I Hate Fox!

[pt_photo_inc]

oh great... no script, no plot, no director, one actor, and a release date for 2007!

[GL's Light]

It does have a script. David Benioff has been working on the script for ages, and is now putting the final polish on it.

[Retroman]

They've got a script (which means a plot too). The writer has been at it since late 2004.
http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=2066

The rest is all true sadly or they've already signed up a director with out us knowing.

[Cyclops]

Fox won't learn from its mistakes because they profit from them. They profited from X3 despite their horrible mistakes, so they'll repeat them again and again and again until people stop seeing these movies.

[pt_photo_inc]

Fox won't learn from its mistakes because they profit from them. They profited from X3 despite their horrible mistakes, so they'll repeat them again and again and again until people stop seeing these movies.

I know, and it is sad! I hope SR kills them... and i dont like superman over Xmen but maybe it will show them what a "great" movie can do over a "well advertised and placed (on memorial day) movie can do!" but maybe not. with the announcment of wolverine and FF2 all to be done with in 10 months.

[pt_photo_inc]

It does have a script. David Benioff has been working on the script for ages, and is now putting the final polish on it.

Last i heard the 3rd script was rejected.

[GL's Light]

Last i heard the 3rd script was rejected.
Don't think so. Hugh Jackman referenced Benioff's script recently and said it was just about good to go - and Jackman's producing as well as starring, so he should know.

[Slim_X]

I don't like Wolverine so much so if the movie ends up sucking I won't even see it.

[pt_photo_inc]

well it isnt hugh i am worried about... i am worried about a studio that tries to put together comic movies in 10 months, and thinks cause they turn a profit that they are doing it right! wish there was a way to hit them in thier pockets!

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't like Wolverine so much so if the movie ends up sucking I won't even see it.

You can't know it sucks though, unless you see it...

[pt_photo_inc]

well guys i think i am gone. I dont care to have an account with this site anymore.

[Retroman]

:confused: :confused:

[boydston_14]

This was one of the first things I realized when I heard the announcement, that they don't have a director, there is only one actor and they wont start filming until all that comes into place. I think the least we can hope for is a release date later in the year, but I doubt that'll happen. Fox never learns...

[Fanticon]

if they do stick to their guns and go with a 2007 release...they're going to need all the time they can so it better not come out any earlier than October...personally I doubt it will even come out next year...this one is going to be a train wreck...I can already feel it, re-shoots, re-writes, re-casting supporting characters...Hugh, though committed...usually seems to find room for other projects between his attachments to Xmen and Wolverine...I wonder if he's having second thoughts...not just about the movie...but the release date and his personal schedule, can't be good news to him...unless he's thinking "the sooner I break away from Fox the better...so I better get it over with"...this mentality will translate on the screen, combined with negative buzz and offscreen drama....I predict failure on all counts.

[GL's Light]

This talk of Hugh wanting to break with Fox is folks projecting their own feelings about the studio onto him.

Hugh has a strong relationship with Fox. They've pretty much handed him control of this project. He's shepherded the screenplay, and he has the power to select a director (with the studio's input, of course).

Yes, Fox has screwed up on Marvel films in the past, but in this case we have a film that already has a script pretty much locked up, and a producer-star who knows what he wants and knows exactly how to play the part. There's really no reason for foot-stomping yet. Let's at least wait for the announcement of a director and release date before breaking out the pitchforks, shall we?

[ultimatefan]

Oh yeah, I KNEW they were going to do this... That´s always the deal with Fox, they never give the filmmakers time to get the story right, it´s always about fast release and short screening time...

[Jan Irisi]

Oh come on people, calm it down. This script has been worked on, heck even before X3 was written for crying out loud. This film is going to be more focused and not near as broad a spectrum as the team film was. It will probably not be a FX extravaganza, and will more than likely be more character driven. Smaller scale. This film will have a a far shorter shooting schedule, possibly 2-3 months as opposed to 5 or 6. Now if they had announced they were going for a May release, yeah, I'd get a bit nervous, but a date has not been announced, and the date is always subject to change!!!!!!!!! Ghost Rider was moved around, wasn't it? Nothing is set in stone yet. They may be aiming for November or December.

