Bryan Singer Vs Ang Lee

[partypooper]

Who do you think has ruined a potentially unbeatable comic book adaption more?

Ang Lee or Bryan Singer?

[kwameade]

Wow that was one of the most ignorant comments I've read in awhile.
I loved Hulk and Superman returns. So I don't think any of the directors
ruined the comic book. i thought they were great movies.

[DorkyFresh]

just because the movies didn't make much doesn't mean they ruined the adaptation (spell it right).

if you make a great adaptation without the intention of even selling it at all, just because you don't get any money from it doesn't make it a poor adaptation.

[ang_hulk]

no comparison,bryan loved supes and this films was his dream,he didnt compromise that dream and mainstrem audineces found the film boring.I bet as kid bryan saw supes 3 and thought "this isnt how its supposed to be" and thought up the films we all saw.It just wasnt big enough you know? but it was a superman film from a diehard superman fan and it shows through.ANG LEE IS A SON OF A ***** who didnt know what he was doing and id love to mess him up for what he did.As for bryan I only hold x3 against him,he should have been there for his first big film/films the third time but if i were to be offerd hulk and had just done two great xmen films i think i would go to hulk.

[Steelsheen]

just because the movies didn't make much doesn't mean they ruined the adaptation

nailed it right there :up:

[ang_hulk]

thats very true,hellboy didnt make alot but i think it was amazing and one of the best adaptions yet.

[Lobster Charlie]

Good question, partypooper...hmmm, I think I'd say Ang Lee screwed up a tiny bit more than Bryan Singer, since they are ALREADY talking about restarting the Hulk franchise.

We'll have to see how Superman Returns floats in the B.O. I think it'll make good money, but not nearly as much as they expected. And the critics seem to like this one more than they liked Hulk, so it seems this film has the edge.

But, I'd rather neither of these directors ever touch a comic book film again.

[topdog1]

Who do you think has ruined a potentially unbeatable comic book adaption more?

Ang Lee or Bryan Singer?

Good question. Both took their own vision and injected it in to cool characters that didn't need to deviate from the source material. Singer thought the original Superman film was the material he needed to mirror instead of Supes' rich comic history. Ang changed the origin, added Hulk poodles and a useless father character. I don't know what's worse. Being unoriginal and ripping off other people's work from the 1970's or being too original and creating awful material? Regardless, they both managed to deliver poorly paced films.

The Hulk delivered 30 minutes of fun wrapped in bizarre Ang Lee babble.

SR delivered 5 minutes of fun wrapped around a silly unoriginal plot.

I vote Singer screwed up more but it's close.

[The Master]

Who do you think has ruined a potentially unbeatable comic book adaption more?

Ang Lee or Bryan Singer?

I don't even know why this thread was created. As much as SR has it's flaws, it should in no way be compared to Ang Lee's adaption of The Hulk.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'll say Ang Lee, because even though I haven't seen Superman Returns it can't be that bad.

[Fred_Fury]

Bryan Singer, at least Ang Lee's Hulk movie had good action scenes.

Superman Returns is by far the most homoerotic superhero movie Ive ever seen. I didnt know if I was watching a Superman movie or a softcore gay porn with a man in a superman outfit. At least ang lee didnt try to force his sexuality upon us. When Superman got beat up on new krypton I didnt know if Lex Luthor was going to stab him or start making out with him. Were those 3 guys beating him up or gang banging him? I couldnt tell. Bryan Singer needs to keep his no-so-subtle gay references to himself and not put them in his movies.

[Gamma Ray]

Ang Lee and Bryan Singer actually brought new life to both of their respective characters.

[WorthyStevens]

Bryan Singer, at least Ang Lee's Hulk movie had good action scenes.

Superman Returns is by far the most homoerotic superhero movie Ive ever seen. I didnt know if I was watching a Superman movie or a softcore gay porn with a man in a superman outfit. At least ang lee didnt try to force his sexuality upon us. When Superman got beat up on new krypton I didnt know if Lex Luthor was going to stab him or start making out with him. Were those 3 guys beating him up or gang banging him? I couldnt tell. Bryan Singer needs to keep his no-so-subtle gay references to himself and not put them in his movies.

Wow. Good job on creating the single most idiotically retarded post I have ever read on this forum. :up:

[Mr. Socko]

Good Lord, atleast I enjoyed Returns a little.

