Lationo Review reviews Wolverine script

[Celestial]

http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=26
It has lots of spoilers.
David Benioff is a very good writer and he did his homework and earned his paycheck. He found a way to balance and make the comic and movie counterparts tie in together in an organic way. I’m sure the lot of you won’t be disappointed. As long as the script is there and it’s on the page (which it is), the studio has a blueprint to make a successful film, whether 2007 or 2008. So don’t worry it won’t be rushed. So all you anti-Tom Rothman fans get off his nut sack, he did a good thing by getting himself a top-notch writer who delivered.

[WalkingDead]

Interesting...heh.
Bone Claws and such.

[Syncos]

Looks as though they're not showing the rest of Weapon X, only Logan. :S

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, its a certainty that Fox will **** this up somehow, so there is no point looking forward to it.

[Avalanche]

Contrary to popular belief, FOX don't screw up every film they get their hands on. I've enjoyed many a FOX film.

[Red X]

3 Things

They need Brian Cox back as Styrker
Cast a convincing actor as Victor Creed
And would it hurt for a mention of a private Wade Wilson.

[Celestial]

Is there any chance people could leave their discontent with X3 in the X3 forum? Judge this project on its own merits?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Is there any chance people could leave their discontent with X3 in the X3 forum? Judge this project on its own merits?

Why when its the exact same studio developing it. I doubt they will have learned from their mistakes.

[Jan Irisi]

That opening has me a bit...befuddled. High schoolers? Father robbed a local truck stop? It has me befuddled because the age thing seems all off.

[ultimatefan]

Well, I was hoping for his youth to be more like Origin... Hmmm, budget issues? Well, it´s good to know it borrows heavily from Weapon X, THANK GOD it´s being scheduled for 2008 instead of 2007 and even it it´s shorter than two hours, since we got a lot of Wolvie in the X-Men movies and it´s only one major character, the screening time probably won´t affect it as much as it did X3.

[Aiden]

It sounds violent. Which is a good thing.

[Red X]

When's a lumberjack he better wear one of those red checkered shirts.

[Retroman]

I'm pleasantly surprised by this review. The only thing i really dislike are the bone claws thing. Couldn't they leave that out?And where is Omega Red?

Beak is a fairly new character i'm surprised they're adding him to the Wolvie movie.

[Red X]

If you take an educated guess we can assume that Creed will be working for Stryker as a means of drawing Logan in so he can be used as a weapon to hunt down mutants.

[danoyse]

When's a lumberjack he better wear one of those red checkered shirts.

Too many Monty Python references, too little time... :p

OK, I skimmed that really fast...I'm trying to avoid spoilers this time around, but curiousity got the best of me. Sounds interesting.

And people need to let go of the Fox hate like X3 is the only movie they've ever done.

[squeekness]

Do we know that the script that was reviewed is authentic? Didn't we run into this same problem with X3?

[Avalanche]

Beak is a fairly new character i'm surprised they're adding him to the Wolvie movie.
He's only a cameo though isn't he? He gets killed off early on.

[Avalanche]

Do we know that the script that was reviewed is authentic? Didn't we run into this same problem with X3?
The first X3 script review was by AICN wasn't it? And that turned out to be very much authentic, despite claims that the movie had completely changed.

Latino Review has got hold of clips in the past. I see no reason why they couldn't get a script.

[Avalanche]

A few plot points I didn't like.

First, Wolverine being bullied as a child. Blah. Why do superheroes always have to be bullied as a child. Spiderman was bullied at school in the films. Daredevil was bullied. It's a stale plot point, and I don't appreciate it being present.

I don't much care for the death of a loved one at the hands of an arch nemesis either. Again, it's a little stale. We've seen it a thousand times before in varying films.

Niggling, generic plot points aside, I think the script had a good feel to it. I really hope they ditch the aspects mentioned however. I don't expect the movie to break new ground, but it could at least try to be something a little fresh.

[danoyse]

I love the sequence in Origin where he popped the claws in the bedroom for the first time, so I'm a bit bummed that they're going in a different route here.

However, and again, I skimmed the review really fast...it does sound pretty good. Looks like they're taking off from "If you only knew about your past, the work we did together..." scene in X2.

And I hope they get Brian Cox back as Styker...he sounds like he's going be deliciously evil in this. :up:

[Mr.Dent]

I'm glad the script got a good review...But the bone claws and absence of Omega Red leave me bummed. God I hope Brian Cox comes back though.

[Avalanche]

Why does everyone dislike the bone claws so much? I'm not up on my comics.

[lordofthenerds]

Sounds good to me. Finally Blob is in a movie. :up:

[Pauluz]

It SUCKS! High schoolers? What the hell happened to the Origin story? Beak can **** off and so can Blob. I'm pissed!

[MJayX]

after seeing superman returns - i can't be mad at fox anymore

hoping this kicks some serious ass

[_BB_]

I was hoping to see the origin story, not something about high schoolers...:(

Rest of it sounds really good though, cant wait to find out the truth behind strykers plans for wolverine because X2 Stryker doesnt really seem as concerned towards mutants as he appears in this script...

[EnSabahNur]

This script sucks.... Uggh I don't like how they make Sabretooth a "Mutant" killer. I don't think that Worthington labs is worried about Mutants as of now. Or else Magneto would have had plans to destroy the industry earlier on, not durring the point in time that X3 is held. Plus Sabretooth is a mutant so why would he be atacking his kind? And in both X2 and X3 there is references made that Wolverine recieved his claws "You were allways an animal, I just gave you claws" "I was fighting for this befor you had claws." those two lines (which are allmost identicle to what was said in the movies) would make the people believe taht Wolverine never had Claws befor his weapon X experience. Allthough Bone claws are from his origion, I would rather see them not included (just his healing factor). Plus that hole scene where Sabretooth "crushes" wolverines claws is stupid.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

This script sucks.... Uggh I don't like how they make Sabretooth a "Mutant" killer. I don't think that Worthington labs is worried about Mutants as of now. Or else Magneto would have had plans to destroy the industry earlier on, not durring the point in time that X3 is held. Plus Sabretooth is a mutant so why would he be atacking his kind? And in both X2 and X3 there is references made that Wolverine recieved his claws "You were allways an animal, I just gave you claws" "I was fighting for this befor you had claws." those two lines (which are allmost identicle to what was said in the movies) would make the people believe taht Wolverine never had Claws befor his weapon X experience. Allthough Bone claws are from his origion, I would rather see them not included (just his healing factor). Plus that hole scene where Sabretooth "crushes" wolverines claws is stupid.

I agree about the claws bit, I don't like the bone claws.

The rest of it though isn't too bad.

[Electrix]

They need to get Brian Cox back. It will hurt the movie if not. People will need to see another familiar face.

[Hunter Rider]

I LOVE the sound of the script:up: now we just need a good director:)

[Hunter Rider]

I'm pleasantly surprised by this review. The only thing i really dislike are the bone claws thing. Couldn't they leave that out?And where is Omega Red?

Beak is a fairly new character i'm surprised they're adding him to the Wolvie movie.

Omega Red's absence was the only thing that bothered me,i thought they said it would include a character the purposely left our of X3:confused:

[The Comedian]

Do we know that the script that was reviewed is authentic? Didn't we run into this same problem with X3?

Ys but AICN's credibility isn't very good. Latino Review is one of the most credible and reliable movie sites on the web, and when they get a script, it's the real thing.

[The Comedian]

Omega Red's absence was the only thing that bothered me,i thought they said it would include a character the purposely left our of X3:confused:

Maybe they meant blob? The script review said he's in

[tamron]

All in all, it sounds like a good script.

But I must admit I'm quite dismayed that it seems my absolute favorite X-character, Maverick/Agent Zero is getting tweaked. He seems to be a mere thug in the film, and he's really much more interesting than that.

[Abaddon]

Blob does not have a part in Wolverine's origin.:down

[Majik1387]

Why does everyone hate the bone claw thing. I'm happy they are actually using what is in the comics. It's not like they're introducing the character X-23 as a daughter or anything like that.

[Infinity9999x]

A few plot points I didn't like.


I don't much care for the death of a loved one at the hands of an arch nemesis either. Again, it's a little stale. We've seen it a thousand times before in varying films.



Well, that is a part taken straight from comic lore. Sabertooth did kill one of Wolverine's loved ones....at least until they brought silver fox back again....only to have Sabertooth kill her....again, that got a little confusing. I always liked it better when she died in the past, because that was such a kickass issue and one of the sweetest Wolverine Sabertooth fights. Anyways, the point being, it's in his history, it's not like the studio threw it in there for the hell of it.

[ShadowBoxing]

Ug overblown and overdone like X3. They should just do the Weapon X saga more or less the same with Stryker instead of the Professor. The script sounds convoluted and full of unnecessary cameos that probably add nothing to the story.

[FaT_tONle]

.... damn I am disappointed... I thought we'd be getting some Cold War special ops top secret weapons X project and we get a bunch of high schoolers... I know they wanted to keep it realistic but this is a real downer... who'se the character that was supposed to be in x3??? Blob??? Give me a break... no Omega is a huge downer... hopefully this is false stuff...

[FaT_tONle]

.... damn I am disappointed... I thought we'd be getting some Cold War special ops top secret weapons X project and we get a bunch of high schoolers... I know they wanted to keep it realistic but this is a real downer... who'se the character that was supposed to be in x3??? Blob??? Give me a break... no Omega is a huge downer... hopefully this is false stuff...

[dr venture]

I thought it was pretty good

[Angamb]

but is striker in the script?

[The Comedian]

yes he is

[newwaveboy87]

the review focused ONLY on the first act and the skimmed through parts of the second and third. and by skimmed i mean, mentioned them only in passing to prevent spoilers for the film.

read the whole article would you please?

[FaT_tONle]

the review focused ONLY on the first act and the skimmed through parts of the second and third. and by skimmed i mean, mentioned them only in passing to prevent spoilers for the film.

read the whole article would you please?

THis is at least the first half of the film... I just don't want to see a whole one versus one hunting mutants movie... Stryker hiring a team to hunt down mutants is a good plot and all, but... just not what I was looking for... what are these lists first of all??? Is Sabertooth working for the U.S government??? That's pretty lame... I hope there is a lot more too this... I know Sliver Fox was an important love interest... (wouldn't be suprised if she came back at the end) but no Japan (Deathstyke or Mariko)? No Omega Red? Yeah they said there were more mutants (but I think those are just low key mutants on Stryker's hit list)... I am certainly not banking on a trilogy so yeah this is disappointing... I'll still love it though... Wolverine is my second favorite next to Batman...

[newwaveboy87]

the review said something along the lines of "So ends act 1."
the review mostly focuses on Act 1 and went REALLY in depth into it.

[Kmack]

Do we know that the script that was reviewed is authentic? Didn't we run into this same problem with X3?
Yes, and we know how awesome that movie was. *sarcasm*:o

[newwaveboy87]

you didn't like X3 Kmack?

[muscaremy]

seriously some of you people need to read it again....its only the FIRST ACT....thers still plenty more....Omega Red could be in there..... as well as the war stuff...it did say he would be in Nam sooo read again

[FaT_tONle]

seriously some of you people need to read it again....its only the FIRST ACT....thers still plenty more....Omega Red could be in there..... as well as the war stuff...it did say he would be in Nam sooo read again

After reading this... I think Strker just makes a team that goes hunting for mutants... prolly Maverick, Wraith, and maybe deathstryke (I hope)... but who the hell will they be hunting??? Mutants with four arms??? The Blob??? it just don't float my boat... and I am wondering why Creed goes on a killing spree in the first place... don't know why the script never explained that... and Omega Red does not fit this plot... it isn't too much of a suprise considering what Beinoff wanted... but I thought he was crucial...

[newwaveboy87]

Blob is apart of the Weapon X program. so the guy with four arms....what was his name again? Wraith was also apart of the program. Sabretooth will probably be revealed to be in it, and Silver Fox is dead.

i hope they include Maverick and Deathstrike somehow.

[FaT_tONle]

Blob is apart of the Weapon X program. so the guy with four arms....what was his name again? Wraith was also apart of the program. Sabretooth will probably be revealed to be in it, and Silver Fox is dead.

i hope they include Maverick and Deathstrike somehow.

As I said before though... if this is a team that just has to hunt down average mutants... I'll be ****ing pissed... I don't know where Sabertooth fits into this plot and weapons X other than the personal fued with Logan... hopefully that is not Creed's only role... I'll just wait and see what motives Stryker has... again I am just hoping Omega is on the hitlist but it's a stretch... besides... I liked it better twhen Creed was originally part of team X until he went beserk and killed everyone off (the way it really happened)... besides... Sliverfox ain't no ****ing fourth grade teacher... what a waste of a character...

[Abaddon]

I just realized Latino is misspelled.




And once again,Blob has no place in this movie.

[newwaveboy87]

true...but we also don't know their function.
the review ends at the end of the first act and glosses over the rest of it.

there's a lot of "?????"-inducing things left to be answered.
the hype begins!!

[YJ1]

so the guy with four arms....what was his name again?

Barbarus - A four-armed mutant with physical strength, endurance, and injury resistant powers.

Put me in the HATE the bone claws category but I'm not going to turn in to a whinny fanboy about it.

I can't believe people are whinning already that Blob may be a part of Weapon X or the Silverfox is a teacher. Who cares? Despite the God awful bone claws, that partial script review was pretty damn good.

[FaT_tONle]

I just realized Latino is misspelled.




And once again,Blob has no place in this movie.

ROFL... same here... only after I read this though... will be interesting to see what happens... ACt 2 has most of the answers... I am just confused about these lists and everything... hopefully things will be clarified sooner than later...

[tamron]

i hope they include Maverick and Deathstrike somehow.

Maverick is in it.

Maverick = Agent Zero.

[FaT_tONle]

Barbarus - A four-armed mutant with physical strength, endurance, and injury resistant powers.

Put me in the HATE the bone claws category but I'm not going to turn in to a whinny fanboy about it.

I can't believe people are whinning already that Blob may be a part of Weapon X or the Silverfox is a teacher. Who cares? Despite the God awful bone claws, that partial script review was pretty damn good.

It should have been Mariko or some *****... w/e that don't bother me too much... but if death stryke ain't in either there will be hell to pay... I am confident she's in but not a hundred percent sure now that characters like the Blob may take their places...

[newwaveboy87]

Maverick is in it.

Maverick = Agent Zero.
OMG!
how could i forget that!?

*whips self like the priest did back in the day*

[Abaddon]

there's no place for Deathstrike.

[newwaveboy87]

has no one read the prequel to the first X-Men movie starring Wolverine?
after running away from the Weapon X building he runs into an asian woman who says he name is Yuriko and that she has been kidnapped by a man, she's speaking in Japanese the whole. Wolverine talks to her and helps escape, and realizes that he knows how to speak Japanese, but doesn't remember ever having spoke it before.

[FaT_tONle]

There is a lot I like about this flick:

1. The fact that Creed was responsible for the death of Logan's first love
2. How Stryker manipulates Logan to join the program
3. THe fact that there is an actual Weapons X with a team being put together for specific missions....

It's just not the right mix of characters in my book... the only thing that works so far is Logan vs Creed... I know this is only preliminary but I hope this isn't set in stone... Robin's Premise plot had all the ingredients we were looking for... sorry to say that won't be the case...

[FaT_tONle]

there's no place for Deathstrike.


Exactly... such a waste to see her on screen for just one action scene that kicked ass... I think there is still a shot she is in the program though...

[TNC9852002]

I really liked where the script is going...It could turn out well if they don't get bogged down with money and time and cut a whole lot of good crap out..

