Anime/Manga (Easten) heroes versus Western Heroes.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

This is simply a match up where you vote for the one you think would win in a combat, I try to make it as fair as possible, but sometimes even I can mess-up so...
Anyhow, let's start with the first match-up.

Gaara, of the desert.
http://www.naruto-kun.com/images/characters/Gaara%20of%20the%20Desert.jpg

VS

Magneto.
http://www.mckellen.com/images/misc/magneto.jpg

[X-Ray]

I take that back. Apparently some sand has some form of Magnetite in it. So it comes down to where the fight is being held. If Magneto is lucky enough to be anywhere near such sand or that Gaara uses such a thing. He could win it.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Depends where the battle is held at. For instance, if it's at the beach. Gaara takes it.
Gaara wields that big bagpack with sand while Magneto allways have some metal stuff with him.
It's on a meadow. - It's suposed to be fair.

[rigel7soldiers]

Magneto, definately. With control over magnetism, one of the more powerful forces in the universe, he is more or less the Unified Field theory. theoretically, he could control all forms of energy. Everything has a magnetic field, anyway. It's how he flies, for evample.

That's way better than some freaky dirt racoon dog with insomnia.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

1-0 to the favor of Magneto.

[Warhammer]

I am glad you made this thread.
You can do so much with this thread that the Anime/Manga tournament can't.
Kudos to you. :up:

BTW, I vote Magneto, most definitely.

I can see arguements in the future if a DBZ character is involved.

[X-Ray]

Oh forgot to vote ... Magneto.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

3-0 to Magneto next battle comming right up.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

The Akatsuki organisation.

http://www.narutouchiha.com/contenido/Akatsuki/aka.gif

VS

The New Avengers

http://www.universomarvel.com/news/New_Avengers_12col.jpg

[Warhammer]

New Avengers will win this one pretty easily.
Sentry, alone, can handle them.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

New Avengers will win this one pretty easily.
Sentry, alone, can handle them.
Some of them are preatty good, especially the leader and Itachi.
Itachi just need eye contact with one, and he's able to break down his foe mentally, which would lead to death.
And the leader have the 8-tailed beast in him (like Naruto (9-tailed) and Gaara (1-tailed)

[X-Ray]

Not all 9 members of Akatsuki have been revealed. So the remaining unknowns can either make them stronger or weaker than the New Avengers.

So I'll go with the Avengers. Wolverine's healing factor makes him one hard target to kill for Akatsuki. Any replacement & shadow replacement techniques won't fool his nose. He'll sniff you out.

The Avengers.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

2-0 to the avengers.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Not all 9 members of Akatsuki have been revealed
Noo... Of course not... Guess you havent seen Sasuke in the 3rd cursed seal either (The wing's on the 2nd seal's back will turn into arms, he will become a freaking digimon)

[Warhammer]

edit.

[Warhammer]

Some of them are preatty good, especially the leader and Itachi.
Itachi just need eye contact with one, and he's able to break down his foe mentally, which would lead to death.
And the leader have the 8-tailed beast in him (like Naruto (9-tailed) and Gaara (1-tailed)

Ahhh, Okie Dokie.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Anyhow 2-0 to the avenger's next match in about 15 hours...

[rigel7soldiers]

The New Avengers might win. Sentry and Iron Man would do all the winning, though.

[X-Ray]

Noo... Of course not... Guess you havent seen Sasuke in the 3rd cursed seal either (The wing's on the 2nd seal's back will turn into arms, he will become a freaking digimon)

Uh yah I've seen him in that form ... he beats Naruto with it :(

Not sure what that has to do with the Akatsuki :confused: but whatever ...

3-0 Avengers with rigel7soldiers' vote ... bring on the next match-up ;)

[Corinthian™]

Noo... Of course not... Guess you havent seen Sasuke in the 3rd cursed seal either (The wing's on the 2nd seal's back will turn into arms, he will become a freaking digimon)
http://mirrorimageorigin.collegepublisher.com/media/paper301/stills/3673o25f.jpg

:):up:

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Best picture ever, Avengers owned.
Now a new battle's comming up:

Kabitoshin.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/mcharleston/Kibitoshin/kaioshin.jpg

VS

Thor.
http://home.att.net/~raidcon/thor.jpg

[Warhammer]

Thor would crush Kibitoshin.
Kibitoshin hasn't shown anything special that puts him over Thor.
Thor will crush him.

Nice match-up.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Thor would crush Kibitoshin.
Kibitoshin hasn't shown anything special that puts him over Thor.
Thor will crush him.

Nice match-up.
Kabitoshin could travel where ever he wants within the universe with the instant-translockation (which was stated to make it superior to Gokou's)
However Kabitoshin was about Kanzentani Seru's level.

And Thor is about Hulk's level...

So this will indeed draw alot of DBZ-fanatic-n00b-atention

[Warhammer]

Kabitoshin could travel where ever he wants within the universe with the instant-translockation (which was stated to make it superior to Gokou's)
However Kabitoshin was about Kanzentani Seru's level.

And Thor is about Hulk's level...

So this will indeed draw alot of DBZ-fanatic-n00b-atention

Well, that, but I meant strength-wise.
And Thor is stronger than Hulk, if I remember.

...And Yep. Expect DBZ hardcore bias fans to put any DBZ character over a DC/Marvel character. You could put Videl against Juggernaut and they'd say Videl would win. :) :down

[Warhammer]

BTW, Who did you vote for Mikael?

[X-Ray]

Thor, mainly becuz I never really did give a **** about Kabitoshin. :o

[SSJ4_Mikael]

BTW, Who did you vote for Mikael?
I just vote when it end up in a draw.
Anyhow 2-0 to Thor.
This thread lacks of memb.

New match comming right up.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Vash the Stampede.
http://bishounen.info/vash/vash2.jpg

VS

The Punisher.
http://www.keystar-r-s.com/reviews/pics/comics/marvel/Punisher_blast.jpg

[Warhammer]

I just vote when it end up in a draw.
Anyhow 2-0 to Thor.
This thread lacks of memb.

New match comming right up.

This whole forum isn't that great.
If the same number of people who voted for either Superman or Goku were in this thread, then it'd be great. I felt the same way when I took over the Anime/Manga Tournaments. There was a lack of people, so I quit doing it. :(

Btw, Nice match-up.
I'd vote for Vash, though.

[Tsunulia]

My vote goes to Vash.

[rigel7soldiers]

Mine too. Because when it comes down to it, the Punisher is only human. Vash isn't.

[Sloth7d]

Love And Peace! Love and Peace! Love and Peace!
BTW: thats a vote for Vash.
Cmon man, do a fair match up astleast, or let some one else take over.

[Tsunulia]

Let Vash go chase his elusive mayfly of love, and let's have another round :up:

[Jplaya2023]

Gaara would own magneto

spiderman would beat the ataski clan by himself

kibito sama shin would own thor

punisher would own that snow flake

[Sloth7d]

Gaara would own magneto
Yeah, I totally agee. You seem like a smart guy. Then you said-

spiderman would beat the ataski clan by himself
Wow, I am dissapointed. Sentry probably could though, but spiderman?

kibito sama shin would own thor

punisher would own that snow flake
Yes and no.

[Jplaya2023]

Yeah, I totally agee. You seem like a smart guy. Then you said-


Wow, I am dissapointed. Sentry probably could though, but spiderman?


Yes and no.

Could you please explain to me how the atashi clan can beat the ultimate hero of the marvel universe and the best hero in the marvel universe.

[Sloth7d]

Could you please explain to me how the atashi clan can beat the ultimate hero of the marvel universe and the best hero in the marvel universe.
Yeah I said Sentry could do it by himself, but to say spider man could do it by himself is ludacris. He is clearly outranked here. Did you read New Avengers#20? He is clearly no match for any one who can raid his mind or cast him into illusions.

[Jplaya2023]

Yeah I said Sentry could do it by himself, but to say spider man could do it by himself is ludacris. He is clearly outranked here. Did you read New Avengers#20? He is clearly no match for any one who can raid his mind or cast him into illusions.

non canon those avengers comics are not the best way to gauge spiderman's strengths

[Sloth7d]

What do you mean non canon? It happened in Avengers, which is a canon series to each member on the team, including Spider man.
But,please, lets not debate this. Can some one start a new match up? One thats REASONABLE, unlike the ones so far?

[Jplaya2023]

What do you mean non canon? It happened in Avengers, which is a canon series to each member on the team, including Spider man.
But,please, lets not debate this. Can some one start a new match up? One thats REASONABLE, unlike the ones so far?


Next match

http://narutoownage.t35.com/images/wallpapers/itachi.jpg
Itachi Sama

vs

http://jburri2999.tripod.com/hulk.jpg
Hulk

[Sloth7d]

Nice pic.
Either way sharigan>brute strenth
I'll go with Itachi.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Hey, show the creator of the thread some respect...
Oh well it's a nice match up I guess.

But Hulk have lifted 150 billion ton's, jumped 5 miles, regenerated when he was flatted to the bones.

If Uchinha Itachi would get eye contact with him before Hulk tear him into shreds than, Uchinha would win.
He would break him down mentaly so hard that he would die.
But if hulk got a grip on Itachi, then Itachi would be two halfs...

I give it to Hulk 9/10
Sicne he often don't look his foe's in the eye's.

[Jplaya2023]

Hey, show the creator of the thread some respect...
Oh well it's a nice match up I guess.

But Hulk have lifted 150 billion ton's, jumped 5 miles, regenerated when he was flatted to the bones.

If Uchinha Itachi would get eye contact with him before Hulk tear him into shreds than, Uchinha would win.
He would break him down mentaly so hard that he would die.
But if hulk got a grip on Itachi, then Itachi would be two halfs...

I give it to Hulk 9/10
Sicne he often don't look his foe's in the eye's.

so what does hulk look at then???

hulk isnt fast enough to just grab itachi, plus itachi can summon bullfrog or the snake and just have the snake eat hulk.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

If he sonic clap once, the Manda (snake) and Itachi will both face oblivion.

[Jplaya2023]

If he sonic clap once, the Manda (snake) and Itachi will both face oblivion.

you cant be serious itachi has faced people from the village of sound with better moves than the thunderclap and came out unscaved.

So if hulk doesnt look into your eyes what does he look at.

[Gotenks]

I know my votes for the old match up's dont count but...
Gaara
New avengers
Thor
Vash

[SSJ4_Mikael]

you cant be serious itachi has faced people from the village of sound with better moves than the thunderclap and came out unscaved.

So if hulk doesnt look into your eyes what does he look at.
A powerful Thunderclap can bring down entire citys...

[Sloth7d]

Hulk does often look into his opponents eyes. Look at how Iron man nearly subdued him in The Other part 4.

[Gotenks]

Itachi Sama

[Ultra-Herald9]

Gaara would own magneto

spiderman would beat the ataski clan by himself

kibito sama shin would own thor

punisher would own that snow flake

I really think you don't know much about comics. Magneto powers are godlike compared to Gaara. Magneto can move mountains with his anti-gravity fields and absorb electro magnetic fields so he can become strong enough physically to take on colosus and this is only listing some of his powers.

second you should give the atatsuki clan more credit than that but Sentry or Iron Man could easily kill all ninja clans within the span of half a day.


Third, Thor could knock Goku flat on his ass with a single punch(not saying that Goku wouldn't win if they were to fight though) and a single hit from mjolnir would quite possibly paralyze kibitoshin. Plus Thor could just Godblast kibito and that attack is so powerful that it could slay other immortals.

Lastly, have you even seen trigun? Vash could easily beat the punisher with no weopons at all. I mean Punisher got *****slapped by Daredevil and if you give Vash a gun then he could kill Daredevil.

[Sloth7d]

1.Gaara and Magneto was a tough call, but I still say Gaara.
2.I'm sorry to say, but Sentry is on a level equivilent to Superman which means the atatsuki clan is going down. But without the sentry it's a good fight, which atatsuki might win.
3.Thor<Nappa so KabitoKai>>>>>>>thor. But I don't even want to get in the power comparrison between Dbz and Marvel/dc. It causes too much flaming.
4.Yes I agree with you totally. Vash owns Punisher hands down.

[Sloth7d]

Anyway how about
Atlas
vs
Zero suit Gundam

[Warhammer]

I vote for Hulk.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

[But without the sentry it's a good fight, which atatsuki might win.
Hulk would virtually make sentry his ***** at his best.

[Sloth7d]

[But without the sentry it's a good fight, which atatsuki might win.
Hulk would virtually make sentry his ***** at his best.
I guess you didn't see The Sentry series 1-8.
Where the Hulk is so easily crippled by the void, who is only The Sentrys evil side.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

I said Hulk at his best...

[Jplaya2023]

I said Hulk at his best...

what exactly is hulk at his best

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Silver Age of corse.

He lifted a 150 billion ton mountain.

[Jplaya2023]

Silver Age of corse.

He lifted a 150 billion ton mountain.

how does this help him fighting someone faster than him?

[Sloth7d]

Well, I can't argue. Since we have yet to see the full extent of Sentry's powers. But so far they're implying that he's on a level of Superman.
So I think Sentry would beat Hulk down.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

how does this help him fighting someone faster than him?
Well thats true... guess Sentry is slight better though, but omly slight.

So if Semtry cam take down the organisation of which includes Itachi than Hulk would be able to take him alone.

[Jplaya2023]

Well thats true... guess Sentry is slight better though, but omly slight.

So if Semtry cam take down the organisation of which includes Itachi than Hulk would be able to take him alone.

who the hell is sentry?? im talking about itachi sama

[ookami]

who the hell is sentry?? im talking about itachi sama

oh sweet God, not again. Sentry is a million X better Superman, that's all.
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/sentry.htm
more up to date
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentry_%28Robert_Reynolds%29

[Jplaya2023]

he looks exactly like superman except his hair is longer

[animexcel]

I think Gaara would pwn Magneto. Before he could raise his hand; Gaara does Desert coffin, it'd be over.

[Ultra-Herald9]

1.Gaara and Magneto was a tough call, but I still say Gaara.
2.I'm sorry to say, but Sentry is on a level equivilent to Superman which means the atatsuki clan is going down. But without the sentry it's a good fight, which atatsuki might win.
3.Thor<Nappa so KabitoKai>>>>>>>thor. But I don't even want to get in the power comparrison between Dbz and Marvel/dc. It causes too much flaming.
4.Yes I agree with you totally. Vash owns Punisher hands down.

Thor beat the crap out of a being that could move planets with his bare hands and has shrugged of a blast of supernova force(gladiator) and gladiator could annihilate most dbz beings if he is confident enough.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Silver Age of corse.

He lifted a 150 billion ton mountain.

Dude freaking Superman has lifted more than that. Sentry in normal continuity is around the level of pre-crisis Superman since it is said that he is on the same level or possibly above hyperion and gladiator both of which are based on pre-crisis Superman. But in the Sentry mini he was easily the most powerful hero in the Marvel universe since he was said to have once stalemated galactus in battle plus Sentry had the Hulk cooing like a pigeon easily.

[Ultra-Herald9]

Well, I can't argue. Since we have yet to see the full extent of Sentry's powers. But so far they're implying that he's on a level of Superman.
So I think Sentry would beat Hulk down.

His powers are actually on par with the phoenix force and the power cosmic but have been toned down a bit to focus on character development and fitting him in the new avengers.

[Ultra-Herald9]

he looks exactly like superman except his hair is longer

the only thing they freakin have in common is a cape and boots dude.

[Guyverjay]

Magneto beats Gaara...EASILY

New Avengers beat Akatsuki

Hulk beats Itachi, banner has a gazillion personalities in his brain, a mind **** from the sharingan will probably result in a more pissed off Hulk.

Kibitoshin beats Thor imo

True enough the kais didn't seem THAT impressive but that was only because they were up against BUU. Each one was supposed to be able to kill Freiza with a single blow.

Vash beats Punisher

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Ok, as wierd as this sounds, this battle is actually kinda fair:
Thanos w/ HotU
http://www.geocities.com/marvelscans/scans/Thanos_the_Mad_Titan.jpg
VS
L-sama
http://www.queenofswords.com/zotc15.jpg

[mikestylez]

thanos

[Sloth7d]

Don't know who the other one is..... can't vote.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

The other one is the God...
She can create mulitverses...

[LouFerignoDemon]

Thanos obliterated the entire multiverse effortless, and recreated it effortlessly. Thanos with the HOTU can literally do ANYTHING.


As for the fights

Magneto (most obviously)

New Avengers

Hulk. The eye trick is powerful and all, but it probably wouldn't read much off of Hulk, seeing how his mental state is ALWAYS in conflict as the Hulk.

And the Hulk is basically broad visioned when he's looking at something. Just the general object he's trying to smash. He's never really all so focused as to look into someone else's eyes really.

Thor, assuming we're talking about King Thor.

And Vash by leaps and bounds

[Jplaya2023]

Magneto beats Gaara...EASILY

New Avengers beat Akatsuki

Hulk beats Itachi, banner has a gazillion personalities in his brain, a mind **** from the sharingan will probably result in a more pissed off Hulk.

Kibitoshin beats Thor imo

True enough the kais didn't seem THAT impressive but that was only because they were up against BUU. Each one was supposed to be able to kill Freiza with a single blow.

Vash beats Punisher

how does magneto even hit gaara with his ultimate sand defense, unless gaara sand has some type of metal in it that magneto can control. Even if he gets passed that how is magneto going to stop his jitso's or summoning technique when he calls gamachi (sp) into the fight or Mondo. Finally if all else fails and his seal power takes over and he turns into the racoon what then???

As for hulk vs itachi the sharigon would tear hulk's mind apart not to mention to chlordie, and various other techniques used by itachi. Hulk would never be able to hit him

[LouFerignoDemon]

Or Magneto can go the fun route, and just hold all the blood in Gaara's body to a stand still, and kill him that way.

[Jplaya2023]

Or Magneto can go the fun route, and just hold all the blood in Gaara's body to a stand still, and kill him that way.

because of the iron in his blood right. If thats the case magneto should basically be unbeatable then.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Only to people that don't have a way of guarding themselves from magnetic attacks.

[Jplaya2023]

Only to people that don't have a way of guarding themselves from magnetic attacks.

Well i think gaara sama sand defense can guard magnetism but im not for sure.

Who is vash he must be a beast if people saying he can take punisher. The greatest gunman in both marvel and DC

[LouFerignoDemon]

Vash is the best by leaps and bounds.

[Jplaya2023]

Vash is the best by leaps and bounds.

But i seen punisher kill off the entire marvel universe like it was nothing. Spiderman included. What anime is vash from??

[LouFerignoDemon]

Trigun

[Sloth7d]

But i seen punisher kill off the entire marvel universe like it was nothing. Spiderman included. What anime is vash from??
Vash is a monster, so to say.
He can easily dodge bullets and if he wants to he can nuke an entire town in an instant.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

New battle!
Super Sonic and Sonic:
http://www.geocities.com/knuckles51490/Sonic_X__Super_Sonic_by_jayu_karisutary.jpg
and
http://www.walkofgame.com/images/ind_sonic_2.jpg
VS
Flash (Wally West) and Qicksliver (Pietro)
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/dc/common_images/gallery/flash.jpg
and
http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/quick.gif
Remember Sonic runs in the speed of sun and supersonic at the speed of light.

[Jplaya2023]

race: sonic and supersonic

an actual fight: flash and qucik silver

[SSJ4_Mikael]

race: sonic and supersonic

an actual fight: flash and qucik silver
I would say vice-versa actually.
Super sonic cannot be killed, he's power is bosted by the chaos emeralds. (He can be downgraded back to sonic though, his power is temporalry)
And the fact that he can fly which would make him unable to reach for Flash and Pietro would add even more sugar to the tea..

[Warhammer]

I'd have to give this one to Wally and Pietro.
Another great match. :up:

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Another great match. :up:
Thank you.

[Warhammer]

Thank you.

No problem, and kudos for even thinking about making this thread. :up:

[LouFerignoDemon]

Flash and Quicksilver.

[Sloth7d]

What!? But sonic and Super sonic are the same person. Wouldn't it make more sense to say something like, Shadow and Sonic?........
Either way. I got Supersonic taking both of them down at the same time in less than five minutes.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Aside from the fact Flash can move lightspeed, AND drain other people's speed?

[Sloth7d]

Aside from the fact that Supersonic is indestructable, on a cosmic level of power, can fly, and moves at warp speed?

[Sloth7d]

Oh, and he can teleport. "Chaos Control!"

[LouFerignoDemon]

Indestructable is pretty useless when it's for a limited time. And Cosmic level is also pretty useless when you can't really use it on someone who's more or less locked you into place.

[Sloth7d]

Flash could never keep up with super sonic.
Flash=light speed on average. Also abouve lightspeed and doing that is almost like suicide for him.
Super sonic=abouve warp speed and it doesn't take alot out of him.
And conturary to belief super sonic mode last longer than you think. Without using any rings to prolonge it Super sonic battled Hyper knuckles in a serious grudge match in the comic SuperSonic vs HyperKnuckles for what seemed like a few hours without any rings to keep himself in that state. But don't forget he CAN use rings to prolonge it even longer.
And how would Flash lock him into place.
Flash=light speed
Sonic=Warp speed

[LouFerignoDemon]

Flash=Speed thief. The only person he's not been able to suck speed out of is Zoom, and that's only because Zoom can bend space/time around himself.

I'm not saying that Supersonic is weaker or anything. But unless he can move faster than light speeds against the Flash without subverting to some subspace or hyperspace, then he has to move as fast as the Flash. But since they live in two different worlds of physics, it's really unfair to compare that. So yeah, if their physics coincide, and Flash for whatever reason can't steal his speed, then Supersonic would take down Flash with no problem.

[Sloth7d]

Curious though. I thought only the nega-flash could steal speeds, so when did flash gain the ability? And Sonic moves at warp speeds compared to flashes light speeds. How would flash catch up to him to steal his speeds?

[LouFerignoDemon]

Curious though. I thought only the nega-flash could steal speeds, so when did flash gain the ability? And Sonic moves at warp speeds compared to flashes light speeds. How would flash catch up to him to steal his speeds?

He's been able to steal speed for a while. I think one of the recent times he did this was when he teamed up with WW and stole the Cheetah's new found Flash-fast superspeed.

And if SuperS moves as Warp speed, that means he moves in warp space, which is outside normal space/time. So technically, he shouldn't be able to interact with the Flash. But if he COULD, then Flash should be able to rip his velocity straight out of him. Or vibrate at a level that would cause SS to phase through him, excite his molecules, and cause him to explode.

[Sloth7d]

He's been able to steal speed for a while. I think one of the recent times he did this was when he teamed up with WW and stole the Cheetah's new found Flash-fast superspeed.
Really! is it like one of those spiderman powers the writers decide to ignore most of the time?

And if SuperS moves as Warp speed, that means he moves in warp space, which is outside normal space/time.

So technically, he shouldn't be able to interact with the Flash.
He can control it. I'm just saying that he can move faster than him without warpin out.
But if he COULD, then Flash should be able to rip his velocity straight out of him. Or vibrate at a level that would cause SS to phase through him, excite his molecules, and cause him to explode.
Sonic=invulnerable and I don't mean regular invulnerable. I mean planet destroying blast didn't effect him invulnerable.
Flash= not invulnerable.
Meaning one good hit from a reved up Super sonic= ko.
I just don't see falsh and Quicksilver beating him, he's just too strong.
Either way, don't you think the match would have made more sense if it was Shadow and Sonic vs Flash and Quicksilver? Instead of Sonic having a clone I never seen before:rolleyes:

[LouFerignoDemon]

It would've made more sense. If SuperSonic is so unbelievably powerful, it would've made more sense to arm Silver Surfer and Flash on the same team.
As for the Flash power? It seems to be largely ignored, since it would make his comic more boring.

If he moves outside of lightspeed, he technically shouldn't be able to move inside of the universe. But if he can, that means he's physical.

Flash isn't invulnerable. He's actually pretty much as weak as a normal human. Bites, knives, and sharp corners hurt Flash. But if he has NO speed, which if he moved inside of the universe, which would mean sublight speed, then Flash should be able to steal his speed, or at the very least sidestep it.

But if SuperSonic is just so cosmically powerful, then it was a really one sided fight. Since he breaks the laws of physics far more than the Flash does.

[Guyverjay]

Super Sonic beats the Flash

He is totally invulnerable, can move fast enough to travel back in time ( he moves so fast his feet don't actually touch the ground) and he can teleport (chaos control)

Plus he can fly

His power source (the chaos emeralds ) is unlimited.

In the comics he could shoot energy beam from his eyes and was powerful enough to move the friggin moon

Sonic can ramp his power up even furthur by turning into hyper sonic. In this form he moves even faster leaving after images when ever he moves. He can also use his HYPER FLASH attack. Basically he blasts the crap out of everything around him with a lightning attack:o

[Jplaya2023]

Super Sonic beats the Flash

He is totally invulnerable, can move fast enough to travel back in time ( he moves so fast his feet don't actually touch the ground) and he can teleport (chaos control)

Plus he can fly

His power source (the chaos emeralds ) is unlimited.

In the comics he could shoot energy beam from his eyes and was powerful enough to move the friggin moon

Sonic can ramp his power up even furthur by turning into hyper sonic. In this form he moves even faster leaving after images when ever he moves. He can also use his HYPER FLASH attack. Basically he blasts the crap out of everything around him with a lightning attack:o

Damn Sonic had a comic book as well. Damn

[Sloth7d]

Yep. Funded under Archie comics. They produced alot of sega character comics, but the longest still running is Sonic the hedchog. And I know knuckles has one, but I'm not sure if they still make it.

[Warhammer]

Thats pretty cool, I should look up on some Sonic comics, because the some of the toons do them no justice. :(

[xii22_loop]

its a major tough choice.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Adam Warlock (with Soulgem)
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/c/c9/Adam_Warlock_003.jpg

VS

chou Son-Gohan
http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/rpg/313/dbzpic1.jpg

[Warhammer]

:(

I can't decide yet.
I have to think about it.
Gohan is my favorite DBZ character, but Adam Warlock with soul gem is so incredibly powerful and can alter, manipulate, control, and steal souls.

Great match-up. :up:

Btw, I wonder how many people will vote for Gohan with no good explanation. :rolleyes:

[Jplaya2023]

Adam Warlock (with Soulgem)
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/c/c9/Adam_Warlock_003.jpg

VS

chou Son-Gohan
http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/rpg/313/dbzpic1.jpg

this is ridiculuous gohan easily with the masenko ha

[Sloth7d]

Adam Warlock (with Soulgem)
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/c/c9/Adam_Warlock_003.jpg

VS

chou Son-Gohan
http://www.fortunecity.com/underworld/rpg/313/dbzpic1.jpg
Can't vote. I don't know who he is.

[LouFerignoDemon]

:(

I can't decide yet.
I have to think about it.
Gohan is my favorite DBZ character, but Adam Warlock with soul gem is so incredibly powerful and can alter, manipulate, control, and steal souls.

Great match-up. :up:

Btw, I wonder how many people will vote for Gohan with no good explanation. :rolleyes:

Everybody with a DBZ name plus 60% of the people who vote in here who don't.


Adam Warlock takes this one. :up:

[Warhammer]

Even though Gohan is my favorite, I have to vote for Adam.

[Alberto]

Who is Adam warlock?

[Alberto]

Super Sonic beats the Flash

He is totally invulnerable, can move fast enough to travel back in time ( he moves so fast his feet don't actually touch the ground) and he can teleport (chaos control)

Plus he can fly

His power source (the chaos emeralds ) is unlimited.

In the comics he could shoot energy beam from his eyes and was powerful enough to move the friggin moon

Sonic can ramp his power up even furthur by turning into hyper sonic. In this form he moves even faster leaving after images when ever he moves. He can also use his HYPER FLASH attack. Basically he blasts the crap out of everything around him with a lightning attack:o


Supersonic rules.

[Warhammer]

Who is Adam warlock?

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Warlock

[Sloth7d]

I vote Gohan.

[Warhammer]

Everybody with a DBZ name plus 60% of the people who vote in here who don't.


Adam Warlock takes this one. :up:

Lol. :up:

[Sloth7d]

He gave me the facts and I read em. Thus I think Gohan is more powerful. Is there a problem with that?

[LouFerignoDemon]

Only if you decide to ignoreizzle the facts after you read them like most DBZ fanboys. If you can actually have a credible reason, then it's perfectly fine to think anything.

[Sloth7d]

I could give you my reasons. But do you really wanna get into one of these big power arguments that results in no one changing their mind on the matter or just accept the fact that I voted Gohan.

[LouFerignoDemon]

I didn't sayizzle you had to. You just asked if it was okay.

[Sloth7d]

I didn't sayizzle you had to. You just asked if it was okay.
Just saying that I've been through too many Goku vs(insert any name here.)
And I have explained myself too many times. Refferenced both characters too many times. And wasted time on a deadlock argument too many times.
And I refuse to go through it again.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Just saying that I've been through too many Goku vs(insert any name here.)
And I have explained myself too many times. Refferenced both characters too many times. And wasted time on a deadlock argument too many times.
And I refuse to go through it again.

That's every DBZ vs thread thoughizzle. I can understand.

[Warhammer]

Oh crap, I forgot to list my reason.
I vote for Adam Warlock because he can control and manipulate Gohan's soul. Adam wouldn't need to lay a finger on Gohan, even though Gohan is a bad motherf****. :)

[rigel7soldiers]

Wait. I can't see the picture; This is old, dead Gohan? Or is is the whiny little kid Gohan? I don't care for Adam Warlock (or Him, as some prefer to call, er, him), so I'm voting for Gohan. And I'm unsure about what the soul gem is for. Thanos never needed it, so it can't be that bad.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Wait. I can't see the picture; This is old, dead Gohan? Or is is the whiny little kid Gohan? I don't care for Adam Warlock (or Him, as some prefer to call, er, him), so I'm voting for Gohan. And I'm unsure about what the soul gem is for. Thanos never needed it, so it can't be that bad.

Yes he did. The Infinity Gauntlet didn't work without it.

And the Soul Gem can rip a soul out of body, twist it, shove it into the gem, all sorts of crazy stuff.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

New battle:

Optimus Prime
http://www.bwtf.com/newsarchive/ultimate/primelg.jpg

VS

Hulk buster Iron man
http://www.advancediron.com/images/HBMark1.gif

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Oh, and to make things clear, Tony is sober during this battle.

[Warhammer]

Another nice battle. :up:

Iron Man would win, plus, he is my favorite Marvel superhero.
He'd blast down Optimus, even though he'd get hurt and it might take him a while. If he had his Hulk-buster armor, it'd be more fair.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Another nice battle. :up:

Iron Man would win, plus, he is my favorite Marvel superhero.
He'd blast down Optimus, even though he'd get hurt and it might take him a while. If he had his Hulk-buster armor, it'd be more fair.
Actually I though that I should pick him, however I though it would be a over kill then, well, edited it.

[Warhammer]

Cool.
I'll give it to Hulk Buster Iron Man.

[Sloth7d]

Naw,I gotta give it to Prime.

[rigel7soldiers]

Well, since it's Hulkbuster Iron Man, he can only bust the Hulk. I mean, he's got different armors to bust different Teammmates (like the ThorBuster suit, for example).

And which Optimus are we talking? Optimal Optimus?
Eh. Optimus takes it, I guess.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Not the big one that stoped a planet, and not a power-linked version of him, simply the normal form.

[Harlekin]

Optimus Prime.

[LouFerignoDemon]

So, not the Extremis Iron Man? Most likely Prime then. Iron Man is strong, powerful and all that. But there's a reason that the Hulk is a huge threat despite his lack of mental power.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Naruto (1 tail unlocked) and Sasuke (2nd seal opened)
http://poc.zaup.org/dolls/contest%206/images/naruto_2.jpghttp://www.naruto-fan.net/uploads/images/sasuke-curse1.jpg
VS
Wolverine and Captain America
http://binarioloco.interfree.it/img/Wolverine.jpghttp://www.comics-unlimited.com/news/images/captain-america%20wallpaper.jpg

[Sloth7d]

Naruto (1 tail unlocked) and Sasuke (2nd seal opened)
http://poc.zaup.org/dolls/contest%206/images/naruto_2.jpghttp://www.naruto-fan.net/uploads/images/sasuke-curse1.jpg
VS
Wolverine and Captain America
http://binarioloco.interfree.it/img/Wolverine.jpghttp://www.comics-unlimited.com/news/images/captain-america%20wallpaper.jpg OMG! Pwnage!
*votes Naruto and Sasuke*
Try a more balanced match up.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

OMG! Pwnage!
*votes Naruto and Sasuke*
Try a more balanced match up.
Remember that Wolverine have regenerection.

[Warhammer]

I never got into that Naruto crap, so I can't vote unless somebody tells me what the 1st tail unlocked and 2nd seal opened mean to Naruto and Sasuke.
I am sure this isn't a one-sided match, though.

[Nathan]

R.I.P. Wolverine & Captain America

No matter how good Cap is, if he goes up against any high skilled Ninja in the Naruto Universe he's dead meat. And about Wolverine, which version is fighting here? 616 or Ultimate? If it's Ultimate it's the same case as Cap, he'd probably just get burned to a crisp. 616 Wolvie would just keep dying a thousand times because he'd always regenerate back, as seen in the last Wolverine issue which is actually complete nonsense.

[Gotenks]

OMG! Pwnage!
*votes Naruto and Sasuke*
Try a more balanced match up.

Agreed.
One-sided for sure.

[rigel7soldiers]

Wolverine has killed hundreds of super ninjas even ethereal ones. If he had assistance from someone with real powers, like maybe Spider-Man, or the Guardian, he might be able to do it.

And honestly, Naruto and Sasuke hate one another. If they could really function as a team, they'd win no matter what. But they take it here anyway.

[Jplaya2023]

I never got into that Naruto crap, so I can't vote unless somebody tells me what the 1st tail unlocked and 2nd seal opened mean to Naruto and Sasuke.
I am sure this isn't a one-sided match, though.

1st tail unlocked is basically like goku doing kaoken X 5.

2nd seal unlocked is basically goku going SSJ2.

Except with obvious differences in power

[marvelisawesome]

naruto one

[Warhammer]

1st tail unlocked is basically like goku doing kaoken X 5.

2nd seal unlocked is basically goku going SSJ2.

Except with obvious differences in power

Thanks.
Ok, definitely Naruto and Sasuke.

Not that it matters, but thats Ultimate Wolverine up there and not 616, so he'd definitely lose.

[Warhammer]

R.I.P. Wolverine & Captain America

No matter how good Cap is, if he goes up against any high skilled Ninja in the Naruto Universe he's dead meat. And about Wolverine, which version is fighting here? 616 or Ultimate? If it's Ultimate it's the same case as Cap, he'd probably just get burned to a crisp. 616 Wolvie would just keep dying a thousand times because he'd always regenerate back, as seen in the last Wolverine issue which is actually complete nonsense.

Yeah, 616 Wolverine's healing factor got a super boost lately.
His factor is almost like Hulk's healing factor.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, 616 Wolverine's healing factor got a super boost lately.
His factor is almost like Hulk's healing factor.

The way it's shaping up, it's looking to be BETTER than Hulks.

[rigel7soldiers]

Yeah, 616 Wolverine's healing factor got a super boost lately.
His factor is almost like Hulk's healing factor.
Lately? In the 80's, he grew his entire body back from a single drop of blood.

[Warhammer]

Really?
His healing factor has been that fast in the 80's?

Damn.
I wasn't old enough back then to read 80's comics.

[Warhammer]

The way it's shaping up, it's looking to be BETTER than Hulks.

Yeah, I know. :(

[Sloth7d]

1st tail unlocked is basically like goku doing kaoken X 5.

2nd seal unlocked is basically goku going SSJ2.

Except with obvious differences in power
What?!
Don't listen to him.
That's completely untrue.

[Sloth7d]

1st tail unlocked is a form of Naruto with enhanced strenth, more chakra, and his chakra is like a willpowered consrtuct surrounding his body.
2nd seal unlocked is a big ugly form of Sasuke that can fly and is on par with(maybe even stronger than) Narutos 1st tail unlocked form.

[Jplaya2023]

1st tail unlocked is a form of Naruto with enhanced strenth, more chakra, and his chakra is like a willpowered consrtuct surrounding his body.
2nd seal unlocked is a big ugly form of Sasuke that can fly and is on par with(maybe even stronger than) Narutos 1st tail unlocked form.

naruto did first tail when he fough saskue and when sasuke went ssj2 with the arms out his back he owned naruto remember he used the chodori and naruto used rasengen and naruto lost.

[Nathan]

Oh please just stop. He didn't simply own Naruto as you put it. Naruto and Sasuke were evenly matched, and Sasuke was lucky and came out on top. Now stop with the SSJ2 analogy.

[Sloth7d]

naruto did first tail when he fough saskue and when sasuke went ssj2 with the arms out his back he owned naruto remember he used the chodori and naruto used rasengen and naruto lost.
I'm just saying comparing 2nd seal released Sasuke to SSj2.
Is like saying Batman(not holding back) compared to Superman (not holding back). Your giving people a misconception about Naruto power levels. And I said Sasuke 2nd seal released is probably stronger than one tail Naruto.

[Warhammer]

Oh, so Sasuke with 2nd Seal is nowhere close to SSJ2 power?
Way to tell me info. :(

[Sloth7d]

Oh, so Sasuke with 2nd Seal is nowhere close to SSJ2 power?
Way to tell me info. :(
Sasuke 2nd seal release is in the DB power levels as well are most Naruto characters.

[Sloth7d]

Dragon ball not Dragon ball-Z.

[Sloth7d]

Oh and lastly.
Narutos 1st tail form is very equal to 2nd release Sasuke.
If I'd have to use references. They're like Wolverine and Sabretooth.
Nearly even matched.

[Jplaya2023]

Oh, so Sasuke with 2nd Seal is nowhere close to SSJ2 power?
Way to tell me info. :(


well ofcourse its not close i was just being loose. I was comparing the transformation to ssj2 not the power. Sorry bro

sasuke seal curse 1 = ssj1
sasuke seal curse 2 = ssj2

in terms of transformations

[Warhammer]

well ofcourse its not close i was just being loose. I was comparing the transformation to ssj2 not the power. Sorry bro

sasuke seal curse 1 = ssj1
sasuke seal curse 2 = ssj2

in terms of transformations

Ahhhhh.
Cool. I gotcha.

Thanks. :up:

[Nathan]

New battle:

Optimus Prime
http://www.bwtf.com/newsarchive/ultimate/primelg.jpg

VS

Hulk buster Iron man
http://www.advancediron.com/images/HBMark1.gif

I know I'm late, but I thought I should just mention anyway that Optimus is actually a Western character too.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

well ofcourse its not close i was just being loose. I was comparing the transformation to ssj2 not the power. Sorry bro

sasuke seal curse 1 = ssj1
sasuke seal curse 2 = ssj2

in terms of transformations
I would say that is more like Fruiza's transformation than a Saiyajin's.

[Jplaya2023]

I would say that is more like Fruiza's transformation than a Saiyajin's.

thats even better, or maybe like cell's. Good one

[Sloth7d]

Ey SSj4Mikael, do you have pictures of Sasuke and Naruto in their transformed forms? I think it'll help people get a better idea.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Ey SSj4Mikael, do you have pictures of Sasuke and Naruto in their transformed forms? I think it'll help people get a better idea.
Yeah sec.

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Yeah sec.
http://shamanaruto.free.fr/fan_arts/naruto/fan_sasuke2.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/Kyuubi_Naruto2.PNG/240px-Kyuubi_Naruto2.PNG

[SSJ4_Mikael]

<edit>

[Warhammer]

Do another match Mikael. :mad:

..please? :)

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Tao Paipai
http://www.orbg.net/oekaki/10page/taopaipai.png
VS

Iron fist
http://philippe.tromeur.free.fr/marvel/images/IronFist.jpg

----------------
Kidoumaru CS-II
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/-Mr.Bluesummers-/Kidoumaru___Colored_by_pokefreak.jpg
VS

Spiderman
http://www.screensavershot.com/animation/spiderman.jpg

----------
Tyrant
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/tyrantgalactus1.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/tyrantgalactus4.jpg
VS
chou Gohan
http://forums.dbzrealm.net/uploads/photo-187.jpg

[rigel7soldiers]

If a guy can match Galactus in power, he can definately take Gohan. Tyrant

I don't know anythin about that spider guy, but I bet he'd win against spider-man.

And Tao Pai Pai... are we talking Mercenary Tao, or Tao 2.0? Mercenary Tao could bea up on Danny all day. But Tao, post upgrade, went down like a little ***** against Tien. Tao.

[Gotenks]

That ''spider guy'' is from Naruto and your right he would kill spiderman.

[Sloth7d]

I vote
Toa
Spiderman
and Chou Gohan

[LouFerignoDemon]

Tyrant all on his own would destroy the opposing team, and his teammates for fun.

[Leto Atrides]

Tao
I know nothing about Kidomaru, but if I had to choose, based on it's appearance, then Spiderman
Tyrant

[SLVRSR4]

:( Spider-man could defeat the spider sound guy from naruto with the first seal but that's it:down

[Jplaya2023]

gohan sama and spiderman win easily

[Sloth7d]

:( Spider-man could defeat the spider sound guy from naruto with the first seal but that's it:down
Kidomaru never showed that he had nearly as much strenth and speed as spiderman in any fore.

[Sloth7d]

fore=form

[Warhammer]

Iron Fist.

One punch will break him.

Kidomaru.

:confused: *Doesn't know who the hell he is*

Tyrant.

Even though Gohan is my favorite, but if Tyrant and take Galactus, then definitely Tyrant. :(

[Jplaya2023]

Iron Fist.

One punch will break him.

Kidomaru.

:confused: *Doesn't know who the hell he is*

Tyrant.

Even though Gohan is my favorite, but if Tyrant and take Galactus, then definitely Tyrant. :(

galactus cant beat gohan, especially not chou gohan sama

[rigel7soldiers]

But Tao Pai Pai has crazy ass super strength and speed. He killed Captain Blue just with his tongue. Captain Blue, the guy who can paralyze people with his mind.

And Galactus is a cosmic deity. You know, a god. The only thing more powerful than Galactus is probably the Living Tribunal.

[Nathan]

I don't know about that. In Exiles #10 Thunderbird managed to punch a hole into Galactus's armor. So I would think a ki-blast of someone who can turn a Planet into dust would make some considerable damage.

[rigel7soldiers]

Yeah, but how come the combined might of the FF, the Avengers, and a couple defenders didn't do crap against him? And that must have been an alternate Galactus, anyway.

[Nathan]

Well, could anyone of those characters obliterate a planet in one single attack?

[rigel7soldiers]

Dr. Strange was there, and he can do crazy magic stuff. Thor might be able to pull that off. I don't remember if the Hulk was there, but he actually has obliterated a planet with a single punch.

[SLVRSR4]

fore=form

neji and spider-man are similat with super senses and neji barely made it out alive since Kodomaru got cocky:o

[Nathan]

Not really similar. Spidey has a Spider-sense that warns him of incoming danger. Neji has a almost complete 360° Vision and can actually see every attack coming, except for that blind spot of his. But if he concentrates his chakra to that blind spot he can even see attacks coming from there.

[Jplaya2023]

Not really similar. Spidey has a Spider-sense that warns him of incoming danger. Neji has a almost complete 360° Vision and can actually see every attack coming, except for that blind spot of his. But if he concentrates his chakra to that blind spot he can even see attacks coming from there.

if he can see 360 what's his blindspot.

[rigel7soldiers]

if he can see 360 what's his blindspot.
From what I gather, he can't; That's why Nathan used the qualifier "almost".

[Jplaya2023]

From what I gather, he can't; That's why Nathan used the qualifier "almost".

So he should be the best then. How did he lose to naruto in the chounin exam.

[Nathan]

1. The collision between Naruto's huge chakra and Neji's Kaiten damaged him badly and exhausted his strength.
2. He believed Naruto to be defeated. That's why he didn't use his Byakugan and never saw Naruto's attack from below coming.

[Sloth7d]

neji and spider-man are similat with super senses and neji barely made it out alive since Kodomaru got cocky:o
Not really, eitherway Neji has shown no sign of being nearly as strong, fast, or agile as Spiderman. Neither has Kidomaru. Heck, he couldn't even fight hand to hand with Neji and win, thus his strategy to attack from a distance.

[Sloth7d]

And Neji's vision=359 degrees. Maybe a little less.

[Nathan]

That's because Neji's moves seal chakra openings. And I admit, Neji doesn't have the strength, but is easily faster than Spidey. Or have you ever seen Spidey dealing like 64 hits in several seconds? Not to forget defeating those several hundred Spiders that were attacking him from every direction. And I'm also sure Neji is agile enough to handle the likes of Spidey.

Just because he doesn't show it every second like Spidey doesn't mean he's a klutz. Spidey's signature is his agility, that's why you see him in awkward poses almost every panel. Neji has more to offer. He has speed, agility, martial arts skill, Ninjitsu moves, etc. He's a trained Elite Genius Ninja. I mean, come one, he used to beat Rock Lee on a daily basis, and you've seen how fast he is without his weights. And he wasnt weak either, he was pulling a freaking big root of a tree out of the ground.

And if Kidomaru could give someone like Neji trouble, and also nearly kill him, I'm sure he'd handle Spidey pretty well.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well, could anyone of those characters obliterate a planet in one single attack?

List of Avengers and Defenders that have actually gone up to Galactus with planetary destructive power:


Strange, Silver Surfer, Clea, Quasar has the potential, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Scarlet Witch (Though I doubt at the time she should be counted, since her powers have only recently reached that level, and now are allegedly gone, so strike her, but I'll put her up there anyway because she might have been able to do something.) Thunderstrike, Binary, Firebird could open up heavy distortions in time and space that could theoretically destroy planets, and allegedly the Sentry.

None of which really have hurt Galactus more than slightly damaging his armor. Most recently StormBreaker: Saga of Beta Ray Bill. Someone just as powerful, (if not more so than some people believe) than Thor. Who's hammer strike DECIMATED a planet into splinters through his enemy he was trying to hit, who was a fairly soft cushioning being named Stardust, and all his full power could do is make a small crack in Galactus' mask.

Omit the Sentry, who, in the same mini, was said he was power infinite, could fight Galactus to a standstill, was the most powerful hero of all time, and was the only person capably of physically defeating the Void, another character who could easily destroy planets allegedly.

[xwolverine2]

goku or any super sayijn is stronger than god.....lol!

[Jplaya2023]

That's because Neji's moves seal chakra openings. And I admit, Neji doesn't have the strength, but is easily faster than Spidey. Or have you ever seen Spidey dealing like 64 hits in several seconds? Not to forget defeating those several hundred Spiders that were attacking him from every direction. And I'm also sure Neji is agile enough to handle the likes of Spidey.

Just because he doesn't show it every second like Spidey doesn't mean he's a klutz. Spidey's signature is his agility, that's why you see him in awkward poses almost every panel. Neji has more to offer. He has speed, agility, martial arts skill, Ninjitsu moves, etc. He's a trained Elite Genius Ninja. I mean, come one, he used to beat Rock Lee on a daily basis, and you've seen how fast he is without his weights. And he wasnt weak either, he was pulling a freaking big root of a tree out of the ground.

And if Kidomaru could give someone like Neji trouble, and also nearly kill him, I'm sure he'd handle Spidey pretty well.

Spiderman holds back in every fight because he's afraid of killing his opponent so we never seen his full potential. If spiderman hits you noce at ful strength chances are u would die immediately, so him hitting you 63 more times is pointless.

[Nathan]

Like at the speed a lot of them fight he'd get the chance to land a hit. And if Neji can with no trouble block, counter or dodge the hits of several dozen Naruto's that are attacking him from every direction, I don't see how Spidey would manage to land a hit.

And even isn't as strong as Spidey or even isn't anywhere near the 1 Ton range, all it needs are a couple of well placed hits and Spidey is down. Because, as you pobably remember, Neji fights by flowing chakra into his opponents body and damaging his inner organs. So if he only gets one clear hit to Spidey's heart, he's down.

[Warhammer]

Nice Dinobot avvy, Nathan.

It is Dinobot, right?

[LouFerignoDemon]

Like at the speed a lot of them fight he'd get the chance to land a hit. And if Neji can with no trouble block, counter or dodge the hits of several dozen Naruto's that are attacking him from every direction, I don't see how Spidey would manage to land a hit.

And even isn't as strong as Spidey or even isn't anywhere near the 1 Ton range, all it needs are a couple of well placed hits and Spidey is down. Because, as you pobably remember, Neji fights by flowing chakra into his opponents body and damaging his inner organs. So if he only gets one clear hit to Spidey's heart, he's down.

Spidey's been in a ton of fights where he's in close quarters getting shot at from all directions.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Nice Dinobot avvy, Nathan.

It is Dinobot, right?

Transmetal 2 Dinobot in fact.

[Warhammer]

Transmetal 2 Dinobot in fact.

Yep.
I bought that transformer when it came out.
Dinobot was one of the best bots in Beast Wars.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Correction, THIRD best bot next to TigerHawk and Optimal Optimus. lol

I wish they came out with a figure for Optimus like that. He was easily the coolest of them all.

[Warhammer]

All of the Optimus's were cool.
Transmetal Cheetor and the stringray (Forgot his name) were badass.

[LouFerignoDemon]

See, I didn't like Cheetor's secondary transformation. And Depth Charge WAS cool. Just not as cool as Rhinox. And you CAN'T forget the Transmutate.

You jerk. Making me dredge up all these awesome memories!

[Nathan]

Why did Depth Charge have to die? :(

[Warhammer]

Why did Depth Charge have to die? :(

I know right? :(
He was a badass.

[Warhammer]

See, I didn't like Cheetor's secondary transformation. And Depth Charge WAS cool. Just not as cool as Rhinox. And you CAN'T forget the Transmutate.

You jerk. Making me dredge up all these awesome memories!

Thanks for remembering Depth Charge's name.
Rhinox was a badass, but I hated that he was the only one that didn't have a transmetal form, even though I had his TM toy.

And sorry about the memories. I'm hurting, too. :(

[Nathan]

Ah yes, the pain. I couldn't believe I had to relive Dinobot's death a 2nd time. :mad: :(

[Warhammer]

Like I said above, Dinobot was one of the best in Beast Wars, and arguable the best character. I still like Optimus better. :p :(

[LouFerignoDemon]

Thanks for remembering Depth Charge's name.
Rhinox was a badass, but I hated that he was the only one that didn't have a transmetal form, even though I had his TM toy.

And sorry about the memories. I'm hurting, too. :(


It's okay, I still tolerate your existance enough to not flip out. j/k ;)


I actually kind of liked Rhinox without the TM form, though I think it would've been cool if he got one too. Though he wouldn't have been anything cool like a tank, just that snow cat truck thing. At least the others were practical.


As for Dinobot's second death? THAT was far better than his first death. And it was kind of cool. And, theoretically, he didn't die. He shared Ravage's spark, and it was said to be indestructible. It's possible he regenerated over time. Who knows? Maybe he became the Dinobots of Generation 2 as pieces of him regrew or something.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Like I said above, Dinobot was one of the best in Beast Wars, and arguable the best character. I still like Optimus better. :p :(


Dinobot was definitely top ten. It kind of felt like before the whole "swordsman honor" thing really took off into several other shows and comics and such for me. Don't know why. But after seeing Dinobot, I began to see his "type" everywhere. That, and his head spun during transformation.

[Jplaya2023]

Next Fight

Orochimaru Sama

http://www.karimtemple.com/orochimaru.gif

VS

Captain Marvell San (the one from DC)

http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/shazam/tvshow/shazam-captain-marvel.jpg

[LouFerignoDemon]

I'm going to go out on a limb, and assume it's the one with extreme superspeed, invulnerability, extreme superstrength, extreme knowledge of magic and wisdom, and extreme stamina.

Plus, he can allegedly call heavy bolts of lightning down on his enemies now.

[Jplaya2023]

I'm going to go out on a limb, and assume it's the one with extreme superspeed, invulnerability, extreme superstrength, extreme knowledge of magic and wisdom, and extreme stamina.

Plus, he can allegedly call heavy bolts of lightning down on his enemies now.

yeah him, there was a JLA episode where he was owning superman easily with the lightning bolts until something freak happened and he turned into a kid. Superman was moments away from death

[Warhammer]

Shazam would definitely win, but that is TV Shazam in that pic.

Orochimaru Sama deiniftely wins over TV Captain Marvel.

[Jplaya2023]

Shazam would definitely win, but that is TV Shazam in that pic.

Orochimaru Sama deiniftely wins over TV Captain Marvel.

im talking about this one

http://www.ualberta.ca/~jd8/images/captain_marvel.jpg

[LouFerignoDemon]

I was comparing comic Marvel. If it's TV Marvel, I don't know too much about him.

And if it were the actual Shazam, you could unleash every fricking force in Naruto against him, and he'd still bat them away like nothing. lol

[Warhammer]

yeah him, there was a JLA episode where he was owning superman easily with the lightning bolts until something freak happened and he turned into a kid. Superman was moments away from death

Captain Marvel was the boy. He turns into Captain Marvel.
When Marvel yells "Shazam", he summons a thunderbolt and switches back from man to boy. He held Superman in his way, so the thunderbolt hit Supes instead of him. Superman moved out of the way, and the thunderbolt hit Shazam. No freak accident.

Btw, Supes was nowhere close to dying, but he was lose to being seriously beat down.

[Warhammer]

im talking about this one

http://www.ualberta.ca/~jd8/images/captain_marvel.jpg

Oh, well definitely Shazam for the win. :up:
He's just too much for Orochimaru Sama.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Shazam!

Wisdom of Solomon
Strength of Hercules
Stamina of Atlas
Power of Zeus
Courage of Achilles and
Speed of Mercury.

The wizard's name is Shazam, standing for those gods there. When Billy calls the wizard's name, he's struck by a bolt of lighting, and granted a gift by the gods, dubbing him "Captain Marvel, Earth's Mightiest Mortal."

Supe's wasn't close to dying, but he was getting his rear handed to him, until he slipped around, and Billy's bolt turned him back.

[Jplaya2023]

next fight

neiji sama (byukagen gun on)

http://img.onatoo.com/loc12/neiji.jpg

VS

http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~vps/images/Ultimate%20Cyclops.jpg

cyclops

[Nathan]

Neji. I don't see Neji having trouble dodging Scott's Optic Blasts in the least. And once he's up close it's over.

[Jplaya2023]

hokage sama

http://konoha.w.interia.pl/avatary/hokage002.jpg

vs

Magneto

http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~vps/images/Magneto.jpg

[LouFerignoDemon]

Until Captain Marvel comes in. Then it's over.


What do you mean he can't cross universes and join in on the fight?!

Sentry?

Hulk?

Flatman?

Oh you guys are horrible!

[Jplaya2023]

rock lee sama (all lotus 8 gates open)
http://duodragonstemple.blig.ig.com.br/imagens/rock_lee3.jpg

vs

deathstroke
http://superheroshowdown.homestead.com/files/Deathstroke.jpg

[Jplaya2023]

deadpool

http://www.christianmoore.com/DeadPool/imaages/stuff/jim1.jpg

vs


shino

http://www.absoluteanime.com/naruto/shino.jpg

[Warhammer]

Too many battles.
Do you want me to vote for all of them at same time, Jplaya?

[Jplaya2023]

Too many battles.
Do you want me to vote for all of them at same time, Jplaya?

yes or u can do it seperately

[Jplaya2023]

kakashi sensai (sharigan enabled)

http://www.fushichoo.blogger.com.br/Hatake%20Kakashi.jpg

vs

green lantern (green lantern ring enabled)

http://www.newsarama.com/WW_Chicago_04/DC/Green_Lantern.jpg

[Nathan]

Ok it's starting to get stupid and annoying.

[Warhammer]

yes or u can do it seperately

Isn't it kinda fast?

