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Statement
07-12-2006, 05:47 PM
this movie was re-made.

Yes, im serious. Thats how bad i thought this film was. Rattner is a total **** up. he should make rush hour 3 then never make another film again.
x3 had no heart, no emotion,no good plots or well executed plots is a better way of putting things. No ______ dialogue. no cures. by no cures i mean nobody being cured(magneto,rogue,mystique) no pointless new ****ty villains and no lead character executions. it would be one of the best things to happen if this movie was re-made. i was depressed and pissed after seeing this film because it never felt like the other 2 x men movies. it was completely different.

i havent seen superman returns yet and probably wont see it for a while(but i will get 2 watcing it just to see what singer left us xmen fans for) but i hear it isnt all that good. so now his superman film has been named a dissapointment imagine he took this personally and decided its time to finish his x men trilogy. same plot just a very different script. and not call it the last stand. and if he did this imagine if it was a huge sucess and x4 went ahead wih the sentinals as the bad guys.

i know, i know, crazy right but i bet i aint the only person who is thinking this. let us dream lol.

what do u guys think.

hey had a thought what if they brought nightcrawler back in. keep beast because his role was important to the cure plot i thought.and i think beasts and nightcrawler could have a deep connection involving the cure both being blue mutants and based on his lines in x2 crawler and beast both have strong views on mutant roles in society. get rid of angel and save him for x4. keep juggernaut just better actor to play him. keep kitty to be the monkey wrench in rogues and icemans relationship so that plot can move forward. make colossus a bigger part. get rid of the 4 new other villains. they were ****. oh and last but certainly not least never mis-use the characterof wolverine ever again.

Iceman
07-12-2006, 05:50 PM
If it was that bad, it wouldn't really be worth doing a remake. Opinions are mixed as with most films.

DarknessOfDeath
07-12-2006, 05:51 PM
Don't we all wish? I doubt it'll ever be re-made. I wouldn't keep your hopes up. It would be nice if Singer shot some new footage and added them into x3and change the ending. but I doubt it.

But if I were singer, I'd do what needs to be done: do it- make your own version. lol. or adjust x3. -sighs-

S7ilver
07-12-2006, 05:52 PM
You're gonna have to wait at least 10-15 years to see a remake

Lightning Strykez!
07-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Statement...

Let's use the term "gay" in its appropriate context--not in a derrogatory manner please.

Thanks.

Statement
07-12-2006, 06:00 PM
if singer realises what rattner did and decides soemthing needs 2 be done then i think it would take less than 10-15 years. keep all the same cast, but i was thinking would you want to re-cast beast?????dilemma 4 me.

TrailerCues
07-12-2006, 06:06 PM
Never going to happen while FOX has the rights

Iceman
07-12-2006, 06:07 PM
if singer realises what rattner did and decides soemthing needs 2 be done then i think it would take less than 10-15 years. keep all the same cast, but i was thinking would you want to re-cast beast?????dilemma 4 me.I thought Kelsey Grammer was a good choice for Beast. I'm sure there are a number of fans who would prefer X3 to be remade in the near future (there's certain things I'd definitely want to change) but how often does this really happen within 10 years? A Batman Begins style reboot would be a different proposal but even then it would mean admitting that the first films weren't good enough. It will never happen because X3 is not a universally disliked flop on the level of Batman and Robin.

chaseter
07-12-2006, 06:44 PM
They will not re-make X3...that idea would be totally unprofitable for Fox. Only hardcore fanboys like us would care anything about it. The general public, which is who they are shooting for, might be confused at the matter and not go see it. They will never re-make this film because it is not a classic, a cheap horror flick, nor a cheesy comedy.

Skullbearer
07-12-2006, 06:45 PM
Wouldnt it be great .... if people stopped complained about a movie that has already been made ...

DarknessOfDeath
07-12-2006, 06:50 PM
most of us (not myself included) will never accept X3 for what it became.

gambitfire
07-12-2006, 07:34 PM
X3? what X3? i didn't know there was an X3. It must be a lie or some kind of nightmare.

ntcrawler
07-12-2006, 07:44 PM
X3? what X3? i didn't know there was an X3. It must be a lie or some kind of nightmare.