Hulk did nothing.

[Galactical]

Rois Rane?

I wouldn't go as far as saying ruined. I liked the hulk but recognize it really pounds you over the head with its overly serious tone as if it's bound to win an award or something, sucking the fun out of it in the process...

I get the same feeling from returns, but even more. Take that as you will.

[Venom71]

Wow. Good job on creating the single most idiotically retarded post I have ever read on this forum. :up:
Sad thing is he has posted it in at least two threads already...I hope he gets probation or banned for that post. Uncalled for IMO.

[Triligors]

WTF?!

As far as I know it as a "fresh" rating on RottenTomatoes.

About 50% of the people who voted gave the movie 9 & 10 rating.


Screwed it up? How? Just because a minority of people didn't like it?

[KalMart]

Depends on who has more hair to pull.

[co2]

In what instance have either of those franchises been ruined?
I liked both films...or all of the films if you are counting the X-films. You didn't specify.

[Barry Allen]

Who do you think has ruined a potentially unbeatable comic book adaption more?

Ang Lee or Bryan Singer?

Wow...just wow...

Yes, you're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entilted to laugh at how stupid it is.

[dpm07]

The Hulk delivered 30 minutes of fun wrapped in bizarre Ang Lee babble.

SR delivered 5 minutes of fun wrapped around a silly unoriginal plot.

I vote Singer screwed up more but it's close.

That's about how I feel as well.

[zer00]

It's reasons like this, that comic films decline in quality over time. Why? *****ing by ungrateful fans. Oh I'm horribly sorry it wasn't mad just as you liked it. You know what, then write a script, buy a studio, and direct the movie. Then it can be made just like you want it. Superman Returns for me was probably the greatest comic to film adaption I have ever ****ing seen. You know what, if Superman: The Movie were released to day this thread would be "who's worse Ang Lee or Richard Donner".

I don't expect everyone to like a god dammed movie. But try to be intelligent about it. Or you know what all those so called normal folk we talk about and say they're the closed minded idiots that make fun of us for liking comics, maybe they're right. Maybe they're right.

And I'm sorry if it didn't make 400 mil in a 2 hour time period. I'm sure as hell WB ain't panicking right now. So calm down.

[CConn]

I find a must agree with my POed partner in posting.

Most of the criticisms that have been directed at SR are more fan-gripes than actual criticism of SR as a film. Hulk, in most people's opinions, suffered as a film from Ang Lee's direction, and thusly it's in a completely different category than SR. IMO, at least. Not to mention, so far, both the critical reaction (from both the professionals and the normies) have been quite a bit more favorable for SR than it was for Hulk.

The only place you may be able to compare the two is box office. But it's still too early to make many predictions on that. If SR is gifted with BB's legs, we won't even be having this conversation a few months from now.

[Lex Luthor]

Good Lord, atleast I enjoyed Returns a little.

Hulk did nothing.

Same here.

Except put Hulk where Returns is, and Returns where Hulk is. :D

[Katsuro]

Stupid poll. Superman Returns was amazing, Hulk bored me. I tried to like Hulk, I really did. I was just bored. No fanboy gripes about his dad doing testing on him or him being too big. I just found the movie to be poorly made. Wasn't a fan of that comic-book editing style either.

Superman Returns, on the other hand, is the opposite for me. I love the movie, and my only, minor criticisms of it come from my inner fanboy, partially wishing it had been a more post-crisis story.

[CapBeerCino]

nailed it right there :up:

It too early to comment on SR B.O. We don't even know the weekend # for sure...


p.s

this thread suck.

[Movies205]

Even if you didn't like the Hulk, you have to respect Ang Lee because he had the courage and creativity to try something different than the usual formula, Singer just went and made a rehashed 20 years too late sequel.

[CConn]

There's a fine line between courage and foolishness.

Looking at the pretty drastic changes Singer made with the X-Men films, I really don't think he's particularly afraid of making changes. He just loved what Donner did, and wanted to continue that. He saw that there was the opprotunity to make something fantastic out of it. Which I personally think he did.

Everyone seems to be so goddamn hung up on the fact Singer didn't try to completely reinvent Superman or something, that they (seemingly) completely forget that fact SR was actually a good - even great - film. Yeah, Singer didn't make the Superman film you wanted to see, but he made a good one, and you should at least respect him for that.

