Who's Your Favorite Rock Guitarist?

[Green Lantern]

Rather than debate the best (which will have Jimi Hendrix more than likely running away) I ask who is your favorite? Choose from the poll or tell us your other choices since you can only fit 25 on there :(

My top five:

Eddie Van Halen - this guy got me to pick up a guitar. It was a dream to see him live.

Eric Clapton - There's a reason he's called GOD

John Petrucci - Amazingly technical, brilliant musician

Hughie Thomasson - The Outlaws/Lynyrd Skynyrd so underrated it hurts.

Allen Collins - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Guy writes one of the most praised solos of all time but never gets the recognition...

And yes, I know the threads been done before, but I don't want just another "Lol of curs Jimi he cAn plAy wit t33th loz" thread.

[Cyclops]

Joe Perry. C'mon and preach it, Truthteller.

[reggiebar]

Jimmy Page is my personal favorite of all time and I would also consider himone of the all time greats.

I am also a huge fan of The Edge (he is not in the best ever arguement like Page, simply one of my favorites).

[Mr. Walters]

Eddie Van Halen.

[Motown Marvel]

in no particular order....danny methric, jack white, jimmy page, pete townshend.

[Tsunulia]

Joe Perry. C'mon and preach it, Truthteller.

Joe so pwnz :up: And he's got hot sauce :D but I gotta give props to Eddie too :up: It's all good :D

[thedeadite]

for solo guitar players i've always loved listening to steve vai and joe satriani...unbelievable, imo...i could only wish to play like that

[Green Lantern]

F**k I forgot Townshend god f**king dammit :(

[Cyclops]

Miami Steve Van Zandt of the E-Street Band is very disappointed that you didn't include him. And now he's going to whack you.

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[Green Lantern]

... gulp :eek:

[tzarinna]

Pete Townsend,Hendrix,Santriani,Page,Eddie,Chuck Berry,Santana and Vai

[Green Lantern]

Joe Perry. C'mon and preach it, Truthteller.Ya know it still amazes me that I've been compared favorably with early Joe. I wish I was that good.

[Drakon]

You lose. No Maelsteen? :down

And I picked Hammett. Not because he's good, but because he's been into it for a long time, and goes back and goes to school to learn more.

[Cyclops]

Wait. You also left off Carlos Santana? Holy ****.

[Green Lantern]

:( I picked 24 of my favorites and left the other up their :( My bad :(

[ВÕВВŸ_||_Ď®@ķĔ]

Ppl All Hear is AC/DC ON The Radio Sure I Can Pick Five More ppl but the the band i hear the most is AC/DC
thurr's better but they still good

[Drakon]

Wow. Your account's never getting hacked.

[ВÕВВŸ_||_Ď®@ķĔ]

Hendrixx Was Like God ,Clapton Wass Godd,One Day When The Apocalypse Coems Hedrix And Clapton Are Gonna Make Teh Craziest Beat ever And Then All Hell Will FReeze over

[Cyclops]

Um........ reply hazy. Ask again.

[ВÕВВŸ_||_Ď®@ķĔ]

Has N E 1 seen the show on that cheap cartoon station teletoon it' like a cheap version of the MArvel Character's But They Have Teh Gayest Powers
the one guy is like a stupid version the hulk

[Cyclops]

Okay, how much are we betting that this guy's a previously banned user re-registered for the sole purpose of being an annoying jackass?

Put your wagers in the kitty, folks.

[Tsunulia]

The kitty's too lazy to take in bets.
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[Green Lantern]

[Dr. Evil] One BILLION dollars[/Dr. Evil]

[logansoldcigar]

I would go with Joe Perry and Slash. aint the greatest players on the planet, but they both have a certain groove about them

[Webley]

Poison Ivy from The Cramps
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[SLVRSR4]

:up: George Harrison!:)

[britrogue]

Dave Grohl

[The Chairman]

Page (my vote)
Townshend
Clapton
Hendrix
Richards
May

[Truthteller]

Joe Perry. C'mon and preach it, Truthteller.Oh yes!

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Joe so pwnz :up: And he's got hot sauce :D...Thats right! :)

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[Truthteller]

Gotta go with Joe Freakin' Perry!

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[Wilhelm-Scream]

There can be only one.


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[sinewave]

http://emol.org/nevada/images/tinytim.jpg

[Leto Atrides]

Herman Li and Sam Totman, as a team. Guitarists for DragonForce. Completely ridiculous players. They recieve alot of criticism, not because of any lack of skill or anything, but "Just because you can do that with a guitar, doesn't mean you should." Personally, I love it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/hampshire/content/images/2005/09/27/dragonforce_live_203_203x152.jpg

Solos/Duet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs

[terry78]

Leaving out Kravitz? That's some bull**** right there. :mad:

[The Chairman]

There can be only one.


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Without a doubt.

[The Chairman]

Leaving out Kravitz? That's some bull**** right there. :mad:

Not really. Kravitz is a great songwriter and has some really good songs, but he's not all that great of a guitarist, certainly not on level with a lot of people on that poll.

[Tsunulia]

http://emol.org/nevada/images/tinytim.jpg


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JLBats]

Went with Harrison. Best on the list? Not by a long shot. But I love his stuff, and that backwards guitar part in "I'm Only Sleeping" was wicked.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Leaving out Kravitz? That's some bull**** right there. :mad:
cism

[Leto Atrides]

cism

Green Lantern doesn't care about black people.

[terry78]

^I'm telling you. And Hendrix is just up there on name recognition. We're gonna have to march.

[The Chairman]

^I'm telling you. And Hendrix is just up there on name recognition. We're gonna have to march.

He's up there because he is generally regarded as the best. Hendrix is worlds above Kravitz, that's for sure.

It's not a race matter, it's about who out of rock's most prominent guitarists is the best. Hendrix is simply the only African American guitarist who has scored a highly prominent place in the rock elite. That's why he was on the poll.

Kravitz has his own little niche, but not as a guitarist.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Leaving out Kravitz? That's some bull**** right there. :mad:Check my Drunken Thread (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176206)

[Addendum]

Clapton
Page

Both are #1

Gilmour is genius
Hendrix was brilliant
Iommi invented every heavy riff
Petrucci is amazing
Vai is Vai. Damn good stuff

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Green Lantern doesn't care about black people.http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/MM.jpg

[jaguarr]

Hendrix is simply the only African American guitarist who has scored a highly prominent place in the rock elite. That's why he was on the poll.

Vernon Reid, Dr. Know, Stanley Jordan, Chuck Berry and Albert King say "Hello". :)

jag

[JLBats]

Vernon Reid, Dr. Know, Stanley Jordan, Chuck Berry and Albert King say "Hello". :)

jag

Robert Johnson is spinning in his grave:(

[Sarge 2.0]

I was about to bring up Vernon Reid...and Prince, to some extent as well.

And for future reference to whoever made this poll, it's Zakk Wylde.

[jaguarr]

Robert Johnson is spinning in his grave:(

So are Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters and John Lee Hooker for that matter. Buddy Guy, Bo Diddley and B.B. King would be too if they were dead. The influence those musicians had on rock and roll was HUGE.

jag

[DBella]

Why am I not surprised that Page is in the lead?

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Man, I saw Prince on SNL a few months ago and his soloing exploded my mind.
I wish he'd just do some Rock songs. It was really some of the best electric guitar I've ever heard, right up there with Eddie and Steve Vai and Jimi Hendrix.:eek:

[DBella]

Vicki Peterson

[jaguarr]

Man, I saw Prince on SNL a few months ago and his soloing exploded my mind.
I wish he'd just do some Rock songs. It was really some of the best electric guitar I've ever heard, right up there with Eddie and Steve Vai and Jimi Hendrix.:eek:

Yeah, he's always been a very gifted guitarist. He's known to do some really impressive **** with his talent in a live setting, but a lot of his music focuses on the songwriting elements and kind of downplays his abilities on that instrument for some reason.