So as GL's Light said, let's not break out the pitchforks quite yet, ok?

[x-fan]

good post jan, i agree. now if fox will lol

[KenK]

This talk of Hugh wanting to break with Fox is folks projecting their own feelings about the studio onto him.

Hugh has a strong relationship with Fox. They've pretty much handed him control of this project. He's shepherded the screenplay, and he has the power to select a director (with the studio's input, of course).

Yes, Fox has screwed up on Marvel films in the past, but in this case we have a film that already has a script pretty much locked up, and a producer-star who knows what he wants and knows exactly how to play the part. There's really no reason for foot-stomping yet. Let's at least wait for the announcement of a director and release date before breaking out the pitchforks, shall we?

I suppose, but I look at how well Superman Returns seems to be turning out, between reading reviews, some from papers where they usually hate everything, and hearing some positive fan reaction, not to mention the clips shown thus far, the film at least looks visually competent. Or Batman Begins, or Spider-Man. Films like this are the ones that do the best because the studios hire the right people and lets them do their job. Fox clearly didn't care that their screenwriters' credits included some of the worst reviewed movies of the last two years, INCLUDING comic book movies like Catwoman and Elektra. And once the script leaked to the public, FOX clearly didn't care that a vast majority of people HATED it. And then there's just months them blowing smoke up our asses. "Oh, Cyclops will have an important role in the film." "We've changed a lot in the script, so some things are different." and so on, and so on. Not to mention featuring characters and costume who never appear in costume in the film. That's just deceptive and insulting to the audience. Seeing Angel in uniform on the Premiere cover really lifted my expectations for the character in the film, only to discover his involvement is so minimal, he might as well not have been in the film at all. They could have made up a character exclusively for the film whose company developed the cure, or even, expand on the Rao character. Make it her project alone.

And I think that's been the big thing that's bothered fans with the X-Men films, countless wasted characters. I've enjoyed Mystique in the films, and I wouldn't necessarily complain about the fact that her relationship with Rogue AND Nightcrawler is excluded from the films. But dammit, they couldn't even hint at Sabretooth and Wolverine having a past, beyond Sabre's affinity for Logan's dogtags. Sabretooth is a representation of what Wolverine struggles not to be, a sadistic animal. Their relationship runs very deep, and its that relationship that defines Sabretooth as a character. Sabretooth as his own entity isn't nearly as interesting. And the list goes on and on, Deathstrike, Callisto (who isn't even referred to by name in the film anyway), Psylocke, Trask, Juggernaut. ESPECIALLY Juggernaut! All misused and underdeveloped for no justifiable reason. It's a pain to see some of our favorite characters reduced to monosyllabic cronies (if they even speak at all!). Granted, the re-imagining of William Stryker was pitch-perfect, IMO.

[drmick]

Didn't Jackman say he would have liked Ratner to direct?

[Drago]

Last i heard the 3rd script was rejected.

I don't think any of his scripts have been rejected, just that he's been going back and retooling it for the next draft.

[WorthyStevens]

I know, and it is sad! I hope SR kills them... and i dont like superman over Xmen but maybe it will show them what a "great" movie can do over a "well advertised and placed (on memorial day) movie can do!"

Agreed.

[Slim_X]

You can't know it sucks though, unless you see it...
I usually don't care about reviews, but if this movie gets bad reviews then I wont waste my money on it. I won't give FOX more money to ruin my favorite superheroes.

[thegameq]

To hell with Fox. Watch the S3 teaser trailer.

Raimi is about to do it again! Give the fans what we want, a REAL comicbook movie. Not a half-hearted attempt or some ego driven version of our beloved characters.

Please God, let Raimi bring another Marvel comic to life in the near future....him or Jackson that is.

S3 in 07 is the real deal.

[GL's Light]

SHH has updated the story - the original article they quoted has now removed any mention of a 2007 release date. Could've been a mistake on the reporter's part. So Wolverine may be slated for a 2008 release after all, and this is much ado about nothing.

[pt_photo_inc]

This talk of Hugh wanting to break with Fox is folks projecting their own feelings about the studio onto him.

Hugh has a strong relationship with Fox. They've pretty much handed him control of this project. He's shepherded the screenplay, and he has the power to select a director (with the studio's input, of course).

