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Angamb
07-03-2006, 06:05 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6098/15288roguelnew2peq12mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I create this thread to post all the hopes and ideas for the character in the next sequels. Her relationship with Bobby, Gambit, the team, her powers...
Post all what you want.
I posted that manip, like an idea of how I see Rogue in the next sequels, her evolution to the Rogue all know, the one who will make Gambit falls in love with her.
She looks good.As for powers give her back her old ones but she can now control them and through the movie she absorbs and keeps another power.As for her and bobby they should already be broken up when the film starts and rogue has been away from the institute for 18 mths too 2 yrs and returns cause her powers have.She should meet gambit as he's working for what ever villian they have in the spin-off and have a flirtous relationship and have him join the school at the end and maybe end it with them doing more than flirting.
Rogue's Hand
07-05-2006, 01:39 AM
I personally think they should scrap the Ms. Marvel Rogue idea for Rogue
in the movie. They were already acting iffy about it when asked during the filming of X3. They should give Rogue her new Sunfire powers because in the comic, she had just recovered from losing them completely also.
In the comic she also killed Sunfire by mistake. They pushed him on her
in order for her to be able to fight off Lady Deathstrike. I heard they signed Kelly Hu for future films, maybe that can come into action?:confused:
And honestly, her powers would resemble that of the Human Torch, only better!:up: :supes:
http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/2%20BackPack%20and%20Xmen%20uni/RogueGambit_image_L.jpg
Rogue currently wields Sunfire's (http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Sunfire_%28Shiro_Yoshida%29) powers:
Solar Flare: Rogue's mutant powers enable her to absorb solar and other radiation to generate the process of ionized matter (usually air) through a mentally-triggered unknown biochemical process so that it is converted to plasma, the superheated state of matter. Plasma is the state in which matter making up the sun exists; hence, Rogue refers to her projecting “solar fire”. Hence she can sheath her body in flame.
Flight: can use her powers to create super-heated air currents which push her forward through the air, enabling her to fly. Sometimes this super-heated air is visible as a trail of flame behind Rogue. The upper limit to the speed Rogue can achieve in flight is not yet known, although it is known to be greater than that of the Angel, who can reach 150 miles per hour.
Plasma Blasts: ability to project the flames she generates at powerful blasts of energy.
Plasma Emanation: Rogue can generate plasma temperatures which match those that can be generated by the Human Torch, reaching about 1,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit at maximum level. She can also use her power in a massive blast similar to Johnny Storm's "Nova Burst". However, Rogue has much more control over the area of effect, enough to where one person may feel like they have been sunbathing all day to total incineration of another target.
Heat Signature Sense: ability to sense beings by the heat signature that they give off.
Plasma Shield: ability to manipulate the plasma around her to form an aura that can melt incoming bullets are stave off other attacks. Solar Shielding Psi-field: She is protected from the radiation she emits by a short-range psionic force field which automatically comes into being whenever air friction, and also prevents excessive amounts of light from the plasma from reaching her eyes so as to blind or damage them. Rogue's body emits a protective field whenever she uses her powers. However, it is speculated that she can generate power in excess of her natural protection.
It would be so hot to see her do that on screen!:eek:
MaleRogue
07-05-2006, 02:29 AM
Well I would like to see her relationship grow with Bobby...
No Gambit please....
Here are some Rogue Spin-Off posters
I would like her to control her powers to...
And maybe get sunfire's power and her strength and flying abbility...
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9735/fa11a20c8mc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9599/a7c211430jq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7133/b06443917jf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9246/rogueicemanwallpaper14ap2tw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Rogue's Hand
07-05-2006, 04:26 AM
I'm sorry but Bobby is too much of a little boy for Rogue.
Notice she has a thing for Wolverine.
She needs that edge. Bobby is great with Kitty, to be honest.
Gambit is in demand, and if they picked the right bad boy to play
the part (cajun accent and all:) ), it would be hot.
Plus, Gambit flirts with Rogue all the time, it was cute to
see dem arguing because he always said he didn't care to kiss
her, even if he died, LOL.
I say Gambit is a GO:up:
Iced_up
07-05-2006, 10:50 AM
I think that Rogue should stay at the school but have ended the relationship with Bobby, she shouldn'y have her powers straight away, maybe a thrird/half way through the film she would get them back. Personally, i'd rather see Rogue with Gambit than Bobby, bring Gambit in just after Rogue's powers manifest, maybe not staright into the X-men but introduce his character.
Rogue's Hand
07-06-2006, 12:55 AM
I think that Rogue should stay at the school but have ended the relationship with Bobby, she shouldn'y have her powers straight away, maybe a thrird/half way through the film she would get them back. Personally, i'd rather see Rogue with Gambit than Bobby, bring Gambit in just after Rogue's powers manifest, maybe not staright into the X-men but introduce his character.
Exactly! Just introducing him would please many:up:
Mdizzle
07-06-2006, 01:00 AM
I'm sorry but Bobby is too much of a little boy for Rogue.
Notice she has a thing for Wolverine.
She needs that edge. Bobby is great with Kitty, to be honest.
Gambit is in demand, and if they picked the right bad boy to play
the part (cajun accent and all:) ), it would be hot.
Plus, Gambit flirts with Rogue all the time, it was cute to
see dem arguing because he always said he didn't care to kiss
her, even if he died, LOL.
I say Gambit is a GO:up:
I liked Bobby/Rogue, movieverse. Movie Rogue didn't have much of an "edge" either so Bobby's quiet affection suited her well IMO. Kitty isn't great with Bobby either...I dunno. Keep Bobby, if Gambit's introduced, add him in as a love triangle candidate. Movie Bobby is more the sweet guy, Gambit would be the smoothtalker. Movie Rogue's not really as feisty as in the comics, so she could really have either one.
f4faith
07-06-2006, 08:53 AM
I liked Bobby/Rogue, movieverse.
They bored me mindless.
Movie Rogue didn't have much of an "edge" either
Which exactly the problem. If Rogue returns to actually be in another movie - I want her to get an edge and darn quick or I just won't care. I'm sick of whimpy whiny movie Rogue. The giving up of her powers should throw her into being an outcast at Xavier's - something she obviously didn't put much thought into,and I love the idea of her leaving the place to go on another road trip and by extension that ending her relationship with Bobby. I'd start with her on the road and fill in what happened. Whoever said have her develop as a character, have her powers return and later meet up with Gambit sounds great to me. Actually if possible I'd have her meet up with Mystique first (hinting at their comic relationship) because of the lost of powers and spend some time together surviving maybe then meeting up with say Essex and Gambit. Then when they both regain their powers, Rogue has to make a choice on who she sides with ending up with her returning to the X-Men in a whole new standing and attitude. Go Rogue.
Kitty isn't great with Bobby either...I dunno.
Don't see why not. Kitty was cute and fun. They worked better for me that how whiny they made Rogue.
Mdizzle
07-06-2006, 12:08 PM
I see it more as angsty Rogue. I guess it all could have been stemming from her runaway past, and knowing that she alienates everyone she came to know, which was very few ppl. Rogue seemed more "brooding", which I enjoyed for movie purposes. In the comics I'm sure it's easier to make the characters a bit more "larger than life" sometimes, and in Rogue's case she was definitely more forward. I guess really in a sense movie and comic Rogue are two different characters, movieverse being the SHY southern belle. Also, I suppose in terms of powers too, movieverse is limited, so might feel a little more helpless without flying abilities and superstrength. Who knows.
I would put Kitty with Bobby just to act like as a s**disturber for their relationship. Makes it more fun. Which is ultimately what Gambit would do were he introduced, ack, but either way.
duo_gabo
07-06-2006, 07:49 PM
i just love to see rogue to kick a** in x4...
Mdizzle
07-07-2006, 03:24 PM
^^ which is what we SHOULd have seen in X3, but ultimately the focus was not really in continuing in the direction of the previous two movies. Rogue should have "become an Xman" by X3, and therefore kicked ass. X2 by the end, asking about the uniforms, flying the xjet, and even in the final scene with the president, it set everything up for her to really come out in battle and as an Xman. X3 sort of disregarded that. Hopefully X4 has her up and at 'em, since without jean and scott, they need some extra help lol.
Rogue's Hand
07-08-2006, 02:06 AM
^^ which is what we SHOULd have seen in X3, but ultimately the focus was not really in continuing in the direction of the previous two movies. Rogue should have "become an Xman" by X3, and therefore kicked ass. X2 by the end, asking about the uniforms, flying the xjet, and even in the final scene with the president, it set everything up for her to really come out in battle and as an Xman. X3 sort of disregarded that. Hopefully X4 has her up and at 'em, since without jean and scott, they need some extra help lol.
I totally agree with you. Then they wonder why Rogue fans are so pissed.
She was setup to kick butt in part 3! I bet Singer would've done it!
Rogue is just so damn fly, and if Ratner was smart he would've made her look cool in X3 because she's the leader of the X-Men currently:up:
She's a bad b***h and is not given the credit she deserves.
Halle got whooped by Calisto:confused:
What da heck? Rogue would've been taking Juggernaut wall through wall,
blow to blow make 'em fall like dominoes! Thas what makes everyone like her in the comic, though now she doesn't have Ms. Marvel's power she still does huge damage. The funny thing about it is I have a feeling Rogue just might be close to gaining control of her powers. In the preview for the new
X-Men # 188 there are images of her touching Emma, then shooting beams from her eyes like Cyke:eek:
Ratner/Singer or whoever the heck remakes the next one needs to know that Rogue is up to bat. Wolverine and her were both main characters in the first flick. They should both end with their own spin offs in that case.:)
Watch Rogue become something crazy hot in the comics:up: :)
duo_gabo
07-09-2006, 08:59 PM
agreed... Rogue deserves more action... and pls also add gambit in x4... hehehe
Mother_Askani
07-10-2006, 01:32 AM
If Rogue is in X4, the best direction to take her character would be to make her part of the Brotherhood. But if she still has lost her powers, that's difficult.
Rogue needs to be edgier. I liked the casting of Anna, at first, since it showed that Singer & the producers wanted Rogue to be more than eye-candy. But Rogue can't stay the Kitty/Jubilee type character forever. It's boring. She needs to nearly kill someone.
The X-Men taking in Rogue in issue #171 is essential to what they stand for - that they're willing to accept an enemy who basically killed their friend for the sake of helping a fellow mutant. That's far more powerful than any Bobby/Rogue 'shipping.
Mdizzle
07-10-2006, 03:42 PM
^^ I think, based on what we've seen from the previous movies, a transition to the brotherhood would be a difficult, if not interesting set up. Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but just the way she has been portrayed in the movies and her character development so far has her, in my eyes, staying with the Xmen and growing there, in X4. Maybe she'd be better in the brotherhood, but she needs something strong to link these two steps together: it would be weird to see her all of a sudden resentful of the Xmen and then just join the brotherhood for X4. However, from X2-X3, there were alot of (mostly uncredible IMO) leaps and bounds in terms of plot and character (non) development, so who knows, it could work. Maybe she's "seduced" into joining the brotherhood, but I think if it were to happen, something should have been hinted at or taken in that direction in X3, so to set things up nicely. I agree about the Kitty/Jubilee type argument, and especially with the type of powers she has, coming close or actually killing someone would be an interesting situation with Rogue. MAybe for X4 she nearly or actually kills someone, or uses her powers on someone out of spite...then has an emotional overhaul and joins the brotherhood knowing that with these recent events, she can no longer consider herself an "XMan" or something. Once again, I wouldn't disagree with the idea of Rogue in the Brotherhood, I just think whoever writes up the storylines would have a lot to tweak, taking up from the mess of X3.