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yeah, he's always been a very gifted guitarist. He's known to do some really impressive **** with his talent in a live setting, but a lot of his music focuses on the songwriting elements and kind of downplays his abilities on that instrument for some reason.

jagWell from what I saw that night, maybe he's trying to protect the world, like Blackbolt not speaking.
It is super-rare that I'm ever jealous of a guitarist, but he was doing stuff that made me think to myself, "What are you doing, you HACK!"

[Sarge 2.0]

I saw Prince do a Beatles cover with a bunch of other guys (It may have been While My Guitar Gently Weeps, but I'm not sure), and he was basically tearing it up when ever he felt like it, while the others looked like children with toy instruments by comparison. It was wicked.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Vicki PetersonIf she wrote that "duddley dunt dunt, du-duddley dunt, duddley dunt dant dunt" part in Walk Like An Egyptian then I like her ('cause it sounded like Jimmy Page).

[Mr. Thing]

Jack White, Pete Townshend and yeah, I agree with Prince. He is awesome at the guitar, he should really show it a lot more.

[jaguarr]

If you think Prince is impressive, listen to some of Vernon Reid's work, either his solo stuff or his work with Living Colour. The guy has some serious chops.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

I rock out to Living Colour on a practically daily basis. :up:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

If you think Prince is impressive, listen to some of Vernon Reid's work, either his solo stuff or his work with Living Colour. The guy has some serious chops.

jagHe's got a weird style. I don't like his tone, but he's good. I just like Cult of Personality.

[Carter]

You know, as much as I hate Limp Bizkit and Fred Durst I always thought Wes Borland was highly talented and had a cool gimmick going.

[jaguarr]

He's got a weird style. I don't like his tone, but he's good. I just like Cult of Personality.

He's got a really heavy jazz & fusion background, so his playing is a bit unconventional I'll agree. Check out "Elvis Is Dead". Awesome song. They also do a great cover of Bad Brain's "Sailing Ships".

jag

[The FallenAngel]

Page gets my vote. :up:

[Denny67]

Adam Jones - Tool

[Green Lantern]

Not really. Kravitz is a great songwriter and has some really good songs, but he's not all that great of a guitarist, certainly not on level with a lot of people on that poll.Yeah, itd be like putting Cobain on the poll. Great songwriter, not that great of a guitarist.

Robert Johnson is spinning in his grave:(

ROCK guitarist. ROCK not BLUES. If it were who is the best BLUES guitarist, the poll would be littered with African American guitarists: Muddy, Robert, Howlin, Skip, Son, and B.B. to name but a few. All of those men were/are immensely talented musicians, but they don't fit in a poll about ROCK guitarists. Did they influence rock? Absolutely. Are they rock? No. They are the blues.

[Snipershot]

i love dimebag, and i love synyster gates from avenged sevenfold

[Sarge 2.0]

i love dimebag, and i love synyster gates from avenged sevenfoldThat's the dude's stage name?

...

Bwahahahahahaha. :down

[Snipershot]

he is SICK!

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh yeah. He sounds H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. :rolleyes:

[Snipershot]

well, he is an amazing guitarist...

[jaguarr]

well, he is an amazing guitarist...

He's a decent player, but I wouldn't call him amazing. He certainly doesn't have the chops of the musical giants listed in this thread, but compared to many of his contemporaries he's a freakin' guitar genius (which speaks volumes about the state of music today). I do think guys like him will start to usher in a new era of people who really learn to play the guitar and eventually take it to new heights once again, though.

jag

[jaguarr]

That's the dude's stage name?

...

Bwahahahahahaha. :down

Everyone in that band has a stage name that's intended to sound a bit sinister.

jag

[Mr. Thing]

he is SICK!

You know, I really hate this expression, I don't get it.

[KniteYxSpydeY]

prince, clapton, b.b. king

[Dwarf lord]

I'm sort of upset Pete Townshend isn't up there. If he's not a great guitarist, I don't know who is...

[Mr. Thing]

I'm sort of upset Pete Townshend isn't up there. If he's not a great guitarist, I don't know who is...

Indeed. I just seen the Who live on Saturday and he was great.

[The Chairman]

I'm sort of upset Pete Townshend isn't up there. If he's not a great guitarist, I don't know who is...

Me too. Pete is second to Jimmy as my favorite guitarist.

[Dwarf lord]

I'm also a fan of that guitarist for the Doors. His name's not coming to me right now, but in my opinion, he's one of the most underrated guitarists of all time.

[The Chairman]

I'm also a fan of that guitarist for the Doors. His name's not coming to me right now, but in my opinion, he's one of the most underrated guitarists of all time.

I think you're thinking of Robbie Krieger.

[Dwarf lord]

Yep. He's the one. His solo was awesome in Back Door Man. Totally underrated.

[The Chairman]

Yep. He's the one. His solo was awesome in Back Door Man. Totally underrated.

I agree. He's definitely one of the most underrated musicians in Rock & Roll history.

[Dwarf lord]

Same with Luther Perkins. He probably had no talents as a singer or lyricist, but he could sure play guitar. His style wasn't as frilly as people like Jimi Hendrix, but he got the job done and wrote some of the most memorable guitar parts in music history. I mean who doesn't know the opening to I Walk the Line or Folsom Prison Blues?

[The Chairman]

Same with Luther Perkins. He probably had no talents as a singer or lyricist, but he could sure play guitar. His style wasn't as frilly as people like Jimi Hendrix, but he got the job done and wrote some of the most memorable guitar parts in music history. I mean who doesn't know the opening to I Walk the Line or Folsom Prison Blues?

I'm not all too familaiar with Johnny Cash yet (I've been meaning to get into him), but I love what I've heard from him. And from what I've heard, Perkins was a great guitarist.

[Cyclops]

I saw Prince do a Beatles cover with a bunch of other guys (It may have been While My Guitar Gently Weeps, but I'm not sure), and he was basically tearing it up when ever he felt like it, while the others looked like children with toy instruments by comparison. It was wicked.

Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne at the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremonies, in honor of George's posthumous induction. :) It was an odd choice, as you've got two of the three remaining Traveling Wilburys... and Prince, which is a very divergent group there, but it really worked out.

[jaguarr]

Same with Luther Perkins. He probably had no talents as a singer or lyricist, but he could sure play guitar. His style wasn't as frilly as people like Jimi Hendrix, but he got the job done and wrote some of the most memorable guitar parts in music history. I mean who doesn't know the opening to I Walk the Line or Folsom Prison Blues?

Add Chet Atkins to that list, then. That man did ungodly things with a guitar.

jag

[Dwarf lord]

I'm not all too familaiar with Johnny Cash yet (I've been meaning to get into him), but I love what I've heard from him. And from what I've heard, Perkins was a great guitarist.

I'm supprised you're not already into Johnny Cash, seeing as you're one of the biggest fans and authorities of classic rock I've ever met.

[BatMatt]

Robby Krieger of The Doors/The Doors of the 21st Century

I moderate his forum :up:

[The Chairman]

I'm supprised you're not already into Johnny Cash, seeing as you're one of the biggest fans and authorities of classic rock I've ever met.


Cash and Nick Cave are at the top of my "must get into list". There's so much great classic rock out there.

[Sarge 2.0]

I don't think Cave really classifies as classic rock. That era passed him by. He's more of a singer/songwriter in the vein of Tom Waits.

[jaguarr]

I don't think Cave really classifies as classic rock. That era passed him by. He's more of a singer/songwriter in the vein of Tom Waits.

I'd agree with that assessment.

jag

[The Chairman]

I don't think Cave really classifies as classic rock. That era passed him by. He's more of a singer/songwriter in the vein of Tom Waits.

Tom Waits is another one I've been meaning to get into.

Whatever Cave is considered, I'm impressed by what I've heard from him.

[ookami]

Joe Perry
&
Slash

hell any guy that play a guitar like that is always good in my book, just gets me hot.

[Green Lantern]

Joe Perry
&
Slash

hell any guy that play a guitar like that is always good in my book, just gets me hot.O.O....

[Shuley]

Ya know, I know he's not considered the best guitarist around,but I really think he's quite underrated...Bruce Springsteen...his solo's are awesome!

[U.S War Machine]

I have some others on my mind

[DBella]

I would like to add two other usual suspects that are not on the list or who may have not been mentioned yet in posts:

Carlos Santana
BB King

[The Chairman]

They've been mentioned, and they do belong on the poll.

[Green Lantern]

BB doesn't as I explained earlier. ROCK not BLUES...

[DBella]

They've been mentioned, and they do belong on the poll.
I guess they would go under "others". How disrespectful. :(

[DBella]

BB doesn't as I explained earlier. ROCK not BLUES...
Gotcha! :up:
How about Santana?

Or Scott Ian (Anthrax) and Yngwie Malmstein?

[JLBats]

Miles Davis!

[DBella]

Miles Davis!
Not Rock.

[Mr Sparkle]

My favorite Rock guitarist is Kevin Shields.

He is not on that list, hence , that list os of the devil.
see I never get these threads, they have all these guys from the 60's and 70's and every once in a while they'll throw in slash from guns and roses?

WTF? people :confused: and Neil Young? I use to cinfuse him with neil diamond when I was little and ALways wondered why he was so much better when he sang that coming to America song.

I closing

LIST= Devil

that is all.

[JLBats]

Not Rock.

Not a guitarist either:D

[DBella]

Not a guitarist either:D
Exactly. ;) There need to be a Best Trumpeter thread. :o
Do you have his Kind of Blue album?

[DBella]

Double post

[JLBats]

Exactly. ;) There need to be a Best Trumpeter thread. :o
Do you have his Kind of Blue album?

I'm a huge jazz fan, so I have pretty much everything he put out.

[DBella]

I'm a huge jazz fan, so I have pretty much everything he put out.
You have very good taste in music. I approve. :up: :)

[The Chairman]

I have nothing by Miles Davis.

I am ashamed. :(

[JLBats]

I have nothing by Miles Davis.

I am ashamed. :(

*****es Brew is good for rock fans.

It's kind of like a really messed up Hendrix with trumpets.

Edit: What the hell, they censor ***** now?

[The Chairman]

*****es Brew is good for rock fans.

It's kind of like a really messed up Hendrix with trumpets.

Edit: What the hell, they censor ***** now?

They always have as far as I can remember.

I've heard some of *****es Brew as well as Kind Of Blue, and they were both ****ing awesome. Once I'm able to drag myself out of my classic rock phase (which probably will eventually happen soon), I'll pick up some of his stuff.

Oh, while I like Miles a lot, Louis Armstrong was even better.

[Mr Sparkle]

They always have as far as I can remember.

I've heard some of *****es Brew as well as Kind Of Blue, and they were both ****ing awesome. Once I'm able to drag myself out of my classic rock phase (which probably will eventually happen soon), I'll pick up some of his stuff.

Oh, while I like Miles a lot, Louis Armstrong was even better.

I believe that should buy MIles IN the Sky before *****es Brew, it's not as experimental.
and Ornette Coleman's "friends and Neighbours"is also a good Jazz Record for Rock fans.

[Kurosawa]

Stevie Ray Vaughan, Steve Howe, Pete Townshend, Jimmy Page, Randy Rhodes and Ritchie Blackmore are among my favorite guitar players.

I'm also a big fan of Robert Fripp.

So many greats out there....

[The Chairman]

I believe that should buy MIles IN the Sky before *****es Brew, it's not as experimental.
and Ornette Coleman's "friends and Neighbours"is also a good Jazz Record for Rock fans.

Thanks, I'll check 'em out sooner or later.

[Green Lantern]

My favorite Rock guitarist is Kevin Shields.

He is not on that list, hence , that list os of the devil.
see I never get these threads, they have all these guys from the 60's and 70's and every once in a while they'll throw in slash from guns and roses?

WTF? people :confused: and Neil Young? I use to cinfuse him with neil diamond when I was little and ALways wondered why he was so much better when he sang that coming to America song.

I closing

LIST= Devil

that is all.First off "why are all these guys from the 60s and 70s?" John Petrucci - Dream Theater mainly 90s-00s; Jasin Todd - Shinedown 00s; Kirk Hammett 80s-00s; Dimebag 90s-00s (:(); Randy Rhodes 80s; Zakk Wylde 90s-00s; Jerry Cantrell 90s. If you're gonna criticize a list for being too inclusive of one era be sure that you're right in your accusation. Also for the most part, in the nineties thanks to rap metal and bubble gum punk, the guitar solo went the way of the dinosaurs. It's just now starting to return to songs. The solo is what makes a good guitarist great, which is why most lists of the greats ARE specific to 60s-80s.

Second: You're just plain and simple naive if you think that Neil Young is not a great guitarist. Cortez the Killer and Cinnamon Girl are great songs with blazing solos.
Gotcha! :up:
How about Santana?

Or Scott Ian (Anthrax) and Yngwie Malmstein?As I said before, you can only put 25 options in a poll; so sadly some greats are left out. I put in some of my favorites; mainly to get people to give their music a try. Everyone's heard of Santana; how many people know Hughie Thomasson?:(

[Sarge 2.0]

Gotcha! :up:
How about Santana?

Or Scott Ian (Anthrax) and Yngwie Malmstein?Points for Scott Ian.

And I guess Yngwie too, 'cause he's influential.

But I would hardly call him anything great. Just my opinion though.

[jaguarr]

When Ynwgwie first hit the scene, he was something special because he brought a style and approach to playing that no one else was really doing. Consequently, he got copied and emulated nearly to death by so many other players that he almost seems passe' today. Plus, the guys' a huge a-hole, so it's difficult to feel sorry for him and the marginalization of his career due to so many other players picking up what he started and taking it to the next level.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

To me, Yngwie and other guys like him seem incredibly self indulgent, not only in their style, but in their attitude. I still won't take away anything from Malmsteen as a guitar player, as his technical skill and influence is undeniable.

I just can't bear to listen to his music.

[Ongie]

Jimi is my favorite rock guitarist.
Simply because he was a southpaw... lit his guitar on fire... and could create the most beautiful riffs imaginable while loaded up with heroin.

[jaguarr]

To me, Yngwie and other guys like him seem incredibly self indulgent, not only in their style, but in their attitude. I still won't take away anything from Malmsteen as a guitar player, as his technical skill and influence is undeniable.

I just can't bear to listen to his music.