I wonder if they're gonna digitally age/de-age Hugh and/or Tyler Mane or whoever's playing Victor Creed a little..

-TNC

[Avalanche]

Exactly... such a waste to see her on screen for just one action scene that kicked ass... I think there is still a shot she is in the program though...
X2 implied Deathstrike had only recently been experimented on.

"I used to think you were one of a kind Wolverine."

Then he found Deathstrike.

X2 didn't leave any room for Deathstrike in a prequel in my opinion.

[Avalanche]

I wonder if they're gonna digitally age/de-age Hugh and/or Tyler Mane or whoever's playing Victor Creed a little..

-TNC
I doubt it. Wolverine's healing abilities are an excuse to have him look the same as he did in the movies. His age was described as impossible to determine, so I think they'll keep Wolverine looking the same.

Stryker is going to need some serious de-aging however. I wonder whether Brian Cox will even play him for this reason?

[Loganbabe]

I always liked the idea of Stryker being in this movie, so I´m glad. And Brian Cox MUST play him, de-aged or not. The guy rocks playing bad guys! :D
As for the bone claws thing, I don´t know what to think. I love Origin, but I understand that telling the whole story in the first Wolverine solo movie would be impossible (Origin deserves a movie of its own), and showing just a small Origin scene would waste away a very good and meaningful story. So I guess they decided for this "high schoolers intro scene", which is a nod to Origin without messing with it. But if it´s impossible to show the Origin version, maybe they should have left the bone claws out of the picture...
But, bone claws or not, I really sense a lot of potential for a great movie...so far so good! :):up:

[Infinity9999x]

I'm still on the fence about the highschooler's thing. I mean, it's really not a nod to Origin, it's a new Origin. Meaning that Wolverine is much, much younger then his comic counterpart. Well....unless they have them be football players in the early 1900's, but I didn't get that vibe.

Really, I think they could have shown a brief flashback secene from Origin, showing him as a kid gutting old man Logan. It would still serve to show us he had claws, and it would still give us mystery, then, throughout the next few Wolverine movies, we could get flashbacks of Origin. Kind of tell two stories throughout the movies, like Holes. I really want to see Origin on the bigscreen, just because I think it's a great story.

[boywonder13]

"In the 1st four pages we meet Logan as a 12 yr old boy, undersized and feral on a rural road on his way home from school. I couldn’t help stop thinking of feral kid from the Mad Max films. But anyway 4 towering high school football players pick him on. They pick on him because Logan’s dad robbed the local truck stop last year. Logan doesn’t back down as GILMAN punches Logan in the face twice. The gash on Logan’s face heals itself in front of Gilman and Logan goes into an inhuman rage and beats the **** out of the football players. Three bone claws spring from Logan’s hand, serrated and razor sharp as he goes in to finish Gilman. This is the first time that Logan’s bone claws appear to him and he is shocked more than his attackers. The football players’ escape alive and Logan looks at his bone claws and screams out…"
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I want a more dramatic scene of him first usiing his claws!!! :(

[ang_hulk]

no bone claws.blobs cool,hes a friend of wolverines,I hope they go there seperate ways though.This films good ammo for x4.the only thing that will stop this movie from being somewhat cool is recasts.

[Seen]

I'm glad the script is satisfactory. All we need now is a good director. And please, FOX -- not Ratner. Hell, I'd even let someone like David Hayter take a shot at the director's chair.

[hutch007]

well i like where this story is heading. just really hoping the action is awesome and the rest is a great, powerful movie. maybe a motorcycle chase or something. that would be incredible... plus we need a better fight between logan and creed then the one in x1. for a director... someone really dark, would say david fincher but he gave up on fox.

[Kent]

Wolverine's youth not like in "Origin"? Booooooh! :down

[Darthkush]

I don't see anything really all that bothersome about this script, people. It sounds pretty dang cool to me actually.

- Why did so many people think Omega Red was gonna be in this? NOBODY in the production team ever said that. Omega Red was listed as being in X3 because they needed a name for a mutant extra and that's probably all. I'm betting Blob was the "character intentionally left out of X3 for the wolverine movie" the entire time.

-what in the world is wrong with having the bone claws in the film? I think it's a good thing. Now non comic readers will stop thinking he had them implanted. It's not as annoying as how so many of them believe the Joker killed Batman's parents but it could become as bad if it's not dealt with.

-I'm ecstatic that so many characters that SHOULD be in the movie are. Silverfox, Sabretooth, Wraith, Agent Zero. Stryker i'm excited about(but only if Cox returns. Without him, i'm not sure Stryker will work as well). I would love it if Deatstrike showed up but i'm not holding my breath for it. I'd also love it if Tyler Mane got another shot at playing Sabretooth. I think he wasn't given a fair chance to make an impression in X1.

[neemer5]

A couple of things:

Don't bash the potential of this film until you see it! Someone said they wouldn't even bother reading the script because Fox is producing it. Yeah they messed up X3, but they nailed X2, and that dealt more with Wolvie's back-story than any of the other films.

As for the bone claws... it's good to have some continuity.

For Weapon X and Omega Red... This is only the first act, and these aspects can be explored later as a setup for possible sequels.

Overall, I really liked the script. But it can only be pulled off if it is an R-Rated film. There's no way they can show this level of violence with a PG-13 and make it effective.

It has a very blue-collar, working class, gritty vibe to it, which is perfect if you have the right director. It will bomb with the wrong one though. This is not a heavily stylized/CGI'd film. There aren't mutants with flashy powers, but more hand-to-hand combat, which I prefer. For that reason, I think if they somehow manage to get Christopher Nolan (Insomnia, Batman Returns), Michael Figgis (Leaving Las Vegas), Paul Greengrass (Bourne Supremacy), or Danny Boyle (28 Days Later), this film WILL work, and work well.

It sorta reminded me of Walking Tall for some reason.

[DarknessOfDeath]

okay... I just realized something ... bone claws makes sense to me... I mean they have to be bone claws. right? I mean how the heck can you have steel claws in the first place? So basically... he was born with bone claws...and then later on while he was being experimented on, he was given steel claws...right?

Which would hurt more? Bone or Steel? ... Probably bone...cause bone is a part of your skeleton...but I wonder how the heck do they replace the bone claws with the steel claws...it sends shivers down my spine and it also gives me goosebumps just thinking about it...

anyway... the movie sounds interesting...but I'm still not sure if I want to see it...maybe if it has Jean as a cameo...perhaps. :p lol

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

I really liked where the script is going...It could turn out well if they don't get bogged down with money and time and cut a whole lot of good crap out..

I wonder if they're gonna digitally age/de-age Hugh and/or Tyler Mane or whoever's playing Victor Creed a little..

-TNC
I doubt it. It's not like he is covered in wrinkles. If anything they might just put some makeup on, but I would doubt that too.
As far as the script I only read a couple of paragraphs, but it sounds really, hopefully they can pull this off. I knew they would add the bone claws, I didnt read the end of it or anything, but I think it would be cool if the last scene was of after he gets his adamantium, and first sees his claws and is in shock and all. I think that would be a nice touch, to link it to the beginning of the movie from when he is a kid.:)

[FaT_tONle]

I don't see anything really all that bothersome about this script, people. It sounds pretty dang cool to me actually.

- Why did so many people think Omega Red was gonna be in this? NOBODY in the production team ever said that. Omega Red was listed as being in X3 because they needed a name for a mutant extra and that's probably all. I'm betting Blob was the "character intentionally left out of X3 for the wolverine movie" the entire time.

-what in the world is wrong with having the bone claws in the film? I think it's a good thing. Now non comic readers will stop thinking he had them implanted. It's not as annoying as how so many of them believe the Joker killed Batman's parents but it could become as bad if it's not dealt with.

-I'm ecstatic that so many characters that SHOULD be in the movie are. Silverfox, Sabretooth, Wraith, Agent Zero. Stryker i'm excited about(but only if Cox returns. Without him, i'm not sure Stryker will work as well). I would love it if Deatstrike showed up but i'm not holding my breath for it. I'd also love it if Tyler Mane got another shot at playing Sabretooth. I think he wasn't given a fair chance to make an impression in X1.

Eh... I guess your right... I'm just pissed my favorite X-men villain will be left out of this flick... I'm not banking on sequels so I am disappointed... but with the origin story altered... with Creed/Logan's past altered, with no references to Wolverine and Japan's background.... I think it's still flat... I will just wait to see what direction they go in the second act... but after reading this... I certainly ain't optimistic... Blob as the supposed villain in X3 appearing here is just a disgrace... I really thought it would be Omega... but life moves on...

[tecnowraith]

Too me they should really do the "offical" wolverine origin of the 19th century instead from this. Doing WW 1 and 2 arc, I am not sure if they can to have connection with Nick Fury and Captain America so them doing Vietnam War could be a reason (since he was there, no problem there). Marvel should put ther foot down on this and say do this or else, rights gets pulled.

[Sasquatch]

Barbarus - A four-armed mutant with physical strength, endurance, and injury resistant powers.

Until he ran into Colossus' fist.

Speaking of him... do ya think they'll have a REALLY young Colossus in the Wolvie film.... just so he can do a fastball?
We all know how that just MADE X3.

[ISHMAEL]

3 Things

They need Brian Cox back as Styrker
Cast a convincing actor as Victor Creed
And would it hurt for a mention of a private Wade Wilson.

bring in deadpool !!

[Rac]

Hmm, don't like the opening. 1800th/1900th century Origin is better. They make him now too young. (Though I think they made him too old in comics.) Also this loved one thingie. Dunno. Don't like it for now. I did never like Beak so Victor killing him is good. Although we don't need Beak in Wolverine (or any X-movie). Never liked Blob either...

We'll just need to wait and see.

[Psylocke8]

I want Lady Deathstrike!!!!!

[Jan Irisi]

Hmm, don't like the opening. 1800th/1900th century Origin is better. They make him now too young. (Though I think they made him too old in comics.) Also this loved one thingie. Dunno. Don't like it for now. I did never like Beak so Victor killing him is good. Although we don't need Beak in Wolverine (or any X-movie). Never liked Blob either...

We'll just need to wait and see.


Yeah, I would have liked a 19th century beginning myself. This whole "being bullied by the high school football team" thing is too much like.....Forrest Gump or something.

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I would have liked a 19th century beginning myself. This whole "being bullied by the high school football team" thing is too much like.....Forrest Gump or something.That whole "Football team beating him up" has to be the single dumbest thing I have ever heard as an X-Men plot idea. I may see the film just to laugh through that scene.

[newwaveboy87]

i really hope that intro scene gets rewritten as something more interesting and less Forrest Gump-ish.

[Jan Irisi]

That whole "Football team beating him up" has to be the single dumbest thing I have ever heard as an X-Men plot idea. I may see the film just to laugh through that scene.

The rest of the "review" was...ok, I guess. But that one scene made the hair on the back of my neck bristle. It just sounded so off to me.

Maybe I will put "No High School Football team bullies for Wolverine!!!!" in my sig, if I ever bother to put another one in.

[Sentinel X]

Its just away for them to show that wolvie was a mutie long before weapon x. I dont think its too bad..I dont know how you all are imagining it but iit could be great, or my a car accident would be good...I dont know, but I like the idea.

[Bishop2]

I'm a little baffled as to Stryker's line about how "You were always an animal, I just gave you claws" if they're going with the "bone claws" in this script. :confused:

Still, sounds like Wolverine 4 is in a good place for the most part.

[TheVileOne]

okay... I just realized something ... bone claws makes sense to me... I mean they have to be bone claws. right? I mean how the heck can you have steel claws in the first place? So basically... he was born with bone claws...and then later on while he was being experimented on, he was given steel claws...right?

Which would hurt more? Bone or Steel? ... Probably bone...cause bone is a part of your skeleton...but I wonder how the heck do they replace the bone claws with the steel claws...it sends shivers down my spine and it also gives me goosebumps just thinking about it...

anyway... the movie sounds interesting...but I'm still not sure if I want to see it...maybe if it has Jean as a cameo...perhaps. :p lol

Her name is Lady Deathstryke. She was in X-men 2.

Stryker said he was the one that gave Wolverine claws.

I always believed that the bone claws were a stupid plot device.

Plus, in the movies, the claws are THIN and FLAT sided. So they can't be the bone ones as far as I'm concerned.

[Eros]

Well i think they should of went with the wolverine and weapon X movie.
The movie would be inspired by spy and action films from the 1960s, such as the James Bond films and Metal Gear solid 3.

In 1967 during the cold war, members of the "super-soldier" C.I.A. covert Team [named Team X] are aboard an MC-130 Combat Talon flying over Tselinoyarsk, Russia. Team X unit commander named Stryker briefs the operatives on the mission they face. The Team X members include SilverFox,Sabertooth,Matsodon,Krestel,Maverick and their team leader Logan codenamed "Wolverine". They are to enter a secret Russian research facility and retrieve an defected Russian scientist, who was returned to the Soviets as part of a secret bargain years earlier.
The soviet faction is useing him and others to construst a powerful Weapon. A weapon that will turn the cold war into another Warld War. They also must recover Team Alpha, another super team that disapeared while trying to to save the scientist months earlier.They are informed the leader of the soviet group holding the scientist is a Russian super-mutant named Omega-Red. The operatives, execute the world's first HALO jump into enemy territory.

As the movie unfolds, they team encounters many dificulties,including rogue GRU factions who want the scientists for themselves. They also must deal with betrayal, when Sabertooth and SilverFox have apprently sold them out to join up with Omega-Red and the Soviets. Logan must find away to keep him and his remaining team alive, while combating the defacted Team Alpha, who have joined up with the Omega-Red as well. with time running out, Wolverine and his remaining team uncover many soviet secrets, and find out they may have been set on a sucide misson buy the C.I.A. The film essentially would build on the ideas of war, love, death, and betrayal - all of which become more apparent as the story moves forward and many secrets are uncovered.

[Silent_Assassin]

Well it sounds alright so far, but I must agree that I hate the idea of the highschool bullying!

[Supreme Power]

Maybe I missed something but where did it say that Omega Red wasn't in. :confused: This isn't the whole script. Seeing as how the high school part probably won't last long, and he kicks the crap out of them anyway, I don't care.
On to the Weapon X beginnings.

Sounding good so far to me. :cool: :up:

[Bishop2]

I'm a little confused by that opening sequence anyway. When does it take place again? I mean, I thought Logan was supposed to be seriously old.

[FaT_tONle]

I'm a little confused by that opening sequence anyway. When does it take place again? I mean, I thought Logan was supposed to be seriously old.

prolly the footbal seen happens in the 50's or 60's... but that don't make sense considering the origin story... it's a stupid idea since it doesn't follow the comics one bit but I could care less about this aspect anyways...

[tecnowraith]

David Benioff is a very good writer and he did his homework and earned his paycheck. He found a way to balance and make the comic and movie counterparts tie in together in an organic way.

He did not do his homework with that opening scene, he should be older. This not an organic way!

[Red X]

You guys realise the same guy who reviewed this reviewed the Fog script and said it rocked :confused:

[tamron]

You guys realise the same guy who reviewed this reviewed the Fog script and said it rocked :confused:

He liked that horrendous GI Joe script with no Cobra Commander featuring some new character named Rex who gets kidnapped by Destro and turned into a Serpentor knockoff named simply 'Cobra'. It sounded dumb as hell, and he ate that garbage up, giving it an A. He also gave the Iron Man script with Howard Stark as the villian a B.

So I would definitely agree El Mayimbe's opinion is suspect.

[borinquenknight]

.... damn I am disappointed... I thought we'd be getting some Cold War special ops top secret weapons X project and we get a bunch of high schoolers... I know they wanted to keep it realistic but this is a real downer... who'se the character that was supposed to be in x3??? Blob??? Give me a break... no Omega is a huge downer... hopefully this is false stuff...

I was hoping to see some Cold War Action myself. Oh well, hopefully they'll do better than Daredevil or Punisher.

[Postman]

i want to avoid spoilers but i want to know who will be the villain or villains in the script.

[TheVileOne]

Origins places Wolverine's birth in the late 1890's.

I think the bone claws idea is stupid. The movies seem to reflect that his claws can't be bone since they are flat-sided. I imagine bone claws would NOT look like that.

[Pauluz]

Well, what if Stryker decided to 'grind' the bones to a more suitable size. Making the adamantium claws fit.

[Lil_Flip246]

I hope it's a good movie.. Since Sabretooth is in the script..Will the same actor reprise his role?

[newwaveboy87]

he did sign a contract for three films. Fox could option his contract still.
i think they could anyway...

[echostation]

no they should choose another wrestler to play him... that would be a commendable idea... get Hulk Hogan

[Heybub]

Let me Keep this direct and concise as possibe - I am preetty damned angry after reading trhe details of this script. This script breaks EVERY single rule so far set by comic book movies of staying true and faithful to the comic book counterparts, I don't think a comic character's movie origin has been changed so drastically from the source till now(perhaps Howard The Duck?).

[Heybub]

Let me Keep this direct and concise as possibe - I am pretty damned angry after reading the details of this script. This script breaks EVERY single rule so far set by comic book movies of staying true and faithful to the comic book counterparts, I don't think a comic character's movie origin has been changed so drastically from the source till now(perhaps Howard The Duck?).
First as has been mentioned the timeline glitch is unnerving as all hell but nobody seems to catch the most glaring outrage which completely cripples the Woilverine character's core essence: HE FRICKIN' VOLUNTEERS FOR THE WEAPON X PROCEDURE! This defeats the entire tragedy and inner turmoil of Logan as a character, being captured against his will and tortured is what makes Wolverine who he is, take that away and you have nothing but a cheezy revenge film with an A-Hole for a lead. I can proclaim that I am a true Wolverine fan they don't come much bigger, and this rape of my favorite fictional character is criminal, Spider-Man decapitating bank robbers in the third movie criminal.

[FaT_tONle]

I am not a big fan of the script either... screwed up the origin... have some pretty lame mutants... but what bothers me is that my favorite villains have been left out... hopefully it turns for the better though...

[chaseter]

Well, what if Stryker decided to 'grind' the bones to a more suitable size. Making the adamantium claws fit.
They would regenerate and is therefore not plausible.

[danoyse]

nobody seems to catch the most glaring outrage which completely cripples the Woilverine character's core essence: HE FRICKIN' VOLUNTEERS FOR THE WEAPON X PROCEDURE!

But in X2, Stryker does say that he volunteered for it. If they're keeping the storyline of the movies, it fits...although yes, he could have been lying.

This defeats the entire tragedy and inner turmoil of Logan as a character, being captured against his will and tortured is what makes Wolverine who he is,

Ehhhh...don't be so quick to judge that. From what I read, he volunteered so he could get Sabertooth. Stryker's plan seems a lot different from what he's promising Logan.

take that away and you have nothing but a cheezy revenge film with an A-Hole for a lead.

I'll ignore that last comment. :mad:

I can proclaim that I am a true Wolverine fan they don't come much bigger, and this rape of my favorite fictional character is criminal, Spider-Man decapitating bank robbers in the third movie criminal.

I'll ignore the rape comments too. :mad:

And Spiderman 3 spoilers, if that's what that was. :mad:

Relax..it's a review of the first act of a script for a movie that doesn't even have director or a release date yet. It's way early to be slitting your wrists over it yet.

[hitpehoaos]

yeh i dont think it is legit

[hitpehoaos]

yeh i dont think it is legit

[TheCardPlayer]

It is legit. Since when did LatinoReview lie?

[xwolverine2]

so who hates the script???

its perfect!... what the **** more could it have?

[xwolverine2]

I want Lady Deathstrike!!!!!
we already had her

[TheCardPlayer]

All it needs is Omega Red and it's a perfect script for a Wolverine film. Can't wait for the movie.

[xwolverine2]

All it needs is Omega Red and it's a perfect script for a Wolverine film. Can't wait for the movie.
that would be cool too.

but is that the only prob.?...your not getting a character you want?:confused:

[hutch007]

that would be cool too.

but is that the only prob.?...your not getting a character you want?:confused:

^^very nice x:up:

[Sentinel X]

so who hates the script???

its perfect!... what the **** more could it have?Personally I LOVE it...It sounds really really really good. we cant have everything panel for panel in comic book films and this is satisfying imo.

that would be cool too.

but is that the only prob.?...your not getting a character you want?
I think what he meant is that he really likes it but it isnt perfect cause of no Omega Red.

And its true...perfect is a strong word...like hate is...i guess :O

[FaT_tONle]

that would be cool too.

but is that the only prob.?...your not getting a character you want?:confused:

I agree this is my only qualm about the scrip... I don't want to sound like a Cyke fan but I would've loved to see Omega on the big screen... I will love the movie nevertheless.. my only thin is that if you have a four armed mutant and blob??? Why no Omega, or Detahsyrke, or Deadpool? I'll try to stop sounding like a Cyke fan cause I don't want this movie getting bad criticism just cause their favorite characters aren't in...

[X-Maniac]

I like the sound of the script.... there is no way they could pack in Omega Red and Deathstryke as well - those could be in the next films (if they are envisaging a trilogy). I like the mutant cameos especially - this is a good chance to add in other mutants. Personally, I want Snowbird, but you can't have everything!

[Lil_Flip246]

I was too lazy to read the entire thing.. Can someone please sum it up?? Like who's gonna be in the film?? What's the plot??

[Sub-Zero]

to whomever said that it destroys the character to have him volunteer for the procedure obviously doesn't know the character. wolverine is open to interpretation, but making him volunteer is no a slap in the face. he was a freakin' animal when weapon x recruited him. he was a cold-blooded killer. and in this script it tones that down and makes him more vengeful. he goes through the procedure because he thinks that it will help him kill the man(sabretooth) who killed his girlfriend(silver fox). it doesn't kill the character it just makes him more human, which isn't horrible.

[Sub-Zero]

I was too lazy to read the entire thing.. Can someone please sum it up?? Like who's gonna be in the film?? What's the plot??

it was just the first act. but it seems that its mostly about wolvie's origin and weapon x stuff. seems that it'll have blob, silver fox, sabretooth, and john wraith to name a few. only the first act was reviewed(i think) but its not that hard to tell where its going.

[Horrorfan]

this sounds ****ing awesome.


BRING. IT. ON.

[Sub-Zero]

hope this doesn't spoil anything for anyone but it looks like all the members of team x(kestrel(john wraith), sabretooth, maverick(agentzero) and silverfox) are going to be in the movie. i hope that this will be the shooting script.

when the hell did maverick change his code name to agent zero? i haven't been reading comics for a while.

[Dark Knight]

Contrary to popular belief, FOX don't screw up every film they get their hands on. I've enjoyed many a FOX film.

It'll come down to not letting Fox and Avi interfere....and all about letting Jackman get a GOOD director and not some hack....

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I just don't like the bone claws because it messes with the continuity of the trilogy...

It's been HEAVILY implied that the claws were part of the experiment, and that he wasn't born with them;

"You were an animal then, you're an animal now. I just gave you claws."

"I have no doubt that your amnesia, your adamantium skeleton, your claws, are somehow all related..."

Plus the flashback scene in X2 of Wolverine running out of the Weapon X facility, looking at his claws, and screaming in a "What have you done to me!!" type of way.