Hey you're right! We're still waiting to see what happens after X2. So far we just got this alternate timeline "what-if" story.

Now let's see what REALLY happens! :D

gambitfire
07-12-2006, 07:51 PM
oh you mean the what if we decided to make a bad version of an X-men movie that came out a month ago?

ntcrawler
07-12-2006, 07:57 PM
oh you mean the what if we decided to make a bad version of an X-men movie that came out a month ago?

Yeah you know how those alternate stories are. they try doing shocking crazy things for fun. Like over here.

"Just for kicks, and I know how crazy this is, let's see what would happen if the first thing Jean did after coming back would be to kill Scott"

"And then Wolverine takes his place as her lover?"

"Yeah"

"It's brilliant! The fans will go nuts!"

gambitfire
07-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Oh we went nuts all right!!! :(

ntcrawler
07-12-2006, 08:03 PM
Oh we went nuts all right!!! :(

That's why I agree with the subject of this thread

"haha, very funny, now show us what REALLY happens"

Rac
07-12-2006, 08:07 PM
this movie was re-made.
Yes it would.

...with Singer & his team...

bexta89
07-12-2006, 10:01 PM
Have Singer do X4, and have it start with Cyclops waking up from a nightmare (X3). Then have him hear Jeans voice calling to him, and he panics. Then have the damn opening theme like the first 2 movies, with Cerebro's doors! I think that annoyed me the most, the theme wasn't the same. It didn't feel like X-Men.

CapBeerCino
07-13-2006, 01:49 AM
Yes it would.

...with Singer & his team...

^ What he said.

Pyro666
07-13-2006, 02:22 AM
i didnt see why FOX just waited until singer was done with superman and then he can pik up x-men again.......im one of those people who try to love every comic book movie made so far (looking at the positive sides of the movie) but x3 was just awful, some scenes was god and all but it just sucked

ntcrawler
07-13-2006, 02:27 AM
^^^ due to Politics. When singer went to do Superman, he left because FOX was feeding him lines and giving him the runaround. He went to a rival studio. I doubt both studios would let him make films that competed against each other. that's also why X3 was released when it was released: to come first before Superman Returns. Ego wars sure are ugly

obeastdyke
07-13-2006, 03:25 AM
I dont want Singer making anymore X-men movies hes gonna make it flop. Like it or not people go see the X-men movies for the action not the drama.

La_She-Beast
07-13-2006, 05:09 AM
Statement, you should go and watch SR:supes:... the only inconvenient of the film is that makes you feel worse, cuz X3 could've been better, but everything was really good.

Like it or not people go see the X-men movies for the action not the drama.

You're joking right?
Sorry, but that's kind of incorrect. I know that many people are just fed up of watching the goodies and the baddies punch each other, "we fight because we're the best", etc. That's why they're making new versions of superheroes either in the Marvel Universe either in the DC: not just because of the special effects, but to demonstrate there's an INTENTION behind each character, that they have dignity in them. Personally, I think the "final battle" was embarassing. Snappy moments and phrases, Wolverine in the screen every damn minute, Dragon Ball Z, no "creativity" in the fights, etc.


Oh and coming back to topic... yes, everything was just a terrible nightmare :D

Nell2ThaIzzay
07-13-2006, 05:22 AM
Have Singer do X4, and have it start with Cyclops waking up from a nightmare (X3). Then have him hear Jeans voice calling to him, and he panics. Then have the damn opening theme like the first 2 movies, with Cerebro's doors! I think that annoyed me the most, the theme wasn't the same. It didn't feel like X-Men.

Um, this one HAD the Cerebro doors...

AVEITWITHJAMON
07-13-2006, 06:29 AM
If only they would re-make it, but there is more chance of Fox admittin they made a huge mistake and giving Bryan Singer $500 million to re-make the whole trilogy. In other words no.

Does anyone think Fox executive meeting for comic book movies goes something like the Orange adverts before each movie here in the U.K. "Were gonna make the fourth in the trilogy." Ha ha i think i am onto something here.

