View Full Version : How should the scar look on Harvey's face?
Two-Face
07-11-2006, 02:40 PM
I know if Harvey is scared near end of Batman 2 so how should the scar look on Harvey's face?
I pefer something like this:
http://www.mentors.ca/nick-mel.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/danny/mel109.jpg
for those can't see:
http://www.mentors.ca/nick-mel.jpg
http://www.mentors.ca/nick-mel.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/danny/mel109.jpg
So what do you think guys and gals?:)
Ronny Shade
07-11-2006, 02:45 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Sq_2face.jpg
Two-Face
07-11-2006, 03:07 PM
You want it to be blue? Nothing against TAS but that wouldn't look right on screen.
StorminNorman
07-11-2006, 03:10 PM
I would love to see something similar to Tim Sale's Harvey Dent.
JokerNick
07-11-2006, 03:16 PM
mutalated, muscle exposed, completely messed up,
no movemnent either... he can't move the left side of his face except his eyeball, which also is disfigured, have a yellow tint in that eye with red viens
StorminNorman
07-11-2006, 03:18 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/image.php?u=9498&dateline=1149632066 (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/member.php?u=9498) <---- The Perfect Two-Face.
Mr. Thing
07-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Preferably like real acid burns. Tim Sale's Two Face looks cool too, but with Nolan's realism, I think the look of real acid burns is more plausible.
Anjow1060
07-11-2006, 03:42 PM
just so that it's imperfect and not stylized.
BTW: Thank God for the first REAL thread in a long time.........
Ronny Shade
07-11-2006, 03:44 PM
You want it to be blue? Nothing against TAS but that wouldn't look right on screen.
was kidding
I think it should look like a toned down version of Nic Cage's face in Face Off when he has no face.
Two-Face
07-11-2006, 04:03 PM
was kidding
I think it should look like a toned down version of Nic Cage's face in Face Off when he has no face.
I like movie "Man Without A Face" stars Mel Gibson and Face Off good one too.
The Last Meatbag
07-11-2006, 04:37 PM
I like the manip Dorkyfresh did of Liev Schreiber
NinjaTurtleFan
07-11-2006, 04:41 PM
The scarred face should be along the lines of "Darkman" meets "BTAS"'s Two-Face meets Jigsaw from "The Punisher."
Two-Face
07-11-2006, 04:58 PM
The scarred face should be along the lines of "Darkman" meets "BTAS"'s Two-Face meets Jigsaw from "The Punisher."
You mean this?:
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
Cinemaman
07-11-2006, 05:18 PM
Some mixture of The Darkman and Two-Face from The Long Halloween :up:
And I want it to be more realistic.
NinjaTurtleFan
07-11-2006, 05:24 PM
You mean this?:
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
Yeah, that and a little bit of "BTAS" spliced in would be fricking cool, but what I'd love to see is a scene in the hospital after Harvey got disfigured and he wakes up from his hospital bed and notice guase all over his face. He rushes to the mirror and he starts unraveling each layer of guase till he's staring back at his new self. He smashes the mirror and screams loudly and than smashes the window to his room and flees into the night, but it's raining and thundering outside and everywhere he goes, lightnining flashes, and he sees his reflection and it drives him even more insane.
darknight7
07-11-2006, 06:21 PM
mutalated, muscle exposed, completely messed up,
no movemnent either... he can't move the left side of his face except his eyeball, which also is disfigured, have a yellow tint in that eye with red viens
Where is your avatar from? (what movie)?
I would love his face to be realisticly messed up to the worst possible state. His teeth should be slightly seen, he shouldn't have NO LIPS, he shouldn't have NO EYELID, it should just be a bit distorted. See some muscle in certain parts of the face. Have his hair mostly burnt away at the front of his head, but towards the back and side have his hair still on his head. Have his ear partially burnt, but still recognizable as an ear.
*Scary enough that kids at ages 5-7 will turn away in fear...:)*
--dk7
Mr. Credible
07-11-2006, 06:38 PM
You mean this?:
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
YES!!!
only cut the face in half like two face.
DorkyFresh
07-11-2006, 07:36 PM
I like the manip Dorkyfresh did of Liev Schreiber
thanx....MEATBAG! hehe
i don't want anyone to think i keep posting this because of i have a big head or anything (i admit i do) but i DID make this for everyone's viewing pleasure so enjoy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/2face2sm.jpg
bstringer
07-11-2006, 08:47 PM
Thats amazing, and i'd say its the closest one i've seen to what he'll really look like in the movies. it isnt too far fetched! i love it.
StorminNorman
07-11-2006, 09:00 PM
DorkyFresh is by far one of the best posters when it comes to manips.