And then there's Lady Deathstrike, who obviously had adamantium implanted as claws, which implies that Stryker has a thing for implanting mutants with adamantium skeletons and claws.

[tamron]

when the hell did maverick change his code name to agent zero? i haven't been reading comics for a while.
Weapon X reformed and sent Sabretooth to recruit Maverick. Mav refused, Sabes then beat him near death, and drug him back to Weapon X, and they said "join us or die". So he said ok with the intent to destroy them from the inside. They upgraded him, basically making him a Wolverine killer (they added a corrosive to his energy blast that nullifies healing factors, he makes no sound and has no scent), and he demanded a new handle, as everyone thought Sabes had killed Maverick. So he became Agent Zero.

For more details, check the Agent Zero wikipedia bio, it's quite detailed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Zero

[FaT_tONle]

Just that the script never implied Creed was part of Weapons X... just a terminator hunting mutants??? Can someone clear that up for me?

[jim_root_rules]

I just don't like the bone claws because it messes with the continuity of the trilogy...

It's been HEAVILY implied that the claws were part of the experiment, and that he wasn't born with them;

"You were an animal then, you're an animal now. I just gave you claws."

"I have no doubt that your amnesia, your adamantium skeleton, your claws, are somehow all related..."

Plus the flashback scene in X2 of Wolverine running out of the Weapon X facility, looking at his claws, and screaming in a "What have you done to me!!" type of way.

And then there's Lady Deathstrike, who obviously had adamantium implanted as claws, which implies that Stryker has a thing for implanting mutants with adamantium skeletons and claws.


every one is the comic universe thought the claws were from the weapon x experiment unit he got his adamantium ripped out. as for the "what have u dun to me" he had no memory of his life b4 he woke up on tht table so he wuldnt remeba his claws or the fact he is a mutant.


and for the " i gave u claws" culd b a metaphor, an im willing to ignore it, or put it dwn as a metaphor

[IKnowSomeJudo]

It's been taken down. Anyone saved it?

[danoyse]

Just that the script never implied Creed was part of Weapons X... just a terminator hunting mutants??? Can someone clear that up for me?

It sounds like he's working for Stryker. He tried to recruit Logan using Creed as an excuse, and when that didn't work, he had Creed kill his girlfriend to get him mad enough to "volunteer" for the Weapon X experiment...which leads to the rest of the creepy things that happen, and worse.

They should release it at Christmas. :p

[FaT_tONle]

It sounds like he's working for Stryker. He tried to recruit Logan using Creed as an excuse, and when that didn't work, he had Creed kill his girlfriend to get him mad enough to "volunteer" for the Weapon X experiment...which leads to the rest of the creepy things that happen, and worse.

They should release it at Christmas. :p

Ya thanks... that makes sense... I guess this plot will suffice for me after all...

[danoyse]

See, have faith. :) It all fits quite nicely when you to work out the whole thing. Definitely sounds nastier than just having him kidnapped like he was in the comics.

[FaT_tONle]

See, have faith. :) It all fits quite nicely when you to work out the whole thing. Definitely sounds nastier than just having him kidnapped like he was in the comics.

It's just that if Creed is working for Stryker, why would he want Logan and him to fight each other if they are all part of the same *team*... I'm just curious to find out what Styker's intentions are... act 2 can't come soon enough...

[Horrorfan]

It's just that if Creed is working for Stryker, why would he want Logan and him to fight each other if they are all part of the same *team*... I'm just curious to find out what Styker's intentions are... act 2 can't come soon enough...


Because he wants logan on his side, and he will do it by any means nessecary. Creed is a good way to get him to join up, and if they wipe his memory, he wouldn't really remember anyway.

[Sub-Zero]

It's just that if Creed is working for Stryker, why would he want Logan and him to fight each other if they are all part of the same *team*... I'm just curious to find out what Styker's intentions are... act 2 can't come soon enough...

he doesn't. he wants to use wolverine as a weapon. stryker saying that he can get revenge on sabretooth is all part of the plan. he has no intention on letting them beat the crap out of each other. he's just using wolverine's thirst for revenge so that he can put him through the procedure and manipulate him. how do you get someone to do what you want them to do? lie to them.

[Horrorfan]

he doesn't. he wants to use wolverine as a weapon. stryker saying that he can get revenge on sabretooth is all part of the plan. he has no intention on letting them beat the crap out of each other. he's just using wolverine's thirst for revenge so that he can put him through the procedure and manipulate him. how do you get someone to do what you want them to do? lie to them.

yeah i agree, he probably uses that as a set up in order to mind wipe and brainwash wolverine.

[FaT_tONle]

he doesn't. he wants to use wolverine as a weapon. stryker saying that he can get revenge on sabretooth is all part of the plan. he has no intention on letting them beat the crap out of each other. he's just using wolverine's thirst for revenge so that he can put him through the procedure and manipulate him. how do you get someone to do what you want them to do? lie to them.

Ya but I thought the script says they only get their memories swiped at the end... plus there is a final battle between the two so Stryker ****s up somewhere... maybe Wolverine finds out the truth about Stryker and turns against everyone still alive on the team... but he fails and then gets his brain swiped... still doesn't make sense to me... why would they swipe his brain in the first place if everyone on the team ends up dead... or at least most of em... unless the team is still together to setup future flicks? We just have to play the waiting game

[danoyse]

Ya but I thought the script says they only get their memories swiped at the end...

It just said they show it being done, it doesn't necessarily happen in the end.

Anyone notice the whole thing has been taken down? Guess that answers any doubt that it was legit. :cool:

plus there is a final battle between the two so Stryker ****s up somewhere... maybe Wolverine finds out the truth about Stryker and turns against everyone still alive on the team... but he fails and then gets his brain swiped... still doesn't make sense to me... why would they swipe his brain in the first place if everyone on the team ends up dead... or at least most of em... unless the team is still together to setup future flicks? We just have to play the waiting game

I'm guessing that was the intention from the start. Stryker doesn't want him as a weapon, he wants him as his weapon. Remember, he hates mutants...as long as they can be controlled, as he said in X2. His plan sounds like tricking Wolverine into joining him, then wiping out his memory and basically making into a weapon with no independent thought of his own.

Obviously, he ultimately manages to underestimate Wolverine's healing power, since we all know it ends with Wolverine becoming conscious and going beserk on everyone--with his new weapons Stryker gave him being used against them.

Should be interesting to see how Stryker manages to escape. It's also in line with what he did to Nightcrawler in X2: program him to attack the president, then step in to make it look like all mutants are dangerous so he can attack the school and wipe out the rest of them.

[Sub-Zero]

i just hope logan is called weapon x. i always thought that dept. H gave him the name wolverine. it was weird to see stryker say "wolverine" in x2. if he was the one who "perfected" the adamantium bonding process and used it on logan, why would he call logan by a name he would get after he escaped from weapon x?

[Sub-Zero]

does anyone think that mutant 143 (jason "stryker") will be the one wiping these memories?

[Sub-Zero]

Ya but I thought the script says they only get their memories swiped at the end... plus there is a final battle between the two so Stryker ****s up somewhere... maybe Wolverine finds out the truth about Stryker and turns against everyone still alive on the team... but he fails and then gets his brain swiped... still doesn't make sense to me... why would they swipe his brain in the first place if everyone on the team ends up dead... or at least most of em... unless the team is still together to setup future flicks? We just have to play the waiting game

i think its a good way to keep wolverine clueless of what he's programmed to do. like he does a covert op and gets his memory erased afterwards so he's not a liability. how do you know everyone dies? i don't think wolverine vs sabretooth will be the final battle between them. that battle is inevitable. sab is the luthor to wolvs' superman. they are ultimate enemies. is there another script review that divulges more details? the one i read didn't say anything about a final bout, everyone dying, and getting their memories wiped at the end.

[danoyse]

does anyone think that mutant 143 (jason "stryker") will be the one wiping these memories?

