Iron Man vs. Dr. Doom

[Ironfan72]

Who would win?

[Duncan MacLeod]

Iron Man. Simply by virtue of being the hero.

Mind you Doom's going to make him pay cash for it.

In the old Iron Manual when Tony rated other guys in armor he said something to the effect that "If Doom put his mind to it he could come up with an armor that would rip mine apart."

[3dman27]

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[Iron Man™]

Shellhead

[The Fonz]

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[Firehawk]

It's a draw.. Mags would come through and destroy them both!! but seriously Iron-man would cheat and call in some of his buddies..

[IronMan_2005]

It's a draw.. Mags would come through and destroy them both!! but seriously Iron-man would cheat and call in some of his buddies..

Mags, you mean Magneto?? No way does he beat Iron Man, infact in an Avengers West Coast issue, Iron Man and Magneto did fight, Iron Man reversed the polarity of his armor and beat the crap outta Magneto.

now that I think about it a fight between Iron Man and Wolverine would also be a onesided beating, if Iron Man made himself into a magnet.

Iron Man vs Dr. Doom, I would now say Iron Man because he constantly keeps upgrading his armor and now has the extremes virus injected inhimself which could control and shut down the Doom armor.

[Ironman24]

Mags, you mean Magneto?? No way does he beat Iron Man, infact in an Avengers West Coast issue, Iron Man and Magneto did fight, Iron Man reversed the polarity of his armor and beat the crap outta Magneto.

now that I think about it a fight between Iron Man and Wolverine would also be a onesided beating, if Iron Man made himself into a magnet.

Iron Man vs Dr. Doom, I would now say Iron Man because he constantly keeps upgrading his armor and now has the extremes virus injected inhimself which could control and shut down the Doom armor.

I remember that, I thought it was so funny to see Iron Man basically turned the tables on Magneto, it was a fun issue.
Iron Man vs Wolverine, that would be entertaining, though, all Tony has to do is tap into a Defense Satellite and blow Wolverine up from orbit.

[Lane Myer]

Iron Man.

[Darthphere]

Dr. Doom, because hes ****ing Dr. Doom. He beat the Beyonder for god's sake. Iron man really has no chance if its written well.

[choskins]

They went at it in Iron Man 150 if I remember correctly. It was great!

[Darthphere]

Wow, that poll is lopsided, but doesnt surprise me.

[kedrell]

Probably because their just going armor vs. armor. Clearly IM's armor is vastly superior to DD's. The thing is that DD usually doesn't even use his armor for attack unless he has to. He's more of a schemer.

[Ironman24]

Probably because their just going armor vs. armor. Clearly IM's armor is vastly superior to DD's. The thing is that DD usually doesn't even use his armor for attack unless he has to. He's more of a schemer.

Agreed, he usually sends minions to do his dirty work or a Doombot. A staight up fight Iron Man should win because Stark is always upgrading his Armor, Doom doesn't, his armor I believe stay's pretty much the same.

[Mistress Gluon]

Doom's armor isn't really all THAT inferior to Iron Man's armor. But Doom would probably win in an all for nothing fight since he can also utilize magic as well. (Considered to be the next in line for mantle of Sorcerer Supreme after Strange himself.) And magic, unfortunately, is an area Tony struggles quite a bit on.

[Arkady Rossovich]

Im going to say Dr.Doom.

[Duncan MacLeod]

Agreed, he usually sends minions to do his dirty work or a Doombot. A staight up fight Iron Man should win because Stark is always upgrading his Armor, Doom doesn't, his armor I believe stay's pretty much the same.

Actually Doom upgrades his armor as much, if not more, than Stark does. He just doesn't change it's exterior appearance.

Why? Because Doom likes it as it is. And if some so-called hero is foolhardy enough to believe that Doom doesn't then the fool deserves to have his head handed to him.

[Ironman24]

Actually Doom upgrades his armor as much, if not more, than Stark does. He just doesn't change it's exterior appearance.

Why? Because Doom likes it as it is. And if some so-called hero is foolhardy enough to believe that Doom doesn't then the fool deserves to have his head handed to him.

My mistake, thanks for the correction, I'm not much of a follower of Doom.

[La The Darkman]

I'm rather disgusted by how much I see people underestimating Doom these days.

[T'Jai]

Doom. Smarter with about equal available resources, and magic plus much more ruthless, especially if he planned it ...anybody read the book of Doom the life model decoys that Sheild uses are based of of tech originated by Doom...

