For All You Robin Haters!

[xwolverine2]

......................

i mean robin williams!!!....hes perfect as the joker.

its just people get the wrong image of him.

heres my proof at how he would be able to pull off the joker
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kWPmlmwN97U&search=death%20to%20smoochy
^
he could play it like that BUT MORE DARKER!:up: :)

and i know he could play DARKER.....if anyone doubts it...watch insomnia or shut up!

[xwolverine2]

^
he even has a colorful suit in that vid....lol

[Two-Face]

Problem is HE'S TOO OLD!

[xwolverine2]

Problem is HE'S TOO OLD!
ras al ghul wasnt?

[Two-Face]

ras al ghul wasnt?

Well if Nolan wants YOUNGER JOKER to match Bale's Batman then Williams is too old play the role jeez.

[CrypticOne]

Problem is HE'S TOO OLD!

I agree.

[xwolverine2]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/joke2%20done_00000.jpg


hes not TOO OLD!!!

[Phaser]

ras al ghul wasnt?

Ra's al Ghul was always older than Batman, whether it is the comics, TAS or film. He's not Batman's arch nemesis like the Joker. More like a twisted mentor of sorts. He wanted to marry his daughter to Bruce for crying out loud! The mere suggestion of Ra's being "too old" in Begins is downright ridiculous.

[Spider-Fan83]

I like this clip alil better lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teS8c0qMgDQ&mode=related&search=death%20to%20smoochy

[xwolverine2]

I like this clip alil better lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teS8c0qMgDQ&mode=related&search=death%20to%20smoochy
lol exactly!...hes perfect!

[xwolverine2]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/joke3_00000.jpg

heres another one i made!:up: :o

[El Payaso]

He's not too old... He's AWARE THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY MORE JOKERS THREADS!!!

[xwolverine2]

this is a robin thread:)

[Doc Holliday]

That Robin crack was definitely not funny.

And Williams might do well in the part, but it doesn't matter, cause Bettany's getting it. :)

[wikum]

i doubt anyone really needed to watch the clip to know that robin williams has all the acting ability needed to play the clown prince of crime. however, i for one was hoping for a younger, skinny and tall/lanky actor for this take on the joker and williams does not fall into that catagory, although i probably would prefer him to hulme.

[StorminNorman]

Does Robin Williams have the talent? Hell yes. Could Robin Williams do a fantastic job? Hell yes. Should Robin Williams be the Joker? Hell no. The reason is that he does not have the look nor the age to do it now. He would of been perfect for Burton's Batman, hell if they were remaking Burton's Batman I wouldn't mind Williams - but not for Nolan's universe.

[Spider-Fan83]

Does Robin Williams have the talent? Hell yes. Could Robin Williams do a fantastic job? Hell yes. Should Robin Williams be the Joker? Hell no. The reason is that he does not have the look nor the age to do it now. He would of been perfect for Burton's Batman, hell if they were remaking Burton's Batman I wouldn't mind Williams - but not for Nolan's universe.
wasn't he in the running to do Burtons joker, I think I hear somewhere that like it was offiered to him after Jake turn it down or something like that. I think He was also the first runner for burtons riddler, before he leavethe project ot whatever happened there.

[StorminNorman]

wasn't he in the running to do Burtons joker, I think I hear somewhere that like it was offiered to him after Jake turn it down or something like that. I think He was also the first runner for burtons riddler, before he leavethe project ot whatever happened there.

I am going to assume you mean Jack :)

After Jack Nicholson and WB were having problems coming to terms for Nicholson to play the Joker WB started to open talks with Robin Williams. This led to Nicholson eventually signing with WB. Robin Williams ended up with bad feelings because he felt he was used by WB. WB wanted him for the Riddler role first, but Robin wouldnt sign until WB apologized....or atleast thats what I have heard.

[Two-Face]

Does Robin Williams have the talent? Hell yes. Could Robin Williams do a fantastic job? Hell yes. Should Robin Williams be the Joker? Hell no. The reason is that he does not have the look nor the age to do it now. He would of been perfect for Burton's Batman, hell if they were remaking Burton's Batman I wouldn't mind Williams - but not for Nolan's universe.


Exactly how I feel...:up:

[DeFett]

Probably has already been posted but I'll post it here anyway.


http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

Robin Williams really in the mix?
Author: Jett
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 2:04 PM CENTRAL TIME: Could Robin Williams really enter the mix to play The Joker? Could be. At first I dismissed it and figured RW was getting some run due to his prior association with Chris Nolan. But Williams seems to want the part -- bad.

As a result, I’ve been doing a bit of digging on this for you all and myself. I had one of my “industry insiders” tell me that if Mr. Williams wants the job, he’d certainly “be right there in the mix” for the role. "How could Warner and Nolan NOT seriously consider him," our source said. Anyway, I’m still on it and have made a few calls and emailed various sources and I’m waiting for a response -- which may not come until next week after the 4th of July…

I'm really not a big fan of this idea.

[Phaser]

Robin Williams most certainly is pushing for the role...desperately.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/714/714752p1.html

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=338468

[CConn]

While I think he's too old for the role, that interview really gave me a lot of confidence that he could do a quite excellent job with the role. I wouldn't say I'm gunning for him to get cast or anything, but I'd have no problem with it if he was.

[StorminNorman]

While I think he's too old for the role, that interview really gave me a lot of confidence that he could do a quite excellent job with the role. I wouldn't say I'm gunning for him to get cast or anything, but I'd have no problem with it if he was.

My thoughts exactly :up:

[MaskedManJRK]

Robin Williams most certainly is pushing for the role...desperately.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/714/714752p1.html

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=338468

Okay, I was kind-of on the fence, but after the IGN interview, Robin has to play The Joker. Not only does he have the comedic and dramatic talent nessesary, but he just GETS the character. :up:

[MaskedManJRK]

I like this clip alil better lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teS8c0qMgDQ&mode=related&search=death%20to%20smoochy

And I like THIS clip a little better. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DptOO7ZAhnI

[SUPERSEBAS]

I love Robin Williams, but I dont whant him for the Joker!!

[Ben Urich]

He's about 20 years too old for the role. :down
I mean, he's hilarious, but no. Sorry.

[Black Panther]

^^^^ I agree fully with Ben. ;)

[bane]

If he plays the Joker it will be a perfect cast!

[TheEgyptian]

hmm.. iffy on this one

[Doc Holliday]

If he plays the Joker it will be a perfect cast!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/andyspics/lexwrong.jpg

[xwolverine2]

i think you guys just want him to LOOK like the cartoon/comic joker....

sure hes a bit old but hes not THAT old.... he has the personality and he knows how joker should be played...and for god sakes he respects nolan and everything.

must i add a poll? robin vs. bettany?

[Doc Holliday]

No, you mustn't.

I really think Robin Williams would be great, except there would be something about him that wouldn't be right the whole time. I'd be watching him going "There's something that doesn't fit here, but I don't know what it is."

[xwolverine2]

No, you mustn't.

I really think Robin Williams would be great, except there would be something about him that wouldn't be right the whole time. I'd be watching him going "There's something that doesn't fit here, but I don't know what it is."
like...............?

[Katsuro]

I'm really quite divided on this. I guess i'd have to agree with Norm, he'd make an excellent Joker, but he's just not what this franchise needs. I'm hoping for someone Bale's age, who also has the tall and lanky build of the Joker. Paul Bettany's also a great actor, so that doens't hurt.

I do immensly respect him for having actually getting the character, and even mentioning specific graphic novels.

[Diamondhead]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/andyspics/lexwrong.jpgLOL

[Diamondhead]

Let’s get prince to try it out!
Just check is video party man!
He’d be the perfect joker!
He can act!

[Doc Holliday]

like...............?

That's my point. I don't know what it is.

Everyone says he's too old, and that's true, but to me, there's something else, I just can't pinpoint it.

[CConn]

I do immensly respect him for having actually getting the character, and even mentioning specific graphic novels.Not just that, but he threw out the name of a series even a lot of comic fans don't know about.

For that, I decided, he should be awarded a metal.

[Phaser]

While I think he's too old for the role, that interview really gave me a lot of confidence that he could do a quite excellent job with the role. I wouldn't say I'm gunning for him to get cast or anything, but I'd have no problem with it if he was.

My thoughts exactly :up:

Okay, I was kind-of on the fence, but after the IGN interview, Robin has to play The Joker. Not only does he have the comedic and dramatic talent nessesary, but he just GETS the character. :up:

Looks like we're all in the same boat. I'm not really campaigning for him to get the role (or anyone else for that matter, Nolan's choice is my choice), but yeah, some of his comments about the character are spot on and since he's an actor who's shown to be able to handle both comedy and menace quite well. All those people who think he play a ****ed up villain should watch Insomnia, his best performance in years.

[Two-Face]

Author: Jett
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 2:04 PM CENTRAL TIME: Could Robin Williams really enter the mix to play The Joker? Could be. At first I dismissed it and figured RW was getting some run due to his prior association with Chris Nolan. But Williams seems to want the part -- bad.

As a result, I’ve been doing a bit of digging on this for you all and myself. I had one of my “industry insiders” tell me that if Mr. Williams wants the job, he’d certainly “be right there in the mix” for the role. "How could Warner and Nolan NOT seriously consider him," our source said. Anyway, I’m still on it and have made a few calls and emailed various sources and I’m waiting for a response -- which may not come until next week after the 4th of July…

http://www.batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

I hope we can put this to bed next week, I don't want Williams in the role.

[Mr. Thing]

I'd certainly prefer Williams over a certain name that's in the mix just now.

[Nightwing92]

come on..... you'll know that he's extremely old for the role.... that would be so stupid if batman was younger and the joker was like 25 yrs older than him... check this out.... http://www.cinematical.com/2005/06/15/mark-hamill-may-play-joker-in-batman-sequel

[bane]

He's old yeah, but none of the other actors can fill Nicholson's shoes!

[batmaluco]

Just for the fact that he can "get" the Joker (Arkham Asylum, as we can see in that interview) and because he is such a great actor and can play a nice villain as can be seen in "Insomnia", I think he deserves at least a screentest for this role.

And even if he end up not being the chosen by Nolan, I would love to see his screentests for this role.

[The Kid]

It depends on if you want a joker to look like joker or have an excellent actor under the make-up. I'd go with teh latter. I dont give a damn if he looks like that skinny wimp from the comics as long as we get the best joker performance ever.

[Mr. Thing]

It depends on if you want a joker to look like joker or have an excellent actor under the make-up. I'd go with teh latter. I dont give a damn if he looks like that skinny wimp from the comics as long as we get the best joker performance ever.

I love you, Weyseed.

[Borat]

Wow that clip is awesome. He would be a fantastic Joker. But I don't see it happening.

[Mr. Thing]

Just made a quick manip.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2509/jokah9sn.jpg

[Two-Face]

Just made a quick manip.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2509/jokah9sn.jpg

I like that :up:

[titan101]

Just made a quick manip.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2509/jokah9sn.jpg pretty cool. i wish i had photo shop.:(

[xwolverine2]

Wow that clip is awesome. He would be a fantastic Joker. But I don't see it happening.
which clip?

It depends on if you want a joker to look like joker or have an excellent actor under the make-up. I'd go with teh latter. I dont give a damn if he looks like that skinny wimp from the comics as long as we get the best joker performance ever.
EXACTLY!

and robin isnt too far from the joker look too... ^the manips speak for themselves!

[StorminNorman]

My problem with Robin Williams is not that hs doesnt LOOK like the Joker - just that he's old enough to be the Joker's father.

[xwolverine2]

My problem with Robin Williams is not that hs doesnt LOOK like the Joker - just that he's old enough to be the Joker's father.
you prefer looks over his performance?

[bane]

A quick manip:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg

[xwolverine2]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/choker_00000.jpg

[xwolverine2]

holy ****! you fixed the eye!:eek:

im sorry but robin williams is perfect.... even by looks,he brings a more real and dark version

[bane]

Thx, yes the eye was not so hard to fix...

[titan101]

A quick manip:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg WOW!!! that's horrific. nice job!

[Mr. Credible]

robins could play the role, no doubt, and he has the face, but i want a tall, thin joker... not a pudgy one.

[Mr. Credible]

A quick manip:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg

um... holy crap!

nevermind what i just said. he can have the role.

[xwolverine2]

robins could play the role, no doubt, and he has the face, but i want a tall, thin joker... not a pudgy one.
and why cant he lose a couple of pounds?:confused:

remember thomas haden church before sm3??...look at him now.
of course i dont want him to be buff though....just slightly slimmer:up:

[Boom]

A quick manip:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg
That is beautiful.

He'd make a good Alex Ross Joker in my opinion.

[xwolverine2]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/jokr1_00000.jpg
http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/rob3.bmp
^
wieeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrd

[El Payaso]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/choker_00000.jpg

My face! Is melting!!!

[xwolverine2]

My face! Is melting!!!
haha:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ***in ha....
:o

[Lightning54SC]

not bad but a little old

[The Kid]

that's a damn good idea of making the red on his lips be blood.

take notes, nolan. ;)

[xwolverine2]

that's a damn good idea of making the red on his lips be blood.

take notes, nolan. ;)
yeah like hes watching:rolleyes:

[The-Dark-Knight]

i love robin williams the guys so funny, but should he be the joker.....no, for the simple fact that hes robin williams. people will see robin williams not the joker. we need someone people wont really know like hulme or bettany, i mean even your gran knows williams and thats the problem. part of the sucess of the spider-man films is that tobey maguire isant a household name,people saw peter parker played by tobey maguire, not tobey maguire playing peter parker.....and thats the way the joker should be portrayed.

i'd have him in a minor role though like the penguin or he'd make a great ventriliquist. cool manip though:)

[chosen1]

the joker is older than batman correct?

[xwolverine2]

the joker is older than batman correct?
yeah....


and no i dont think robin should be the joker because hes funny... hes a dam good actor.didnt he win an oscar?

[Avernus]

A quick manip:)
http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg

I remember someone making a Vincent Cassels manip and it had the same quality as this.....not like most of the ones I've seen that look like someone threw the photo in windows paint real quick....

[jaguarr]

Going by his actual age, Williams might be a little long in the tooth but I do think he's capable of trimming up a little for the role and appearing youthful enough for it. The Joker is supposed to be a bit older than Batman, I believe. At any rate, I had read that IGN Filmforce interview with Williams a couple days ago and just thought to myself "My god...he gets it. I mean...REALLY gets it!", and I have no reservations about what kind of performance he could put out. I really do believe he could make The Joker come off as such a perversive, sick, twisted, sadistic, psychotic f**k that it would make Nicholson's interpretation seem sophmoric in comparison. I do like Bettany for the role as well, but I just have this feeling that Williams could put some meat in the role that might not get put there by another actor. There's a level of complexity and turned-in torture that Williams brings to these types of roles he's played in the past that plays really well. The man is definitely not a light-weight when it comes to his acting chops.


And bane, that manip you did is definitely proof that he could pull the look off, without a doubt.

jag

[xwolverine2]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/omgrobin.gif
robin w. screen test:D :D :joker:

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/phonyfaster.gif
http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/smileofdeath.gif

[xwolverine2]

so how many of you have i convinced?

[javi1024]

Just made a quick manip.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2509/jokah9sn.jpg
thats a great lookin manip and he definitely has the acting ability. but how old (or young) is he in that picture cuz his age is still stopping me from saying yes. im still for bettany.

[xwolverine2]

thats a great lookin manip and he definitely has the acting ability. but how old (or young) is he in that picture cuz his age is still stopping me from saying yes. im still for bettany.
thats from 4 years ago....

http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0449089/Ss/0449089/028.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0449089
^
he hasnt aged a day!... check out this pic from RV which came out this year

[Two-Face]

Bettany For Joker!

[xwolverine2]

Bettany For Joker!
you wanna back that up with a reason?:confused:

[Two-Face]

1. He's great actor, watch Gangster No 1
2. He's tall like the Joker and can be skinny lik the Joker
3. He's my fellow countryman.

[xwolverine2]

1. He's great actor, watch Gangster No 1
2. He's tall like the Joker and can be skinny lik the Joker
3. He's my fellow countryman.
he has never shown that he can act like the joker... thats my problem with him..... he seems a bit boring

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/blueeye.gif

[StorminNorman]

http://www.paulbettany.net/main.php?trailers

At first I shared your concerns Wolverine, but I do nolonger
- watch some of the interviews he does on late night talk show, the guy is hilarious :up:

[xwolverine2]

http://www.paulbettany.net/main.php?trailers

At first I shared your concerns Wolverine, but I do nolonger
- watch some of the interviews he does on late night talk show, the guy is hilarious :up:
but he does it in a boring way....

robin has enthusiasm.

[Robin91939]

ras al ghul wasnt?
RA's AL GHUL IS SUPPOSED TO BE 600 YEARS OLD

Joker should be slightly older than the Batman.

-R

[Robin91939]

HULME btw.

-R

[xwolverine2]

RA's AL GHUL IS SUPPOSED TO BE 600 YEARS OLD

Joker should be slightly older than the Batman.

-R
AND YOU MAKE IT SEEM LIKE ROBIN IS 600 YEARS OLD!

HULME btw.
wtf is HULME?:confused:

[El Payaso]

so how many of you have i convinced?

You convinced me this thread was unnecessary and that you should have posted this in the official Joker thread.

[Doc Holliday]

I wish the mods would visit here and fricking CLOSE THIS POINTLESS THREAD ABOUT ROBIN WILLIAMS.

Cough.

[Robin91939]

AND YOU MAKE IT SEEM LIKE ROBIN IS 600 YEARS OLD!
How so? Because you made the REDICULOUSLY dumb post that because Ra's Al Ghul was over 50; the Joker could be?

It is part of Ra's Al Ghul's character to be older. NOT the Joker's. It is actually his character to be about the same age as the Batman. If we have a 30 year old Batman...we need a 30 something Joker.


wtf is HULME?:confused:
http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg

What's a Hulme? You'll find out in 2008 when he headlines the new Batman movie playing the Joker opposite Christian Bale.

-R

[Katsuro]

Robin Williams is too much like Jack Nicholson to play this role. If he plays the Joker, it will only fuel people's misconceptions that these films are connected to the older movies. We need a drastically different Joker to show people these characters are different.

That's the main reason why Robin Williams CANT play the Joker. Well, number two. Number one is that Paul Bettany exists.

[bane]

New manip......He should portray him!
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8159/24maniped4nd.jpg

[Two-Face]

he has never shown that he can act like the joker... thats my problem with him..... he seems a bit boring

Boring??

From BOF:
http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/websize/Joker%20Bettany.jpg


That's Joker!:up:

[fabman]

Paul Bettany'd be the worst choice for Joker. Go for another actor, I can't stand him.

[Two-Face]

Paul Bettany'd be the worst choice for Joker. Go for another actor, I can't stand him.


Yeah like Clooney was as Batman :rolleyes:

[bane]

Yeah, he doesn't have the chin or the nose that "The Joker" should have, but Williams does

[fabman]

Yes, Williams for Joker.

[xwolverine2]

WOW bane!... nice manip!.

i had that exact same idea but i couldnt find a bats pic that worked with it..lol

if hulme was chosen instead of robin then i would kill myself..... so the reason you dont want robin as joker is because hes like jack nicholson?HOW?!


and yes TWO FACE....boring... the pic just proved it. he looks like bill gates there

and if anything this thread should be merged.... ive stated my point.

[lujho]

Please, not another pudgy, short, 50+ year old man for Joker.

[The Kid]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/omgrobin.gif
robin w. screen test:D :D :joker:

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/phonyfaster.gif
http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/smileofdeath.gif

The contest is over. I'm sold. totally.

[xwolverine2]

The contest is over. I'm sold.
there was no contest...........

......its robin:joker:

[The Kid]

How so? Because you made the REDICULOUSLY dumb post that because Ra's Al Ghul was over 50; the Joker could be?

It is part of Ra's Al Ghul's character to be older. NOT the Joker's. It is actually his character to be about the same age as the Batman. If we have a 30 year old Batman...we need a 30 something Joker.


http://www.jokeronfilm.com/lachy2.jpg

What's a Hulme? You'll find out in 2008 when he headlines the new Batman movie playing the Joker opposite Christian Bale.

-R

sooo he can look crazy. But can he do it with a smile? ;)

[xwolverine2]

sooo he can look crazy. But can he do it with a smile? ;)
he would play a perfect bin laden:o :down :down :down

[theShape]

Hulme would be a better choice than Williams. because A) William's may be funny, but he's not JOKER funny...and B) he's an old, short, hairy beast.

just from that pic above of Hulme, you can see how he can play crazy. and there's another pic of him somewhere on the net of him smiling...and he IS The Joker. that's all there is to it. not Bettany, not ****ing Robin Williams.

LACHY HULME.

[bane]

But Hulme can't act, atleast i'm still not convinced...I've only seen him in "The Matrix Revolutions"

[theShape]

But Hulme can't act, atleast i'm still not convinced...I've only seen him in "The Matrix Revolutions"

no one acts in a matrix movie. of course he's not gonna be over-the-top or anything. he's gonna deliver his lines, like everyone in the matrix does.

[xwolverine2]

But Hulme can't act, atleast i'm still not convinced...I've only seen him in "The Matrix Revolutions"
who was he?

ROBIN FOR MR J!!

[Mr. Thing]

But Hulme can't act, atleast i'm still not convinced...I've only seen him in "The Matrix Revolutions"

I seen him in "Four Jacks" and as far as I'm concerned, he can act. Really well.

[xwolverine2]

I seen him in "Four Jacks" and as far as I'm concerned, he can act. Really well.
everyone can act.....but can he act like the joker.

[Mr. Thing]

everyone can act.....but can he act like the joker.

Yeah. He goes a bit ****ing nuts in this film.

[xwolverine2]

Yeah. He goes a bit ****ing nuts in this film.
hannibal lecter nuts or cleutus cassidy nuts?

[Mr. Thing]

hannibal lecter nuts or cleutus cassidy nuts?

Restrained nuts. With an Aussie accent. Aussome. :o

[xwolverine2]

Restrained nuts. With an Aussie accent. Aussome. :o
restrained?...

next...

[Mr. Thing]

restrained?...

next...

Ever heard of range at all? :o

[xwolverine2]

Ever heard of range at all? :o
i said next......


lol j/k i didnt even know wth u meant by restrained:)

[Mr. Thing]

i said next......


lol j/k i didnt even know wth u meant by restrained:)

Kind of contained. You know he's nuts, and he shows it, but not in an exactly psychoey outburst if you know what I mean...

[cerealkiller182]

Kind of contained. You know he's nuts, and he shows it, but not in an exactly psychoey outburst if you know what I mean...


kinda like Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs?

[Doc Holliday]

kinda like Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs?

Good movie, minus the whole ear part...

Ew.

[Katsuro]

WOW bane!... nice manip!.

i had that exact same idea but i couldnt find a bats pic that worked with it..lol

if hulme was chosen instead of robin then i would kill myself..... so the reason you dont want robin as joker is because hes like jack nicholson?HOW?!


and yes TWO FACE....boring... the pic just proved it. he looks like bill gates there

and if anything this thread should be merged.... ive stated my point.

We've seen Batman go up against a much older, slightly overweight Joker before (two things Joker has never been). Robin Williams was even in talks to play the B'89 Joker at one point. I want a different Joker this time around.

[xwolverine2]

We've seen Batman go up against a much older, slightly overweight Joker before (two things Joker has never been). Robin Williams was even in talks to play the B'89 Joker at one point. I want a different Joker this time around.
so thats how hes like jack?....hes older and chubby?:confused:

......

[Katsuro]

so thats how hes like jack?....hes older and chubby?:confused:

......

Partially, yes. To have him look just like the previous actor, when neither of them look like the source material, kinda sends the message that their playing the same character. It would seem like the studio is trying to match the likeness of the previous actor, even if they really aren't.

It would be like putting Catwoman in BB2, making her completely unassociated with the Catwoman film, and yet casting an actress who looks like Halle Berry. People who just see the ads, or people who dont really remember the details of the Catwoman movie, are gonna assume it's the same Catwoman only recast. Do you get my point? People will see Robin and think "Joker isn't supposed to be old and chubby. Well, i guess they're trying to make him look like Jack Nicholson's Joker." That'll lead to people thinking their the same. That's the last thing we want.

[xwolverine2]

Partially, yes. To have him look just like the previous actor, when neither of them look like the source material, kinda sends the message that their playing the same character. It would seem like the studio is trying to match the likeness of the previous actor, even if they really aren't.

It would be like putting Catwoman in BB2, making her completely unassociated with the Catwoman film, and yet casting an actress who looks like Halle Berry. People who just see the ads, or people who dont really remember the details of the Catwoman movie, are gonna assume it's the same Catwoman only recast. Do you get my point? People will see Robin and think "Joker isn't supposed to be old and chubby. Well, i guess they're trying to make him look like Jack Nicholson's Joker." That'll lead to people thinking their the same. That's the last thing we want.
yeah i see your point..........

but everybody already knows this is a new batman.
and u cant say robins performance will be the same as jacks... for all we know he can play it very differently.

[Marvel Man]

Does Robin Williams have the talent? Hell yes. Could Robin Williams do a fantastic job? Hell yes. Should Robin Williams be the Joker? Hell no. The reason is that he does not have the look nor the age to do it now. He would of been perfect for Burton's Batman, hell if they were remaking Burton's Batman I wouldn't mind Williams - but not for Nolan's universe.

This is said perfectly! Period.

[xwolverine2]

and WHAT IS right for nolans universe?

does it not include great acting?

[ryan dube]

Robin is too old, hell, Nickolson was too old, but we don't want someone in their 50's+ to take on the role of the Joker.

The only hope that Robin has for this role is if he gets what Ian and Patrick had in X-men 3, a digital facelift.

[xwolverine2]

Robin is too old, hell, Nickolson was too old, but we don't want someone in their 50's+ to take on the role of the Joker.

The only hope that Robin has for this role is if he gets what Ian and Patrick had in X-men 3, a digital facelift.
well...thats up to nolan.

and im sure if he had to choose between looks and performance he would choose performance.and robin isnt too far from looks.....he has the face,chin nose.etc....except for the body.

[ryan dube]

The best match up for me would be Crispin Glover and Mark Hamill, Crispin was very versitile in the Charlie's Angels films and Mark won me over as the Joker from the series...

[Ongie]

Robin Williams would be a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible choice for the Joker.

For so many reasons.

::Clears throat::

-The guy is too old to play Joker... This is the beginning of his criminal career, remember... and we've already seen an older iteration of the Clown Prince (Nicholson).

-Robin Williams doesn't look like the Joker... Plain and simple. Argue if you want... but it's not going to change that fact.

-The man is hairier and slightly less attractive than my scrotum.

-He is ROBIN WILLIAMS... Mrs. Doubtfire for Christ's sake.

I don't feel that I need to say anything more.

[xwolverine2]

The best match up for me would be Crispin Glover and Mark Hamill, Crispin was very versitile in the Charlie's Angels films and Mark won me over as the Joker from the series...
crispin had NO lines in charlies angels!:confused: :down

AND YOU SAY ROBIN W. IS OLD!?.....yet you say mark hamil!!:eek:
have you seen him recently......or do u just think of star wars?

[xwolverine2]

Robin Williams would be a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible choice for the Joker.

For so many reasons.

::Clears throat::

-The guy is too old to play Joker... This is the beginning of his criminal career, remember... and we've already seen an older iteration of the Clown Prince (Nicholson).

-Robin Williams doesn't look like the Joker... Plain and simple. Argue if you want... but it's not going to change that fact.

-The man is hairier and slightly less attractive than my scrotum.

-He is ROBIN WILLIAMS... Mrs. Doubtfire for Christ's sake.

I don't feel that I need to say anything more.
you practically repeated the same thing over and over again..:confused:


then said hes Mrs.Doubtfire.......which is one of the most ignorant things ive ever heard

[ryan dube]

crispin had NO lines in charlies angels!:confused: :down

AND YOU SAY ROBIN W. IS OLD!?.....yet you say mark hamil!!:eek:
have you seen him recently......or do u just think of star wars?

Oh geez you don't read do you?

Crispin was very active in that film meaning he could keep up with the choreoraphy and Mark is old but his VOICE is perfect!

Stop before you hurt yourself...

[Ongie]

No... I didn't say the same thing over and over again. My argument was framed this way...

- His age is a factor.

- His look is a factor.

- He has a history of slapstick roles that make him identifiable... and harder to disappear into the character.

You might not agree with my argument. To each his own... But don't call it ignorant..

If anything... Casting the star of "RV" as a homocidal maniac is ignorance.

[Marvel Man]

No... I didn't say the same thing over and over again. My argument was framed this way...

- His age is a factor.

- His look is a factor.

- He has a history of slapstick roles that make him identifiable... and harder to disappear into the character.

You might not agree with my argument. To each his own... But don't call it ignorant..

If anything... Casting the star of "RV" as a homocidal maniac is ignorance.

I have to agree, ill give it that Robin is a good actor in comedies and so forth but i cant see him in this one acting seious/theatrically crazy in his moments.

[xwolverine2]

Oh geez you don't read do you?

Crispin was very active in that film meaning he could keep up with the choreoraphy and Mark is old but his VOICE is perfect!

since when is the joker a martial arts expert?:confused:

so now were willing to throw age out the window?......yeah nice one.

No... I didn't say the same thing over and over again. My argument was framed this way...
- His age is a factor.
- His look is a factor.
- He has a history of slapstick roles that make him identifiable... and harder to disappear into the character.
You might not agree with my argument. To each his own... But don't call it ignorant..
If anything... Casting the star of "RV" as a homocidal maniac is ignorance.
age is practically the same as looks........ hell someone could look 50 and could look young.(not that robin does)

what i meant by ignorant is that you only see him as miss doubtfire...and the guy from RV. and yet you completely ignore the fact the he played a psychopath in insomnia...and has won an oscar.

[Ongie]

Perhaps I'm incorrect about Williams... I should go watch some of his darker stuff.

Anyway... To me there are others more suited to the part... but we shall see.

[ryan dube]

when casting a character you have to keep clear your decisions and decide when and where age is a factor for a specific role, I know this is hard for you to soak in, but it is needed...

I love Robin Williams, but as Nolan has already stated, there will be no "Robin" in these films, lol

(yes I do know he was talking about Dick Grayson as Robin, but I wanted to put that in there, and I believe I had to put this in here cause your next post would have been to try and correct me on what Nolan was "really" talking about)

[jaguarr]

If anything... Casting the star of "RV" as a homocidal maniac is ignorance.

Christopher Nolan would probably disagree with you.
You might want to go rent "insomnia".

jag

[ryan dube]

might want to also watch One Hour Photo

[xwolverine2]

Perhaps I'm incorrect about Williams... I should go watch some of his darker stuff.

Anyway... To me there are others more suited to the part... but we shall see.
well yeah.... of course. but i havent really seen any, maybe bettany.

[xwolverine2]

when casting a character you have to keep clear your decisions and decide when and where age is a factor for a specific role, I know this is hard for you to soak in, but it is needed...

I love Robin Williams, but as Nolan has already stated, there will be no "Robin" in these films, lol

(yes I do know he was talking about Dick Grayson as Robin, but I wanted to put that in there, and I believe I had to put this in here cause your next post would have been to try and correct me on what Nolan was "really" talking about)
no...........i wasnt:confused:

might want to also watch One Hour Photo
that was a bit too creepy.

[ryan dube]

lol yea yea ;)

[xwolverine2]

lol yea yea ;)
when have i ever?....find one post where i have

[ryan dube]

you have tried numerous times to 'correct' me, don't you read your own posts?

[xwolverine2]

you have tried numerous times to 'correct' me, don't you read your own posts?
no but i write them.....

go ahead find one where i mistook your joke for a real comment... because im sure i could find one of you doing the same

[ryan dube]

no but i write them.....

go ahead find one where i mistook your joke for a real comment... because im sure i could find one of you doing the same

I am sure you can, cause I did.

[batman7289]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/joke2%20done_00000.jpg


hes not TOO OLD!!!

LOL!! Ya That pic is the perfect description for youth

[Katsuro]

yeah i see your point..........

but everybody already knows this is a new batman.
and u cant say robins performance will be the same as jacks... for all we know he can play it very differently.

You would be surprised how untrue that is. It's quite sad really, but the general public still thinks Begins was a straight up prequel to Batman '89. I remember people being confused about someone else killing his parents, other than the Joker. Also, Who Wants to be a Millionare had a questions asking which of four movies was a prequel, the "correct" answer being Batman Begins. So there is still quite a bit of confusion, and I feel one of the best ways to undo that would be to bring in a fresh, young Joker who's got the tall, thin build of comic Joker, and the complete opposite of good ol' Jack.

[xwolverine2]

You would be surprised how untrue that is. It's quite sad really, but the general public still thinks Begins was a straight up prequel to Batman '89. I remember people being confused about someone else killing his parents, other than the Joker. Also, Who Wants to be a Millionare had a questions asking which of four movies was a prequel, the "correct" answer being Batman Begins. So there is still quite a bit of confusion, and I feel one of the best ways to undo that would be to bring in a fresh, young Joker who's got the tall, thin build of comic Joker, and the complete opposite of good ol' Jack.
if the general audience doesnt get it then they are retards.

[Katsuro]

if the general audience doesnt get it then they are retards.

Yeah I know, I just cant comprehend it. The stories just dont fit together properly. Different killer of Batman's parents, differnet relationship with Gordon, different origin of Joker (he exists at the end, and is said to already be "theatrical"), different public opinion of Batman (no one believes the one reporter who says he exists in B'89, in BB he's on the front page).

I think perhaps people saw Batman Begins without having seen the very first Batman movie in a long time, so they forgot specifics. Only fanboys like us watch these movies repeatedly.

[xwolverine2]

Yeah I know, I just cant comprehend it. The stories just dont fit together properly. Different killer of Batman's parents, differnet relationship with Gordon, different origin of Joker (he exists at the end, and is said to already be "theatrical"), different public opinion of Batman (no one believes the one reporter who says he exists in B'89, in BB he's on the front page).

I think perhaps people saw Batman Begins without having seen the very first Batman movie in a long time, so they forgot specifics. Only fanboys like us watch these movies repeatedly.
wouldnt joker BEING in BB2 completely shatter all connections with tim burton?

[StorminNorman]

It will, but it hasnt happened yet

[xwolverine2]

It will, but it hasnt happened yet
well...

they should have come to there senses right after seeing the dam trailer:mad:

[MaskedManJRK]

that was a bit too creepy.

I dunno...I think Insomnia is creepier. Sly at least had some sympathy going for him, his character in Insomnia was just a manipulative, murderious bastard. :o

[xwolverine2]

I dunno...I think Insomnia is creepier. Sly at least had some sympathy going for him, his character in Insomnia was just a manipulative, murderious bastard. :o
robin in insomnia I LOVE.....

the fairy boat scene and hannibal lecters prison scene(silence of.) are my fav. killer scenes EVER!

[Captain Villa]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/joke2%20done_00000.jpg


hes not TOO OLD!!!

:up:

[Shedhut]

cmon stop it please.
1. he is too old.
2. he has no joker spirit. whatever he acts he will always be the sad clown type of guy which doesnt cover the whole Joker attitude.
3....he, uhm, is too old...*runs away*

[Ox Elf]

no disrespect to Robin Williams but he would be teh sux as joker

[Katsuro]

no disrespect to Robin Williams but he would be teh sux as joker

I couldn't have said it better myself. teh sux indeed.

[WebSlingerSlick]

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/joke2%20done_00000.jpg


hes not TOO OLD!!!

Robin Willaims is a possible candidate for the role of the Joker. He is able to portray a dark grim character. He acted very well in the dramatic role of Walter Finch in Christopher Nolan's Insomnia. Jack Nicholson was perfect for the role of Burton's Joker in BATMAN. Christopher Nolan would like the Joker in the batman begins sequel someone you hate. A villian that is totally pure evil. No jokes, just insane. Robin Willaims has proven he can accomplish such a role in Death To Smoochey and One Hour Photo. Robin Willaims is a chameleon. As much as I am interested to see him on screen as the Joker, I think an unknown may yet to be found for such a role. Lachey Hulme would also be an excellent casting choice for the Joker. I think Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer will continue to develop themes from THE LONG HALLOWEEN. Robin Willaims would be fasinating in thwe role of Joker. Nice pic of Robin Williams as the Joker though.
:up:

[theShape]

xwolverine2, the truth is that you are not willing to look at anyone else for the role. you're set on robin williams and you're going to be very disappointed when 2008 comes around. you're too busy defending him against what everyone is saying about him, when EVERYONE ELSE IS RIGHT.

he IS too old.
he DOESN'T look the part
(and yes, there IS a difference between looks and age)
he IS typecast in family comedies.

here is my honest openion: i'm sure williams could provide us with a unique take on the joker. he'd probably be fine and would look and act crazy. but there are so many that fit the part so much better than him. and nolan knows that. we definitely need a younger, taller, and thinner joker, and judging by the fact that bettany and hulme are "front runners", we're gping to get that.

my vote's still for hulme.
xwolverine2, i think you're just a hardcore Doubtfire fan.

[fabman]

Damn Jim Carrey! Why did you accept the part as Riddler in Batman Forever? *sigh* Carrey would've been perfect for The Joker, he looks like The Joker, he IS The Joker.

[El Payaso]

he looks like the joker =/= he is the joker, necessarily.

[Doc Holliday]

Are you crazy? Nicholson was great!

He's rated among the top 50 greatest movie villains of all time by the AFI as the Joker.

[StorminNorman]

Jack Nicholson was a great villian and a great 1940's Joker. Sadly the very old-school Joker is not THE Joker in my mind.

[Katsuro]

Jack Nicholson was a great villian and a great 1940's Joker. Sadly the very old-school Joker is not THE Joker in my mind.

That was my problem with Jack. He did play a good villain, and he was a fairly faithful interpretation of one of Joker's incarnations, he just wasn't the Joker that I'm a fan of. I prefer the modern Joker to the older one, the loner sociopath over the mob boss with henchman.

[Two-Face]

That was my problem with Jack. He did play a good villain, and he was a fairly faithful interpretation of one of Joker's incarnations, he just wasn't the Joker that I'm a fan of. I prefer the modern Joker to the older one, the loner sociopath over the mob boss with henchman.


That's why you wouldn't CAST Robin Williams if you're Batman director. Williams is great actor but I don't want him as Joker.

[fabman]

Whatever Christopher Nolan does! It will be the right thing! Even if he'll cast Paris Hilton as The Joker, it will be a good flick ;)

[El Payaso]

No, it won't.

[Doc Holliday]

Whatever Christopher Nolan does! It will be the right thing! Even if he'll cast Paris Hilton as The Joker, it will be a good flick ;)

Just another example of...

When Analogies Go Wrong. Coming to Fox this fall.

[MaskedManJRK]

xwolverine2, the truth is that you are not willing to look at anyone else for the role. you're set on robin williams and you're going to be very disappointed when 2008 comes around. you're too busy defending him against what everyone is saying about him, when EVERYONE ELSE IS RIGHT.

he IS too old.
he DOESN'T look the part
(and yes, there IS a difference between looks and age)
he IS typecast in family comedies.

here is my honest openion: i'm sure williams could provide us with a unique take on the joker. he'd probably be fine and would look and act crazy. but there are so many that fit the part so much better than him. and nolan knows that. we definitely need a younger, taller, and thinner joker, and judging by the fact that bettany and hulme are "front runners", we're gping to get that.

my vote's still for hulme.
xwolverine2, i think you're just a hardcore Doubtfire fan.

Here's the difference with me:

Okay, Christian Bale was casted as Batman--now, there were other actors out there that could have done the role some justice, but Bale was the one who could do it best. Why? Because he GETS THE CHARACTER. Robin Williams, in his interviews, showed that he understands the character, while the other guys haven't said s**t.

[xwolverine2]

xwolverine2, the truth is that you are not willing to look at anyone else for the role. you're set on robin williams and you're going to be very disappointed when 2008 comes around. you're too busy defending him against what everyone is saying about him, when EVERYONE ELSE IS RIGHT.
my vote's still for hulme.
xwolverine2, i think you're just a hardcore Doubtfire fan.
WHAT!?... i was a bettany fan then i switched to robin. i def. wouldnt mind if they could find some one who both has the looks,and persona for the joker.

EVERYONE ELSE IS NOT RIGHT, its an opinion ok!..... yours is no better than mine.

i hate doubtfire....

[xwolverine2]

That's why you wouldn't CAST Robin Williams if you're Batman director. Williams is great actor but I don't want him as Joker.
what!? who says he couldnt play that type of role?

[Two-Face]

what!? who says he couldnt play that type of role?


What the hell are you talking about?:mad: Don't put words in my mouth. I never said he couldn't I just don't want another Nicholson type of Joker. I want tall skinny younger Joker.

[FCEEVIPER]

......................

i mean robin williams!!!....hes perfect as the joker.

its just people get the wrong image of him.

heres my proof at how he would be able to pull off the joker
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kWPmlmwN97U&search=death%20to%20smoochy
^
he could play it like that BUT MORE DARKER!:up: :)

and i know he could play DARKER.....if anyone doubts it...watch insomnia or shut up!
Too old, get over it.

[Doc Holliday]

Too old, get over it.

He won't, that's the problem.

[Katsuro]

Here's the difference with me:

Okay, Christian Bale was casted as Batman--now, there were other actors out there that could have done the role some justice, but Bale was the one who could do it best. Why? Because he GETS THE CHARACTER. Robin Williams, in his interviews, showed that he understands the character, while the other guys haven't said s**t.

Don't much care. I mean, knowlegde of a character helps a bit, but it's not going to make me want an actor whoIotherwise feel is completely wrong for the role. Crispin Glover could reveal himself to be the biggest Joker fan ever, have a huge shrine dedicated to him, and heck, even reveal that he actualy wrote The Killing Joke and that Alan Moore stole it from him, word for word, and I still wouldn't want him in the role. Actually, that brings up a good point. Let's cast Alan Moore as the Joker, he certainly gets him.

Also, if I'm not mistake Bale wasn't even the biggest Batman fan around until AFTER he was cast. He got the role, then read up on it and became a fan so he could understand the character he was playing. Bale got the role because he blew everyone away with his screentest. So I dont care if the actor they cast has never read a Batman comic in his life, as long as he's willing to once he gets the role.

Also, it's cast, not casted.

[StorminNorman]

Don't much care. I mean, knowlegde of a character helps a bit, but it's not going to make me want an actor whoIotherwise feel is completely wrong for the role. Crispin Glover could reveal himself to be the biggest Joker fan ever, have a huge shrine dedicated to him, and heck, even reveal that he actualy wrote The Killing Joke and that Alan Moore stole it from him, word for word, and I still wouldn't want him in the role. Actually, that brings up a good point. Let's cast Alan Moore as the Joker, he certainly gets him.

Also, if I'm not mistake Bale wasn't even the biggest Batman fan around until AFTER he was cast. He got the role, then read up on it and became a fan so he could understand the character he was playing. Bale got the role because he blew everyone away with his screentest. So I dont care if the actor they cast has never read a Batman comic in his life, as long as he's willing to once he gets the role.

Also, it's cast, not casted.

Couldn't of said it better myself:

http://paulor.smugmug.com/photos/24081227-L.jpg

[Two-Face]

Yep, well said Katsuro. :up:

[bstringer]

i'd HATE to see Adrian Brody get the part. I'd MUCH rather Robin Williams ANY DAY. Willaims is a great actor and he truely understands the role!

[theShape]

WHAT!?... i was a bettany fan then i switched to robin. i def. wouldnt mind if they could find some one who both has the looks,and persona for the joker.

EVERYONE ELSE IS NOT RIGHT, its an opinion ok!..... yours is no better than mine.

i hate doubtfire....

someone's age is NOT an opinion. williams IS too old. he's older now than nicholson was when he played the joker, and some people say that HE was too old then.

but if it's an "opinion", then why are you trying so desperately to defend yours? if it's just your opinion, then you wouldn't need to counter act what everyone else says about williams.

he's not going to be the joker. he's not even a contender. end of story.

[Mee]

Couldn't of said it better myself:

http://paulor.smugmug.com/photos/24081227-L.jpg
That old guy in the middle is clearly not impressed.

[Doc Holliday]

he's not going to be the joker. he's not even a contender. end of story.

Hate to burst your bubble there, especially since I'm agains Williams playing the Joker, but uh...that's not what BOF says...

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 2:04 PM CENTRAL TIME: Could Robin Williams really enter the mix to play The Joker? Could be...I’ve been doing a bit of digging on this for you all and myself. I had one of my “industry insiders” tell me that if Mr. Williams wants the job, he’d certainly “be right there in the mix” for the role. "How could Warner and Nolan NOT seriously consider him," our source said.

[boydston_14]

I just hope that Williams gets this role, it'd be AWESOME!

[Doc Holliday]

No it wouldn't.

He can act the part, but he can't look the part at all. Not even close.

[Mee]

No it wouldn't.

He can act the part, but he can't look the part at all. Not even close.
I agree. Too old, too fat.

[xwolverine2]

someone's age is NOT an opinion. williams IS too old. he's older now than nicholson was when he played the joker, and some people say that HE was too old then.

but if it's an "opinion", then why are you trying so desperately to defend yours? if it's just your opinion, then you wouldn't need to counter act what everyone else says about williams.

he's not going to be the joker. he's not even a contender. end of story.
counter acting?...dude where have you been?...these are forums!

and yes..williams IS a contender whether you like it or not.

age IS an opinion.

[xwolverine2]

I agree. Too old, too fat.
he could lose a couple of pounds

[theShape]

counter acting?...dude where have you been?...these are forums!

and yes..williams IS a contender whether you like it or not.

age IS an opinion.

yes, these are forums. and we all have our opinions. but everytime someone shares their opinion n your beloved mr. williams, you have to come back tell tell them why they're wrong. WHEN IT'S THEIR OPINION.

williams wants the role. that doesn't mean he'll get it. maybe nolan will consider him, but he doesn't fit with the vision nolan is going for and ultimately will not get the part.

as for age being an opinion. i think robin williams is about 60. but that's just my opinion....."WROOOOONGGGGGG." that's his AGE. and that age is not brand-new-joker age. no need for an opinion there.

[GhostPoet]

There is no better person for the role. :) He can do dark funny and sinister all in one so well!

[jaguarr]

yes, these are forums. and we all have our opinions. but everytime someone shares their opinion n your beloved mr. williams, you have to come back tell tell them why they're wrong. WHEN IT'S THEIR OPINION.


Agreed. The inability to simply allow other people to have their opinions without the need to tell every single person who doesn't share his is rather tedious. Particularly since there's no real intellectual debate over it, it's just inane variations on "you're wrong" with an insult or two thrown in for good measure. Really unnecessary and undermines the entire thread and discussion as a whole.

jag

[Sasquatch]

I think Williams could do an acceptable job of the Joker but to me it would be Williams in makeup.

I don't know. I like him and respect his incredible acting ability but I just don't think he would be the right fit for this part.
I would have the same opinion of Jim Carrey.

I think the Joker should have that fresh/brand-spankin new feel. Raw and uncensored.

[Two-Face]

There is no better person for the role. :) He can do dark funny and sinister all in one so well!

Yes there are plenty of actors that do the job as well as Williams. Bettany, Eccleston, Hulme and Brody etc...:up:

[Mr. Thing]

Yes there are plenty of actors that do the job as well as Williams. Bettany, Eccleston, Hulme and Brody etc...:up:

Tennant. :o

[Two-Face]

Hahaha

I'm sorry I had to laugh...

[Mr. Thing]

Hahaha

I'm sorry I had to laugh...

That's what I'm like when Bettany's mentioned...oops, there gonna get me now aren't they? :o

[Doc Holliday]

Agreed. The inability to simply allow other people to have their opinions without the need to tell every single person who doesn't share his is rather tedious. Particularly since there's no real intellectual debate over it, it's just inane variations on "you're wrong" with an insult or two thrown in for good measure. Really unnecessary and undermines the entire thread and discussion as a whole.

jag

You put it so eloquently, I think I wet myself.

[Darth_Shaggy22]

i say the man perfect for the part is


CESAR ROMERO!!

oh wait =/


if robin williams is being considered why not david bowie? i mean he was considerd for the lord of the rings.

im open to seeing what williams can do. i say let all the actors in the race screen test and the fans pick the best one!!

[xxshady]

Well, Joker is always portrayed as a tall and thin person, and his face is supposed to have that long look, you cant change that by losing weight...unless robin williams can undergo surgery to change the structure of his face :)

[titan101]

Well, Joker is always portrayed as a tall and thin person, and his face is supposed to have that long look, you cant change that by losing weight...unless robin williams can undergo surgery to change the structure of his face :)lol

[xxshady]

lol

??? was that a "lol you dont know what your talking about" or a "lol true dat"

[titan101]

??? was that a "lol you dont know what your talking about" or a "lol true dat"an "lol true dat".

[xxshady]

an "lol true dat".

yay :)

[Bullseye]

Its not that I hate the idea of Robin being in another Batman film, its just that Batman Forever and Batman & Robin massively screwed up the character and thus not wanting to see Robin in a Bat-film for quite a long time.

[Speedball]

I thought this thread was for Robin WILLIAMS, not the character Robin.
Anyway- Robin would be awesome as the Joker, cause he pretty much is the Joker, just not all murderous.

[xwolverine2]

I thought this thread was for Robin WILLIAMS, not the character Robin.
Anyway- Robin would be awesome as the Joker, cause he pretty much is the Joker, just not all murderous.
he can be murderous

[bstringer]

yes, he certainly can. He is really great at dark humor. im sure he'd be perfect for the Joker role. Everyone keeps thinking that the Joker should be tall and thin, but Nicholson was basically the same size as Williams and he was perfect! i know Robin can be the perfect Joker.

[Two-Face]

yes, he certainly can. He is really great at dark humor. im sure he'd be perfect for the Joker role. Everyone keeps thinking that the Joker should be tall and thin, but Nicholson was basically the same size as Williams and he was perfect! i know Robin can be the perfect Joker.

That's the problerm, Nicholson stole show in Batman 89 and I don't want fat Joker sorry but Nicholson was fat at 54.

[El Payaso]

That's the problerm, Nicholson stole show in Batman 89 and I don't want fat Joker sorry but Nicholson was fat at 54.

So you have more troubles with Nicholson's overwhelming talent or his weight?

[Two-Face]

So you have more troubles with Nicholson's overwhelming talent or his weight?


I have no troubles with Nicholson's weight or his talent. I prefer Joker in comics or TAS you got problem with that?

[StorminNorman]

That's the problerm, Nicholson stole show in Batman 89.

Nicholson talent wasn't really the problem, it was a combination of Keaton being a poor Bruce Wayne (though good Batman), the skript having a poor Joker to Batman ratio. Of course his ability to steal the show only made the flaws more apparent.

[xwolverine2]

That's the problerm, Nicholson stole show in Batman 89 and I don't want fat Joker sorry but Nicholson was fat at 54.
so nicholson was TOO GOOD?:confused:

[xwolverine2]

I prefer Joker in comics or TAS you got problem with that?
nolan made it perfectly clear that this aint a cartoon

[StorminNorman]

I will say this, when I was looking after my cousin the other day I saw Robin Williams doing some show advertising for the movie RV. While he certainly is old, he was not exactly round. I have no doubt he could atleast loose enough weight to make a decent looking Joker. If only he could lose 20 years of age.

I like my Robin Williams looking like this:

http://www.tellytunes.com/wallpapers/mork_1024.jpg

[Two-Face]

nolan made it perfectly clear that this aint a cartoon




WTF?? I meant as the look of Joker tall skinny guy from comics and TAS.:mad:

Nolan and Goyer said comics were inspired them like B: Y1 or The Long Halloween etc…

[El Payaso]

I have no troubles with Nicholson's weight or his talent. I prefer Joker in comics or TAS you got problem with that?

Have I complained about TAS or comic Joker's talents, height or weight?

[HughJackFan420]

That Robin crack was definitely not funny.

And Williams might do well in the part, but it doesn't matter, cause Bettany's getting it. :)

i wish all these UK cats would get off Bettany's jewels sack cuz he would be a horrible Joker and no there is no confirmation he's getting the part. I doubt it would work. Sorry still haven't seen Paul Bettany in a movie where he speaks with an American accent.

Williams on the other hand has got the Joker hairline, more of a credible actor, has played both funny and psychotic parts, now if he can just get the Joker laugh right he's in there like swimwear.

:up: for Robin Williams

[StorminNorman]

i wish all these UK cats would get off Bettany's jewels sack cuz he would be a horrible Joker and no there is no confirmation he's getting the part. I doubt it would work. Sorry still haven't seen Paul Bettany in a movie where he speaks with an American accent.

Williams on the other hand has got the Joker hairline, more of a credible actor, has played both funny and psychotic parts, now if he can just get the Joker laugh right he's in there like swimwear.

:up: for Robin Williams

I will make this swift and painless:

1. I am not from the UK.
2. Bettany would be a fantastic Joker - just look at Gangster No. 1
3. Bettany has used an American accent in several films - actually he has two different ones telling me he has a knack for voice acting as well.
4. Williams is 20 years too old.
5. Bettany is just as credible an actor (he has oscar buzz for his role as Silas)
6. Bettany has played both funny and psychotic parts.
7. Swimwear makes my ass look big.

[HughJackFan420]

I will make this swift and painless:

1. I am not from the UK.
2. Bettany would be a fantastic Joker - just look at Gangster No. 1
3. Bettany has used an American accent in several films - actually he has two different ones telling me he has a knack for voice acting as well.
4. Williams is 20 years too old.
5. Bettany is just as credible an actor (he has oscar buzz for his role as Silas)
6. Bettany has played both funny and psychotic parts.
7. Swimwear makes my ass look big.

well maybe its just that i'm not stuck on his jewels sack like a genital wart then.

Oscar buzz?? not knocking Bettany but he just doesn't look he could take the Joker role by the horns like Robin could...

[Mr. Thing]

C'mon, Eccleston!

http://www.rts.org.uk/imglib/Eccleston_Christopher_pic.jpg

[StorminNorman]

well maybe its just that i'm not stuck on his jewels sack like a genital wart then.

Oscar buzz?? not knocking Bettany but he just doesn't look he could take the Joker role by the horns like Robin could...

Im not stuck on his jewel sack, I above them.

Have you seen any of his work?

[Joker831]

Robin Williams could definitly rule this role in his own sick dark funny way. We have seen it in One Hour Photo and Insomnia. Most people want a younger joker, i dont blame them...i kind of do too. But then some of the best choices to me are older...(Tim Roth, Williams, etc).

But here are two manips from someone on Batman-on-film. His signature is on the manips, so give him credit. I just loved them, figured id shed them over here for us.

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8159/24maniped4nd.jpg

[Boom]

Funny, because those pictures were posted here first, and they were made by bane.

[Joker831]

Oh lol, well whoever they were made by...i dunno. I just didnt wanna take credit for something i didnt do, so i figured id say where i got it from. Whoever did them....great job, shows Williams/Joker perfectly.

[Zilleraut #66]

I am going to assume you mean Jack :)

After Jack Nicholson and WB were having problems coming to terms for Nicholson to play the Joker WB started to open talks with Robin Williams. This led to Nicholson eventually signing with WB. Robin Williams ended up with bad feelings because he felt he was used by WB. WB wanted him for the Riddler role first, but Robin wouldnt sign until WB apologized....or atleast thats what I have heard.Didn't know that. He would have been so much better.

[Supreme Power]

so how many of you have i convinced?

http://www.*******.com/files/2006/6/19/77611/smileofdeath.gif

You got me. :eek: :up:

I don't think he's too old at all. In that case you could have said Nicholson was old from 89. He was perfect to me. :up:

[batman7289]

okay im taking back wut i say. robin williams could be a joker, but only if he took the role seriously, not cooky.

[batman7289]

Robin Williams could definitly rule this role in his own sick dark funny way. We have seen it in One Hour Photo and Insomnia. Most people want a younger joker, i dont blame them...i kind of do too. But then some of the best choices to me are older...(Tim Roth, Williams, etc).

But here are two manips from someone on Batman-on-film. His signature is on the manips, so give him credit. I just loved them, figured id shed them over here for us.

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8159/24maniped4nd.jpg
GREAT MANIPS

[Cinemaman]

No, he is still for me none-Joker.

There are better actors for this role with better haircut.

[xwolverine2]

Williams is famous for his Jack Nicholson impression, but he suspects Nolan would be looking for a new take. "Well, you want to do a different Joker. You know, if they do Arkham Asylum, it would be amazing. Arkham Asylum is one of the greatest, nastiest comic books ever. It's truly, it's like the Marquee de Sade on that level, and wonderfully damaged and quite tragic, in terms of when you realize [what happened to] create these characters..."
^from ign.

hes aware of the jack nich. thing......and knows nolan doesnt want it,so he can play it differently

[FVD]

I like Robin Williams but as the Joker no.

[GoldGoblin]

Robin Williams shouldn't be a Batman villain in these movies.

[theShape]

the truth is that as much as you may want him to be cast, in the end, he will not be. you know he won't be. so it's really a lost cause.

[Capt Throbberson]

I'd rather have him than Bettany

That doesn't mean I want him as the joker though

[xwolverine2]

the truth is that as much as you may want him to be cast, in the end, he will not be. you know he won't be. so it's really a lost cause.
well see........

we have no idea who will or will not be cast.....so dont jump to conclusions

[Superman4ever]

He knows the mythology, I'll give you that, but I can't see him as the Joker.

[Superman4ever]

C'mon, Eccleston!

http://www.rts.org.uk/imglib/Eccleston_Christopher_pic.jpg

Agreed times infinity! :)

[batman7289]

if bettany is cast for the joker i think everyone should boycott the film .
jackie chan would make a better joker

[Two-Face]

if bettany is cast for the joker i think everyone should boycott the film .
jackie chan would make a better joker



That's TOO far "boycott the film"?? WTF??? I'm sorry I tried to respect your opinion but this going too far.:down :(

[CConn]

http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/1408/joke2ob.jpgWow. That is really ****ed up.

[bstringer]

I REAALLY WANT WILLIAMS FOR JOKER! I know he can do it perfectly.

[Mr. Thing]

Agreed times infinity! :)

:up: