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Spider - Man

07-01-2006, 07:23 PM

"...THINK Oded Fuhr is perfect for Tony Stark" Thread

I just don't get it. He is EXACTLY as perfect for TS as Kal Penn would be for Peter Parker. In other words, NOT AT ALL! Fehr has a distinctly middle eastern look. Stark is not middle eastern. Jason Scott Lee is a good actor and has an awesome physique but would he be the perfect Captain America? No, because he has a ditinctly Asian/Polynesian look which Cap obviously does not

So someone please explain the logic to me of Oded being a good choice for Stark!

TheVileOne

07-02-2006, 01:25 AM

Spider - man, its mostly horny housewives.

That and people think because he has a black and white headshot where has short-hair and a goatee that he can play Spider-man.

Ironman24

07-02-2006, 08:22 AM

Well, as has been said here, the biggest reason why people want Oded Fehr for the role is because Wizard magazine did a fantasy casting call for Iron Man last year and they choose Oded Fehr for the role, saying he had the look and would be easy to sign to a three pic deal and it would be the break out role for him.
That's the first and only time I've seen his name connected with the role, I can't explain why its gotten to the leave its at now, but that article seems to the catalist for it.

Lone Wolf

07-02-2006, 02:04 PM

Leto Atrides

07-02-2006, 05:21 PM

I don't think he has a distictly Middle Eastern look. When you know his name is Oded and you see him in the Mummy or something you know it, but he could definitely pass for being Italian, which Tony Stark is. And he's not a bad actor at all, he just hasn't been in any big parts yet. As much as it would be nice to have Laurence Olivier in every part, a just "good" actor will often serve the purpose.

tecnowraith

07-02-2006, 06:04 PM

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/250648.jpg http://www.electricferret.com/battle/contenders/tonystark.jpg
Hmmm....

TheVileOne

07-03-2006, 01:51 AM

Besides the Wizard casting call, there are people who actually think he can be compared to play Stark. IMDB had him listed as "attached" to the role last month, but when Favreau was asked about it, his response was that Fehr wasn't anywhere near the film whatsoever.

Wizard and IMDB because they don't have any real or legitimate sources just print any **** they can find on the internet.

One month ago Wizard Magazine was still reporting that Cassavettes was still the director of Iron Man.

Seth71

07-03-2006, 05:24 PM

If it wasn't for the name or the fact people know he is, he wouldn't be automatically recognized as middle eastern. People like Clooney, Zane and Stamos could also be said to be middle eastern if they had middle eastern names. But since people know Oded is, the "prejudicetron" goes off instantly. One thing is for sure, one thing Stark doesn't seem to be (based on the way he's been drawn in the comics for all those years) is "Arian", no matter how much the prejudice bunch want he to be.

Oh, and Oded does look like Stark!

Leto Atrides

07-03-2006, 05:56 PM

One thing is for sure, one thing Stark doesn't seem to be (based on the way he's been drawn in the comics for all those years) is "Arian", no matter how much the prejudice bunch want he to be.

Tony Stark, real name Anthony, is at the least partially Italian. That was the point, to have him stand as a contrast to Cap, Thor, and the like. He's a smaller, swarthier, more immigrant stock sort of guy. He's all-American, in the sense that America is made of immigrants, not just Wasps and Aryans.

He's really one of the few heroes like that. People are either standard all-American white guys, or a distict minority. Tony's a mix.

Seth71

07-03-2006, 06:08 PM

Tony Stark, real name Anthony, is at the least partially Italian. That was the point, to have him stand as a contrast to Cap, Thor, and the like. He's a smaller, swarthier, more immigrant stock sort of guy. He's all-American, in the sense that America is made of immigrants, not just Wasps and Aryans.

He's really one of the few heroes like that. People are either standard all-American white guys, or a distict minority. Tony's a mix.

Exactly.

ISHMAEL

07-03-2006, 06:27 PM

Lone Wolf

07-04-2006, 01:59 AM

Wizard and IMDB because they don't have any real or legitimate sources just print any **** they can find on the internet.

One month ago Wizard Magazine was still reporting that Cassavettes was still the director of Iron Man.

The problem with IMDB, is that people can send in whatever they please whenever they want. Without any credibility as to what's false and what's true, meaning casting, characters, and even the plot.

Wizard is always two steps behind. Or out of nowhere, they'll report something completely different then what we're given from more trusted sites, with their own sources.

Aside from the "Fehr as Iron Man" scenario, IMDB also listed down Peter Cavoudias playing Al Carpeto. Which was also false, considering Favreau had yet to mention anything about using the character.

Radford

07-04-2006, 05:17 AM

the oded fehr as tony stark thing amuses me.

nonetheless, it is really silly.

for some reason though, i think Oded would make a good Lobo. :eek:

Spider - Man

07-04-2006, 09:12 AM

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/250648.jpg http://www.electricferret.com/battle/contenders/tonystark.jpg
Hmmm....

Hmmm...he has dark hair and a goatee. Hey wait, I have dark hair and a goatee...I"M perfect for the role of Tony Stark!!:rolleyes:

Spider - Man

07-04-2006, 09:14 AM

i dont think so i think mark walhberg would be perfect

Ok, what makes Wahlberg "perfect" for the role? He's a mediocre actor at best and he looks NOTHING like Stark! People are entitled to their own opinion but this is getting rediculous!

ISHMAEL

07-04-2006, 01:52 PM

Ok, what makes Wahlberg "perfect" for the role? He's a mediocre actor at best and he looks NOTHING like Stark! People are entitled to their own opinion but this is getting rediculous!

u want FISHY! FISHY! to play iron man ! :down **** i will always see him as the pimp from deuce bigalow who married a big tall *****

Leto Atrides

07-04-2006, 02:07 PM

u want FISHY! FISHY! to play iron man ! :down **** i will always see him as the pimp from deuce bigalow who married a big tall *****

Just because he was in a bad role in a terrible movie doesn't make him a bad actor. He's a classically trained actor. And just because you haven't seen him in anything else doesn't make him not qualified.

And if we were just judging by past roles, I think freaking being MARKY MARK is worse than Antoine Laconte.

ISHMAEL

07-04-2006, 02:10 PM

Just because he was in a bad role in a terrible movie doesn't make him a bad actor. He's a classically trained actor. And just because you haven't seen him in anything else doesn't make him not qualified.

And if we were just judging by past roles, I think freaking being MARKY MARK is worse than Antoine Laconte.

**** MARKY MARK HAD COME A LONG WAY HAVE YOU SEEN FOUR BROTHERS AND THE ONLY OTHER MOVIE I SEEN ODED FHER WAS IN RESIDENT EVIL 2 AND HE SUCKED IN THAT

Leto Atrides

07-04-2006, 02:19 PM

**** MARKY MARK HAD COME A LONG WAY HAVE YOU SEEN FOUR BROTHERS AND THE ONLY OTHER MOVIE I SEEN ODED FHER WAS IN RESIDENT EVIL 2 AND HE SUCKED IN THAT

Whoa, calm the hell down. As I said, he's a good stage actor. Most of his past roles were bad, but they were bad parts in the first place. If it was well-written, and he botched it, I could understand, but it's not like anything else in Resident Evil or Deuce Bigalow were of quality. Wahlberg has done crap in the past too. But he was given a chance for better roles, and did well. Fehr hasn't.

He was decent in the Mummy as Ardeth Bey, but it wasn't that big a character.
http://www.sworddragon.com/passions/images/bey3.jpg

ISHMAEL

07-04-2006, 02:25 PM

Whoa, calm the hell down. As I said, he's a good stage actor. Most of his past roles were bad, but they were bad parts in the first place. If it was well-written, and he botched it, I could understand, but it's not like anything else in Resident Evil or Deuce Bigalow were of quality. Wahlberg has done crap in the past too. But he was given a chance for better roles, and did well. Fehr hasn't.

He was decent in the Mummy as Ardeth Bey, but it wasn't that big a character.
http://www.sworddragon.com/passions/images/bey3.jpg

srry bout that i just too lazy to take off the caps loc and he was ok as him in the mummy

Leto Atrides

07-04-2006, 02:34 PM

srry bout that i just too lazy to take off the caps loc and he was ok as him in the mummy

Alright, thought you were e-yelling.

Darthphere

07-08-2006, 05:47 PM

People that listen to Wizard about casting movies should be quarantined.

Spider - Man

07-09-2006, 09:51 AM

People that listen to Wizard about casting movies should be quarantined.

Thank you. It's the whole Wizard casting mentality that makes people think you HAVE to have a name actor play a superhero when there's every likelyhood that there is an unknown actor with good chops who would be perfect for the part. Hold an open casting call, get the right person for the lead role, use good marketing, name directors, and name actors in supporting roles to draw viewers.

Kaboom

07-09-2006, 04:21 PM

...like brandon routh?

Spider - Man

07-09-2006, 04:45 PM

...like brandon routh?

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Spider - Man

07-09-2006, 04:45 PM

...like brandon routh?

I wouldn't know as I haven't seen the movie, but from the previews I've seen, I'd say they could have done a lot worse. I was surprised to note how much he looked like Chris Reeve and then when I heard him speak, he actually sounds a LOT like Reeve. I think they were going more for someone who was like Chris Reeve than someone who was like Superman - if that makes any sense.

If you were being sarcastic and have seen SR, what didn't you like about Routh as Supes?

Kaboom

07-09-2006, 07:49 PM

Spider - Man

07-10-2006, 04:54 PM

i was being sarcastic...but in all honesty i actually agree with your post. the reason i wasnt thrilled with routh's perfrmace was because it felt to me like he was playing chris reeve playing superman.