No it just wouldn't make sense for her to join the BH-plus with mags gone they wont be the BH they will be a#called something else,but I suppose if she has left the school and is traveling she could run into pyro.
Rogue's Hand
07-11-2006, 12:48 PM
I think it would be hot if she joined the Brotherhood.
It would give Rogue the edge she needs and would also stay sort
of loyal to the comics :up:
It would also make sense being that now Mystique doesn't really
deal with Magneto. They can make them cross paths.
They can also slide Nightcrawler in there just to reveal some
more storylines to evolve these characters.
Rogue can run into Mystique afterwards.
They can have Mystique deal with Blob, Pyro, Avalanche, and others.
Rogue is so pissed and alarmed at the fact that the cure didn't work.
She could have kissed Bobby and made him pass out, then there can be a scene where she see's him in the hospital and leaves scared not knowing where to go(kind of like in X1). She runs into Mystique and decides to stay with her due to the love and comfort Mystique is showing her.
Plus she'll reveal she was her step mother.
I think it's a great idea. Rogue can gain her powers by killing someone,
then the X-Men forgive her and accept her back in the team.
cardslinger
07-11-2006, 01:39 PM
I think Rogue should get her new powers when her old powers resurface.
Spider-Fan83
07-12-2006, 08:03 AM
I think Rogue should get her new powers when her old powers resurface.
you know, I keep hearing poeple say they want something like that to happen, how exactly would they work that in to a storyline, what, is she going to just happen to be holding on too (or making out with), some super powered person, when her powers return (if they do return), and she takes they power. lol
you know, I keep hearing poeple say they want something like that to happen, how exactly would they work that in to a storyline, what, is she going to just happen to be holding on too (or making out with), some super powered person, when her powers return (if they do return), and she takes they power. lol
Rogue could start experiencing a return of her absorbtion powers and head back into the lab for another cure.
But this time the doctor at thre lab is actually Apocalypse in disguise who attempts to control her for his own purposes.
He allows the return of her own powers and then forces her into contact with some mutants with superstrength and flight abilities.
At first Rogue's under Apoc's control and beats on the x-men, but due to all of the voices in her head the brainwashing doesn't stick she and ends up fighting against him.
At least we'd finally get to see her do some major league butt kickin.
Spider-Fan83
07-12-2006, 02:07 PM
Rogue could start experiencing a return of her absorbtion powers and head back into the lab for another cure.
But this time the doctor at thre lab is actually Apocalypse in disguise who attempts to control her for his own purposes.
He allows the return of her own powers and then forces her into contact with some mutants with superstrength and flight abilities.
At first Rogue's under Apoc's control and beats on the x-men, but due to all of the voices in her head the brainwashing doesn't stick she and ends up fighting against him.
At least we'd finally get to see her do some major league butt kickin.
umm, interesting, concept. though, honest I can’t see Apocalypse being in any future movie. (not that I wouldn't want to see it) this concept storyline, could also work with it being Mystique, as her power would of returned as well (before rogues), and she wants to turn rogue super powered to use her to start up a brother hood or something.
just a thought
Mdizzle
07-12-2006, 06:25 PM
^^ true true. As far as the storylines are going (based on where the first 3 took everything), I dont really know how the writers would be able to fit in Apocalypse. Something with Mystique could work, and I can see her as being a very seductive and manipulative force that helps persuade Rogue to either join the brotherhood or just be in for some general nastiness. That is, provided that Mystique regains her powers and is back with the brotherhood (X3 sorta screwd everything up)
Rogue's Hand
07-13-2006, 01:16 AM
Rogue could start experiencing a return of her absorbtion powers and head back into the lab for another cure.
But this time the doctor at thre lab is actually Apocalypse in disguise who attempts to control her for his own purposes.
He allows the return of her own powers and then forces her into contact with some mutants with superstrength and flight abilities.
At first Rogue's under Apoc's control and beats on the x-men, but due to all of the voices in her head the brainwashing doesn't stick she and ends up fighting against him.
At least we'd finally get to see her do some major league butt kickin.
Great idea! And Angel could be controled too and become Archangel!:up:
Style 92
07-19-2006, 05:43 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6098/15288roguelnew2peq12mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I create this thread to post all the hopes and ideas for the character in the next sequels. Her relationship with Bobby, Gambit, the team, her powers...
Post all what you want.
I posted that manip, like an idea of how I see Rogue in the next sequels, her evolution to the Rogue all know, the one who will make Gambit falls in love with her.I hope she gets her power back.
Angamb
07-20-2006, 08:39 AM
Well, here it is what we should see in the next sequel:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4658/rogueflyingff01adt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
would look great, no?
xmenfilesfan05
07-20-2006, 09:15 AM
You need to give credit where credit is due.
Angamb
07-21-2006, 08:40 AM
I've said the original manip is not mine. there isn't a problem.
gap5ewl
07-24-2006, 11:56 AM
rogue in the sequel should be like this:
since her powers are "gone" she is learning new fighting tactics, primarily from wolverine
storm, not happy with her decision, does make rogue her "right hand woman" teaching her to fly the jet and such.
she feels isolated from the other students for tacking the cure
she realizes that taking the cure to salvage her relationship with bobby wasnt exactly a good idea... primarily kitty
she starts to have random burst of incredible strength, agility, reflexes. and her old powers as well whis is concerning her and also changing her personality from shy to stong and a dont take **** from know one type..
she meets gambit
at the end of the movie, her powers are back and she has a second mutation: enhanced strength, agility, reflexes, stamina
X-Gal123
07-24-2006, 04:04 PM
I think Rogue should get new powers in the next movie. Here's how I see it should happen, Rogue should take a break from Xaviers after getting the cure, Storm would NOT make her leave but Rogue would feel like she didn't belong so she needed to take time to get her head together. While she was gone the government would annouce that the cure was not permenant, realizing that Rogue would not know this the X-men go in search of her to bring her back.
In the meantime Rogue is in some city with really tall buildings when she sees someone that looks like they are getting ready to jump off of the building. She gets up onto the roof and tries to talk sense into the person because the X-men morals are still with her. She asks why the person wants to die and the person responed because the cure wasn't permenant and now, even though she could live with her powers, she couldn't live without her husband who was going to leave her if she didn't get the cure.
Rogue was shocked to hear that the cure wasn't permenant, but put her personal feelings aside because she couldn't let this girl hurt herself. She tries to talk sense into her, saying how if the guy couldn't love her than he wasn't worth it, her thoughts drifting to Bobby for a moment, then sharing that she got cured.
The woman determined to stop living because she couldn't live with out her husband so she pulls Rogue off of the roof with her because Rogue would have caught her if she just jumped off. While they are falling Rogue's powers return and she accidently drains the womans powers really fast because her powers hadn't been active for a while so they were stronger. Rogue stops herself from smashing into ground by flying.
The X-men appear on the scene and see Rogue falling and they think she will die. Both Bobby and Logan's hearts seemed to stop for a moment before she hit the ground. They were amazed to she that she could fly and she was not dead. This is how Rogue would get her Ms. Marvel powers and set up her new arc and since her powers developed she would get memories and carol would hate her for stopping her from dying because bow she would be in a coma, not dead, not alive and without her husband, so Rogue would have trouble with her powers.
Wow, this is probably my longest post ever, sorry if it doesn't make any sense.
Angamb
07-26-2006, 06:37 PM
Good idea for her getting the original powers. But really doubt the studio do something as good as this, they'll always destroy so many big possibilities for our x-men.
And then, in term of flying, do you think in three films we have seen a good flying sequence? In X3 both Storm and Jean "flying" but that was totally poor. fox seems to be unable to do big and good action sequences, specially flying, so... we'll never be satisfied. Sad, but apparently the reality.
xmenfilesfan05
07-27-2006, 08:56 AM
Well, here it is what we should ee in the next sequel:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4658/rogueflyingff01adt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
would look great, no?
No where in this post does it say this manipulation isn't yours. And yes I agree, this would look great :)
@JeanGrey
07-27-2006, 09:11 AM
Yeah, let's see a flying Rogue. It is certain her powers returns and she may absorb someone else's flying or extra stamina powers by touching them.
What about leaving Xavier's institute because of a conflict with someone (Rogue has always been a problematic teen in movies and not really calm in comics also), still without powers, meets Gambit and hangs around with him, and in a conflict in Japan meets Sunfire and gets his powers! We need to see a decisive Rogue with stamina and more power.
After that, she gets back to mansion with Gambit who is joining X-Men, and alrhough she has strong feelings for Bobby, they realise that things between them simply don't work out cause she has changed a lot after her wondering around. After trying to get this over she begins to flirt with Gambit, but without having a relationship with him (that's how X4 ends, let us find out about their relationship in X5:))
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http://www.gambityrogue.net/galeria/gyr/003.jpg
Spider-Fan83
07-29-2006, 05:32 PM
seeing on how the movie version of leech is a (somewhat) normal looking kid instead of a green toad face freak, that rogue and leech would make the perfect couple,(before taken the cure, or if her powers return) he would nuatualize her power so they can touch lol
Mini Wolfsbane
07-30-2006, 11:18 PM
I think Rogue should get new powers in the next movie. Here's how I see it should happen, Rogue should take a break from Xaviers after getting the cure, Storm would NOT make her leave but Rogue would feel like she didn't belong so she needed to take time to get her head together. While she was gone the government would annouce that the cure was not permenant, realizing that Rogue would not know this the X-men go in search of her to bring her back.
In the meantime Rogue is in some city with really tall buildings when she sees someone that looks like they are getting ready to jump off of the building. She gets up onto the roof and tries to talk sense into the person because the X-men morals are still with her. She asks why the person wants to die and the person responed because the cure wasn't permenant and now, even though she could live with her powers, she couldn't live without her husband who was going to leave her if she didn't get the cure.
Rogue was shocked to hear that the cure wasn't permenant, but put her personal feelings aside because she couldn't let this girl hurt herself. She tries to talk sense into her, saying how if the guy couldn't love her than he wasn't worth it, her thoughts drifting to Bobby for a moment, then sharing that she got cured.
The woman determined to stop living because she couldn't live with out her husband so she pulls Rogue off of the roof with her because Rogue would have caught her if she just jumped off. While they are falling Rogue's powers return and she accidently drains the womans powers really fast because her powers hadn't been active for a while so they were stronger. Rogue stops herself from smashing into ground by flying.
The X-men appear on the scene and see Rogue falling and they think she will die. Both Bobby and Logan's hearts seemed to stop for a moment before she hit the ground. They were amazed to she that she could fly and she was not dead. This is how Rogue would get her Ms. Marvel powers and set up her new arc and since her powers developed she would get memories and carol would hate her for stopping her from dying because bow she would be in a coma, not dead, not alive and without her husband, so Rogue would have trouble with her powers.
Wow, this is probably my longest post ever, sorry if it doesn't make any sense.
I don't like the idea of suicide or attempts in any medium, but I do like how it's handled in your idea, as Carol doesn't really die and all.
It makes a lot of sense, except the part about
Carol marrying a normal human and him wanting her to take the cure,since
their powers emerge at puberty, (I can't recall if Carol was really a mutant or not,though), unless she kept her powers well hidden,
why would her husband marry a mutant in the first place ?
Since the movies aren't the X-Evo cartoon, I guess it would be a natural step for her to have her other powers, but IMO, no sufire powers!
If it 'aint broke, don't fix it!!
She's best without any hang-ups of new powers that non-comic readers
won't understand.
seeing on how the movie version of leech is a (somewhat) normal looking kid instead of a green toad face freak, that rogue and leech would make the perfect couple,(before taken the cure, or if her powers return) he would nuatualize her power so they can touch lol
Yeah if rogue was a kiddy fiddler-she is like five yrs older tahn him.ewwwwwwwww
PhoenixFire
08-01-2006, 09:37 AM
I tried to imagine an X4 to fix X3, and it involved the Cure not only being impermanent, but having it eventually cause additional mutation. I mean, we're talking about a serum taken from a mutant whose pwoers are to suppress other mutant's power, theoretically made into a 'cure' by using some sort of means of combining it with the 'cured' subject's DNA, that sounds like it can foul up pretty easilly.
Thus, The Cure of X3 becomes the Legacy Virus of X4. X4 'Legacy Virus' greatly accelerates existing powers and sometimes catalyzes secondary mutations. In some cases the host rejects these mutations, causing them to die (like Senator Kelly in X1), in Rogue's case her body manages to handle the changes, and she gains increased absorption powers, flight, and super strength.
If they need a 'scientific explanation' it can be claimed that the energy she borrows from others allows her to project a limited psychokinetic field allowing her to reinforce her body with tk energy allowing her to shield herself from physical harm, move heavy objects, and reverse the pull of gravity on her own body.
Spider-Fan83
08-01-2006, 10:37 AM
Yeah if rogue was a kiddy fiddler-she is like five yrs older tahn him.ewwwwwwwww
oh, ya, forgot, how young he was supose to be in it, but, I was just joking around anyway, ath e idea of that there powers are pretty much te opposite, where she takes on the powers of other and he just takes them away, and she could be normal around him with out completely cureing herself
@JeanGrey
08-03-2006, 06:33 PM
I tried to imagine an X4 to fix X3, and it involved the Cure not only being impermanent, but having it eventually cause additional mutation. I mean, we're talking about a serum taken from a mutant whose pwoers are to suppress other mutant's power, theoretically made into a 'cure' by using some sort of means of combining it with the 'cured' subject's DNA, that sounds like it can foul up pretty easilly.
Thus, The Cure of X3 becomes the Legacy Virus of X4. X4 'Legacy Virus' greatly accelerates existing powers and sometimes catalyzes secondary mutations. In some cases the host rejects these mutations, causing them to die (like Senator Kelly in X1), in Rogue's case her body manages to handle the changes, and she gains increased absorption powers, flight, and super strength.
If they need a 'scientific explanation' it can be claimed that the energy she borrows from others allows her to project a limited psychokinetic field allowing her to reinforce her body with tk energy allowing her to shield herself from physical harm, move heavy objects, and reverse the pull of gravity on her own body.
:up::up::up::up::up:
Really nice idea and it is in the spirit of the movies... It wil also let movie-only fans get it -how she becomes the southie super Rogue we all love!!!- and it will sound logical to them...
Something else: I read an Anna Paquin interview the other day and she claims that she didnt have much action as Rogue in all films. Obviously she -and all rogue fans like me- hoped to have a little more action in X3, so she really wants action, and i am sure she can give us the Rogue accent and attitude really well...:)
D'Ancanto
08-04-2006, 07:21 PM
i think that in the next x men movie rogue should get her super-strength/flyign abilities. As i know..these mutant genes tend to take affect during puberty when hormones are raging and all that stuff..When rogue took the cure, it would have meddling in her gene pool, why can't they just use this meddling as the production of her powers saying that the interruption of her mutant genes triggered her powers to evolve.
Rogue's Hand
08-08-2006, 05:26 PM
You know I was thinking about this the other day.
I was thinking maybe they can re-cast Rogue, but to be honest I've grown to like Anna as Rogue. They can send her to the gym to buff her body up a bit, and I think she'd do pretty good as powerhouse Rogue. Anna is only playing the part she's given, they can mold her. She has many different looks from what I've seen. Plus I think she's gained a love for Rogue's character. She's a good height, and she also projects that dark/gothic vibe Rogue gives off.
I also thought about Rogue's powers. How about they give her Rogue's new powers? Sunfires' powers that is. That way they won't have much catching up to do w/ the comics. Just an idea because I am Rogue's hugest fan and she SUCKED all 3 flicks.:o :down
You know I was thinking about this the other day.
I was thinking maybe they can re-cast Rogue, but to be honest I've grown to like Anna as Rogue. They can send her to the gym to buff her body up a bit, and I think she'd do pretty good as powerhouse Rogue. Anna is only playing the part she's given, they can mold her. She has many different looks from what I've seen. Plus I think she's gained a love for Rogue's character. She's a good height, and she also projects that dark/gothic vibe Rogue gives off.
I agree.:up:
Rogue's Hand
08-09-2006, 03:53 PM
I agree.:up:
They did a great job with Human Torch in F4, I'm sure Rogue's powers would be fun. Plus she can fight Pyro:)
@JeanGrey
08-19-2006, 05:20 PM
http://dhost.info/thepiano/pics/anna4.jpg
Don't know if any of you have seen this pic of Anna, but she surely has the Rogue look... Tell me crazy but i think that Anna's lipps are quite close to comic Rogue.
Just few months in a gym to get the all powerful physical look. Plus, have you seen how Hugh Jackman got rid of the Wolverine muscles he gained?
But to be honest neither Famke, nor Halle have an athlets body, we know that they are not so young, and still they looked great in X-Men uniforms. And Anna's 24-year old, her body with the X-Men uniform in posters is just fine, cannot find any wrong!
Rogue's Hand
08-19-2006, 08:10 PM
http://dhost.info/thepiano/pics/anna4.jpg
Don't know if any of you have seen this pic of Anna, but she surely has the Rogue look... Tell me crazy but i think that Anna's lipps are quite close to comic Rogue.
Just few months in a gym to get the all powerful physical look. Plus, have you seen how Hugh Jackman got rid of the Wolverine muscles he gained?
But to be honest neither Famke, nor Halle have an athlets body, we know that they are not so young, and still they looked great in X-Men uniforms. And Anna's 24-year old, her body with the X-Men uniform in posters is just fine, cannot find any wrong!
They can use her but she needs to be more of a b***h.
Rogue is too innocent in the movies. She needs an attitude, an edge.
Plus a buff body wouldn't be bad.:up:
Telekinetic
08-19-2006, 10:53 PM
I personally think they should scrap the Ms. Marvel Rogue idea for Rogue
in the movie. They were already acting iffy about it when asked during the filming of X3. They should give Rogue her new Sunfire powers because in the comic, she had just recovered from losing them completely also.
In the comic she also killed Sunfire by mistake. They pushed him on her
in order for her to be able to fight off Lady Deathstrike. I heard they signed Kelly Hu for future films, maybe that can come into action?:confused:
And honestly, her powers would resemble that of the Human Torch, only better!:up: :supes:
http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/2%20BackPack%20and%20Xmen%20uni/RogueGambit_image_L.jpg
Rogue currently wields Sunfire's (http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Sunfire_%28Shiro_Yoshida%29) powers:
Solar Flare: Rogue's mutant powers enable her to absorb solar and other radiation to generate the process of ionized matter (usually air) through a mentally-triggered unknown biochemical process so that it is converted to plasma, the superheated state of matter. Plasma is the state in which matter making up the sun exists; hence, Rogue refers to her projecting “solar fire”. Hence she can sheath her body in flame.
Flight: can use her powers to create super-heated air currents which push her forward through the air, enabling her to fly. Sometimes this super-heated air is visible as a trail of flame behind Rogue. The upper limit to the speed Rogue can achieve in flight is not yet known, although it is known to be greater than that of the Angel, who can reach 150 miles per hour.
Plasma Blasts: ability to project the flames she generates at powerful blasts of energy.
Plasma Emanation: Rogue can generate plasma temperatures which match those that can be generated by the Human Torch, reaching about 1,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit at maximum level. She can also use her power in a massive blast similar to Johnny Storm's "Nova Burst". However, Rogue has much more control over the area of effect, enough to where one person may feel like they have been sunbathing all day to total incineration of another target.
Heat Signature Sense: ability to sense beings by the heat signature that they give off.
Plasma Shield: ability to manipulate the plasma around her to form an aura that can melt incoming bullets are stave off other attacks. Solar Shielding Psi-field: She is protected from the radiation she emits by a short-range psionic force field which automatically comes into being whenever air friction, and also prevents excessive amounts of light from the plasma from reaching her eyes so as to blind or damage them. Rogue's body emits a protective field whenever she uses her powers. However, it is speculated that she can generate power in excess of her natural protection.
It would be so hot to see her do that on screen!:eek:
why does it look like she has 4boobs?
Mdizzle
08-24-2006, 02:11 PM
Crazy ideas guys. I like it! As for the idea with Gambit, and even Bobby...Bobby perhaps would have moved on with Kitty, but still looks back at Rogue with some regret and longing...I dunno, I like the idea of some kind of love triangle just to complicate things some. Gambit and Bobby competing for Rogue, but Kitty's all "why do you even care anymore? You have me!". Ehehe, good times.
Rogue was reasonably portrayed in the films, considering she hadn't been introduce to Ms. Marvel's powers. What else is a girl in her position to do? Maybe in X4 have that storyline pumped up, and then present Rogue as she would be, with "more attitude" to quote someone above, upon gaining these incredible powers...she'll no longer feel so helpless or watever, and be able to take on a more active, spunkier role in the XMen...or even perhaps turn to the dark side, so to speak.
Angamb
08-27-2006, 06:40 PM
Rogue should be the main character of the next trilogy, with Gambit. but I feel Fox won't be abble to do her justice, in terms of powers, etc.
MaleRogue
09-01-2006, 02:38 PM
As Long Rogue stays with Bobby I am cool :D
Mdizzle
09-01-2006, 03:07 PM
Gambit...Kitty...love triangles forever haha.
I agree rogue and bobby are boring and should never have happened.
Cougar1824
09-10-2006, 08:35 PM
I have my own version of how Rogue can get some power and some 'tude.
Start out with her having left the mansion because we felt out of place and wanted to go back home. Have her be gone for three months. Meanwhile at the mansion have the X-men discover that the cure isnt permanent. Logan and Bobby worried about Rogue call her parents house to tell her the news and that they are coming to pick her up.
But Rogue's parents tell them that the "X-men" came to get her months ago.:wow:
Logan and the X-men are ready to jump in the jet and track her down when Storm gets a call from a scientist who wants there help to stop a group of mutants that broke into his lab and stole his research. Since Logan has no way of finding Rogue he goes with the rest of the team.
Turns out this lab is a huge compound that is partly destroyed. While they are looking for clues they are able to recover a part of security tape and it turns out Rogue and three other mutants are the one who destroyed everything.
Since no one knows whats going on they head back to the mansion to do reseach. Storm is taking them all to her office whenLogan smells something. Their Gambit sit all laidback in Storms chair. Logan attacks and gets a surprise from the Ragin Cajan.
Gambit is there to tell Stormy about a series of robbies by mutants and he knows there next target. Believing that Rogue is apart of this, the X-men decide to stake out the place.
They dont have a long wait before Rogue, Quicksilver, Psylocke, and Avalanche show up. But this is not the Rogue they all know and love this Rogue is a bad*** She has powers she is able to call on the powers of mutants that she has absorbed in the past. Big fight scene and X-men barely win. Rogue is knocked out by Colossus and Quicksilver's leg get broken. Psylocke and Avalanche escape and they X-men take the other to back to the mansion to get some answers.