Decay
07-13-2006, 08:34 AM
The movie shouldn't be remade. That was it, either he liked it or not. We'll just have to wait for the sequels to see something else.

Statement
07-13-2006, 04:59 PM
im glad im getting a lot of back up on this topic. im glad other people can see how bad and how much of an insult this was comapre to singers Xfilms. ad to the guy who said peopl see these movies for action should take that back. what made u like the first 2 movies. dont say the action because the drama was more in your face than the action. and no offesne to singer because he made two great x men movies but his action isnt breath taking. its his storys that kept me hooked. thats what he does. now think about thwat he could have done with the cure plot and the dark pheonix plot. i doubt singer would have turned jean grey into the next jason vorhees. and he wouldnt have killed cyclops or prof.X after we get to know little things about them in the first 2 xmen films. there is muh more to learn about each of them. i think singer might have killed off jean grey. not sure. night crawler would have been back for sure. even if beat was brought in. mystique and magneto wouldnt have been cured and he would never have made rogue take he cure. that goes against the morale of the story. dont change who you are, you dont have to.duh. also singer would take us back on his emotional ride as he did with x1 and x2. also he wouldnt have brought new ****ty villains and wouldnt have casted vinnie jones as jugger. singer should kick attners talentless ass.


i know some people might think im going to far now but if so many agree with the idea of a re-make i think a petition should be made and then after a while it should be sent to fox. i will only begin the idea if people agree tho. wat u all think?

also now that marvel are funding there own movies wouldnt it be great if they bought back the rights from fox with the money they will rake in from spidey3,ff2,ghost rider,blade series and funded the re-make. they would do it if they have enough respect for the material they have. dreaming is such a tease.

Majik1387
07-13-2006, 05:07 PM
After seeing this X3 I would want to know how Vaughn's movie would have been like. To see if it holds up to Singer's.

Cosmic Mind
07-13-2006, 05:11 PM
pretty much like that.....starting X4 with Cyclops having a nightmare(X3).......is interesting, but the best option is to wait for Singer to take X4 and redeem the series, there are a lot of plot holes to fill (Cyclops, Xavier, and Jean) and X4 will be the solution.

tonytr1687
07-13-2006, 05:28 PM
The question is: what exactly do you think Singer would have done with X3? I certainly think Cyclops would have lived and been a more central character, not the main character, but definitely with a larger focus. I also think the Phoenix storyline would have been more true to the comics with the Hellfire Club and whatnot (Singer wanted White Queen). I could see Xavier still dying since it was kinda foreshadowed in X1, and I think Magneto would have died along with him in order to mirror the deaths of MLK and Malcolm X. And Jean's death would have probably been similar to what Harris and Dougherty described in their commentary, with Scott breaking through to her and her letting him kill her with his optic blast. There would be no cure storyline, Phoenix would be the main plot. And even with Fox's reluctance I dont think it would have mattered since, as Kinberg said, Singer had gained a lot of power after X2...so Fox would have been much more leniant.

La_She-Beast
07-13-2006, 05:54 PM
^...he would've developed the cure thing much, much more... how EVERYONE'S affected by it *coughs*beastvswolverinefightscene*coughs*

Singer to take X4 and redeem the series

Do you think he's going to come back? *sighs*:eek:

DarknessOfDeath
07-13-2006, 06:40 PM
I want Singer to come back. Hell i'd do anything... Maybe sleep with him :eek:

Mike059jig
07-13-2006, 06:56 PM
Whoa now..come on Really!!:eek: ..are u a chick..if you are I would like to introduce myself as singer:D

chaseter
07-13-2006, 07:00 PM
Whoa now..come on Really!!:eek: ..are u a chick..if you are I would like to introduce myself as singer:D
You will be dissapointed....:)

Mike059jig
07-13-2006, 07:02 PM
Ahh sh#*...nevermind..who was that guy on my computer that just typed that!!!

DarknessOfDeath
07-13-2006, 07:03 PM
OMG... hahaha. Guess your out of luck then. mauahahaha. :p

Im a guy

chaseter
07-13-2006, 07:31 PM
I love it when new kids get aroused by comments from other posters whom they don't know the gender of. Great stuff. It has happened before on here. Back to topic...X3 will never get re-made. That idea is just completely dumb.

DarknessOfDeath
07-13-2006, 07:33 PM
can't you tell by my avvy that I'm a guy who's got the hots for Dr. Jean Grey? ;) Look at her... they could make a movie out of my avvy. lol haha.

Rac
07-13-2006, 08:28 PM
Have Singer do X4, and have it start with Cyclops waking up from a nightmare (X3).
I've been saing that since 24.5.2006. :)

i didnt see why FOX just waited until singer was done with superman and then he can pik up x-men again.......im one of those people who try to love every comic book movie made so far (looking at the positive sides of the movie) but x3 was just awful, some scenes was god and all but it just sucked^^^ due to Politics. When singer went to do Superman, he left because FOX was feeding him lines and giving him the runaround. He went to a rival studio. I doubt both studios would let him make films that competed against each other. that's also why X3 was released when it was released: to come first before Superman Returns. Ego wars sure are ugly
It's funny because in several interviews done in May of 2003 Singer answered "I don't know. I'm probably going to do some other movie before that. Don't know is it big or small, but I'm gonna something else." if someone asked about X3. It ended being big; SR.

At that time he was heavily attached to do Logan's Run. That's also in WB lot. And I remember Lauren Shuler Donner saying in one interview regarding X3: "We are doing it. With or without Bryan." or something like that.

gambitfire
07-13-2006, 08:29 PM
Im a guy

:eek: GET OUT!!!.........your lying :o

borinquenknight
07-13-2006, 10:37 PM
Xmen Returns: Directed by Bryan Singer.

Cyclops
07-14-2006, 12:04 AM
Scene: A bedroom. It is morning. JEAN GREY is in bed. We can hear the shower running offscreen.

JEAN awakes with a start, and then looks around the room, confused. She gets up, and walks over to the bathroom and opens the door. SCOTT SUMMERS is in the shower, wearing ruby-quartz goggles.

SCOTT: "Jean? Jean, what's wrong?"

JEAN: "I had this terrible dream... I killed you... then I killed the Professor... then I went all 'Carrie' on hundreds of people... then I confessed true love to Wolverine... oh, Scott, it was awful!"

SCOTT: "There, there, Jean... it was just a dream... everything's okay..."

And there you have it, Dallas fans, the opening scene for X-Men 4. :) Plus - who shot JR? I mean Magneto? Who shot Magneto?

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 12:47 AM
Xmen Returns: Directed by Bryan Singer.

Yes! That's a perfect Title!!!

X4: X-Men Return

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 12:50 AM
Scene: A bedroom. It is morning. JEAN GREY is in bed. We can hear the shower running offscreen.

JEAN awakes with a start, and then looks around the room, confused. She gets up, and walks over to the bathroom and opens the door. SCOTT SUMMERS is in the shower, wearing ruby-quartz goggles.

SCOTT: "Jean? Jean, what's wrong?"

JEAN: "I had this terrible dream... I killed you... then I killed the Professor... then I went all 'Carrie' on hundreds of people... then I confessed true love to Wolverine... oh, Scott, it was awful!"

SCOTT: "There, there, Jean... it was just a dream... everything's okay..."

And there you have it, Dallas fans, the opening scene for X-Men 4. :) Plus - who shot JR? I mean Magneto? Who shot Magneto?

It's perfect!!! You managed to fix the atrocity that was X3 in 5 lines of dialogue, except for one little problem...

Jean is still supposed to be dead. That part definitely wasn't a dream. But even if Scott just had that dream, then it would help clarify things. It would also make it very interesting!!!

Suppose everything that happened in X3 Scott was dreaming about, then wakes up and realizes he's right back where he was, and he keeps getting those messages from Jean calling out to him. I think that this time around if he went to Alkali Lake he would be REALLY paranoid. Seeing Jean rise from the lake, the poor guy would be totally freaked out and paralyzed! She comes over to him and he's trembling with fear, a single touch from her finger and the guy nearly passes out begging her not to kill him and she'd be wondering what's wrong :)

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 12:53 AM
SCOTT: "There, there, Jean... it was just a dream... everything's okay..."