You won't get much argument from me. There's a certain lack of soul in that kind of technically oriented playing to my ears, but I'm a blues guy and like to feel the music deep down. But, being a musician, I also can appreciate the discipline and ability it takes to play that way. I like some of his earlier stuff because it had a lot of classical elements woven into what he was doing. And he's done some work with Joe Lynn Turner on the "Odyssey" album that is still one of my favorite rock albums to this day. Turner brought a more soulful sensibility to the songwriting process and managed to make Yngwie's masturbatory playing be more relevant by forcing him to use it in a more appropriate way that complimented Turner's singing rather than ran over the top of it like Yngwie has a tendency to do to most singers.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

You won't get much argument from me. There's a certain lack of soul in that kind of technically oriented playing to my ears, but I'm a blues guy and like to feel the music deep down. But, being a musician, I also can appreciate the discipline and ability it takes to play that way. I like some of his earlier stuff because it had a lot of classical elements woven into what he was doing. And he's done some work with Joe Lynn Turner on the "Odyssey" album that is still one of my favorite rock albums to this day. Turner brought a more soulful sensibility to the songwriting process and managed to make Yngwie's masturbatory playing be more relevant by forcing him to use it in a more appropriate way that complimented Turner's singing rather than ran over the top of it like Yngwie has a tendency to do to most singers.

jagInteresting. Although, there are some players with a style similar to Malmsteens that I love, but it's because they're not so "Look at me!". In fact, John Pertucci is in my top five.

[Ongie]

Petrucci, to me, is a perfect mix of techical skill and emotional underpinning.

I actually feel moved by Petrucci's work... moreso than many other 'guitar gurus'.

Music will always be about feelings... Otherwise it's just a glorified finger exercise.

[jaguarr]

Music will always be about feelings... Otherwise it's just a glorified finger exercise.

This is why I like guys like Paul Gilbert and Vinnie Moore who bring a bit more soul to their playing than Yngwie does when left to his own devices.

jag

[Mr Sparkle]

First off "why are all these guys from the 60s and 70s?" John Petrucci - Dream Theater mainly 90s-00s; Jasin Todd - Shinedown 00s; Kirk Hammett 80s-00s; Dimebag 90s-00s (:(); Randy Rhodes 80s; Zakk Wylde 90s-00s; Jerry Cantrell 90s. If you're gonna criticize a list for being too inclusive of one era be sure that you're right in your accusation. Also for the most part, in the nineties thanks to rap metal and bubble gum punk, the guitar solo went the way of the dinosaurs. It's just now starting to return to songs. The solo is what makes a good guitarist great, which is why most lists of the greats ARE specific to 60s-80s.

Second: You're just plain and simple naive if you think that Neil Young is not a great guitarist. Cortez the Killer and Cinnamon Girl are great songs with blazing solos.
As I said before, you can only put 25 options in a poll; so sadly some greats are left out. I put in some of my favorites; mainly to get people to give their music a try. Everyone's heard of Santana; how many people know Hughie Thomasson?:(

actually, Slash was a mere linchpin to my argument. because I know alice in chains is from the 90's don't be so humorless about the things you like.
that being said, Joe Satriani and steve Vai are from the 80's and 90's and they are not there, and they are technically superior to most of your choices.
but then, like I said, i was merely making a point through the means of a joke, don't take it so seriously man.

and Diamond > Young.

hot summer night for lif3 *****!

[THWIP*]

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/rnrdist_1906_21412439


NOBODY PLAYS THE ROCK GUITAR LIKE DINO. :o:up:

[Kmack]

Hendrix

[JackSkellington]

Brian May is the reason I love rock music & why I'm learning to play the guitar myself. I grew up listening to Queen (thanks dad :up: ) & was lucky enough to see them live lasy year. It was worth the entrance fee for Brain alone. He is a guitar GOD imo.

[LexCorp]

Slash

[Green Lantern]

actually, Slash was a mere linchpin to my argument. because I know alice in chains is from the 90's don't be so humorless about the things you like.
that being said, Joe Satriani and steve Vai are from the 80's and 90's and they are not there, and they are technically superior to most of your choices.
but then, like I said, i was merely making a point through the means of a joke, don't take it so seriously man.

and Diamond > Young.

hot summer night for lif3 *****!Hey smart guy, Satriani is up there. Right between Keith Richards and Slash, because the list is in *gasp* alphabetical order. Again great job of researching before commenting. The fact that Slash was a linchpin, matters not, because your argument had no validity because nearly half of the options on my poll were biggest in the 80s or later (11 out of 24) And Diamond has NOTHING on Young.

[Mr Sparkle]

Hey smart guy, Satriani is up there. Right between Keith Richards and Slash, because the list is in *gasp* alphabetical order. Again great job of researching before commenting. The fact that Slash was a linchpin, matters not, because your argument had no validity because nearly half of the options on my poll were biggest in the 80s or later (11 out of 24) And Diamond has NOTHING on Young.

no Vai, sorry, and the linchpin matter, quite a lot.
my argument might have no validity to you because you're a humorless *******.:(:down

Diamond has all on Young sorry

Diamond >>>>>>> Young.

in fact, if Diamond fought Young he would would win, and leave Young in a pool of blood and sequin.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

He rules with a manly hand!!!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/NeilDIamond.jpg

[jaguarr]

Damn, you guys argue about some stupid ****, sometimes. :)

jag

[Mr Sparkle]

that cuz we're stupid :(
(besides it was just a joke)

[Mr Sparkle]

He rules with a manly hand!!!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/NeilDIamond.jpg


heil Diamond!

heil!

[Wilhelm-Scream]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/Cosby-Kids-01.jpg

"A joke.....isn't a joke, if it Hurts some-one."

[jaguarr]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/Cosby-Kids-01.jpg

"A joke.....isn't a joke, if it Hurts some-one."

HEYHEYHEEEYYYYY!!!!

jag

[Green Lantern]

no Vai, sorry, and the linchpin matter, quite a lot.
my argument might have no validity to you because you're a humorless *******.:(:down

Diamond has all on Young sorry

Diamond >>>>>>> Young.

in fact, if Diamond fought Young he would would win, and leave Young in a pool of blood and sequin.I'm any thing but humorless, I just don't laugh at things that aren't funny. Like you coming into a thread to make claims that don't make sense. Like saying that its mostly 60s and 70s artists.

Blackmore - 70s
Cantrell - 90s
Clapton - 70s - 00s
Collins -70s
Dimebag - 90s
Gilmour - 70s
Hammett - 80s -00s
Harrison - 60s-80s
Hendrix - 60s
May - 70s and his biggest stuff came in the 80s
Page - 70s
Perry - 70s - 00s
Petrucci - 90s - 00s
Rhodes - 80s
Richards - 60s - 00s
Satriani - 80s - 00s
Slash - 80s - 00s
Thomasson - 70s - 00s
Todd - 00s
Van Halen - mainly 80s and 90s
Vaughan - 80s
Wylde - 90s -00s
A. Young - biggest came in the 80s
N. Young - 60s-00s

Out of the artists on my lists only nine don't still perform and record on a regular basis. Out of those nine. SEVEN are DEAD. They may have been bigggest in one era, but they still transcend eras and still make music that the majority enjoy. Call me humorless if you will, but YOU were the one that came in here just to start arguments. When I made valid points YOU were the one that threw something back at me that was also invalid (Lol no Satriani or Vai list sux proves my point lol) and then when I pointed out that Satch was up there you still got on me about the lack of Vai. So what? Vai never did much for me. His mentor is much better and more talented than he ever will be, and I could (I'll say this again) only fit TWENTY FIVE options on the poll. I'm sorry, I couldn't put the hundreds of people to ever get good on the instrument on the poll, so yes I picked and chose personal favorites.

[snipe]

Jimmy Page. Listen to Presence. The end :up:

I'm also pleasantly surprised at the amount of talkback Prince is getting. He's probably the most underrated guitarist recording, and the only true musical genius of our time.

[theoneandonly]

joshua homme

dave grohl

:up:

[snipe]

As for Slash, hmmm....
I couldn't vote for him with a straight face. Izzy was the heart and soul of GNR and a much better guitar player IMO.

[Mr Sparkle]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/Cosby-Kids-01.jpg

"A joke.....isn't a joke, if it Hurts some-one."

:( I'm so ashamed, sorry Albert *eats Jello pudding*

[Mr Sparkle]

rabble, rabble, rabble!!!!!!
gahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
http://www.unfiction.com/%7Etienle/tv/3.05%20Russian%20Roulette.jpg

[Wilhelm-Scream]

and the only true musical genius of our time.erm...absurd, lol.

[Green Lantern]

Jimmy Page. Listen to Presence. The end :up:

I'm also pleasantly surprised at the amount of talkback Prince is getting. He's probably the most underrated guitarist recording, and the only true musical genius of our time.Snipe... IN COMMUNITY!?!? That hasn't happened in forever :eek:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

As for Slash, hmmm....
I couldn't vote for him with a straight face. Izzy was the heart and soul of GNR and a much better guitar player IMO.Yes, Slash sucks. He's got the most brittle "13 year old who got a Epiphone and a practice amp for Christmas" tone, his solos ruin my day, and he wrote hands-down one of the...well, before the enlightment it would've been called "gheyest", but that would be wrong to say,...so, mmmm....lamest, pansy-ass, musical mobile you hang over your baby's crib - riff on Earth, the cursed begining of "Sweet Child O' Mine"!
:mad:

[snipe]

Snipe... IN COMMUNITY!?!? That hasn't happened in forever :eek:

Very few threads here interest me :(

[snipe]

[...] lamest, pansy-ass, musical mobile you hang over your baby's crib - riff on Earth, the cursed begining of "Sweet Child O' Mine"!
:mad:

But it's got killer rhythm :up:
Sorry, I'm a huge Izzy fan. Named my damn cat after him.

[jaguarr]

Yes, Slash sucks. He's got the most brittle "13 year old who got a Epiphone and a practice amp for Christmas" tone, his solos ruin my day, and he wrote hands-down one of the...well, before the enlightment it would've been called "gheyest", but that would be wrong to say,...so, mmmm....lamest, pansy-ass, musical mobile you hang over your baby's crib - riff on Earth, the cursed begining of "Sweet Child O' Mine"!
:mad:

I tend to agree with you on this. I don't think he can even play that riff without an echo-delay pedal, either.

jag

[Mr Sparkle]

Yes, Slash sucks. He's got the most brittle "13 year old who got a Epiphone and a practice amp for Christmas" tone, his solos ruin my day, and he wrote hands-down one of the...well, before the enlightment it would've been called "gheyest", but that would be wrong to say,...so, mmmm....lamest, pansy-ass, musical mobile you hang over your baby's crib - riff on Earth, the cursed begining of "Sweet Child O' Mine"!
:mad:

ahahahahahaha!:up::)
yeah, I never got why people dig slash so muc, must the character and not the music.
hell, Bonnie Rait is great guitarist, yet you don't see her mentioned here because she's not Bad-ass (not that she's legendary, I'm just saying is all)

[jaguarr]

But it's got killer rhythm :up:
Sorry, I'm a huge Izzy fan. Named my damn cat after him.

The Ju-Ju Hounds were infinitely more musically interesting than GNR (and I do like GNR's "Appetite Destruction" for the most part, excluding "Sweet Child O' Mine".

jag

[jaguarr]

ahahahahahaha!:up::)
yeah, I never got why people dig slash so muc, must the character and not the music.
hell, Bonnie Rait is great guitarist, yet you don't see her mentioned here because she's not Bad-ass (not that she's legendary, I'm just saying is all)

Bonnie Raitt plays the F**K out of a slide. :up:

jag

[The Chairman]

Slash ****ing rocks. GNR were easily the best rock band of the 1980s', along with Def Leppard

Which reminds me, where's Steve Clarke on this poll. I defy anyone to litsten to "Armageddon It" and not be blown away by the sheer genius of the solo he perorms on that song. It's mindblowing.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Slash does this thing that bugs the hell out of me where he's playing a run that really needs to have every note individually picked, but, durh, that would be,...like, difficult and stuff...so he just hammers on with his left hand for every note, which gives you a real...it's just embarrassing.:mad:

This "technique" is showcased in Paradise City at the end.:barf:

What he does best is pose with a bottle of Jack in his hand.

[snipe]

erm...absurd, lol.

Care to elaborate?
Asside from horns, he plays (or has played) every instrument on his albums. He writes all his music. His vocal range is astounding. He's done everything from gospel to raunchy.
Asside from Bowie, he's probably the most innovative artist in the last 30 years.

[snipe]

The Ju-Ju Hounds were infinitely more musically interesting than GNR (and I do like GNR's "Appetite Destruction" for the most part, excluding "Sweet Child O' Mine".

jag

You should check out the rest of his solo stuff. Most of it is pretty hard to find (lately, he's only been issuing albums in Japan or on his own). They're definitely worth the time you'll spend tracking them down.

[jaguarr]

Slash ****ing rocks. GNR were easily the best rock band of the 1980s', along with Def Leppard

Which reminds me, where's Steve Clarke on this poll. I defy anyone to litsten to "Armageddon It" and not be blown away by the sheer genius of the solo he perorms on that song. It's mindblowing.

Frank Hannon and Tommy Skeoch say "hi". :)

jag

[Mr Sparkle]

Care to elaborate?
Asside from horns, he plays (or has played) every instrument on his albums. He writes all his music. His vocal range is astounding. He's done everything from gospel to raunchy.
Asside from Bowie, he's probably the most innovative artist in the last 30 years.

hmmm, I know the question wasn't for me, but "innovative" to me, at least doesn't describe Bowie. he is just, cool, but he wasn't doing anythign mindblowing (T rex anyone?) I mean, sometimes we tend to like things and think they are the awesomest ever.

I like the modern lovers, a lot, that doesn't mean that they weren't ripping off the Velvet Underground.

[jaguarr]

One name I haven't seen mentioned in this thread at all is Michael Schenker. :up:

jag

[The Chairman]

Slash does this thing that bugs the hell out of me where he's playing a run that really needs to have every note individually picked, but, durh, that would be,...like, difficult and stuff...so he just hammers on with his left hand for every note, which gives you a real...it's just embarrassing.:mad:

This "technique" is showcased in Paradise City at the end.:barf:

What he does best is pose with a bottle of Jack in his hand.

The ending of "Paradise City" kicks ass IMP.

But to each his own, I guess.

One thing is certain about GNR: Axl is a douchebag.

But back on topic.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Care to elaborate?Sure, to say that Prince is the ONLY musical genius of our time is absurd.

[Green Lantern]

Very few threads here interest me :(Glad I made one that did :o

[The Chairman]

Frank Hannon and Tommy Skeoch say "hi". :)

jag

Who?

[jaguarr]

Who?

Never heard of Tesla?

jag

[The Chairman]

Never heard of Tesla?

jag

I've heard of them, but never heard of any their stuff.

They'll go on my list of artists I have to get into sooner or later

[Mr Sparkle]

Never heard of Tesla?

jag

I've heard of a Tesla coil.
http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00004/Coffee_and_Cigarettes_4121b.jpg

[Wilhelm-Scream]

One thing is certain about GNR: Axl is a douchebag.At least the whole world can unite over this fact.
The U.N. took a vote and the Arabs were hugging the Jews, it was unanimous, the chanting began "Axl is a DOUCHEBAG! Axl is a DOUCHEBAG!"