[Mistress Gluon]

Doom. Smarter with about equal available resources, and magic plus much more ruthless, especially if he planned it ...anybody read the book of Doom the life model decoys that Sheild uses are based of of tech originated by Doom...

Actually, Stark built the LMD's.

[Worldbuilder]

Doom invites Stark over for drinks. Doom kills Stark.

[T'Jai]

Actually, Stark built the LMD's.
Book of Doom, read it...

[3dman27]

maybe stark and doom had simular robotics projects at the same time but vicious vic kept HIS under wraps

[Xothermic]

Unless it was a hero vs. villain story, 9/10 Dr. Doom takes it. Dr. Doom has always been written as superior to every superhero that isn't named Reed Richards or Dr. Strange. Dr. Doom is just more cunning than Iron Man and ultimately, Dr. Doom takes it.

[T'Jai]

Unless it was a hero vs. villain story, 9/10 Dr. Doom takes it. Dr. Doom has always been written as superior to every superhero that isn't named Reed Richards or Dr. Strange. Dr. Doom is just more cunning than Iron Man and ultimately, Dr. Doom takes it.He could take reed one on one and is just not on strange's radar but i'm sure his combo of abilities makes that contest uncertain as well...

[Mistress Gluon]

Book of Doom, read it...

Own it. Look up several old comics mainly concerning SHIELD.

[Mistress Gluon]

He could take reed one on one and is just not on strange's radar but i'm sure his combo of abilities makes that contest uncertain as well...

Actually, compared to Strange, Doom is lacking severely. His magic/tech combo is awesome and all, but neither one is really outside of Strange's ability to handle. Strange has definitely faced far more powerful villans with far more varying abilities and won out.

[T'Jai]

Own it. Look up several old comics mainly concerning SHIELD.then consider it a retconn ;) thereby trumphing your involvement of the oldies :p
Actually, compared to Strange, Doom is lacking severely. His magic/tech combo is awesome and all, but neither one is really outside of Strange's ability to handle. Strange has definitely faced far more powerful villans with far more varying abilities and won out. Doom has concured the world at least twice and has acertained the powers of more than a few cosmic beings, and I'll thank you not to ever use the terms "Lacking severly" when speaking of DOOM!!! :p

[Mistress Gluon]

then consider it a retconn ;) thereby trumphing your involvement of the oldies :p
Doom has concured the world at least twice and has acertained the powers of more than a few cosmic beings, and I'll thank you not to ever use the terms "Lacking severly" when speaking of DOOM!!! :p

Ascertained, only to have them taken back by said cosmic beings. Strange's own power rivals cosmic beings.


Hence, Doom is lacking severely. :)

[Franklin Richards]

During Unthinkable, Doom cast an anti-tech spell over Latveria. All of Reeds gizmos went kablooie! Don't know why he couldn't do a similar thing in a smaller area. Then it would be Victor vs. Stark hand to hand. In that matchup, I'd go with Vic.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Mistress Gluon]

Stark got Steve Rogers training. But there's almost no chance since Doom would crush him since he spent WAY more time in hand to hand training.

[T'Jai]

Ascertained, only to have them taken back by said cosmic beings. Strange's own power rivals cosmic beings.


Hence, Doom is lacking severely. :) Ahem! no cosmic being has ever "taken back" there powers Doom found that the specific set of abilities was not optimal for his aim ...and released them :D

and of course doom would Own stark no tech hand to hand He is Doom!

[Franklin Richards]

...but who would win in Texas Hold 'Em??


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[T'Jai]

:doom::doom::doom::doom::doom::doom::doom:

[Mistress Gluon]

Ahem! no cosmic being has ever "taken back" there powers Doom found that the specific set of abilities was not optimal for his aim ...and released them :D

and of course doom would Own stark no tech hand to hand He is Doom!


The Beyonder stole em back. And Doom lost his powers back to the Surfer under his own arrogance. And he failed to steal Hyperstorm's powers.

[T'Jai]

The Beyonder stole em back. And Doom lost his powers back to the Surfer under his own arrogance. And he failed to steal Hyperstorm's powers.

BAH!!! Doom found the beyonders powers... unweildy why else do you think Doom allowed the heros to be revived long enough to "distract" Doom!

Misinformation is not arrogance it is foolish to suggest the "Silver Surfer" might be incapable of leaving the planet (especially if you weren't there when Galatus cursed him)

The alleged attempted theft of Hyperstorms powers was a red herring to distract from Doom's true aim

:doom:

[Mistress Gluon]

BAH!!! Doom found the beyonders powers... unweildy why else do you think Doom allowed the heros to be revived long enough to "distract" Doom!

Misinformation is not arrogance it is foolish to suggest the "Silver Surfer" might be incapable of leaving the planet (especially if you weren't there when Galatus cursed him)

The alleged attempted theft of Hyperstorms powers was a red herring to distract from Doom's true aim

:doom:

He was tricked into going through the barrier. Arrogance. He should've known better. But those were simper days.

lol And the Beyonder tricked Doom. Admit it!! :thing:

[T'Jai]

He was tricked into going through the barrier. Arrogance. He should've known better. But those were simper days.

lol And the Beyonder tricked Doom. Admit it!! :thing:
NEVER!!! Doom is beyond falling for such parlor tricks, everything happened according to Doom's plan.

[Mistress Gluon]

NEVER!!! Doom is beyond falling for such parlor tricks, everything happened according to Doom's plan.


Actually, it was all part of Galactus' plan. :D

[T'Jai]

Actually, it was all part of Galactus' plan. :DWhich was accounted for and factored into Doom's plan!!!!

Insufferable FOOL!! you dare to risk the Wrath Of Doom!!
Doom!! DOOM!!!

(jk just in case sombody decides to mistaken my levity for actual irritation)

[Mistress Gluon]

Which was accounted for and factored into Doom's plan!!!!

Insufferable FOOL!! you dare to risk the Wrath Of Doom!!
Doom!! DOOM!!!

(jk just in case sombody decides to mistaken my levity for actual irritation)


XD I'd actually hope not. But if you were to replace Doom with Batman...












I'd probably think you were serious, and would have to kill you. :mad:

[T'Jai]

Well I'm serious about Doom's Bad-assed-ness, ( but the tone of my last few posts was obviously not) Doom is almost never defeated he's just distracted long enough that he decides his original goal is no longer worth it

Best Comic Villian Ever!!

[Mistress Gluon]

lol He's overpowered and defeated often enough by his arrogance. But you're right. Doom IS a badass. Galactus badass? No. Surfer badass? More than. Squirrel Girl badass? Not a chance.

[Worldbuilder]

Iron Man is only defeating Doom in the polls because the polls are controlled by that blasted Richards.

[CaptainStacy]

Dr. Doom, because hes ****ing Dr. Doom. He beat the Beyonder for god's sake. Iron man really has no chance if its written well.

Wasnt it established in Secret Wars that the Beyonder, in fact, ALLOWED Doom to take his power, in order to study Doom and see what he would do with it?

Regardless, if both are wearing their current suits, then i'd give it to Tony.

[CaptainStacy]

During Unthinkable, Doom cast an anti-tech spell over Latveria. All of Reeds gizmos went kablooie! Don't know why he couldn't do a similar thing in a smaller area. Then it would be Victor vs. Stark hand to hand. In that matchup, I'd go with Vic.

:doom: :doom: :doom:

Meh. Mandarin's done that before, but Iron Man still prevailed.

[Mistress Gluon]

Wasnt it established in Secret Wars that the Beyonder, in fact, ALLOWED Doom to take his power, in order to study Doom and see what he would do with it?

Regardless, if both are wearing their current suits, then i'd give it to Tony.

Correct. The Beyonder, in part of his infinite search for entertainment, allowed Doom to have it.


Put it this way, Galactus with all his power and knowledge and ability to use his power couldn't get through, and he really wanted to.


A super powered Doom with power he can't really comprehend all that well shouldn't have been able to.

[Green Goblin 1964]

I think maybe Doom but maybe iron man.....Oh i don't KNOW!!

[Ironman24]

Well, one thing to remember, while Doom may have had the anti tech spell, Stark has injected himself with the extremis virus, he technically no longer even needs the armor.
I will concede the fact, that Doom is one bad dude, but lets give Tony some credit, he's beaten anti tech spells before, Mandarin did it and Tony found away to beat that, like CaptainSpacey said.
it could be considered a draw.

[Khonshu]

Doom takes it if the fight is anticipated.

Shellhead wins if the fight is unexpected.

[Willowhugger]

Actually, they've fought solo before.

Tony got his most conclusive victory with the help of Squirrel Girl.

:-)

Doom has faced down the entire Avengers before and while normally 7 times out of 10, Doom is going to beat down Tony Stark. The fact is that Doom actually acknowledges Tony as an individual threat. The only ten people in the world that Doom even realizes EXISTS are the Fantastic Three (he doesn't acknowledge Jonny), Tony Stark, Thor, Doctor Strange, Namor, Black Panther, Kang, and whatever chick he's currently macking on (Valaria, Storm, DAZZLER...)

So that puts Tony in some august company.

[The Man of Steel]

IM Takes it

[CaptainStacy]

They just fought in the most recent issue of Mighty Avengers, and while Tony had the upper hand for a bit, Doom started using his magic, and pretty much won....

[kedrell]

Yeah, magic's Doom's ace in the hole. Armor to armor his isn't a match for Iron Man.

[Sparta*]

I like Tony but Doom would take him out

[Dynasty]

Doom.... But it's close, Tony would win with help from the Avengers.

[DoomRulz]

Doom takes this one. He'd come up with a way to circumvent Stark's armour.

[Doctor Doom]

Are you kidding?

:doom::doom::doom:

In case no one got it; Doom

[MARVEL-MAN]

The greatest Iron Man/ Doctor Doom battle (*to date*) has to be Iron Man 149-150. These issues should be examined in relations to this debate. On the other hand, both parties are consistantly improving on their individual advancements. So the point might be mute. In my personal opinion, I'd say it would Doom. :doom:

[Raiden]

I think Iron Man (with Extremis) will defeat Dr. Doom. :im:

[Franklin Richards]

Doom has already made a vaccine for Extremis, I'm sure.


:doom: :doom: :doom:

[Raiden]

Well, at least movie IM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movie Doom. ;)

[Doctor Doom]

Well if Doom only used Technology and didn't include Magic (or his power to switch with the winner anyway). Excluding if Stark let him live with enough strength (more likely he will cause he's a hero and what not, not saying he won't, but he's likely too), Doom would use his time platform to go back in time and change the outcome to his favor, because he knows how it gonna happen. Excluding ALL THAT, Iron Man is slightly better tech. wise, because its all Stark has, so its bound to be a little more thought out.

But good thing Doom thinks about these things, and has magic, and a time platform and the ability to switch minds.

Doom baby. :doom:

[Doctor Doom]

Also the fact that good guys win like 85% of the time anyway, should not make a difference if the story actually played out like it was supposed to. But (most of the time!) good guys win a lot because everyone likes the guy who's name is on the cover....No good cheating good guys...:p

[MARVEL-MAN]

Well, at least movie IM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movie Doom. ;)
Without a doubt! "Movie" Iron Man would kick "movie" Doom's tin ass. That film version of Doctor Doom was an abomination and insult to comicdom's "greatest super-villian"! Such a shame.

[DoomRulz]

Without a doubt! "Movie" Iron Man would kick "movie" Doom's tin ass. That film version of Doctor Doom was an abomination and insult to comicdom's "greatest super-villian"! Such a shame.

Wasn't that Doom based on Ultimate Doom?

[Doctor Doom]

Wasn't that Doom based on Ultimate Doom?

The similarities are in the skin turned to metal, and he was in the accident that created the F.4 other than that, they are quite different.

The ultimate version didn't have electrical powers, had goat legs, was a lot more intelligent (it seemed), didn't have a whole company to his name, shot out metal spikes and could spew out toxic gas. As well he had a little rut in the East that squatters lived in but they had to swear loyalty to Doom (his name was Victor Van Damme). He then also learned magic from Atlantis teachings after taking over Latveria and changing his name too Dr. Doom(this I'm not too familiar with).

[Upset Spideyfan]

With magic: Doom.

Without magic: Iron Man.

Simple as that.

[CaptainStacy]

There's a new mini series out called Iron Man: Legacy of Doom, and while the two dont actually fight, Doom totally outsmarts Tony with embarassing ease.

Definitely worth checking out.

[Iron_Stark]

Legacy of Doom is awesome. Yeah Doom totally screwed Tony over big time.

Next issue, Dr. Doom with Excalibure (the sword) VS Iron Man.

[iamlegend]

Either way.

I only say this because, while Doom has done some great stuff, he has a tendency to get completely owned now and again.

[DoomRulz]

That's coz he's dumb enuff to let his ego get ahead of him, like all baddies.

[Obi-Ron]

:doom:

[Abstract]

Magics gotta be the decider, tech to tech, I'd place my bets on Iron Man but with magic it has to be Doom. Tony just doesn't have anything that can counter something that screws with the nature of the universe itself.