View Full Version : So MANY sequel set-ups!
Catman
06-28-2006, 02:41 AM
WOW! It ain't over yet, folks! Man. . .they were really thinking of the sequel when they made this. First, Superman releases New Krypton into space. What the hell is gonna happen with that? Then, Lex and Kitty are stranded in that island. Oh, by the way, what is Superman gonna do without the crystals?!?! And, finally, Superman discovers that he's the father. What's gonna happen with that?
What else am I missing?
Thunder Emperor
06-28-2006, 02:44 AM
those are the worst sequel set-ups especially, the i am now superdad story.
Wrong! Theres alot of potential there and this movie proved that Singer can handle this is a great way. Very few other directors for comicbook film could have pulled this story off.
So theres definately hope.
The crystals will be tied to the next villian, I have a feeling. The knowlegde of Krypton will live on in another.....*cough* Brainiac
The next logical choice is Brainiac. Seems the most likely.
Catman
06-28-2006, 02:51 AM
Well, maybe SuperDad is a debate. . .but the others are pretty cool. What's gonna happen with New Krypton in space and what is Lex gonna do next. How does he even escape that island?
Phildizzle
06-28-2006, 02:57 AM
It has some to build off of. Of course Lois didnt leave Richard but you know she is still in love with Superman. Richard knows this too. I wonder what angle they will go with the eventual sequel.
BatFitz
06-28-2006, 03:25 AM
I don't know about you guys but I thought the scene where Superman repeats his father's speech to Jason was very touching...
Catman
06-28-2006, 11:58 AM
I agree! I thought it was very touching as well and people in the audience had to ruin the moment by starting to make child-support jokes.
dabilee01
06-28-2006, 12:01 PM
I agree! I thought it was very touching as well and people in the audience had to ruin the moment by starting to make child-support jokes.
*sigh*...unfortunately this is the world we live in.
although i did laugh after the movie when my gf said "superman has some baby mama drama!". =)
Catman
06-28-2006, 12:07 PM
*sigh*...unfortunately this is the world we live in.
although i did laugh after the movie when my gf said "superman has some baby mama drama!". =)
Yeah, I laughed after I left the theater, but I didn't appreciate the jokes DURING the movie.
But, anyway, back to sequel set-ups. I just thought of another one. Remember when Jimmy took a picture of Clark Kent? I wonder if that's gonna lead to something.
gaheris
06-28-2006, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I laughed after I left the theater, but I didn't appreciate the jokes DURING the movie.
But, anyway, back to sequel set-ups. I just thought of another one. Remember when Jimmy took a picture of Clark Kent? I wonder if that's gonna lead to something.
I say it should if you consider that since Superman doesn't hide his face at all I bet that some top of the line facial recognition software would have a high probability of identifying Superman if the also use all the pictures in news outlets and other sources since it seems almost no one in the world can seem to put two and two together. That has always been my biggest grip not about the movie but about the Superman mythos. It drives me nuts because it should be so obvious since Lois intereacts with both Clark and Superman so much. That does not bode well for her investigative reporting skills at all.
RobinluvsBabs
06-28-2006, 12:17 PM
Wrong! Theres alot of potential there and this movie proved that Singer can handle this is a great way. Very few other directors for comicbook film could have pulled this story off.
So theres definately hope.
The crystals will be tied to the next villian, I have a feeling. The knowlegde of Krypton will live on in another.....*cough* Brainiac
The next logical choice is Brainiac. Seems the most likely.Brainiac would actually be only Logical next step, because what the hell Happenned to the Crystals?? and how is the Fortress of solitude going to Function now??
Whack Arnolds
06-28-2006, 12:22 PM
those are the worst sequel set-ups especially, the i am now superdad story.Yup. Superman is busy trying to save the world, but "Oh My God"...realizes he has take his son to his choir rehersal on time. Shocking. :eek:
Jakomus
06-28-2006, 02:35 PM
Yup. Superman is busy trying to save the world, but "Oh My God"...realizes he has take his son to his choir rehersal on time. Shocking. :eek:Your trolling lacks logic or tact.
Agentsands77
06-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Superdad is an awful set-up. That's just one storyline that will really hurt the sequels they make, and that's why I think the whole kid thing is a mistake.
Octoberist
06-28-2006, 03:00 PM
With all of these setups, none of them are really comic book related. no Joker card, if you will.
I have a gut feeling that the sequel won't have just Luthor, but I'm worried on the villian selection. I will tear my hair out if it's Zod. If that's the case, Superman Returns is to Superman the Movie, while SR 2 is to Superman 2.
Singer needs to step up and concentrate on making his own franchise, and honestly, Zod isn't the way to go. Metello...Brainaic, Bizarro, whatever would do, esp when you have to compete against (if they're good) Spider-Man 3 and Batman Begins 2's baddies.
Andy C.
06-28-2006, 03:14 PM
God, I would love to see Bizarro in the next one.
Octoberist
06-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Bizarro could be cool if done right. Hell even a goofy one would be okay.
Anybody but Zod. Here me Singer!
Whack Arnolds
06-28-2006, 03:17 PM
I can't wait to see Superman have to pay child support. It's gonna be awesome.
With all of these setups, none of them are really comic book related. no Joker card, if you will.
I have a gut feeling that the sequel won't have just Luthor, but I'm worried on the villian selection. I will tear my hair out if it's Zod.
Mike D and Dan Harris CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARENT USING ZOD
They even insulted him in that interview, that was amusing :D
The villian will be tied to the remaining FOS crystals of Kryptonian knowlegde, its pretty obvious.
Octoberist
06-28-2006, 03:20 PM
I agree that Singer created a plotline where it could lead to a sequel cliche with the kid (My daddy is going to kick your INSERT EXPLOSION). He's not stupid, however.
Octoberist
06-28-2006, 03:21 PM
Mike D and Dan Harris CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARENT USING ZOD
They even insulted him in that interview, that was amusing :D
The villian will be tied to the remaining FOS crystals of Kryptonian knowlegde, its pretty obvious.
Is there a Link? That's pretty interesting................................... . .
aroundthefur33
06-28-2006, 03:41 PM
brainiac is the correct choice i would like to see a couple of movies down the line doomsday
Well, maybe SuperDad is a debate. . .but the others are pretty cool. What's gonna happen with New Krypton in space and what is Lex gonna do next. How does he even escape that island?
Superman in any incarnation, but especially in SR, would find Lex pretty quickly.
thechubbysaint
06-28-2006, 04:00 PM
One can only hope that Singer won't be around for it.
Lightning54SC
06-28-2006, 04:21 PM
cant use doomsday... after watching supes get handed to by a few humans i d hate to see what doomsday would do
Poetic Chaos
06-28-2006, 05:05 PM
I thought I saw the Brainiac symbol on one of the mics being held to Lois at the hospital.
Dark Knight
06-28-2006, 05:26 PM
I liked the set ups as well.
Supes throwing New Krypton into space with the Kryptonian crystals sure is a set up for Braniac to come into play! FINALLY!
I have a feeling Lex may have a hand in developing Metallo as well?
The dilemma is Richard. Will he be killed off in the sequel....or he become jealous and become a villian? Perhaps Metallo??? Or would they stick to Corben being Metallo.
The set up that is clear is certianly the one involving new Krypton in space and Braniac coming into play.....
Dark Knight
06-28-2006, 05:28 PM
Mike D and Dan Harris CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARENT USING ZOD
They even insulted him in that interview, that was amusing :D
The villian will be tied to the remaining FOS crystals of Kryptonian knowlegde, its pretty obvious.
Braniac will come into play....he has to....
Super78
06-28-2006, 05:29 PM
I don't think the "superkid" will be addressed at all for the sequel, given the response from fans over it.
I think Superkid should be avoided all-together -- they can address it that he doesn't have any powers and is not Superman's kid, something like that.
The sequel should have General Zod, escaped from prison, who somehow manages to gain 'super powers' again -- and he and Lex team up to finally bring down Superman.
Dark Knight
06-28-2006, 05:48 PM
I don't think the "superkid" will be addressed at all for the sequel, given the response from fans over it.
I think Superkid should be avoided all-together -- they can address it that he doesn't have any powers and is not Superman's kid, something like that.
The sequel should have General Zod, escaped from prison, who somehow manages to gain 'super powers' again -- and he and Lex team up to finally bring down Superman.
The kid will probably have the same amount of screentime in the sequel as he had in this film. They will probably show a scene or two where he uses his powers just like in this film....the main focus on the sequel will most likely be Supes against Braniac....Lex might try and kidnap the kid or something and try to use his DNA to create a clone or something like that. Just a guess of course.....I don't expect to see the kid using his powers all over the place thats for sure.....that would be a mistake.
Catman
06-28-2006, 06:55 PM
The dilemma is Richard. Will he be killed off in the sequel....or he become jealous and become a villian? Perhaps Metallo??? Or would they stick to Corben being Metallo.
Richard will not become a villain. Singer is avoiding that cliche!
why would Brainiac be a setup for the sequel, he has nothing to do with krypton as i beleive? Only in the STAS, and smallville.
thechubbysaint
06-28-2006, 09:19 PM
I think he was related to krypton in the comic books too.
thechubbysaint
06-28-2006, 09:21 PM
The crystals will probably merge with Kal Penn's character's carcass for brainaic. He seemed like a popular choice for just a henchmen.
Nivek
06-28-2006, 09:21 PM
those are the worst sequel set-ups especially, the i am now superdad story.
Coming to a Superman comic near you, very soon. The reguler people really liked Jason. And personally I liked how they did it.
So bleh, you dont like it. A hell of alot of people did. if you see it, just wait outside to hear the reactions. It's very telling. Kid's dug it.
NotFadeAway
06-28-2006, 09:31 PM
Watch all this Braniac talk turn into Zod being released from the Phantom Zone ( vague history ) and discovering the crystals in space!!!
Wouldn't shock me........
I think he was related to krypton in the comic books too.
no he was not he was an exiled alien scientist, from another planet.
NotFadeAway
06-28-2006, 09:35 PM
If it was up to me, Jason would die of natural causes leading into the sequel, so then we can do away with all the SuperJason talk and focus on more important stuff.
In Superman's sorrow over his son's death, Darkseid begins his invasion of Earth, forcing the Man of Steel to come to his senses and save the world. Throw Darkseid, Apokolips, New Geneisis, Mongul and everyone else in there.
Think of it like this.......
Superman Returns = Alien
Superman Returns 2 = Aliens
Time to make a kick ass true blue movie!!
Agentsands77
06-28-2006, 09:50 PM
I don't think the "superkid" will be addressed at all for the sequel, given the response from fans over it.
Oh you know it will. It has to - it's too prominent to ignore.
I think Superkid should be avoided all-together -- they can address it that he doesn't have any powers and is not Superman's kid, something like that.
No they can't, since they showed he had powers and made him being Superman's kid such a big deal. Otherwise it's just a total betrayal of what went on in SUPERMAN RETURNS.
I wish it hadn't happened, but now the superkid is a ball and chain tied to the future of the Superman franchise.
Agentsands77
06-28-2006, 09:51 PM
If it was up to me, Jason would die of natural causes leading into the sequel, so then we can do away with all the SuperJason talk and focus on more important stuff.
I'd like that, myself (well, that the kid dies - not necessarily the natural causes part of it). It would give Superman something to really grieve over. It would certainly be a dark moment for Superman, though...
vader519
06-28-2006, 09:51 PM
cant use doomsday... after watching supes get handed to by a few humans i d hate to see what doomsday would do
But you are forgetting that whole landmass was created with krytonite as well. So it made Superman weak, and he could not defend himself.
PSU442
06-28-2006, 10:22 PM
does anybody else thing that this ending between clark/supes and lois leaves the door open for clark/supes to have a substantial relationship with LANA in a sequel:confused: :)
singer would never sue Lana, and the reasons are very obvious. Superman loves lois, and from what singer sure remebers from the 1978 superman Moive, Lana and Clark were nothing more then friendly classmates[even though clark liked her, and she might of liked him] in highschool in the movieverse.
Immortalfire
06-28-2006, 10:42 PM
WOW! It ain't over yet, folks! Man. . .they were really thinking of the sequel when they made this. First, Superman releases New Krypton into space. What the hell is gonna happen with that? Then, Lex and Kitty are stranded in that island. Oh, by the way, what is Superman gonna do without the crystals?!?! And, finally, Superman discovers that he's the father. What's gonna happen with that?
Those are the worst "sequel set-ups", ever :confused:
Superman79
06-28-2006, 10:49 PM
I'd like that, myself (well, that the kid dies - not necessarily the natural causes part of it). It would give Superman something to really grieve over. It would certainly be a dark moment for Superman, though...
The kids' death would be most compelling and simple...either natural causes or due to villiany...
the other option is always having the kid turn to "the dark side" and fight his own father...it was something Peters mentioned in Look up in the Sky...
TIMMAH
06-28-2006, 11:08 PM
since they went with the superman = jesus formula, they should have doomesday in the sequel kill supes and then Reeves erum.... Routh can come back to life 3 days later, say "it is finished" and kick doomesdays ass with the help of junior and his new crystal inhaler.
Lightning54SC
06-28-2006, 11:12 PM
Watch all this Braniac talk turn into Zod being released from the Phantom Zone ( vague history ) and discovering the crystals in space!!!
Wouldn't shock me........
with kryptonite growning more and more i dont see zod finding them.... he'd die....
BRAINIAC
Lightning54SC
06-28-2006, 11:16 PM
but before we jump on this bandwagon the movie has to make money which it isnt doing so well.... i think people are bummed on Da Vinci code and X3
Immortalfire
06-28-2006, 11:18 PM
since they went with the superman = jesus formula, they should have doomesday in the sequel kill supes and then Reeves erum.... Routh can come back to life 3 days later, say "it is finished" and kick doomesdays ass with the help of junior and his new crystal inhaler. LMAO
NotFadeAway
06-28-2006, 11:47 PM
singer would never sue Lana, and the reasons are very obvious. Superman loves lois, and from what singer sure remebers from the 1978 superman Moive, Lana and Clark were nothing more then friendly classmates[even though clark liked her, and she might of liked him] in highschool in the movieverse.
LMFAO!!!
GreenKToo
06-28-2006, 11:52 PM
I'm sure S.R. will make a ton of money,people actually clapped at times at the viewing I saw tonite.I even heard a couple of folks saying that they wanted to see it again.
terry78
06-28-2006, 11:57 PM
I agree with not using Zod again. If they went that route, I would honestly say they're just remaking the earlier ones. Granted, he doesn't have the best villains, but a good director and writer can make them work in live action.
The Overlord
06-29-2006, 01:17 AM
The kids' death would be most compelling and simple...either natural causes or due to villiany...
the other option is always having the kid turn to "the dark side" and fight his own father...it was something Peters mentioned in Look up in the Sky...
Forget that dying of natural causes or growing up and becomming evil. Brainiac should zap that kid, I didn't like that kid. Imagine how pissed Superman would be at Brainiac after his son is murdered, that would be clash for the ages.
Lord Blackbolt
06-29-2006, 02:18 AM
hmm....I like this idea of the kid turning evil... He could become the Eradicator
NotFadeAway
06-29-2006, 02:38 PM
Bryan Singer : Who is Lana Lang again? That red headed girl from the high school scene in Superman : The Movie.
Superman79
06-29-2006, 02:43 PM
Forget that dying of natural causes or growing up and becomming evil. Brainiac should zap that kid, I didn't like that kid. Imagine how pissed Superman would be at Brainiac after his son is murdered, that would be clash for the ages.
Just so long as SR2 does not end up like Legend of Zorro or Mummy Returns, with the kid as a spunky sidekick...I would be forced to burn the theatre down :(
GoldGoblin
07-01-2006, 05:26 AM
Let's have a prequel and a sequel.
BULLITT
07-01-2006, 12:57 PM
As of July 1st, sequels, let alone one, is by no means a sure thing.
$48 million domestically
Kal-El 8
07-01-2006, 03:43 PM
For the sequel i would like to see
Lois & Clark in a romantic relationship, I would like to see Lois take notice to Clark .
For Clark & Jason to get to know each other,
For Lex Luthor to cause more trouble for SUPERMAN
Bring Brainiac
More Superman & Lois
sheltz32tt
07-01-2006, 10:38 PM
What about Braniac finds the crystals and relizes there could be kryptonian life left. He wants to track down the last of the kryptonians (not knowing there is 2) He hires the universes greatest bounty hunter Lobo. They are tracked to earth, and lobo heads to motropolis looking for supes. Could attack when supes is disguised as clark or supes whatever would be better. They have a crazy fight Lobo taking good measures to destroy everything in his path buildings cars (civilians) While the fight persues Braniac Learns about a hybrid kryptonian. Being the first of its kind he wants this hybrid to do research on. He goes after the hybrid kryptonian himself. Supes kicks the crap out of lobo and now has to go after the Braniac to get back the hybrid, without letting his true emotions surface and letting the whole world to see why he cares so much.
Superman already did Zod! :D
hey maybe those astronauts in that space shuttle that Superman saved could land on New Krypton. and somehow they become infected or discover something weird on it. and maybe they become supervillians as a result. like a bunch of Bizarros or something.
and maybe Jason can die, becuz that seems like a pain in the ass to keep having to deal with him and his super powers in future sequels.
I think this will be a set up to superboy in another superman movie i believe it will be in superman 3 where jason is a preteen say 13.
He still doesnt know supes his dad ;he is a little rough around the edges and his powers are getting out of hand meaning the yellow sun is beginning to change his molecules to more of kryptonian(his kryptonian dna could be far superior to humen dna but need a catalyst to begin a mutation to more of his father gene like say hair loss but this is more of loss of humen dna shedding slowly as years go by and he asorbs more sun. just a theory.)
The cat will be out of the bag but some where maybe in new superman 2 richard learns this which slowly changes they relationship but rich being a good man stays thinking he can make lois love him and continues to father richard .
Superman 3 richard feeling hurt about jason not being his begins to become drawn off from lois and jason causing a rift between him and jason.
Jason progresses in his kryptonian trait and lois tells jason the truth and allows supe a chance to raise his powerful son meaning "hey it your turn to raise him now" but this causes jason alot of pain knowing richard aint his dad causing him to be rebellious.
Super man and jason relationship is not going so well they are different as nite as day supe is still a country guy at heart but the young jason is very city causing some different idealogy on life . This also opens up jason feelings on being superman son and how he feels supe never wanted him as a son and feels unworthy but tries anyways to prove to supe he can carry the family name going behind his dad back and goes by the name superboy begins fighting crime but of course causing rookie mistakes along the way pissing supes off because his kid should be in school and learning somthing .
Super man reason for not getting in jason life comes out in a father and son discussion after a heated argument he explains how being who he is can be so rough and he couldnt live with his enemies knowing about him and hurting lois new life ;this helps give a preteen jason some closure and understanding to his family.
again just an idea for the subplots in the new super man 2 and 3 movies if they come out .
NotFadeAway
07-02-2006, 04:11 AM
There will more than likely not be a sequel to this film, if so it needs to take a different apporach.....
ervann
07-02-2006, 11:29 AM
Why is Brainiac more popular as a villian than Darkseid? I always thought the latter offers a story of greater epic scope, action and something that can really wake audiences up to what a Super-villian is.
Maybe fitting for the 3rd movie to wrap the trilogy up...
Quigon007
07-02-2006, 02:18 PM
Brainiac would actually be only Logical next step, because what the hell Happenned to the Crystals?? and how is the Fortress of solitude going to Function now??
Well if superman finds the green crystal that he showed louis in the second superman movie, that could re-build the fortress of solitude all on it's own. I mean it came with his ship and lead superman there for the crystal to build the place.
combocaz
07-02-2006, 02:49 PM
kill the kid, superman does'nt need a son.
PunisherPoster
07-02-2006, 03:11 PM
Why can't Superman just retrieve the crystals using a radiation suit?
Dr.HugoStrange
07-03-2006, 07:10 PM
They got supes dna so maybe bizarro, and new krypton could be a sort of bizarro world
Dr.HugoStrange
07-03-2006, 07:10 PM
They got supes dna so maybe bizarro, and new krypton could be a sort of bizarro world
thechubbysaint
07-04-2006, 02:09 AM
Where are the crystals? The ocean (did that part of New Krypton fall off with the 'dramatic helicopter escape') or in space?
Doomed_hero
07-04-2006, 02:20 AM
I say use the Braniac story from the TAS. It is drama filled and much more intresting then comic Braniac. Then I don't know, have Lex get some of Supes or his kids DNA, and create Bizzaro. He could work if done right.
reallyoldspideyfan
07-07-2006, 10:38 AM
Hello,
First, I saw it for the second time last night and, although us comic fans are on the fence about the kid and the movie, clearly the females in the crowd and the majority of "average movie go-ers" LOVED this movie. Last night, just in my line of sight, I saw 10 girls crying. Watching Superman getting beaten was hard to watch...watching him fall was hard and, most of them, cried when the kid kissed him. Personally, I loved the movie except for the fact that it was too close to the original.
Anyway, I usually ask my fiance (a non-comic fan) what she thinks about the movie and she agreed that LOIS and RICHARD both know it is SUPERMAN's kid from the beginning. When she said "how could you leave US like that", she was not referring to the world, she was referring to her and the kid. She obviously was shocked when she saw the kid throw the piano but that was because she was unsure about him getting powers...they made reference to him being "fragile" and bad in gym. As for RICHARD, he knows (I mean, how could he not) that the kid is not his and I think he really loves Lois and just wanted to be there for her and the child. He is just a nice guy. He knows that she loves Superman and he probably has no chance against him but he just wants to try.
As for a sequel, we know a couple things:
1 - Superman has lost his K. heritage and cannot use the fortress due to the crystals being in space.
2 - There is A TON of Kryponite at the bottom of the Ocean. Tons of it fell off New K.
3 - Lex cannot be the Lex we want (ie: head of a major corporation with tons of money) because both SUPERMAN and LOIS can testify that he made NK and almost whiped out the US.
4 - It appears that SUPERMAN would want the world to think that the kid is RICHARD's because he would be a target. I also get the impression from the movie that Clark respects Richard. Lex clearly knows and that will come into play.
Just my thoughts,
DN
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