Well, according to X2, the story goes back at least 15 years ("What's it been, 15 years? You haven't aged a day."), and Magneto tells Xavier "And you think taking in the Wolverine will make up for your failure with Stryker's son?"

That might put it around the time Xavier failed with Jason...it's definitely possible. :up:

And if it does, that sounds like a possible Patrick Stewart cameo.

[danoyse]

i just hope logan is called weapon x. i always thought that dept. H gave him the name wolverine. it was weird to see stryker say "wolverine" in x2. if he was the one who "perfected" the adamantium bonding process and used it on logan, why would he call logan by a name he would get after he escaped from weapon x?

Did you notice that Stryker and Magneto are the only characters who do call him Wolverine in the 3 movies? Beast calls him that once, but just because he's familiar with his file.

The leaked script mentioned that Silver Fox mentions something about wolverines...maybe he takes/is given the name when he goes into Weapon X. It does seen he "volunteered" to avenge her death.

[Sub-Zero]

Well, according to X2, the story goes back at least 15 years ("What's it been, 15 years? You haven't aged a day."), and Magneto tells Xavier "And you think taking in the Wolverine will make up for your failure with Stryker's son?"

That might put it around the time Xavier failed with Jason...it's definitely possible. :up:

And if it does, that sounds like a possible Patrick Stewart cameo.

x2? they said it in x-men where prof x says " its been almost 15 years hasn't it? living from day to day, moving from place to place, with no memory of who or WHAT you are."

note: yes i do remember stryker saying that in x2. just saying that it was established before.

[danoyse]

x2? they said it in x-men where prof x says " its been almost 15 years hasn't it? living from day to day, moving from place to place, with no memory of who or WHAT you are."

note: yes i do remember stryker saying that in x2. just saying that it was established before.

Right...so it's definitely 15 years ago. :up: And leaves it even more open for Xavier to make some sort of appearance, possibly.

[Sub-Zero]

i hope not. but i remember someone saying that one of the x-men might make an appearance or have a role in the wolvie movie. i thought it would be rogue but since its a prequel of sorts xavier has a chance.

[danoyse]

It would be too early for Rogue--she was just a kid when they met in the bar. But I can see the Professor or Magneto (since he has a spinoff planned as well) figuring into it somehow.

[Spidey 2007]

It would be too early for Rogue--she was just a kid when they met in the bar. But I can see the Professor or Magneto (since he has a spinoff planned as well) figuring into it somehow.

well, itd be great to have it ENDING with the bar :) :up:

[sc12een17am3]

hm... i really dont see y many people have such a beef for the bone claws.

cause wasnt it explained later in the comics that they are bone and was plated?

and the argument saying it doesnt make sense for it to be bone since the movie shows the claws are flat, well news flash... its flat in the comics/cartoon also... and Stryker saying "[...] i just gave u claws" it can easily be interupted metaphorically or saying that i just plated them or whatever

iono but i like the bone claws

[Horrorfan]

hm... i really dont see y many people have such a beef for the bone claws.

cause wasnt it explained later in the comics that they are bone and was plated?

and the argument saying it doesnt make sense for it to be bone since the movie shows the claws are flat, well news flash... its flat in the comics/cartoon also... and Stryker saying "[...] i just gave u claws" it can easily be interupted metaphorically or saying that i just plated them or whatever

iono but i like the bone claws

I agree.

People complaining they can't be bone because in the movies they are flat make me despair at humanity....that has to be the dumbest complaint ever.

your watching a movie where people fire lasers from their eyes and skin turns metal, and you can't suspend your disbelief for that?

sometimes people's stupidity saddens me :(

[Sub-Zero]

i always loved the bone claws in the comics. it was great when mags extracted the adamantium, almost killing wolverine in the process. i just hope the bone claws aren't smooth. they should be jagged and look like deformed bone extensions. i know it doesn't really make sense with the x-men movies. since x-men showed springs in wolverine's x-rays i thought they were going with the idea that his claws were implanted and not natural. the review did say that sabretooth broke his bone claws and that his healing factor could keep up with the damage sabs was doing to him. there is a chance he loses his claws and stryker gives them back to him. and when i said the thing about rogue being in it i was talking about when fox thought it should be a continuation of the x-men movies not a prequel. this was before production of x3.

[emi]

I agree.

People complaining they can't be bone because in the movies they are flat make me despair at humanity....that has to be the dumbest complaint ever.

your watching a movie where people fire lasers from their eyes and skin turns metal, and you can't suspend your disbelief for that?

sometimes people's stupidity saddens me :(

:up: :D

Unfortunately fanboys are losers without a woman and a social life: get out from mum's basement...

[Sub-Zero]

:up: :D

Unfortunately fanboys are losers without a woman and a social life: get out from mum's basement...

well real fanboys know that wolverine has bone claws. so i guess you're talking about the movie's fanboys? those would be the general movie goers, who think what was on film is directly translated from the comic book. i could care less what they do as long as its a good movie that will be worth seeing in the theatre.

[Chaos Bringer]

Why does everyone dislike the bone claws so much? I'm not up on my comics.


Because Marvel does nothing but continue to mess with the continuity they've written. Trying to follow the story of Wolverine is like a walking a map that goes in circles. Back when Marvel Comics presents was a top drawer comic we were given the true story of Weapon X. Then, nearly a decade and a half later when the editors and writers thought it white hot, Magneto pulled the Adamantium from Logan and out of nowhere we discover(only after reading 20 yrs. of Logan)that his claws weren't only put in by the Canuck scientist dream team but also a part of his mutation. From early on. Though we only learn of it now. LAME.
Claws were put in as a form of weapons. It's not a mutation. But hey-no matter. It's like Magneto being killed, mindwiped, rendered ineffective a dozen times. Sure he'll come back again too.
Thank gosh for Whedon or I'd be out of here.

[chaseter]

^Yea I don't like bone claws either. They were just a lame excuse to keep the Logan character alive and able to fight.

[Kanon]

Damn, I got too late, it has been taken down :(

Did anyone save it? A PM with the review would make me so happy...

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it online :p

[TheJaberwock]

Damn, I got too late, it has been taken down :(

Did anyone save it? A PM with the review would make me so happy...

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it online :p


perhaps you could PM it to me Kanon? or PM me the link from which you got the review? thanks.

[lokisixnine]

sweet thanks

[Kanon]

So, could the character that they wanted on The Last Stand be the Blob? or Wraith?

[chaseter]

So, could the character that they wanted on The Last Stand be the Blob? or Wraith?
It had better not be the Blob. It had better be Omega Red.

[Horrorfan]

perhaps you could PM it to me Kanon? or PM me the link from which you got the review? thanks.

Yeah me too, if you can?

[Kanon]

It had better not be the Blob. It had better be Omega Red.
But if you think about it, The Blob and Wraith roles fit easily in The Last Stand, as a brotherhood member and government official.

[01lduff]

So, could the character that they wanted on The Last Stand be the Blob? or Wraith?


well blob was in the last stand so by prosses of elimination i cant be him lol

[Jan Irisi]

well blob was in the last stand so by prosses of elimination i cant be him lol

Wasn't that Phat not Blob?

[chaseter]

But if you think about it, The Blob and Wraith roles fit easily in The Last Stand, as a brotherhood member and government official.
But how does the Blob fit in to Wolverine's story better than Omega Red???

[ang_hulk]

yes it was phat BUT apprently blob was there to.A young blob was in the first one also.

[FaT_tONle]

It had better not be the Blob. It had better be Omega Red.

It wasn't... pray for sequels... sad to see my favorite villain never in an Xmen film as of yet...

[Lil_Flip246]

Can someone please explain it to me in point form?? I have no time to read. Too long.