"Jean, it's all right. You're driven by compassion and humility. There's no way you could ever become the monster you saw in that dream."

"I know my love, it's just... it's those writers you know..."

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 12:55 AM
JEAN: "I had this terrible dream... I killed you... then I killed the Professor... then I went all 'Carrie' on hundreds of people... then I confessed true love to Wolverine... oh, Scott, it was awful!"

SCOTT: "There, there, Jean... it was just a dream... everything's okay..."


Scott: "But Jean, in that dream, the part about Wolverine... you didn't kiss him, did you?"

Jean: [bites lips]...

Scott: "You did kiss him, didn't you?"

Jean: "It was just a dream, right?"

Scott: "It may have been a dream, but I'm still gonna kill Logan for real"

:D

Cyclops
07-14-2006, 01:07 AM
I wasn't trying to bridge X2 or anything, I was just riffing off of the legendary scene from Dallas where they fixed the killing of a major character (played by Patrick Duffy) by having his girlfriend wake up find him alive in the shower and exclaim "It was all a dream!"

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 01:19 AM
I wasn't trying to bridge X2 or anything, I was just riffing off of the legendary scene from Dallas where they fixed the killing of a major character (played by Patrick Duffy) by having his girlfriend wake up find him alive in the shower and exclaim "It was all a dream!"

haha, I get it now. Still it's a brilliant, simple idea. I'd buy that!

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 01:22 AM
I wasn't trying to bridge X2 or anything, I was just riffing off of the legendary scene from Dallas where they fixed the killing of a major character (played by Patrick Duffy) by having his girlfriend wake up find him alive in the shower and exclaim "It was all a dream!"

BTW, did the Dallas production staff do that due to bad fan reaction to the char's death?

AVEITWITHJAMON
07-14-2006, 03:26 AM
After seeing this X3 I would want to know how Vaughn's movie would have been like. To see if it holds up to Singer's.

Yeah that would have been interesting, again we'll never know i guess.

Mdizzle
07-14-2006, 12:31 PM
Wouldn't it be great if...

...Angel had at least a bigger part than what he was hyped up to be?

...Beast also considered taking the cure?

...Rogue somehow absorbed Jean's power? even for a minute? hmm...

DarknessOfDeath
07-14-2006, 12:35 PM
Wasn't it vaughn's idea to have leech in a back pack and clinging to someone's back? I mean think about it, leech is like a 12 year old kid. how the hell can u put a kid a back pack. stupidest idea i've ever heard. lol. Reminds me of a rip off of Yoda on Luke's back - sort of except Yoda is tiny and can easily FIT IN A GODDAMN BACK PACK. LOL.

WorthyStevens
07-14-2006, 12:37 PM
Wasn't it vaughn's idea to have leech in a back pack and clinging to someone's back? I mean think about it, leech is like a 12 year old kid. how the hell can u put a kid a back pack. stupidest idea i've ever heard. lol. Reminds me of a rip off of Yoda on Luke's back - sort of except Yoda is tiny and can easily FIT IN A GODDAMN BACK PACK. LOL.

But he also came up with Angel's opening flashback.

DarknessOfDeath
07-14-2006, 12:39 PM
okay yeah. but still. the other idea wouldn't have worked anyway unless if Nightcrawler was in the movie, he could teleport behind Jean with leech clinging to his ...er wait nvm. Sometimes I forget that Leech cancels out nightcrawler's power. oh well.

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 02:23 PM
okay yeah. but still. the other idea wouldn't have worked anyway unless if Nightcrawler was in the movie, he could teleport behind Jean with leech clinging to his ...er wait nvm. Sometimes I forget that Leech cancels out nightcrawler's power. oh well.

Leech would come in handy later after they rescue Jean and try to teach her to control herself and cope with what happened. If ever it seemed there was a danger of her about to lose control or do something dangerous, just have Leech sit down next to her. You'd still have a pretty ticked off Jean, but at least then her main weapons would be her fingernails and teeth instead :D

On the other hand, instead of transporting Leech, NightCrawler could teleport Rogue instead. Just have her take her gloves off, roll up her sleeves, and give Jean a giant, power-sucking bearhug. Then you can bring in Leech.

:up:

La_She-Beast
07-14-2006, 02:40 PM
:confused: Then what would happen to Rogue?

Majik1387
07-14-2006, 02:42 PM
^She'd be a hero.:)

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 02:59 PM
:confused: Then what would happen to Rogue?
My dear, THAT's the part you save for X4!!!

Meanwhile, Hey eyes turn gold, she clutches her head, screams out, and with fire and energy radiating from her, she flies off leaving everyone else at Alcatraz.

Magneto is defeated, Jean is safe, the rest of the team is safe, but their problems are not over. Scott is still missing, and no one knows what happened to Rogue or where she is. After returning to Westchester, Logan packs his bag, and once again sets off on a solo journey, to find Rogue. He swore he'd protect her, and he won't change his mind now. He promises to call them, especially Bobby if he finds anything.

What happens next after this scene? Do they find Rogue? Do they find Scott? Does Jean recover? Is Magneto gone for good? What new threats and challenges await them? That's X4

ntcrawler
07-14-2006, 03:02 PM
^She'd be a hero.:)

That would certainly be a nice leap showing her character development and maturity. The team has given her so much and was happy to do it, and it would be a fitting way to pay them back. certainly beats her becoming a whiny teenager upset that she can't have sex with her BF

La_She-Beast
07-15-2006, 06:12 AM
My dear, THAT's the part you save for X4!!!

Meanwhile, Hey eyes turn gold, she clutches her head, screams out, and with fire and energy radiating from her, she flies off leaving everyone else at Alcatraz.

Magneto is defeated, Jean is safe, the rest of the team is safe, but their problems are not over. Scott is still missing, and no one knows what happened to Rogue or where she is. After returning to Westchester, Logan packs his bag, and once again sets off on a solo journey, to find Rogue. He swore he'd protect her, and he won't change his mind now. He promises to call them, especially Bobby if he finds anything.

What happens next after this scene? Do they find Rogue? Do they find Scott? Does Jean recover? Is Magneto gone for good? What new threats and challenges await them? That's X4

You better start writing a full script for it, young man:up:

ntcrawler
07-15-2006, 02:28 PM
You better start writing a full script for it, young man:up:

Are you going to help me? After all, a proper team story requires a team effort to put together. I see from your blog that you have a talent for drawing, which could come in handy :)

Hasta luego!

CapBeerCino
07-20-2006, 09:38 PM
What happens next after this scene? Do they find Rogue? Do they find Scott? Does Jean recover? Is Magneto gone for good? What new threats and challenges await them? That's X4

Made by the x-3 team it wont matter.

Statement
08-10-2006, 10:47 AM
lets get this topic back on a roll. we need more people to realise that this movie needs to be re-made with singer at the helm. if more people start to agree then something might actually be done.

The Original Bamfer
08-10-2006, 11:06 AM
lets get this topic back on a roll. we need more people to realise that this movie needs to be re-made with singer at the helm. if more people start to agree then something might actually be done.

Wrong. This movies does not need to be re-made, and nothing will happen if fan boys unite to say it does. Because it didn't satisfy your need for this film, doesn't mean it wasn't a good movie. The critics loved it. It made a lot of money. It wasn't a failure in the least.

I'm glad people like you value other members' opinions enough to say that you need more people to think this was a bad movie; as if that is the way it really is. It isn't. :down

TNC9852002
08-10-2006, 11:24 AM
Wrong. This movies does not need to be re-made, and nothing will happen if fan boys unite to say it does. Because it didn't satisfy your need for this film, doesn't mean it wasn't a good movie. The critics loved it. It made a lot of money. It wasn't a failure in the least.