Dr.McCoy looks over the two mutants and discovers that they are both covered in multiple wounds going back as far as a few months. Kitty and Bobby are helping the Doc when Rogue wakes up grabs Kitty steals her powers and phases through the floor with Quicksilver. After searching the mansion for the two mutants everyone one show up empty handed in the War room. Logan and Storm are fighting when Gambit strolls in with Rodue in his arms "Looking for this " :cwink:
After putting Rogue back in the med bay, the Team (mostly Logan) wonder if this is going to end up the same way as Jean.
Storm,"I just wish we knew what was going on in her head. Why is she attacking us?
"I believe I could be of some help"
Everyone turns to see the Professor :yay:
After hugs and tears they get back to business to see whats up with Rogue.
Professor discovers that Rogue and other mutants were kidnapped by a shady government group that knew the cure wasnt permanent and that after is has worn off it makes the mutant even stronger than before.
We see that Rogue and the other mutants were used as lab rats and tested on and tortured.
Professor takes a break because he is still weak but he notices that Rogue has her set of dog tags and she is wearing a strange collor.
I have more if anyone likes it, if you dont like it please dont tell me so because i dont do rejection well:csad:
AeonFlux
09-12-2006, 02:22 AM
All of you who say Anna is great/perfect/good as Rogue are blind! She is NOTHING like Rogue in the way she acts(and YES she is half-way to blame! She isn't a great actress just because she got an oscar like 12 years ago or something doesn't make her a great actress! She can't do a southern accent, we all witnessed that! And Rogue is supposed to have the memories of those she touches in her and whenever she touches that being she starts talking and acting like them, this is waaaaay too hard for Anna's abilities. She could never pull it off, maybe that's why they ignored that part of Rogue's powers!) and definitly NOT in looks and body shape! Anna is dull looking! Not saying this cause I don't like her or to piss you "fans" off but she really is and looks like a boy half the time. Rogue is known as a southern belle and has guys constantly attracted to her. She is supposed to be a knock out. Something Anna cannot be even with make-up! Anna's Rogue will NEVER be anything like comic/cartoon/video game Rogue ever. Cause she simply can't do it. She was horribly mis-cast and the reason why I dislike Anna is because she is an idiot for signing onto a role she is 100% wrong for! And if you think Anna is great as/for Rogue then you have no idea who Rogue is. They really need to re-cast Rogue and save her from this butchering!
I disagree with you anna is a great actress and is always getting critical acclaim for her roles.As for her as the cool rogue she could have pulled it off hse has done similar roles in other movies and can do sexy well.
Angamb
09-16-2006, 02:45 PM
Posted in the Rogue thread (X:TLS board).
What do you think of this?
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8339/armondo142006dt2ik5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I think she looks lovely... I'd love to see something like this for her in X4, with a sexier touch.
Not perfect, but just an idea, a try:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4345/piyal41nplb4tm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Angamb
09-20-2006, 03:30 PM
what do you think of that look?
Angamb
09-20-2006, 03:48 PM
How could be Rogue's hair:
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7449/picarabritfx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2708/britney20spears2011np9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Yeah, is Britney, but only imagine Anna like her...
Spider-Fan83
09-20-2006, 06:59 PM
edit
Angamb
09-21-2006, 12:41 PM
What about this?
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9754/beyonce20unit20special20042yy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
batboy99
09-22-2006, 05:48 PM
i like that pic but im so sick of that head!
nolan's roll'n
09-22-2006, 08:56 PM
I agree rogue and bobby are boring and should never have happened.
Agreed. :up:
MaleRogue
09-23-2006, 05:22 AM
I agree rogue and bobby are boring and should never have happened.
Dont agree
I really like them together...
I like them as a couple..
and I hope they will stay together in future X-Men movies
batboy99
10-01-2006, 02:39 PM
no rogue must be with gambit not bobby
Mistopurr83
08-19-2007, 05:28 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6098/15288roguelnew2peq12mi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Well, the next Rogue not only needs to change her hair, personality, attitude and uselessness. She also needs to change her uniform. That skin tight unitard looks way too hard to put on and move in. God nobody else's uniform looks that tight!:o Not even Jean's X1 uniform looked that tight. IMO the movie Rogue has to wear a loose two peice uniform if she's gonna do a lot of fighting and acrobatics. I can't believe many of you blindly fail to see that Rogue would not have been able to fight in that leather unitard. Heck the first promos of her in that uniform (the only one that looked too tight to put on and move in) should've been a hint that she was not gonna fight in it.
PS I also still say the look of her uniform just makes her look out of place from everyone else.
Angamb
08-19-2007, 07:54 PM
Oh, how did you find this thread? i even didn't remember it, hehe.
Thanks for doing it, so we have a Rogue thread since now to discuss about her. (I thought about creating a new one, haha).
Canemacar
08-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Just keep the angst-queen away from Gambit. no need to drag him down.
Rogue's Hand
08-20-2007, 12:12 AM
Can Can you are horrible :(
Canemacar
08-20-2007, 12:31 AM
Can Can you are horrible :(
I kid because i care.:oldrazz:
Rogue's Hand
08-20-2007, 12:41 AM
I kid because i care.:oldrazz:
I know you do! :wow::woot:
ToriL90
08-20-2007, 09:17 AM
Well, the next Rogue not only needs to change her hair, personality, attitude and uselessness. She also needs to change her uniform. That skin tight unitard looks way too hard to put on and move in. God nobody else's uniform looks that tight!:o Not even Jean's X1 uniform looked that tight. IMO the movie Rogue has to wear a loose two peice uniform if she's gonna do a lot of fighting and acrobatics. I can't believe many of you blindly fail to see that Rogue would not have been able to fight in that leather unitard. Heck the first promos of her in that uniform (the only one that looked too tight to put on and move in) should've been a hint that she was not gonna fight in it.
PS I also still say the look of her uniform just makes her look out of place from everyone else.
I agree that she needs a new uniform (among other things). Actually, even with what little she did in that uniform in X3, it kept ripping on her, to the point where they would actually tape it back together! :wow:
This is the look I want in X4:
http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/23706/2004524113554402144_fs.jpg
A little bit smaller streak than X3 is a small touch on this pic. Another small touch is to lose the high heels. What kind of superhero kicks butt in 4 inch heels? And don't say Charlie's Angels, 'cause they were just ridiculous. :oldrazz:
The larger touches are that her outfit is sleeveless, and she wears shorts instead of long pants. That way, she can better use her powers in hand-to-hand combat. In the regular X-Men uniform, she shows almost no skin. Why do that when your skin is your weapon? If Mystique can go nude in order to use her powers (shapeshifting), then the least Rogue can do is go sleeveless. :oldrazz: The gloves provide the appropriate protection for interaction with other X-Men, who will be fully covered in their own uniforms anyway, so she poses no threat to her own teammates.
Rogue's Hand
08-20-2007, 11:53 PM
I think she should wear her signature mini jacket from the Jim Lee costume :)
Canemacar
08-20-2007, 11:54 PM
I want to see her wear this:
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1446/117393-rogue_400.jpg
HOT!
Rogue's Hand
08-21-2007, 12:10 AM
I want to see her wear this:
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1446/117393-rogue_400.jpg
HOT!
For some reason I don't think Anna can look that sexy :csad:
ToriL90
08-21-2007, 07:12 AM
I want to see her wear this:
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1446/117393-rogue_400.jpg
HOT!
NOT that hair. :oldrazz: I wouldn't like that as an X-Men uniform, either. I do, however, have in mind her wearing a sweater like that in one scene (I know it's not up to me to pick out apparel for X4, but I like picturing it). I'd like her to layer a sweater like that - only darker - over a yellow cami, as an ode to her classic green-and-yellow outfit.
flavio_lebeau
08-21-2007, 08:00 AM
I think she should wear her signature mini jacket from the Jim Lee costume :)
That would actually be great. If not in her uniform, which I don't think should change at all, she REALLY could have a scene wearing a mini jacket upon her clothes. That would rock as a nod to us...
batboy99
08-21-2007, 04:26 PM
I hope they do something with her costume(or all the x-men), black is boring now, add a little more colour other than the piping and give rogue her jacket!
batboy99
08-21-2007, 04:28 PM
All of you who say Anna is great/perfect/good as Rogue are blind! She is NOTHING like Rogue in the way she acts(and YES she is half-way to blame! She isn't a great actress just because she got an oscar like 12 years ago or something doesn't make her a great actress! She can't do a southern accent, we all witnessed that! And Rogue is supposed to have the memories of those she touches in her and whenever she touches that being she starts talking and acting like them, this is waaaaay too hard for Anna's abilities. She could never pull it off, maybe that's why they ignored that part of Rogue's powers!) and definitly NOT in looks and body shape! Anna is dull looking! Not saying this cause I don't like her or to piss you "fans" off but she really is and looks like a boy half the time. Rogue is known as a southern belle and has guys constantly attracted to her. She is supposed to be a knock out. Something Anna cannot be even with make-up! Anna's Rogue will NEVER be anything like comic/cartoon/video game Rogue ever. Cause she simply can't do it. She was horribly mis-cast and the reason why I dislike Anna is because she is an idiot for signing onto a role she is 100% wrong for! And if you think Anna is great as/for Rogue then you have no idea who Rogue is. They really need to re-cast Rogue and save her from this butchering!i knida agree, i dont feel she was the right choice for rogue, but you gotta deal with it, but shes actually a good actress
ToriL90
08-21-2007, 04:52 PM
I hope they do something with her costume(or all the x-men), black is boring now, add a little more colour other than the piping and give rogue her jacket!Which jacket is this? The classic brown leather cropped jacket that went over her green and yellow suit? I definitely want a scene where she's wearing that as part of a civilian outfit.
Angamb
08-21-2007, 04:58 PM
I think we all know Anna Paquin isn't exactly like the Rogue everyone know, from the comic, 90's series, etc. But she could be a great Rogue if they gave her better material, and look. The problem isn't Anna, the problem is the director, writers Fox & company. So don't discuss more about it. Just post ideas for X4, is more fun, I think.
batboy99
08-21-2007, 07:13 PM
Which jacket is this? The classic brown leather cropped jacket that went over her green and yellow suit? I definitely want a scene where she's wearing that as part of a civilian outfit.
yup that one, but i want her to wear it all the time
@Angamb- Even with the right material, she still isnt rogue, shes the movie version of x-mens rogue, so yes its her problem but at the same time, no it isnt her problem.
04nbod
08-22-2007, 08:36 AM
i don't want them to bring in gambit as a love interest for a start. It only screws up both characters. I want rogue and bobby to sort things out after the stuff in X3. I want the rogue/ kitty rivalry that was in evo and ultimate. I want rogue to have a big kickass moment with her powers. Sort of like when sage jumpstarted them in the comics or when she lost control in evo. I want her to start the movie (if there is one) on a road trip maybe, with bobby like she did in the comics after the whole gambit fiasco. Perhaps having sinister hunting down mutants that were cured to harness their powers only to realise he's working for apocolypse and they become horsemen
ToriL90
08-22-2007, 09:10 AM
i don't want them to bring in gambit as a love interest for a start. It only screws up both characters. I want rogue and bobby to sort things out after the stuff in X3. I want the rogue/ kitty rivalry that was in evo and ultimate. I want rogue to have a big kickass moment with her powers. Sort of like when sage jumpstarted them in the comics or when she lost control in evo. I want her to start the movie (if there is one) on a road trip maybe, with bobby like she did in the comics after the whole gambit fiasco. Perhaps having sinister hunting down mutants that were cured to harness their powers only to realise he's working for apocolypse and they become horsemenI really don't want Rogue and Bobby to work things out. i think their relationship was doomed the moment he pulled away from her kiss in X2. Now that Kitty's in the mix and Rogue took the cure, i think it's time for them to break up.
In X4, Rogue and Gambit should be like a team - not a couple, though they do flirt. They just stick together on missions, hang out with each other, etc. They should be a couple in X5, though.
Angamb
08-22-2007, 09:17 AM
I'm agreed. X4 should be the introduction of Gambit, with some flirting, but no more, maybe a nice end, that shows the possibility of something more in the next sequel. I'd love something like this but in a final battle, or no, maybe in the manssion.
flavio_lebeau
08-22-2007, 11:20 AM
There can't be an X5, guys. X4 is already a stretch, X5 is impossible. At least with this same cast. We should be extremely happy if they release an X4, but waiting for an X5 is just...utopy.
Angamb
08-22-2007, 11:24 AM
The peace in the world is an utopy. A fith sequel of a movie franchise is a possibility, hehe. :yay:
flavio_lebeau
08-22-2007, 11:29 AM
The peace in the world is an utopy. A fith sequel of a movie franchise is a possibility, hehe. :yay:
Come on Angamb. Halle Berry would be in her fifties. I know she's a striking beauty, and will probably age very very well, but will she be able to handle all the action Storm needs? Anna will be thirty something, Ashmore near his forties, etc...Iceman a 40 years old guy? Rogue being 30 something? I don't like this idea...
IF we get an X4, I absolutely want a reboot after it.
ToriL90
08-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Come on Angamb. Halle Berry would be in her fifties. I know she's a striking beauty, and will probably age very very well, but will she be able to handle all the action Storm needs? Anna will be thirty something, Ashmore near his forties, etc...Iceman a 40 years old guy? Rogue being 30 something? I don't like this idea...
IF we get an X4, I absolutely want a reboot after it.Storm can become something closer to an Xavier role. Even with action scenes, her powers are mostly special effects. No reason she'd need to do a hand-to-hand scene in X5, although it's not out of the question. Did anybody see Die Hard 4? Bruce Willis is in his 50's, right? ;)
As for Ashmore, he can play the role of someone 10 years younger. Paquin... well... people had a problem with teenage Rogue anyway, didn't they? :oldrazz: Everybody gets older. Even mutants. Nothing wrong with following them as they age.
flavio_lebeau
08-22-2007, 11:56 AM
Storm can become something closer to an Xavier role. Even with action scenes, her powers are mostly special effects. No reason she'd need to do a hand-to-hand scene in X5, although it's not out of the question. Did anybody see Die Hard 4? Bruce Willis is in his 50's, right? ;)
As for Ashmore, he can play the role of someone 10 years younger. Paquin... well... people had a problem with teenage Rogue anyway, didn't they? :oldrazz: Everybody gets older. Even mutants. Nothing wrong with following them as they age.
It breaks the myth :o :(
:p
Angamb
08-26-2007, 05:46 AM
None knows if they would shot X4 and X5 back to back, hehe...
batboy99
08-26-2007, 11:33 AM
i wouldnt want them too, and as flavio said earlier, its probably near impossible for an X5, X4 is already pushing it
TKing
08-26-2007, 12:55 PM
In a future installment, I'd love to see Rogue wearing a design similar to this (if they keep to the "realism" idea, that is).
http://icyheart.deviantart.com/art/Rogue-32587682?q=Rogue&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5
flavio_lebeau
08-26-2007, 01:37 PM
When I first saw that costume, some months ago, I thought it was awesome. But then I realized that it leaves her chest entirely unprotected (assuming those uniforms are bullet proof). While it's visually entertaining, it's not pratical at all...
Canemacar
08-26-2007, 01:47 PM
When I first saw that costume, some months ago, I thought it was awesome. But then I realized that it leaves her chest entirely unprotected (assuming those uniforms are bullet proof). While it's visually entertaining, it's not pratical at all...
You do realize that skin-tight leather isn't at all practical to begin with, right?
flavio_lebeau
08-26-2007, 01:47 PM
You do realize that skin-tight leather isn't at all practical to begin with, right?
They work on the movies.
batboy99
08-26-2007, 01:56 PM
i just hate how they tried to make it so realistic, its a friggen comic book, people with claws coming from their hand and people who can contol the weather, it isnt very realistic to begin with. Plus they could still added colour to their suits
flavio_lebeau
08-26-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm fine with the suits. All of them.
batboy99
08-26-2007, 02:16 PM
the black gets boring after awhile, it isnt like i dont like them, but they're just so plain
flavio_lebeau
08-26-2007, 02:25 PM
I think the world just likes to complain. By the time the first X-Men movie was released, the world wasn't ready for colorful uniforms. The movie would be slashed if they were colorful. We got the black ones, which worked quite well. Now, because we got the black ones, and because most superhero films decided to follow the realist point-of-view, people got tired, and everyone wants color on the uniforms, colorful worlds, high fantasy. It's how the world works, no one is ever entirely happy, with anything.
batboy99
08-26-2007, 02:50 PM
i dont want it TOO colourful like Batman and robin or something but a LITLLE bit more colour wouldnt hurt
TKing
08-26-2007, 04:05 PM
A reboot will correct all that. Colours galore from the start. :up:
ToriL90
08-26-2007, 04:30 PM
No colorful outfits. They'd look stupid. The leather is fine. Colorful piping is all we need. Put Wolverine in yellow spandex and a mask, and it'll be ridiculous. Color is fine in a comic, but not on real people. On real people, they look like they belong in Disneyland.
If you want color, and odes to the comics, do it with their civilian outfits. I've got Rogue in her classic bomber jacket in one scene, and layering yellow and green in another as an ode to her classic costume. Gambit wears his overcoat every time he's in civilian attire (he wears a black leather overcoat like Cyclops wore in X2 when he's in uniform).
Rogue's Hand
08-27-2007, 02:48 AM
Rogue needs to be in the Brotherhood for the next movie, please :(
TKing
08-27-2007, 05:04 AM
Do you mean in a reboot? She's powerless in this series. :o
Rogue's Hand
08-27-2007, 05:30 AM
Do you mean in a reboot? She's powerless in this series. :o
Exactly, which is why I want Mystique to be the scorned woman she is. Scoop up Rogue and wreck havoc in retaliation to the cure. I know many feel as if it's a bit off course, but Rogue being bad = her power upgrade. It will take Rogue hurting another mutant or going through some kind of life changing experience for her to come back to the X-men. She should definitely join Pyro, Juggz, along w/ Mystique and run into the X-men during battle.
TKing
08-27-2007, 08:15 AM
But at the end of X3, we saw she was happy. Why would she rush off to join Mystique? :o
Rogue's Hand
08-27-2007, 11:46 PM
But at the end of X3, we saw she was happy. Why would she rush off to join Mystique? :o
Mystique is a shapeshifter. Maybe she was her mom all along :cwink:
ToriL90
08-28-2007, 08:12 AM
But at the end of X3, we saw she was happy. Why would she rush off to join Mystique? :o
Well, she will be angry when the cure wears off. An opportunistic Mystique might use that to lure her into joining up with her.
Not the storyline I want, but a possibility. ;)
TKing
08-28-2007, 03:25 PM
Mystique is a shapeshifter. Maybe she was her mom all along :cwink:
And she was so eager to have her daughter killed in X1? :o
Rogue's Hand
08-29-2007, 01:01 PM
And she was so eager to have her daughter killed in X1? :o
How many times has Mystique tried to kill Rogue? Thought so.
How about checking the recent issue X-Men # 200 where she
wishes to have the honor of shooting Rogue herself :whatever:
ToriL90
08-29-2007, 01:41 PM
It doesn't matter, really. Suddenly revealing in X4 that Mystique is Rogue's mother when we've known somebody else to be her mother for the last 7 years, when she was shown to be a completely normal 17-year old until her mutations manifested... to suddenly say, "Oh, wait - she was taken in by a mutant spy as a baby!"? It would be completely absurd. People need to just let go of that relationship as far as the movies go.
Rogue's Hand
08-29-2007, 01:57 PM
It doesn't matter, really. Suddenly revealing in X4 that Mystique is Rogue's mother when we've known somebody else to be her mother for the last 7 years, when she was shown to be a completely normal 17-year old until her mutations manifested... to suddenly say, "Oh, wait - she was taken in by a mutant spy as a baby!"? It would be completely absurd. People need to just let go of that relationship as far as the movies go.
Who is this "somebody" exactly. All we saw was a quick glimpse of Rogue's parent's after she touched that boy. Did you know her mother's name? Why couldn't it have been Mystique? Mystique's known to be shrouded in mystery.
And stop acting like the movie needs to follow a certain plot because as we can all see Ratner didn't care what you or anyone else on this forum thought.
Psylocke was a villain, and Calisto was Dominican, so get out of here with that. If they make Mystique manipulate Rogue it will atleast be an attempt to be true to the comics.
ToriL90
08-29-2007, 02:12 PM
Who is this "somebody" exactly. All we saw was a quick glimpse of Rogue's parent's after she touched that boy. Did you know her mother's name? Why couldn't it have been Mystique? Mystique's known to be shrouded in mystery.We saw enough of Rogue's mother and Rogue's life with her that it would be really weird to suddenly turn it into Rogue living with a shapeshifting spy.
And stop acting like the movie needs to follow a certain plot because as we can all see Ratner didn't care what you or anyone else on this forum thought.What certain plot? That major aspects of a major character aren't radically shifted in ways that give me a consistency migraine? :oldrazz:
Psylocke was a villain, and Calisto was Dominican, so get out of here with that. If they make Mystique manipulate Rogue it will atleast be an attempt to be true to the comics.I don't have a big problem with Mystique manipulating Rogue. I just have a problem with going back and making Mystique Rogue's mother when Rogue's pre-mutant life has already been clearly determined.
Rogue's Hand
08-29-2007, 02:26 PM
We saw enough of Rogue's mother and Rogue's life with her that it would be really weird to suddenly turn it into Rogue living with a shapeshifting spy.
What certain plot? That major aspects of a major character aren't radically shifted in ways that give me a consistency migraine? :oldrazz:
I don't have a big problem with Mystique manipulating Rogue. I just have a problem with going back and making Mystique Rogue's mother when Rogue's pre-mutant life has already been clearly determined.
Well they weren't actually consistent w/ the movies either. And if Mystique wasn't Rogue's mom, how come she just can't see her huddled in a corner sad that her powers are back and recruit her in the Brotherhood? She can take her in now and Rogue can be a villain. Fight alongside Pyro, Blob, or even Avalanche. I'm sure if Rogue joins Mystique, she'll have that edge she's missing.
ToriL90
08-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Well they weren't actually consistent w/ the movies either. And if Mystique wasn't Rogue's mom, how come she just can't see her huddled in a corner sad that her powers are back and recruit her in the Brotherhood? She can take her in now and Rogue can be a villain. Fight alongside Pyro, Blob, or even Avalanche. I'm sure if Rogue joins Mystique, she'll have that edge she's missing.
Sorry, but I can't really follow your question. :huh: :o What are you asking? say it slowly, 'cause I ain't too bright. :oldrazz:
Oh, and about consistency: That's why I used the term "consistency migraine", to delineate from the more common consistency headaches we all experience in the Marvel world. :cwink:
Rogue's Hand
08-29-2007, 03:05 PM
Sorry, but I can't really follow your question. :huh: :o What are you asking? say it slowly, 'cause I ain't too bright. :oldrazz:
Oh, and about consistency: That's why I used the term "consistency migraine", to delineate from the more common consistency headaches we all experience in the Marvel world. :cwink:
It's messed up, so why fix it now :huh: LOL
Jean was the Scarlett Witch in X3, why can't Mystique be Rogue's momma?
TKing
08-29-2007, 05:02 PM
How many times has Mystique tried to kill Rogue? Thought so.
How about checking the recent issue X-Men # 200 where she
wishes to have the honor of shooting Rogue herself :whatever:
These aren't the comics. Liberties are taken. Besides the identity of Rogue's mother isn't the problem with her character. :o
Rogue's Hand
08-30-2007, 11:29 AM
These aren't the comics. Liberties are taken. Besides the identity of Rogue's mother isn't the problem with her character. :o
You mean it isn't the ONLY problem with her character.:whatever::cwink:
Angamb
08-30-2007, 11:28 PM
apart from mystique/Rogue interaction, what other ideas you have for Rogue in X4, would be nice to see a little summary of her possible evolution in X4. I'll post mine soon.
Angamb
09-03-2007, 11:31 AM
Just to compare, which look of these two would you preffer for her in X4?
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2824/stillsx2240wsuu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8816/xmen2jean800rogue3cutgt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the X2 ponytail.... or a short hair one?
flavio_lebeau
09-03-2007, 11:34 AM
Left, left, left and left.
Angamb
09-03-2007, 12:08 PM
Not agreed :woot:
ToriL90
09-03-2007, 02:01 PM
Just to compare, which look of these two would you preffer for her in X4?
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2824/stillsx2240wsuu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8816/xmen2jean800rogue3cutgt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the X2 ponytail.... or a short hair one?
Neither.
http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/23706/2004524113554402144_fs.jpg
:oldrazz:
Between your two, however, I say the one on the left. I just don't like Anna with short hair (although that do looks better on her than on Famke, lol).
Angamb
09-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Anna had the look of your pic in X3 and X2, long and straight hair...
ToriL90
09-03-2007, 02:48 PM
Anna had the look of your pic in X3 and X2, long and straight hair...
And that's how she looked best. :cwink: She can have different 'dos in different scenes; but the long hair is her best look IMO.
Angamb
09-03-2007, 03:33 PM
For some reason, so many fans haven't liked movie Rogue, so that will be for a few reasons, between them, the look, hehe.
Anyway, I'm working on a new manip, and is looking really good, better than my previous one, I hope all like it.
Edit: it will be my best Rogue manip ever, believe me.
Mistopurr83
09-03-2007, 08:38 PM
Just to compare, which look of these two would you preffer for her in X4?
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2824/stillsx2240wsuu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/8816/xmen2jean800rogue3cutgt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the X2 ponytail.... or a short hair one?
I'm still going with the pic on the right b/c she looks like a woman rather than a teenage girl on the left pic. Also, IMO if Rogue is gonna have straight hair, it should be short. If she's in X4 she needs to change her hair somehow. I hated how she was the only female that didn't go through any hairstyle changes in all 3 films.:o
Mistopurr83
09-03-2007, 08:40 PM
For some reason, so many fans haven't like Rogue version, so that would be for a few reasons, between them, the look, hehe.
Anyway, I'm working on a new manip, and is looking really good, better than my previous one, I hope all like it.
Edit: it will be my best Rogue manip ever, believe me.
I look forward to seeing this manip.
Franklin Richards
09-03-2007, 08:44 PM
I want Rogue/Ms.Marvel.
:thing: :doom: :thing:
Angamb
09-07-2007, 03:16 PM
which mutants from the comic can fly? I mean, which one they could use, apart of Ms. Marvel?
Rogue's Hand
09-07-2007, 03:45 PM
She could've taken her super strength from Juggz
Angamb
09-07-2007, 04:01 PM
true, hehe. And the flight?........................................... .....
:huh: .............
Storm? :huh:
hahahaha.
It's funny, Rogue could have been the Rogue of the comics in X3, with those two mutants in the film.
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 04:20 PM
which mutants from the comic can fly? I mean, which one they could use, apart of Ms. Marvel?
Comic Rogue recently took Sunfire's power. Sunfire can use solar power to fly.
In X4, I'd like her to take Magneto's power. That'll give fans of her Ms. Marvel days a temporary look at flying Rogue in the movies. ;)
Angamb
09-07-2007, 04:24 PM
but.... I mean, why Magneto can fly? :huh:
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 04:31 PM
but.... I mean, why Magneto can fly? :huh:
Magneto wears a metal suit, which he then levitates to make himself fly. If Rogue puts a little metal on after touching him - heck, she could pull some metal out of the environment and mold it around her waist - she could also fly.
Angamb
09-07-2007, 04:52 PM
yes, that's what I was thinking, but is a bit weird, and complicated. The best way is Rogue touching Storm, she is the most closest mutant with flying habilities.
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 05:04 PM
yes, that's what I was thinking, but is a bit weird, and complicated. The best way is Rogue touching Storm, she is the most closest mutant with flying habilities.I don't think it would be wierd. I mean, Magneto is an excellent character and there's no way I'd want him to be out of the series, but should a 68-year old be in the final battle against Sentinels? Maybe from a distance, but I'd much rather see him take a more Xavier-like role in that he isn't very involved in the big battles.
On the other hand, I'd LOVE to see Rogue in the final battle. Unfortunately, her powers are pretty much useless against the Sentinels.
So, we have a guy with great powers for the final battle, who we don't really want to see in it; and we have a gal with terrible powers for the final battle, who we desperately want to see in it. She's got the power to take his power, so we can have everything we want. :cwink:
coogan1
09-07-2007, 05:09 PM
i hope she gets her power back, an if she does she better be able 2 fly an start kickin asshttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 05:17 PM
i hope she gets her power back, an if she does she better be able 2 fly an start kickin asshttp://forums.superherohype.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Ms. Marvel's old news. Bring in Sunfire-like powers in X5. KILL PYRO!!!!!! :sym:
Angamb
09-07-2007, 05:42 PM
For Rogue is more easy to fly with Storm powers than with Erik. That's what I was meaning... controlling metal don't make her can fly suddenly, you know? hehe
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 07:01 PM
For Rogue is more easy to fly with Storm powers than with Erik. That's what I was meaning... controlling metal don't make her can fly suddenly, you know? hehe
Yeah, I get your point. I just don't think she should get Ms. Marvel powers on a permanent level; however, I think most fans of that Rogue era would love to see her flying, even if it's done Erik's way (levitating oneself by wearing metal). ;)
Angamb
09-07-2007, 07:11 PM
And what about having Magneto and Storm powers at the same time?....
eh? hahaha
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 07:16 PM
And what about having Magneto and Storm powers at the same time?....
eh? hahahaLol sounds fun. I'd like to be Rogue for a day. ;)
Angamb
09-07-2007, 07:17 PM
hahha. Me too, but in another city, a big one.
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 07:20 PM
hahha. Me too, but in another city, a big one.
Wouldn't it be fun to, just for one day, have Rogue's power and be put in a place like Xavier's school? Touch Storm and make the weather nice, touch Bobby and build an ice castle, touch Logan and heal from anything, touch Kitty and spy on people through the walls. :woot:
Angamb
09-07-2007, 07:26 PM
I'd prefer Sue Storm power, hahahhahaa,.
batboy99
09-07-2007, 08:03 PM
I'm still going with the pic on the right b/c she looks like a woman rather than a teenage girl on the left pic. Also, IMO if Rogue is gonna have straight hair, it should be short. If she's in X4 she needs to change her hair somehow. I hated how she was the only female that didn't go through any hairstyle changes in all 3 films.:othat hait looks horrible for rogue, it looks good on the manip but i wouldnt want that for the movies, id want her hair down and curly, like how rogue should have it
Mistopurr83
09-07-2007, 08:31 PM
that hait looks horrible for rogue, it looks good on the manip but i wouldnt want that for the movies, id want her hair down and curly, like how rogue should have it
I agree that if it's gonna be long it should be curly or wavy, not all straight and flat. However, I still prefer the short hair for the sake of looking more grown up and b/c Anna's face doesn't go with curly hair.
Once agian people are debating how Rogue should gain additional powers. I still think that can happen if she became a horseman for Apocolypse. His machine could manifest it.
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 09:04 PM
that hait looks horrible for rogue, it looks good on the manip but i wouldnt want that for the movies, id want her hair down and curly, like how rogue should have it
I'd like her to have long hair, done a few different ways depending on the scene. In uniform, though, she should have long, straight hair. It doesn't seem like she's the kind to pull out the curling iron before saving the world. :oldrazz:
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 09:06 PM
I agree that if it's gonna be long it should be curly or wavy, not all straight and flat. However, I still prefer the short hair for the sake of looking more grown up and b/c Anna's face doesn't go with curly hair.
Once agian people are debating how Rogue should gain additional powers. I still think that can happen if she became a horseman for Apocolypse. His machine could manifest it.I think she should have her own powers in X4, but gain Pyro's power in X5 as a take on the Sunfire storyline. I've already figured out how she would take his powers, and it would actually be quite moving and a great moment for Pyrogue fans (don't worry, though, they don't kiss or anything). :D
Mr. Socko
09-07-2007, 11:01 PM
Magneto wears a metal suit, which he then levitates to make himself fly. If Rogue puts a little metal on after touching him - heck, she could pull some metal out of the environment and mold it around her waist - she could also fly.
I'm sure the metal suit idea would work as well. But the general census is that Magneto can repel against the magnetic fields of earth allowing free effect of gravitational force, thus allowing levitation.
As for the topic at hand, It shouldn't be too hard to replace Anna Paquin and the mediocrity she instilled upon the role in both psychical look-wise and acting ability. I highly doubt they would ever pick an actress more unfit for the role than how she was.
ToriL90
09-07-2007, 11:03 PM
I'm sure the metal suit idea would work as well. But the general census is that Magneto can repel against the magnetic fields of earth allowing free effect of gravitational force, thus allowing levitation. Ooh, I didn't know that. That's even better. :)
As for the topic at hand, It shouldn't be too hard to replace Anna Paquin and the mediocrity she instilled upon the role in both psychical look-wise and acting ability. I highly doubt they would ever pick an actress for unfit for the role again than she was.
:wow: How DARE you?!?!?!?!?!
:oldrazz:
Mr. Socko
09-07-2007, 11:05 PM
Sorry, no offense to anyway who's a fan. I'll word better next time.
ToriL90
09-08-2007, 08:23 AM
Sorry, no offense to anyway who's a fan. I'll word better next time.lol No need - I was just kidding. I love Anna as Rogue, but I understand people who don't.
TBH, I don't think Anna could be replaced at this point, even if I wanted her to be. She's had too big a role in the movies. Most of the main cast couldn't be replaced at this point. Kitty, Colossus, or Warren? They could if you wanted (which I don't); but not Rogue.
batboy99
09-08-2007, 09:49 AM
Because Rogue isnt a little wimp with a big ass space in her teeth?
Lol, i like her as rogue also, but not the rogue im used to, i just say they made a new rogue for the movies
ToriL90
09-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Because Rogue isnt a little wimp with a big ass space in her teeth?
Lol, i like her as rogue also, but not the rogue im used to, i just say they made a new rogue for the moviesI kinda think they had to. When I picture comic Rogue's personality on a real person, I think of Rosie O'Donnell :wow:
Angamb
09-08-2007, 10:51 AM
What I want is a more mature Rogue with Anna Paquin, a better role, well written, and a bit more like the comic. They can developt it, other thing is if they really want to or not.
Mistopurr83
09-12-2007, 07:37 PM
I think she should have her own powers in X4, but gain Pyro's power in X5 as a take on the Sunfire storyline. I've already figured out how she would take his powers, and it would actually be quite moving and a great moment for Pyrogue fans (don't worry, though, they don't kiss or anything). :D
No, that should've already happened in X2. It's either additonal powers somehow or she's out.
Mistopurr83
09-12-2007, 07:40 PM
lol No need - I was just kidding. I love Anna as Rogue, but I understand people who don't.
TBH, I don't think Anna could be replaced at this point, even if I wanted her to be. She's had too big a role in the movies. Most of the main cast couldn't be replaced at this point. Kitty, Colossus, or Warren? They could if you wanted (which I don't); but not Rogue.
Yes they can. As the films went on her role just greatly decreased. Besides, I'm sure she's among the cast members that will be too expensive to bring back.
Mistopurr83
09-12-2007, 07:44 PM
What I want is a more mature Rogue with Anna Paquin, a better role, well written, and a bit more like the comic. They can developt it, other thing is if they really want to or not.
And that's why I requested a manip of her in a two peice uniform with short hair. You want Anna as Rogue to look tougher and more mature she's gonna have too look that way. That absurd unitard and that hairstyle they gave her just made her look too young, weak and awkward.:o
ToriL90
09-12-2007, 08:00 PM
Yes they can. As the films went on her role just greatly decreased. Besides, I'm sure she's among the cast members that will be too expensive to bring back.
Not enough, though. She had very big roles in both X1 and X2, and was still one of the major characters in X3, even though she didn't get enough screen time. :csad:
Canemacar
09-12-2007, 10:15 PM
Rogue needs to wear a poncho in the next movie. And have a pet ninja-monkey. That would be cool.
ToriL90
09-13-2007, 09:06 AM
And that's why I requested a manip of her in a two peice uniform with short hair. You want Anna as Rogue to look tougher and more mature she's gonna have too look that way. That absurd unitard and that hairstyle they gave her just made her look too young, weak and awkward.:oI don't think the hair was a problem. Anna looks beautiful with long, straight hair. The uniform was bad, but I don't think the hairstyle was.
PS: I was wondering, since Anna doesn't want to bleach in the streak and the wig didn't look right, how would it look to just put a couple white hair pieces/extensions in front? I've never gotten hair extensions or used any kind of hairpiece like that, so I'm not sure if that would work. I just thought it would be nice for most of the hair (the brown, anyway) to be Anna's if that's possible. If not, I guess they can just work on a better wig. :p
Angamb
09-13-2007, 11:50 AM
ToriL, do you think Anna looked beautiful in X3?
ToriL90
09-13-2007, 12:40 PM
ToriL, do you think Anna looked beautiful in X3?Yeah. The wig wasn't great, but Anna is a beautiful young woman and long hair accentuates that a lot better than short IMO. :yay: She looked best in X2, when she had her own long hair and nice clothes.
batboy99
09-13-2007, 04:21 PM
i think anna looks better in other movies then she does in the xmen movies
Rogue's Hand
09-13-2007, 05:06 PM
I love Anna, but she's no Rogue sorry.
Mistopurr83
09-13-2007, 05:37 PM
Not enough, though. She had very big roles in both X1 and X2, and was still one of the major characters in X3, even though she didn't get enough screen time. :csad:
Nah, in X2 she was just a minor recruit and bystander and in X3 she just an extra. In X2 and X3 it looked more like she was written in just to be around. Such a waste.:o
Mistopurr83
09-13-2007, 05:38 PM
I don't think the hair was a problem. Anna looks beautiful with long, straight hair. The uniform was bad, but I don't think the hairstyle was.
But to me, she still looks too young with it.
Angamb
09-13-2007, 06:13 PM
Anna best role was X1, in X2 she was a secondary character, and X3 more secondary yet. But X4 can be her momment again, maybe she'll have a X1 quality role.
ToriL90
09-14-2007, 08:29 AM
But to me, she still looks too young with it.Well, her character is supposed to be 21 at most. How old do you want her to look?
Mr. Socko
09-14-2007, 08:04 PM
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/120/d/5/Rogue_by_icyheart.jpg
viola!
Mistopurr83
09-14-2007, 09:12 PM
Well, her character is supposed to be 21 at most. How old do you want her to look?
In the films, she's only 17. Comic Rogue is around 25 I think.
I want her to look more like she's in her mid 20's.
ToriL90
09-14-2007, 09:17 PM
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/120/d/5/Rogue_by_icyheart.jpg
viola!eh, I was never really crazy about that outfit. It would fit Emma Frost if they wanted to put her in - actually, I'd recommend that outfit for Emma Frost (with a little more white, of course). If Rogue is gonna show skin in X4, I want it to be useful skin: arms and legs, making her more lethal in hand-to-hand combat.
I do like the wavy hair, though, I don't want tight curls, but a little wave like in that drawing would be nice.
ToriL90
09-14-2007, 09:18 PM
In the films, she's only 17. Comic Rogue is around 25 I think.
I want her to look more like she's in her mid 20's.Around 17 in X1, I think 18 in X2, and 21 at most in X3. Anyway, would you go for anything other than short hair? Maybe waves, curls, or some kind of style?
Mistopurr83
09-14-2007, 10:25 PM
Around 17 in X1, I think 18 in X2, and 21 at most in X3. Anyway, would you go for anything other than short hair? Maybe waves, curls, or some kind of style?
Excuse me there are not even six month gaps inbetween each film storywise. So everyone was the same age they were in all three of them.
No. IMO only short hair makes her look more mature.
I'm pretty sure it's been said that there is at least a six month gap between X-Men and X2... I'm not sure about X2 and The Last Stand, but there is definitely more than a couple of weeks between them... Alkali Lake is covered in wintery snow when Jean sacrifices herself, whereas she re-emerges in warmer, snow-less weather. Moreover, there's been a change of Presidents, and a growing change in public opinion which could mean a fair amount of time has passed.
Mr. Socko
09-14-2007, 11:55 PM
The Ratt just had to ruin everything.
Green Goblin 1964
09-15-2007, 08:03 AM
The Ratt just had to ruin everything.Yep, I was looking forward to what Rogue would be up to in X3 and....:csad:
As we all know it wasn't pretty...
F*** YOU RATNER! :cmad:
ToriL90
09-15-2007, 09:48 AM
Excuse me there are not even six month gaps inbetween each film storywise. So everyone was the same age they were in all three of them.
No. IMO only short hair makes her look more mature.
I know there was a 1 month gap between X1 and X2 (listen to what Scott says to Jean in the museum), but I don't think there was any indication of the gap between X2 and X3, was there?
TKing
09-16-2007, 09:30 AM
I don't think there was any indication of the gap between X2 and X3, was there?
No, but Jean's hair was considerably longer and Logan seemed to have gotten over (initially) the death of the woman he "loved". So I guess we can assume it's been a decent amount of time between the final films - at least far longer than the gap between X1 and X2.
ToriL90
09-16-2007, 10:46 AM
No, but Jean's hair was considerably longer and Logan seemed to have gotten over (initially) the death of the woman he "loved". So I guess we can assume it's been a decent amount of time between the final films - at least far longer than the gap between X1 and X2.Yeah, that's my theory, too. I just meant there wasn't any conclusive evidence, like in X2 where Scott flat-out says it had been a month since Liberty Island. I have, however, posted lists of reasons I thought it was probably around 3 years between X2 and X3.
TKing
09-16-2007, 11:03 AM
I think 3 years is a bit of a stretch. After all, if Scott was so tormented by visions of Jean for that length of time, wouldn't he have gone to Alkali Lake before?
ToriL90
09-16-2007, 11:36 AM
I think 3 years is a bit of a stretch. After all, if Scott was so tormented by visions of Jean for that length of time, wouldn't he have gone to Alkali Lake before?Not if he wasn't getting visions the whole time, or if the visions were different before (not pushing him to go back).
Angamb
09-16-2007, 12:09 PM
3 years is crazy. Definetly not true. Probably between 2 and 6 months.
RagingTempest
09-16-2007, 12:14 PM
I hope that they build on Rogue a lot more, because she was one of the characters that degressed during the 3 films. In X1, she had all this development and screen time that was so strong. Then in X2, even though she was "just there", it felt like she was starting to use her powers more, even starting to except who she was. Then in X3, all that depth went away and she got cured just so she and Bobby could "bone"!:whatever: In X4, I hope we see a tougher and independent Rogue; I don't mean the sassy southern balle who can fly and is really strong but her given some strong development again and maybe get her old powers back.:word:
ToriL90
09-16-2007, 12:20 PM
3 years is crazy. Definetly not true. Probably between 2 and 6 months.
There's no way Jean's hair would have grown that much in 6 months, and there's no way Xavier would have concluded that "Scott is a changed man" because he wasn't over his fiance's death in only 6 months. I don't then Rogue and Bobby would have had that much of a communication breakdown in 6 months, either, but I think my first two arguments are stronger than that one.
ToriL90
09-16-2007, 12:23 PM
I hope that they build on Rogue a lot more, because she was one of the characters that degressed during the 3 films. In X1, she had all this development and screen time that was so strong. Then in X2, even though she was "just there", it felt like she was starting to use her powers more, even starting to except who she was. Then in X3, all that depth went away and she got cured just so she and Bobby could "bone"!:whatever: In X4, I hope we see a tougher and independent Rogue; I don't mean the sassy southern balle who can fly and is really strong but her given some strong development again and maybe get her old powers back.:word:
Agreed. She doesn't have Ms. Marvel powers in my script, but she does develop an edge and becomes more independent. Gambit and Rogue form an alliance, but it's an alliance that promotes her independence rather than her neediness.
Angamb
09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
Jean's long hair was more a creative decision than a continuity issue....
ToriL90
09-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Jean's long hair was more a creative decision than a continuity issue....We're basing our theories on clues, not conclusive evidence. The writers might be able to say "yeah, we decided to screw continuity - the movies were a week apart", but they haven't. Ergo, it's just as solid a piece of evidence as anything else.
BobJM
09-16-2007, 07:26 PM
I say a year between X2 and X3
Mistopurr83
09-16-2007, 08:54 PM
Here we go again. This lack of specifying time between X2 and X3 just creates arguments among users.
Angamb
04-03-2008, 05:51 AM
What about this Rogue for X4?
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6531/wavy2pe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Zombie_Comics
04-28-2008, 07:43 AM
I'd love to see a Rogue movie, but only if shes with the Botherhood, but I think it maybe hard to do that considering they tried to kill her and she holds a grudge against them, but still...
It could be said that she left because she already encountered Ms. Marvel and then the movie could be about her dealing with the other personality and trying to get the X-Men's trust again.
Angamb
04-28-2008, 07:48 AM
they don't need Miss Marvel, just one unknown mutant with flying power, and that's all.
Zombie_Comics
05-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Rogue just needs to get her super strength and flight, i'm starting to not care from who she gets it from but i just think that they need to give her that in a movie.
batboy99
05-13-2008, 06:23 PM
What about this Rogue for X4?
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6531/wavy2pe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
if shes willing to kill people and not give a crap sure, but that would never happen, she needs to be covered up more,alot more
Angamb
05-13-2008, 06:36 PM
hahaha, true.
But I was talking more about the hair, hehe. Of course she won't use that costume, hehe. the original photo has this kind of dress.
ToriL90
05-18-2008, 07:50 PM
What about this Rogue for X4?
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6531/wavy2pe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hate the outfit, love the hair. The outfit should have a high neck like all the other X-Men wear, but it should be a sleeveless two-piece with short shorts. I'd love to see a fight scene where she wins with a leg scissor, her bare thighs wrapped around her opponent's neck, draining his/her energy and power until he/she faints. She'd also wear knee-high boots and elbow-length gloves that have a slit down to the wrist for easy removal, buttoning at the elbow to keep them in place. All black, of course, with green piping on the two-piece (no piping on the gloves or boots).
Yup, I've got it all figured out. ;)
Franklin Richards
05-18-2008, 08:01 PM
So there's this mutant. Let's call him Powerhouse, who can benchpress 50 tons, has indestructible skin, and can fly. Let's say he works for the Hellfire Club and is their Black Rook. At one point Powerhouse and Colossus are fighting and Rogue is trying to help. Powerhouse gets Peter trapped by a bunch of boulders. Powerhouse is about to kill Peter until Rogue grabs him and starts to drain his powers. Powerhouse falls to the ground unconscious.
Peter however is being crushed by an amount of weight that he can't lift alone. Rogue rushes to help with a portion of her new found strength. They cannot remove the weight of the mountain together and Peter claims that he is about to pass out. If he passes out he'll revert to normal and he will be killed.
Rogue turns to Powerhouse and drains the remaining strength from him and helps Peter get the boulders off of him. They succeed only to find that Rogue has permanently drained Powerhouse. In effect killing him.
Rogue now has super strength, invulnerability, and flight.
And some guilt.
Would that work? :D
:thing: :doom: :thing:
ToriL90
05-18-2008, 10:24 PM
So there's this mutant. Let's call him Powerhouse, who can benchpress 50 tons, has indestructible skin, and can fly. Let's say he works for the Hellfire Club and is their Black Rook. At one point Powerhouse and Colossus are fighting and Rogue is trying to help. Powerhouse gets Peter trapped by a bunch of boulders. Powerhouse is about to kill Peter until Rogue grabs him and starts to drain his powers. Powerhouse falls to the ground unconscious.
Peter however is being crushed by an amount of weight that he can't lift alone. Rogue rushes to help with a portion of her new found strength. They cannot remove the weight of the mountain together and Peter claims that he is about to pass out. If he passes out he'll revert to normal and he will be killed.
Rogue turns to Powerhouse and drains the remaining strength from him and helps Peter get the boulders off of him. They succeed only to find that Rogue has permanently drained Powerhouse. In effect killing him.
Rogue now has super strength, invulnerability, and flight.
And some guilt.
Would that work? :D
:thing: :doom: :thing:Once Rogue has absorbed the powers, she's absorbed them. She wouldn't have to go back and re-absorb to gain more power. The longer she holds on, the longer the powers last, but the period of touch has nothing to do with the potency of power.
Besides, I don't think those powers fit Rogue. I'd like to see her become comfortable with her own powers in X5, then absorb Pyro's in X5 as a variation on the Sunfire storyline from the comics. Pyro contracts the Legacy Virus, and is treated by Hank at the X-Mansion. As Pyro's health deteriorates, he begs Rogue to kill him with her touch. She refuses, but he makes her promise that the moment he dies, she will touch him, in the hopes that a long enough touch at just the right time will cause a permanent transfer of power and he can "live on" through her. She agrees, figuring she probably won't be in the room when it happens, anyway; however, she does find herself sitting next to his bed at the moment he passes. She instantly grabs his arm and begins absorbing his psyche. His powers rush into her body; his thoughts and memories flood her mind, interspersed with visions of a white light fast approaching. She wonders briefly if her soul is following his to the afterlife, or if she's just watching him go. As the rush of energy reaches its agonizing climax, she collapses to her knees, though her hand remains tightly grasped around his arm. With some effort, she peels her hand off of his skin. Beads of blood peek out from his pores where she had touched him. She looks at her own hand and realizes that it, too, had blood sucked out from its pores. Pyro is now a permanent part of her. Not just his powers, or the guilt she feels over taking his powers at the moment of his death, but his mind and his personality, which now commingle with her own; such that she sometimes has trouble discerning his thoughts and memories from hers.
Huzzah! :bh:</random use of Hulk emoticon>
Angamb
05-19-2008, 05:54 AM
Rogue should be like Peter Petrelli in some form.
They could developt her powers if want it, and making she can have more than one power at the same time, and not necesary permanetly, just during hours or something.
ToriL90
05-19-2008, 09:34 AM
Rogue should be like Peter Petrelli in some form.
They could developt her powers if want it, and making she can have more than one power at the same time, and not necesary permanetly, just during hours or something.
Oh, yes, definitely give her some other powers on a temporary basis. That IS her power, after all: taking other peoples' powers. I'd like to see her take these powers:
BOBBY: Bobby breaks up with her after she takes the cure, and when she comes back, he's together with Kitty. When he first sees her, his heart bleeds for her, but he quickly closes his heart to her and makes some sarcastic comments about her taking the cure to fend off his feelings for her. He doesn't know that she has her powers back, though, so she shows him: she lays one on him right in front of Kitty until he passes out. This marks a change in her attitude toward her powers: experimenting with Bobby's powers, she realizes that she herself is powerful.
GAMBIT: She briefly takes his powers to show him her powers when they meet. Just a sexy little Gambit/Rogue touch for fun. ;)
MYSTIQUE: Gambit and Rogue break into Senator Graydon Creed's office in an attempt to learn more about Sentinels. When Mystique was a human, she worked her way into Creed's office as his secretary so she could give information to the Brotherhood (run by Pyro while Magneto was gone, though Magneto takes over when his powers return). When Mystique's powers returned, she killed Creed and assumed his identity (the family ties don't exist, though Creed still hates mutants for the same reasons as in the comics). Gambit and Rogue fight Mystique when they accidentally meet in Creed's office, Rogue finally taking Mystique down with a leg scissor (the bare legs draining energy thing I was talking about earlier). She uses Mystique's agility and strength to fight her, then uses her shapeshifting abilities to escape.
MAGNETO: By the end of the movie, the Brotherhood and the X-Men team up to take on the Sentinels. I'm not entirely sure of this part, but I'm thinking that Magneto stays out of the actual fight in the same way Xavier always did. In chess, you never play the king unless you absolutely have to. Instead, Rogue takes his powers and fights in his place. It would be a great way to show how Rogue has grown up since X1, when his powers were forced on her and she couldn't control them.
Of course, with Gambit in the Wolverine movie, Gambit/Rogue in the movies seems even less likely than before. =/
There aren't really any opportunities in my X4 for Rogue to take more than one power at the same time, unless there were a reason she would have to quickly swipe powers from one of her teammates during the final battle. In my X5, though, I'm sure she would, since she would have Pyro's powers on a permanent basis. My X5 features Apocalypse and the Four Horsemen, and I'd like the Four Horsemen to include Archangel and Wolverine. I'd love to see Rogue fight Wolverine in the final battle, even if only for like 30 seconds before she gets help. She would take Wolverine's powers while still infused with Pyro's.
Franklin Richards
05-19-2008, 10:09 AM
Once Rogue has absorbed the powers, she's absorbed them. She wouldn't have to go back and re-absorb to gain more power. The longer she holds on, the longer the powers last, but the period of touch has nothing to do with the potency of power.
That's comic Rogue. This is movie Rogue. It would work.
As for Pyro... Nobody knows that Rogue. I was there when she was invented and the Rogue that became popular was the Ms. Marvel Rogue. That's the Rogue that will work, not Emo Rogue from X-Men Evolution, not Fire Rogue from whoever was the genius who took away her super strength,
Powerhouse Rogue is THE Rogue. All others pale in comparison.
:thing: :thing: :thing:
Angamb
05-19-2008, 10:16 AM
I only want a Rogue that uses her power often, whatever form it be.
Phoenix_Flare
05-19-2008, 11:11 AM
if Rogue had a better part in X3, I would've luv to see her develop her super strength n flight and during the Danger Room scene it would have been interesting to see Storm teaching her how to fly...basically it would have been funny seeing Iceman, Shawdowcat,Colossus and Rogue blundering in the Danger Room...and by the time of the final battle Rogue would've have been flying and fighting...
Singer movies were about "Evolution" and actually in X2 Rogue was supposed have her powers evolve, but the idea got cut, so if the idea of evolution continued in Ratners version it would've been cool n Rogue another storyline....
Zombie_Comics
06-30-2008, 12:52 PM
There are alot of things Rogue should of been doing in these movies, but sadly her character was....well.... was weak.
marukisu
06-30-2008, 05:49 PM
For a new rogue i think we should replace the old actress with Eliza Dushku and give her her super strength and flight powers. cant possibly go wrong there :yay:
Zombie_Comics
06-30-2008, 05:52 PM
i think replacing the actress is a bad idea. To replace someone who has played a character for so long it would do the movie wrong. So many would be used to Anna and may not like the new girl.
Angamb
06-30-2008, 05:57 PM
Anna can do a great Rogue. she isn't the problem.
Zombie_Comics
06-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Yeah, Anna is great, the problem is the writers who are making her weak. but maybe if they do a 4th it can take place yrs. later and have Anna play a tough Rogue. it would be believable.
marukisu
06-30-2008, 07:19 PM
Oh i think shes ok overall and she did very well with what they gave her, but Eliza has this tough girl image i think would work great with Rouge.
marukisu
06-30-2008, 07:19 PM
Oh i think shes ok overall and she did very well with what they gave her, but Eliza has this tough girl image i think would work great with Rouge.
Zombie_Comics
06-30-2008, 07:59 PM
Anna can play tough. She a freaking Oscar Winner.
Angamb
07-03-2008, 07:50 AM
yes.
who has seen the latest True Blood fragment in the channel promo video?
it seems her character acts like Rogue would do. I'll see the whole season, just to imagine Anna as Rogue in X4, :)
Zombie_Comics
07-03-2008, 09:42 AM
I sadly don't have HBO. so i can't watch it. :csad:
Angamb
07-03-2008, 11:14 AM
the video is on youtube. and is posted in the Rogue thread in The Last Stand board.
Edit:
Here is the video:
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what do you think?
Zombie_Comics
07-03-2008, 12:06 PM
It looks kinda good, i think i need to see more.
marukisu
07-08-2008, 04:18 PM
Still... i think Eliza Dushku has that rough girl edge that Rouge needs.
Zombie_Comics
07-08-2008, 04:23 PM
I think that she may be too rough, plus Anna can pull more emotion on screen than Eliza I think.
marukisu
07-08-2008, 04:32 PM
thats debateable,but ill put that on hold until Dollhouse comes out and see how many emotions Eliza can cycle through per episode.:yay:
Zombie_Comics
07-08-2008, 04:37 PM
When does that come out, i'm looking forward to that. I'm a fan of Eliza, she was good as Faith in Buffy.
marukisu
07-08-2008, 05:32 PM
i think this upcoming 08-09 tv lineup. idk...for upcoming Fox tv shows ive been hearing alot about Fringe but not so much Dollhouse,but thats when im assuming it comes out.
Zombie_Comics
07-08-2008, 05:34 PM
cool, thanks, I'll check the site later. Maybe they have something on the show and when its coming out.
Angamb
07-17-2008, 08:07 AM
Who watch Heroes?
Do you think Anna's Rogue could be like Peter Petrelli?
flash13
07-30-2008, 10:40 AM
since Rogue is my favorite character i want the next movie to focus on her as the main character
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