[FaT_tONle]

Wolverine is a regular guy with claws... Styker tries to recruit him... Sabertooth kills his girl to get him pissed... he agrees to work with Stryker and go through the experiment... everyone from the original team X is in... Blob and Barberus are others involved... God knows why

[Kanon]

But how does the Blob fit in to Wolverine's story better than Omega Red???
He doesn't :p but Blob fits in The Last Stand story a lot better than Omega Red, so is more likely to be wanted in TLS... Still, I don't know why would they want to preserve Blob for Wolverine instead...
The good thing is that Blob's origin would be similar to comics, if I'm not mistaken, there is an scene in a circus, carnival or similar in that review.

[Sub-Zero]

He doesn't :p but Blob fits in The Last Stand story a lot better than Omega Red, so is more likely to be wanted in TLS... Still, I don't know why would they want to preserve Blob for Wolverine instead...
The good thing is that Blob's origin would be similar to comics, if I'm not mistaken, there is an scene in a circus, carnival or similar in that review.


huh? are you talking about the review that used to be on latinoreview? there wasn't a carnival or circus scene anywhere in that review. no one needs an origin in the wolverine movie except wolverine.

on a side note blob would not be a useful member of x:tls's brotherhood. they already have juggs. i know that blob was a member, but i don't remember seeing mastermind, quicksilver, or scarlet witch anywhere. and imo they were a whole lot more useful than blob.

i think all of you are making mountains out of mole hills. the review never said that blob or barbarus were integral to the plot, but it didn't say that they wouldn't be either. i think they are just cameos. who really needs them? they already have team x so they shouldn't stray from the group that wolverine was in.

[Horrorfan]

where was phat in last stand?

it was awesome to see spyke from x men evolution :up:

[Sub-Zero]

where was phat in last stand?

it was awesome to see spyke from x men evolution :up:

phat was the big fat guy that sat down and became skinny when mags and pyro were at the church trying to recruit mutants. and spyke wasn't in it. if you're taking about that guy that shot out the porcuipine needles out of his face that was supposed to be quills, but he was credited as kid omega.

[Kanon]

I didn't mean that Blob would be useful to the Brotherhood, or the plot for that matter, in The Last Stand, just that he can easily make a cameo appearance as just another mutant in the brotherhood, and Omega Red would have need a little more development.
The carnival scene is in the review, it's just the scene whrere Sabretooth first appears, but it doesn't seem Blob-related

[Sub-Zero]

i'm not seeing it in mine. think you could pm it to me?

[Lil_Flip246]

Wolverine is a regular guy with claws... Styker tries to recruit him... Sabertooth kills his girl to get him pissed... he agrees to work with Stryker and go through the experiment... everyone from the original team X is in... Blob and Barberus are others involved... God knows why What?? You mean that the X-Men are in the movie????

[Lil_Flip246]

where was phat in last stand?

it was awesome to see spyke from x men evolution :up: It was a different. It was Spike from the comics.

[Punisher RULES]

please pm it to me someone.

[Horrorfan]

phat was the big fat guy that sat down and became skinny when mags and pyro were at the church trying to recruit mutants. and spyke wasn't in it. if you're taking about that guy that shot out the porcuipine needles out of his face that was supposed to be quills, but he was credited as kid omega.

I swear they called him spyke? oh well, must be my memory.... :(

[Celestial]

So who was the one who shot spikes from his forearms in the forest?

[Sub-Zero]

i think this discussion should be moved to the x-men:tls forum. lets get back to talking about wolverine.

[chaseter]

^Agreed. I hated the review and thought parts of it were mega crap.

[FaT_tONle]

What?? You mean that the X-Men are in the movie????

Team X... Kestrel, Wraith, Silver Fox, etc

[Lil_Flip246]

Is Lady Deathstrike in the review??

[EnSabahNur]

I dont know if this was the same review i read awhile back, if it is. Wolverine will bomb... there is stuff (sorry wolverine fans) that needs to be changed in his past to make the movie flow better. Allthough they should stck with the basic story, Im ok with them changing it to make it a good movie.

[KillerBob]

^Yea I don't like bone claws either. They were just a lame excuse to keep the Logan character alive and able to fight.Uhhhh, why does Wolverine need claws to keep his character alive or fight???

Wolverine is more highly trained his combat than Captain America as well as physically stronger, faster, and tougher. He did not need bone claws to help him fight. He was given bone claws to explain why in the hell he "accidentally" got adamantium claws in the bonding process and to further allude to his animalistic regression mutations.

And Wolverine's character is still intact no matter what weapon he is using.

[FaT_tONle]

Is Lady Deathstrike in the review??

Nope... instead we got blob...

[chaseter]

Uhhhh, why does Wolverine need claws to keep his character alive or fight???

Wolverine is more highly trained his combat than Captain America as well as physically stronger, faster, and tougher. He did not need bone claws to help him fight. He was given bone claws to explain why in the hell he "accidentally" got adamantium claws in the bonding process and to further allude to his animalistic regression mutations.

And Wolverine's character is still intact no matter what weapon he is using.
Yea...we can all relate to seeing Wolverine running around with an AK-47. I am sure they will use that in the next movie.

[Lil_Flip246]

Is this the review for the entire movie?? Could they change the script??

[SuperT]

No, it's only a review of the first act I think, so there could be plenty more left in the story.

[chaseter]

It is the first act only. Somehow that is the only part we ever get...

[Bishop2]

It's a review of the entire script. Latino Review never discusses anything beyond the first couple of acts because they don't want to spoil it.

Did anyone save the review?

[hitpehoaos]

yeh its gone now, i dont care it just means we will be thrilled with the plot

[FaT_tONle]

Quick question... did the script give a time table or a year as to when these events were to occur... also... why was Stryker putting together the team... was the reason given... if someone has the script plz PM it to me

[Venom160]

could somone pm me the review. The site said the studio made them take it down.

[FaT_tONle]

The basic stuff in the script was just that Logan's girl (silverfox) gets killed by Sabertooth... then in order to get revenge... he signs up with Stryker and joins Weapon X...

[Bishop2]

Quick question... did the script give a time table or a year as to when these events were to occur... also... why was Stryker putting together the team... was the reason given... if someone has the script plz PM it to me

No time table. Since he's established as being a teenager in an era where high school football had become a norm, he had to be at least 14 (or possibly as old as 18) no later than the 1950s. Could've been 60s or 70s for all we know, it'll depend on how the director decides to frame it. The rest of the movie takes place significantly later - decades, seemingly - but we don't know how much.

Stryker CLAIMS that he's putting together a team of mutants to hunt down those who misuse their mutant powers - he specifically recruits Logan to help stop Sabretooth from murdering innocent mutants throughout America - but there's obviously more to it than that.

[Avalanche]

phat was the big fat guy that sat down and became skinny when mags and pyro were at the church trying to recruit mutants. and spyke wasn't in it. if you're taking about that guy that shot out the porcuipine needles out of his face that was supposed to be quills, but he was credited as kid omega.
He's not talking about Quill.

He's talking about the guy Wolverine battled in the forest. He kept pulling bones out from his arms and throwing them toward Wolverine. This was Spyke.

[Bishop2]

He's not talking about Quill.

He's talking about the guy Wolverine battled in the forest. He kept pulling bones out from his arms and throwing them toward Wolverine. This was Spyke.

The credits list him as "Spike," which is a somewhat different character than the dude from Evolution. In fact, I don't recall Evolution Spyke ever ripping his bones out and throwing them?

[Sub-Zero]

He's not talking about Quill.

He's talking about the guy Wolverine battled in the forest. He kept pulling bones out from his arms and throwing them toward Wolverine. This was Spyke.

if you read Horrorfan's reply to that post he was talking about quills. how about reading previous posts before you claim to know what someone else was talking about. don't take this as an insult. just a suggestion.

[DJ Kornphlake]

Why when its the exact same studio developing it. I doubt they will have learned from their mistakes.

Warner Brother's proved otherwise with Batman franchise (though X3 could no way be truly compared to the atrocity of Batman & Robin). I don't think it's too hard to fathom Fox being capable of doing the same.