Yes, Fox has screwed up on Marvel films in the past, but in this case we have a film that already has a script pretty much locked up, and a producer-star who knows what he wants and knows exactly how to play the part. There's really no reason for foot-stomping yet. Let's at least wait for the announcement of a director and release date before breaking out the pitchforks, shall we?

well i should be gone soon. i dont want to be a part of this site anymore. but i will leave some thoughts on my thread here.

here is my issue. very intelligent reply, i like your insight... but isnt hugh the one that said he would like to work with Ratner on it? and isnt he the one that said he thinks X3 is the best of the trilogy? and everyone always wants to say "No pitchforks yet!" which i agree with... when it comes to SM3 or movies that the companies making them give the crew free will to make it under thier own conditions. SM3 has been filming since before x3 and is still filming! Superman Returns took its precious time! There is a big key word missing from fox's work.... "SIGNIFICANCE". They seem to cut all the scenes or make it impossible to add that into thier movies. You can tell by watching Superman Returns that there are sooo many scenes added just to build significance! And it was touching!

Why schedule release dates before the movie starts filming? and I have a magazine here about X3 where Hugh says that he has "rejected the second draft" of the script and is waiting for a revision. So yes they may have been working on it for a while.... but just a few months ago it wasnt good enough to keep.... so what is it now?

[pt_photo_inc]

To hell with Fox. Watch the S3 teaser trailer.

Raimi is about to do it again! Give the fans what we want, a REAL comicbook movie. Not a half-hearted attempt or some ego driven version of our beloved characters.

Please God, let Raimi bring another Marvel comic to life in the near future....him or Jackson that is.

S3 in 07 is the real deal.

I look forward to spiderman and let me just put it in writing here.... RECORD NUMBERS IN THE BOX OFFICE, and i want to go on record saying all these fans *****ing about Grace/venom.... go get a girl friend and **** off! It will be fantastic to see Venom portrayed by someone that doesnt look like he has a full time membership at 24 hour fitness. "i am soooooooooooo dark and soooooooooooooo evil..... i will be back in an hour. I have to go to 24 hour fitness... while i am still this whinny *****!" And do you know how much he would have to eat? I mean... it really doesnt suit his character. Venom should look "lanky". Just like the rumors of Betany being cast for JOKER! How freaking perfect would that be! Casting is rarely an issue until you see if it works. But trust me... non of the *****ers on this site, know if it will work or not. So hats off to SPM3, and the company producing it.

[GL's Light]

Hugh's comments are supportive of Fox and X3 because he has a strong relationship with them that he intends to maintain. Stars always talk up their latest film in glowing terms, whether they mean it or not - that's just the Hollywood system, like it or not.

Hugh has said that he'd consider Brett Ratner as director of Wolverine, but that he wants a style different to the X-Men films. Hopefully he was just being polite to Ratner and that he'll go with someone else.

Should Fox give their films longer shooting schedules? Absolutely. You'll get no argument from me on that. But Fox's methods sometimes end in good films despite the rush. I'm willing to give this film the benefit of the doubt until I have reason not to.

[boywonder13]

It's okay guys check out the new thread Wolverine isnt coming out in 07 it was a mistake: Hollywood Reporter clarified

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239559

[Retroman]

*breathes sigh of relief*

[pt_photo_inc]

It's okay guys check out the new thread Wolverine isnt coming out in 07 it was a mistake: Hollywood Reporter clarified

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239559


yeah... like they said "Cannes just guessed the movie length for X3..." remember... fox has methods of HUSHING bad gossip online.... it is an ancient method called "LYING"

[Kmack]

Fox won't learn from its mistakes because they profit from them. They profited from X3 despite their horrible mistakes, so they'll repeat them again and again and again until people stop seeing these movies.
Sadly, this is absolutely true. I'm sick of them screwing up my favorite franchise!:mad::(:down

[Prognosticator]

Didn't Jackman say he would have liked Ratner to direct?

I wouldn't be surprised, but Ratner's busy with Rush Hour 3. Don't worry folks, I'm sure they'll put some other "studio ***hole" in the director's chair. Probably a hip-hop music video director that knows how to throw sh** together real quick!