I'm probably going to see the movie in the next few weeks. Heard a lot of people say the reason they were unhappy with the film is the way Supes was almost a stalker in it!

I think my theory is right in general. I think usually there is some unknown actor out there that would be better for a lead superhero role than any known actor. I think Chris Reeve is a perfect example of that. Imagine if they had put Redford or Newman or Burt Reynolds or Dustin Hoffman in the role instead because they were well known actors.

I think Singer should have found someone who looked and sounded like Superman. But because I think he was trying so hard to seek Donner's approval he instead tried to duplicate Reeve. Just like duping analogue tape, you get a copy but you lose some quality. I think with Routh we got a duplicate of Reeve but with less quality.

gambitfire

07-11-2006, 09:27 PM

^ considering the era, i wouldn't be surprised if an A-list had worked out :p.

is there another thread with nominees for Tony?

Warhammer

07-11-2006, 10:49 PM

Fehr has a distinctly middle eastern look. Stark is not middle eastern.

Oded Fehr is Iron Man.
Tony Stark never exactly looked like a "typical white guy". :o :down

http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/showtime/sleeper_cell_photos/oded_fehr/sleepcell_lipson.jpg

He is Iron Man. :mad: :ghost:

TheVileOne

07-11-2006, 10:55 PM

Leto Atrides

07-11-2006, 11:19 PM

Sorry he's not.

The guy is a supporting player for life. He can't carry a movie or a role like Tony Stark.

Once again, having short hair and a goatee doesn't make you Tony Stark.

He also has the accent which he can't do a good job of hiding.

He's never been given a leading role before, so we don't know how he'd do. I'm sure he can work on the accent.

It's hard to judge, as most of his roles are bit parts, and definite characters. He's never been a lead as a normal character.

Spider - Man

07-12-2006, 07:56 AM

Oded Fehr is Iron Man.
Tony Stark never exactly looked like a "typical white guy". :o :down

http://us.tv1.yimg.com/tv.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/tv_pix/showtime/sleeper_cell_photos/oded_fehr/sleepcell_lipson.jpg

He is Iron Man. :mad: :ghost:

Again you fail to answer the question: why IS he Iron Man? Because Tony Stark "never looked like a typical white guy?" Because Wizard mag says so? I don't think he's even close to being Stark! You must be his publicist! Only reason I can think of!:p

Leto Atrides

07-12-2006, 12:46 PM

Again you fail to answer the question: why IS he Iron Man? Because Tony Stark "never looked like a typical white guy?" Because Wizard mag says so? I don't think he's even close to being Stark! You must be his publicist! Only reason I can think of!:p

Well, you said he shouldn't be just because of his appearance. And he answered that concern. That's why he quoted it.

Warhammer

07-12-2006, 08:39 PM

Sorry he's not.

The guy is a supporting player for life. He can't carry a movie or a role like Tony Stark.

Once again, having short hair and a goatee doesn't make you Tony Stark.

He also has the accent which he can't do a good job of hiding.

Ok, many "supporting players" have became popular movie stars carrying a movie by themselves. Many actor today have been supporting players at one time or another. Many superheroes have been portrayed by "supporting players" or unknowns: Thomas Jane, Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, Eric Bana, Ron Perlman, etc.

Besides, I love the idea of him being Iron Man, not because of short hair and a goatee. :down

Also, Fehr could mask his accent. He did it in god-awful Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

Spider - Man

07-13-2006, 09:35 AM

Well, you said he shouldn't be just because of his appearance. And he answered that concern. That's why he quoted it.

Ok, let's cut to it; He keeps saying Oded IS IM. Well what makes him more IM than, say this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0315143/photogallery

I've posted about this guy playing some Marvel character before. He even LOOKS like a Jack Kirby character, for cripes sakes! His names Zen Gesner and he used to play Sinbad on tv. I certainly think he's more of a 'lady killer' than Fuhr. He's a good actor. So why is Oded MORE "Iron Man" than him?

TheVileOne

07-13-2006, 06:35 PM

Ok, many "supporting players" have became popular movie stars carrying a movie by themselves. Many actor today have been supporting players at one time or another. Many superheroes have been portrayed by "supporting players" or unknowns: Thomas Jane, Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh, Eric Bana, Ron Perlman, etc.

For starters, Thomas Jane had played lead roles before pre-Punisher. And he did damn good jobs with them. Same with Ron Perlman and Eric Bana before Hellboy and The Hulk.

There's a reason he's not getting lead roles.

Besides, I love the idea of him being Iron Man, not because of short hair and a goatee. :down

Why?

Also, Fehr could mask his accent. He did it in god-awful Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

Yeah and it sounded God-awful. It's like when Ewan McGregor tries to hide it, he does a poor job of it.