[YJ1]

Good question. Both took their own vision and injected it in to cool characters that didn't need to deviate from the source material. Singer thought the original Superman film was the material he needed to mirror instead of Supes' rich comic history. Ang changed the origin, added Hulk poodles and a useless father character. I don't know what's worse. Being unoriginal and ripping off other people's work from the 1970's or being too original and creating awful material? Regardless, they both managed to deliver poorly paced films.

The Hulk delivered 30 minutes of fun wrapped in bizarre Ang Lee babble.

SR delivered 5 minutes of fun wrapped around a silly unoriginal plot.

I vote Singer screwed up more but it's close.

Hulk is the better movie but both directors screwed up a lot of things.

[Movies205]

There's a fine line between courage and foolishness.

Looking at the pretty drastic changes Singer made with the X-Men films, I really don't think he's particularly afraid of making changes. He just loved what Donner did, and wanted to continue that. He saw that there was the opprotunity to make something fantastic out of it. Which I personally think he did.

Everyone seems to be so goddamn hung up on the fact Singer didn't try to completely reinvent Superman or something, that they (seemingly) completely forget that fact SR was actually a good - even great - film. Yeah, Singer didn't make the Superman film you wanted to see, but he made a good one, and you should at least respect him for that.

Beautiful, yes... Good, No. ****ty charizations, a terrible plot line, absolutely terrible comic relief, and a finale that is quite monotonous

[WorthyStevens]

It's reasons like this, that comic films decline in quality over time. Why? *****ing by ungrateful fans. Oh I'm horribly sorry it wasn't mad just as you liked it. You know what, then write a script, buy a studio, and direct the movie. Then it can be made just like you want it. Superman Returns for me was probably the greatest comic to film adaption I have ever ****ing seen. You know what, if Superman: The Movie were released to day this thread would be "who's worse Ang Lee or Richard Donner".

I don't expect everyone to like a god dammed movie. But try to be intelligent about it. Or you know what all those so called normal folk we talk about and say they're the closed minded idiots that make fun of us for liking comics, maybe they're right. Maybe they're right.

And I'm sorry if it didn't make 400 mil in a 2 hour time period. I'm sure as hell WB ain't panicking right now. So calm down.

That is probably the most beautifully sensible post I've read in a long, long time on here. :up:

[DBella]

It's reasons like this, that comic films decline in quality over time. Why? *****ing by ungrateful fans. Oh I'm horribly sorry it wasn't mad just as you liked it. You know what, then write a script, buy a studio, and direct the movie. Then it can be made just like you want it. Superman Returns for me was probably the greatest comic to film adaption I have ever ****ing seen. You know what, if Superman: The Movie were released to day this thread would be "who's worse Ang Lee or Richard Donner".

I don't expect everyone to like a god dammed movie. But try to be intelligent about it. Or you know what all those so called normal folk we talk about and say they're the closed minded idiots that make fun of us for liking comics, maybe they're right. Maybe they're right.

And I'm sorry if it didn't make 400 mil in a 2 hour time period. I'm sure as hell WB ain't panicking right now. So calm down.
Wow! I can't believe this is happening but I so totally agree with you. Well said. :up:

[CConn]

Beautiful, yes... Good, No. ****ty charizations, a terrible plot line, absolutely terrible comic relief, and a finale that is quite monotonousI disagree with every single one of those complaints. However, at least it's complaints about the actual film than (rather than "It's a sequel to the Donner? It must be horrible then!"), and for better I won't call you mean names behind your back.

:)

EDIT: Dammit, I did it anyway. :(

[Sava]

lol... First it was "will BB be the next Hulk" now this... I havent seen SR yet but from the looks of it, it looks great. Sometimes i wish i didnt come to this place when s**t like this happens.

[Shuley]

Superman Returns Sucked! Yea OK,Like I really buy the whole "Lois Lane and her husband really own a helecopter with a beachfront property in what looks like Manhatten" Gee they own all that working for the Daily Planet. Just another one of the many plot holes this film has.

Like I really buy the "my son is my husbands' son" Yea ok look how little Lois Lane is! After say 4-5 months she'd be showing her pregnacy after superman knocked her up,What did she do? Jump in James Madson's bed right after she got some from superman? You really think a women like Lois Lane would jump in his bed right after superman then say that it's father is someone who really isn't? Besides, Kitty was annoying and Lex Luther sucked..If Lex Luther was going to kill billions of people then sell beach front properties to make himself a fortune,who in the world would buy them since he killed billions of people? everyone would be dead but him?? And some of you people are calling this a good movie???

[CConn]

Superman Returns Sucked! Yea OK,Like I really buy the whole "Lois Lane and her husband really own a helecopter with a beachfront property in what looks like Manhatten" Gee they own all that working for the Daily Planet. Just another one of the many plot holes this film has.Richard's family does own the Daily Planet.
Like I really buy the "my son is my husbands' son" Yea ok look how little Lois Lane is! After say 4-5 months she'd be showing her pregnacy after superman knocked her up,What did she do? Jump in James Madson's bed right after she got some from superman? You really think a women like Lois Lane would jump in his bed right after superman then say that it's father is someone who really isn't?Maybe Richard knows it's not his kid? It was never mentioned in the film.
Besides, Kitty was annoying and Lex Luther sucked..If Lex Luther was going to kill billions of people then sell beach front properties to make himself a fortune,who in the world would buy them since he killed billions of people? everyone would be dead but him??With the kind of technology he had, it didn't matter how many people die. He affectively rules the world. And hell, with a few billion dead, the remaining peoples wouldn't dare challenge him.
And some of you people are calling this a good movie???Pretty much, yeah.

[DACrowe]

Well I tend to think outside comic films is a better judge and that The Ususal Suspects trumps anything Lee has done (and yes, that includes Brokeback Mountain). As for comic films, every Bryan Singer comic book movie has been good (Superman Returns, X-Men) or great (X2) and Lee's single comic book movie (Hulk) is uneven, slow, poorly edited and despite some great performances and visuals, rather mediocre.

So why compare the two then?

[Cyclops]

I think partypooper ruined franchises more than they did.

[Ben Urich]

Threads like this make baby Jesus cry. :(
A better thread would be Joel Schumacher vs Tim Story. :down

[Marvel Man]

Bryan Singer didnt mess any adaptions up. As for Ang Lee i didnt really like the Hulk but thats just my opinion.

[xii22_loop]

bryan singer all the way!

[Shuley]

I liked the Hulk more than Superman Returns,I thought the Hulk was more well done of the 2.Ang Lee is a better director than Bryan Singer anyhow.

[HighVoltage]

Superman Returns Sucked! Yea OK,Like I really buy the whole "Lois Lane and her husband really own a helecopter with a beachfront property in what looks like Manhatten" Gee they own all that working for the Daily Planet. Just another one of the many plot holes this film has.

Like I really buy the "my son is my husbands' son" Yea ok look how little Lois Lane is! After say 4-5 months she'd be showing her pregnacy after superman knocked her up,What did she do? Jump in James Madson's bed right after she got some from superman? You really think a women like Lois Lane would jump in his bed right after superman then say that it's father is someone who really isn't? Besides, Kitty was annoying and Lex Luther sucked..If Lex Luther was going to kill billions of people then sell beach front properties to make himself a fortune,who in the world would buy them since he killed billions of people? everyone would be dead but him?? And some of you people are calling this a good movie???

Thanks dude, your commentary about this movie is clear, and I have another question, If Superman is stabbed with Kryptonite, by Lex Luthor, why Superman can lift an entire continent, full of Kryptonite!!!!!, but Superman have problems to lift a plane?

I remember Superman 1, and Christopher Reeve is saving, and lifting a plane without problems, but this Superdiapers, a.k.a Brandon Routh, is too weak, when he is saving a plane, but too strong, when he is lifting a contintent, with Kryptonite?

[Ben Urich]

Thanks dude, your commentary about this movie is clear, and I have another question, If Superman is stabbed with Kryptonite, by Lex Luthor, why Superman can lift an entire continent, full of Kryptonite!!!!!, but Superman have problems to lift a plane?

The continent wasn't made of Kryptonite. It was primarily normal Kryptonian crystal with elements of Kryptonite fused in. I'd say it was maybe 70/30, although no one really knows for sure.

I remember Superman 1, and Christopher Reeve is saving, and lifting a plane without problems, but this Superdiapers, a.k.a Brandon Routh, is too weak, when he is saving a plane, but too strong, when he is lifting a contintent, with Kryptonite?