[SLVRSR4]

Kakashi is great but he has little chance of beating any GL unless it is a fight in a very small and conceilable area. Why does neji have a swastika he has an x!? Dinobot was awesome he always gave the cheetah a hard time because he was the "badass with a heart of gold" wth was up with the cheetah guys second evo. where he had to put his hadns together to shoot that made him weaker! i think Neji wins if Chakra can deflect concussive force which i htink it can. Hokage beats magneto he has a lot more abilities and the same experience.:)

[Warhammer]

Too many batles.
Jplaya, slow your role!

[Sloth7d]

What annoyingly one sided fights
I vote
Orochimaru(the only fair fight)
Neji-hands down
Hokage
Lee(easily. I mean get real.)
and Kakashi.

[Jplaya2023]

What annoyingly one sided fights
I vote
Orochimaru(the only fair fight)
Neji-hands down
Hokage
Lee(easily. I mean get real.)
and Kakashi.

how are they one sided?????

[Gotenks]

Damn!
You could at least put them all in one post.
What did you just learn how to post pictures and went crazy?

Orochimaru
Neji
Hokage(wont be easy)
Lee
I think lantern would have a chance but would lose to kakashi.

[Warhammer]

how are they one sided?????

I'm wondering the same thing.
I think you posted some good fights.

[Warhammer]

I vote for:

- Captain Marvel. (Definitely the winner)
- Neiji. (Will dodge and crush Scott)
- Magneto.
- Rock Lee. (In terms of fighting, he'll win)
- Aburame Shino.
- Hatake Kakashi. (Only maybe slightly winning over Lantern)
-

[Leto Atrides]

Keep in mind I don't watch Naruto, so much of my information on characters is from Wikipedia.

Captain Marvel
Sickly, ludicrously powerful. He'd take the fight for sure.

Neji Sama
Cyke is pretty fast for a normal person, but he's still a normal person as far as physical abilities go. He's very effective as leader of a group, but by himself, not so much.

Hokage...?
What little I can find out about seems to indicate he's stronger than Magneto, but I'm really not sure.

Rock Lee...?
Hard to call. Normally I'd say Deathstroke, but I don't know about the whole Lotus Gates thing.

Deadpool
Very tough, and has a high degree of regenerative power. He's got it.

Green Lantern
Any Green Lantern could win, and Hal is the best of them. I'm sure he'd have no problem at all.

I thought they were all pretty even, except the last one.

[Jplaya2023]

Keep in mind I don't watch Naruto, so much of my information on characters is from Wikipedia.

Captain Marvel
Sickly, ludicrously powerful. He'd take the fight for sure.

Neji Sama
Cyke is pretty fast for a normal person, but he's still a normal person as far as physical abilities go. He's very effective as leader of a group, but by himself, not so much.

Hokage...?
What little I can find out about seems to indicate he's stronger than Magneto, but I'm really not sure.

Rock Lee...?
Hard to call. Normally I'd say Deathstroke, but I don't know about the whole Lotus Gates thing.

Deadpool
Very tough, and has a high degree of regenerative power. He's got it.

Green Lantern
Any Green Lantern could win, and Hal is the best of them. I'm sure he'd have no problem at all.

I thought they were all pretty even, except the last one.

Hal isnt better than John

[Leto Atrides]

Hal isnt better than John

John is good as a Lantern, but Hal is the widely considered the strongest and most valorous Lantern ever. He's a legend. When he became Parrallax, he took out a good amount of the rest of the Lantern Corps, and that was still only with just his ring. Stewart is couargeous and has alot of willpower, but he lacks Hal or Kyle's imagination (very important when you consider their capability).

If you mean as a character, it's debatable, it's really up to personal opinion. My favorite is Alan Scott personally. But as a Green Lantern Hal is one of the best of all time.

[LouFerignoDemon]

John is good as a Lantern, but Hal is the widely considered the strongest and most valorous Lantern ever. He's a legend. When he became Parrallax, he took out a good amount of the rest of the Lantern Corps, and that was still only with just his ring. Stewart is couargeous and has alot of willpower, but he lacks Hal or Kyle's imagination (very important when you consider their capability).

If you mean as a character, it's debatable, it's really up to personal opinion. My favorite is Alan Scott personally. But as a Green Lantern Hal is one of the best of all time.

That was with Parralax empowering him though. His ring should only allow him to take on maybe two or three other lanterns at a time, tops. Hal is considered to be able to weild his ring better due to stronger willpower. But Gardner in that breath is equally as powerful.

And Hal almost lacks an imagination, where Stewarts constructs come from his architectual ability. Most of Hal's constructs are bubbles, or plates, or hammers, or something like that. Maybe a fist.

And Alan Scott, though not a technical Lantern, is easily the best. Who's power can bend a black hole's direction based on willpower? Alan's. Who can summon forth an entire, independently moving army seemingly effortless? Alan.

That and his ring allegedly makes him one of the strongest characters in DCU period. But that's debatable of course.

Hal, just more or less, seems to be "iconic" in the fact people in the real world view Superman. Sure, people don't know much about Superman, but they DO know about him, so when asked which hero they look up to, it's Superman. It seems pretty similar for Hal. All the other Lanterns did things that equalled or accellerated past Hal ringslinging wise. But, like Superman, he was the first GL Corps. Green Lantern.

[rigel7soldiers]

CM
Neji
Deadpool
Deathstroke the Terminator (come on. The guy beat the justice league by himself.)
Mags
Green Lantern (he's the ****ing green lantern. He's got one of the most powerful weapons in the universe on his hand.)

[Jplaya2023]

CM
Neji
Deadpool
Deathstroke the Terminator (come on. The guy beat the justice league by himself.)
Mags
Green Lantern (he's the ****ing green lantern. He's got one of the most powerful weapons in the universe on his hand.)

the sharigan is the most powerful technique in the naruto universe.

[Leto Atrides]

That was with Parralax empowering him though. His ring should only allow him to take on maybe two or three other lanterns at a time, tops. Hal is considered to be able to weild his ring better due to stronger willpower. But Gardner in that breath is equally as powerful.

And Hal almost lacks an imagination, where Stewarts constructs come from his architectual ability. Most of Hal's constructs are bubbles, or plates, or hammers, or something like that. Maybe a fist.

And Alan Scott, though not a technical Lantern, is easily the best. Who's power can bend a black hole's direction based on willpower? Alan's. Who can summon forth an entire, independently moving army seemingly effortless? Alan.

That and his ring allegedly makes him one of the strongest characters in DCU period. But that's debatable of course.

Hal, just more or less, seems to be "iconic" in the fact people in the real world view Superman. Sure, people don't know much about Superman, but they DO know about him, so when asked which hero they look up to, it's Superman. It seems pretty similar for Hal. All the other Lanterns did things that equalled or accellerated past Hal ringslinging wise. But, like Superman, he was the first GL Corps. Green Lantern.

Good points all, especially about Stewart's creativity. I was confusing him with DCAU Stewart, who is really bland with his constructs.

I still have to lean towards Hal for willpower though. I mean, he also turned Spectre away from vengence to redemption. Equal ringslinging has been seen, but I think he's still got everybody with his will.

My base point still stands though: I think an average Lantern can beat Kakashi, and Hal's above average.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Good points all, especially about Stewart's creativity. I was confusing him with DCAU Stewart, who is really bland with his constructs.

I still have to lean towards Hal for willpower though. I mean, he also turned Spectre away from vengence to redemption. Equal ringslinging has been seen, but I think he's still got everybody with his will.

My base point still stands though: I think an average Lantern can beat Kakashi, and Hal's above average.

DCAU Stewart is like comic Hal. Just bland in the ringslinging department.

As far as willpower goes, the top two GL Corps earthmen are allegedly Hal and Guy, with Jon as a backup to both. And Alan Scott is probably considered the MOST powerful, being his ring doesn't really assist him with anything, it ALL has to be done by him.

Though Hal really messed up against the Spectre. He didn't really get the Spectre to do crap except lose the right to condemn souls to hell, in which he had to basically do things the Spectre's way to get the right back. He just went emo, and did a bunch of nothing it seemed like.

A cop from Gotham is doing a better job keeping the Spectre in line than Hal EVER did.