I'm glad people like you value other members' opinions enough to say that you need more people to think this was a bad movie; as if that is the way it really is. It isn't. :down
:up:

-TNC

flavio_lebeau
08-10-2006, 11:24 AM
Wrong. This movies does not need to be re-made, and nothing will happen if fan boys unite to say it does. Because it didn't satisfy your need for this film, doesn't mean it wasn't a good movie. The critics loved it. It made a lot of money. It wasn't a failure in the least.

I'm glad people like you value other members' opinions enough to say that you need more people to think this was a bad movie; as if that is the way it really is. It isn't. :down
crtics loved it? :confused: Okay, Brazilian critics did, but...American ones, i thought it was VERY mixed...

x-fan
08-10-2006, 11:28 AM
while we are talking about remaking the last movie why not restart the whole friggin francise and i dont know make a real xmen movie using the characters the way the are written instead of raping them and making them all weak and useless except wolvie of course , though he was watered down pretty good also

The Original Bamfer
08-10-2006, 11:35 AM
while we are talking about remaking the last movie why not restart the whole friggin francise and i dont know make a real xmen movie using the characters the way the are written instead of raping them and making them all weak and useless except wolvie of course , though he was watered down pretty good also

None of them were weak, in the least. If anything, the movies made them into characters that are more like real people; instead of campy superheroes. In terms of powers, accusing the characters of being weak is also incorrect. Sure, Bobby could have used a better sense of humor, Cyclops could have used more screen time, Storm could have used a consistent accent, Rogue could have been a bit more sassy - but none of these make these characters worth re-doing... You can thank the X-Men Film Franchise for giving us real, human characters in the likes of these mutants.

La_She-Beast
08-10-2006, 11:42 AM
The critics loved it.

You're joking. The for/against the movie were very balanced.

Decay
08-10-2006, 11:50 AM
Well...actually most of the critics were pleased with the movie but they consider X1 and X2 to be better.

ntcrawler
08-10-2006, 01:27 PM
Like Batman said, don't let people discourage you. And most definitely, don't be intimidated by people to accept something you consider sub-par or mediocre when you and others know it could be better.

The Original Bamfer
08-10-2006, 01:30 PM
Like Batman said, don't let people discourage you. And most definitely, don't be intimidated by people to accept something you consider sub-par or mediocre when you and others know it could be better.

This wasn't my argument, just to clear this up. All I said was that people shouldn't have to "realise" this movie is bad; let people think want they want. If they don't like the movie, that's cool. But the ones that do like it shouldn't be told that they shouldn't... ya get what I'm sayin'? :p

x-fan
08-10-2006, 03:05 PM
None of them were weak, in the least. If anything, the movies made them into characters that are more like real people; instead of campy superheroes. In terms of powers, accusing the characters of being weak is also incorrect. Sure, Bobby could have used a better sense of humor, Cyclops could have used more screen time, Storm could have used a consistent accent, Rogue could have been a bit more sassy - but none of these make these characters worth re-doing... You can thank the X-Men Film Franchise for giving us real, human characters in the likes of these mutants.


no they were weak, if they fought their comicbook selves they(the movie versions) would get the butts handed to them and quick. i dont care about they had to be made more real crap, it isnt realistic to have knives coming out of ones hands or lasers out of anothers eyes. if we can disbelieve they could do it at all then why power it down to be more believable. maybe supes should have been jumping everywhere so it would be more believeable since we really cant fly lol

oh and the comics have been giving us realistic human interaction for several years thats why they have such a big following and every one moans when their favorite character dint get his just deserves

ntcrawler
08-10-2006, 03:13 PM
n giving us realistic human interaction for several years thats why they have such a big following and every one moans when their favorite character dint get his just deserves

Correct! :up: It's not their powers that make them larger than life, but their courage, hearts, and will to survive. The flaws are still there to show they're not perfect or above humanity's limitations, and to help us identify with them, since alot of their problems are still realistic and ones we can identify with. But powers and special abilities should not be ignored either. Toning things down to a manageable, realistic level is fine, but when you water it down too much, you end up with chars which are a pale shadow of their former selves. Especially when you end up with heroes who make promises they either don't intend or cannot keep. And that makes for weak storytelling.

xmenfilesfan05
08-10-2006, 06:56 PM
Wrong. This movies does not need to be re-made, and nothing will happen if fan boys unite to say it does. Because it didn't satisfy your need for this film, doesn't mean it wasn't a good movie. The critics loved it. It made a lot of money. It wasn't a failure in the least.