[snipe]

hmmm, I know the question wasn't for me, but "innovative" to me, at least doesn't describe Bowie. he is just, cool, but he wasn't doing anythign mindblowing

Bowie not innovative? Wow. I know this is for another thread, but he was doing *everything* before anyone else was. You name it, he did it first.
Except that little fad in the late 80s where every song had a little rap interlude in it. He can't be blamed for that :o

[jaguarr]

I've heard of them, but never heard of any their stuff.

They'll go on my list of artists I have to get into sooner or later

I think you'll enjoy them. It's interesting to listen to their early stuff (which really holds up well, even today) and then their later stuff (they released an album last year, actually) and hear the progression. Skeoch and Hannon are very gifted guitarists and they often get overlooked but there are few guitarists from the 80's hair-band scene that had their chops. They wrote some fantastic riffs, too.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

At least the whole world can unite over this fact.
The U.N. took a vote and the Arabs were hugging the Jews, it was unanimous, the chanting began "Axl is a DOUCHEBAG! Axl is a DOUCHEBAG!"And now he's a fat, ugly douchebag. :up:

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/tv/insider/lib/images/celeb/06/27/163_arose_060627_eagostini_56813185.jpg

[jaguarr]

I've heard of a Tesla coil.
http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00004/Coffee_and_Cigarettes_4121b.jpg



Settle down. :)

jag

[The Chairman]

I think you'll enjoy them. It's interesting to listen to their early stuff (which really holds up well, even today) and then their later stuff (they released an album last year, actually) and hear the progression. Skeoch and Hannon are very gifted guitarists and they often get overlooked but there are few guitarists from the 80's hair-band scene that had their chops. They wrote some fantastic riffs, too.

jag

I'll check them out.

[snipe]

Sure, to say that Prince is the ONLY musical genius of our time is absurd.

*True* genius is an extreme rarity. I can't think of anyone who comes close to him. This is not me saying everything he does is gold, but few people in the music industry today can even be mentioned in the same sentence with him.
Of course, this is all personal preference. There's no need to argue about anything.

[The Chairman]

At least the whole world can unite over this fact.
The U.N. took a vote and the Arabs were hugging the Jews, it was unanimous, the chanting began "Axl is a DOUCHEBAG! Axl is a DOUCHEBAG!"

LOL. He truly is.

Didn't he say something about The Holocaust never occuring? What a stupid piece of rat ****.

[Mr Sparkle]

Settle down. :)

jag

I was watching a south park episode last night (the one where Cartman is imittating the crocodile hunter), now every time I see your name I think of it as ya-goo-arr.

[jaguarr]

Axl Rose is the biggest has-been walking the face of the earth. He also has one of the most annoying voices in modern rock history, to be honest.

jag

[jaguarr]

I was watching a south park episode last night (the one where Cartman is imittating the crocodile hunter), now every time I see your name I think of it as ya-goo-arr.

Haha! :up:

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

Axl Rose is the biggest has-been walking the face of the earth. He also has one of the most annoying voices in modern rock history, to be honest.

jagHis voice used to be apart of what made him and the band great and unique, but if you hear his new songs you realise that its tired and that he's no longer relevant.

[The Chairman]

His voice used to be apart of what made him and the band great and unique, but if you hear his new songs you realise that its tired and that he's no longer relevant.

I wouldn't say he's no longer relevant. GNR still has a pretty large fanbase today with many teenagers, mostly thanks to Grand Theft Auto.

[Green Lantern]

Bowie not innovative? Wow. I know this is for another thread, but he was doing *everything* before anyone else was. You name it, he did it first.
Except that little fad in the late 80s where every song had a little rap interlude in it. He can't be blamed for that :oAnd even then it was one of his and Freddie's songs that started one of the biggest controversies of early rap, when Vanilla Ice ripped off Under Pressure :o

[jaguarr]

His voice used to be apart of what made him and the band great and unique, but if you hear his new songs you realise that its tired and that he's no longer relevant.

It worked on "Appetite", but after that it went to ****. Mostly because he sang entirely with his throat and thrashed his vocal chords to hell.

jag

[The Chairman]

And even then it was one of his and Freddie's songs that started one of the biggest controversies of early rap, when Vanilla Ice ripped off Under Pressure :o

Ah yes, that controversy.

You'd be surprised how many incredibly stupid people I know who prefer "Ice, Ice Baby" to "Under Pressure".

Kids today,

Also, anyone who says Bowie isn't innovative or something like that is a moron, plain and simple.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Of course, this is all personal preference. There's no need to argue about anything.I know, that's why I said it was an "absurd" thing to say instead of "What a f***ing retarded, ignorant thing to say. I wish you'd get hit by a flippin' CAR, devil-spawn!!" :)

first of all, there are many "musical geniuses" (a silly term anyway, how can you test for that, to quantify how many pounds of musical skill and inspiration they're toting around in their heads? Does Prince have 10, or 15% more "genius" than Brian Eno or Frank Zappa? or maybe he has 32% more!:eek: again, absurd) who don't ever even pursue fame. I know several musical geniuses and I'm a musical genius, but you've never heard my stuff.

Also the term "musical", is too broad. You seemed to imply that one of the factors in his genius is that he's multi-talented, can play all the instruments and is a production wizard. But I've heard, say, a violinist, that can't play any other instruments and doesn't compose a lot of his own stuff, but I still think his prowess in that one, narrow field of self-expression (the violin) qualifies him as a "musical genius".

And, as you said, it's all subjective. Some think Sonic Youth are geniuses. They don't. Some would call Depeche Mode geniuses.

I am here to tell the world, Jimmy Page is a musical Genius. So is Paul McCartney, Adrian Belew, Steve Morse...Prince too. There are many.

[The Chairman]

Here are the musicians I consider geniuses:

Stevie Wonder
Jimmy Page
Pete Townshend
Bob Dylan
David Bowie
John Lennon
Brian Wilson
Freddie Mercury
Neil Young
George Harrison
Kurt Cobain
Prince
Nick Cave
Chuck Berry
Jeff Lynne
Ian Anderson
John Enthwistle
Paul McCartney
John Paul Jones
Brian May
Joe Strummer
Eric Clapton
Jimi Hendrix
Miles Davis
Ray Davies
Roger Waters
Dave Gilmour
Neal Pert
Brian Jones
Jim Morrison

[Dwarf lord]

I'd add John Lennon, George Harrison and Neal Young to that list. Maybe even Steven Stills and Freddy Mercury

[The Chairman]

I'd add John Lennon, George Harrison and Neal Young to that list. Maybe even Steven Stills and Freddy Mercury

Lennon's up there. Harrison I'll add, and definitely Young. Mercury could go on as well. And Kurt Cobain.

[snipe]

I am here to tell the world, Jimmy Page is a musical Genius.

I'm one of Page's biggest fans. Seriously - I have an 8 cd box set of his early session work (pre-Yardbirds) and several hundred Zeppelin bootlegs.
He's not a genius. My definition of genius hinges on originality, and many of Page's "writings" were rips (or variations) of earlier artists' work, be they bluesmen, folk players, or avant-garde / psychadelic Londoners.
Later on, as I mentioned Presence, he became more original. The last ten years, however, he's been in various Led Zeppelin cover bands - touring with Plant or the Black Crowes, they've played mostly Zeppelin tunes.
Genius is ever-changing originality. Trend setting. Did Page's guitar work set trends? Yes. It created an entire musical genre and defined a generation of people (and several generations of musicians). Was it original? Not so much. He took was was already in place and moved it several steps forward.

[The Chairman]

I'm one of Page's biggest fans. Seriously - I have an 8 cd box set of his early session work (pre-Yardbirds) and several hundred Zeppelin bootlegs.
He's not a genius. My definition of genius hinges on originality, and many of Page's "writings" were rips (or variations) of earlier artists' work, be they bluesmen, folk players, or avant-garde / psychadelic Londoners.
Later on, as I mentioned Presence, he became more original. The last ten years, however, he's been in various Led Zeppelin cover bands - touring with Plant or the Black Crowes, they've played mostly Zeppelin tunes.
Genius is ever-changing originality. Trend setting. Did Page's guitar work set trends? Yes. It created an entire musical genre and defined a generation of people (and several generations of musicians). Was it original? Not so much. He took was was already in place and moved it several steps forward.

Page is a genius. He took the music of his influences and rearranged into something completely new and original.

And I think managing to create a new genre of music (in this case, Heavy Metal) constitutes as ingenius.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Was it original? Not so much. He took was was already in place and moved it several steps forward.*sigh* You know what's "original"? Zorn, Mr. Bungle, noise-art by Sonic Youth, Kraftwerk, Revolution #9......and I'll be damned if I want to listen to any of it.

and this is really bizarre, how Jimmy played Blues oriented Rock, and then Robert Plant stuck pre-existing Robert Johnson, Memphis Minnie, Willie Dixon, Ben E. King, etc. LYRICS over the music, and now people think JIMMY wasn't original.

Anyway, I disagree with your emphasis on "originality" (especially because almost nothing is original).
Nonetheless, listen to Over the Hills and Far Away in it's entirety, then Walter's Walk, then Four Sticks, then the bizarre harmonies in Misty Mountain Hop, the Rain Song, the psycho part in Whole Lotta Love.....

Lol, inSANE originality.

[jaguarr]

Tommy Iommi invented Heavy Metal, not Jimmy Page.

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Page is a genius. He took the music of his influences and rearranged into something completely new and original.

And I think managing to create a new genre of music (in this case, Heavy Metal) constitutes as ingenius.

Yes, there was already Blues, Celtic Folk, Proto-Punk, Syntho-Prog, Moroccan trance raga stuff, Funk, C+W, Boogie-Woogie, Wagnerian Bombast, and all of that.....but seamlessly incorporated into a melange used in the SAME FREAKING SONG?!?!?

Totally original and very, very G.E.N.I.U.S.

[The Chairman]

Yes, there was already Blues, Celtic Folk, Proto-Punk, Syntho-Prog, Moroccan trance raga stuff, Funk, C+W, Boogie-Woogie, Wagnerian Bombast, and all of that.....but seamlessly incorporated into a melange used in the SAME FREAKING SONG?!?!?

Totally original and very, very G.E.N.I.U.S.

Yes, and he makes a bad point.

If Jimmy Page is not a genius for creating rock and roll, than Thomas Edison is not a genius for inventing the light bulb.

There's no logic like flawed logic.

[The Chairman]

Tommy Iommi invented Heavy Metal, not Jimmy Page.

jag

No. Zeppelin hit the scene before Sabbath.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Tommy Iommi invented Heavy Metal, not Jimmy Page.

jagYes, we were watching The History of Metal on VH1 and one of the cool dudes was like, "I don't know why Zeppelin is always brought up. Not a lot of MANDOLINS or PEDAL STEEL GUITAR in Metal."

LZ weren't Metal, they were Heavy.

[jaguarr]

No. Zeppelin hit the scene before Sabbath.

No they didn't. :confused:

jag

[The Chairman]

Yes, we were watching The History of Metal on VH1 and one of the cool dudes was like, "I don't know why Zeppelin is always brought up. Not a lot of MANDOLINS or PEDAL STEEL GUITAR in Metal."

LZ weren't Metal, they were Heavy.

Going by that logic, Heavy Metal isn't generally acoustic, so "Laguna Sunrise" and "Changes" automatically disqualify Sabbath.

[jaguarr]

Yes, we were watching The History of Metal on VH1 and one of the cool dudes was like, "I don't know why Zeppelin is always brought up. Not a lot of MANDOLINS or PEDAL STEEL GUITAR in Metal."

LZ weren't Metal, they were Heavy.

:up:

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

There's no logic like flawed logic. like NO logic I KnOw!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/enlargement.jpg

[The Chairman]

like NO logic I KnOw!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Wilhelm-Scream/enlargement.jpg

Yup.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005KOE.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Edd Extraordinaire]

Since I love modern music rather than old music( I still have to give props to Paige ), I'm going to list some of my favorites.

Teppei Teranishi of Thrice

Tim Miller and Luke Hoskin of Protest the Hero

Nick Torres of Northstar/Cassino

Claudio Sanchez of Coheed & Cambria

Mark Engles of Dredg

Dave Knudson of Minus The Bear/Botch

Nate Patterson of The Receiving End of Sirens

[jaguarr]

Yup.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005KOE.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Haha! That album is a blast to listen to with a buzz on. Funny ****. :up:

jag

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Holee DiveR is my favorite.:)

[jaguarr]

LOL! Yeah, the way he phrases the words on those songs is tres bizarre. Wacky guy that Pat Boone.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

Yes, we were watching The History of Metal on VH1 and one of the cool dudes was like, "I don't know why Zeppelin is always brought up. Not a lot of MANDOLINS or PEDAL STEEL GUITAR in Metal."

LZ weren't Metal, they were Heavy.Which one of the cool dudes? 'Cause I've never seen the whole series.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

If I could remember I wouldn't've said "one of the cool dudes".

[Sarge 2.0]

Well, I was assuming that it would come to you sooner or later. :o

Your memory fails. :mad:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Well, we can narrow it down, it wasn't the fat guy from Pantera, it SHO as Hell wasn't Billy Joe Armstrong...I think it was Anthrax guy who now has a red ferret permanently grafted to his chin.

[jaguarr]

Scott Ian.

jag

[Sarge 2.0]

Well, we can narrow it down, it wasn't the fat guy from Pantera, it SHO as Hell wasn't Billy Joe Armstrong...I think it was Anthrax guy who now has a red ferret permanently grafted to his chin.Ah. He is indeed a cool dude. He ended up as one of the few sane guys on that Supergroup show.

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Him, Sebastian Bach, Zakk Wylde, the NUge, and who'd've thought it, Twisted Sister guy, all those guys crack me up. And who could've forseen that they would have a second life as endentured commentators for VH1.

[Spoarz™]

I'll say Jonny Buckland of Coldplay. :up:

[Wilhelm-Scream]

:hurl:

Well, my computer at home is broken, so before I get off, I've just gotta say, oooh, "Dancin' Days", how unoriginal.
LOL

[LastSunrise1981]

http://ironmaiden.webvis.net/images/The-Band/Murray/Murray4.jpg

http://www.heavymetal.co.il/carpediem/data/upimages/Chuck_Schuldiner02.jpg

http://www.jeffloomis.com/photos/europe/wr-jeff07.jpg

http://www.anthemwebservices.com/myspace/Dave.jpg

http://www.musamaailma.fi/sivukuvat/allu.jpg

http://www.nndb.com/people/021/000083769/dimebag-2-sized.jpg

[Wilhelm-Scream]

http://www.anthemwebservices.com/myspace/Dave.jpgHe would be "Best Rock Guitarist for Kicking in the Teeth".

[Whirlysplat]

Santana

- Whirly

[LastSunrise1981]

He would be "Best Rock Guitarist for Kicking in the Teeth".

He may be somewhat of an ******* and bitter, but you can't deny his talent and that he's created some of the most memorable riffs in heavy metal.

He definitely doesn't get enough credit. I mean, seriously, the opening riffs for In My Darkest Hour, Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Five Magics, Ashes In Your Mouth, and etc, etc... are classic riffs and classic songs at that too.

But different strokes for different folks.

[LastSunrise1981]

Here's some more great/underrated guitarists.

http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/oliva.jpg
Criss Oliva

http://www.carlosrovira.com/imgBlog/jasonbecker.jpg
Jason Becker was mindblowing before he was striken with ALS.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/02/10/mick_mars_narrowweb__200x327.jpg
Mick Mars

http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/Interviews05/neal1.jpg
Neal Schon

http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/img/artists/43424.jpg
Michael Schenker(Most known and praised for his work in UFO)

http://unclejoe.com/onair/onairart/04aFestBoston9.jpeg
Tom Scholz

[The Chairman]

He would be "Best Rock Guitarist for Kicking in the Teeth".

I like Dave Mustaine, he seems like a cool guy. Not really into his music, though.

[Sarge 2.0]

I like Dave Mustaine, he seems like a cool guy. Not really into his music, though.I think for alot of people it's the opposite, he's a total prick, but he's laid down some killer riffs.

[The Chairman]

I think for alot of people it's the opposite, he's a total prick, but he's laid down some killer riffs.

I've seen him in interviews and he comes off as a calm, friendly level headed guy.

Of course, that's in interviews.

[Sarge 2.0]

I've seen him in interviews and he comes off as a calm, friendly level headed guy.

Of course, that's in interviews.He enjoys whining about getting kicked out of Metallica (totally his fault) and he accused a bunch of different thrash guitarists of "stealing his style". He also decided to say that he supported "The Cause" (the IRA) in a venue in Northern Ireland. Like an idiot.

[The Chairman]

He enjoys whining about getting kicked out of Metallica (totally his fault) and he accused a bunch of different thrash guitarists of "stealing his style". He also decided to say that he supported "The Cause" (the IRA) in a venue in Northern Ireland. Like an idiot.

Okay, I'm convinced. He's an ass.

[LastSunrise1981]

He enjoys whining about getting kicked out of Metallica (totally his fault) and he accused a bunch of different thrash guitarists of "stealing his style". He also decided to say that he supported "The Cause" (the IRA) in a venue in Northern Ireland. Like an idiot.

I've always wondered. What is this IRA stuff in Ireland?

[JLBats]

I've always wondered. What is this IRA stuff in Ireland?

Irish Republican Army, a terrorist group dedicated to a free and seperate Ireland. Despite being Irish, I'm not particularly educated in the matter.

[Spider-Bite]

i voted for slash, but my second favorite is kirk hammet

[Mr. Thing]

Who likes Richie Sambora? :o

[snipe]

Anyway, I disagree with your emphasis on "originality" (especially because almost nothing is original).
Nonetheless, listen to Over the Hills and Far Away in it's entirety, then Walter's Walk, then Four Sticks, then the bizarre harmonies in Misty Mountain Hop, the Rain Song, the psycho part in Whole Lotta Love.....

Lol, inSANE originality.

I'm not saying he wasn't original - I'm saying he got away with stealing quite a bit of stuff early on. As the band progressed, so did it's originality - driven by Page.
Dazed and Confused was out-right stolen from Jake Holmes. Black Mountainside was outright stolen from Bert Jansch. It wasn't just the lyrics of some of the older songs that were lifted. The sound - though altered - is the same on quite a few.
If you're interested, PM me with your address. I'll send you some of the "original" material LZ used.
Again, this is not me trying to down Zeppelin. They're my favorite band and without them, music would be a hell of a lot different today.

[The Chairman]

Who likes Richie Sambora? :o

I like him a lot, but he's not on level with the likes of Page, Townshend and many others.

I love Bon Jovi, but I realize as musicians they're kind of second rate. I'd say they were the third best band of the 1980s' behind GNR and Def Leppard.

[Mr. Thing]

I like him a lot, but he's not on level with the likes of Page, Towshend and many others.

I love Bon Jovi, but I realize as musicians they're kind of second rate. I'd say they were the third best band of the 1980s' behind GNR and Def Leppard.

Yeah, I went to see them in June there and they were kick ass. I don't really like their 80's stuff except for New Jersey, their 90's stuff like Keep The Faith and These Days was awesome.

[The Chairman]

Yeah, I went to see them in June there and they were kick ass. I don't really like their 80's stuff except for New Jersey, their 90's stuff like Keep The Faith and These Days was awesome.

You see, I prefer the 1980s' stuff. I guess that's because that's the bulk of their most popular tunes.

[Mr. Thing]

You see, I prefer the 1980s' stuff. I guess that's because that's the bulk of their most popular tunes.

You can't beat Livin' On A Prayer though. Makes me want a talkbox...

[The Chairman]

You can't beat Livin' On A Prayer though. Makes me want a talkbox...

You Give Love A Bad Name > Livin' On A Prayer

[Mr. Thing]

You Give Love A Bad Name > Livin' On A Prayer

Pfft..Social Disease > All of them purely for the intro. :o

[JLBats]

Pffft, everything sucks.

[Mr. Thing]

Pffft, everything sucks.

JLBats has turned Emo! :(

[The Chairman]

Emo sucks.

(The music, not the people associated with listening to it)

[JLBats]

JLBats has turned Emo! :(

No, it's true. Because if everything sucks, and we're grading on a bell-curve, than nothing sucks. Get it? Capiche?

[JLBats]

Emo sucks.

Emo rocks. Ever heard Dashboard Confessional? LOVE 'EM. Love how untalented and whiny they are.

[Mr. Thing]

Emo sucks.

I have very good friends who are emo. Great people. It's the whole life sucks thing that they go on about that gets me. :(

When the say they want to top themselves it's really worrying. You never know when they'll actually do it.

[The Chairman]

I have very good friends who are emo. Great people. It's the whole life sucks thing that they go on about that gets me. :(

When the say they want to top themselves it's really worrying. You never know when they'll actually do it.

Well I didn't mean people who are emo suck. I mean the emotions associated with emo suck. I don't mean to offend anyone. I take it back.

[The Chairman]

Emo rocks. Ever heard Dashboard Confessional? LOVE 'EM. Love how untalented and whiny they are.

No, because they're untalented.

[Whirlysplat]

Hendrixs fave was Santana.

More interesting Santanas thoughts on Hendrix.

http://www.djnoble.demon.co.uk/ints/CARLOSS.ANT.html

- Whirly

[jaguarr]

I was mowing my lawn today and some Extreme came up on my iPod, which reminded me of how fantastic a player Nuno Bettencourt is. Too bad he's a complete and utter a-hole, though.

jag

[Samael]

I was mowing my lawn today and some Extreme came up on my iPod, which reminded me of how fantastic a player Nuno Bettencourt is. Too bad he's a complete and utter a-hole, though.

jagMore than wooooorrrddsss...

A tie between Clapton and Page. Then I realized how much I love Kashmir. Page gets the vote.

[jaguarr]

Yeah, "More Than Words" was pretty crappy. Check out his playing on something like "Do You Want To Play", though. The guy can shred and is pretty damn inventive as a guitarist. He's not my favorite of all time, but I felt he deserved an honorable mention.

jag

[DBella]

Has anyone mentioned The Edge from U2?