[Prognosticator]

...Anything sooner than Summer 2008 will be an absolute DISASTER!!!

Plus, Hugh just jumped on board that Nicole Kidman pic.

[neemer5]

They can easily pump out a film in a year and a half.

But if they sacrifice the quality, they'd kill any potential long-term investment they had with this franchise.

[pt_photo_inc]

tis true? unless they dont see a future franchise

[thegameq]

I wonder what aspect of Wolvie's life are they going to explore. His black-ops years? His Weapon X years leading into a possible Alpha Flight film?

There is really some great material for the director/writers to draw from. But who am I kidding? Just as they decided to throw the comics out the window for the X-films, they'll probably do the same for this film. They'll probably get some director with an ego who wants to put his mark on the film, rather than just follow the source material as closely as possible. That or another corporate yes man. Worse, Fox will probably direct this film from the board room and the accounting department like they did X3.

The potential is there, but the whole thing just reeks of Fox just trying to cash in with as little risk as possible. I know it's way to early to judge, but I can't get excited or have any faith in anything Fox does with Marvel's properties anymore.

Make me a (true) believer Fox.

[Horrorfan]

I personally thought X3 was easily the best of the trilogy, so if this turns out as well as X3 I will be more than happy :up:

[pt_photo_inc]

and you horrorfan are my reason for eye twitching and the reason that fox gets away with being so ****ty. cause you like any piece of crap laid out in front of you. I am soo freaking tired of "ratner" or "x3" fans. The movie sucked! PERIOD! Sucked... you know how after the movie comes out they release a new trailer for tv with the reviews about it in the trailer? Did you notice how X men the last stand had like one, and it was from some no body a fox owned newpaper. Some thing like "visually stunning" "the best action film of the year". Now go to supermans new trailer on tv where it is being praised as "the best movie of the year" "completely lives up to every exspectation" "absolutely a must see", all from TIME, ROLLINGSTONES, PEOPLE, ETC.....

Like i said before Singer= Sigificant. Like putting real emotion into an action movie so you care about the action. Not cause "WOW that was an hour and twenty minutes of look good cgi! that is all i need to be happy!" there are more holes in X3 then are excusable. To me, it ranks right there with ELEKTRA in story. Yes it was visually amazing, but yes it was retarded. Please dont come on here and praise X3 unless you back it up with something intelligent. I have yet to hear one well made arguement about X3 from its "fans". They are just like "ratner let the characters loose which singer was afraid to do", which is stupid cause singer let his characters loose. It was just inbetween scenes of significance to build up to the scene. (IE. Wolverine in the mansion!)

anyways.... i keep coming back to this thread only. and they keep not deleting my account like I ask them. I think i will become the troll of this thead. Just here to attack anyone that doesnt have something smart to say. Maybe they will delete me as a troll.

on that note. "HORRORFAN" your a ****ing retarded eye candy needing, popcorn supporting, piece of ****- traitor to "true" X-fans, giving your love, loyalty, and money to those that would destroy the beautiful stories you claim to respect.

[danoyse]

Oh, grow up. :rolleyes:

I liked the movie too, and I don't care how much it makes your eyes twitch.

[pt_photo_inc]

you're a stupid head! and again you cant back it up!

[Horrorfan]

and you horrorfan are my reason for eye twitching and the reason that fox gets away with being so ****ty. cause you like any piece of crap laid out in front of you. I am soo freaking tired of "ratner" or "x3" fans. The movie sucked! PERIOD! Sucked... you know how after the movie comes out they release a new trailer for tv with the reviews about it in the trailer? Did you notice how X men the last stand had like one, and it was from some no body a fox owned newpaper. Some thing like "visually stunning" "the best action film of the year". Now go to supermans new trailer on tv where it is being praised as "the best movie of the year" "completely lives up to every exspectation" "absolutely a must see", all from TIME, ROLLINGSTONES, PEOPLE, ETC.....