I'm glad people like you value other members' opinions enough to say that you need more people to think this was a bad movie; as if that is the way it really is. It isn't. :down

I think what a lot of people fail to realize as well is that just because it made a lot of money, doesn't mean it was a good film.

xmenfilesfan05
08-10-2006, 07:02 PM
And another thing about the critics loving this film, on rottentomatoes.com , which is a site that compiles reviews from many popular magazines, newspapers and so on, it recieved a 57%, which ranks as a ROTTEN film. X2 got an 87% and X1 got an 80% on the same site. But I will go on to say that critics aren't always right about movies. But my opinion is that in this case they are.

liamoversion2
08-10-2006, 11:29 PM
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liamoversion2
08-10-2006, 11:30 PM
I would definitely sleep with Bryan singer if he remade X3.

Without a second thought.

I think there are very few things I WOULDN'T DO to see his X3.

X3 was an absolute disgrace. It was offensive. I don't think it even qualifies as a legitimate film on a number of levels.

chaseter
08-10-2006, 11:59 PM
That is called an anger bang.

The Original Bamfer
08-11-2006, 12:09 AM
That is called an anger bang.

Or a desperate one...

PhoenixRisen
08-11-2006, 12:11 AM
Or a desperate one...
Or a prostitute?

liamoversion2
08-11-2006, 03:37 AM
I couldn't give a F**K what it's called. It's the truth.

AznBABYBANDIT
08-11-2006, 04:47 AM
I've been gone for 2 weeks, and this comes again... ALl remakes happens at about 10 - 20 years, time... By that time... Fox still hold rights to X-men Movies.

They have it till 2020

AznBABYBANDIT
08-11-2006, 04:47 AM
Or a prostitute?

didnt have to type that right?

PhoenixRisen
08-11-2006, 09:11 AM
didnt have to type that right?
Oh no, I didn't have to. But it's true, and the point is why would someone offer to sleep with a director to make a movie that will make them happy? Make your own movie, write some fan fiction, work on a screenplay to pitch to the studios, create some manips or just dream about what you wanted to see. It's only a movie, and you shouldn't have to rely on other people--or Hollywood--to make you happy. :D

liamoversion2
08-11-2006, 02:33 PM
Yeah you know you're right...


and I think that's one of the best things that will come from this disaster. The world is not without balance. Either a film is so good that it inspires other artists to aim as high, or a film is such a piece of s**tthat it makes people get off their couches... but that can go either way too... after X3 I was kind of apatehtic for a while.

but at this stage it would be far simpler to just sleep with Singer (were that option available), than taking potentially ten years of my life to go the other way around...

Look it's not like this opportunity is going to arise anytime soon so let's relax. Nobody is sleeping with Singer to get X-men 3 remade (but if someone were to offer...)

PhoenixRisen
08-11-2006, 03:15 PM
Yeah you know you're right...


and I think that's one of the best things that will come from this disaster. The world is not without balance. Either a film is so good that it inspires other artists to aim as high, or a film is such a piece of s**tthat it makes people get off their couches... but that can go either way too... after X3 I was kind of apatehtic for a while.

but at this stage it would be far simpler to just sleep with Singer (were that option available), than taking potentially ten years of my life to go the other way around...

Look it's not like this opportunity is going to arise anytime soon so let's relax. Nobody is sleeping with Singer to get X-men 3 remade (but if someone were to offer...)
LOL :D And it might not take 10 years if you tried...you might be surprised when you put something out there what comes back!! There's only one way to find out, by trying...Who knows, maybe you will get discovered?? Cuz I swear there is more talent and creativity in these forums than all of Hollywood combined (not to put down Hollywood but there are some talented people here, just look at the manips, avatars, etc.)! :up: