Is there anything that is based on G1?

[Dotten]

In the beginning the writers said that a lot will be based on G1, and also they would introduce some new transformers.

But after what have leaked so far, I don't see anything resembling G1. OP is not a flatnose, Bumblebee is a Camaro and Megatron a spacecraft (or a tank?).

And as far as I know, none of the original voices have been cast yet.

So, what is based on G1? Something in the story? Any of the transformers coming in their original look?

Please, just give me anything. I love transformers more then anything entertainment like (Optimus Prime is my all time favourite toy,alongside Snarl and Grimlock). If not (a bit early to tell, I know), why say that a lot will be based on G1? Just to bring our hopes up, and then crushing them?

I want the movie to give me some kind of nostalgic feeling. But I'm pretty skeptic...

Ahh, hell. Just bring in a sequel and give us Grimlock. That woul make my day :)

[ComicKoryn]

Maybe the Arc will be in it.....I don't know.

[zer00]

I guess when they said it was based on G1 it meant the same thing as when Coppola said his Dracula was to be the most faithful adaption of Stoker's work.

[CFlash]

Maybe the Arc will be in it.....I don't know.

Siphoning natural resources?
Race to build the space bridge?

From what we know the plot will be "Quest for The Energon Cube"... which seems to be a holy grail or something..... something akin to the Creation Matrix, which is cool I guess.... or Matrix of Leadership, which I always thought was pretty corny in TF The Movie.

And neither the cartoon nor comic involved big "story arcs" over it. It was just there in Optimus' head (or chest in the movie)... taken for granted.

To ME, Transformers was always about natural resources and defending the environment from exploitation. But, that's just me. I'm a hippie I guess.

[CFlash]

Wait, did you mean Ark?
Based on the script reviews and rumors, there is no Ark in the movie.

And, suppossedly no Cybertron either. It was blown up long ago.

Which, I guess makes searching for "The Energon Cube" (Allspark?) that much more important.

[chaos123x]

YES!

It will have giant robots that transform into cars.


Other than that no.

THis is TINO

"Transformers in name only"

I bet the main charectors will be humans, they will fight the Decepticons, and only have the autobots at the end to help destoy them.

Think WAR OF THE WORLDS giant robot things killing people.


Micheal Bay has said he was more of a GO-Bots fan anyway.

Plus he said he always wanted to make a movie like "Maximum Overdrive" and now this is chance to make a pseudo sequal.

WTF!

By the way Steven Speilburg always says he is a big fan, but he acts like it was only a toy line, and never a cartoon TV show.
Every interview he references the TOYS but never the cartoon TV show.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/g/i/p/221417.jpg

http://www.zone-sf.com/images/maxover2.jpg

[Advocate05]

Fraking GO-Bots? Oh god. My expectations for this movie went the way of the dodo bird.

Go-Bots ... Well that makes sense as to why Bumblebee looked like a Bioncle. Oh well.

[Spark]

Wait, did you mean Ark?
And, suppossedly no Cybertron either. It was blown up long ago.
Ravaged by war and somehow further dilapidated by the Matrix flying off into space, but not destroyed completely. At least that's the impression I got. Plus it'd be a suicidal move in light of their hopes for sequels.

[zer00]

I thought somewhere in the AICN Bay office visit it was mentioned that we do see Cybertron in the movie

[chaos123x]

NO cybertron!?!?!?!

that blows, Does that mean no Shockwave? (not soundwave)

Shockwave always stayed on cybertron.

Where are they going to take the energon cubes then?

[Spark]

I thought somewhere in the AICN Bay office visit it was mentioned that we do see Cybertron in the movie
Yes, in a flashback. I wouldn't be suprised if Hasbro plan to sell the characters in their Cybertronian forms. Infact I'd be suprised if they didn't.

[CFlash]

NO cybertron!?!?!?!

that blows, Does that mean no Shockwave? (not soundwave)

Shockwave always stayed on cybertron.

Where are they going to take the energon cubes then?

No idea about good ol' Shockwave.
And from what anybody can tell there are NO "energon cubes."..... this movie isn't about siphoning Earth's natural resources. There is A "Energon Cube" (singular) which is apparently a holy grail of some sort.

I thought somewhere in the AICN Bay office visit it was mentioned that we do see Cybertron in the movie

In a flashback. As the story is related to Spike.

But then again. This is all from an outdated leaked script. Maybe lots has changed. Who knows.

[Longbow_Hunter]

cybertron will be shown in some sort of hologram and we will get to see some of the original alt.forms of some of the transformers. i read that some while back, so they could have deleted that whole scene(hope not).

[chaos123x]

They changed Spike's name to Sam.

[Spark]

They changed Spike's name to Sam.
They kept 'Spike' as his nickname though, which is pobably the best solution anyway. Assuming it's still current.

[WalkingDead]

Wait, did you mean Ark?
Based on the script reviews and rumors, there is no Ark in the movie.

And, suppossedly no Cybertron either. It was blown up long ago.

Which, I guess makes searching for "The Energon Cube" (Allspark?) that much more important.
Actually, Cybertron is not blown up, apparently that was just a bad rumor (unless I've heard wrong). There is one flashback that will have Prime tell of the war on Cybertron. He will use a 3-Dimension Holographic Device to help show his story.

[geomon]

I wonder, does anyone actually have any quotes to back up this crap in here?

[CFlash]

I wonder, does anyone actually have any quotes to back up this crap in here?

From the first script review. Perhaps overexaggerated or taken out of context... who knows:

"The script opens 1 million years before the dawn of man with the energon cube hurtling through space on it’s path towards Earth. A narrator tells us that the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron, a war raged between the legions who worship chaos and those who follow freedom. They battled for a supreme power, the Energon Cube. It’s origin unknown yet it bears the life-force that created the transformer race. They fought until their world was awash in death until the very ground swallowed whole their once mighty cities and the cube was lost to the limitless stars."

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=25

Now I know Cybertron was mired in conflict for millions of years- we all know that- but destroyed? The script review makes it sound like it went the way of Krypton.

[TigerClaw]

From the first script review. Perhaps overexaggerated or taken out of context... who knows:

"The script opens 1 million years before the dawn of man with the energon cube hurtling through space on it’s path towards Earth. A narrator tells us that the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron, a war raged between the legions who worship chaos and those who follow freedom. They battled for a supreme power, the Energon Cube. It’s origin unknown yet it bears the life-force that created the transformer race. They fought until their world was awash in death until the very ground swallowed whole their once mighty cities and the cube was lost to the limitless stars."

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=25

Now I know Cybertron was mired in conflict for millions of years- we all know that- but destroyed? The script review makes it sound like it went the way of Krypton.
One thing I like to point out is that the script they reviewed is one of the earlier drafts, Theres no telling how many drafts of the script were done until they had the official one, So its possible that they made some changes in the script afterword.

[xwolverine2]

From the first script review. Perhaps overexaggerated or taken out of context... who knows:

"The script opens 1 million years before the dawn of man with the energon cube hurtling through space on it’s path towards Earth. A narrator tells us that the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron, a war raged between the legions who worship chaos and those who follow freedom. They battled for a supreme power, the Energon Cube. It’s origin unknown yet it bears the life-force that created the transformer race. They fought until their world was awash in death until the very ground swallowed whole their once mighty cities and the cube was lost to the limitless stars."

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=25

Now I know Cybertron was mired in conflict for millions of years- we all know that- but destroyed? The script review makes it sound like it went the way of Krypton.
wasnt it destroyed in cybertron(series)?

[TigerClaw]

wasnt it destroyed in cybertron(series)?
Nope, Cybertron is still around in the new series.

[WalkingDead]

From the first script review. Perhaps overexaggerated or taken out of context... who knows:

"The script opens 1 million years before the dawn of man with the energon cube hurtling through space on it’s path towards Earth. A narrator tells us that the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron, a war raged between the legions who worship chaos and those who follow freedom. They battled for a supreme power, the Energon Cube. It’s origin unknown yet it bears the life-force that created the transformer race. They fought until their world was awash in death until the very ground swallowed whole their once mighty cities and the cube was lost to the limitless stars."

http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=25

Now I know Cybertron was mired in conflict for millions of years- we all know that- but destroyed? The script review makes it sound like it went the way of Krypton.

Just to clarify...kinda...
That statement does NOT say Cybertron is destroyed. It says the great Cities of Cybertron were destroyed and sayign Cybertron was destroyed could be like saying how badly damaged the planet is, not necessarily that it was wiped out completely.

[CFlash]

Just to clarify...kinda...
That statement does NOT say Cybertron is destroyed. It says the great Cities of Cybertron were destroyed and sayign Cybertron was destroyed could be like saying how badly damaged the planet is, not necessarily that it was wiped out completely.

You say, "That statement does NOT say Cybertron is destroyed."
Yet right there it says "the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron." :confused:

But, I understand what you're saying. (As I noted) it could be an exaggeration on the reviewers part or taken out of context. After all. that script review isn't exactly a very well-written piece.

[xwolverine2]

You say, "That statement does NOT say Cybertron is destroyed."
Yet right there it says "the ravages of war destroyed Cybertron." :confused:

But, I understand what you're saying. (As I noted) it could be an exaggeration on the reviewers part or taken out of context. After all. that script review isn't exactly a very well-written piece.
maybe like terminator 2 in the future....

thats how i imagined it....... not krypton

[Creature SH]

And from what anybody can tell there are NO "energon cubes."..... this movie isn't about siphoning Earth's natural resources. There is A "Energon Cube" (singular) which is apparently a holy grail of some sort.

In other words, they took the "Cosmic Cube" concept from Marvel Comics and attached it to something entirely uncomparable in Transformers.

[Spark]

One thing I like to point out is that the script they reviewed is one of the earlier drafts, Theres no telling how many drafts of the script were done until they had the official one, So its possible that they made some changes in the script afterword.
I hope so. Some of that narrative is cringeworthy. They should have them speak normal English.

[Anubis73]

Micheal Bay has said he was more of a GO-Bots fan anyway.



Then that is the movie he should have made instead of raping Transformers.

[Chris B]

In other words, they took the "Cosmic Cube" concept from Marvel Comics and attached it to something entirely uncomparable in Transformers.

Actually, I think the so called "Energon Cube" is based off of the Creation Matrix from the Marvel Comics continuity. The script review specifically mentions that it is the artifact the grants TF's sentience.

[Chris B]

In regards to this thread, I think people need to realize that this Transformers isn't going to be a strict adaptation of G1. Think of it as a new continuity. If anything, consider it to be a reinvented version of G1, and not an IDW-style update.

[gkokujin]

Then that is the movie he should have made instead of raping Transformers.

too late my friend...too late.

[Dotten]

In regards to this thread, I think people need to realize that this Transformers isn't going to be a strict adaptation of G1. Think of it as a new continuity. If anything, consider it to be a reinvented version of G1, and not an IDW-style update.

So it will not be a lot of G1, including some new characters that people have never seen before?

Funny, because that is what Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (the writers) stated back in 2005. :)

http://www.iesb.net/sony2005/101705.php

So I expect the movie to be a lot of G1, because that is what they told us. If they wanted it to be a new continuity or a reinvented version, then they should have told us that.

[Chris B]

So it will not be a lot of G1, including some new characters that people have never seen before?

Funny, because that is what Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (the writers) stated back in 2005. :)

http://www.iesb.net/sony2005/101705.php

So I expect the movie to be a lot of G1, because that is what they told us. If they wanted it to be a new continuity or a reinvented version, then they should have told us that.

And I realize that people involved with the film have said that it was based on G1. But here's the thing, over the development of the film, it appears to have diverged from G1 to a certain extent. Like I said before, think of this Transformers movie as a reinvented G1 and not as a strict adaptation. That way, maybe you will walk out of the theater somewhat satisfied next year.

[Spark]

Just because their position changed over time it doesn't mean mine should. I'd rather hope for improvements and decide wether I'll be buzzed for this movie at a later date.

I'll definitely see it (once) anyway just so I know what the hell I'm talking about.

[geomon]

So it will not be a lot of G1, including some new characters that people have never seen before?

Funny, because that is what Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman (the writers) stated back in 2005. :)

http://www.iesb.net/sony2005/101705.php

So I expect the movie to be a lot of G1, because that is what they told us. If they wanted it to be a new continuity or a reinvented version, then they should have told us that.


Q: So are you thinking Generation 1, Generation 2? Mixture of both?
A: A mixture actually, there will be a lot of G1 but also some new characters that people have never seen before.
Q: So there will be new characters.
A: Yes.

[Anubis73]

too late my friend...too late.
Yes and that is so sad.:(

[Dotten]

Q: So are you thinking Generation 1, Generation 2? Mixture of both?
A: A mixture actually, there will be a lot of G1 but also some new characters that people have never seen before.
Q: So there will be new characters.
A: Yes.

And where is the mixture? So far, nothing even resembles G1. There is nothing that looks to "be a lot of G1".

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with them adapting and changing stuff. Raimi did that with Spider-Man, Burton did it with Batman and Donner with Super-Man. But when they tell us that a lot will be G1, then I expect them to do just that.

If it ends up them just lied about it, well then it will ruin certain things. Then they should have told us "look, this will be a transformers movie, but it will be new, reinventing the basics. No, we will not base it on G1, but we will keep to the basics. Evil decepticons and good autobots that can transform. They will also keep their names. Aside from that, no we have no intentions of this being a pure adaption of the cartoon".

But you know what? They did not say that, they said it would be a lot of G1. So that is what I'm expecting.

[roach]

And where is the mixture? So far, nothing even resembles G1. There is nothing that looks to "be a lot of G1".



Have you seen everything????
All we have seen is a few leaked pics and a teaser that has nothing to do with the movie.

[WalkingDead]

Q: So are you thinking Generation 1, Generation 2? Mixture of both?
A: A mixture actually, there will be a lot of G1 but also some new characters that people have never seen before.
Q: So there will be new characters.
A: Yes.

Please realize that the "new characters" thing could just mean the Humans...since most of the human characters aren't from any incarnation of Transformers.

And, if the rumors hold up..most of the Transformers are based on G1. They may have new alternate modes or look different in some way or form, but the characters are still based on the G1 Counterparts.

[WalkingDead]

Almost everything within this film that we've heard rumors on has some form of precedent/previous work to base it on.

Some are G1...such as all the Autobots appear to be based on their G1 selves even if they have new alt. modes, the inclusion of the "Energon Cube" being a form of the Creation Matrix, and Starscream still being a real Fighter Jet.

Others are based on various changes throughout the last 15 years. But the point is there is still something there to base them on. Sure it's not what most fanboys want or "need". But we'll see how it all works itself out.

[ragdus]

Have you seen everything????
All we have seen is a few leaked pics and a teaser that has nothing to do with the movie.

exactly. we have seen next to nothing.

[TripXyDE]

if they make minor changes, it would be ok. what's important is that there's an Optimus Prime...that's a TRUCK....a Megatron which transforms into a TANK is ok coz itz kinda silly to have him transform into a tiny gun

there should be a CYBERTRON

the WAR should be BETWEEN the Autobots & the Decepticons...the humans should be just SECONDARY characters

i never trusted BAY's visions in his movies. he's an OK director. but his ideas tend to be corny...

BUT with TRANSFORMERS...i thought itz a project that FITS his style. i HAVE FAITH in BAY.....not until ive been hearing these rumors that the concept may be screwed up.

if BAY screws this up, it'l be just like that SPAWN movie

[Dotten]

if BAY screws this up, it'l be just like that SPAWN movie

Ugh... Don't say that. That would be just horrible....