Like i said before Singer= Sigificant. Like putting real emotion into an action movie so you care about the action. Not cause "WOW that was an hour and twenty minutes of look good cgi! that is all i need to be happy!" there are more holes in X3 then are excusable. To me, it ranks right there with ELEKTRA in story. Yes it was visually amazing, but yes it was retarded. Please dont come on here and praise X3 unless you back it up with something intelligent. I have yet to hear one well made arguement about X3 from its "fans". They are just like "ratner let the characters loose which singer was afraid to do", which is stupid cause singer let his characters loose. It was just inbetween scenes of significance to build up to the scene. (IE. Wolverine in the mansion!)

anyways.... i keep coming back to this thread only. and they keep not deleting my account like I ask them. I think i will become the troll of this thead. Just here to attack anyone that doesnt have something smart to say. Maybe they will delete me as a troll.

on that note. "HORRORFAN" your a ****ing retarded eye candy needing, popcorn supporting, piece of ****- traitor to "true" X-fans, giving your love, loyalty, and money to those that would destroy the beautiful stories you claim to respect.

lmao You just won the 'BIGGEST BITTER DOUCHEBAG '06' award, so well done on that :up:

That want was hillarious...and X3 is STILL THE BEST, BEYATCHH :P HAHAH

[Psylocke8]

For that thing that had Superman Returns " Visualy Stunning" stuff from pt_photo_inc i thought X3 had stuff like that in comercials. i personally thought X3 was an below okay movie. Ratner toattly screwed up the movie and so did fox because Ratner wanted to take more time to finish the movie but i think it was Rothman who said no we need it now which was stupid on his part. Also he wanted to do it before Superman Returns so that he could get everybody to see the movie as if he did it later it would get caught up in withsuperman returns. This is confusing to me but what's done is done and if there is an X4 heres to that we get Singer back. THat's my 2 cents for the day! lol

[pt_photo_inc]

lmao You just won the 'BIGGEST BITTER DOUCHEBAG '06' award, so well done on that :up:

That want was hillarious...and X3 is STILL THE BEST, BEYATCHH :P HAHAH

i know you are but what am i

[Fanticon]

thank god...08 sounds a lot more like it...oh and earlier I was just blowin off some steam.

[WalkingDead]

you're a stupid head! and again you cant back it up!
Why don't you just stop coming here and logging in if you don't want to be here? Just don't come back if you want to be deleted or not here. And I know you're trying to be deleted or blocked or banned or whatever...but...um, just try not coming back and logging. It's easy and simple to do.

Oh and, Bashing others just makes you look like a total jackass and doesn't help support anything you say/post here at all.

[Horrorfan]

i know you are but what am i
Very lame :p

[Super Flight]

i just hope this movie doesnt turn out like x-men 3 did....

*burts into tears*

[The Bat]

Fox won't learn from its mistakes because they profit from them. They profited from X3 despite their horrible mistakes, so they'll repeat them again and again and again until people stop seeing these movies.



Agreed!! Which is why I never saw X-Men 3 in the Theater...nor will I rent it on DVD!:down

[Horrorfan]

Agreed!! Which is why I never saw X-Men 3 in the Theater...nor will I rent it on DVD!:down
Kinda stupid to me not to see a movie because of other people's opinions, but that's just me, and it's not like it made a difference to the box office anyway :p

[ISHMAEL]

oh great... no script, no plot, no director, one actor, and a release date for 2007!

um they pushed it back to 2008 and theres a script since 04

[Spirit4ever]

I don't hate Fox, because there are times when they do release some pretty good films. But I do think they screwed up royally with X3. The book was better, and if they had construed the movie like the book, it would have made a significant difference in the quality of the movie. I still enjoyed it none the less, and X3 had it's moments. But when your favorite character is Rogue, you can't blame me for being a bit bitter towards the movie.

[The Bat]

Kinda stupid to me not to see a movie because of other people's opinions, but that's just me, and it's not like it made a difference to the box office anyway :p


It's not other People's Opinion's that's keeping Me away...it's everything I know about the Script.Let's face it...Comic Book Movie adaption's don't stick to continuity History...they can't, and make it work in a 2 Hr. Movie. But I can live with that...as long as They get the Essence of the Character's right! And, They behave like They do in the Comic's! Example: Jean WOULD NOT kill Cyclop's! The Story of Pheonix...is about the power of LOVE...Jean's love for Scott, is what brings Her back from the abyss...back to Her Humanity! Leaving that out of the Storyline...FOX(and Kinberg & Penn) totally lose's the Main point of "The Dark Pheonix Saga".

