should supes have kids

[house of f]

from supes returns should he have kids

[Symbiote Hulk]

You mean like clark kent having kids with Lois Lane? Sure why not.

[The Infernal]

Yeah. Plus it wouldn't have to be as complicated as in the film. He and Lois could raise their son together. It would also be great to see him growing up with powers.

[Spider-Gamer]

Sure, why not?

[aerosmith6703]

I think it's time to give Clark/Superman a family beyond the Kents, Lana and Lois.. there isn't much left for Superman to have conflict with.. time to open up the story a little.

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Yeah, otherwise....those "Superman has super sperm" rumors are kinda b.s., right?

[The Fonz]

Why shouldn't he have kids? With Lois Lane or with anyone else? Do the people who say he shouldn't have kids want him castrated?

[charl_huntress]

Hmmm...I like the idea of a kid for the franchise and the Superman family, but I think it would be wierd to do right now in current continuity. It's not impossible, but it would be hard. Still, I'd like to see it done properly.

[The Question]

Personally, I think they should adopt. I mean, technically, Clark and Lois aren't even the same speicese. The DNA shouldn't be compatible.

[charl_huntress]

Personally, I think they should adopt. I mean, technically, Clark and Lois aren't even the same speicese. The DNA shouldn't be compatible.

With DC science anything is possible. Personally, I don't like this notion that it's impossible. I think it is possible and if it happened it could be explained quite easily. LOL...at least I could easily explain it:up:

[The Question]

I think I'd like it better if they adopted. Would just work better for me.

[charl_huntress]

I don't mind adoption, but...well...I like the other alternative as well.

[DareDemon]

Personally, I think they should adopt. I mean, technically, Clark and Lois aren't even the same speicese. The DNA shouldn't be compatible.

Yes, but they are "close enough" in the comic world to work. I like realistic science. But I'm also okay with unrealistic things happening (such as Superman existing) as long as it follows its own rules. I think within the comic, they could have a biological kid. Who knows, maybe in real life it could even work. Animals of different species can breed, and humans and Kryptonians are very similar (unless they have different chromosone numbers).

However, I think it would be more fitting to Superman's character to adopt. Like from Africa or China or something.

[The Question]

Animal's from different speicese can't breed. Only creatures within the same speicese can breed with one another. A bird can't have sex with a dog and produce a child. Even animals in the same animal families can't mate if they're not the same speicese. That's why a human can't get a gorilla pregnant. The only thing similar about humans and Kryptonians is outward apearance. They're internal workings are vastly different.

[charl_huntress]

Well, I think the fact that Lois is human and she turns him on...means they must be somewhat compatible.

I get the point, but I agree with most of what Demon said. It's the DC universe, and though there should be some consistency with "real" life I they are allowed some leeway since we are talking about an Alien from another planet.

That's not real life yet, so if they say it's possible than I'm going to believe them.

[house of f]

ye but his race must have evolved making his species conptible with us terrans

[Hades]

I wonder if superman can even feel anything when having sex with Lois. I mean, If bullets bounce off his skin imagine how tough his penis must be.

[charl_huntress]

lol...according to Niven, well...any sensation he does feel would surely cause an overload and kill Lois with climax induced exit wounds :)

Obviously, I don't buy that. I mean if he can control the density and feeling in his body so he doesn't walk around breaking stuff on a daily, I'm sure he's developed it enough so he doesn't have to think about it while...doing the funky monkey. Also, he'd be breaking toilets on a regular and killing whole cities when he passed gas.

Anyway...endgame here is I think Supes' penis is up for the challenge :)...lol

[Sloth7d]

I liked that one alternate comic where he had a baby with Wonder woman.

[charl_huntress]

I liked that one alternate comic where he had a baby with Wonder woman.

I better never see Superman and Wonder Woman together in real time continuity...and adding children would just nail the door shut for me and DC.

Not only is that a slap in the face of Wondy. That would be the biggest snoozefest ever.

[The Question]

Well, I think the fact that Lois is human and she turns him on...means they must be somewhat compatible.

Some people get turned on by horses. Doesn't mean they can get them pregnant.

I wonder if superman can even feel anything when having sex with Lois. I mean, If bullets bounce off his skin imagine how tough his penis must be.

Resistence to pain doesn't mean a lack of sensation. He just has a high pain threshold.

[charl_huntress]

Some people get turned on by horses. Doesn't mean they can get them pregnant.

Those people are sick and practice beastiality. You aren't trying to say Superman does that or Lois Lane is a beast, are you? lol...betta not be saying that:)

[The Question]

*sigh*


What I'm saying is that you can be sexually atracted to something without being able to impregniate it.

[charl_huntress]

*sigh*


What I'm saying is that you can be sexually atracted to something without being able to impregniate it.

I'm joking with you...lol

I understand what you are saying but they are both "humanoid". He is described that way in the comic though he is of Kryptonian origin. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch if they were to procreate naturally. I'm sure it could be explained or...not. Mxy did show Lois and Clark a future where they had a child and he gave a pretty good explanation of how it happened...it worked for me when I read it and not too many comic fans have a probably with good ole Lara Kent.

[The Question]

I think he was just showing what would happen if they did have a kid, not that they could.

[charl_huntress]

He should them a possible future (which is what he said), which means...it's possible...IMO.

[The Question]

Didn't say how she got pregnant, though. Really, I think Mxy's last act before dissapearing in Adventure's of Superman should have been to use his powers to make Lois pregnant by Clark. Thus, it would be Clark's biological child without us nerds debating on weither or not he can get Lois pregnant.

[charl_huntress]

Yes it did...don't you remember the panel with Mxy...who looked like sperm? He even started to give a brief description of how that happens, but they cut him off.

Point is...it's unknown because...it's unknown. It's not impossible though.

[CConn]

The moment I decide to engage in the old impregnation debate is the moment I decide to remain a virgin for life.

With that said, I wouldn't mind at all if Clark and Lois had a child...although I'd prefer if they waited a few more years.

Oh and charl_huntress, where'd you get that pic in your avatar from? It looks great. :up:

[charl_huntress]

The moment I decide to engage in the old impregnation debate is the moment I decide to remain a virgin for life.

With that said, I wouldn't mind at all if Clark and Lois had a child...although I'd prefer if they waited a few more years.

Oh and charl_huntress, where'd you get that pic in your avatar from? It looks great. :up:

LOL...LOL...I can't help myself. Everytime I see this thread I have to...it's like a compulsion:)

I'm down with what you said. I think their ages need to be somehow reworked. A child would date them really badly, so it needs to be fixed art wise and storywise...IMO...so...it's more up-to-date.

Oh and I got the avatar from CBR. They have some really good ones. I can't wait until you can really see her. It's a beautiful avatar.

[house of f]

hey am a virgin realy a 17-18 year old virigin

[Kal-El 8]

Yes it's time Lois & Clark become Super parents .

[J. Stooge]

Superman's always seemed like a fatherly figure. It'd be only fitting to give him kids.

I wouldn't be too fazed whether it's his biologically or adopted. There'd be a nice story either way.

[house of f]

i heard that

[Miss Webb]

Keep an eye on "Little Clark."

[Isildur´s Heir]

Personally, I think they should adopt.
:up:

Exactly!
And i have came with the most amazing storyline for that to happen, one that would shake the most basic foundations of the character :o

[Bad Superman]

Hell, no!

[house of f]

i do hope he one day has a chiled becuse i wont to see superman shoting the big 'whooo'

[IzzyJG99]

I hope that he has son or a daughter some day. Mostly because I want the DCU despite it's constant roll backs to one day have another Superman. Between Kara Zor-El and Kal-El there could be an entire lineage of Supermen and Women.

But, I digress. The way I always wanted it to be was like this.
Superman gets killed once and for all. Maybe in a crisis. Connor Kent (He's dead now, though) takes the place of Superman while raising the son of Superman & Lois Lane. Connor constantly is trying to live up to Kal-El's good example and make sure that he sets his own good example for the growing up Junior.
Idealy it'd have this cool scene where Junior (We'll call him that from now on) finds his way to the Fortress of Solitude after Connor is killed or dying by some evil force or maybe even Zod-like character. He activates the crystals and so forth with all the knowledge of Krypton and just like Jor-El setup a holographic A.I. of himself....Superman did the same for any who should come after him. They speak to one another just as Jor-El and Kal-El did. Then in the end Junior emerges from what was months to him learning his heritage, but was only a mere hour on Earth. He emerges from the fortress as the new Superman or perhaps Superboy. He then saves the day.

Ideally..that'd be a good story I'd read.

[IzzyJG99]

:up:

Exactly!
And i have came with the most amazing storyline for that to happen, one that would shake the most basic foundations of the character :o

Judging by the events coming up in Action Comics with a baby being found in a rocket in metropolis by Superman...they'll adopt him.

It sounds like during the recent crisis another universe where another Superman exists, but 30 years behind schedule merged into New Earth and as a result...this "Baby Kal-El" is sent to New Eart as a by-product. It'll probably end up being a new Sueprboy character or some plot by a malevolent force to take down Superman/Kal-El. I hope my theory is right, actually.

[charl_huntress]

Yes...

[Arach Knight]

On on hand, I voted yes, because I can see Clark as a parent. I think it would be a long stretch for Lois, but as seen in Wonder Woman Paradise Lost, Lois can easily attatch to children. On the other hand, I am against the idea of too many people with the same power level as Superman, populating the DCU. We don't need this to turn into some Japanese coic, where everybody just gets more powerful and more kids in the next issue, a la Dragon Ball Z. Also, at this point, having children would be a serious Marvel tactic. I don't like the movies to influence the books. The books should influence the movies.

[Dr. Fate]

Superman is better off without kids.

[Arach Knight]

Superman is better off without kids.

Is there an actual fact and/or reason for that belief? Your statement is pretty empty on that subject.

[Miss Webb]

Yeah, otherwise....those "Superman has super sperm" rumors are kinda b.s., right?


And what's the big deal? :whatever: In Marvel, there are all kinds of superbeing/human hybrids. If they can mix, why not a human and a highly powered humanoid alien?

[ScottishFogg]

Superman, more than any other superhero clad in tights, is a father figure. why not make him an actual father? i think there's a lot of unexplored territory there.

[Arach Knight]

And what's the big deal? :whatever: In Marvel, there are all kinds of superbeing/human hybrids. If they can mix, why not a human and a highly powered humanoid alien?

Superman is an alien. that is a lot different than Wolverine sleeping with Alicia Masters. Mutants...and most Marvel super beings, are still humans. They are just humans with mutations (either at birth or by exterenal factors, regardless of Marvel's shabby definition). Superman is potentially different on a biological level, than humans, despite his appearence. I mean...house cats are from earth, and have the same appearence as all other felines, but you don't see them mating with lions or tigers.

[mego joe]

My biggest problem with Superman becoming a father in regular comic continuity, even though it is within the confines of marriage to Lois, is that it would mean the child could never really age. Supes and Lois don't age, so their child can't either. For all the possibility it might open up this would just close the door on interesting stories after the first couple of years.

[Arach Knight]

No comic book character really ages...or really ages beyond a certain point, except maybe most of the old school JSA members...but even their youth has been retconned back into the status quo. Besides, too late to wonder what would happen. I believe in The Adventures of Superman, a spaceship crashes on earth, and Clark and Lois wind up taking care of the baby they find. (It may not be Adventures...but I know it is one of Superman's books that is coming up either at the end of this month, or next month).

[Andy C.]

It's in Action, but yeah, you're right so far. The question is whether or not the kid is going to stick around for good, or if this is another fake-out like Cir-El.

Honestly, I'd kinda like to see it happen for real. There are a few events in the DCU that are sort of taken as a given that they'll happen one day, but never will for the sake of keeping things relatively the same (Orion overthrowing Darkseid, Tim Drake inheriting the role of Batman, etc) The way I see it, Superman and Lois having a child is one of those events. And having it happen would have a pretty considerable impact on the Superman story, as well as the entire DCU in the long run.

It'd be a great way to add major new dimensions to the cast. Lois as a mother would have more to do than just trade quips with Clark during the interludes of the story arcs, and I think becoming a father (particularly of a super-being that has to be kept secret) would give Clark a much better understanding of what the Kents did for him. And besides, considering the progression of Superman's character, having a child is pretty much the only major change you can make, aside from having him divorce Lois or die again.

Adopting the current kid is convenient in that it avoids the whole issue of whether it's biologically possible for a human and a Kryptonian to conceive, but if this one's not going to be the real deal, I'd much rather see Clark and Lois come up with a baby of their own.

[Arach Knight]

I feel more impact would lie in Superman having to adopt the child. As you already stated, it would allow him a much greater insight, into exactly what it is, that the Kents did for him. I would hope that they name this new baby, Conner, in honor of the recently deceased Superboy. Wouldn't it be lame, if this new baby wasn't an alien, but was just another Cadmus clone of Superman, but without the hyper accelrated aging that stops at the teen years?

[TheCaptain22555]

I don't see why not. In Kingdom Come Superman and Wonder Woman were able to have kids so I don't see it being impossible for him and Lois to either.

[blind_fury]

Worked well for the DBZ franchise.

[Arkady Rossovich]

No.I dont think Superman should ever have children.

[charl_huntress]

What is the issue with Superman having kids? Actually, I'd like to know what is the issue with DC heroes having kids. It seems as though only Marvel characters are allowed to procreate, and they don't have a problem working in those story lines for their arcs.

The way I see it....Lois and Clark are married and kids or the thought of kids should be something they think about and plan for. Also, I think Superman would make a great father figure, and if written correctly the storylines for a super kid could really help in the cartoon division, comic division and DTV division.

I'm talking legacy for Superman and the Superman family, so let the man have a child with Lois.

[Miss Webb]

My biggest problem with Superman becoming a father in regular comic continuity, even though it is within the confines of marriage to Lois, is that it would mean the child could never really age. Supes and Lois don't age, so their child can't either. For all the possibility it might open up this would just close the door on interesting stories after the first couple of years.


I don't think it would bother too many people. Probably all that would happen is the kid would get older, Lois and Clark stay the same until the kid goes to college, then maybe they age slightly. It shouldn't be a problem, really. It's all about the stories, not making everyone 'correctly' old. Let 'em have a whole PACK of kids. Flying and banging into walls, heh.

[04nbod]

wouldn't the childs blood be tainted. it would not be a true kryptonian and could possibly only half as powerful as superman

[Chains]

No. He shouldn't have gotten married much less ever have kids. The "wedding album" should be wiped from the mythology. Superman should not be domesticated. It would feel like compromising the virtues he upholds so perfectly. The kids would only be half super at best and who wants to read a comic about the sons and daughters of superman that move half as fast, can tolerate half as much pain, have half the strength, have eye beams half as hot, ice breath half as freezing, have breath half as powerful and x-ray things half as clear. Or maybe one would just distribute the powers to the kids in which case they'd be about as interesting as the Incredibles. Really, no one wants to read about half-assed heroes.

The reason most Marvel superheroes are allowed to procreate when DC can't is that most Marvel heroes are mutants in a world where mutants are far more common place than super heroes in the DC universe. Mutants are expected to procreate; thats how the story continues (otherwise the Xavier Institute wouldn't have much reason to exist as a school a decade or so after the mythology began). If Batman had kids he wouldn't be nearly as dark anymore.

Also, most DC characters go solo more often than Marvel characters. The solo aspect gets sacrificed when your responsibilities increase on the homefront. If Cyclops and Jean Gray had kids, the rest of the team could handle in the mean time. That's the advantage of all the teamplay Marvel has set up amongst their heroes. Of course, I realize their is extensive teamplay in the DC universe with the Justice League for example, but the Justice League is more like the UN whereas the X-Men are more like the US. Superman is going to save Gotham when he has problems in Metropolis unless the problems in Gotham look like they will destroy Metropolis if not gotten under control. Vice versa for Batman and every other hero and their "district." The heroes in the JL are more autonomous whereas the X-Men if you mess with one you've messed with them all.

[Miss Webb]

I think he should have a whole pack of kids...all flying around the farm doing training. Opens his own "Super Core." :woot:

[Lightning54SC]

if he were to have kids it should be with wonder women... sorry but i dont wanna see lois get ripped up from having a kid or during sex :P

[trustyside-kick]

I don't have a problem with it really just...there are already so many people in the "super" family. Cause I mean...you know that if he had a biological son he would be in the "family" business for sure eventually.

I'm kinda undecided. Then again...with the timeline in comics we may never see the kid grow up really. Or at least...would confuse the hell out of a lot of people and give lots of questions since comic time and how people age is different.

[Travis K]

he should not even be married...he is the single white man

[CLARKY]

from supes returns should he have kids

Clear and simple : no.