I imagine that "Superdiapers" (how mature of you :rolleyes: ) wouldn't have had any trouble with the plane at all if it didn't have, you know, PASSENGERS on it. He had to lower it in a way that wouldn't harm anyone.
The lifting of New Krypton is symbolic: it shows us that it is sheer willpower and determination, not superpowers, that make Superman a true hero.

[CConn]

Talking to HighVoltage is like talking to a piece of plywood.

Well, at least you don't have any expectations with plywood.

[Red Mask]

Bryan Singer, at least Ang Lee's Hulk movie had good action scenes.

Superman Returns is by far the most homoerotic superhero movie Ive ever seen. I didnt know if I was watching a Superman movie or a softcore gay porn with a man in a superman outfit. At least ang lee didnt try to force his sexuality upon us. When Superman got beat up on new krypton I didnt know if Lex Luthor was going to stab him or start making out with him. Were those 3 guys beating him up or gang banging him? I couldnt tell. Bryan Singer needs to keep his no-so-subtle gay references to himself and not put them in his movies.

Holy ****! What kind of logic is that? I saw no gay references!

[HighVoltage]

The continent wasn't made of Kryptonite. It was primarily normal Kryptonian crystal with elements of Kryptonite fused in. I'd say it was maybe 70/30, although no one really knows for sure.



I imagine that "Superdiapers" (how mature of you :rolleyes: ) wouldn't have had any trouble with the plane at all if it didn't have, you know, PASSENGERS on it. He had to lower it in a way that wouldn't harm anyone.
The lifting of New Krypton is symbolic: it shows us that it is sheer willpower and determination, not superpowers, that make Superman a true hero.

What, the continent wasn`t made of Kryptonite? but in the movie is clearly, that continent is made of Kryptonite, so this movie is like: "pay the ticket, and leave your brain in the lobby of the theater", yes what a great movie.:supes::down

and for the second question, are you serious, so Superman can´t lift a plane, because the plane is full of passengers, and Superman have problems with that, because he `s trying to save them, when in the first movie and even in cartoons, that´s easy cake for someone with the power of Superman , but he can lift an entire continent, full of Kryptonite, and also, with Superman having a piece of Kryptonite, inside in him, but he can lift the continent because is "symbolic", what a poor answer, even my cousin of 10 years old, knows that Kryptonite kills Superman, and now on this movie, he is invulnerable to Kryptonite, yes what a great adaptation, not only from comics, but also from the first movies, and even worse, people are defending this lame movie, that´s funny.

[Dr.Dude]

Heh.... I'd actually be one to say both Singer and Lee directed two of the most innovative, amazing superhero movies ever made, so the question this thread poses just doesn't apply. :o ;)

[Red Mask]

It's reasons like this, that comic films decline in quality over time. Why? *****ing by ungrateful fans. Oh I'm horribly sorry it wasn't mad just as you liked it. You know what, then write a script, buy a studio, and direct the movie. Then it can be made just like you want it. Superman Returns for me was probably the greatest comic to film adaption I have ever ****ing seen. You know what, if Superman: The Movie were released to day this thread would be "who's worse Ang Lee or Richard Donner".

I don't expect everyone to like a god dammed movie. But try to be intelligent about it. Or you know what all those so called normal folk we talk about and say they're the closed minded idiots that make fun of us for liking comics, maybe they're right. Maybe they're right.

And I'm sorry if it didn't make 400 mil in a 2 hour time period. I'm sure as hell WB ain't panicking right now. So calm down.

Naw, it's reasons like this that we should ponder the marketing image of superheroes. The concept of Superman isn't the most sophisticated but it's the most famous. So why is the movie getting these results? WB, and perhaps the fans have overestimated the general audience.

[DACrowe]

And people forget Singer did X2, a far better film than either SR and Hulk by the way.

[Cyclops]

What, the continent wasn`t made of Kryptonite? but in the movie is clearly, that continent is made of Kryptonite, so this movie is like: "pay the ticket, and leave your brain in the lobby of the theater", yes what a great movie.:supes::down



Yet you liked X3, which required the brain-check fifteen times over. And you call me a hypocrite.

