth>Buffy easily.

[bcd90]

Who do you guys think Buffy's top 3 opponents are?

I say

1) Glory
2) Caleb
3) Adam