The Last Meatbag
07-11-2006, 09:01 PM
thanx....MEATBAG! hehe
i don't want anyone to think i keep posting this because of i have a big head or anything (i admit i do) but i DID make this for everyone's viewing pleasure so enjoy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/2face2sm.jpg
:O:up:
Dr.Doom
07-12-2006, 02:00 AM
http://www.awencreations.co.uk/images/ACIDBURN.JPEG
Jack Napier
07-12-2006, 03:47 AM
Is Two-Face going to have a suit with two opposing colors on both sides? If Nolan is going for the realistic approach, that might seem kinda silly. Why would Two-Face spend his time dividing his suit into two different color schemes?
If they decide to use that, fine. I'm sure they can make it work somehow.
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 08:44 AM
Is Two-Face going to have a suit with two opposing colors on both sides? If Nolan is going for the realistic approach, that might seem kinda silly. Why would Two-Face spend his time dividing his suit into two different color schemes?
If they decide to use that, fine. I'm sure they can make it work somehow.
You do understand the meaning of the word "obsessed," right? as in "obsessed with the number 2"?
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 08:48 AM
Exactly, Two-Face breaks on Gotham Bank on Feb 2 at 2.00am. Yep he's obsessed all right with two.
dr venture
07-12-2006, 11:09 AM
Where is your avatar from? (what movie)?
It's from Dawn of the Dead. I laughed at that scene too
WebSlingerSlick
07-12-2006, 12:15 PM
You mean this?:
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
http://people.whitman.edu/~herbrawt/photos/Darkman0.jpg
That would be a great depiction of what Two Face should look like when he appears on screen in the third Batman Begins sequel. Also I think that the Batman Animated Series version should be incorporated in the visual apperance of the character. That would look amazing. I was very impressed with the illustrations of Two Face in "THE LONG HALLOWEEN". Christopher Nolan has decided to take a darker path than Tim Burton with Batman Begins. Joker and Two Face seem as if they will be portrayed in a very grim and dark style. The opposite of Schumacher's Two Face conveyed by Tommy Lee Jones in Batman Forever. (However I respect Tommy Lee Jones despite Joel Schumacher's destruction in the Batman series) If Batman and Robin did not fail Batman Begins would not even exist. So I suppose I should be thanking Joel Schumacher?
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 12:30 PM
I respect Joel Schumacher despite Val Kilmer's destruction of the Batman series
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Val Kilmer was the one of the wanted a a darker version of Batman film but Schumacher went with gay film.
EDIT: This always gets out of hand, we end up talking about something else.
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 12:51 PM
sorry, I hate everybody when they hate on Joel Schumacher
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 01:12 PM
The only way Joel Schumacher would of saved the Bat franchise was if Kiefer Sutherland played Bruce Wayne.
Cinemaman
07-12-2006, 01:28 PM
I have good feeling, BB2 can get Oscar Award for Best Make-up, if they makes excellent make-up for Joker and Two-Face.
I want the scar on face to look like from The Darkman, but more effective.
But I also want his suit to be from BTAS, or some kind of this.
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 02:02 PM
The only way Joel Schumacher would of saved the Bat franchise was if Kiefer Sutherland played Bruce Wayne.
And every movie with Joel and Kiefer is both awesome, dark, and very Batman-ish.
It was the studio execs. Making the whole thing gay was just Joel's way of dealing with studio pressure. I do not in any way blame him for what happened.
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 02:04 PM
And every movie with Joel and Kiefer is both awesome, dark, and very Batman-ish.
It was the studio execs. Making the whole thing gay was just Joel's way of dealing with studio pressure. I do not in any way blame him for what happened.
Nor do I. WB showed that they had no respect for their Superhero franchises - Joel was doomed to begin with.
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 02:15 PM
I'm glad you agree with me norm
Hah, we need some news, these threads just get nerdier and nerdier. No offense.:D
ReTrO JuNkIe 42
07-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Yeah, that and a little bit of "BTAS" spliced in would be fricking cool, but what I'd love to see is a scene in the hospital after Harvey got disfigured and he wakes up from his hospital bed and notice guase all over his face. He rushes to the mirror and he starts unraveling each layer of guase till he's staring back at his new self. He smashes the mirror and screams loudly and than smashes the window to his room and flees into the night, but it's raining and thundering outside and everywhere he goes, lightnining flashes, and he sees his reflection and it drives him even more insane.
Thats perfect and should go down just like that :up: :up:
theShape
07-12-2006, 03:05 PM
DorkyFresh's manip is near perfect. That would be awesome.
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 03:15 PM
I'm glad you agree with me norm
:up:
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Hah, we need some news, these threads just get nerdier and nerdier. No offense.:D
Well once the movie hits on screen, this same thread will be created. No offence.:o
Cinemaman
07-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Intersting, when they will confirm the title.
Maybe in October during The Prestige's premiere.
Well once the movie hits on screen, this same thread will be created.
"Not if anything to say about it I have."
Retroman
07-12-2006, 03:41 PM
Intersting, when they will confirm the title.
Maybe in October during The Prestige's premiere.
If they follow the schedule of the last film full pre-production and screentests could start in September, title could be announced in February and filming could start in March.
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 03:42 PM
Intersting, when they will confirm the title.
Maybe in October during The Prestige's premiere.
October?? That's very long time:( :down
Cinemaman
07-12-2006, 03:43 PM
October?? That's very long time:( :down
Yeah, I know :(
ISHMAEL
07-12-2006, 03:54 PM
I have good feeling, BB2 can get Oscar Award for Best Make-up, if they makes excellent make-up for Joker and Two-Face.
I want the scar on face to look like from The Darkman, but more effective.
But I also want his suit to be from BTAS, or some kind of this.
:up:
Ronny Shade
07-12-2006, 03:59 PM
October?? That's very long time:( :down
you understand my lack of enthusiasm on the batman front of late:(
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 04:14 PM
you understand my lack of enthusiasm on the batman front of late:(
Heres hopin for some sort of an announcement at Comic-Con :(
"Big news out of Comic-Con today, WB has officially announced a sequel to Batman Begins set for release summer 2008."
Woo and yay.
This is not to say I'm not hoping for more, but that is what I expect.
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 05:59 PM
I want the scar on face to look like from The Darkman, but more effective.
But I also want his suit to be from BTAS, or some kind of this.
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/10.jpg
Ahh yes the suit from the TAS, that could work as well but I also like this one too:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
NinjaTurtleFan
07-12-2006, 06:03 PM
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/10.jpg
Ahh yes the suit from the TAS, that could work as well but I also like this one too:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
"BTAS" suit would work with Nolan's dark theme.
Orko Is King
07-12-2006, 06:06 PM
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/10.jpg
And then make his face like it was in the most current Jamie Robinson story arc, only with a less straight line going down the middle.
Two-Face
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
"BTAS" suit would work with Nolan's dark theme.
Yes the TAS suit would better now that I think about it, but the scar on TLH Two-Face would better.
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 06:22 PM
Instead of Two-Faces suit actually being two colors, I would prefer that Harvey normally stood in a way so that the shadow made the right side seem darker than the other.
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 06:23 PM
His left - our right - just to clarify.
NinjaTurtleFan
07-12-2006, 08:51 PM
Instead of Two-Faces suit actually being two colors, I would prefer that Harvey normally stood in a way so that the shadow made the right side seem darker than the other.
Nah, the double-sided suit is iconic because it represents good and evil, night and day, light vs. dark. I would use the shadows only in the beginning leaving Two-Face in a sense of mystery of "What did really happen to Harvey?"
Mr. Movie Man
07-12-2006, 10:18 PM
I don't think the Darkman scar would work because there would be a risk for infections with all that tissue exposed. I would prefer for an acid burn, with half his lips gone etc, yet with no muscle tissue exposed. He should also periodically have to take pills in order to fight the pain. As for the split suit, I'm not sold on it. Maybe have one half ripped in spots, or maybe one side is made of a more rough fabric in texture and appearance, but not completely different like in Batman Forever
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 10:57 PM
Nah, the double-sided suit is iconic because it represents good and evil, night and day, light vs. dark. I would use the shadows only in the beginning leaving Two-Face in a sense of mystery of "What did really happen to Harvey?"
Two-Face's face is iconic, his coin is iconic, the suit is not. His face and coin are the key metephores - the suit is not.
NinjaTurtleFan
07-12-2006, 11:13 PM
Two-Face's face is iconic, his coin is iconic, the suit is not. His face and coin are the key metephores - the suit is not.
Yes, but he's two separate minds, two personalities, trying to stay alive and dormant inside one body. And the suit reflects that nature of Dr. Jekyll vs. Mr. Hyde or Harvey vs. Big Bad Harv.
The Fallen
07-12-2006, 11:16 PM
The 'halve-halve' suit looks silly. That would have been like Scarecrow running around in a full on Scarecrow outfit. The mask was all that was really needed, along with the straight jacket.
The coin is a must. I'll be interesting to see how 'Two-Face' is actually setup from being a hotshot D.A, to a unbalanced manic with a duality complex...
StorminNorman
07-12-2006, 11:33 PM
Yes, but he's two separate minds, two personalities, trying to stay alive and dormant inside one body. And the suit reflects that nature of Dr. Jekyll vs. Mr. Hyde or Harvey vs. Big Bad Harv.
Question - where would one get a half and half suit?
NinjaTurtleFan
07-12-2006, 11:36 PM
Question - where would one get a half and half suit?
He could have it tailored for him. All he's got to do is hold up the place at gunpoint. I mean not everything has to be logical nowadays.
DorkyFresh
07-13-2006, 12:13 AM
DorkyFresh is by far one of the best posters when it comes to manips.
thanks dude! glad to know i have a fan around here...hehe.
StorminNorman
07-13-2006, 12:27 AM
He could have it tailored for him. All he's got to do is hold up the place at gunpoint. I mean not everything has to be logical nowadays.
Still say the half and half suit is too gimicky and wouldn't work well in a movie.
StorminNorman
07-13-2006, 12:28 AM
thanks dude! glad to know i have a fan around here...hehe.
:up:
Jinnobi
07-13-2006, 12:43 AM
How do you people know Two-Face is going to be in the film? I also agree that Liev Schieber should get the nod for him if he is.
StorminNorman
07-13-2006, 12:53 AM
A little Goyer told us.
Zilleraut #66
07-13-2006, 05:53 AM
thanx....MEATBAG! hehe
i don't want anyone to think i keep posting this because of i have a big head or anything (i admit i do) but i DID make this for everyone's viewing pleasure so enjoy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/2face2sm.jpgGreatness IMO. I would also always have him putting drops into his eye and have a little less hair. I just saw an episode of Nip/ Tuck in which a lady had Two Face syndrome. That was a great look too.
Ronny Shade
07-13-2006, 08:41 AM
for the record I'm highly in favor of the split suit.
Always have been
Cinemaman
07-13-2006, 09:18 AM
http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/btas/bios/twoface/10.jpg
Ahh yes the suit from the TAS, that could work as well but I also like this one too:
http://www.vacuumboy9.com/tlh/13p23.jpg
Well The Long Halloween version is the best for me.
I also want him to have hair on 2nd half of face :up:
Dark Phantom
07-13-2006, 10:18 AM
Still say the half and half suit is too gimicky and wouldn't work well in a movie.
uhhh..yes it would
As someone said before, have you ever heard of "obsession"? The half suit reflects his duel personality. It doesn't have to be a gimick. During the process of Harvey's transformation, he can ran-sack his apartment and start ripping apart his clothes. Thats when he discovers 2 suits that reflect his duality. In his crazed state, he'll do what Catwoman did in BR. Harvey sloppily sews a clean black suit with a ratty brown sports coat. In the back of the half-suit, you can see the zig-zag seam that connects the 2 suits.
Its feasable and you know that Nolan can do it:up:
Swordmaster
07-13-2006, 12:06 PM
I personally think that the way to do the dual suit thing is simple: Have one side normal, and have another side covered in blood. It's simple, cool, and creepy. Plus, you still have the duality aspect
Ronny Shade
07-13-2006, 12:17 PM
just have him show up in the suit like in TLH
NinjaTurtleFan
07-13-2006, 12:37 PM
uhhh..yes it would
As someone said before, have you ever heard of "obsession"? The half suit reflects his duel personality. It doesn't have to be a gimick. During the process of Harvey's transformation, he can ran-sack his apartment and start ripping apart his clothes. Thats when he discovers 2 suits that reflect his duality. In his crazed state, he'll do what Catwoman did in BR. Harvey sloppily sews a clean black suit with a ratty brown sports coat. In the back of the half-suit, you can see the zig-zag seam that connects the 2 suits.
Its feasable and you know that Nolan can do it:up:
Thank you. See Norman it works.
KrazyJ1098
07-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Personally, I think it would look a little odd to have him in a dual suit setup as well. I like the idea of just having one half of the suit being ripped and shredded in spots. It just seems more like something Nolan would do in his ultra realistic approach of the Dark Knight.
Ronny Shade
07-13-2006, 02:23 PM
Personally, I think it would look a little odd to have him in a dual suit setup as well. I like the idea of just having one half of the suit being ripped and shredded in spots. It just seems more like something Nolan would do in his ultra realistic approach of the Dark Knight.
I hate that idea
Jinnobi
07-13-2006, 03:15 PM
Make it realistic. The torn idea works for me. It represents his dual personality rather well.
ReptileOrion
07-13-2006, 07:45 PM
The suit isn't a huge deal. As long as Two Face's scarred side of this face looks good it will work. He should also have the coin and an obsession with the number two. I'm concerned on how the role is going to played. I didn't care for Tommy Lee Jones' performance in Forever. He was way too...let's just say over the top...haha. Would everyone prefer the character be portrayed in a way similar to the animated series or something different?
StorminNorman
07-13-2006, 10:33 PM
uhhh..yes it would
As someone said before, have you ever heard of "obsession"? The half suit reflects his duel personality. It doesn't have to be a gimick. During the process of Harvey's transformation, he can ran-sack his apartment and start ripping apart his clothes. Thats when he discovers 2 suits that reflect his duality. In his crazed state, he'll do what Catwoman did in BR. Harvey sloppily sews a clean black suit with a ratty brown sports coat. In the back of the half-suit, you can see the zig-zag seam that connects the 2 suits.
Its feasable and you know that Nolan can do it:up:
Harvey Dent, Gotham's Apollo, Fantastic Attorny and World Class Seamstress? No - again to gimicky. The Coin is what matters with two face - the suit doesn't.
The Fallen
07-13-2006, 10:50 PM
Harvey Dent, Gotham's Apollo, Fantastic Attorny and World Class Seamstress? No - again to gimicky. The Coin is what matters with two face - the suit doesn't.
Here Here. I'm willing to allow some ripping on one side, but that's it. No multi-colour suit, too distracting, too 'kiddie' IMO.
NinjaTurtleFan
07-13-2006, 11:30 PM
I don't know I still stand by the double-sided suit. It just flows easily because Two-Face is a Jekyll and Mr. Hyde character. He carries a two-sided quarter, he has two personalities, his face is split between the middle. Why can't he have his iconic double-sided suit?
I mean Nolan could work in Norman's idea where Two-Face is hidden behind shadows and such, but after awhile it'd come out as "The Smoking Man" from "The X-Files" where we always see half a face and body. I want Two-Face to be visible with the white and black suit. He doesn't need zebra skin like Schumacher gave him, nor does he need some crimeboss look to him, just a suit that shows he's struggling between right and wrong, good vs. evil, light vs. dark, etc.
Borat
07-13-2006, 11:36 PM
For his suit just have the one side with burnt acid holes. And maybe later on he patches them up with ugly dirty patches. Just an idea.
Katsuro
07-14-2006, 02:01 AM
I don't know I still stand by the double-sided suit. It just flows easily because Two-Face is a Jekyll and Mr. Hyde character. He carries a two-sided quarter, he has two personalities, his face is split between the middle. Why can't he have his iconic double-sided suit?
First you give him the double-sided-suit, then you have his goons wearing two-sided outfits, then his house is split down the middle, then he's robbing the 2nd National Bank on February 2nd at 2:22 am, twice. There's a point at which it goes from simply representing his duality and his split personality, to becomming a lame gimmick. I just hope the Nolan's know where to draw that line.
NinjaTurtleFan
07-14-2006, 07:42 AM
First you give him the double-sided-suit, then you have his goons wearing two-sided outfits, then his house is split down the middle, then he's robbing the 2nd National Bank on February 2nd at 2:22 am, twice. There's a point at which it goes from simply representing his duality and his split personality, to becomming a lame gimmick. I just hope the Nolan's know where to draw that line.
His goons don't need two-sided suits. Just him. His goons could be like what Falcone had. Hell they could be ex-Arkyamites for all I care.
Digital_Ashes
07-14-2006, 10:55 AM
^ that was his lame old gimmick....
Ronny Shade
07-14-2006, 12:52 PM
It should look like this:
http://www.bangornews.com/news/articlefiles/r.aspx?f=gallery/news/071406_LOBSTER.JPG
chosen1
07-14-2006, 07:45 PM
I 'd say have the scar affect a portion of his face and it would spread a little but have him do the rest of the scaring himself make it sort of twisted like. :up:
Katsuro
07-15-2006, 01:57 AM
His goons don't need two-sided suits. Just him. His goons could be like what Falcone had. Hell they could be ex-Arkyamites for all I care.
I know they don't, that was my point. Once you start giving him these gimmicky things like two-sided suits and split rooms, then it just escalates until he's doing crap like robbing the 2nd national bank at 2:22 am of February 2nd. The two-sided suit might work, but it does run the risk of grossing that line into becoming gimmicky.
batlovescatDC
07-15-2006, 10:34 PM
Joker is probably going to be the one to scar him, which it will probably mean the special acid flower Joker has. Which means that the acid is from Acme... the same acid that created Joker. So it needs to be whiteish.
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