[roach]

What, the continent wasn`t made of Kryptonite? but in the movie is clearly, that continent is made of Kryptonite, so this movie is like: "pay the ticket, and leave your brain in the lobby of the theater", yes what a great movie.:supes::down


C'mon be honest...you hated this movie as soon as you bought your ticket

[CConn]

What, the continent wasn`t made of Kryptonite? but in the movie is clearly, that continent is made of Kryptonite, so this movie is like: "pay the ticket, and leave your brain in the lobby of the theater", yes what a great movie.:supes::downIf the island was clearly Kryptonite iin the film, it would've been completely green and glowing. But it wasn't. It was just as Old Ben said it was; 70/30 crystal/kryponite. So either you're blind, or don't have a brain to leave at the door period.

[HighVoltage]

If the island was clearly Kryptonite iin the film, it would've been completely green and glowing. But it wasn't. It was just as Old Ben said it was; 70/30 crystal/kryponite. So either you're blind, or don't have a brain to leave at the door period.

yeah, I don´t see the part where Superdiapers was lifting the island, and close to Brandon´s face, there are pieces of Kryptonite completly green and glowing.

Did you see that part?, because right now, I have a copy of this movie, and I can see the pieces of Kryptonite , now I´m looking for, a way like, I can take a picture from that scene, from my computer, for to show you, the green and glowing Kryptonite.

[CConn]

yeah, I don´t see the part where Superdiapers was lifting the island, and close to Brandon´s face, there are pieces of Kryptonite completly green and glowing.

Did you see that part?, because right now, I have a copy of this movie, and I can see the pieces of Kryptonite , now I´m looking for, a way like, I can take a picture from that scene, from my computer, for to show you, the green and glowing Kryptonite.Yes, that's because it was LACED with Kryptonite. As Ben and everyone else has been saying. If you can't understand the meaning of that simple concept, you really aren't fit to be having a discussion about the movie, or that sequence in particular.

[DACrowe]

Look no one isn't arguing that no part of the island isn't kryptonite but that the majority of the island is black rock.

And yes the majority is black rock as there is less green and more black to it. Hence, us saying that him lifting it was not as bad as lifting a whole continent of kryptonite which would be glowing green. And if we want to talk about implausability, how about Wolverine being demolcurlaized yet growing back his atoms. At that atomic scale that would have destroyed him. But we don't hear you *****ing about it. From what I recall lifting what was less than a third kryptonite all but killed Superman in this movie by the way.

And above all....it's FICTION.

[JLBats]

It's reasons like this, that comic films decline in quality over time. Why? *****ing by ungrateful fans. Oh I'm horribly sorry it wasn't mad just as you liked it. You know what, then write a script, buy a studio, and direct the movie. Then it can be made just like you want it. Superman Returns for me was probably the greatest comic to film adaption I have ever ****ing seen. You know what, if Superman: The Movie were released to day this thread would be "who's worse Ang Lee or Richard Donner".

I don't expect everyone to like a god dammed movie. But try to be intelligent about it. Or you know what all those so called normal folk we talk about and say they're the closed minded idiots that make fun of us for liking comics, maybe they're right. Maybe they're right.

And I'm sorry if it didn't make 400 mil in a 2 hour time period. I'm sure as hell WB ain't panicking right now. So calm down.

I'm willing to bet if the Godfather had come out today, dumbasses on the Internet would say it sucked and didn't measure up to the Mario Puzo book. The worst part of it is when you see fanboys who clearly have no CLUE how a film is written or put together complaining about a comic book movie's plot and suggesting that certain things should have been done to make it better... but those things literally have nothing to do with the theme of the movie and probably couldn't have fit into the structure of the film anyway.

[blind_fury]

Superman should be making Spider-man money. Instead it will be lucky to get a sequel. That's a HUGE failure.

[blind_fury]

Yes, that's because it was LACED with Kryptonite. As Ben and everyone else has been saying. If you can't understand the meaning of that simple concept, you really aren't fit to be having a discussion about the movie, or that sequence in particular.
Oh, so that huge green crystal next to Superman's head wasn't kryptonite. It was a white crystal LACED with kryptonite.

LMFAO!

[Ben Urich]

Superman should be making Spider-man money. Instead it will be lucky to get a sequel. That's a HUGE failure.

Perhaps commercially, it's a failure. But as a movie, it's far from it.

[CConn]

Oh, so that huge green crystal next to Superman's head wasn't kryptonite. It was a white crystal LACED with kryptonite.

LMFAO!What do you think that green crystal next to Superman's head was sliding out of? White Kryptonian crystal.

[Warhammer]

Superman Returns was great, but lackluster.