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well if only Fox said they didn't want Scott in the movie, he would have had a bigger role... but since they didn't want him at all in x3, what was the point the Phoenix saga since Kinberg/Penn screwed it up with Logan saving Jean instead of Scott saving Jean? Although Fox didn't want Jean/Phoenix to be in X3 either but Kinberg fought for her to be in it but still... Fox shouldn't have a say about whos in and whos not in the film. It should be up to the director and writers, not the studio but Fox f***ed it up. They think they're really smart...but they aren't. all they care about is Wolverine this...Wolverine that. They're so f***ing busy dicking around with Wolverine that they can't seem to care enough for the other X-Men. Fox, you do know that the meaning of X-Men relates to more than just Wolverine? Oh right...you probably don't care because your too busy f***ing around with Wolverine to bother to give the other X-Men their moment to shine and give them more screentime. Once again, its all about your money and Wolverine. You disgust me in terms of what you think the rest of the X-Men stand for.

...

[Boiiinng]

It's not other People's Opinion's that's keeping Me away...it's everything I know about the Script.Let's face it...Comic Book Movie adaption's don't stick to continuity History...they can't, and make it work in a 2 Hr. Movie. But I can live with that...as long as They get the Essence of the Character's right! And, They behave like They do in the Comic's! Example: Jean WOULD NOT kill Cyclop's! The Story of Pheonix...is about the power of LOVE...Jean's love for Scott, is what brings Her back from the abyss...back to Her Humanity! Leaving that out of the Storyline...FOX(and Kinberg & Penn) totally lose's the Main point of "The Dark Pheonix Saga".

As soon as they made Jean a split personality, the whole Cyclops love thing went away. Jean didn't kill Scott, the Pheonix did.

[Horrorfan]

It's not other People's Opinion's that's keeping Me away...it's everything I know about the Script.Let's face it...Comic Book Movie adaption's don't stick to continuity History...they can't, and make it work in a 2 Hr. Movie. But I can live with that...as long as They get the Essence of the Character's right! And, They behave like They do in the Comic's! Example: Jean WOULD NOT kill Cyclop's! The Story of Pheonix...is about the power of LOVE...Jean's love for Scott, is what brings Her back from the abyss...back to Her Humanity! Leaving that out of the Storyline...FOX(and Kinberg & Penn) totally lose's the Main point of "The Dark Pheonix Saga".


Let's get some things straight now.

First, Jean didn't kill cyclops. It was pheonix.

Second, Jean wouldnt kill a whole planet either, but in the comics, she did (as pheonix).


The story is still about the power of love. The essence is there, and that's what you said is important. But the difference is, it's wolverines love. Now I know that cyclops fans dont wanna hear this, but in three movies, he was a total non entity. He did nothing worth while, and building the third movie around him would be a mistake. But wolverine, not only is he a bankable star (and a better actor) than cyclops, but he also loves Jean. so is replacing the two REALLY that much of a bother to you? If so, fine....you're missing out.

I loved the movie personally, The ''essence'' of the story, and characters, is definitly there. The ''essence'' of the pheonix story, love, is still there The other movies didnt really bother too much about xavier and magneto too much, but here they do and its great.

all I can say is, if you like the x men, you owe it to your self to see ut ti at least make up your own mind, without any preconceptions. The essence is there, and if you care about that, then you should enjoy it.

But if you dont wanna enjoy it because a deadwood actor playing a (in the movies at least) worthless character isnt part of the main arc, its your loss.

It's up to you man, but the only way to truly judge it is to watch. I am a life long x men fan and I loved the hell out of it.

[xwolverine2]

theres no need to hate fox after a wolverine script like that!

[Boiiinng]

theres no need to hate fox after a wolverine script like that!

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. Fox probably hasn't touched the script yet and they probably have final cut, too.

[xwolverine2]

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched. Fox probably hasn't touched the script yet and they probably have final cut, too.
well arent you the optimist........:)


im saying they havent done anything to wolverine yet.... so theres no reason to "I HATE FOX"

[The Bat]

The story is still about the power of love. The essence is there, and that's what you said is important. But the difference is, it's wolverines love. Now I know that cyclops fans dont wanna hear this, but in three movies, he was a total non entity. He did nothing worth while, and building the third movie around him would be a mistake. But wolverine, not only is he a bankable star (and a better actor) than cyclops, but he also loves Jean. so is replacing the two REALLY that much of a bother to you? If so, fine....you're missing out.



Yes...IT IS! Cyclops is My favorite X-Man...and and I've been reading X-Men for 28 Year's! I'm way to hardcore of an X-Men Fan to remove Myself emotionally from the Character's & Story to let it go...I'm sorry...I just can't!:( If I'm missing out...so be it. Brian Singer gave US two good X-Men Movie's...and I feel, We were lucky to get that! So X-Men's loss...is SUPERMAN'S gain...it's His turn anyway, He's been gone for too long...and it's good to see Him back!

[Mistopurr83]

To hell with Fox. Watch the S3 teaser trailer.

Raimi is about to do it again! Give the fans what we want, a REAL comicbook movie. Not a half-hearted attempt or some ego driven version of our beloved characters.

Please God, let Raimi bring another Marvel comic to life in the near future....him or Jackson that is.

S3 in 07 is the real deal.

Right on thegameq!:up:

[Horrorfan]

Yes...IT IS! Cyclops is My favorite X-Man...and and I've been reading X-Men for 28 Year's! I'm way to hardcore of an X-Men Fan to remove Myself emotionally from the Character's & Story to let it go...I'm sorry...I just can't!:( If I'm missing out...so be it. Brian Singer gave US two good X-Men Movie's...and I feel, We were lucky to get that! So X-Men's loss...is SUPERMAN'S gain...it's His turn anyway, He's been gone for too long...and it's good to see Him back!

It's your loss.

I'm just glad X3 kicked Superman's ass at the box office :up:

I' would argue that you're not really an x men fan at all if you don't even see the movie, but that' just my opinion. Seeing it and hating it is different to not seeing it at all.

And I think the characters are all there. But then again, I think Cyclops is boring as hell in the comis too.

[The Bat]

It's your loss.

I'm just glad X3 kicked Superman's ass at the box office :up:


Only for now. SUPERMAN will have a longer run...just like BATMAN BEGINS did...It gained momentum from good review's, and good word of Mouth...something X-Men didn't do.

[Horrorfan]

Only for now. SUPERMAN will have a longer run...just like BATMAN BEGINS did...It gained momentum from good review's, and good word of Mouth...something X-Men didn't do.

Actually X Men 3 has already out grossed Batman Begins. And we will see if Superman manages to get 400 million worldwide, but I doubt it.

[The Bat]

To hell with Fox. Watch the S3 teaser trailer.

Raimi is about to do it again! Give the fans what we want, a REAL comicbook movie. Not a half-hearted attempt or some ego driven version of our beloved characters.

Please God, let Raimi bring another Marvel comic to life in the near future....him or Jackson that is.

S3 in 07 is the real deal.



I 2nd that!!! Thank God some of the Superhero Propertie's are in good Hand's: Batman, Superman, Spiderman! That's what happens when You give the right People in control...and let Em' run with it!

[Horrorfan]

I 2nd that!!! Thank God some of the Superhero Propertie's are in good Hand's: Batman, Superman, Spiderman! That's what happens when You give the right People in control...and let Em' run with it!
It's not like you have any valid comments on X3 since you haven't even seen it.But superman returns has had a disappointing box office so far, it's common knowledge.

[The Bat]

True I haven't seen X-Men 3...and NEVER will. But I have seen Batman Begins, Spidey 1 & 2, and Superman returns....and They GOT IT RIGHT! They stay true to the Character's(Jean wouldn't KILL Scott)...and that makes Me happy regardless on any Box Office Number's!

[Horrorfan]

True I haven't seen X-Men 3...and NEVER will. But I have seen Batman Begins, Spidey 1 & 2, and Superman returns....and They GOT IT RIGHT! They stay true to the Character's(Jean wouldn't KILL Scott)...and that makes Me happy regardless on any Box Office Number's!

Are you sure you have ever read an X Men comic, let alone the pheonix saga?

Pheonix is NOT Jean Grey, and Jean Grey is not Pheonix.


So maybe you should have read the books more, if you indeed ever read them at all, which I doubt.

[Mike059jig]

Pheonix did kill scott but it was jean that kept Cyclops alive in the pheonix saga....X3 did a great job of interpreting the pheonix story into a tragic love story between logan and jean :rolleyes: ..and they got that right!!....pheonix saga isn't tragic love between scott and jean its about Logan and Jean Dammit:mad: ....they have to kill half the equation of the pheonix saga(Cyclops) and have wolverine to make it look better:( ...Cyclops can't hold jeans body like in the comics becasue wolverine is more popular and loves jean and thats why he holds her and screams cause he lost the women he loved...One of X-men greatest story line Dark Pheonix saga is Translated Brilliantly on big screen:D....but anyway...I dislike what fox did to X3 cause the movie sucked :down....but they do other things right..I like Fox 5..the simpson and they show nascar...and X-men 1 & 2

[The Bat]

Are you sure you have ever read an X Men comic, let alone the pheonix saga?

Pheonix is NOT Jean Grey, and Jean Grey is not Pheonix.


So maybe you should have read the books more, if you indeed ever read them at all, which I doubt.



I'm well aware of The Pheonix Copying Jean, and placing Her in the healing Pod at the Bottom of the Ocean. But it copied Her so well...that in affect...Jean save the Comos by remote control. The Pheonix came to believe it was Jean...and rather than harm Scott...comitted Suicide!

[Horrorfan]

Well I loved X3, and it pwned the crap out of ''superbomb'' at the box office :D

The haters can cry about it all you like, but you can't argue with box office sucess ;):up:

[The Bat]

Well I loved X3, and it pwned the crap out of ''superbomb'' at the box office :D

The haters can cry about it all you like, but you can't argue with box office sucess ;):up:



All I can do...is not reward Crappy Comic Book Movie's with My Money.

[Horrorfan]

All I can do...is not reward Crappy Comic Book Movie's with My Money.
Well Fox and X Men obviously don't need you ;)

[The Bat]

You have to get the last Word in,don't Horrorfan...it's an Ego thing with You, huh?

[Sub-Zero]

I don't like Wolverine so much so if the movie ends up sucking I won't even see it.

what do you mean by sucking? like x3? which sucked! it was such a load of crap. i can't believe it was the biggest movie of the year! anyway if jackman's track record is any indication, then this will do great in the box office( and after reading the script review it looks promising). the only good movies he's in are when he plays wolverine. ALL of the others suck.

[Mdizzle]

^ it was the biggest movie of the year based on the hype, man, people loved X2 and assumed everything could capitulate in X3 (sadly mistaken). Who knows what the wolvie spin-off will be like...maybe people will see X3, leave disgusted, and then lose faith and assume not to see Wolverine the Movie? nah, i think ppl will see just cuz...I know I will either way.

[Dark Knight]

This talk of Hugh wanting to break with Fox is folks projecting their own feelings about the studio onto him.

Hugh has a strong relationship with Fox. They've pretty much handed him control of this project. He's shepherded the screenplay, and he has the power to select a director (with the studio's input, of course).

Yes, Fox has screwed up on Marvel films in the past, but in this case we have a film that already has a script pretty much locked up, and a producer-star who knows what he wants and knows exactly how to play the part. There's really no reason for foot-stomping yet. Let's at least wait for the announcement of a director and release date before breaking out the pitchforks, shall we?



I'm glad to hear that....as long as Avi Arad takes a backseat on the production and choosing a director.....then the film has a chance to be great.


The key is getting a good director not a another Avi hack and puppet.

[Dark Knight]

Actually X Men 3 has already out grossed Batman Begins. And we will see if Superman manages to get 400 million worldwide, but I doubt it.


Outgrossed...means nothing. BB was a far better film!

The only reason it outgrossed BB was because X MEN was more for the kiddies...

[TNC9852002]

Threads like these is what's keeping me away from these forums..

-TNC

[Horrorfan]

Outgrossed...means nothing. BB was a far better film!

The only reason it outgrossed BB was because X MEN was more for the kiddies...


X3 was better and grossed WAY more. Deal with it B-itches :up: