your thoughts? Superman Vs. Batman [Archive]

Kane

06-28-2006, 03:23 PM

Cinemaman

06-28-2006, 03:24 PM

For me, it isn't good.

JStorm

06-28-2006, 03:24 PM

Isn't Superman suppose to be taller than Batman?

And how is that a good point? I'm not knocking it, just explain more.

My point as to why it wouldn't work, budget. Of course, one can argue that a cast budget has been thrown out if the cast was willing to see the art of the movie rathe than the size of their pay check. But, I still stand by the budget. Imagine asking all the big guns of both movie to reprise their roles. That's a lot of $$$.

Kane

06-28-2006, 03:25 PM

I think whether the fans like this concept or not, a teamup film with Bale and Routh will happen in the future.

There seems to be alot of support for it and with the president of DC comics behind it, thats a good sign.

Bad Superman

06-28-2006, 03:26 PM

It should be interesting since the "seed for rivalry" has been "planted". Remember Bale's comment at the MTV Movie Awards?

Kane

06-28-2006, 03:27 PM

Imagine asking all the big guns of both movie to reprise their roles. That's a lot of $$$.

Brandon Routh, Christian Bale, Micheal Caine, Kate Bosworth, (whoever is playing Joker) and Kevin Spacey.

Thats really not so bad. The BB cast alone had way more big guns.

Olsen and Perry could also return but they arent that big of names either.

Kane

06-28-2006, 03:29 PM

It should be interesting since the "seed for rivalry" has been "planted". Remember Bale's comment at the MTV Movie Awards?

Haha. He was right though, but he'll feel a bit defeated when SR does better financially overall than BB.

They would make a great team anyways. Routh has the heart, Bale has the badassness......just like the real Superman and Batman.

JStorm

06-28-2006, 03:30 PM

Brandon Routh, Christian Bale, Micheal Caine, Kate Bosworth, (whoever is playing Joker) and Kevin Spacey.

Thats really not so bad. The BB cast alone had way more big guns.

Olsen and Perry could also return but they arent that big of names either.

Yeah, I see your point. But, maybe I should have said, imagine trying to make a "Hush" or "Long Halloween" or "Dark Victory". I think it would be too much.

I'm not against it. Just making a point along with the thread.

Furthermore, I made my point before the DC Pres statement was posted. That is fantastic that he feels that way!!! :up:

L3G3NDK1LLER

06-28-2006, 03:35 PM

i liked how they mentioned Gotham too in SR

aroundthefur33

06-28-2006, 03:36 PM

they should do a worlds finest type of thing after the second batman movie, because they would have to intoduce joker

Brandanday

06-28-2006, 03:39 PM

batman is only 6'1" and superman is around 6'5"

xwolverine2

06-28-2006, 03:43 PM

HELL NO!.... batman is doing fine AND WE HAVE WAITED TOO LONG FOR IT!..

dont ruin batman!!....

Aren

06-28-2006, 03:55 PM

Nah, I think that would suck if they ever make it

aroundthefur33

06-28-2006, 03:58 PM

batman is only 6'1" and superman is around 6'5"
superman is 6'4"

griffolyon12

06-28-2006, 07:53 PM

No,they are just too different.If they made it the film would just be bad.

batman strikes

06-28-2006, 08:01 PM

Right aroundthefur33 Superman is 6'4 and Batman is 6'2.

Obi Wan Kenobi

06-28-2006, 08:16 PM

Brandon Routh, Christian Bale, Micheal Caine, Kate Bosworth, (whoever is playing Joker) and Kevin Spacey.

Thats really not so bad. The BB cast alone had way more big guns.

Olsen and Perry could also return but they arent that big of names either.

They should bring Jack Nicholson back as the Joker.

I think they will eventually meet because Supes did some heroic work in "Gotham City" in SR. I think they pronounced "Gotham" twice in the film because people sitting around me were a buzz about hearing "Gotham city". They were whispering did you hear that, they said "Gotham".

Why else would that be in SR?

trustyside-kick

06-28-2006, 08:25 PM

While it would be somewhat interesting at the same time it would be stupid.

Mentok

06-28-2006, 08:26 PM

I doubt the current film versions of Superman and Batman would fit together very well.

Kane

06-28-2006, 08:28 PM

I doubt the current film versions of Superman and Batman would fit together very well.

I disagree.

Theyre both very realistic adaptions of the characters in a realworld environment...moreso than any before.

Theres also the fact that Batman Began while Superman was gone....while the world was in darkness, a perfect time for the birth of Batman.

Now that Batman has begun and Superman has returned, theres hope for the world and it could lead to more heroes deciding to step up and appear.

Its a perfect setup.

Gamma Ray

06-28-2006, 08:30 PM

No. More Batman and more Superman, but no Batman and/vs Superman.

Kane

06-28-2006, 08:41 PM

Oh well. It is likely to happen....whether you guys like the concept or not. I cant wait.

Obi Wan Kenobi

06-28-2006, 08:42 PM

No. More Batman and more Superman, but no Batman and/vs Superman.

I read a plot somewhere that had Luthor & the Joker killing Katie Holmes & somehow they make it look like Superman did it & the Bat goes nuts on him.

While they're fighting the Joker & Luthor devise some plan to take over the world with the help of Brainiac & the Black Mask. Eventually Batman & Superman find out who's responsible for her death & Superman not only has to save the world but he's got to save Batman from himself because he wants to "kill" Joker & Luthor.

Secret_Riddle

06-28-2006, 08:43 PM

they are 2 very different franchises that i dont think would work if missed. the tones of the characters are different also batman is realistic while superman is a little more fantastical. they both work so dont f*#k with it.

SpandexFan

06-28-2006, 08:48 PM

Just watch Aliens Vs. Predator and you'll never want Hollywood to ever gets a grubby hands on another "versus flick" ever again. It works great in theory but it's just asking for a gimmick treatment. Think Jon Peters.

Eros

06-28-2006, 09:23 PM

No it would not work, superman can basically do everything hes "superman". Batman would simply slows supes down in the movie world. Superman needing the help of a human in a Bat suit is utterly ridicolous to even attempt to try in the big screen. Christain bale and Nolan are trying not to go down the same root as the 90s bat flicks, and haveing a improbable movie like Batman Vs. Superman is terrible. I repeat what could Batman possible due to even try and help, or even hurt superman that would not be dumb on screen? Superman and Batman should never ever meet, two different worlds. Critics would eat the concept and movie alive, and superhero movies would once again be looked on as jokes[if they aren't already].

Dr.HugoStrange

06-29-2006, 05:52 PM

A worlds finest flick would interesting following the sequels of bb and sr However, the actors' height issues shouldn't be a problem, in the comics bats is 6'2 and sups is 6'3, Bale is at least 5'11 and Routh is 6'4. I'm once in the costume with the cowl and pointy ears, Bale can make up the difference

ChrisBaleBatman

06-29-2006, 05:55 PM

I dont think it is gonna happen for one reason. I saw the MTV awards and it looks like Routh is a lot taller than Bale

For what it's worth......that's how it is in the comics.

batman is only 6'1" and superman is around 6'5"

Bats is 6'2, Superman is 6'4......some say 6'5. I think DC has it official that he's 6'4 or 6'3 though, Have to check.

A worlds finest flick would interesting following the sequels of bb and sr However, the actors' height issues shouldn't be a problem, in the comics bats is 6'2 and sups is 6'3, Bale is at least 5'11 and Routh is 6'4. I'm once in the costume with the cowl and pointy ears, Bale can make up the difference

Atleast 5'11????

Nah, there's pics in the Batman Begins section that proves he's ATLEAST 6'1.

Plus, if you look at the pics from MTV......6'2 and 6'4 makes sense between the difference it appeared between Bale and Routh.

halfapple

06-29-2006, 06:04 PM

As a team - they are more balanced.

ChrisBaleBatman

06-29-2006, 06:09 PM

But......they would have to fight at first.

Don't want a World's Finest film though....I'd orefer they get they're own films and get focused on for 2 hours.

Robin91939

06-29-2006, 06:13 PM

BATMAN BEGINS (2005)
SUPERMAN RETURNS (2006)
BATMAN RISES (2008)
SUPERMAN (2009)
BATMAN BECOMES (2010)
SUPERMAN: Man OF Steel (2011)
WORLD'S FINEST (2013)

-R

Steelsheen

06-29-2006, 06:22 PM

It should be interesting since the "seed for rivalry" has been "planted". Remember Bale's comment at the MTV Movie Awards?
LOL yeah, i've been thinking on what's a good come back on Bale's "Sorry Superman but Batman is the badass" comment.

how about:

Routh: You said 'Batman is the badass', but can he take a bullet in the eye?
Bale:.......
Routh: 'Nuff said.

;)

but yeah i'd love a World's Finest movie :up:. the MTV pictures show that Bale and Routh's got a good onscreen buddy chemistry together.

ChrisBaleBatman

06-29-2006, 06:23 PM

C'mon.......Batman is the badass. Superman is the boyscout.....that's the way it's always been. Bale was stating the facts.

Plus, the rivarly......it's always been there. It always will be. It's why they've ended up fighting as many times as they have already.

I mean.....smashing a guys skull against a bathroom mirror WHILE he's taking a piss......that's just Badass.

trustyside-kick

06-29-2006, 11:32 PM

I mean.....smashing a guys skull against a bathroom mirror WHILE he's taking a piss......that's just Badass.

Even the guy that is having that being done to him would say that. :up:

:P

Speedball

06-29-2006, 11:53 PM

I voted no.
Why would Superman fight Batman?
It should be called Superman/Batman, then i would have said yes.

trustyside-kick

06-30-2006, 12:11 AM

I voted no.
Why would Superman fight Batman?
It should be called Superman/Batman, then i would have said yes.

Fan of the comic series? Some of the arcs in that were cool but parts of some were dumb.

Speedball

06-30-2006, 12:15 AM

Fan of the comic series? Some of the arcs in that were cool but parts of some were dumb.
I'm not really talking about the comics.
I got them at first, but when Darkseid returned, I dropped it fast.
I'm just talking about the title of the Team-up movie.
If you call it Superman versus Batman, then they don't fight, many people will be pissed.
If it's called Superman/Batman, then there wouldn't be any confusion.

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 12:16 AM

Even the guy that is having that being done to him would say that. :up:

:P

I mean, seriously.....that's something someone like Clint Eastwood would do.

Superman cannot do that. He can be cool, but badass isn't his thing.

I voted no.
Why would Superman fight Batman?
It should be called Superman/Batman, then i would have said yes.

Well, I think the fight would only be in the 2nd act only....they would have to join up eventually.

And the film would be called WORLD'S FINEST......that's a given.

Fan of the comic series? Some of the arcs in that were cool but parts of some were dumb.

Well, it was more of an "OUT THERE" sort of SCI-FI, elseworld feel. Really, really out there stuff.

By far, though, the Supergirl arc with Michael Turner was the best I thought.

trustyside-kick

06-30-2006, 12:18 AM

By far, though, the Supergirl arc with Michael Turner was the best I thought.

Well if anything that would be the most important thing about the series; it brought back Supergirl.

Speedball

06-30-2006, 12:19 AM

Well if anything that would be the most important thing about the series; it brought back Supergirl.
well that, and it started the Crisis.

DarkSuperman

06-30-2006, 12:22 AM

How can you even DEBATE on whether or not a Superman/Batman movie is plausible. There is a comic being published right now illustrating how well the two work together.

I for one am all for a WORLD'S FINEST Superman/Batman film. We've never seen those 2 characters together on screen in live-action before. It could be fantastic. Check out that animated movie and imagine if they did that with real actors...it would blow your mind. I just hope that for the WF movie they give them their COMIC costumes and pick a director who can mesh the two together well enough.

Robin91939

06-30-2006, 12:23 AM

I think it would be great, but would have to be WORLD'S FINEST.

Have Ra's Al Ghul return. Team him with NO ONE. He would NEVER work with Luthor.

-R

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 12:25 AM

Yeah....but there's also like 6 different ongoing comics showing how good each character can be ALONE.

I just think it can de-track from they're series......instead of focusing on each one ina film, having to split they're time in one film would be a pain. I'll ***** (oh, I would....trust me...) that Batman needs more screentime......Superman fanboys will complain Superman needs more screentime. It would be a minefield as far as the fans are concerned.

And, then there's WB. WB won't do the film......they'll make LESS money.

celldog

06-30-2006, 12:26 AM

It would ruin everything Batman has worked to acheive....a real world grittiness that only the Superman character would contaminate. If he enters the picture, I can't see Gotham as it was in Begins.
http://supermantv.net/wallpaperbattles/batmanbegins/batman-begins.jpg
http://www.sg.hu/kep/2005_09/0907superman05.jpg

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 12:26 AM

Have Ra's Al Ghul return. Team him with NO ONE. He would NEVER work with Luthor.

See, that's one of the problems......I know Superman fans will feel cheated. It would have to have Lex, just to be fair to Superman fans.

trustyside-kick

06-30-2006, 12:27 AM

I'm not really talking about the comics.
I got them at first, but when Darkseid returned, I dropped it fast.
I'm just talking about the title of the Team-up movie.
If you call it Superman versus Batman, then they don't fight, many people will be pissed.
If it's called Superman/Batman, then there wouldn't be any confusion.

Oh I know. I voted no as well actually, lol. I was just wondering cause you said to call it Superman/Batman.

trustyside-kick

06-30-2006, 12:33 AM

See, that's one of the problems......I know Superman fans will feel cheated. It would have to have Lex, just to be fair to Superman fans.

While I am not an extremely die-hard Superman fan like some people in the Superman section I still can say that I do not think that would be the case.

Every single Superman movie you see Lex Luthor...I would really like to see Parasite or especially Metallo in a Superman film; tired of seeing Luthor.

Besides, that guy you were replying to mentioned the Batman villain being Ra's Al Ghul (not like that is his greatest foe)...so Lex would not have to be in it as well because not like it would be The Joker like it was in that animated film. But then again if they did do this film they should not do Ra's either because ya...he would not work with anyone really...

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 01:20 AM

While I am not an extremely die-hard Superman fan like some people in the Superman section I still can say that I do not think that would be the case.

Every single Superman movie you see Lex Luthor...I would really like to see Parasite or especially Metallo in a Superman film; tired of seeing Luthor.

Besides, that guy you were replying to mentioned the Batman villain being Ra's Al Ghul (not like that is his greatest foe)...so Lex would not have to be in it as well because not like it would be The Joker like it was in that animated film. But then again if they did do this film they should not do Ra's either because ya...he would not work with anyone really...

My guess would be that they'd want to bring headliners to challenge Bats and Superman as well. It would take the heat off of the sure to be let-down fight between them, I mean....nobody would win...., so marketing it as Joker and Lex, they're greatest foes, joining forces.....rather than Ra's (a still relative newbie to audiences, but still badass) teaming up with Metallo, or Parasite (total unknowns to the general public). Hype would be the key, and I think having Joker and Lex would be something WB would want to make happen.

PunisherPoster

06-30-2006, 01:30 AM

This just wouldn't make much sense from a business standpoint. Why make one film when you can make two?

I also think the general public would find the whole idea a bit silly. After all, most people only know these characters from the films, and probably haven't read any "Superman vs. Batman" stories.

I remember Conan O'Brien joking about it a few years back. ("Superman has all these superpowers...Batman is just a guy that works out. This is the worst idea for a movie ever!")

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 01:43 AM

lmao.

Yeah, I think you might alienate certain audiences too. Batman is a very dark, gritty, and let's admit it.....pretty violent character. Batman Begins proved that. Superman is very kid friendly, not that he cannot be serious, but.....you won't catch any stupid parents complaining that Superman needs to be more "kiddy" (****ing bastards *****ed about BEGINS.....), so therefore....audiences that prefer the dark and violent....might be turned off by the prospect of a light and kiddy Batman......while audiences who prefer the light and kid friendly Superman....but be turned off by the prospect of a dark and violent Superman.

See what I mean? It's complicated.

Speedball

06-30-2006, 01:45 AM

well then keep them that way, and have each other bicker about the manner at which they perform their heroic feats.

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 02:31 AM

Yeah, I guess they really are the Ultimate Odd Couple.

Hmm....If this happens, I only ask one thing.....this is non-negotiable Superman fans.

I want Bruce to tag Lois.

ferlac333

06-30-2006, 02:35 AM

i liked how they mentioned Gotham too in SR

I noticed that also upon my second veiwing, do you think WB made Singer do that so that we have proof that Batman and Superman exsist in the same universe?

ChrisBaleBatman

06-30-2006, 02:38 AM

I would guess Singer did it to tease.

trustyside-kick

06-30-2006, 02:50 AM

Well in Singer's movie at some part on the news they mention Superman saving people in Gotham or something...

Superman on Bat's turf? Maybe that was him hinting they don't co-exist.

BatFitz

06-30-2006, 03:13 AM

Okay, someone get the Levitz (DC president) interview from the Supermanhomepage.com.

He basically says a teamup movie with Routh and Bale is a realistic possibility for the future...

But for now, they need to concentrate on nailing their individual franchaises.

Also, it wont be a VS movie either. Brandon basically said he woud be up for it but Batman and Supes shouldnt be fighting each other (which is true)....

It will be World's Finest instead.

Well, technically it would have to be a VS., because Superman and Batman stand for different politics....Superman=Justice/Batman=Vengeance...so Vs...but not physically....it would be interesting to see how they effect eachothers lives though...

ChrisBaleBatman

07-01-2006, 01:07 PM

Yeah, it could be. But, I think it'd be physical too. Batman and Superman would probably fight.

PunisherPoster

07-01-2006, 01:17 PM

I noticed that also upon my second veiwing, do you think WB made Singer do that so that we have proof that Batman and Superman exsist in the same universe?

I think it was just an in-joke, much like the Metropolis reference in Batman Forever.

ChrisBaleBatman

07-01-2006, 01:42 PM

Joke?

Nah....it came off serious.

A joke would have been what was said in......ehh.......Batman...and....Robin.

Sorry, it's still hard to acknowlegde that film's existence.

PunisherPoster

07-01-2006, 01:44 PM

Not a 'this is supposed to be funny' joke, just an in-joke (easter egg).

Steelsheen

07-01-2006, 02:08 PM

Yeah, I guess they really are the Ultimate Odd Couple.

Hmm....If this happens, I only ask one thing.....this is non-negotiable Superman fans.

I want Bruce to tag Lois.

only if we can get Wonder Woman to lay it on heavy with Supes. ;)

SFII

07-01-2006, 03:03 PM

Sub-Zero

07-01-2006, 03:06 PM

i really don't think it'll happen now. superman is not doing so well in the box office right now. its turning into this year's king kong. its sad. superman had so much potential but singer bogged it down with way too much emotion and almost no action.

ChrisBaleBatman

07-01-2006, 06:13 PM

it's a bad idea. why would Superman and Batman want to fight each other?? i just don't see it. unless the plot was somehow devised by a supervillian to hypnotize them into fighting each other. and then you could have Evil Superman(like in Superman 3) VS Evil Batman. that could actually be interesting to see. that might be the only way it could work. but the plot would be too predictalbe becuz we'd know that they somehow snap out of it, and join forces to defeat the supervillain. lol

Because when they first meet, they reallly don't like eachother.

Batman beats the hell out of bad guys, interrogates them for information....he's a dark hero, and many wonder if he should even be considered a HERO if not a Vigilante.

Superman is the boy scout....you'll NEVER catch Superman, even on his worst ****ing day, smashing a thug's head into a bathroom mirro while the man is pissing......that's just not his way. Superman is the MR. Clean.

It makes sense that they fight when they first meet......doesn't it?